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Executi ve summary pertaining to t he
interrogati on report of David Coleman
Headley@Daood Gi lani :
David Coleman Headley presently in the custody of the US
authorities was given access to the NIA investigating learn with
effect from .3rd June, 2010 to 9t h June, 2010 in the presence of
his counsels ,FBr prosecutors and FBI officials. The NIA team
availed 34 hours Lof time) to interrogate the subj ect. No audio
and video recording was allowed.
02. At prescnt David Coleman Headley has been put under the
w itness protection programme of the Federal Government and
he is bei ng treated as the star witness in the trial of Tahawwur
Hussain Rana. RamI's Inal IS expected tos start with effect from
01Novcmbcr, 2010.
03. During the interrogation, Headley cooperated With the NIA
learn and answered all the questions put to him except
questions pertaining to his immediate family members.
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O ~ HCJdlcy dllrma his m! ctrog<llion tHKlmb,guousl y admitted his
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role as an LeT operative who was a part of the conspiracy to
wage war against India.
05 During the interrogation he mentioned the roles of vanous
leT operatives which inter alia include Hafiz Saeed the Ameer of
LeT(chief}, Zaki-ur-Rchman Lakhvi the chief military commander
and various middlde level commanders of LeT. (Sajid Majid,
Muuammil,Abdur Rchman@Pasha,Abu Alqama,Abu Qahafa,Abu
Anas, Abdul A:tiz.Abu Hamza,Yaqub)

06.He has clearly mentioned the role of 151 officials who have a
profound influence and a great control over the top brass of the
LeT. He further stated that he used to separately brief his lSI
handler aftor each reconnaissi1ncc visit to Mumbai. He also
carried out certain exclusive reconnaissance tasks for his 151
handlers.
07,Accordi ng to Headley after the Mumbai attack he became
closer to Illyas Kashmlri of 313 Brigade(AI Qacda) and Abdur
Rehman@Pasha (who gal separated from the LeT scI up).
08. Headley has also admitted that his reconnaissance videos on
the five targets in Mumbai which were attacked on 26/11 were
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crucial for tho success of LeT He <.1150 s:illcd lhat Ihe
reconnaissance vi deos in respect 01 other targets .- Mumbai
,Dclhi, Punc.Goa,and Pushkar will be cert ainly used by LeT or
313 Bri dges to attack India and cause largo scale damage.
09. Headley had specifically stated more than once that his
acti vi ties relating t o task given 10 h im by LeT were not known to
any person in India nor had he exposed himself to such a situat ion
for someone in India to suspect his designs.
10. He has given a clear picture of various traming programmes of
LeT, the trainers, the tr ainees which may be of usc to our
intelligence and securit y agencies.
10 He has given details of some LeT IISI safe houses, LeT
operational camps, LeT's technological capabi l i ties
11. LeT has now f ormed a naval wing under Yaqoob which will be
potentially used a9ainsllndia.
12. Headley has given some details about Pasha's Karachi set up
which is primarily meant to be used against India.
13. During the intcrr09ation he identified the photographs of SaJid
Majid, Abdur Rehman Hashim and Abu Alqama. He also Identi f ied

the vOices of AI:u Alqarna, SJJld Maj id and 4bu Oafaha cOl1 troliill(]
the MUlllbai attackers from Karachi.
14. The additional facts whi ch were not known to us so far and
which came out from the interrogation are given below:
L Every major action of LeT IS done only after t he approval of HafiZ
Saeed. Headley maintains that Hafiz Saeed had full knowledge of
Mumbai attacks and it was launched only after his approval. Headley
believes that Hafiz Saeed never acknowledges it publicly, though he
remains abreast with each and every stage of planning and
execution. DUring this meeting Hafiz Saeed also mentioned Bal
Thackery and the aileged damage he (Thackery) had done to Muslim
Ummah(nation). Headley believed that thiS ' .. ,'as an indication that LeT
wanted to take some action on thiS front.
II. The 26/11 Mumbai attacks were possible only due to the comple:e
support of lSI. According to Headley every big action of L-e-T IS dare
in close coordination with 151. The money which was used by Headley
for his surveillance activities in Mumbai was provided by t1ajor iqC3!...
of lSI.:. Headley believes that the money \Ah which the first bOct
costll1g Rs. 25 lakhs was purchased, was al50 provided by lSI. Tbs
boat was destroyed as the first attempt to reach Mumbal 111 S:;)t
2008 failed. Headley thus believes that lSI was fully involved In
26/11. Moreover,Headley mentioned getting a boat loaded weh
weapons to India had to have been cleared by Pakistan
authorities. Salid apprised Headley that thiS part had been taken Cere
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'!. P-:cordmg tr: Headley, f!lJer/lmportant men-ber of lel IS handled by
G'le nr mor'- lSI omcials. HIS ISIJlandJcrs VJere Majer IqbaLan..cLMaIQL
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S ~ m e e r AII.:- Abdur Rehman Hdshlm was handled by Col Shah.
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. $,ml larly, hE knows t hat one Brig Riyaz based In r-1uzaffarabad,
handles Zakl -ur-Rehman Lakhvl, the chi ef mdl tary commander of LeT.
After the Mumbal att ack, Zakl was arrested and kept in Udlal JaiL The
151 DG, SUJ].:! Pasha had VISited him to under'>tand the f'.' umbal attack
conspiracy. SaJld had claimed before Headley that he had met Zakl
v,hen the latter was in the Jail.
I According to Headley, until hiS sixth VISi t , Hotel Ta] ,'las the only
target for LeT. SaJi d had told him on a number of occasions to
complete the Ta] Hotel reconnaissance. SaJld would also discuss the
plan like attacking t he Ta) Hotel during the conference of software
engmeers by two/three <lltackers. They had plans to send t he
Jttackers through either Nepal or Bangladesh. After March 2008, the
multiple attacks In Mumbal With mul tiple attackers and use of sea
routes were discussed by t he LeT.
DUring the examination of Headley, the culpability of some other LeT
operatives for f urtherance of conspi racy to attack (including 26/ 11)
India has surfaced. They are Adu Qahafa, Abu Alqama, 'ol unammll ,
Abu Anas and Abu Hamza Further eVidence needs to be collected on
t hem,
Headley could r ecognize vOICes of three people who were giving
Instructions to the attackers dur ing Mumbai attacks. These were
SaJld, Abu A1Qama and Abu Qahaf a. Headley could not recognize the
fourth vOice. Headley believes that the person giving instruction to
tre terrorists at Chabad House was SaJld t-laJeed. SaJld Inst ructed
NMIOUr.[ ! II! .. 11GUIari "'GII ( y
l1e terrOrists to kill eve."/body including vlOmen In the (habad Housc.
tbu Alqama was the person giving lostructlons to terrOflSts at TaJ.
/bu Qahafa was also t"lking to the terrorists and It was he who was
saYing to the attackers that the entire Muslim Ummah (Muslim
tlatlon) IS looking upto them and they should not fail them. Sajid later
told Headley that Abu Hamza was also present In the control room.
Before the Mumbal attacks SaJid had shown the photos of the
rlumbal attackers to Headley.
A:ter the attacks Sajid bnefed Headley about the anacks and he
(SaJld) told Headley that two of the crew of 'Kuber' \'/ere killed by him
(Sajld). Headley believes that Sajld was speaking the truth as he
never blows his trumpet unli ke Muzzammll and Abu Hamza. Saj id,
Qahafa , Abu Hamza and one more person were on the other boat
:/hich escorted the maIO boat carrying the anackers. Abu Hamza was
al;o involved in the planning and executlon In the later stages as he
IS conSidered to be an 'India Expert'.
The Karachi setup is baSically Abdurrehman's@ Pasha setup. Pasha
has since long been assoCIated With the operations In India. Headley
beheves that local [ndian boys are Involved in the Karachi setup. The
aim of Karachi Setup IS to launch operations into India by using
militants of Indian origin, Pasha has been in the past also involved in
some attacks in I ndia. In July, 2006, when Headl ey was In USA he
saw the news about Mumbai train attacks on TV. When he came back
he asked Sajid and Pasha about the attacks and Pasha said that he
knew who the boys were that t hey were local Indian boys. The
Karachi setup of Pasha has the complete backing of the 151. Col Shah
,vho was handler of Pasha was actively involved In Karachi selup.
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x. last"k;;r also has a Karachi sf:lup. Though the entire setup vIas
contro :ed by Saj id, It is lOOked after by Abu Yi!Qoob at the
operat onal level. The Karachi setup of LeT aims to launch tx>ys from
Mahar'lshtra and GUJarat into India uSing sea routes. As per
Headle{s assessment thi s is being done by using their fisher men
netvl Of <: and theTr boats. Abu Yaqoob IS the in charge of the Naval
setup c. f Lashkar.
<I. Thoug"l Abdur Rehman is associated with !IIyas Kashmin but he
to hold active Interests in operations In India. For these
Indian operations he 15 In contact with the 151. Col Shah is hiS lSI
handle' . Headley believes that National Defence and Raksha
ShaY/an are the probable targets of Pasha's setup. Dunng his
conversation with Pasha rn Aprrl 2009, Headley believes that the
attac< on NOC seemed imminent.
I. Aoour Pehman is directly in touch with t he top of brass of N-Qalda
rncludirg Illyas Kashlmlri who IS now number 3 in the AI- Qaida
hierarchy lfI Pakistan. Abdur Rehman has met Osama a number of
times. Pasha once told Headley that his set up has been given the
name Jund-ul-fida (Army of Fldayeens) by Osama Bin laden himsel f .
L DaVid Coleman Headl ey@Daood Gll ani remained mostly in lahore
between 2002 and 2009. HIS VISIts to the USA were occasional. He
has no passport issued from Paki stan. As Daood Gllani, he had
travelled to several countries. They rnclude UK, Germany, France,
Maldives, Sri Lanka and so on. He had never visited India as Daood
Gilanl. At the time of his change of name from Daood Gllanl to DaVid
Coleman Headley. he did not change his Social Securrty Number
(SSN) If USA.
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IV After the Lorr.pletlon of his training In LeT, he was told to go to India
and work for the LeT. Durmg tlus peIlOU, apart from Mumbal, some
other Indian cities were discussed as poSSible destinations for him to
have settled down. These (Ities were Kolkata, Deihl, Bangalore, pune,
Nagpur, GUJarat and Hyderabad.
:V. Headley is aware that on and around April 2007, leT's SilJid Majid
and Muzzammtl had paid Rs_8.S lakh to one Nlyamat Shah s/o Jeb
Shah In Landikotal, Shermalkhel In the Khyber Agency In Pakistan to
smuggle arms and explosives to India. Niyamat Shah belongs to the
Silir-viln tribe. Niyamat Shah IS also Involved In drug smuggling to
India.
VI. Abdur Rehman Makl, the maternal uncle's son of Hafiz Saeed is the
foreign affairs In charge of LeT. SoJld MaJid@Wasl had worked as his
personal aSSistant before becoming the handler of Headley. Headley
that SaJld Majid had '/lslted several countnes With multiple
passports which inClude Qatar. UAE. Canada and India etc. One of
the younger brothers of Sa}id to1a]ld was reportedly in Chicago. USA
before the year 2008..
HI. From his first VISit up to the seventh viSit to India. Headley carried a
camera which he had taken from hiS mother-in-law in Pakistan. He
could not recollect the camera model and other particulars. During his
viSits to India In April and June 2008 Headley carried a Sony Ericson
model of mobile/camera phone which was given to him by Major
Iqbal and a GPS device given by SoJld t--1aJld. He used the same
mobile/camera phone for reconnaissance activities in the year 2009
dunng his VISits to India and Denmark. This mobile phone With the
Sim card used by Headley in [rjla ( ' " was sei zed from his
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POS<;CSSlcn t.l the FOJ at the C' rC.tlgc. ilirport. He had returned the
GP5 devl(E" to SaJid Majid In Aqt:lSt-'2008. IIead\ey recollected that
the GPS he used was a product (,i Garmm Company.
DUring his stay In Pakistan, Head:ey hed used two mobile phones. He
used to get all the calls (rom the LeT operatives on these two mobile
phOnes. Headley understands thet these telephones have been seized
In Pakistan on the request of the USA {luthorities.
In 2006, Headley had received money from Dr. Rana while In India,
from a bank located near the Trident Hotel, Mumbai. He does not
re<ollect the name of the bank.
Headley had explored the sea-route option duri ng hiS VISit to India In
April 2008. Prior to this visit in March 2008, Headley had met a
frogman In the LeT camp In Muzaffarabad. The frogman was
Introduced to Headley as Abdur Rehman. Headley believes that the
frcgman IS from the Paki stan nav,!.
Apart from tile places known to CJs, Headley had conducted detailed
vldeograpy of some other places for future attacks. They the
reSidence of the Vice President of Indla.L.lndia Gate, PaharaganJ in
Delhi and the CBI office and the EL AI office In Mumbal.
Headley identified some of the prominent locations on the Google
earth map Involving our case. They Include the house of Hafiz Saeed,
Abdur Rehman Hashim, his own house and a couple of LeT safe
houses In Pakistan.
Headley disclosed his personal knowledge of some of the prominent
attacks In India by LeT. He stated that HaJi Ashraf's nephew
participated In the Akshardham -emple attack In 2002:... One of the
attackers whom Headley IdentlfieJ, had participated In the attack on
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the FoI'I , Sl"ri :'lanmohan Singh's ra lly In SlI na9'lr In 200 i .To"lI'> ultilcker
':las IralnEd by Abur Rehman Ka'!ihi'm. He did not knoV! tho:! name but
identified ttl'.:! nephew 01 Abu Qah.2lfa as being among [he len
au:ad<ers In the 26/ t I terror stnke. All these attackers lI:ere kil led on
the spot Abu who parti cipated In the Bangalore attilck ul
2005. IS ifl Sajid's group. Hl'ildley had him a number of tunes in
t V, Headley the !ndl,)n trained with him during 2003 in Pakistan
as AzmGI. Almal, according to Headley, was arrested In India.
belielles !hJt Armalls from Mahilrashtra.
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Rehman Hashim among others.
[rnrTledla!e action wil l be taken on the actionable points. The FBI WIll
mfcIlTlally proVi de some documents whICh 'IIdl be crucIal fOf further ing
the In ve5t.gation.
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Statement of accused David Headley @
Daood Gilani i n the custody of the us
authorities) as recorded on 3"1, 4
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g ift of June, 2010 in connect i on with case
No.04/09-NIA/OLI at Chicago
1. Per sonal details
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Name
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parent age)
Date of
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Nati onality
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Permanent
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David
Ca leman
Headl ey
@ Daood
Gila ni
30.06.1960
United
States
AmErican,
Pakistani
origm
lashker- E-
Toiba
Syed Saleem Gil an i
563, Rosa lie Street
Phil adelphia, 19120 USA
6,Canal Bank Road, Ferozpur
Road, La hore, Pakistan
t-1uslim
Pony hair , Tall wel l buil t with
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10. Places

