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Good point.that it coold be iiltelpreted this way -pertiaps better stated that weknow they participated in
the.protests. We donotknow.who was.responsiblefor the.deaths.
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the deaths of the American officers, Do know Ihis?
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Second tIck says we know eXtremISts with ties to AQ partlclpatei/.in the attack, which implies complicity in
the deaths .of the American Officers. Do. this?
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For.ODNCS -.at-this'moming APSel coffe'e with DCJA, HPSCI members:eagerly sought some
S9rt of ftwhite paper" tiiey could 'use to reply to numerous n'ledia .requestsasking for comments
on other regarding aitaCk$,
HPSCI has asked for unclassified points immeiJliJtelj that they dan.use in. talking to the I have
been aSked /o.provlde a hilon responsibility. NE is PJ.Illfl1g logether(he'finai produql. In addition 10 other
' Ibpics. NE wllI-add material about wamings:we gave to Cairo pdor to the demonstrations, as well as '
material on wamings we iSsueqptfor 10 9/11 anniversaty. Please.. take a quiCk look.to see if you believe
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For CTClLegatl? i that I Ibis to JIOu and anybody you 1hInk see in DGe to
make sure that notl1mg we:are:saylng'hef'e Is likejy"IO Impaqt any potsn!,alfuture Irmal prosecution.
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We believe based on.cunenUysvsilable information that the attacks in Benghazi were spontaneously
inspired bythe protests.at'lhe US Embassy in. Cairo and evolVed into a,direct assaufl against the US
Consulate and'sub$equentlyits annex. This sssessmenf.may.cfiange ss'addltional infonnalion is
collected and analyzed.and ClJrrenUy:i Jvaiia/Jle infOrmation continues to be evaluated.
The crowd alinoSt cerfalii/y was a mix of individuals from across many sectors of Libyan society. That
being said., 'We dO.kn,ow-thatlsla!llic extremists with ties to al-Oa'klt! Participated in the attack.
Initial press reporting linked thsaltack [0 Ansar aI-Shad a. The group has since released a statement
that the its leadership did not order the attacks, but did not deny that some of its members were
involVed; Ansar al-Sharia's facebook page alms to spread shana,in Libya and. emphasizes the need
for jihad to counierwhalit views as false interpretations. of Islam, ,!ccording to an open.source study.
It The wide.availability:ofweapons and.expenenced fighters in:Libya'almostcertainly Conlnbuled to the
lethality of the attacks.
Since April; then;; 'at less/five,other attacks agains(roreignJt1terests in Benghazi by
unidentified 'includii1glhe june attack against the BdtishAmlJassador's COf!vQY We
cannot ruleout that individuals hadpmvlously,sulVeilled the U.Sfaf;ilitif/S ,.'also contributing to the
effiCacyo.ftheattacks; .. : .
We are working'with Llliyan authorities and intelligence partners in an effort trJ:help bring Jo justice
those responsible for.the deaflls'OfU$ citizens.,
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I didn't ask NEJINT. Just CTC/INT.
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HPSCI has asked for' unClassified"polnts Immediately that to the media. I have
been asked to provide a bit on responsibility. NE is pulling product. In addition to other
topics, NE will add material about'wamings We gave to Cairo prior to as well as
material on warriil'!Qs we isst:ied prior to 9111 Please take a quick look to see If you believe
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'. We believe based on .in'B.engflazl spontaneously
inspired by. the. protests at- fimbassyin Cairo and evolved. iritcra'dltetr aSSaulfagalnst ttJe us
Consulate and subsequently its annex. This:assessment may change as additional:Jnformation.-is
collected.and analyzed and avaiJable information continues to be'evaluated .
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e The crowd almoSt certairily waS a mix of individuals from across many sectors of libyan society. That
being said" we do know 'that Islamic extremists with ties. to. .partidpated .in. the .attack.
Initial press reporting linked the attack to:Arisar al.:.sharia. The grOup has since released a statement
thatthe its leadership did notorder..the attacks . but did itsmemb.ers .
Anser C!I-Sharia's facebook .page aims to spreadshaiia in Ubya and emphasizes the need
fO( jihad to cOunter. whalltViews,as'.faJse interpretationS of.lslam. according to.an ope'n source study.
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The. wide availability of weaponS and experienced. fighters in .Llbya almost certainly contributed to the' .
lethality of the attacks.
Since April, there have been at least five other attacks against foreign interests 'in .BenghaZi by
unidentffled assailants, including the June attack against the-Biitish Ambassador's convoy. We
cannot rule out that individuals had previously su/VeiUed.the.U.S facilities. also cOntributing to the
efficacy of the attacks. . .
We are working with Libyan'authorities and intelligence partnersjri-an'effort'to help 'bring to justice
those responsible for.the:d.eath!>of US citizens .
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e We believe basedon currently available information thattha attacks in Benghazi
were spOntaneously inspired by the protests'at the US jn Cajro and
evolved into a direct I;lssauli againsttile.tJS'Consufateand subsequently its annex.
This assessmentmay change:as additional analyzed
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released a statement that the its leadership did not order the attacks, but did not
deny.that-some: of its members were invoived. Ansar facebook page.aims
to spread shatia.i,) Libya and emphasizesthe need.for'jihad to what it views
as false interpretations of Islam according to an open source study.
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contnbuted to the: lethatlty, Of the attacks.:: -. .
Since. April, there have .been at least five other' interests in
Benghazi by assailants, including the June attack against the British
Ambassadors cOnvoy .. Wecannat rule out that individuals had previously surveilled
the US facilities, .. atsQ confributin!;J to of the a"ttacks.
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. We believe based on currently av,lilableinformatlon'thaHhe,attacksJn Benghazi.:were Inspired by
the protests at the US ill dii"ect.assault-against'the US Consulate'and subsequently
its annex. This assessment may additional information is collected and analyzed and currently available
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HPSCI Points for Use With the Media
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-The currently available information' suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi
were spontaneously inspired. by the protests at the US' Embassy in Cairo and
evolved into a direct against the US Consulate and subsequently its annex.
assessment may change as additional informatioQ is and analyzed
and currently information continues to be evaluated-. On 10 $eptemberwe
warned of social media -reports calling' for a demonstration in..front' of the Embassy
and thafjihadists were,threateningto break.into Emb.as.sy.
The crowd almost certaih'Jy was a mixof.individua/sftom across many sectors .of
Ubyan.sc;>Ciety ... Theinvestigationis on-:Qoing as to who' is responsible. That being
said, we do know that Islamic extremists 'in .the violent
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refeased a statement that its 'leadership did not order the attacks, 'but did not deny
that some of its members were involved. Ansar aI-Sharia's Facebook page aims to
spread,_ sharia in Ubya and emph!;lsizes the need forJihad to counter what it views as
interpretations of _Islam an :?pen source study' .
