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Tha cc bn ! Chng ta tht dim phc khi vng t hanh kh pha Ty Bc Trung Hoa gi li cho chng ta mt Kit tc ca Thin Tng m chnh cc Thin gi Trung Hoa t th k 19 tr v trc thm ch cn cha nghe ni n tn l quyn TUYT QUN LUN (m trn u sch c ghi l : B- DT MA TUYT QUN LUN) May-mn lm sao khi m cc d bn TUYT QUN LUN c pht hin ti : ng n-Hong (Touen Houang _ Tun-Huang)

Ri n nm 1900 C th-gii Hc gi, nhng nh nghin cu Pht hc, nhng nh kho c bng hong sng st khi ng n-Hong c pht hin. i c mt kho tng tranh tng, ph iu, th tch c phi by ra n chong ngp. Trong hng ngn th tch c y c cc d bn TUYT QUN LUN

Cc bn i ! Ngi trong nh l nh nghin-cu ngi Php Paul Pelliot l ngi u tin "tng kim k" ci "kho DI LIU" qu bu ny trong 6 quyn sch ln: Les Grottes de Touen Houang. Paris 1914 - 1924. V tn ca 6 nguyn bn Hn vn TUYT QUN LUN l : 1. QUN HNH PHP VI HU DUYN V DANH THNG S TP y l bn c D.T. Suzuki gii thiu trong THIU THT DT TH (1935) 2. NHP L DUYN MN. 3. TUYT QUN LUN 4. T-MA HA THNG TUYT QUN LUN

5. TUYT QUN LUN (cng tn vi bn th 3) 6. TAM TNG PHP S B- T-MA TUYT QUN LUN. Nm 1973 Vin Nghin cu Thin Hc (Institute for Zen Studies) cho in phng nh v chuyn ng t Nht vn sang Anh ng. (mi quyn gi 100 USD). _________________

Thc khng ng ngh-thut iu khc v hi ha thi by gi (trc ngy ng n-Hong khp li) vt ln n tm cao y ! i s D.T. Suzuki cng a s cc nh hc gi u TIN rng y thc s l tc-phm ca T B- t-Ma. Ch c l loi mt vi -kin cho l do Ngi Php Dung (Ngu-u) vit thi th v/h cng xin gii thiu i nt v Ngi Php Dung vy : Trch dn:

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; C: frng; J: hy; 594-657; Thin s Trung Quc, ngi sng lp thin phi Ngu u. S l mn ca T t o Tn. Thu nh S theo hc Nho gio v nm 19 tui thng kinh s. V khng hi lng vi nhng g t c, S chuyn qua tham hc Pht php v n ni Ngu u trong hang gn cha U Th, ngy m tu tp thin nh. o hnh ca S cm ha c c th rng nn chng em hoa qu n cng dng. T o Tn nhn lc qua y xem kh tng bit trn ni c bc d nhn, ch thn ln ni tm S. S ngi thin khng n ai. T thy th bn hi: " y lm g?" S p: "Qun tm." T hi: "Ai qun, tm l vt g?" S nghe khng p c bn ng dy lm l, hi v bit c T l Thin s o Tn.

S ch T vo hang pha sau tm ngh. Thy th d lng xng, T ra v s, S hi: "Ngi vn cn ci sao?" T hi li: "Ci l ci g?" S khng p c. Mt lt sau, T vit ln ch ng ca S ch Pht (). S trng thy git mnh, T hi: "Vn cn ci sao?" S nghe bn lm l cu xin ch dy. T bn dy: "Phm trm ngn php mn ng v mt GC. Diu c nh h sa thy ni ngun tm. Tt c mn gii, nh, hu, thn thng bin ha, c thy u tm ngi... Khng c tam gii c th ra, khng c B- c th cu... Ch tm ngi t ti, ch khi tham sn, ch m lng lo bun, rng rang khng ngi, mc tnh tung honh, chng lm vic thin, chng lm vic c, i ng ngi nm, mt thy gp duyn thy u l diu dng ca Pht. V vui v khng lo bun nn gi l Pht." S hi: "Tm y , ci g l Pht? Ci g l tm?" T p: "Chng phi tm th khng hi Pht, hi Pht th chnh l tm." S hi: " khng khi qun hnh, khi gp cnh khi tm lm sao i tr?" T p: "Cnh duyn khng tt xu, tt xu khi ni tm, nu tm chng theo danh, vng tnh t u khi ? Vng tnh chng khi, chn tm mc tnh bit khp. Ngi ch ty tm t ti, chng cu i tr, tc gi l Php thn thng tr, khng i thay." S nhn y liu ng. S tr tr ti Ngu u sn, hc chng n rt ng. Sau c v quan thnh S n cha Kin S hong ha. S nhn li cu thnh n cha Kin S nhng ch mt nm sau (657), ngy 23 thng ging, S vin tch ti y, th 64 tui, 41 tui h.