I ndia - Murubai, Delhi , Pune, 1
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Goa, Pushkar (Aj mer)
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Pakistan - Karachi,
Muzaf farabad, Lahore, Ouba i,
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Denmar k, Germany, Ut<,
Sweden
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11. Prese nt

Unemployed
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occupatiQn
12. Name in

David Coteman Headte,/
passport
13. Vi ew about

Ji had IJSa\afi/Takfiri

religi on
14. Education

Graduate
IS. Computer

Yes
li t eracy
16. Languages

English, Urdu, Arabic, Hindi ,

known
PU!1jgpL-
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9819829221
17. Phone 98209108 14 Used 11 India
numbers
39920280935
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Family / Relationships
1. Name, allZls David Coleman Headley
@Daood GrlMi
2. Fat her 's name Syed Saleem Gilani
3. profession Pakistani Civil serva nt
4. Mot her's name Ser r il l Headley
5. Brothers Hamza, Daniel
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Sisters Sherzada
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B. Sonfdaughter
Passport
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Shazla Gilani
Faiza Outalha
Haider
Osama
Sumya (0)
Hafs. 0)
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THE IMPORTANT PEoplE
(1) Sajid Maj i d : Saj id was born In 1976. His father's name is
Abdul I'-lajeed and he used t o work in Saudi Arabia. Sajid's
father had migrated fr om Indlan Punj ab during 1947
parti ti on. Sajld has at least two brothers . During one of
my early meeti ngs with Saj id, he told me that one of hi s
brothers was working In Chi cago, t hough he never told me
the details and also I never Inqui red about him as much.
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him for t he fi rst t i me In front of Lahore High COurt
when we had gone to set tl e some cases of Hafiz Saeed.
Saji d had been introduced to me by Ra mzan o,lLe_T by hl5
origi nal name.
Saj id was one of t he earliest membl!rs of LeT. He did his
Daura e khas when he was 18 years old. Sajld was
earlier head' of Lahor e unit of LeT. Arter that he became
Secretary to Abdurrahman Maki and From t hen started
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looking after over seas affai rs and c:adres of Lashkar Salid
lives near Airport In lahore. The road which goes to air port
from the crossing of Garri son golf dub .a nd then turns left
and whi le gOing straight from there, on that road his
house was 400 mts ahead on the left. At the ti me of my
first meeti ng, Sal ld was not a part of the I ndian set up of
LeT.
(A setup is actualJy a unic which IS composed of lOp LeT
men whose brothers or familv members have died fighting
i n Kashmir. The members of tile setUQ then have tlllr uwn
men fori under them. A setup is a compact U()lt which is
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Then in 2004 again Int roduced me to Sajld at tl
safe house in MuzaffarabiUj .'saj id got married around
t hree years ago. I also attended t he marriage. Saj id's
father in law retired as a Chapl in (Mauv' i) from Pak navy.
Hi,. father In law stays in Karachi. SDJid hilS a son and
when I was arrested in Oct his wife was expecting
again. The words 'polar bear cub' used in my emalls wit h
Sa)id (rarelaymao@hotmai l,corn ) are a refNence to Sajl d' s
son. In Lahore Sajld lived in an area wher e a boy of Briti,?h
nationality, who had done DatJriJ-e Aam8 with me, also
lived, This British boy, whose name I don't used
to tell me about Saj /d.
Wast and Ibrahim were othe r _Sajid. Once Sajid's
brother-i n law (Behnoi) told me t hat Sajid had (! number
o-f passports in dif ferent names:. One passport was In the
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Sajid was in Karachi and as pe.r my knowledge he
graduat ed from a colle.ge in KarachI. He has been t o Saudi
a number of t imes as his father was wOrking t here.
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Saj id is a ver y secretive person. is very meticulous and I
hi;!s a good eye for details, He has ne'Jer been to any I
operational area. As per Saji d, wa;; once a rrested in I
Dubal and he coul d get out only beCal,J$e of hi s LeT
connections. He therefore avoi ded travel ling to Dubai.
He has a good understanding of computers and t he eyber
world. He is extremel y careful in handlir"l g the emai l IDs.
He often uses 1'1 sate lli t e phone while in MuzafFarabad.
Saj id !'l as a strong an.;:j distInct Influe.nce of Saudi
Arab on him. He had undergone a pl astic
However t here is not much chonge in his face the
surgery. I have identified the photograph sho ...... n by you.
r In a nd a round January 200S, r started reporting to Sajrd
t-l ajid. The photograph which I had i dent ifi ed as Saj id's
was his pict ure before t he surgery. Sajid is ext remely
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(2) Abdur Rehman Hashim@Pasha@ Abdurrehman 15 a
maj or of 6
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Balaeh of Pakistan He was born
is 1968. His father's name is: Major Abdul Ghani who was
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.h Saloeh. Pasha was a hardcore j ihadi. In 2002,
his army uni t was stationed on the Pakistan side of Tara
Bora mountai ns . Abdu r Rehman was asked by his
commander t o fight against Tal iban which he refus!W. He
was demoted to t he r ank of Captai n as <! punishment but
again gat the rank of a Major . He Quit army In 2002, and
started working for ilhadi organiza t ions, He al ong with _
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t:1aj or Haraan and Capt ain Khurr am used to t rain cadres of
LeT. _
I first met Pasha at the Qadisiya Mosque in Lahore.
Qadisiya is a LeT Mosque and every Friday Hafiz Saeed
reads Kfwtba there. Abdur Rehm.an went to Govt . College
LenOrE! and after coUege he gr aduatt"d from Paki stan
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Military Academy. I n my fi rst meeting with Abdur Rehmen,
[ found him t o be dedicat-ed towards Jihad , He approved of
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sUIcide bombing of Bar l i mam, I have Ident ifi ed his
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arrested on or 5
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of October, 2009 by Pak authori t ies.
(3) Haroon brothers: Major Haroon@Haroon-ul -Isiam 15 also
an ex-army officer f rom 10 Punj ab of Pakistan army. Cl!pt .
Khurram was hls younger br,other. I mel Khurram and

Hareon t hrough Abdur Rehman. Khurram and Hamon were
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working with LeT but they distanced themselves from leT
in late 2003. . Khurram
and Pasha fought alongside Taliban i n Afghanistan.
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fighting with Canadian forces. Haroon and Khur ram
were very radical in their views. Hareon had started
'1 / worki ng for IIIyas Kashmi r; in 2006.
(4) Maj or Sameer Ali : An lSI Offi cer. I had met him a couple
of times tn Lahore. We were In touch through tel ephone
.coand _email s.._
( S ) Major Iqbal: An l SI officer. Appeared to me t o be u
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introduced me to hi s boss
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Col HamZd was a man in his early for ties . He is baby faced
and also overweight by the army standard. He must be
five feet six inches in height. He 3Ppeareo to be f r om
Punj ab. Thi s I cou ld guess from the accent tn which he
talked to me. They li stened to my entire plan to attack
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r"!1 eet ing. This meeting lasted for m o r ~ than
two hOurS. The Lt. Col assured me of the fi nanci al help and
directed me t o foll ow the directionS of Malor Iqbal from
t l m ~ to t ime. He also directed me (0 Infor m about all f11 Y
activi ti es to Major Iqbal. That was (he first and last
meeting wit h Lt. Col Hamza. Major Iqbal remained my
handler . I informed all events rel ated to my act ivi t ies to
I'-lajor Iqbal .
{ 6} Hafiz Saeed: He is the Chief (Ameer ) of LeT. He Is very
close to 151. All t he activities of Lei a re re.oorted to hi m. 1
think he is diplomatIC and never talks directly. I have
shown you his house in Google eart h map. He is INeli
protected. He was aware of my activities and encouraged
me. WIthout his approval 26/ 11 could not have happened.
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,...... (J) Zaki ur Rehman Lakhv.: He is the chi ef mili tary
commander of LeT. 1 underst and that he is the main
architect of 26/1 1.

{B) Abu Qahafa: He is direct ly involved in the Mumbai attack.
I Found him to be tech savvy. Abu Qahafa ha d done the
83it -ul' Rizwan t raini ng with me. He is marri ed t o Abu
S<)eed's sister . He/wor ked with Sajid Majid and tr ained the
att ackers af Mumbai. Abu Qahafa was cr it icized by his
trai ners dur ing the traini ng. One of the
nephews of Abu Qahaf<fl had participated in the Mumbai
attack.
(9) Muzzammil: Muzzammi l was born in 1976 and is over 6ft
4inches tall. He sports a tong beard and is very we ll built.
Hi s famil y li ves in the outskirts of Gujranwala. Muzzammi l
is ver y close t o Zaki and is his most trustworthy
compani on . Muzzammi l never contradi cts Zaki, He
according to me is t he biggest Chi'lmcha (brownnoser) of
Zi'l ki. He was In\lolved in t he killi ng of in
Chhi t isi ngllpura village of Kashmi r, The kil ling of loca l

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committee member in Kashmir. Abu Duj ana Is Sft 81n . I

met Abu Duj ana i n t he model town office of Abu
Duj ana was a senior commander of LeT. Two of Abu
Dujana's brot hers were killed in Kashmir, His younger
brot her waS kil led before 2.001 but his older br ot her was
kill ed in September 2003, I went to Abu Dujana's house a
few times. He is married with two kids. He IS in his earl y
forties and has dark brown hair . He is ori ginally from
Bahawalpur .
(12) Abu U;!T oper<'Jtive. Had operated In Indi a. He
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('13) Abd\JI Aziz He is also known as Abu Rehan. He had

visi ted India a number of ti mes. He Is beli eved to be t he

man behInd the Bangalore attack in India in 2005. Abdul
A!:..iz was not part of the Mumbai at tack group. Abu Hamza
who par t ici pated in liSe Banqalore attack had worked
under him. Aft er t he Bangalore att ack, I believe they got a
from Zakl. He frequEntly vi sits Saudi Arabia.
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(1S) Abu Ai man: Abu Aiman had done the Oaur.J-e-Khasa
wi th Saji d MaJi d. Abu Alman's father Is a banker. Abu
Al man's step mother Is [he widow of Abu Fatull aha who
died fight i ng in Kashmir. Uamm-e-Hammad @ Ume Haze,
the mothe:r of Abu Alman , .. " rites songs for the LeT. She IS
also the in-charge of aU women' s activities of LeT. Abu
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Aiman, Abu Usman had participated with MUZ2ammii In the
massac.re t hat took place before President Clinton' s visit to
India. Abu Usman died while fighting in rndla. He imparts
t raining in LeT.
(19 ) NaS3r Javed: The traIning Chief of LeT. 50 ye<:l rs ol d.
Infl uent ia l and cl ose to ZakL
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js the overall t rai ning in charge of LeT. Sayeed i s tal l about
5'11 ", around 42 yea rs ol d; and i s sli ght ly overweight. He
has done his Master's in Engineering from Faisal abad. He
once rOre his degree before Zakj in order ro show his
commitment tOW<lrds ji had, I thi nk it was a gl mmick as
everybody knew t hat one could get a dupl icate degree. I
once travelled wit h Sayeed from Muzaffarabad to Lahore in
Dec 2004.
2, ORGANI SATIONSI INSTITUTI ONS
( 1) LeT: The chief patran of the out fit IS Hafi z Saeed.
Abdur Rehman Maki , Zaki-ur- Rehman L;;Ikhvl ar e the
import ant members of t his outfit . It i s based on the Salafi
fait h of Islam. The objective of t he outfi t is to establish
(Ru le of God). I feel that LeT is mor e

inclined for j ihad in Kashmir. At present some ideological
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battte amongst the t op brass 15 going on relati ng to jihad
in Afghani st an. In 2008 I felt that Let i s not
s. in. cere and committed to t he planned actions. India wi ll
remain a ta r get for LeT .