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al'-Oaeda in Benghazi and eastern libya. These noted that, since April, there have
hearLat least.five other attacks against foreign interests in Benghazi by unidentifie<t
assailants, incll:Jding the June attack against the British Ambassador's convoy_ We
cannot rule out that individuals had previ.ously sUD/eilled U$ facilities ,. a/so
'contributing to the efficacy <?f the attacks _. :. . " ..
The US is wo(king with 'libyan auffiorities and :intelligence partnerS in
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o The available information suggests that thedemonstratlons in' Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by .
the protests at the. US Embassv in Cciiro,and evolvE:d into'a;airect assaUlt'agalnsttf;1e US Consulate ,and subsequentlv
its annex. This assessment may change as additlonal 'information is collected and.analy;z:ed and currently available
information continues'to be evaluated. On 10 September we warned of socia I media calling for a
demonstration in front of the Embassy and, jihadists .were threatening to break lnto the Embassy.
Q; The crowd almost certainly was a mix'of-Individuals from across many sectors 'of.Ubyan society. The investigation is
on-going as to who is responsible for-theviolence. That being said, we 'do 'know that rslamic extremists participated
in the violent demonstrations.
.. ,Initial press reporting finked:the attack to Aosa .... al-Sharia. The group has since released a statement that its
leadership did not order the attaoJ(s, but did not deny that some of its were "involved. Ansar al-Sharia!s
Facebook page aims to In libya and emphasizes the need for jihad to counter what it views as false
interpretations oflslam"accordii:ig,to an stud,v,: '
e, The wide availability of weapons and expei'ienc$d fighters in libya to the lethality of
the attacks. '
$ ' The Agency has produced numerous pieces on the threat of extremistS'linkedto al-Qa'eda in'Benghazi and eastern
libya. These noted that, since' April, there have been at least five 'other-attacks against foreign interests in Benghazi
bV unidentified assailants, including the against'the British Ambassador's convoy, 'We cannot rule out
that indiy.iduals' had previously. surveilled the: contribirtif1g, to.the: efficacy of the ,attacks.
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Q The US Government Is' working wittl,Ubyim aufhoritles and' intelligence.;partners 'in an effort to help bring to justice
those responsible for the"deathsof OS citizens,
Thanks,
Chief, Media Relations
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HPSCI White POints for Use with the Media.
14 September 2012
The currentlv available information suggests that ;thedemonstrations:in .Benghazl .. were spontaneously inspired by
the- protests at the: us Embassy 'in cairo and evolved into:a'ditect assault against the US CC?nstilate,and subsequently
its annex. This assessment may and a!1alyzed'and currentlY'available
Information continues to be 'evaluated. On 10 September we warned of soc;.!! calling for a
demonstration in front of the ,Embassy that jlhadistS were threatening to break:il'lto the.Embassy.
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The crowd almost ce'rtainfy was a mix of individuals from across mariy'se'ctors of l:ibyan.society. The investigation Is
on-going as to who is responsible for the Violence.: That being said, we do know.that !slamlc extremists participated
in the violent demonstrations. ' .
Initial press reporting linked the attack-to Ansar .. :The group has,since released a statement that its
leadership did' not6rder-the attacks, but did 'notdenvthat some were, involved .. Ansar al-Sharia's
Facebook page .aims to'spread sharia.ln UbYiiI and emphasizes the need for]ihad to:CQuriter what it views as' false
interpretations:of Islam, to,an .
II' The wideavailability of we a pons ancf'exPerienced'fighter.s In libya almost certain'!y,contributed to the lethality of
the attacks: .
e The Agency has produced numerous pieces on' the threat of extremists linked to in Benghazi and eastern
Ubya. These .. noted'thai. since April; there have been at feast attacks againstforeign interests in Benghazi
by unidentified assailants, including the.June attack against'the Ambassador.'s.convoy. We cannot rule out
that lndividuals had previo'usly surveilled.lhe US.facilities,'also oontribu'tll)g ,tothe of'the-attacks.
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. those respOnSible-for the of US. citizens. ,.; .,', .. .
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These are talking points for HPSCI's media. They asked the'OCIA.for them today.
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Subject; Revfsed HPSCI Talking Point:s
Colleagues:
Apologies for-the,delay.
please review this reVised version: '
H"!SCI White Pape,'TalkirtgPoirtts for Use'witfi the Media
-' 201? '
The currently'avallable information suggests that the demonstrationS in Benghazi'were spontaneously inspired by
the protests at.the US EmbaSSy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against-the US Consulate and subsequently
its annex This assessment.maY.change as additlonal information is collected and analyzed and currentlv avC!ilable
information contInues'to be evaluated. ',On 10 September we warned of social media reports calling for a '
demonstration in front oftfle thatjihadists werethreatening to into the Embassv.
The crowd almost certainly was a mix of indiviquals from across'many sec;:t'!rs 'of libyan society. The investlgatlon is
on-going as to who is. responsible for the violence. '1hat'beil'lg said; we, do Islamic extremists participated
in the violent demonstrations., ' " - , ,
Initial press-reporting'linked the-attacK to'Ansar al-Sharla. The groiJp'has since,released:a 'statement that its
leadership,dld not order the !lot,deny or.itS members were
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Facebool< page alms to spreai:t sharia In'Ubya and empHasizes the neeCI for Jthag, to counter what it views as fatse
interpretatipns of Islam; accordin.g:to an open source'study,
o The wide availability of weagons and -exPerienced libYa almoSt certain IV c.ontributed to. the lethality of
the. attacks. ' ... . - . : . - .
The Agency has prOduced"humerous pie(!E!s on the thre'at of extreniistsJinked to alfQaeda in Benghazi and eastern
libya. These noted -tliat" sinceApril, have been at least fIVE! other'attacks against rnterests In f3enghazi .
tiV unidentified assailants, 'Including the June:attack:agalnst the Britlsh.Ambassadofs cOnvoy. We.cannot rule oat
that individuals had prevIously surveilled.the US facilities, also contributing to the efficacy of the attacks.
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those of :. . .
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know you're trying-to'move these fast so an initial 'round in 3 of
buUet 1 for added clarity. Denis would also like to make'sure the highlighted portlQns are full coordinated with
the State Department inthe,event they get inquries. " .
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HPSCI White Paper TalkingPOints for'Usa with'the Media
14 September 2012
Q The currently available infOrmation suggests that inspired by
the protests at the US Embassy In Cairo'and evolved into a direct assault against:the liS Consulate and subsequently
its annex. ThiSassessmenl'!'ay change as additional'information is collected and currently available
information continues to be evaluated; On 10 September we warned of soda I media reports calling for a
demonstration in front of-Embassy CAIRO and thatJihadists werethreatenlngto:break into the Embassy.