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Trch dn: "Thu nh S theo hc Nho gio v nm 19 tui thng kinh s". iu ny cho chng ta thm tin rng TUYT QUN LUN l do Ngi Php-Dung vit v cch hnh vn, ging vn v kh cht u mang bng dng mt ngi Trung Hoa tinh thng Tam gio ch khng mang THN KH SM ST V NGN ca T t-Ma.

l tng ring ca v/h (y cm tnh, thiu khoa hc) ch v ngh rng tc phm ny l do Ngi Php Dung vit nn v/h mnh dn DCH U tc phm tuyt vi ny ! Du trng du sai ch mong GI CHO CC BN SUY T m thi. Xin ng ai cho l quan trng li ni ca mt ngi c n ba bn ci khng khng bng cp, khng hc lc, khng tu hnh, khng chng c "li qu gp nht dng-di mua vui cng c mt vi trng canh" (Nguyn-Du) Ht Phn Su Tm ( Nam Thin thc hin)

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o ln thm su, u diu m tch nhin qung i, chng th ly Tm m hiu, chng th ly li m gii. Nay th ly hai ngi, cng ni iu chn thc. S ch tn Nhp L, t gi l Duyn Mn. 1.1 By gi, Nhp L tin sinh tch lng chng ni, Duyn Mn bng ng dy tha vi Nhp L tin sinh: "Ci g gi l Tm, th no l An Tm?" p: "Ngi chng cn cho rng phi c ci Tm, cng chng c cho c an. Nh th gi l An ." 1.2 Hi: "Nu nh chng c Tm, lm sao hc o?" p: "o chng th ly Tm ngh bn c, th h cn Tm !" 1.3 Hi: "Nu chng ly Tm ngh bn, th ly g suy nim?" p: "C Nim t c Tm, c Tm t si o. V Nim tc V Tm, V Tm tc chn o vy". 1.4 Hi: "Tt c chng sinh thc u c Tm chng?" p: "Nu chng sinh thc c Tm, t sinh in o. Ch v ni V Tm m ly lm Tm nn sinh ra vng tng".

1.5 Hi: "V Tm c nhng g?" p: "V Tm tc l V Vt (khng c g c), V Vt tc l Thin chn (y chn thc mt cch t nhin), Thin chn tc i o". 1.6 Hi: "Vng Tng ca chng sinh dit c chng?" p: "Nh k thy Vng Tng, li thy (c th) dit c vng tng th chng th xa la c vng tng" 1.7 Hi: "K chng cn (cn) dit tr (vng tng) th hp o l chng?" p: "Nu ni HP vi BT HP l cng chng xa ri c Vng Tng". 1.8 Hi: "By gi th lm g?" p: "Chng c by gi".

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2.1 Duyn Mn hi: "Ni v bc Thnh nhn, v b (on) Php g, v c (c) Php g, m gi l Thnh?" Nhp L p: "Mt php chng b, mt php chng c, nn gi l Thnh vy." [Thnh nhn (arya): gic gi: k gic ng] 2.2 Hi: "Nu chng b chng c, cng phm phu th c khc g nhau?" p: "Chng th ging nhau c! Ti sao? Tt c phm phu v m lm nn cn c iu phi on b, v m lm nn cn c iu s c." 2.3 Hi: "Nay ni phm phu c iu s c, thnh nhn chng c g s c. Nh vy, C v BT C c g khc bit?" p: "Phm phu c iu s c tc l c m lm. Thnh nhn chng c g s c tc l khng m lm. Cho nn c m lm mi lun bn NG (ging) v BT NG (khc). Cn, khng m lm th (khng cn phn bit) v d (khng khc) vi v-bt-d (khng c g khng khc) g na".

2.4 Hi: "Nu chng khc nhau th ci tn Thnh nhn l g?" p: "Phm phu vi Thnh nhn, c hai ch l ci tn. Tn vn khng hai, chng c g khc bit. Ging nh ni lng ra, sng th (nhng iu khng c tht) y thi". 2.5 Hi: "Nh vy Thnh nhn cng nh lng ra, sng th (nhng g khng tht); tt c cui cng dn n ci Khng, th ly g dy ngi hc o?" p: "Ta ni lng ra Khng, ch chng ni ra cng khng c. Ngi ly th d l kh ." 2.6 Hi: "Khng c lng l v vi g? Ra v vi g?" p: "Ra v vi o, lng v vi Ng. V vy, Thnh nhn V Ng nn c o. Tri li, phm phu chp c Ng c Danh, ging nh c cho rng c lng ra, sng th vy!" 2.7 Hi: "Nu nh vy, o ng vi ci C , Ng ng vi ci Khng . Vi ci CKhng-Khng-C , s sinh ra kin chp h v (chng c chng khng) chng? p: "o chng l ci C , Ng cng khng phi l ci Khng . L ti lm sao? V Ra chng phi l trc Khng m nay C, nn chng th ni l C. Lng ra chng phi v trc C nay Khng, nn khng th ni l Khng. o cng vi Ng c th hiu ging nh cch th d !" [Kinh i Nit Bn (Nirvana Sutra) c li Pht dy: (i Tng Kinh quyn 12 tp 374 trang 422 C): "Nhng g trc c m nay khng c; nhng g trc khng c m nay c th u chng (tht) c".] 2.8 Hi: "V ngi cu o, ch ring mt ngi c o chng? Hoc tt c u c? Hoc mi k mi c? Hoc tt c chung li m c? Hoc bn lai sn c hay do tu tp ri s thnh?" p: "Tt c nh ngi ni u khng phi. Ti lm sao? Nu ch ring mt ngi c thi, o t khng cng khp. Nu tt c chng nhn u c c (ch c mt trng thi trong t nhin, trng thi c o), o t qu ngho nn. Nu mi ngi mi c (c s khc bit ln nhau, khng l Nht th), o t c nhiu con ng (trong khi o ch c Mt). Nu cng chung li m c, cc phng tin u thnh v dng. Nu nh bn lai sn c, (bch gii) vn hnh ( (trm gii), vn c hnh) ch u l h thit thi sao? Nu tu m sau thnh c, th cng ch l gi to khng tht vy!".