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1. I was born In t he year 1960 in t he Unit ed States of
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America. My father Syed Gilani was a Pakist ani
nati onal and mother Ms. Serr il Headley was a USA
nati onal. I have one sister by the name Stl erzad, who
was born in Pakistan in 1963. She is a doct or by
pr ofession. She is mar ri ed and settl ed i n f-1aryland,
Bal t imore, USA. After my bi rth, t he famHy r elocated
to Pakist an wher e I was r aised, ! went to a milit ary
school located in Hasan Abdal, Attock Di stri ct, Punjab,
Pakist " n known as Cadet College Hassan AbdaJ. My
father , after di vorCing my mother remar ried in
Pakistan to one Sayeda Begum.
2, rn 1977 I was re-Iocated to the Un ited States to live
With my mother, who had divorced my father in 1966.
. My mother gr ew up in Bryn Mawr . She was the Owner
of a pub by t he name Khyber Pass pub/ restaurant at
56 S.Sccond St . In Philadelphia . In USA I studied
accounting. at a community coll ege in Philadelphia
region. V'lith my mother, I operated a vide. o store,
Fhks video, i n Cent er City, New York. t-Iy mother
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3. [ have two half-brothers named Hamza GHani and
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Daanya l Gil am. Daanyal and Hamza were born i n
1973 and 1976 respective ly. Both of the m are in the
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t he Informat i on Officer in the Pr ime Minist er Offke or


Pakistan.' My father had worked In the Paki stan
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on deputati on t o Voice of Amer ica .

4. We are or iginally fr om the Di nanagar , Ajanala,
Gastart ide, Punj ab. Hy father had remained In UP for
some t i me before part ition. He had done
schooling from the lsl amia School in EttaNoh. Aft er
his school education .. he had st udied In the Govt .
College l ahore .
5. I got married t o Shazla GHani In Pakistan ir1 the year
1999. Shazla i s t he daught er of Javed Ahmed. I do
not want t o di scuss the detai ls on my in laws' fami ly
as t hey have not hi ng to de with my act ivit i es . I"l y wife
and fo ur cr.i\ dren a re presently based In Chici;lgO,


USA. I do not w"nt to discuss anything pertaining to
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relating t o my immediate family members. I
however, .a ssur e you t hat duri ng my questioning for
cl arifications and understandings of t he context of t he
conspiracy, whenever required, I 'IIoul d make
relevant mention of them.
6. JOi ni ng of lashkar-E-Toi ba (LeT) in Pakistan:
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mosque to. offer prayers. Once I saw a poster/banr,er
of LeT in Lahore request ing ror funds t o fi ght j ihad in
india. I was touched by the poster . The poster had
the number of the leT's office based 10
r'vlodel Town, Lahore. I called up t he number given in
the poster. Two persons (one of them i s Abld, a
member of LeT who worked in the Model Town office
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Lahore and coll ected Rs. 50, 000 from me in cash.
They requested me to part iCipate in a t.?cture In the
same evening t hat would be by the LeT
chief, Hafiz saeed .n t he house of OJ L::i hore based
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Is In his ear ly sIxti es Is Shaikh Nayeem. Bot h the
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recent bombing of the Ahmediya mosque
In 2010 happened very close to Shaikh Nadim's
house. The Shaikh brothers are involved in the
d othing business i n l ahore . The lecture of Hafiz

Saeed on t he relevance of jihad and his menUon of
Hadfth really Influenced me. Hafiz Saeed quot ed a
Hadith which said that ' a moment spent In Jihad gives
you much more saYlaab(reward) than t he mill ions of
namaz offered in Kaaba that too on t he night of
lal/at ur Qadr'(a pious night of Ra madan).
7. I met Hafiz Saeed for t he first time during this
meeting. Abid toox me to Hafiz Saeed and introduced
me to him. I was lr"1fluencEd by the address of Hafiz
Saeed. When I ret urned home I checked the ver aci t y
of thls from hadith. I found out that Lt was a Bukharj
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Buk.har i ). I was attracted towards Ji had.
8. After two weeks from this meet ing I again met Hafiz.
Saeed in Muridke In One of the "I stamas' of LeT.
OlJring t his meeting, Abdur Rehman Makki was also
present. Abdur Rehman Makkl also deli vered a lect ur e
in th is {stama. Duri ng t his br ief meet ing Han.: Saeed
told me to be present till the completi on of the
{stama . Abdur Rehman Nakkl IS the son of HClfiz
Saeed's maternal uncl e. Hafiz Saeed's wife's younger
sister is marri ed to Abdur Rehmaf1 l""1 akki.
9. Abid, the person who took me to t his meeting no
longer wor ks for LeT. One Ramzan had taken Over
the charge of the t-1 odel Town, lahore LeT camp from
Abid. During this phase I used to regularly go and
offer prayer at t he Qadislya mOSQue In Lahor e.
Qadisiya mosque is t he Mosque of the LeT, guarded
by the ar med LeT cadres. Hafiz Saeed and Abdur
Rehman Makki usually come and offer t heir Friday

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(age: 35/40, Height 5'8", sl im with a long be.ard) was
a ve(eran who had fought i n Kashmir. He and
Muzzammil were together in Kashmir, He rema ined
t here from the year 1998 to 2001. Abu Duj ana told
me that once he was shot by Vil lage O-efence
Committee ( VOC) members i n Doda dist r ict of J&K.
He had full praise for t he courage of t he VDC
members. I went to A-bu Doj ana's house a few t imes.
Abu Dujana stays In t he compound of the Muri dke
Mosque with hrs mother, wife, wi dow of hi s brother,
one youngt'!r brother and his children.
11 . [ n Nov 2000. I returned to USA. Dur ing t hese years
I never used to stay i n Pakistan for more t han a
month. My business was In New York which was
being looked after by my cousin Farid in my absence.
By this time my store was not dOing very well.
12. On and il round 2001. I fi r mly decided to j oin LeT
and Fi ght for the cause of Jihad. I met Ha fiz: Saeed
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13. I wanted to ... Il)Y vi deo store in USA and join
t he activiti es of LeT. I wanted t o sell it. Subsequentl y
I decided to rent it out. [ gave it on rent to an Italian
person. I wanted to contribute t he money that 1 used
to get from the store fo( the cause of Jihild. I
discussed t his mO!! tter wit h Hafiz Saeed an and around
July 2001, which he very polltely decl ined, He
suggest ed' me to remain away from such earnings
which are against t he basics of thought.
14, During my stay in Pakistan we used to debate on
the jihad and other aspects of fighti ng the so ca lled
" crusader i orce" (the non-IslamLc forces fighting
against the: jihadis). J even used to discuss Sol/afi
thought with 3 number of schol ars. R(1mzan and Abu
Duj ana mot ivated me to j oi n t he for my
understanding of j ihad and LeT.
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mother of Hafiz S.;3eed expir ed, $0 aU of us went from
the tra ining camp to Saeed's place and expressed our
condolence.
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and around August 2002, I joined the
trai ni ng program Da'Jra- e-Amma in
Muzaffarabad. One Abu Hanzai a was our course
During t his tra ining I met Abu Aama r
also , Abu Aamar was a respect ed commander of LeT
who had fought in Kashmir for a long time. He was
handicapped In his left hand as a resl.Jlt of a gunshot
injUry. 1 do not recol lect of meeting him after my
training . During this t rai ning there was a from
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Daura, Hafi z Saeed also visi ted the t raini ng camp and _
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17. In the year 2002, I met Muzzammi l Butt, a Kashmir!
In f'.l l lzaffa rabad. Abu Duj ana Introduced me to
Mul:ammlL Abu Du)ana had st.;lyed
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attacks on I ndian security rorces when he was In
Kashmir. [ recollect t hat once Muzzammil had told me
how he had gone and kIlled civi li ans In a village In
South Kashmir before the Visit of the then US
President, Bill Cl inton to I ndia. After coming to
Muzaffarabad, he was initially given the charge of the
I ndi a operat i ons .
lB. On and around the early summer of 2002, I was
Int roduced t o Abdur Rehman Hashim @ Pasha by Abu
Duj ana at t he Qadisiya Mosque in Lahore. In my first
mee:tlng wit h Abdur Rehman, I found hi m to be
dedfcated towar ds jihad. Dur i ng my stay in Paki,Sta n,
I used to regul arly go to Abdur Rehman Hashim's
house. 1 can ident ify his house in Lahore.
19. Abdur Rehman Hashim is very close to me. Abdur
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who pr epared t he operatives for combat duti es and
suicidal attacks. I recollect when 1 was undergoing
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2004, the Indian PM' s rally waS attacked in Srinagar
Ci ty by It'': T. This attack was carried out by one of the
trainees of Abdur Rehman.
20. In LeT, befor e joining the t raining course viz., the
one needs to get hIs name
recommended by a senior functionary of LeT. I got
myself recommended from one Abu Shoaib of Lah ore.
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on the Kaluchak attack in Jammu by the LeT
on 14 1'-lay, 2002. After this incident he started s lowly
distMCi ng himself from the LeT. HowelJer, he gave
me t he recommendat ion. I had gone [0 his nouse in
lahore t o obtain t he recommendation le tter. Abu
Shoaib In t he coming days Formed a small 9rouP
known as "CaraViln -e-lsldm" to fight In Afghanistan.
2!.. On and .around April 2003, I joined the DauriJ-e-
Khasa in MuzaHarabad. This was a (hree months
:::ourse. Furqan and Sanaull ah were my tra iners for
this Vavra, though Sayeed was the overall i n- charge
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22. Abu Sayeed wor ks under Nassar Javed who is the
overal l training in charge of LeT.
23. This trai ning was tough. I had so me probl ems with
one Abu Furka n. So I left the trai ni ng In between a nd
came back to Lahore . 1 shared my probl ems with
Zakl -ur - Rehman Lakhvi. After four days I decided to
Joi n t he t rai ning again, r r esumed t he t raini ng and
completed It on and around July 2003.
2.4. After the complet ton of traini ng r met Zaki and
expressed my desir e to flight in Kashmi r. However
Zaki decl ined my request and ment ioned that I WOlJ ld
not f it t he age cri teria to fi ght i n Kashmir. He handed
over me to Yaqoob, one of the cl ose assocfates of
Zaki. Yaqoob is wit h Zaki since 1984. Yaqoob resides
in t he " Bait-ul -Muj ahlddfn' in MU2affarabad.
25. On and around Aug ust 2003, I j oined the three
week Daura-e-ribat in t he Manshera valley. The basic
obj ective of : hi s traini ng was to make Ucontact". Ribac
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handler qUite frequent ly. Daura -e - ribat Is mostly for
the people who have: to recrUft or be in constant
cont act vJ lth other operat ives, Abu Usman was one of
t he pri ncipal trainers during t his course. Abu Usman
is t he younger brother of Nasar Javed. who i s the
over all In charge of trai ning. For this training, a room
was ta ken on rent by t he LeT. There were 17(18
cadres of LeT with me dur ing this training. One
Abdullah and Sonaullah were also t he trainers in thIS
cour se. One Abu Azmal (28), who I believe is (r om
Maharashtra ( I ndia) was doing the training ''''Ilth mi;.
Subsequent ly once Muzzammil had t old me that
Azma l was arrested In India sometime in 2006/07.
Thi s arrest was broadcast on the TV also. 1 had met
Azma l dunng t he .... rsatma" of LeT in October 2003
also.
26. On and around September 2003, I attended the
"lsatma" of LeT. r was di r ected t o attend another
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combat and cl ose Quarter battles. Bait - u/- Rizwan

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He ;s fat but his reflexes are quite sha rp. During thi s
trai ning I came across a trai ner who was an NCO in

the Pakistan ar my and an expert in un -a rmed

combat. 1 consi der hi m as an excellent t rainer. r do

not recollect his name. Abu Qal'lafa had done t his

t rai ni ng wit h me.
27. On and ar ound July 2004, a t\vO week training
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Daura. speeches were gi ven by Hafiz Saeed,
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Invited. I was al so Invi ted, Dur ing t he lunch there was
discussion about how to effecti vely deal with banning
of LeT by the Pakistan gover nment . Zakl disapproved .
Of the Idea of fight ing a legal battl e on this issue as
he was apprehenSive of the eVIdence agail1st LeTI
being produced by the Indian authorit ies.
2B. Post Training Activities i n Pakistan : On and
around August 2004, I met Zaki and requested him
to change my ha ndler as I was not comfortable with
Y ~ Q O O b . Za ki then handed me over to Muz:zammil,
Abdur Rehamn was also ..... or king in Muzz2Immi rs set
up. In his set up, I came across the following
operatives li ke Sajid Majid, Abu Anas Abdul Aziz and
the following :
29. Abu Sarla : He was killed in the earthquake in
October 2005.
30. Mohsin: He was t he accountant of the group. He
got killed i n (he earthquake in Oct , 2005.
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cons:ldered to go to Ind ia , He continues to be
in Sajid Majid's group.
32. Duri ng this period I st arted my dairy farmi ng
bU5lneS5. I purchased sorne land also. However r
could nor do '.'Jell i n my business.
33. On and around :W05, I started reporting to