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e The crowd almost certainlY was a mix'of Individuals frofl1:across many sectors of libyan society; The is
on-going as to who is responsible for the violence.. That'being saId, we do know that Islamic extremists participated
in the violent demonstrations.
Initial press reporting IInkE!!d the attack to 'Ansar TIle groupl1@s since:released.a statement that its
leadership dId ncit order the attacks, but.did not denvlhat some of its members were invoJved. Ansar al-Sharfa's
Facebook page alms to spread sharla in libya and emphasizes the ne/?dforJihad to tounter: what it views as false
of {slam,.according to an study,
The wide availability of weapons and,experlenced,fighters' in Ubya almost.certainlV the lethality of
the attacks. . ,
e' The Agency has produced numerous pieces on thetnr..eat of in Benghazi and eastern
libya. These noted that, since April, beenafleast.five other attacks againstforeign ftiterests in Benghazi
by unidentified assailants,.includlng the June attack agaihsUhe British Ambassador's convoy. We cannot rule out
that individuals had previously surveilled the US facilities, also efficacy of the, attacks.
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The US GOVernment is working with and ,partnersJ!1 an'effort to help bring to justIce
those responsible for ttle deaths of US'
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Thanks very much for.your prompt response, Tommv.
Will send over to STA.TE.
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ea: : 'Revised HPSCI Talking Points for 'Review:
know yOu'rlHrying to move these fast so here's an initial round of edits. One small tweak In' sentence 3 of
bullet 1 for added darity. Denis would also like to make sure the highlighted portions are full coordinated with
the State Department'il! the get inqurie?_ .
White Paper Talldng Points for Use with' the Med1"
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The' currently available infonnation suggests:that the i:femonstrations'in 'Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by
the proteSts at the US Embassy in ,cairo and evolved into a direct as_sault against the US Consulate and,subsequently
its annex. This assessment may changeas.additiorial information is collected and analyzed and currentlv. available
Information continues to be, evaluated. 00, September we warned of-social media reports calling for a
demonstration in ,front of and that were' threatening to break into the Embassy.
e, The crowd almost certainly was a mix ofindililduals from 'across manv.sectors of Libyan society. The investigation is
'on-going as to who is responsible for: That being said,.we do know that Islamic extremists participated
In the violent demonstrations. . , : '
.' Initia! press reponing liriked the' attack toAnsar The group :has since released a statement that its
leadership did not order the attacks, but did not deny that some of its:members were involved. Ansar al-Sharia's
Facebook page alms to,spread shariain libya emphasizes the neetffof.jihadto counter what it views as false
Interpretations of to .an open sOlJr.ce '
The wide availability of weapons anq experienced fighters In LIbya almost certarnly contributedto the lethality of
the attacks. . '
The Agency produced numerous pieces' on the threaf of eXtremiSts In and eastern
LibVa. These noted that, since :there have been at least.five other. ags,instforefgn.interests in Benghazi
by unidentIfied assailants, -including the June attack against the Sritisij.Ambassador.'s'convoV. We cannot rule out
that individuals had previously surv.eilled the us f.ldlitles, also COritritjuting to .the'efficacy of the attacks .
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HPSCI.TalRing Points for review
HPSCI requested' these talkers from.the DeJA tti,is morning.
The, White House has' reviewed them and wanted to ensure that ,you saw' them - especially portions
highlighted by the White House. . '
Kindly:iridicate that you ,have reviewed these paints. ' We are;plar:anlni 'on transmitting to the Hill tonight.
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HPSCi White points'for Use with,the Media
2012"
The currently available infOrmation sU'ggests tnat the demonstrations'in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by
the protests at the US Embassy In Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the US Consulate and subsequentlv
,its annex. This may change as.additional is' collected and analyzed:and currently available
information continues to be e\laluated. On 10 September we warned of-social media ,reports calling for a
demonstration in front of Eniba,ssy cAIRO and thatjihadists were-threatening tOibreak into the .Embassy.
- .. _. - '; .
The crowd almost certainly was a mix of Individuals'from across many sectors ofUbyan society. The investigation is
on-going as to who is responsible for the violence. That we' do know that Islamic extremists participated
In the violent demonstrations.
Initial press reporting lin:ked the-attack to ria. The group.hassince released a statement that its
leadership did not order the attacks" but did ;not'den.V that some of itS memb.ers \folere involved. Ansar al-Sharia's
Facebook page aims to spread" sharia in Libya and emphaslzes tt1t! needJor jihad to counter what it views as false
interpretations of Islam" according to an opensourc,E! study;
e The wide availability of weapons and experienced.fighters Ir:a Ubya almost certainly contributed to the lethality of
the ,attacks .
; The Agency has produced numerous pieces 011- the' linked to al-Qaeda .ln,Benghazl and eastern
libya. These noted that, since, Ap!,iI, there at least five'other against in Benghazi
by unidentified assailants,Jncluding.the June attack'against the convoy. We cannot rule out
that individuals had previously,surveilled, the US also contributing to the efficacy:of the attacks.
The US GO\lernment is workil"!g:with.Ubyan intelligence partners in an eff6rUo help bring to justice
those responsible forth,e l:Ieaths of'\JS:Citiiens.
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G On 10 September we notified Emb'lssV Cairoof social media reports calling for a .encouraging
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Subject: RE: RevISed HPSCITaJldng Points for Re'!iew:
very much for your
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know you're trying,to move these fast so an Initial round small tweak in sentence 3 of
bullet 1 for addeddarity. Denis would alsOJike to make'sure the"highlighted portions are full.coordinated with
the State Department in the event that get: inquries. . ' . .
HPSCI white Paper Talking Points fur Use with
. .14Septe":1ber 2q,12
e, The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in' Benghazi;were spontaneously inspired by
the protests atthe'US Emoillssy in Cairo and evolved into a dlrectassault US Consulate and subsequentlv
itsannex. This. assessment may change as additional information is collected and 'analyzed and currentlY'available
information continues to be evaluated, On'10 September we warned ofsocial reports calling for'a
demonstration in front of Embassy CAIRO and that jihadists. were threatening.to break into. the Embassy,
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The crowd almost ceJ1ainlywas a mix of indlVidi,Jals from across many sectors oHibyan society. The investigation is
on-going as to whois responsible for-the:violence .. That we do 'know_ that Islamic extremists participated
in the violent demonstrations.