2.9 Hi: "Cui cng, cn ni g?" p: "Xa mi tnh ton so snh, ct t mi tham dc". [Kinh Lng Gi : "La tt c cn lng (tnh ton, so snh) th khng ngn thuyt, khng ngn thuyt th v sanh. V sanh th khng dit, khng dit th tch dit. Tch dit th t tnh Nit Bn". Trang 319]

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3.1 Duyn Mn hi: "Phm phu c thn, nn nhn nghe cm bit, thnh nhn cng c thn, nn cng nhn nghe cm bit. C ai khc bit trong?" Nhp L p: "Phm phu mt thy, tai nghe, thn cm, bit. Thnh nhn khng nh vy, thnh nhn thy ci thy khng phi ca mt (kin phi-nhn-kin), nghe ci nghe khng phi ca tai (vn phi-nh-vn), cm ci cm khng phi ca thn (cm phi-thncm) cho n bit ci bit khng phi ca (tri phi--tri). L ti sao? V vt qua nhng tnh ton o lng ri vy". 3.2 Hi: "Ti sao kinh ni Thnh Nhn v kin, vn, gic, tri (khng c ci thy, nghe, cm, bit ca phm phu)?" p: "Thnh nhn khng c ci kin, vn, gic, tri ca phm phu, khng c ngha l khng c th gii s th (cnh gii t nhin v v tr) ca thnh nhn. ( l v) khng gi ci chp Hu V, xa la tnh phn chia so snh vy." 3.3 Hi: "Phm phu tht c ci gi l th gii s th ca phm trn chng?" p: "Thc khng c khi cn m, v bn lai tnh lng tch dit, tuy nhin v m m tnh ton, so snh thnh ra sai lnh vy". 3.4 Hi: "Con khng hiu, ci gi l: s thy ca thnh nhn khng phi l ci thy ca mt, s hiu ca thnh nhn khng phi l ci hiu ca thc?" p: "Php th kh thy, c th th d th ny hiu: nh ly nh sng thm su chiu soi mt vt. Ging nh l (c vt) chiu ri v (c vt) b chiu. Khng th c con mt m t c ci kh nng thy c. n nh ci l m Dng trong mun vt, ging nh (mt bn l) ci bit (v mt bn l) ci b bit. (Thnh ra cng) khng c mt ci thc m t n c c ci kh nng hiu c".

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4.1 Duyn Mn ng dy hi: "Cui cng o thuc ai?" p: "Cu cnh khng thuc v g c, ging nh chn khng chng l thuc vo u. o m cn l thuc buc rng tc l c cn c khai, c ch c khch". 4.2 Hi: "Gc ca o l g? Ci Dng ca php l g?" p: "H khng l gc ca o, tt c MI hin tng u l ci dng ca o Php". 4.3 Hi: "Trong ai l k to by?" p: "Khng ai to by, Php gii tnh t nhin". 4.4 Hi: "Chng phi chnh l do Nghip lc ca chng sinh m lm ra ?" p: " mang nghip, nn b nghip rng buc, t m ra chng phi khc. Lm sao rnh rang m khi bin, gom ni, nh tri dng t c". 4.5 Hi: "Thng nghe B Tt do m ha thn, khng phi l do Lc thn thng sao?" p: "Phm phu c nghip chng u, thnh nhn chng c nghip chng. Do , c hn c khc nhng cha hn l ci o t nhin. Cho nn Kinh (Lng Gi) ni: c bit bao thn xc do ha sinh, tht ra chng g khc hn l do tm to by". 4.6 Hi: "Nu ni Khng l gc ca o, Khng l Pht chng?" p: "Nh th!" 4.7 Hi: "Nu Khng l Pht, Thnh nhn sao chng chuyn bo chng sinh nim Khng, m li dy chng sinh Nim Pht?" p: "V chng sinh ngu si, nn mi ch dy Nim Pht. Cn vi ngi c o tm, th dy Qun thc tng ci thn ny, cng nh Qun Pht vy. Ni Thc Tng tc l ni Khng, l ni V Tng vy".

