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In the book Sand argues that most contemporary Jews don't originate from the ancient Land of
Israel. They never existed as a "nation-race" with a common origin. Most of them are decendents
of European, Russian and African groups that at various stages in history adopted the Jewish
religion. Just like others adopted Christianity. He also argues that for a number
of Zionist ideologues, "the mythical perception of the Jews as an ancient people led to
truly racist thinking".[2]
Sand's argument is that the people who were the original Jews living in Israel, contrary to what is
accepted history, were not exiled following the Bar Kokhba revolt[2] He has suggested that
much of the present day world Jewish population are individuals, and groups, who converted to
Judaism at later periods. Just like most contemporary Christians and Muslims are the progeny of
converted people, nt of the first Christians and Muslims: Judaism was originally, like its two
cousins, Islam and Christianity, a converting religion.
Additionally, he suggests that the story of the exile was a myth promoted by early Christians to
recruit Jews to the new faith. They portrayed that event as a divine punishment imposed on the
Jews for having rejected the Christian gospel. Sand writes that "Christians wanted later
generations of Jews to believe that their ancestors had been exiled as a punishment from God.[3]
Sand argues that most of the Jews were not exiled by the Romans, and were permitted to remain
in the country. He puts the number of those exiled at tens of thousands at most. This was, in fact,
how the book was born. He started looking in studies about the exile from the land, which is a
constitutive event in Jewish history, almost like the Holocaust. Sand claims that he could
discover no literature about the Jewish expulsion from Israel. His explanation is that no one
exiled the people of the country. The Romans sometimes committed etnocide but they didn't
exile peoples. Sand claims that mass exile wasn't logistically possible until the 20th century.
He further argues that many of the Jews converted to Islam following the Arab conquest, and
were assimilated among the conquerors. He concludes that the progenitors of the Palestinian
Arabs were Jews.[4]
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as follows : "[a]t a certain stage in the 19th century intellectuals of Jewish origin in Germany,
influenced by the folk character of German nationalism, took upon themselves the task of
inventing a people "retrospectively," out of a thirst to create a modern Jewish people. From
historian Heinrich Graetzon, Jewish historians began to draw the history of Judaism as the
history of a nation that had been a kingdom, became a wandering people and ultimately turned
around and went back to its birthplace."[2]
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splendid Golden Age - for example, classical Greece, the ancient 'Belgians', the Dutch 'Bataven'
or the Teutonic tribes - to prove they have existed as a separate people since the beginnings of
history. Before this, according to Sand, Jews thought of themselves as Jews only because they
shared a common religion. Just like Christians think of themselves as Christians, only because

they share a common religion. Not a common ethnic background.

Sand further claims that the idea of Jews being obligated to return from exile to the Promised
Land was entirely alien to Judaism before the birth of zionism. He claims that the holy places
were seen as places to long for, not to be lived in. On the contrary, according to Sand, for 2,000
years Jews stayed away from Jerusalem because their religion forbade them from returning until
the messiah came.

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kala elege mia groupara<<papadorokers panoushs kai punks polyethnikon oxi de tha paro
eyxaristo...oxi allo rock oxi allh ypokrisia de mas xezeis re panoush epixeirhmatia...>>
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andro 10:38, 18 2010
krazei o malakas o panousis gia na vgali fimi k lefta pali ........ ton idame se kammia poria pote?
mono na vazei 20 eyro k pano eisodo kseri gia na leei malakies k na ta perni o exristos
kobarsos.... poy kseri aytos ti exoyn perasei oi evreoi k giati toys vazei olous sto idio kalathi...
xodre k kode dropi soy ...... vres kati allo na pis k oxi ratsistika sxolia gia evreoys ..... se kathe
ratsa iparxoyn malakes .... an imastan eksipnoi oi ellines, pasok tha ixame tora?ade fae to bifteki
soy k skase!

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Apo th mia oi filoevraioi kai apo thn allh oi filopalestinioi .
Re 8a katalavete oti exoun polemo ? Apo th mia to mousoulmaniko 8eokratiko-fasistiko
ka8estws kai apo thn allh oi fasistes-siwnistes evraioi .
Apopseis tou stil "den 3ereis ti exoun perasei oi evraioi " einai EMETIKES . Loipon to evraioi
genikotera den simainei tipota . To na milas genika gia evraious ,xristianous, a8eous , satanistes,
mousoulmanous den paei na pei tipota,ase pou einai kai ratsistiko . To 8ema einai to israhl exei
vgalei to ladi stous palestinious . Alla poios fteei giauto ? To kratos , oi politikoi tou kai ta
sumferonta ftaine . O aplos kosmos tou israhl den ftaiei se kati . To oti oi evraioi exoun travi3ei
polla , ontws isxuei . Alla poioi evraioi ? Auta ta siwnistika-imperialistika ka8ikia pou kuvernane
opws kai oloi oi omoioi tous den exoun travi3ei tipota , einai h merida twn an8rwpwn pou oxi
apla den zorizonte sth zwh tous , alla me tis apofaseis tous zorizoun kai skotwnoun allous .
Gia tous palestinious isxuei akrivws to idio . Apo th mia oi fanatikoi pou polemane tous evraious
me ka8ara fasistiko logo kai einai anegkixtoi (akousate pote ta kefalia twn akraiwn
mousoulmanikwn organosewn na ta peirazei kanenas ? ) kai apo thn allh o laos ths palestinhs
pou sfagiazetai . Kai oi palestinioi exoun travi3ei polla . Alla poioi palestinioi ? O laos profanws!
Einai tou idiou eidous tomaria kai apo tis 2 meries . Den exoume apo th mia tous kalous evraious
kai tous kakous palestinious opws eftasan kapoioi apo panw na lene , oute to anti8eto . Einai
ahdiastiko na vlepeis kosmo edw mesa na tasetai uper tou enos h tou allou . Exete prose3ei oti
olwn ta sxedia einai imperialistika ? O enas 8elei na kataktisei ton allo . E oxi re . Den 8a
paroume kanenos to meros . Eimaste me ton kosmo kai apo tis 2 mpantes pou trwei ta skata .
Kai telos poia einai h lush ? Profanws h lush einai mia , h epanastash . Na stamatisoun na akoune
tous dolofonous fasistes pou tous phgainoun san provata se sfagh kai anti na polemane o enas ton
allo lao na fane o ka8enas ta dika tou ka8ikia wste na hsuxasoun . Outopiko ? As einai . Meta3u
2 fasistikwn ka8estotwn den uparxei kapoios na sthri3eis ,etsi kai alliws dhladh, otan o polemos
einai e8nikos kai 8rhskeutikos den uparxei kanenas na sthri3eis .

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