Initial press reporting linked the attacli:.to Ansaral-Shaiia. 'riie group has since releasei::t a statement that its
leadership did not order toe attacks; but did not deny that some;ofits members .were involved: Ansar al-Sharia's
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looping in State. I think that's .a good adjustment.
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Subject: RE! Revised HPSq Talkln'g POInts fOr Review
I've been very careful not to say we issued. a Any with adi!Jsting the first: higtilighted line say:
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Thanks verv much for your prompt response, Tommy.
Will over to STATE.
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Subject: RE: Revised. HPSCLTalking Points for RevieW'
know yoU're trying to. move these fast so here"san Initial r4und of editS. One small tweak in sentence 3. of
bullet 1 for added darity. Denis wouid also like to make,sure the hlghlfghtecf portions are .full coordinated with
the State in t"e event that they get inqurles.
HPSCI White Paper Talking Polms for Use with the
14 Septe,mfier 2011'
The currently available information suggests 'that the demonStrations irrBenghazi were spontaneously Inspired by
the protests at the- US Embassy in Cairo and eyolved into a direct a.ssautt 'against the US Cqnsuiate and subsequently
its annex. This assessment may change as.addltlonallnforrT!ation is collected and analyzed available
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FYI, Brennan will nave edits. 1m waiting for those.
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Subject: RE: Revised HPSCI.Tallcing Points fur. Review
Thanks very much-forvour prompt response, Tommy.
Will send over to STATE.
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Subject: RE: Revised .HPSO Talking. pOif!t's for.
I know '!ou' re trying to move these fast edits.,One small tweak in.sentence 3 of
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John's edits are below.,Mostly in'bullet 2.
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all: } know these Rsfso here's'an'lpltfar round ohditS; '.Onesmall tweak in sentence 3'of
bullet 1 for added clarity. Denis would also liketb the highlighted portions are-full coordinated with
State Department in.the event that they getiliquries. -
'HPSO. White Paper TatlOng poims:for Use with the Media
. , . . .
The currently available Infoonation suggests tnat the dertionstr.atio!1s :In. Bengl1azi'!llere spontaneously inspired by
the protests atthe US Embassy in Cairo and evolved Into,s (i1rec.t assault against.the US Consulate and subsequently
its annex. This assessment"may change as.addiflonal infotmatiQn.is and'analYzed and currently,available
Information continues to be evaJuated. On 10 we warned of social media reports, calling for a
demonstration in front of EmbasSy'CAIRO and thatjihadists were to?break Into the Embassy.
The Investigation is on-goingas to who is responsibleforthe:vi,olenee. aithougfi.the crowd almost.certalnly was a
mix of individuals. -We.do know that Islamic-extremists participated in t1Je violent'demonstrations.
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Initia.' press' reporting linked the attacJ< to Ansar .. slrn::e.Teleased,a statement that 'its
leadership did not order the attacks, but did 'riOtdenv that some of its members were involved: Ansar
Facebook page a]msto. $pread'sharia In Ubya .and emphasizes the neet;! for 1ihad to counter what it views as false
interpretations of Islam, accofdiilg to an ape,n study.
8 The wide.availability of weap()nsandexperlenced lethality of
the attacks. . -. . - . . -
The Agency has produced numerouS' pieces on the threat of eXti:emfsts linked to,a!-Qaeda.in Bengf'lazi and eastern
UbVa. These noted that, have been at least five.other.atta!=k$ against foreign.lntere.Sts in Benghazi
by unidentified including,the )l,Ine' attack' aganlst .the:-BritlsliAmbas.sador.s convoy. We cannot ruleout
that individuals had thecUSJacilities; afSo;oontlibuth:lg .. to-tf\e'efficacy.of the attacks,
The I:'S Government Is working with libyan a",d intelligence partners In 'an effort to' help bring tojustice
those responsible for the deaths of US citizens.
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John's edits are below. Mostly in bullet 2.
I like the edit Shawn sent around.
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I know you're trying to move these fast an'h'jltial round of edits. One small tweak in'sentence 3 qf
bullet 1 for added clarity. Denis would also like to make sure the coordinated with
the State in the event that they get hlquries .
HPSCI White Paper Talki"g Points 'for'USe with the.:Media
14 September 2012
The currentlv available' ir'lformatlon.suggests,that the in"Benghazi were'spontaneously.jnspired by
the protests at the US Embassy; in Cairo and evolved into.a direct ass3tJlt:against the US Consulate. and' subsequently
its annex. This assessment may change as'additional information is collected and 'analyzed and currently. available
information continues to be'evaluated. On 10 september we wa rned of-social media reports.calllng.for a
demonstration in' front of EfTlbassy CAIRO and thatjihadist5:were threateniilg-to break
13 The investigation is.orf-going as to Who is 'responsible for. the violence .. altf10ugh the .crowd almost,certainly was a
mix of individuals. Wedo know that .Islamlc.extremists participated in the violent demonstrations.
Initial press reporting linked the.attack t6Ansar.al-Sharla., The. group has since' released a statement that its
leadership didnot order the' attacks, but did riot deny thatsome of .were.involved. Ansar al-Sharla's
Facebook page aims.to spread sharia in. libya and emphasizes the need 'for jihad to counter.what It vIews as false
interpretations .of Islam, according to a'n open source. study ..
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Are these for open or hearing? If "knowing" were extremists among
the demonstrators will' come back to us at podium - do we know,.whowere they, etc ... So ,'I!
need answers to those if we line, f?<.
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. ptember 14, 2012 6:41 PM
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SUbject: RE: Revised HPSO Talking fo,r
I've been very not to. say we .issued 'a!Naming,'Any concerilS'with adjustingtheJirst highlighted line.to say:
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On 10 September we notified Embassv. Cairo of social-media reports calling for a demonstration,and encouraging
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Subject: RE: Revised HPSCI Talking Points for ReView
tmtold that Chairman Rogers,intends use these talking points.on'Sunday.
Kindly respond to this note indicating that you've reviewed these talking points ASAP_
Thanks,
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These are talking points for HPSCl's use-with the media. asked DelA for them today .
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Guvs - - seeToria's question below. Can we.soften this b.it i
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Are these for open or dosed If open, tne.line ':knowing"there were extremists among
the demonstrators will come back to us at podium - how do we kn.ow, who were they, etc... So l'l!
need answers to those if we deploy that line, tx. . .
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FYI, Brennan will have edits. 1m waiting for those.
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lie been very'careful not to'sav we issued'a warning. highlighted line to say:
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I just had a convo I now understand that these ar:e.bei("!g prepared to give to Members
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O'n thafbasis; I have.serious concerns about ali the' parts. highlighted below, and arming members of
Congress to start making assertions to the medfa'thatwe ourselves are not making because we. don't
wanno prejudice the investigation'. ' " .