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5.1 Duyn Mn ng dy hi: "Thng nghe ngoi o cng c Ng thng, cc bc B tt cng c nh th. C hai u c (thn thng) th c g khc bit?" Nhp L tr li: "Khng ging. L ti sao? Ngoi o cho rng h c t c, B tt th khng nh vy, bi v t c l V Ng ri vy". 5.2 Hi: "Lc bt u, phm mi hc o, l nhp th cha trn, chn nh mi thm mt cht, hiu s si v diu l. So vi nhng k ngoi o c c ng thng, th sao m hn c?" p: "Trc hay gi ly phn nhp l d rt nh b . C li g v vic s dng ci Ng thng kia?" 5.3 Hi: "Nu c Ng thng th i s tn knh, i s coi trng. Trc: bit vic cha n, Sau: bit vic qua. T phng nga ly nhng h lm sai quy, h chng l hn khng?" p: "Chng phi l ti sao? Tt c ngi i, tm a hng v hnh tng, tham buc vo ca ci c nghip. ( l) theo h ngy m lm lon chn chnh. Nhng k d c c ci thn thng ca Thng , ci ti bin thuyt ca Hnh Tinh, m khng thu hiu c ci L ca Thc tng th cng (ging nh Thng v Hnh Tinh) u chng thot cht bi nn t sp vy". [Thng : nhn vt trong Ch Php V Hnh Kinh, i Tng Kinh, quyn 15; Hnh Tinh : nhn vt trong Nit Bn Kinh, i Tng Kinh, quyn 12]

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6.1 Duyn Mn hi: "o ch c trong linh hnh chng? Hay o cng trong c cy c na?" Nhp L ni: "o chng thuc v ci g c gii hn.". 6.2 Hi: "o bao la nh vy, th ti sao git ngi c ti, cn git tho mc v ti?" p: "Khi ni c ti v khng c ti, th u l ni theo tng s vic ring bit, khng phi l chnh o. l bi v th nhn khng t c ci L ca o, m lm m cho rng c ci thn ng, st tc l c tm (c ), tm kt thnh nghip, nn ni l c ti. Tho mc v tnh, trc sau vn hp vi ao. L V Ng, nn chng k n ngi hi chng. V vy, nn ni l chng lun bn v c ti hay khng c ti. Cho nn V Ng l hp vi o, coi thn hnh nh cy c, d c b ct cht th cng nh l cy rng (b

cht). V vy nn Ngi Vn Th S Li dng kim chm c C m, ng Qut cm dao m c Thch Ca. C hai (trng hp) u l thun hp vi o. C hai (Vn Th v ng Qut) u chng qu v bt sinh, liu tri c tnh h khng huyn ha (ca mi hin tng). V vy, nn ni l khng lun bn v c ti hay khng c ti vy". [Trong i Bo Tch Kinh (Ratnakutah) c ni i khi nghe Pht thuyt php, c nm trm v Nhp Lu hiu c kip trc ca mnh phm nhng i ti, cho nn mang vng tm l mnh s khng bao gi gic ng c. B tt Vn Th hiu c Pht mun dy cho h mt bi hc lm sng t nhng vng tng , nn ngi ng ln cm kim chm c Pht. Pht bn cn li m dy, i ni: Bn lai v Ng, ch v chp trc m c thn ng, ng kin, c ti, phi ti, v.v... Nu ngi mun hi Pht th ch cn trong tm hin ln , l tn hi n Pht,... cn t l v tm th siu vit thin c,... (nh trng hp ngi Vn Th lc ny)] [ng Qut Ma La (Angulimala), tn mt nhn vt trong Tp A Hm Kinh (Samyutta Nikaya). ng Qut l g B La Mn thnh X V. Ban u, tin theo t thuyt ni l h git c 1000 ngi ri, cht ngn tay x lm xu i u th c sanh ln cnh Thin ng. Khi git c 999 ngi ri, cn thiu mt, ng Qut nh git m v rt theo m git. c Pht bn em lng thng xt nn hin ra bn ng, ng Qut git. ng Qut lin rt theo Pht, Pht ch bc m hn khng nm bt c. i cho n lc hn kit sc, c Pht mi dng li cm ha. Sau ng Qut quy y, xut gia v cng c qu A La Hn. Hai in tch trn y cng l ngha ca cu thoi u ni ting ca Thin gii. Phng Pht st Pht, phng T st T, ch Tr Hu Bt Nh tuyt i, Bnh ng Tr, V Phn Bit Tr,... khng xem c Pht l cu cnh.] 6.3 Hi: "Nu tho mc t lu hp o, th sao trong kinh khng thy ghi r c cy thnh Pht m ch ghi ngi ta (thnh Pht)?" p: "Khng phi ch ghi c ngi, cn c ghi c tho mc na. Kinh (Hoa Nghim) ni: ch trong mt ht bi cng c tt c th gii vn tng. Kinh (Duy Ma Ct) li cng ni: Tt c th gii vn tng u nh vy, tt c chng sinh cng cng nh th. l khng hai, l v sai bit vy".

