What's in this episode? In this episode we throwback to a past recording chatting about the power of role-play and simulation technology in hostile environment training and international development. This episode was recorded at the start of 2020 in pre-COVID times so you will also hear an update from one of our guests, Mike Todd, reflecting on what has changed since our recording. Enjoy! People Mike Todd, CEO, Near Life | Twitter: @NearLifeTech  Kathy Relleen Evans, Director, Development Projects and Innovation Unit - DPIU, Norwegian Refugee Council | Twitter: @RelleenEvans, @NRC_Norway Sophie Bailey, Founder and Presenter of The Edtech Podcast | Twitter: @podcastedtech   Show Notes and References   Check out https://theedtechpodcast.com/edtechpodcast for the full show notes.  Tell us your story We'd love to hear your thoughts. Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via. twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast Facebook page or Instagram.