In same vein, why do we want H,lI'to be fingering -Ansar alShar:ia, when wearen't doing that
ourselves until we have irivestigationresults.:. and the 'penultimate point-could be abused by
Members to beat the State.Department, for not paying' attention.to Agency warnings so why do we
want to feed that either? Concemed ...
+Jake Sullivan, Dave Adams here
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Are these for open or closed hearing?' 'If open, the Jlri'e about '!RnowingJl therewere extremists among
the demonstrators will come back-to us at podium f}ow:do we.know,who were-theY, etc ... So ,'/I
need answers to those if"we deploy' that line, tx.
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C';Qm with CTO. we some CC?ncems: "
1. The.accuracy of the sentence. of the first bullet pOint which states "On .10 september we warned of'social media
reports calling for a demonstration in frnnt' of the Embassy and that jihadists were threatening to.break into the Embassy."
And- who is that is referenced?
2. We recommend editing the"1ast sentence in the seCond buller-point to "That being said; there are indications that
Islamic extremists participated in the violent 0-
' will be free to discuss.in about 2O:minutes.if necessary.,
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1 t/4 we are taking a look and I will back.
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Subject: RE: Revised Review.
Colleagues:
I'm told that Chairman Rogers intends to use ttlese'talking'points 0('1 Sunday.
Kindlv respond to this note indicatingthat you've talking ..
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/'just had a 'convo with/ and I now.understand that these are:being prepared.to give to Membe.rs
of Congress to use with the media.
On that basis, I-have serious concerns about all-the parts highlighted below, and arming members of
Congress to start making assertions to the-media that we are not making because we don't
'vant to prejudice the i'nvestigation.
In' same vein, why do' we want Hill to pe fingering Ansa! al. when we aren't doing that
ourselves until we have investigation results... and the penultimate point could be abused by
Members to beat the State Departmeht for not -paying so why do we
want to feed tliat efther7 Concer.ned... .
+Jake Sullivan, Dave Adams here'
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with Toria. The last bulJet espeCiallV',!"iII reC!d to members we had been repeatecf!v warned .
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I just had a convo and I. now understalld that these ar.e being prepared give to Members
of Congress to use with the media. -
On that basis, I have serious concerns about all the parts highlighted below"and arming members of
Congress to start making assertions to the that w.e ourselves arenot.making because we don't
want to prejudice the investigation,
in ,same vein, wh.v dO' we want H.iil'tobefingei:lng',Ansar al Sharia, when, we_aren't doing that
ourselves,until we.have investigation results.,', 3!1d the penultimate point .could be abused by
Members to beat the.State Department for not paying to Agency warnings so why do we
want to' feed that either? Concerned,., .
+Jake Dave Adams here
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Are these for open or closed hearing?lf'open. the-line .aboutl'knowing" there were extremists among
he demonstrators will come :back to podi.um- hov.i do we who-were they, -etc_,. So "II
need answers to those .if we deploy that:line, tx:.
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Friday, September 14,20128:58 PM
To:
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Nuland, Victoria J; Sullivan, Jacob J; Rhodes, Benjamin J.; Sm rt:::. PA
RE: Revised HPSCI Talking Points for Review
We will use these too
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From: Nuland, Victoria J [nulandyj@ :1
Sent: Friday, September 14,201208:55 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: Vietor, Tomm:y; Sullivan, Jacob J; Rhodes, Benjamin J.; St-k"\>A-
Subject: Re: HPSCI Talking Points for Review
are points for Congress to use w pres.s. Shdnt they be consistent with our own public lines if we are
recommending them?
From: Vietor, Tammy [mailto:Thomas_F._Vietor@' ]
Sent: Frfday, September 14, 201208:43 PM
To: Sullivan, Jacob J; Rhodes, Benjamin J. <Benjamin_J._Rhodes@1 .
Subj ect: RE: Revised HPSCI Talking Points for Review
>; PA ; Nuland, Victoria J
There is massive disinformation out there, in particular with Congress. They all think it was premeditated based
on inaccurate assumptions or briefings. So I think this is a response to not only a tasking from house intel
committee but also NSC guidance that we need to brief members/press and 'correct the record
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Su.bject: FV.l: Revised HPSCI Talking Points for Review
Skinnying list. I do not understand the nature of this exercise. And some of the statements below are new by me. Can
we have a conversation before this goes out?
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Sent: Friday, September 14, 20128:39 PM
To: NuJand, Vlct-oria J; NSC Deputy Press Secretary; , U r, ... () ? '''' ..
Rhodes, Benjamin J.; N SS I W H P
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I'm with Toria. The last bullet especiaJly will read to members like we had been repeatedly warned.
From: Nuland, Victoria J
Sent: Friday, September 14,20127:39 PM
TO: Nuland, Victoria J; NSC Deputy Press Secretary; !
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Adams, David S
Cc: CIA oc:..A
Subject: RE: Revised HPSCI Talking Points for Review
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I just had a convo with I and J now understand that these are being prepared to give to Members
of Congress to use with the media.
On that basis, I have serious concerns about aU the parts highlighted below; and arming members of
Congress to start maki ng assertions to the media that we ourselves are not making because we don't
want to prejudice the investigation.
In same vein, why do we want Hill to be fingering Ansar al Sharia, when we aren't doing that
ourselves until we have investigation results... and the penultimate point could be abused by
Members to beat the State Department for not paying attention to Agency warnings so why do we
want to feed that either? Concerned ...
+Jake Sullivan, Dave Adams here
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Sen"::; Friday, September 14, 21)127:16 PM
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Are these for open or-closed hearing? If open, the line about tlknowing"-there were extremists among
the demonstrators will come back to us at podium - how do we know, who were they, etc ... So I'll
need answers to those if we deploy that line, tx.
This email is UNCLASSIFIED.
From: Vietor, Tommy [mailto:Thomas F. Vietor@'
Sent: Fridav. Seotember 14, 2012 6:48 PM
To. (1 .. 1- .. Shawn.Turner@ _ c,.,\ dPA ; Rhodes, Benjamin J.; N $5 I
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Subject: RE: Revised HPSCl Talking Points for Review
FYI, Brennan will have edits. 1m waiting for those.