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7.1 Duyn Mn hi: "Nu theo yu l Chn Khng, th ly g chng ng?" Nhp L ni: "Tm trong tt c mi hnh tng (Sc) , chng ng bng t li ca mnh". [Sc (Rpa): Sc php v Tm php, tt c hnh tng ca t th v cnh gii ngoi ti] 7.2 Hi: "Tm trong tt c mi hnh tng l g? Chng ng bng li ca mnh l g? Th no

l sc trung cu? Th no l Ng trung chng?" p: "Chn Khng v Hnh Tng vn l mt, Ng ngn v Tu chng cng chng hai". 7.3 Hi: "Nu tt c Php gii vn vt l Khng, th sao Thnh nhn th thng sut, Phm phu th ngng tr?" p: "M ng nn ngng tr, Chn tnh nn thng sut". 7.4 Hi: "Nu (tt c php gii) l khng, th th no l v minh? Nu v minh ri th lm sao li thnh khng cho c?" p: "Phm ni n m th bt gic cht khi, bt gic li ng. Nhng k thc trong tnh Khng th chng c mt ci g gi l m vng c". Khi m vng th c khi c ng, c ci gi l v minh c iu gi l Pht thnh... cn trong Khng Tnh (cnh gii ca ngi gic ng, trng thi thanh tnh, Nit Bn,...) th tt c php gii u ph by thc tnh, th chng cn g gi l h gi, h vng na. [So on ny vi Tm Kinh Bt Nh: "Tng Khng ca cc php th chng sanh chng dit, chng tnh, chng nh,... trong tnh Khng ny th chng c ci g gi l hnh tng, cm th, t tng,..."> 7.5 Hi: "Nu (php gii) thc l Khng, th tt c chng sinh u khng cn tu o. L ti sao? v t nhin tnh (ca chng sinh l Khng ri) l th". p: "Tt c chng sinh, nu thc thng gii ci L tnh Khng ri th qu l khng cn tu o g c. Nhng ch v chn Khng m chng (gic ng c) Khng nn mi sinh ra nghi hoc vy". 7.6 Hi: "Nu nh th, t la m hoc l o. Th ti sao li cn ni tt c u khng phi l o?" p: "Khng phi vy, khng phi m hoc l o, cng khng phi la m hoc l o. L ti sao? Nh ngi say th khng tnh, tnh th khng say. Cho nn, khng phi la say m c tnh, hay khng say (ng ng say) tc l tnh". 7.7 Hi: "Nh khi ngi ta tnh ri th say u?" p: "Nh lt ngc li bn tay. Trong khi tay cn ang lt nh vy, khng cn hi tay u". [M tnh ch l hai mt ca mt thc th, nh b tri b mt ca bn tay. Ch v m nn khng nhn ra c chn tm vn trong sng ngay trong mnh.]

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8.1 Duyn Mn hi: "Nu nh khng t c chn l , c th thuyt php gio ha chng sinh c chng?" Nhp L ni: "Khng c. L ti sao? Mt mnh cn cha t, h tr c mt ngi ?" 8.2 Hi: "(Tuy cha t l nhng) c tn tr lc, ty theo hon cnh m ha , cng khng c sao?" p: "Nu t o L, th gi l Tn Lc. Cn cha t c L o, th gi l V Minh Lc (sc mnh ca u m). L ti sao? v (ci sc mnh u m ) ch gip cho phin no tng trng m thi". 8.3 Hi: "Tuy khng c kh nng mang chn l ha cho ngi, th cng dy chng sinh lm Thp thin, Ng gii, an nh nhn thin. H khng c li hay sao?" p: "Chng nhng i vi chn l tuyt i l v ch, m cn khin tn hi gp i. L ti sao? V t hm mnh ri li cn hm ngi. T hm ngha l t cn tr mnh vi o. Hm ngi, ngha l cng khng gip ngi thot khi lun hi lc o vy." [Thp thin: khng git ngi, khng trm cp, khng dm dc, khng di tr, khng hai li, khng c khu, khng hoang ngn, khng tham dc, khng sn hn, khng t kin. Ng gii: khng git ngi, khng trm cp, khng di tr, khng dm lon, khng nghin ngp.] 8.4 Hi: "Pht khng thuyt rng c ng tha khc nhau hay sao?" p: "Pht chng dng tm khi ni v cc php mn khc bit. Ch v chng sinh, t tm hin ln h vng. Cho nn Kinh (Lng Gi) ni: Nu nh tm ngi trng lng chng cn g, th chng cn xe (tha) ln ngi ci xe (tha gi), khng cn lp ra tha no na cho nn Nh Lai gi l Nht tha vy." [Kinh Lng Gi: "t Ch Thin tha, Phm tha, Thanh Vn tha, Duyn Gic tha n Pht tha m cn tm phn bit th cha phi l ti diu. Nu tm kia dit ht th chng cn tha (xe) v tha gi (ngi ci xe) na, chng lp tha, nn Nh Lai ni l Nht tha"]

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9.1 Duyn Mn hi: "Ti sao ngi hc o chn chnh chng c ngi bit n, chng c ngi nhn ra?"