Sajid Majid. t his I st;;Hted working under Sajid
!-laj id. Though I"'luzzammfl was m y handler but it was
Saji d who to interact with me frequenUy.
34. Preparation for visit to India: Because after t he
trai ning I was nat sent t o Kashmir, ( became
skeptical about my future. Increasingly (-deve loped a
feeHng t hat I am not being used properly. I
mentioned t hese Issues to Zaki, Muzzammi l, Sajid
etc. But I was told to wa it. Subseque ntly it was
decided t hat I would go to India [0 carry Dut the
activitles of t he LeT. However at this poin[, it was not
clear to which place in India r '.'l'ould go , During
dl.5.CU5Sior.s In LeT, several Indian cit ies werE'
discussed 'NI'1ere they proposed w ser1 d me, Some of
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Mumbai, Nagpur, . a.Qqalore, Pune, Hyderabad,
etc. The change of name, establi shment of
!mmigratlon office i n I ndia on behalf of Tahawwu r
Hussai n Rana, use of Amer ican passport to conceal
my identity and so on were my ideas. The l eT
appreciated these Ideas.
35. On and around Apr i l 200S, LeT carri ed oue the
attack on the Muzaffarabad and Sr inagar bus
sr/ ices. I mmediately after that Sajid al ong wIth
Abdur Reh man left for I ndi a under t he pr et ext of
watching the IndoPak cricket match. Sajid, of course
di d not reveal anyt hing about this visit [0 me.
However Abdur Rehman had

given a detailed
narration of t his visit to fndla i n Apri l 2005. They
went from t he Wagha border. They spent some t ime
In Delhi. Abdur Reh man had gone t o the NDe in Delhi
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possibly gone t he Dehre l,.ldun. On t heir way
baCk, Abdur Rehman recollected th at Saj i d was
extremely nervous at Wagha gst e.
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On and around September 2005, I went to USA. I
contacted attorney Donal d Drumpf for change of my
name. When! had left Pakistan, I had givE!:n Farid's
number to Sajid Majid. SaJid had contact ed me
dUring my t r ip to USA.
37. I returned to Pakist an after the eart hquake. I was
told that Abu SarJa and Mohsin had lost thei r lives in
the. earthquake. The miraculous escape of Abu Anas'
two year ol d son was also discussed with Saj id. I met
Zaki's soo WasJ i n Muzaffarabad during t his period.
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Wasi in MuzaHarabad he was witn another boy
named Amanullah. Amanull ah was ki ll ed in an action
near Athmuqam, on the Line of Actual Control (LOC).
It was after Zakl' s son that Sajid had t aken as his
ali as.
38. I also met Abdul Qadir, an ol d LeT commander and
one of the founders of LeT. Abdul Qadir was an ex
SSG arid he retired as a havaldar. Qadi r was a
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went to Afghanist an and fought along Tali ban. He
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, Taliban of Pakistan (TIP) and t hen r ~ l e a s e d after
\ s.ometlme. Zakl t old me not to contact Qadi r.
39. I visited Muzaffarabad. Saj id received me on a
motor bi ke and took me to the safe house near the

LeT hospiti)1 in Muzaftarabed, I met Abu Qahafa. and
Muzzammll In thi S house. ( had seen Abu Qahafa
earlier . Abu Qahafa had done t he Sai t ul -Rl z.wan
trai ning wit h me. He is married to Abu 'Saeed's sister.
He, in t he days to come, would work Wit h SaJid Maj id
.1nd tra in the: at tackers of Mumbai for the 26/11
attack. One of tne nephews of Abu Qahafa had
parti cipated in the Mumbai attack.
40. Between October 200S and December 2005, 1 had
gone t o Muzaffarabad on th ree occasions. I met Abu
Qahi:l fa, Muzzammll, Sajld Majid and Abu Anas during
thiS period. Or'l and around end of December, J along
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camp i n Athmuqam. I was not t old about t his t rip by
the LeT. Muzzammil visited several Pakistan army
Instal1st ions during our vi sit. I suspect they were
prepari ng tor an attack, possibly a .train attack in
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Jndi.;;" The safe house In Muzaffarabad used to be
called by Saji d as 'lee box", Muzzammil and
Qahafa showed me a number of CDs of atrocities on
I ndian Musli ms. Ba bu Baj r <l ngi's videos of Guj arat
nots were also shown. During t hi s meetlng I was also
shown a map of Cyberabad. I believe t hat LeT has
: already conducted t he survei llance or
refinery) and it is it potential t arget. I recollect th(!re
was a discussion on Prof. Purl ' s assassi nat ion in
by the LeT. Abu Hamza executed this
act i on. Abdul Aziz had superVised this operatIon.
41. [ n the year 2005, I did not meet Abdur Rehman @
Pasha much as he was fight ing alongside Tali ban in
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also fight ing. I agai n met "\bdur Rehman @ Pasha in
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Hashim: On and around January 2006, I proposed to
Abdur Rehman Hashim to t ake him to the Khyber
flgency to introduce him t o some of myoid contacts
of drvgdealing days for assistance to smuggl e
weapons to I ndia, He readily agreed to go with me.
43. In the mid -eighties, I used to be in regular conta ct
wit h one Jeb Shah, fat her of Nlyhmat Shah of Khyber
agency. t had kept .t hat contact alive. Gradually [
became d ose [Q hi s son Niyhmat Shah (60years ol d).
During my stay in Pakistan [ was in t ouch with
Ni yhmat Shah. They belong to the Sh/Q',yaa rribe .
They are locat ed at Shek mal khel 10 Km away Fro m
Landi Kotal. I also know Ayvb Ar lfdi aootner person
from the same region. ! used to often drop his name
to RahuJ Bhatt to make him aware about the cont acts
th" t I have i n t he FATA areas.
44 We we nt to Peshawar from l ahore oy bus which
took us almost seven hours. From Pesha war, Khyber
Pass IS a t wo hour journey. We took a t Cl )C i and
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of Peshawar ilt t he Bagh- e- khyber we were stopped
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taken to the Khar Police Stat ion. Before proceedIng to
the Pol ice Stati on I showed them my Pakistani Id
card. Maj or Abdur Rehman also snowed his ex-army
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telephones from us. We were kept in the Poli ce II
Station with some other' persons. We coul d manage
to call up Niyhmat Shah and t old hi m the problem.
45. The next day VI e wer e t aken to t he L<mdl kotal
prison. Fr om there we wer e taken to a location of
Khyber Rifle. We met one t:1ajor Al i@Sheen of l SI In
this location. He separately ta lked to bot h of us. I
narrated hi m my entire story. r told him about my
association wit h Lashkar -e -Toiba and my ongoIng
plans t o go to IndIa. He tol d me that earl ier some
years ago while he was post ed in Lahore, he used to
send people to I ndia to collect informat ion and
i nt elli gence on (he Indian army and cities. He
remembered hiS wor k and contacts that carri ed out
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some work in the Indian city of Pune. He addressed
Abdur Rehman as "Sir" as Abdur Rehman was senior
to him in t he course. He t old me t hat some people
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useful .so me in my mfssion.
46. The next day, Niyh mat Shah came with anot her
person t o meet us. He knew Major Ali. So we wer e let
off .
47. We went to Niyhmat place and discussed the
possibility of sending weapons to I ndia. He agreed t o
do 50. He sai d t hOit they smug.9led wl":a pons to Indiel
through Jammu, Gujar at, etc., along with

drugs .
48. upon my return, I mentioned t his visit to Saj id.
However he d id not seem haPD'Y about th is tr ip.
49. On a nd a round 2007, I learnt th at, Sajid hOld gone
to meet Niymat Shah along with Muzzamml1. He did
not tell me t his. Abdur Re:hman did. Reportedl y Si3 jid
had paid appr oxi mately
behalf of
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50. Introduct io n with Major I qba l in La hor e: We
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days of my arr iva l in lahore, I got a call from Major
Iqbal, He called me up on by motJilink mobile number.
This number Is with me since 200 1 and it is in t he
name of my brother-i n-l aw Rizwan, 36H, Gulberg
Col ony, Lahore. I had never ta lked to Major Iqbal
before. He gave the reference of Major Ali t o me. He
told me to come and meet him In C'I nearby location
between the Lahore Airport and the defence society. I
took my Honda City ca r and left to meet Major I qbal.
He guided me to t he location over mobile phone. I
used my mobilink compa ny cell phone for this
purpose. As soon as I reached the location, he sent a
person to pick me up and take me to the locat ion
~ where he was stationed. J met l'"1aj or Iqbal. Maj or
I Iqbal introduced me to his boss known as Lt. Col
Hamza. Lt . Col Hamza was a man In h i ~ early forti es.
He is baby facea .and also overweight by the ar my
standard. He must be fi ..... e feet si x inches in height.
He appeared to b(! From Punjab. Thi S { could guess
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more than two hours. The Lt. Col assured me of the
financial help and directed me to foIIO\'1 t he direction
of Maj or I qbal from time to time. He also direCted me
t.o inform about til l my activi t fes to Major Iqbal . That
was the first and last meet i ng wit h Lt, Col Hamza.
This was t he only t ime [ met him because after that
he was transfe rred out of Lahore. Major I qb2li
remained my ha ndler . In the times t o come, I wou ld
inform all events related to my activit ies to Major
Iqbal . To my knowl edge, Abdur Rehman was also
contacted by the [Sf handlers, A?dur Rehman never
li ked the lSI handl<"'rs. We would often d iSCUSS the l SI
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handlers in our general discussi ons. t had met lSI
Major Sameer Ali on coupl e of oc.casior1S. I was In
contact with him through telephone and emalls. On
and arou nd 2008 once 1 met one of the lSI handlers
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Muzzammi l and Saj id Maj i d.
51. Vi sit t o USA for change of name: During the first
week of Febr uary 2006 I "' islted USA. like in t he pas(,
! landed in the JFK international airport in New York.
I went and met my cousin Farid who was i n USA. I
conFirmed the progress in my business . Then [ '.'l ent
and pursued my name change Issues. It did not take
much ti me. My lawyer had alr eady li ned up t he
matter, I ( ould compl ete my work In a couple ot
days, 1 did not have a Pakistani passport. The USA
passport is my ordy passport. t had never received
. any passport issued by my Paki stani handl ers, i was
staYing in Pakistan on the Pakistani v isa issued from
USA by Pakist an Embassy.
52. While chunging my passpon, I did not change my
Social Securi ty Number ( SSN) of USA. Though ! was
In telephonic contoct with Dr, Rana, I did not go to
Chi cago to meet him dunng t his t ime.
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enj oyed this t r aini ng. The traini ng given by this NCO
under the guidance of Maj or Iqbal was much more
scientific and e f f ~ c t j v e than the tra ini ngs I did in the
, LeT camps. 1'<l ajOr Iqbal would give me readi ng
I mat er ials i nCluding some contain ing Informat ion
about I ndia, prepa red i n English wi th stamps on each
page as "secret"'. r woul d read t hese materials with
gr eat l nterest and t ry and Fol low them. Often, r wou ld
discuSS the issues of Dr. Rana with Major Iqbal. Major
Iqbal w ould t hen aSSur e me hel p for Dr . Rana to visi t
Pakistan. Dr. Rana had deserted the Pa kistan army
someti me In the early nineHes. After t hat he had I
never come to Pak istan. He was a doctor in t he I
Pa kistan army and from my coll ege. 1 had given Dr .
Rana's contact number to Maj or Iqbal.
55. Visit to USA in June 2006 to obtain the vi sa for
Indi a: I went to Dr. Rana's place and stayed in his
house for a few weeks. During thi s per iod, we had an
elaborate discussi on on the establ ishment of the
lmmigrant Law Centr e (lLC) In f-lumbai. I told Dr






Rana t he enti re plan of the LeT and lSI. [ reqLJ>;:st ed
his help which he ...... ~ a d i l y agreed to provIde. 1 '<now
Mr. Raymond Sanders since tlle mid-ninet ies. I met
1 r-'1 r. Sa nders in [ he FWIC in Ch icago. AU the
documents were prepared to obtai n my visa. AI!
papers were prepared by Or. Rana and Mr. Sanders. I
went to the Indian Consulate on 29 June 2006, to
obtain the v isa. I did not know t hat for t he Visa, so
many columns needed to be filled up i n the
appl icati on f orm. [ pr ovided false Information on
father 's name and some other particulars. [ was told
to come on the next day and coll ect my visa. (
collected my visa for India, for one year, from t he
Indian Consul ate In Chicago. When I appl ied for t he !
Indian vl s;;I my passport had al ready t he visa s[amp \
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of Pakistan on it. Al so, my Pakistan vi Si ts In February
and June were recorded in the passport .
56. Dr. R:ana was also i nfluenced by my thoughts and
actior.s. He assur Ed all the help in India. 1 could
understand that he had genuine fee li ngs co fight for
t he :;:auSe of Islam On i: ::'!ing asked I state that l