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Subject: RE: Revised HPSCI Talking Points for Review
L?oping in State. I think that's a good adjustment.
from: Shawn 5 Turner
Sent: Friday, September 14,20126:41 PM
To: (!.IA CfA; Vietor, Tommy; Rhodes, BenjaminJ.; NSS j WH
Cc: CIA DCA
Subject: RE: Revised HPSCI Talking Points for Review
I've been very careful not to say we issued a warning. Any concerns with adjusting the first highlighted line to say:
o we notified Embassy Cairo of sociaJ:media reports calling for a demonstration and encouraging
jihad'ist"s to 'break into the Embassy. -
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Sent: Friday, September 14, 20t2 6:24 PM
To: Vietor, Tommy; Rhodes, Benjamin J .; N s.s -lf1J If f'P-.sS
Cc: (I" Ishawn S Turner '
Subject: RE: Revised HPScr Talking Points for Review
Thanks very much for your pmmpt response, Tommy.
Will send over to STATE.
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Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 6:21 PM
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Subject: RE: Revised HPSCI Talking Points for Review
LJjA, cr/r
, I know you're trying to move these fast so here's an initial round of edits. One small tweak in sentence 3 of
bullet 1 for added darity. Denis would afso like to make sure the highlighted portions are full coordinated with
the State Department in the event that they get inquries.
HPSCI White Paper Talking Points for Use with the Media
14 September 2012
o The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghali were-spontaneousiv inspired by
the protests at the US Embassy in Cairo and evolved.into' a direct assault against the US Consulate and subsequer.ttly
its annex. -This assessment may change as additional iflformation is collected and analyz.ed and currently available
information continues to be evaluated. On 10 September we warned of social media reports calling for a
demonstration in front of Embassy CAIRO and that jihadists were threatening to break into the Embassy. {this is ok
as changed above ... }
The crowd almost certainly was a mix of individuals from across many sectors of Libyan society. The investigation is
on-going as to who is responsible for the violence. That being said, we do know that Islamic extremists participated
in the violent demonstrations.
o The wide availability of weapons and experienced fighters in Libya almost certainly contributed to the lethality of
the attacks.
~ The US Government is working with libyan authorities and intelligence partners in an effort to help bring to justice
those responsible for the deaths of US citizens.
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Sent: Friday, September 14, 20125:09 PM
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Cc: c:.../A O<':A Shawn,Turner@t .
Subject: Revised HPSCI Talking Points tor R.eview
Colleagues:
please review this revised version:
HPSCI White P a ~ l e r Talking Points for Use with the Media
14 September 2012
o The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by
the protests at the US Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the US Consulate and subsequently
its annex. This assessment may change as additional information is collected and analyzed and currently available
information continues to be evaluated. On 10 September we warned of social media reports calling for a
demonstration in front of the Embassy and that jihadists were threatening to break into the Embassy.
<I) The crowd almost certainly was a mix of individuals from across many sectors of Libyan society. The investigation is
on-going as to who is responsible for the violence. That being said, we do know that Islamic extremists participated
in the violent demonstrations.
G Initial press reporting linked the attack to Ansar al-Sharia. The group has since released a statement that its
leadership did not order the attacks, but did not deny that some of its members were involved. Ansar al-Sharia's
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Faeebook page aims to spread sharia in libya and emphasizes the need for jihad to counter what it views as false
interpretations of Is/am, according to an open source study.
The wide availability of 'weapons and experienced fighters in Ubya almost certainly contributed to the lethality of
the attacks.
The Agency has produced numerous pieces on the threat of extremists linked to al-Qaeda in Benghazi and eastern
libya. These noted that ; since April, there have been at least five other attacks against foreign Interests in Benghazi
by unidentified assailants,. including the June attack against the British Ambassador's convoy. We cannot rule out
that individuals had previously sunieilled the US faCilities, also contributing to the efficacy of the attacks.
The US Government is working with Ubvan authorities and intelligence partners in an effort to help bring to justice
those responsible for the deaths of US citizens.
Thanks,
Chief, Media Relations
CIA Office of Public Affairs
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Here's where we stand 'as of this hour.
Everyone has submitted' coordination
The State Department had major reservations with much or moSt: of the dpcument. We revised'the document'with their
concerns in mind. the latest versio.n is below, as sent to State, '
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We further discussed the HPSCI talking points with your comments and concerns in'mind.
"he FBt did not have major concerns with the points'and:offered only a
Here's the latest'version ofthe,poiilts. Please let us
Thanks, '
I:fPSCI White Paper raffling POints for Use.wlth the Media
1,.4 2012 .
e The.currently available information suggests thattne'aemonstrations,in Benghazi'were.sJ:?ontaneously
inspired by the protests at the US Embassy.in Cairo and 'evo!vedinto a direct assault against the US
Consulate and subsequently its annex. This assessment may change as additional information is collected
and analyzed and.currentlYavailable information continues to be evaluated. On 10 September the Agency
notified Embassy Cairo. of social media reports eallii'lg for-a-demonstration and encouraging jihadlsts to
break'into the . .'
el The investigation .is:on-going as. to who is responsible for the violence"although the crowd almost certainly
was a mix of individuals. That being said, there are indications that. Islamic' extremists participated in the
violent demonstrations. .
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Just aquesfion-. but sepamte fromthe FBI concerns, has OOJ, 'provided input? TheyWiIi have to deal with the the
prosecution and related surrC?unding investigation. .
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SU.bject: RE: Revised HPSCI Talking Points 'for. Review
On that very issue, faria, we are.waiting to hear back from the Bureau. I (' . :'
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I just ha'd a convo withJ being prepared to to Members
of Congress to 'use with the media.
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On that 'basls, I have serious concerns about all .the. parts' highlighted ,be'low" and afming .members, of
Congress to stai:t:making.assertiqns to the r:nedia that. we_ourselv,es are-not making because we don't
want to prejudice the.'investigation; .
In same vein, why.do we. want Hilrto beJingering al Sharia, when.wearen'tdoing that
ourselves until we have iiwesfigatlon results ... . and the pen.ultimate point could be abused' by
to beat the Stafe Deilartment for !'Jof paying attentio.n'to ;Agency,warnings so why do we
want to feed that either? Concerned ...
jake Sullivan, Dave-Adams here
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These don't resolVe a!l mv issues or t.hose t;lf my bUifding leadership. They ar.e .consulting wNSS.
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Toria:
We furtherdiscussed the talking poinfswith.youpcomi'nents.and concerns in. mind.
The fBI did. not have major concerns with the points and offered only a'couple of minor.
Here's the latest version of the points. Please let us k.nowYOiJrthoughts,ASAP.
Thanks,
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HPSCIWflite Paper' Talking Points for 'Use with the Media
14 September'2012
The currentlyavailable information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously
inspired by the protests at the US Embassy in Cairo and evolved.lntoa direct assault the US
Consulate and subsequently its .annex. This assessment may change as 'is collected
and analyzed and currently available 'information continues to be evaluated. On. 10 September the Agency
notified EmbassY'Cairo of reports calling for a .demonstration and.encouraging Jlhadists to
break into the. Embassy.