Nhp L p: "K bn cng chng nhn ra c ca bu, ngi gi tr khng th hiu c bc chn nhn." 9.2 Hi: "Th gian c ngi ngu ti, chng theo chnh l, bn ngoi th uy nghi, chuyn trng a v v ca ci, li c nhiu ngi c nam ln n gn gi?" p: "Nh dm n th mi gi bn nam nhn, tht thi th rui ko li. V th nn ni tn v vic i i vy".

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[bt u on ny, dnh cho bc B tt cc tng mc cao thc chng V Ng rt ro v sau cng, thc ti siu vit Ti Hu v phn bit] 10.1 Duyn Mn hi: "Th no gi l "B tt hnh phi o (tri o)" t thnh Pht o?" Nhp L p: "V phn bit thin c!". [Kinh Duy Ma Ct: "Ngi Vn Th hi ng Duy Ma Ct rng: -Lm th no B tt thng t Pht o? -B tt thc hnh Phi o (tri o) l thng t Pht o. -Th no l B tt thc hnh Phi o? -Nu B tt gy nm i ti m khng bun gin, trong a ngc m khng c ti cu, trong loi sc sanh m khng c v minh kiu mn,... hin vo hng chng ma m vn theo tr tu Pht, hin lm tt c phin no m lng thng thanh tnh,...".] 10.2 Hi: "Th no l V Phn Bit (thin c)?" p: "Bt c trong trng hp no cng khng dy ng tm". 10.3 Hi: "Cng khng c c Ch th hnh ng na chng?" p: "Chng phi l c-hay-khng-c ch th". 10.4 Hi: "(Thc hnh v phn bit thin c) l khng c tri gic chng?" p: "C tri gic nhng V Ng". 10.5 Hi: "V Ng (khng c ch th) th lm sao c tri gic?" p: "Tri gic t v tnh".

10.6 Hi: "C ni n Ng l sinh ra iu cn tr chng?" p: "Nu ch bit n ci tn th c g l tr ngi. Ch s rng trong tm sinh ra vic m thi". 10.7 Hi: "(Tm) sinh s th c tr ngi chng?" p: "Khng tr ngi th v s. v s, th cn hi tr ngi ci g?" 10.8 Hi: "Nh trit gim ht mi s khng cn ci g (trong tm), th Hnh Phi o l lm sao?" p: "Nu thc s v s, th ngi cn c khi tm cho s sinh ra lm g?" 10.9 Hi: "C nhn duyn no th st sinh c?" p: "La ng t ni, gi mnh b cy, ni sp th, nc trn cn trng. Tm ging c nh vy, th c git ngi cng kh hp. Cn nu tm cn do d, phn bit sng cht git hi, trong cn tm cha tn dit, th (git) mt con kin cng l ct vo mnh ngi ri vy". 10.10 Hi: "Trong nhn duyn no th trm cp c?" p: "Ong hi hoa bn h, chim s ngm ht ngoi sn, b gm u bn m, nga nhai la ngoi ng. Tt c u chng bit g n vt g, ca ai. Hp c nh vy th c vc c ni non i cng ng, cn nu khng c nh th, th (ly trm) mt ngn l nh nh u kim cng ct khin ngi lm n l vy". 10.11 Hi: "Trong nhn duyn no th hnh dm c?" p: "Tri ph ly t, Dng hp vi m, nc dt t l r, sui tun theo dng. Tm m ng nh vy, th chng ch no m hnh ng gp tr ngi. Cn nu cn sinh tnh phn bit (vui thch, xc ng,...) th (hnh lc) vi v nh cng khin tm ngi hoen bn vy". 10.12 Hi: "Cn c nhn duyn no th vng ng c?" p: "C ni m nh khng c ngi ni, c li m chng c tm , thanh nh ting chung (v g m ku, ch chng v chung mun ln ting), ging nh m gi (gi thi v c vt cn m thnh m ch chng v gi c ging ring ca gi). Tm m ng c nh vy th li ni n Pht cng khng cn. Cn khng c nh vy th cho n li xng tng c Pht, cng ch l nhng li vng ng m thi".