have not travelled with Dr. Rana in July 2006 to
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with me to Pa kistan. I told Dr. Rana rh()t my nephew
would seM nl m money wh1ch h ~ would have to send
to me in rndia. Tli my under standi ng, Dr . Rana, apart
from having a soft corner for t he cause of Islam, also
saw a genuine business opportunity in India. It was
decided t hat we '.'IIQul d tal k in English whenever [
call ed up Dr . Rana from India.
57. Preparation for visit to I ndia (Aug ust 2006
onwards) : Upon my retur n from the USA, r met
separ ately Major Iqbal In lahore and Sajld In
Muzaffarabad. I showed them my I ndian visa . Maj or
Iqbal came to my home and paid $25,000 in t hree
bundles ($10,000, $10,000 Mel $5,000). These
bu ndles had no bank ri bbon on t hem. When I met
Saj id, he was already awar-e that I had received
money from Major Iqbal. The LeT did not provide me
any money for [ hiS tr ip . I do not recall whether I met
Zaki before my Visit to I n d i ~ .
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recollect ] carried $3000-$4000 dUring my f irst
trip and two credi t cards. During my first t rip, I
car ried my mother-in- Iaw's camera with which I
conducted videography arl d phOtogr aphy. I cannot
recoll ect the model of the camera. I spoke to Dr.
Rana my visit. Dr . Rana gave me the name
and details of e3shir and told me that Bash!r would
receive at the Mll oohai airport.
59. Fi rs t visit t o India ( 14 September 2006 to 14
December 2006): I was recei ved by at t he
Mumba i airport . This was my Arst visit t o India. I had
never visit ed India i n any other name before t his. Of
cou rse, I had travelled to count ri es li ke UK, France,
Ger many, Maldives, Sri Lanka, etc., in the name
Daood Gilani.
60. I reached Hotel Outram ;1) Mumbai. I got t\1e money
exchanged with t he help of Abdullah, an empl oyee in
Hotel Outram. I purchased a mobile phone and a SI M
ca rd . Whi le in India t had never contaneo anyone
from my cell phone in Pakist an as Inst ructed. I 'Nould
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couple of ot her cyber cafe near Hotel Outram. [ used
the memory sticks which I purchased from a couple
of showrooms. One show room I recollect was near a
book shop close to the Hotel Outram. I do not
remember of obtaining any receipt against the
purchase of memory st icks from these shops. I
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Messman , Rahul Bhat and so on. I had taken ut most
care to concea l my ident ity. I submitted a form in
Reserve Bank of India, Mumbai under the
of Mr . Raymond Joseph Sanders for establishing a
li aison office of MJs. I mmigrant Law Center, Chicago
. at Tardec AC Market, Mumbai. During the later part
of September 2006, I conducted an interview under
the pretext ot appointing a secretary at Shyam Niwas
for my Immigrant law Centre offi ce. On the
r ecommendation of Ms. Kirpal anl , MS. Mahr ukh R.
Barucha. a ParS] reSident of Mumbal, attended the
Interview and I appoi nted her as a Secre tary. ! made
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Haji All , Gateway of I ndia, Hotel Taj, Applo Bunder,
State Police HQrs of t-1aharasht ra, ON Road, Azac:l
Maidan, Areas close to Hotel Outram, Marine drive
areas and so on. [ received money from Dr. Rana on
1:\"' 0 occasions. On both t he occasi ons, I recei ved t he
money from a bank located very close to the Hotel
Oberoi. 1 bel ieve t he Canadian Consulate IS also
located In the same bui ldi r1g where I used to go and
col l ect the money. I do not recoll ect the name of the
bank. During t his VIsi t, I had not gone out of Mumbai
in India .
61. Return to Pakist an after the first visi t of India:
Dur ing my stay in India, t had never t al ked to any of
my handl ers In As soon as I reached
Lahore, I contacted l"l ajar Iqbal and met him at the
fourt h locat ion where we usuaHy met. In ract aft er
th is meetIng we met only at this
} four th location. r met Najar I qbal and shared my
f wi th hi m. I gave him t he memory st ick of
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next mor ning he r eturned the memory stiLk to me. I
had not given thi s memory st ick to Abdur Rehman
Hashim. After ~ coupl e of days, I left for
Muzaffarabad. I went by a bus t o Rawalpindi dnd then
from Ptndi I took a mini bus to Muzaffarabad. Saj ld
had come i n a jeep to recei ve me from the bus stand.
1 stayed at "Bai[-ul-f'-luJal1iddin" ( here in after BM) . I
met Abu Anas, Abu Qahafa, Muzzammll and Zaki at
SM. Abu Anas was worki ng li \(e an assi stant t o Sajld.
1 could see the growing import ance of Saj id over
Muzzammil d ur ing my stay ~ n Br'-1. ~ ~ j l d took t he
foot i:lges from me. He only discussed on the Taj
hotel . Sajld was very particular of the antlual
conference of the software professionals in Taj. There
was no speci f ic discussion on any target. 1 could al so
understand t hat there was no pl an for immedi<l te
strike in Indi a.
62. [ met Zaki the next morning. He offered me mi lk
and saffron. I Informed Zakl about my activiti es.

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we could at tack any such place In India. I presume
that this place t o be Banar as or foota ges or
In Indi a .. [ had never gone to any of
t hese places. SaJid showed inter est in my associat ion
Wit h Rahu! Shat.
63. Upon my re turn to Lahore, [ cont inue d my t raining
v-nt h t he NCO given by Maj or [q bal to me on var ious
aspects of int elligence collect i on. The need to
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Before my vi sit to I ndia, in t he last week of Febr uary

2007, I got ma rri ed to Fa iza . She was a med ica l
st udent in t he Lahore medical college. She is a
Mor occan nati onal. I had not disclosed t his marri age
to my wife Shazia. I had ta ke-n Shazia's uncl e Sau lat
Into confidence.
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wo:> given to Jf: der str) nd that Abd ur Reh man,
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Khurram Haraon 'fI.eze. then fi ghti ng the
force" (t he NATO forces) on t he SOils. of Afghanistan.
65. Before coming t o India for the second time, I did not
go out of Pakistan. I took briefings from Major Iqbal

and SaJid separat ely. This t ime also, I di d not receive

.!lny money f!'Om t he LeT. [ carri ed the sa me camera
with me for t his t r ip to India. The number gi ven on
the air t icket for t his time ..... as of ?<! ulac Marn\J .
65. Second trip to I ndia (21 / 02/2007 to
15/ 0 3/2007): I reached Mumbai on 21, February
2007. 1 had requE':sted Mrs. 8harucha to get a new
SIM ca rd for my trip, Duri ng t his period I opened .an
account in the Reliance cyber I remained
engulfed .. with some developments on my personal
front during thi s period. [ came back to Lahore on
lStn March, 2007 to attend to some personal i ssues.
After fi .... e days, I again left for MumoaL I had not
disclosed this viSit with my handlers. Of course, 1 had
discussed these Issues 1'l1th Dr. Rana .
67. Th ird tr ip to India ( 20/ 03/2007 to
17/05/2007): I reached Mu mbl'!1 on 20th March,
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68. I left Mumbai and spent th ree days with my wi fe
Shazia and children in DubaL ( had not informed
about t his visit to any of my handlers Other than Dr.
Rana . I was in Dubai for t hree days.
69. Fourt h trip to Ind ia {20/05/ 2007 t o
07 / 06/2007}: r reached Indl a on 20, May 2007 and
spent some t ime wi t h Vi llas and Rahul Bhat . We
cel ebrated Villas's bi rth day on 30 I'-1ay, 2007. I do
not recoll ect conduct ing any important surveillance; [
dId some general videography of t he cit y during this
period. I was in regul ar touch wit h Dr. Rana.
70. Arri va l in Pakistan and visits to USA a nd
Moroc:co: I returned from Mumbai and met Major
Iqbal and Saj id Majid in Lahore and
Muzaffarabad respectivel y. I gave the videos first to
I qbal and then to Salfd Majid. Inter estingly.
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stIck t hat I had given to Saj id, Sajid had digitally
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gIVing hi m t he covered photogra phs of my wi fe to
him following t he true sa/afi t radit ion.
71. 1 left La hore on 23 July, 2007 a nd went to USA. I
spent a day with Far id and [he next day I flew t o
Morocco to meet my ,'li fe Falza. I remained i n
Horocco from 24 July, 2007 to 3 August, 2007. I flew
from Casablanca by the Emirates Airli nes and reached
L3hore on 4 August, 2007.
72. I had visit ed Chicago and applied for t he multipl e
VIS.;'! to Jndia. This was given t o me on and around the
end of Ju ly 2007.
73. Ret urn t o Paki stan before Fifth visit to I ndia :
Upon my ret urn to LOIhore, ! met Maj Or Abdur
Rehman Hashi m and Major Haroon. As [ have
ment ioned earlier, Abdur Rehman developed some

se ri ous differences with Zak i after his Nep- al.. -"l isjt.
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by LeT. However , he did not diSCUSS the Nepal set up
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LeT Once i n the past Abdur Rehman. Abu Duj ana,

Haroon and ! In my house had discussed the
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assassination pl an of Pr esident Musharraf. Thi s was
reported by Abu Dujana to Zakl. Zaki had shown his
anger t o us for making such discussion. Major Hamon
had also developed differences wit h Zaki. In f ~ c t .
Major Haroon and Capta in Haroon had distr ibuted
pamphlets against ZakL Ther e was also a strong
rurnour that Zaki woul d be replaced by [51 as the
milit ary Ch ief of LeT. However , It di d not happen.
74. During this period. [ reali zed t h ~ t Captain Khurram
had died on 30 March, 2007 in a drone at tack by the
Canadian force In Afghanistan. r remember t he date
as my son W<.'lS also born on t he sa me day . "1ajor
Abdur Rehman was present when rhis happened. He
re mained unmoved and fought . Then subsequent ly,
they buried the body of Captai n Khu rram. He
informed Maj or Haroon about the deat h of Captain
Khurram.
75. After the Lal Masj id inCi dent, ! met Maj or Haroon
and Abdu r Rehman Hashim in Lahore. The Lal M.Jsjid
episode was cr it icized. It showed t he hel plessness of
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.' 78. Fifth/sixth visi t to India in September 2007: I
came fr om Lahore and landed in Del hi . From the
airport. 1 took a taxi for the Cia ridges Hote l located
near NOC. I cOr1ducted th reconnaissance of the
NDC. [di d not conduct any vi deogrZlphy of t he NDC. 1
did not st ay in Delhi, In t he same eveni ng, [ took a
flight from Delhi .;;lnd Mmnbai.
79. I reached Mumba i on 4 September, 2007. Dur ing
this per iod, I conducted an extensive survy of
vari ous ent ries and exit pOints Df Hotel Taj . I also
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extensivel y videographed. I also visited [he house of
Sal a Saheb Thackeray and t;)l ked to some of the
guards present in the peri meter secur kty. 1 took t he
videos of Vill as and Rahul also. ! do not recollect on
'Ii hich date [ went to Pu ne. However I am sure that
dur ing t his period I hZld gone to Pune and covered

some army inst allations i n the city. This VIas my first
visit to Pune. In tl)e",subsequent year s, I would visit
Ch is City t wice.
80, I went to Lahore for the celebration of el d without
the knowl edge of any of my handlers. I stayed In
La hore for four/five days and t hen returned to
Mumbai.
81. I did not visit any other place outside Mumbai
ourlng this phase. r had not gone to Jalpl,lr durlng

this p h a s ~ . I tried to become clo5e to Ra]ram Rege,
t he Shiv Sena PRO. I took him out for lunch also. r
did videography of Rajram Rege . I ',isited the
Willington Gol f course with Vil las to get a
membership. It did not mat eri al ize. However, I took
t he video footage of Willington golf course. I h ~ d
brought a Golf ki t from Pakist an where I used to go
t he Garrison golf course In Lahor e (where I was being
coached on the game.) This is t he same Gol f Ki t that
I left with Villas before leavin.9 India.
H2 i underst and till the end of this visit, LeT had a
li mited pion to attack the Hot el Taj In MU:lbai durmg
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[he t ime of the annual conference. Oftt! II, SoJi d would
discuss with me'" the option of sending one ur two
attackerS through NepCl I or Bangladesh rou te to carry
out t he atti:lck in hotel Taj .
83. Return to Pakistan : Upon my return to Pakist an,
like t he past practice, I met Major I qbal in the safe
house (fourt h lac.ation). [ gave him the vi deos of
Pune. The videos of Pune were of not mere than
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twenty five mlnl.!tes to half an hour's duralfon. Hl!
copied t he videos and returned the memory st ick to
me. We saw some of tlle Pu ne videos Hajor
gave me his assessment on t he movement of
t he Fo r ce on the basis of the ir i nsfgnia and dresses
captured by me.
84 , Du ri ng t his time, I coul d not meet Major Haroon.
However I coul d meet Abdur Rehman @ Pasha on a
cou ple of occasiOl"1s i'lnd discus5ed the Taj Hotel and
other places for attacks, with hi m. I gave hi m OJ
briefi ng on r he NDC, DeihL
85. I reached Muzaffarabad. Sajid and Abu Anas
(ece ivd at the bus stand. I stayed iher e for f[\le
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of videos of AI- Qzeda In Afghanistan and some very
old videos of Os(! ma bin Laden . Abu Qahafa made
seri ous effort s in plolting all the places near T<!j Hotel
on t he "Goo9l e eart h" . Vie dId a comprehensive study
on " Google earth" to (Vl duc[ the r econnaissance of
Hote l Taj .
86. During t his peri od, J Zaki al so in Muza ffarabad.
I had dinner wit h hirr . My country, was
undergOi ng an c ri SIS in the '.vake of t he
happenings in Afghar ist an and FATA areas of
Pak ist an. A hao begun among the ter roriSt
outfi ts as to whether to fi ght-In Kashmir or In
Afghan ista n . The " clash of ideol ogy .... led to spl it s in
many of the out f its . The decisi on of Abdu( Rehman
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Ha roon t o split from LeT and f ight in Afghanistan
was part of t hls t rend. Zakl had seri ous pr obl em i n
holding the LeT and : anvincing t hem to flg ht for
KashmIr and agarnst I n: ta.