. e ' The investigation' is on-going as to who forthe violence, although the crowd almost certainly
was a mix of individuals. That beihg'said, th'ere'are tnatJslamic extremists participated in the
violent demonstrations. ' . .
e. The wide availability of weapons andexpe.rlenced fighters in.Llbya al.rrlost certainly contribUted to the
lethality of the attacks.
8 The Agency has produced numerous piec:;es on-the threatof.extremists linked to al-Qaeda in Benghazi and
easternUbya. Since April, there have been at-least five foreign interests in Benghazi
by unidentified assailants, incfudingthe June attack against the' British Ambassador's convoy. We cannot
rule out that Individuals had previous!V surveilfed the US facilities, als.o contributingto the efficacy of the
attacks. .
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Nuland, Victoria J
Friday, September 14,20129:24 PM
Sullivan, Jacob J
Fw: Revised HPSCI taking paints
Sent: Friday, September 14, 201209:23 PM
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Re: Revised HPSa taking points
These don't resolve all my issues or those of my building leadership. They are consulting w NSS.
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We further discussed the HPSCf talking points v';ith your comments and concerns in mind.
The FBI did not have major with the points and offered only a couple of minor suggestions.
Here's the latest version of the points. Please let us know your thoughts ASAP.
HPSCI White Paper Talking Points for Use with the Media
14 September 2012
" The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously
inspired by the protests at the US Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the US
Consulate and subsequently its annex. This assessment may change as additional information is collected
and analyzed and currently available information continues to be evaluated. On 10 September the Agency
notified Embassy Cairo of social media reports calling for a demonstration and encouraging jihadists to
break into the Embassy.
The investigation is on-going as to who is responsible for the violence} although the crowd almost certainly
was a mix of individuals. That being said, there are indications that Islamic extremists participated in the
viole'nt demonstrations. .
1
The wide availability of weapons and experienced fighters in libya almost certainly contributed to the
lethality of the attacks.
c The Agency has produced numerous pieces on the threat of extremists linked to alQaeda in Benghazi and
eastern Ubya. Since April, there have been at least five other attacks against foreign interests in Benghazi
by unidentified assailants, induding the June attack against the British Ambassador's convoy. We cannot
rule out that indlviduals'had previously surveilled the US faciUties, also contributingtq the efficacy of the
attacks.
The US Government is working with libyan authorities and intelligence partners in an effort to help bring
to justice those responsible for the deaths of US citizens.
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RE: RevISed -HPSCI Talking 'Poirits for Reylew'
I had a comio I now understand that being, prepared to give to Members '
of Congress to use with, the media.
On that basis, I have serious concerns about ail the 'parts 'highlighted below, and arming members of
Congress to start making' assertions"to i ,he media that ol:lrselves are not making becausewe don't
want to prejud!ce the investigation. . "
In same vein,.whv do w.e' want HiIIto be fingering Ansar al Sharia .. When we aren',t doing that
ourselves until we have investigation results .. and the' penultimate point.cQuld be abused by
Members to beatthe State Oepartmerit for,not'paying:attention to Agencywarnings.so.why do we
want to feed that either? Concerned; ...
Dave Adams here
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Given DOJ run some safe to assume,we can hold on this-until tomorrow?
Just a question- but separate from the' FBI concems, 'has OW, provided'input'/' They will. have to.deal with the the
and related legal matters,surrounding.the -
On that issue"Toria, we are waiting to hear'back,from the i c.:r:A- 0 fA
I just had a convo O$nd'! that'these are being prepared to give to Members
Congress to use with the .
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Revised HPSCI taking points
Talked to Tommy - we can make edits.
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These don't resolve a/l my issues or those of my building leadership. They are consulting w NSS.
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Subject: Revised HPSCI taking points
Toria:
We further discussed the HPSCI talking points with your cumrnents and concerns in mind.
The FBI did not have major concerns with the points and offered only a couple of minor suggestions.
Here's the latest version of the points. Please let us know your thoughts ASAP.
Thanks,
HPSCI White Paper Talking Points for Use with the Media
14 September 2012
III The currently information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously
inspired by the protests at the US Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the US
Consulate and subsequently its annex. This assessment may change as additional information is collected
and analyzed and currently available information continues to be evaluated. On 10 September the Agency
notified Embassy Cairo of social media reports calling for a demonstration and encouraging jihadists to
break into the Embassy.
~ The investigation is on-going as to who is responsible for the violence, although the crowd almost certainly
was a mix of individuals. That being said, there are indications that Islamic extremists participated in the
violent demonstrations.
CJ The wide availability of weapons and experienced fighters in Libya almost certainly contributed to the
lethality of the attacks.
(I The Agency has produced numerous pieces on the threat of extremists linked to al-Qaeda in Benghazi and
eastern libya. Since April, there have been at least five other attacks against foreign interests in Benghazi
by unidentified assailants, including the June attack against the British Ambassador's convoy. We cannot
rule out that individuals had previously surveilled the US facilities, also contributing to the efficacy of the
attacks.
OJ The US Government is working with Libyan authorities and intelligence partners in an effort to help bring
to justice those responsible for the deaths of US citizens.
ex It oPIt
Chief, Media Relations
CIA Office of Public Affairs
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Sorry to be'late to this discussion.Weneed to resolVe this: in a W<JY that respects all:ofthe'relevant equities, particularlv
the investigation. . .- .
There is a ton of wrong information getting out into the'publlc domain from 'Congress aridpeople who are not
particularlv informed. Insofar as'we have firmed up assessments that don't compromiSe Intel or the investigation, we
need to have the capability to correct the there are sigriificanf policY and'messaging ramifications that would
flow from a hardened , '
We can. take this up tomorrow'morning ?It
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Given equities and States desire to run some ti:aps', safe tQ,a:ssume we can hold on,this until tomorrow?
Just a question- but separate from;the FBI concerns, M.s ObJ; provided>input? ThE;ly. will have to,deal with the the
prosecution:and related legal, maUers surrounding
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Sorry to be late to this discussion. We'need to resolve this in a way that respects allof the. relevant equities, particularlv
the investigation.
There is a ton of wrong. information'getting'out into ttle public domain from Congress and people wh,o are not
oarticularly informe(i. Insofar as we have'firmed up ass.essments'that don't comprqmise intel or the investigation, we
.eed to have the capability to' correct record,. as there are and ramifications that would
flow from a hardened mis-impression.
We can take this up tomorrow morning at deputies .
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Subject:. RE: Revised HPSCI Talking Points for RevleIiII
Given equities and desire :to .run sOII!e traps, to assume we can hold until tomorrow?
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FIUsays AU (not AQIMwas:iiwolveiland they are pursuing t/'lattbeary.