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11.1 Duyn Mn ng dy hi: "Nu nh khng cn Thn Kin (ci Ng v thn xc), th (ai) i ng ngi nm?" p: "C i, ng, ngi, nm, lm g phi chp trc l c thn xc v ci Ng". [Cc Thin s thng lp li cu ny. Xut x c th thy trong kinh Bch Thin Tng Bt Nh (Satasa Hasrika Rajnaparamita): "B tt an tr trong thn th (vn c) cm th, suy ngh, v (i i) vi vn php, nhng khng khi nim phn bit i i vi thn th, cm th, tm v vn php,... Khi B tt i, B tt bit mnh i, khi ng, B tt bit mnh ng, khi ngi bit mnh ngi, khi nm bit mnh nm, khi bun, bit mnh bun, khi tc gin bit mnh tc gin, khi vng tm bit mnh vng tm, khi m lm bit mnh m lm,... m khng c chp trc v thng ti l Khng v V Ng. Chng sinh th khng bit mnh ti l Khng v khng thy ci L V Ng ca thn th, cm th, tm , v vn php,...] 11.2 Hi: "Nu khng cn thn kin, th cn c th suy t v ngha l c sao?" p: "Nu cn Tm chp trc, th khng suy ngh, cng vn l C. Nu hiu c l V Tm, th d c suy t n ci g chng na cng vn l Khng. L ti lm sao? ging nh Thin s khi tnh ta m cn khi tm l, nh gi mnh tuy lon ng m V Tm".

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12.1 Duyn Mn hi: "Nu c k mi hc o, bng gp nhn duyn c ngi mun hi, phi i tr th no cho hp o?" p: "Nhng iu chng cn phi i tr. L ti sao? Nu trnh c th trnh, khng trnh c th nhn; Nhn nhn c th nhn nhn, khng nhn nhn c th c khc". 12.2 Hi: "Nh m khc, th cng vi ngi c kin chp v thn ng c g khc bit?" p: "Nh di g chung, ting vang t nhin pht ra. H tt phi c ci Ng no ht. Ngi nh sp cht m cn km tm, cn rng chu ng, th cng ch i n vic duy tr ci ng to tng kia m thi".

12.3 Hi: "Ngi m khc lc thm thit, t trong c khi ng tm tnh. H ng vi ting chung vang ?" p: "Ni ng hay bt ng, u l do ngi a s v c vng tng, ngh suy, so snh nn mi c cu hi . Cn nu khng cn tm phn bit, th o th vn t nhin". 12.4 Hi: "Thnh nhn binh kh khng th hi c, kh khng lm cong mm c, vt cht chng khin hng th, tm chng dy ng ni. Nh th l th no?" p: "Nu thu hiu rng tt c mi php u v ng (khng c tht) th c ting hay khng c ting, c ng hay bt ng, u hp vi l o, chng g cn tr c".

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13.1 Duyn Mn hi: "Con thy c ngi hc o, chng chu chuyn cn tinh tin, gi gii lut; khng cn mn gia sc uy nghi; chng ha chng sinh, c t t pht ph, l ngha g?" p: "Mun mt ht ci tm phn bit, mun dt tt c mi quan nim hu thng (ch hu kin). Th (b ngoi) nh l c v pht ph nhn lng nh vy, nhng tht ra bn trong th chuyn cn khng gin on vy". [Ch Hu Kin: Cc quan nim v hu (thng): c thn ng, c hnh tng mu sc,... nh Thn kin, Vng kin, Hu kin. Khi ch Kin dng mt mnh n c ngha l vng kin, hu kin,...] 13.2 Hi: "Nh v hnh gi , li sinh ra ci tiu nhi chi kin. Th h li ni c l c th dt b c (tt c mi vng) kin hay sao?" p: "Hy tr b vng kin ca ngi, lo g ngi khc sinh (hay khng sinh). Nh c va ra khi vc su, h lo ngi bt c c ght n hay khng". 13.3 Hi: "Nu nh th, th ch li mnh hi ngi, h gi c l bc i s sao?" p: "Nu ngi khng sinh vng kin, th tt nhin n chng sinh. Nay ngi lo suy v vic n sinh, th chnh l ngi t sinh, ch khng ai vo y." 13.4 Hi: "Trong, thng t gio l i tha. Ngoi, hin uy nghi Tiu tha. L lm tn hi Php no?" p: "Nay ngi li mun bt ng gi chi tr con nt chng! C ch g i vi l". [Lm hi Php no?: cch ni bng by ngc ngo ca Thin gia, c ngha: "l theo