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(a) The ratio of depl oyment of 111 Kashmir vis-a-
vis. t he general populat ion is one of t he highest. So It
becomes leyit lmat e to right the occupati onal forces in
Kashmir.
(b) The Lashkar -e-Toiba IS doser to the Kashmi r
Situation and populatfon than Afghani stan. It can
perfor m jihad bet t er In Kashmi r than
Over the years LeT hClS been able to get a name for
it, which may not be easy to repli cat e in Afghani stan.
{c)Si nce Kashmir Is the near est to the LeT camps it
becomes i mper at ive to li berat e Kashmir from the
Cl ut ches of the occupat ional force.
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project. Earlier it was a limit ed plan to attack onl y Taj
Hotel in Mumbal with a couple or attackers l ike it
used to happen earlier. But now it seemed to be a
grand pl an of LeT to strike Mumbai at multi ple
locat ions with multiple attackers.
90. Meet ing with Saj i d in Rawal pindi : This t ime
Instead of r-luzaffarabad, I was t old by Saj id to come
and meet him In I reached PmdL. Abu
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Bhutt!) VI as assassinated. This safe house or LeT is
locat-e d near t he Ayub Colony in Rawal pindi. We had
some serious discussions on at t acking the Tal hotel.
We also discussed 8enazi r's assassination and its
i mpact on t he futur e of Pakistan. I recollect that all of
them wer e praying that Benazir shoul d not survive
this attack. I met Abu Anas, Abu Hamza and Saj id in
this Rawalpind! house. [ had some personal problems
so [ left Rawalpindi after a couple of days' st ay i n t hat
house. I believe during this ti me Zaki met a couple of
me LeT operatives who had escaped from India. [ do
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r.ot have any infor mation on the Rampur attack on
i the CRPF camp that took place on t he 1 January,
2008.
91. On and around Febr uary 2008 t again vi sited Pi ndi
on t he request of Saj id. I t ook a taxi and reached
Barakahu, Plndi. Sa] id met me at t he &. rakahu
( hO'Nk. Thi s time he took me: t o a different safe
rouse. I met Abu Anas and Abu Qahafa at this safe
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also met Abu Alaqarna. I stayed for' two ditys in the
safe house.
92. Before coming t<J Pindl , Maj or Iqbal had briefed me. .
1 had continued the act i vit ies wi t h the trai ner
provided by Major Iqbal in lahore. Major Iqbal had
given me a Sony Ericson mobile phone wlt h camera,
He also taught me how to operate t his instrument .
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93. On and around March 2008, when t he FIA building
was attacked, I waS In Pindi. I do not recollect
anything Signifi cant being discussed duri ng thiS
meeti ng. Abu Anas ""as avai lable in the safe house.
The same day. Sajid and ! left by bus for
Muzaffarabad. Abu Qahafil had com(' to recei ve us.
We went to Sajld's house In i'luzaffarabad. Ther e was
a meeting fIxed, which was held in Zaki 's place.
Ini t iall y Saj id w.;as not interested In taking me to thi s

meeting but he changed his plan. In this meeti ng
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prescnt. I met a clean shaven person with a crew cut
hair styl e in mid-thirt i es in this meeting. He was
i ntroduced to me as Rehman (frogman) and 1
was introduced to hi m as Abdul Qildir. I understand
that the fr09man was from the Pakista.n navy. They
had discussed various landi ng options along t he coast
of Mumbai. Zaki wanted to ca rry out the
t ransportation of attackers with help of the frogman
in this meeting. The "sea chart" brought by t he
frogman was discussed, Di fferent landing options
were discussed, There was a plan to drop the
attdckers somewhere, 60/70 kms away from the

Iltlumbal city in order to avoid detection. But Zakl had
reservations. The frogman tol d them that the sea
becomes rough after the month of June. So he said
t hat all the planning woul d ned to be completed
before June.
94. On the second day of t he meet ing Abdur Rehma n
(frogman) told me t o check the position of the naval
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before entering the Indi an li mits. After t his
meeti ng, ! had never seen the frogman again. Zaki
wanted me to explore the entry t o Mumba i througrl
the Taj Hotel side.
95. r st ayed in t his locat i on for some more ti me. Saj ld
provided me wIth an old used GPS of Gar mi"
Company. It had a yellow cover on it . Sol id and Abu
Qahafa t aught me how to use the GPS instr ument. I
learnt hQ'.'I to use of the GPS. ! can Ident Ify t he GPS
which 1 used.
96. Upon my return from Muzaffara bad, I met I-lajar
Iqbal. He was already (! Ware of t he transportation of
attai: kers to Mumbai t hrough ,. Sei31 rou tes. He
discussed the possibility of taking an Indian boat for
t his purpose. He al so suggest ed t aking a large
quantity of ar ms and ammunition and dumping them
i n I ndia. According t o f4aJor Iqbal. the

op: ion and use of boat on ly once In a 'Nhi !e.
50 he belIeved that t he Full preparatIon for a:-Ld
ut Ili zat ion of t his trip should be made.

97. For this visit ""I ajo r.r I qbal asked me to e:.: piore the
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in Mumbai especi ally i ts staff colony as a target. As I
said earlier he gave me t he mobil e phone camera
dUring t his trip. M\ijor Iqbal had al so g iven me some
counterfeit money for circ.ulat ion/use in India. Saj id
had given me Rs . 40, 000 Pakistani cur rency for this
trip.
98. Vis it to India for r e connaissance of t he land ing
s i tes for the attackers i n April 2008 (Seventh
visit to India) : I reached Hotel Outram as Mrs.
Kiri palinl had some problems with the paying guests
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in Mumbai. 1 met Abdul lah in Hotel Outram. On that
, day irself I took a t axi and went t o t he BARe. There
was a big r esi dent ial ar ea near the BARe, wilich l
believe is one of the largest residential areas in Asi a.
I videographed this entire area , In the evening I had
food at the Indigo resta ura nt.
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the reconnai ssance of the landing sites,
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Taj/Applobunder are,a .. "Thal Vias t he first boat ride I
took In Mumbai. Since i t was gett ing dark, ! could not
see much. It was ~ tourist boat . I took t he ticket in
front of t he TOlj Hot el.
(b)On and around 10 April 2008, 1 took the second
boat ride from the marine drive area. Around 8 :30
PM in the e'lenlng on the same day [ took ;: he boat
r ide. This ride was also not very useful, [ had il
conversation with one of the b02l l men and took hi,;
address and telephone number For an exclusive boat
ride .
(c) The next day, i. e., 11 Apri l 2008, ( w ~ n t to Cuffe
Parade area, the place where finally t he att ackers
landed. r found a number of f ishermen pr esent in
that a rea. I talked to ~ pe rson who stays near a
temple in that locality. He t old me t o come the next
morning at 3am fOr the boat rIde. I taok hl S
telephone number and left the place. Th e next
morning i.e., 12 April 2008, at 3am [ reached the
place and took t he boat ri de. We went almost six km
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fro m the seashore. I found this t rip produc.tive ;;IS I
was convinced t hat this would be the righ t place for
the landing of the attackers. On 14 April 2008, 1 went
to Cuffe Parade again and t alked to the fi sherman. [
went to his house whi ch is located very near a small
templ e. I do not recollect the name of the person.
However I can ident ify him. He introduced me with a
boy. I took his t elephone number agai n and told him
that some CO ll ege students would contact him for a
boat ride soon. I did ft, keeplng in mind the pOSSibl!
vislt of the att ackerS to this place. I had subseq uent ly
gi ven t his nsherman's telephone number to Sajid,
Duri ng my t r ip. plotted the coordi nOltes in the GPS.
(d) I took the next boat ride from the Warl i area. I

recollect paying Rs. 2000 for ride. This r ide was
not very useful. I got Some fi sh caught during th is
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1 met I'-lejor Iqbal in La hore at the fourt h rocat ion. I
handed over the videos/memory sticks to hi m. The
videos WE're handed over only t o Major I
dId not handover t he sa me videos to Saj id. The
egress points for th e attackers were discussed. Major
Iqbal suggested t hat 1 set up a safe hOuse In Mumbaj,
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undergone plas.tlc surgery during this I n my
assessment , his face has not changed much after t he
pl asti c surgery. During this peri od, r met Sajid, Abu
Anas, Abu Qahafa and Zaki. Muzs:ammll and Abu
AJaqama '.-'Jere not present dur ing this meeti ng. I met
Zaki in t he evening. He ha d come In his Toyo[a
vehicl@. I di d not see the sense of urgency In them
for the attack whi ch I had seen before goi n9 to
Mumbai. However, Zaki tol d me t hat he could see t his
thing happeni ng. I did not ment ion anythi ng on BARe
to t hem. Abu Qahafa plotted the way pOints i n t he
CPS in hs lapccp- all e locatrons that I had ploned

104, One of my friends, Adim Aziz who subsequent ly
died of heart amick, Chicago. ! have used his
flats and tel ephone numbers in USA. His family, after
his death was shifted t o Pi! kistan,
105. 1 di scussed my re.connaissance activit ies wit h
Or . Rana. Dr. Rana told me about CJ bilateral
agreement mentioning that nOn use of f orce on each
other 's nuclear installati ons exists between I ndia and
Pakist(ln. This discussion was made in the light of the
surveillance of BARe mentioned by me. Dur ing this
period I was in touch wi t h Sa)id through emall s. Saj id
wanted some books on Mossad, to read. Major Iqbal
had also requested for a spy pen fit ted with a
camera. I used to get mails from Raja Ra m Rege
duri ng this per iod. I returned t o Pakistan wi t h my
aunty (Farl d's mot her),
105. Return to Paki stan i n June 2008: Upon my
r eturn on 7 June, 2008 1 contacted Abdur Rehman
Hashim. 1 was getting frustrated as nothing concrete
in terms of action was taki ng place in the LeT. Abdur
Rehman gave me some books to read, The book of
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the fi r st time when Ch(!bad house was discussed. I
met Za ki a lso . Zaki was convinced by on the
landi ng sit es. I was impressed to knQw t hat
Chabad House had been put ilS a target. Saj id, as 1
understand i s a sa lafi " , They consider t he
Jewish peopl e as t he number one ta rget. When [ told
Abdur Rehman Hashim that Chobaci House was a
target he expressed his satisfact ion over the matte r.
He told mE' to Insist on t he LeT to target the Cl1abad
House in MurT1bai . I Wo$ given the S;;l me GPS by Abu
Qahafa t o uS,e dur iflg this tri p of mine. Sajid was very
particular on the egress of t he attackers . They
planned t hat t he attackers should be able to ta ke
some nort h Indian bound t r ai n or bus 50 t hat t hey
could reach Kash mi r and remCline;d there. Later on,
when I met Major I qbal he also emphasized on tlle
egr.ess aptlorl fo r t he attackers.
110. 1 met Major Iqbal in La hore. I tol d hi m about the
Chabad House. He was very h.appy to know t hat
Chabad house had been chosen ps a target .

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:x piOr e for an offi ce in Dei hl. I beheve Major Iqbal
had ta l ked to Or . Rana on thi s subject. Dr . Rana also
told me t o close the office in Mumbal,
il l. I met Abdur Rehman @ Pasha before my
depar ture. I had discussed t he enti re plan wJth
Pasha. He was very particular on tne Chabad House
as a target. I had to ld my brot her Hamza and my
uncl e Saulat Rana about my visits to India. Hamza
and Saulat Knew t hat I was working with lSI. I qbal
had al so given me money for Immigration business.
112. Eighth vi si t to Ind ia {Ol/ 07/ 200B to
31/07/2008): I n July 2008, ! returned to MlJmbai. I
nnallzed the surveillance of the TaJ Hotel, the Naval
Air Station, Pollee Headquarters, the State Assembl y
buildi ng, EL Al AIr lines office, Siddhl Temple,
Chabad House and Mumbai Stock Exchange and so
on. I also covered the Bi Lle Synagogue, CSI office at
r ana house, Leopol d r estauram, Colaba Police
station, Deihl Dar bar, I sraeli ConSulilt,;o, ON Road and
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Pakistan. During my I ndia visit also I also recollect
that I h<:ld rece ived a ca ll from Major Iqba t from the
s.ame number. I do not know the technolO<JY behind
this call of Major [qbal.
116. Return to Pakistan i n August 2008: (
reached L<lhore from Mumbai. I met Major Iqbal III
t he sa me safe house where we usually have bee"
meetIng all t hese days. I briefed him on the Chaba d
House, Naval Air Station and the Pol ice HQrs of
Maharashtra etc. I did not hand over t he GPS system
to him. r-1aj or Iqbal only took the memory sticks From
me.
117. 1 met Abdur RehmC1 11 in his house. We saw the
v ideos which I had got (ro m MumbO:l i. Abdur
Rehman's house has a comput er with broad-band
i nternet connect ion, My home had a dial -up
connecti on. I used to browse on t he i nternet in the
house of Abdur Rehma n.
118. I went to t o meet Sajid . Saji d had
pers-onall y corne to receive me. He had come i n the
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I had met the frogman earli er. Sajld's famil y was
pr esent in the nouse. Saji d told me that Abu Qahafa
was traini ng the attackers on the same campus. We
disCUSSl!!! d t he VT trai n schedules and t he bus t i mings
to exercise the egress options. Sajid told me that he
had dropped two/thr ee boys from the t raining. I
understood t hat ten attackers were being
trained.
1\9. l' he. next d<'." , A.bu Qahaf a came and met me. He
loaded tl1l1'! GPS in hi s l aptop and plott ed t he GPS
entries! r eadings In separate fol der s In his computer .
INe together saw some of the video footage that I
had taken duri ng the Ju ly 2008 Mumbai trip. Saj fd

asked me about the Blue Synagogue. 1 told hi m t hat
IsraelIs did not go to the Blue Synagogue. It was
frequented by t he Indian Jews only . He f urther asked
me t hat why I did not go Inside t he Chabad HOLlse . I
told him it was a very smal l establishment and wou ld
serve t he purpose of t he stronghold. We also
discussed about the je.', ellery :;hoO in TaJ. Ther e was