So we are not ahead of law enforcement"now;
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So are cleared to sen'd to,congress?'
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Here's where we stand as ofthis 'hour.
Everyone has submittedcoordination comments.
The State Department had major reservations with'much or'most ofthe We.revised the document with their
concems in mind. The latest version is below, as sent tf,) Sta!e.
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Toria:
We further discussed the HPSCI falking points'with your concerns in mind.
The FBI did not have major with.thepoii'lts' and'Offered.only ofminor:sugge?tions.
Here's the latest version oUhe points. Please.letus know your
Thanks,
HPSCI White Paper Talking Points'for' Media
. 14 ber 2012
The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations. were spontaneously
inspired by the protests at the US Embassy in Cairo,and into a the US'
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Sorry to be !ate to this discussion. We need 'to resolve this io a way that respectsall ofthe relevant equities. particularly'
the investigation. . .
There Is a ton of wrong Information getting out'iilto-the. public domain .frpm.Congress and people who are not
particularly informed. Insofar as we have firmeii up assessments that compromise intel or the .investigation, we
need toflave the: capability to correctthe:record; astl:lere.are:slgnificant-,P.olic;v and messaging ramifICations that would
flow from a hardened mis-impression. .
We can take this up at deputies.
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Sir- We've tried to. work the draft tallUng points fOr HPSO through the coOrdination process but have run Into major
Perhaps as a result of the afternoon teleconference, a Rumberof agendes have been looped in. The White
House.deared qulc!dy, butState has major concerns. The Bureau deared witlu few.comments.but asked that Justice.
whkh would handle any criminal prosecution, be brought In. It fs'fMdent.that wiWnot happen tonight. and Ben Rhodes
has asked thanhls Issue be reviewed tomorrow morning at Deputies"meetlng: ..
Additionally. Eric Schmitt oHhe NvT contacted us' to let us know that he had" spoken with Rep. Ruppersberger. who had
given 111m a readout of your seSsion.
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FBI says AQ (not AQIM) was involved and they are pursuing that
So we are not ahead of law enforcement now.
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concerns in mind. The latest version is as sent to State.
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We further discussed the HPsel talking:points with your comments:and'eoncems in.mind.
The FBI did nothave major concerns with paintS and o..,-Iy of minor suggestions.
the latest version of the points ... Please Iet us.know your
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So are cleared to send to congress?
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Here's where we stand as ofthis hour;
Everyone has submitted coordination comments_
The State Department tlad major reservations with muth,o'r most document. We revised the with their
concerns in mind. The latest version is below"as senno State.
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We further discussed the HPSa talking pOints with your comm.ents and concerns in mlod.
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,he FBI did not have major concerns with the points only a couple of minor suggestions.
Here's the latest versIon of the points; . PleaSe let. us know your .
Thanks,
HPSCI white P.aperTalking POints for 'Use with the Media
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The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Bengh<;lzi were spontaneously
inspired by tbe protests at the US Embassy in cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the US
Consulate and subsequently its annex. This assessment h'iay change as additional information is collected
and analyzed and currently available information continues to be On lO.September the Agency
notified Embassy Cairo of social media reports calling for a demonstration and encouraging jihadlsts to
break into the Embassy. .
The investigation Is on-going as to wno is responsible for"the violence, although the crowd almost certainly
was a mix of individuals. That being said, there are that 'Islamic participated in the
violent demonstrations .
G The wide availability of weapons and experienced fighters in al(ilost'certainly contributed to the
lethality of tlie attacks.
The Agency has produced numerous pieces o'n the threat of extremistsfiriked to al-Qaeda in Benghazi and
eastern Ubya. Since April, there have been at least five other attacks against foreign interests In Benghazi
by unidentified assailants, including the June attack, against the British Ambassador's convoy. We cannot
rule out that individuals had previously surveilled the us facilities, also contributing,to the efficacy of the
attacks. . ,
The US Government 'is working with libyan, authorities and 'intelligence partners';" an effort to help bring
to Justice those responsible for of
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additi.onal iDformation 18 collected and analyzed-ad cubently available information
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Re: libYa - Unclass Ie pts
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Jake - understand from IJSvN that you're working a set of unclas s IC pts on libya for the
Hill. If these are going to be finalized by Sunday am (or COB today), can we get a copy for
Susan to ensure we're on the same msg? Happy to have VSVN work with whomever on the
State team is handling this, unless it's you - in which case happy to get them directly.
Whatever is easiest.
Many thx.
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Fw:
Check out the below. You and should confirm w Ben that Susan can deploy tomorrow.
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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2912 11:26 AM
To: 'Rhodes, Benjamin J.' <Benjamin J. Rhodes@ 'j 'michaejm@l
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This looks good. Two small edits:
1. We call it "the US mission or the "US diplomatic because it is not actually a
Consulate.
2. There is a missing "of" in the third tic.
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This is gooe by me.
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Per the discussion at Deputies, here are the revised TPs for HPSCI. Let me know what you
think.
- -The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were
spontaneously inspired by the protests at the US Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct
assault against the US Consulate and subsequently its annex. There are indications that
extremists participated in the violent demonstrations.
--This assessment may change as additional information is collected and analyzed and as
currently available information continues to be evaluated.
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--The investigation is on-going, and the US Government is working with Libyan authorities to
bring to justice those responsible for the deaths US citizens.
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has captured the changes below. Please run the points
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concerns about mentioning the warnings and toe other work done on but you' will want to
reemphasize in-your note to .DtlA. Thanks. Michael
2912 12:13 PM
Here's where we are with the tweaks ' a1=ter tweaks :from 'Sen and' Jake:
--The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi ' were
spontaneously inspired by the protests at' the US Embassy in Cairo, and evolved into a 'direct
assault against the US diplomatic post. in ,Bengha'zi and.subsequentlY' 'its. annex. There are
indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations.
--This assessment may change as additional infOrmation is collected and analyzed. and as
currently available information continues to be evaluated.
--The investigation is and the. US Government is 'working with Libyan ,authorities to
bring to justice. those for the deaths of US citizens .
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Sent: Saturday, September 15( 201205:59 PM
To: Rhodes, Benjamin J.; Vietor, Tommy
Subject: PN:
Is this the final language you want to use on Benghazi? Have short window to get her something on paper soon.
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From: Sullivan, Jacob J
Sent: Saturday, September 15,201202:43 PM
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Subject: Fw:
Check out the below. You and v;.o\\lshould conflrm w Ben that Susan can deploy tomorrow.
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1. We call it "the US mission" or the "US diplomatic post" because it is not actually a Consulate.
2. There is a missing "of' in the third tic.
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This is good by me.
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