Branch Warren?

Does anyone here believe branch warren would be thick as a brick, a threat to any contest if he trained like Patsy Mcguire? Coleman---multi Olympia winner Cutler---Healthy? He has had nerve damage problems with his left leg and right arm, and self admittedly a slightly torn pec (which he seemed to come out form unscathed).....I keep hearing how everyone and their brother uses Cutler for their argument to train "light"...LIGHT? LIGHT? The guy was 258 pounds onstage at the age of 23-24 and in a recent article tells everyone what he was using for weights at his heaviest poundages..... flat bench 550x2 incline 405x6-8 dumbell press flat 160-200 pounds squats 700x2 and 500x10 front squat 455x6-8 leg press 1000-1300 x10-30 reps hack 8 plates x 10 reps deadlifts 585x3 495x8 rack deadlifts 675x3-6 barbells rows 405x8-10 dumbells rows 200x10 cable rows 400x8-10 shrugs 600 pounds standing mil presses 315 pounds dumbells presses mil 160x8-10 skull crushers 4 plates for reps close grip bench press 405x8-10 Is that a walk in the park for anyone above? Is that lollygagging it? training like a pussy? Not in my book....and Jay Cutler gained the majority of his size in the first 6-7 years of lifting (right in the time frame where he said he trained the heaviest)

So lets take a look at the pictures below shall we? Everyone gets upset when I say this but do you see many white guys in bodybuilding with that look? (those proportions? those freakazoid genetics?) No you dont because the genetic elite in this sport are black bodybuilders (and sometimes German bodybuilders).....so lets take a look at the big picture here...... Who were and are some of the heaviest trainers in bodybuilding in the last 20 years Mike Francois Ronnie Coleman

Branch Warren Dorian Yates Robert Burnieka Chris Cormier Wow kind of weird that also seems to be most of the biggest and thickest bodybuilders of the 400 pro bodybuilders of that time also. Mike Francois comes along with backbreaking huge poundages used and beats out the genetically elite bodybuilders around him by brute force. Dorian Yates comes along with backbreaking huge poundages used and beats out the genetically elite bodybuilders around him by brute force. And then Ronnie comes along who was allready part of that genetically elite and when you combine that with huge poundages, he sets the bar so high that nobody can get near it (as witnessed by his 287, 296 Olympia wins and his 302 pound Euro grand Prix wins)....you wont see that for a long time. So with a very even playing field (pro bodybuilders who all have access to the same "things" and all have elite genetics)....what separates them? Heavy poundages in training creates a divide among them. So here you have Dusty Hanshaw....who 4 years ago placed 5th in the heavyweights at a Northwest show at roughly 221-224 pounds.....and was weighing 260 ish offseasn....and NONE OF YOU GUYS EVER HEARD OF HIM! He then starts destroying a logbook and using progressive weights in a SAFE MANNER in SAFE REP RANGES.....and along with progressive eating goes up to 313 pounds offseason and then wins the supers and overall in a big cali show, takes the superheavyweights at the JR USA and finishes top five in his first attempt at the USA's.......a guy who used to be like alot of guys in these forums in the offseason NOW COMPETES AT HIS FORMER OFFSEASON WEIGHT (263)!!! I give Jay Cutler utmost credit...he has been able to have a long career without a major injury....but he also uses therapists, massage techs, Active Release Technique therapists and other specialists of that ilk to the best of his advantage.....He knows when to push and when to hold up and he knows how to keep himself healthy....more power to him. Dusty Hanshaw also knows when to push and when to ease up and also uses many of the same tools Jay does with therapists/ART etc.... Dusty isnt doing singles and triples here....he is doing 10, 12 and 20 reps in his sets! Dusty Hanshaw knows what got him to the dance in the first place and thats brutal outmassing of his competitors....he is not going to turn into Berry Demey by lifting like Berry Demey....thats not his genetic blueprint. When you get to a certain size the human body will fight you tooth and nail to change (homeostasis is dominant) and you better come at it with a gameplan that will change things.

Being safe and saying "well im squatting 185 for 9 today and calling it a day" doesnt make the change.....squatting 500 for 20 reps does! Dont believe that? Then use the same poundages for the next 5-10 years that you were using yesterday and let us all know how different you look in 5-10 years (I allready know that answer) Heres the different looks of a heavy poundage trainer vs a pumping bodybuilder who placed second to him....night and day http://www.chadnicholls.net/forums/s...6&postcount=32 Noone ever said lifting weights was TOTALLY SAFE....it never will be...things happen...but you do the best of your ability to stay safe and healthy. (There arent many NFL players who got there playing flag football in college....theres a certain amount of risk to this endeavor to achieve continual progress)