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t o rhe plan of looting t he Jewellery shop. [
could also understand that they 'I'I ere preparlng two
sets of t argets depending on the landing ti mings of
the attackers. If the attackers reach durin9 the day
time then Mumbaf Police HQrs would be a target.
Saj id was very happy to see the Wrist bands that I
had taken from the Slddhi Vinayak temple as he liked
my i dea. I did not see t-l l,1zzammil during t hiS trip.
120. A meeting of Lers top hierarchy (Sur a of Zaki)
headed by Zakl was hek:l dur i ng t his t ime. l '.'las In
the same campus. 1 presume Zaki, \'aqub, Saeed,
Abu Alaqama, Abu Qahafa, Sajid a(ld Abu Samas
were present at this meeting. I was not ta ken Insi de
as Saj id di d not want to expose me i n front of Yaqub.
Dur ing the mlZ'e[ Ing, Saj id would often come and seek
cliJri ficatlons from me,
l21. SaJid had shown me t he photographs of all the
attackers , One of th e attackers who died at t he
Tri dent Hol el was Abu Qahafa's maternal uncle' s son.
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an the Chabad house atta ck. to Abu Saeed,
It woul d unnecessaril y add another enemy which
might be a problem for t he LeT in futu re.
123. I met Major Iqbal in Lahore. l'1aJor Iqbal
quescioned the tra ining of t he attackers as none of
them had combat experience. He also suggested t hat
capturing of an I ndian boat was t he most plausibl e
opt lor1 available to sai l to Mumbai.
124 . I met Abdur Rehman and discussed the outcome
af the meet ing. Abdur Rehman was VISib ly upset to
.know the debat es over the attack on the Chabad
House.
125. 1 went to Muree with my fami ly. 1 got back from
i"l uree t he day President t-l usharraf handed over
char ge to Asif Zardar l ( 18 August 2008), During my
stay In Muree. I got a SMS from SaJid aski ng t he
de:ails about t he VT stat ion. We exchanged some
S;"ISS on thiS topic.
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suffered from fever. They t ook me to a doct or, Abu
was present with me along with SaJi d. I
insist ed on [ he Chabad House attack. The stronghold
option was also discussed, The egress option sl owly
to be di fficult. The stronghold opti on took
pr ecedence over the option. Zak i, by t his
time, was more In favour of a stronghold option than
egress opt ion for the attackers. Abu Qahaf a al so
suppor ted the strong hold opt ion. The LeT 1 believe
was giv ing t he lectures to t he at tackerS on FaI5i:HIJ
and Faisaili jihad.

127. J returned to lahore . After s ome days I came to
know that SaJld had been shift ed to Muridke. I
understood that t l'1e at tackers had been shi fted to
Murldl<e, Dur ing thi s period Hafiz Saeed, Bhutt' ,

Nasar Javed and Abdur Rehman Maki would regularl y '\
go t o Muri dike and t ake cl asses of t he attackers. One
Indian pOSSi bl y from Maharashtra who was
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was not part of t he Mumbai attackers' group.
128. During Saj ld's sl ay in Lahore, r discussed the
attack on VI wit h hi m. I of
Muslims gett ing killed in this acti on was very hi gh. He
rej ect ed t he proposition by tel ling t hat we
attack the stati on d u r ~ n g " l ftaarl" t ime. t hus making it t
highly i mprobable tor Muslims to b: klUed',
129. During my last stay in MLJ zaffarabad we had
come t o Pindl to buy baCkpacks {or the attackers.
These were Chinese back packs. Abu Anas was then
i n Pl ndi at t he safe house.
.1 130. During t il e discussion for the boat ride, I had
suggested the use of vests for safety . [n fact t he
vests only saved all the attacker s during t he fi rst
attempt whi ch fai led sometime in September 2008.
131. On and around August 2008, on the di rection of
Saji d I went to Wagha border to check the cel l phone
connect ivity Of one of t he- SI r.! cards whi ch the
attackers 'Nould u s ~ In l'\1 umoai. I recollect It was an
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connectivity of thi s SIM card in the Wagha area .
Wagha is a thirty mi nut es drive From Lahore .
132. On 8, Sept ember 2008 I shifted my famIly to
USA. Dr , Rana's famil y received my fami ly in Ch1cago.
My wj fe Shazla and four chil dren started st aYing In
Azim's house. They in the S<lme house.
133, Meanwhile my wife, Faiza Ol.ltalha went and met
Hafiz Saeed in early September. Before t his, also, she
would meet senior off icials in pOlice set up and create
prOblems for me. I taken into the Lahore Police
custody on her complaint . I w'as in the Race Course
police station for eight days. My father-in - Law
(Shazia's Fat her) got me bailed out. Major Iqb<ll had
also helped me this case.
134. Hafiz Saeed wanted me t o reconci le wit h Faiza. (
told him since I had been busy with LeTs oper alj onal
activities it would be difficult for me to concent rate on
Faiza 's i$5Ue, which he agreed. Hafiz Saeed duri ng
t his diSCussion told me ch.;Jt the Sl1i v Sena Chief, 8al
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to be given six rn.onths t l m ~ to complete my work on
Bal Thackeray. However, [ had found Hafiz Saeed
real ly guarded and diplomatic in his conversations.
He would never align himself to Cl ny direct
conversation on LeT's action plan. This meeting did
not yield any result on Falza's relations with me.
13S. Meanwhile J had met Zaki in Muzaffarabad. i
also met Abdur Rehma n and Informed him that the
Chabad house would be one of the targets in Mumbal.
136. Saj id and t he attackers left for K2!lrachl by train
after some days. I di d not hear anything from sajid
for some days.
137. On and around the middle of October, 2008 J
met Sajid in Lahore. Saj id ment i oned t hat they had
made an attempt during Ramzan which failed.
boat hi t a rock and t he attackers had to remain IJJ ,tlie.
water for some time. Thi s boat they had purchased
after paying RS.25 lakhs. !t was because of their
l,I est5 t h ~ t they survived. Tney were brought to the
seaShOre In another boar. S3j ld did not confirm the
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weapons wer-e in another boat. 5aji d t old me t hat
Zaki had gone t o Mecca to pray for the success of the
attack.
l3B. During this peflod, once Saji d and Maj or Iqbal
came t o my home. Th ls Is the first tlme, Major Iqbal
and Sa]id came together to my home. We discussed
about t he Denmark prOJect . The legal s y ~ t e m at
Denm2!rk was discussed at this meeting. Nt}
discussion on Mumbal was discussed at this meet[ng.
I wanted to name i t the "Mickey Mouse Proj ect ....
However SajLd did not like this name. He named it
"Norther n Proj ect" .

139. Though Sajld sai d there would be second
attempt for Mumbai in October and Yaqoob was
t ryi ng to r ent a bQ.at, it seemed t o me that ""lumbai
miSSion was more or less over. Yakoob had been
made t he in-charge of naval wing of LeT, Sajid said
[hat [he boys were depressed and Zaki would be:
meeting th"!m to li ft their 5prits.
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from god that god was not happy wit h LeT. He t old
me tha t he knew somebody who had contacts with
AI-Qaeda and he wanted me to work for him. I
agreed.
14 1. After this meeti ng, Sajld went to KarachI. [ did
not have any t el ephonic con tact wi th hi m. On and
around 7, November 2008 I went to Karachi on a
personal business t ri p to complete some work for of
Jahangi r ( my partner). I stayed at Hot el Holiday Inn
In Lahore. During t hi s vi sit I met Saj id i n Karachi.
SaJld told me l hat the second attempt to capture an
Ind ian boat fa il ed. They took a boat on rent by
paying five lakh rupees. They went at night. As they
approached t he Indian boat. the cr eW became
conscious and started steering t he boat away. There
was excha nge of f ire also.
142 , Sajld gave
pen drive containing some
informati on on Denmark . I t was m05tly the opef"1
source resea rCh on Denmark . It had
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Flemming Rose and Kurt Westergaard, the cartoonist
and t he edit or of t he paper , In Kar achi we at
r<lac Donald restaur;lnt. Saj id was al so upset as Abu
Alaqama, Abu Yaqub and ot hers used t o i nterfere (n
t he Mumbai att ack proj ect. He became skeptlQ'l I as
he st arted believing that t he secrecy of t he operation
'IIould get compromised. l believe Sajid 'Nns present
i n Ka rachi t ill t he end of t he ""'umbal attack. I had
never gone to t he safe house i n Kar achi. ! returned t o
Lahore. Sajl d had gl ..... en me 3000 eUTO for the
Denmark reconnaissance.
l 43. Since Abdur Rehman wanted t o give a direction
to his busi ness, he met Dr. Rana on a r"1d around 24
November, 2008 In Dubai. Abdur Rehman, as
discussed earl i er with me, proposed to Dr . Rana to
mar ry t he Widow of Captai n Khurram Haroon. This
proposal was under consideration till [he of Dr.
Rana. Hi s visit t o D\.J bai and meet ing with Dr. Rana
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a SMS rrom Saj /d mentlonl nq t hat , [he dilJ:e had been
cast.
S8Jid had once wid me to pay 50me money to
someone in New York for the communlCilt ion.
However he never gave t he address oi t hat person to
me.
145. On 26 November, 2008 I got an SMS from
Saji d's Zong mobile to my Warid mobile asking me t o
swi tch on the TV. I switched on the TV end saw the
telecast of the l'1'Jmbal attack. I forwarded the same
message to Abdur Rehman, I watched t he attack on
tne GEa TV and CNN. I had exchanged mails with my
wife Shazl a on the same issues.
147, I met Sajid after t he attack in Lahore. He was
looking t ir ed. I met him at my houSe. Sajid told me
that the landing si tes chosen by me were used. Sajid
informed me that explosives wer e also used so t o
cause confUSion among t he (ndian response forces. (
did not know th at t he explosi ves to be used and t h ~ s
was first t ime SaJi d told me th:!t Abu Qahafa had

trained the boys In grenades. !-Ie added that one of
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ilold opt ion at the VI stat ion and they had hijacked
the car and kll led senior police officers. He was
confused with the person who was arrested.
According to Saj id. Abu Ismail was arrested.
Subsequ-ently, 'Ne found it was not Abu ts mail b1.Jt
Kasab, who was arrested. Saji d (ol d me that he had
mstr ucted the attackers over phone . He added that
they also tried to get the arrested attacker released
i n eXChange with same people held hostages in
Chabad House. In the LeT cont rol room Abu Alaqama,
Abu Qahafa and Sajid Mir were present. In my
understanding, the person who was negotlC!ting in the
Nariman House fr om t he LeT conrrol room was Saj id,
148. 1 had met Saj id on and around February, 2009
in Pindi. We were in Saj id's car. Sajid 'made me hear
the audios of t he Mumbai attack. 1 coul d identify
three voices from [he audio: t hose of Abu Qahafa,
Abu Alaqama and Saj ld. Saj id played a video of
General Ashok Mehta <'lnd also of the Mumbai video
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Sajid's vOice and he was Instr ucti ng t he attacker in
the ChabCld house to kill t he women. The person who
was tal ki ng t o attackers at Taj was Abu Alqama. His
Taqia K"Jam (Oft repeated word) is Nera Veer (my
brother ) and he \'las uSing it. I heard Alqama saying
something about t he buckN (Balti) . The thi rd voice
was of Abu Qahaia. Abu Qahafa was addressing the
atts ckers and was telling them that t he ent ire
Ummah was looking up to the them (attackers) .
149. After the Mumbai attack Zaki was arrest ed and
kept In Udial j ai l. The lSI DG, Sujja Pasha had visited
him to t he Mumbai att ack conspiracy .
Zaki gets homemade food in the j arl and his family
members and other members of LeT regularly meet
him. Saj id had claimed before me t hat he hiJd met
Zak i when tlie later was in t he j ail.
t50. I recall Dr. Rana desc.riblng SaJid as Khalid Din
Waleed aft er he nearQ Saj ld's voi ce in the audio tape
r:omaining the /'IIumba i attack, Sajicl had t alked
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151. Begi nning of t he conspiracy to attack
Chabad Hous:es in India: My father expired on 25
December, 2008. r CQuid not come to Pakistan then. I
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152. The Denmar k project was a matter of concern
fOr bot h Sajid Cl nd Abdur Rehma n. [n t he month of
Feb, 2009 I most ly remai ned in r had gone
to Germ<lny on 15 January, 2009 and r eturned to
LiJ hore on 25 January 2009. During my stay In
Pakistan, i met Ulyas Kashmir1 in FATA region. Abdur
Rehman had ta ken me to IIIyas K.a shmiri's place. Two

ot her perSons accompanied us in t his visit . They
Nawaz and Ij az. Nawaz was an ol d friend of Abdur
Rah mOr1 and I got the impression that he had worked
with LeT in the past. Tjaz was my fri end from the
AbdiJliarl . Ija z. belonged to Tc,bligi j amat and I toot(
him to Kashmir. to ge: him Indoctrinat ed int o Jihad.
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the Mu mbai u t t a c ~ s , Ijaz had reti red from Air force.
I11yas Kas/1i mri knew Izaz's brot her who happened l c.
, be an lSI agent. The task of reconnaissance of the
Chabad Houses in India was given to me.
153 _ Upon our return Abdur Rehman gave me
additional infor mation about my trip. He asked me to
survey Chabad Houses and Rakshe Bhawan In Delhi, I
\'las also told to survey a house in Goa 'tl here Israeli
soldiers come for a holiday and Osha temple i n Pune ,
[ could make owe t hat the Abdur Rehman was mor e
i nterest ed in india. Abdur Rehman gave me Rs_SSODO
and paid for my air travel.
154. As I was concerned about my safety I emalled
my will to Tahawwur Rana. I ... las in contact with
Rana dur ing this period. I told Rena to open a shared
email account in order to pass the i nfor mati on. ( told
Rana about Abdur Rehman's COnnectio(l wit h lIIyas

