What does it mean to shift our ways of addressing ecological imbalances and diseases from antibiotic to probiotic? How are large-scale rewilding projects in the west related to biodiversity loss and land conversion in the ‘developing’ countries where food production is increasingly outsourced to? In this episode, we welcome Jamie Lorimer, a Professor of Environmental Geography at the University of Oxford. His research explores the cultures and politics of wildlife conservation, and he is the author of two books: Wildlife in the Anthropocene: Conservation after Nature and The Probiotic Planet: Using Life to Manage Life. The song featured in this episode is Butterfly and the Honeybee by Jake Gauntlett.   Help us reach our Patreon goal: Patreon.com/GreenDreamer Green Dreamer is a community-supported podcast and multimedia journal exploring our paths to collective healing, ecological regeneration, and true abundance and wellness for all. Find our show notes, transcripts, and newsletter at GreenDreamer.com.