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157. From Pushkar I went to Jaipur by road and then
took a night to Goa. From t he ai rpor t I st rai ght went
Anjuna beach and looked around for the Chabad
house. The C h ~ b a d house did not seem to be very
impresSive to me stil l I made Videos of the sa me.
From there I went to Armabole ~ n d checked into
Fati ma's guest house . The I "rae-l i house In Armabole,
which Abdur Rehman had mentioned was <tn old
bUilding pai nted in purpl e. I did not find anybody in
the bUi lding and it was locked r made a detailed video
of the Israeli house and people around told me that
very few Israelis visited this place.
158. r took a bus from Goa to Pune. In Pune I stayed
i n hotel Surya villa which Is SQOmetres from t he
Chabad house. I went to Osha ashram. [ had worn a
gown which I had purchasf;'d in my previous visit. [
made detail ed videos of Osha ashram from outside
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159. fro m Pune I went to Mumbai and spoke 'o'-lith
Mrs. Bharul.:ha. 1 also went to t he r elii3nce cybe:r cafe
and accessed my mail. [ gave 50me money to the
cyber cMe person so my account there would remain
al ive . 1 went to see a movie In the same theatre
whi ch I had visit ed in 200B. After th e movie I went
I?ashir's house and took some stuff from the luggage.
Bashir told me that hi s immigr ation to Canada 'lIas
almost through.
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at his house. I gave hi m the r econnaissance videos
and we discussed each and every target i n detai l. I
could kill
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Pakistan. I had t old the same thing to Rana

when I tal ked t o /l Im from India. [ briefed Abdur
Rehman on the security of NDC and t old hi m i"l lJmbai
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done by people who don't have fresh ideas. We also
discussed Ra ksho Bhawan I told him that attack on
Raksha 8hawan would not be effective as eVE!rybody
stayed inside. While vldeographlng the route from
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of Pri me Minl st er's residence. Abdurrahmiln
was not int erested in Raksha Shawano Abdurrahman
tol d me t hat a man fro m Rawalpindi was ready to
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India. He added that isaappllcati on was t urned
he had a long beard. Abdul' Rehman
"him to shave his beard and he had reappl ied forI
161. We also discussed about Oelhl Chabad house but
Abdurrahman seemed t o be more int erested in the
NDC. Abdurra hman hinted to me that his set up in
Nepal would alSO help Abdurrahman had been to
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Lashkar. Abdurmhman had a !iet upjn easterry_part: of
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Karachi setup and Nepal setup both run by We
also discussed Chabad Houses and t emples in
Pushkar .
162. I told Abdurrahman that best time to attack
Pushkar is ' .... il"lter as there Is a large number

touri sts at t hi s t i me. I also suggested to him we could '
hide th e weapon;; in surroundi ng mou ntain.
163 I told Abdur Rehm.an toat there 'Nas nothin g in
Goa . There was no to need to attack this place. We
wat ched Goa videos toget her. Abdu r ::{ehman kept
asking the development in Mumbai i nv esti gati on. We.
also loo ked up t he locat ions of t arget on Google
earth on the compurer of Abdur R!"hman. When
Abdur Rehman was arrested i n July 2009, [ came to
know t hat his wife had disposed all the suspect
material. After few days of meeting I SaJid i n

Lahore. Sajid told me that t he Denmark pr Oj ect was
postponed as there was lot of or essur e dlJ.e to
Humbai I star ted hi'!lI l ng doubts
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t hat LeT was coward and pl iable. J Wi]S
mentall y getting distanced from LeT. [ told Sajid
about the tr ip of India on t he behalf of Abdur
Rehman. Saji d di d not bel ieve it at the fi rst instance
and when I swor e that I had gone, he beC3me furious
and asked me did I go I t old him t hat Abdur Rehman
was i nter ested in NOC and he (Saji d) coul d also help,
Saj id refused ari d said he was not int erested at thi s
I did r"Iot tel l Sajid about my visit la
m yas Kashmlr i and also requested SaJid not to tell
Z<'! kl about my tr ip to I ndia. I had anot her meeting
with 5aj id in Rawalpindi. Saj i d said Haroon was
arrested and he had revealed about LeT's role in
Mumbai and l SI cooperation In it. SaJid asked me I
talked to Haroon about Mumba i attack, I told him
tha t I had done It only after t he attack . Saj id got
angry. Later In a meet i ng Saj ld t old me that
Zaki did not want me to work wi t h Abdur ReI1maD.
Sajid tol d me t hf.( Hel roon had re vealed about my
fee-on in r- Iurnbal and .:J dvised me not to st ay in
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said that Har aon had not revealed i! nything about
me. During this period 1 also met r"'aJor Iqbal .;It my
house. Iqbal told me not to contact him anymore as
Mumbaf investigation was getting bi gger and hotter.
Iqbal t old me that t he captured t'-1u mbai attacker had
revealed everyt hing.
164. I discussed about HarQon Wit h Abdur Renm(ln
and he told me t hat Haroan had been arrested in an
attempt to kidnap somebDdy. H2rroon was also
involved in ki dnapping of a hindu iilm producer of
Pzkist an and also the murder of General AI'l l and his
driver , 1 knew was '.''1 orking \ .... ith IIIYBS
Kashm ir i. Haroon had once asked me to survey a
lawyer 's house who could have been potential target
for kidnappi ng. Abdur Rehman had given my Glock
pistol t o Haroon. This pIstol was gi ven to me by Sajid
and I had requested Abdur Rehman to took for a
buyer fOi It. Abdur Rehman apologlzed fo r it but I
was very ang ry.

165. Meeting wlth.J,Jlyas Kashmiri ; On and iJround
May, 2009, along with Saulat Mamu arid Abdur
Rehman, I went to meellllyas Kashmiri in FATA arE! i3 .
Abduf Rehman had hired a car . Before reachmg FATA
at Banu we changed the number plate of the car. We
'.vent to Miranshah t o meet l!Iyas Kashmiri. We went
to an arms market where I Found a lot of foreigners

with arms ready to flight in Afghanistan. They include
Uzbek, AraD, Bosnii!ln, Pakistani and Afgans
We waited for i<aShi mirj to come at [he same
locat ion as we had met hi m t he l ast time. came in
a j eep with hiS gun men. I cou ld see a lot of suicide
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they were being prepared for some actions. We
stayed in t his locat ion fO' r one ni ght. in the meeting
with IHyas Kashmiri [ was told to concentrate on che
Denmark attack at the earliest. They even discussed
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166. After t his, ti ll my arrest I concent rated 0(1 the
Denmar k project. 1 was in regul ar touch with .Abdur
Rehman for the Denmark attack. Dr. Rana was also
informed on OUr' plan t o attack t he newspaper in
Denmark, 1 was in email as well as t elephonic contact
with Abdur Rehman. The outfit I'Ihi<:h Abdu( 8@bamn
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167. Visit to USA in June 2009 : I went to USA i n
June 2009, and met Rana [ told Rana about my
meet ings with Kashmi r! and my surveillance in India,
Rana seemed pl eased with my work In India. I was in
t ouch with Abdur Rehman@pasha and l'VIajor
Ali from US. Abdul" Rehman@Pasha also used to talk
to me on telephone and we had e-mail contact also.
In July' 2009 Sajld agai n contaLt:ed me on emall. He
used new email ID and contacted me on my e-mail .
Saji d wr ote to me t hat he had some new
plans and investments (anQcks) for India . He also
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168. On and around July2009 Sal aut c.alll":d me and
informed me about Abdur Rehman's arrest . SaJid also
wrote to me that ' Hashi m (Abdur r ahman) is with
Hamon' which mearn Abdur R: hman also has been
a rrested. Sajid asked me about Abdur Reh man's
number but I did not give It to him. Abdur Rehman
completely moved away fr om LeT In 2008. Rana
and Sajl d had tal ked t o each ot her couple of times irr
the past. Once Sajid had called Rana to express
gratitude for t he help he had provided for Mumbai
a ttacks.
169, Sajid wrot e to me that Zakl (macha) H(lfi z
Saeed (bada Chacha) both were in jail but were dOi ng
fi ne and Sajid had got cl earance to launch
a.t tack i n India. [ believe that Saj id' s reference to
'near Rahul city' meant a ci ty .i.n Gujarat. In Feb' 2009
Sajid had shown me a Google earth map of ,In oil
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refi nery and Saj id was keen to .;mack it . Saj i d InsIst ed
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that r would only gO" alter Ramza n. In August 2009, I
went to England and met Basharat (Passha) and
Sufiyaan (Simon) In Der by. Both of them Basharat
and Sufiyaan were f rom Kotal i area Pakistan area.
They knew lIIyas Kashmlrl from before. Basharat did
not have nice things to say about III'tas Kashmir!. He
told me tnat IIIyas Kash miri's son was misusing the
Jihad money. They also gave me :30me money and
s<Hd thai: only S_u[jyaao was ava ilable for Denmark
plot. From ther e I went to S'-Ieden and met F.omd at
Stockholm. Pasha and Kashmi ri had told me about
Far id wl"lo was actually from 1'-'l orocco. My second wife
Faiza was also from Morocco. Abdur Rehman had
writ t en to me that the Swedish man was native of M2
country. 1'012 was a reference to my wjfe Fa lza. Farid
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he was not available for Denmark Project. From
Sweden I went to Denmark and surveyed the
newspaper office I also surveyed surroundings and
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newspaper office and tol d t hem t hat 1 wanted to put
an ad for my immigration business. I gave them my
email accoun t WhlCh was used by Rana. Rana had
agreed t hat I could use t he immigrat ion business <!5
cover up. I .... ias In touch with Rana and with my fist
wife Sha-zia and Faiza t hrough emalls. I used to
contact Shilzla on the email account at
haidergilanil@hotmail,com. Th e emails used by Faiza
were ofaiza-a,hotmajl.coffi and faizagll aol@yroai l .com.
rawsal @hotmal1.com was one of the emails used
Abdur rahman. The email used by Saji d was
ger .some.books@yahQQ,com. One
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chaudharykharo@yahoQ,corn and the address
used by Major Sameer Ali chsameerali@yahQo,com.
From Denmark, [ drove to Germany and t ook a flight
to US from Fran kfurt I briefed Rana il bout my visit to
US, Sweden and Denmark. Rana told me that he ha j
repl ied to email 5ent by on my behilll
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visit to Ge: r many t1nd-'toRJ him that [ had gone there
to buy some for R.,na's; farm. ! wrote to
tl1at I had got same gift for him which he-
understood as the surveillance videos. wrote to
me that my tri p to I ndia had been cleared by Zaki
and Sailb and things were f.avorable to visit
India. ( told Pasha that Sajid me to go t o
India again a t wh ich Pasha was very sur pri sed,
170 . I had writte n t o Pasha that for D!' nrnark plot if
stronghold opt ion is not viabl e tn<! n '.'Ie could use the
suicide bombing. I had even myself for
the attac\< .
171. On 3 October, 2009 I was gOing to Paki sta n to
meet Abdur Rehmar1 8rid Sajid when I was arrested
from the airport. A camera mobil e phone and some
ot her stuff were r ecovered from my baggage.
172. rhe phol1e with the SIN card used by me
in India wa 5 seized from my posses5ion by the FBl at
the Chicago air port.
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not spoken o!l bout my work given by erther LeT or by
Naj ar {qbal or lIIyas Kashmiri or by Abdur
Rehman@Pasha to any person i n India during my
various t rips to your country . I was not given any
operationill work t herefore: there was rIO need to take
rhe hel p of any friend or associ ates_ Sometime I
commi tteCl small mistakes l i ke spca'<if"J Hindi . 90il19
to a mosque, going around Wi th raila ':.rhi ch cou ld
have exposed me. But luck1lV t his dla not happen.
174, On being asked I can identify t h ~ per sons and
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locations r have mentioned t o you in ! odia, Paki stan,
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USA and Oenm<lrk.
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175. On bei ng asked t he recordings dOfle by me are
not available except with LeT Or With Pasha or with
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the lSI. They might be keeping these In some
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computers. 1 can produce the camera or my mother
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in law which I used for my mi ssion. My Sony Er rkson
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Phone is With the FBI. 1 can i dent ify the
Phoneynd
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also the GPS i r1sc:LJmef"'lt ! used in Indl .!.
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