Php mn no?" ] 13.5 Hi: "Nh bc i s tr b c ht nhng vng tng , th ai c th nhn ra? ai c th hiu c?" p: "Ngi chng ng th hiu c, ngi hnh tr th nhn ra c". 13.6 Hi: "Nh v i s , c th ha chng sinh chng?" p: "C nht nguyt no m khng chiu? C n la no m khng sng?" 13.7 Hi: "Dng phng tin no?" p: "Chnh trc khng phng tin". 13.8 Hi: "Nu khng c phng tin, th lm sao li ch cho chng sinh?" p: "Vt n nn c tn, vic qua nn p ng. Khng c tm sp by, d on tnh ton". 13.9 Hi: "Con nghe ni Nh Lai by ngy t duy mi khi pht ra phng tin ( ha chng sinh). Sao by gi li ni l chng c tm sp by, tnh ton?" p: "Cnh gii ch Pht khng th suy t, phn tch tm hiu hay qun tng m bit c." 13.10 Hi: "Nh vy, Pht cng ni di chng?" p: "Chn tht khng h vng". 13.11 Hi: "Ti sao kinh ni t duy (Nh Lai by ngy t duy mi khi pht ra phng tin cu ). Nay ni khng t duy?" p: "Ch l phng tin ha m thi". 13.12 Hi: "Phng tin ca ch Pht v theo l no m sinh?" p: "Ch Pht chng sinh, ch v theo tm (chng sinh) m sinh. Ty duyn m ha vn vt nhng bn lai Php Pht khng c tn".

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14.1 Duyn Mn hi: "Con khng bit, th no gi l Pht? Th no gi l o? Th no gi

l bin ha? Th no gi l thng tr?" Nhp L p: "Gic ng c v vt th gi l Pht. Thng sut c tt c th gi l o. Php gii xut sinh l Bin ha. Cu cnh tch dit gi l Thng tr". 14.2 Hi: "Ti sao gi tt c cc php u l Pht php?" p: "(Khng nhng tt c cc php u l Pht php) m c nhng g khng phi l php (phi php), nhng g khng phi l phi php (phi phi php), cng u l Pht php c". 14.3 Hi: "Ci g tn l Php? Ci g tn l phi php? Ci g tn l phi-php phi-phi-php?" p: "Nhng g l php th tn l php (xc nh), nhng g khng phi l php th tn l phi-php (ph nh). Cn nhng g khng th suy ngh cn lng i i c, th c tn l phi php phi phi php". 14.4 Hi: "Ai chng minh cho li ". p: "Li chng ni n ci Ai, th ni g n ci chng". 14.5 Hi: "Khng c Ai th lm sao c thuyt?" p: "Chng c Ai, chng c Thuyt, tc l chnh thuyt". 14.6 Hi: "Ci g gi l t thuyt?" p: "L ngn thuyt m c sp t tnh ton". 14.7 Hi: " l s sp tnh ca ngi ta, cn th no mi l khng sp tnh?" p: "Sp t tnh ton th ch l li sung, cn trong li chng c li, th tnh ton cng chng c". 14.8 Hi: "C nh li , th tt c chng sinh bn lai gii thot?" p: " chng b buc ct, th lm sao cn c ngi gii thot". 14.9 Hi: "Php tn l g?" p: " chng cn c Php, th cn lm g c tn!" 14.10 Hi: "Nh thuyt , con cng thm kh phn gii". p: "Thc khng c php no phn gii, ngi ch cu phn gii".

14.11 Hi: "Mc ch cui cng l sao?" p: "Khng bt u, chng chm dt!". 14.12 Hi: "Khng c c nhn qu, c chng?" p: "Khng gc tc l khng ngn". 14.13 Hi: "Ly g lm li chng?" p: "Chn thc khng chng thuyt". 14.14 Hi: "Th th lm sao hiu c, nhn ra?" p: "Hiu tt c cc php nh n l th. Thy tt c cc php u bnh ng". 14.15 Hi: "Tm no th hiu c, mt no th thy c?" p: "Hiu bng v tri, thy bng v kin". 14.16 Hi: "Ai ni li ?" p: "Nh ta va hi ". 14.17 Hi: "Th no l Nh-ta-va-hi-?" p: "Ngi t qun ly cu hi, s hiu c li p". 14.18 Nghe n Duyn Mn suy i ngh li ti nhiu ln, ri tch lng khng ni. Nhp L tin sinh hi: "Sao ngi khng ni?" Duyn Mn tha: "Con khng thy c c mt php, d nh nh ht bi, m c th bn lun c". Lc , Nhp L tin sinh lin ni vi Duyn Mn: "Nay ngi ging nh l k thy c ci l chn tht ri ".

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15.1 Duyn Mn hi: "Ti sao con t thy, ri li thy nh l khng?"

Nhp L ni: "Ci thy ca ngi lc ny l khng thy c mt Php no ht. Ging nh ngoi o, tuy hc c php n hnh m vn cha th mt c bng, lp c du". [(V hu nht php gi), thy ci Khng, mi ch l phn gic cha phi l ton gic, nh mi hc c php n thn nhng vn cn l bng] 15.2 Duyn Mn hi: "Lm sao c c cch tiu vong c hnh ln bng?" Nhp L ni: "Bn v tm cnh, ngi ch khi sinh quan nim rng c sinh c dit." [Bn v Tm Cnh: Gc vn khng c c Tm (ch th) ln Cnh (i tng), v Pht tnh bn lai vn tch lng sng ngi, chng sinh v m vng, nn b che m, v vy ng c sinh ra ci quan nim rng c sinh hay c dit (mc khi sinh dit chi kin).] 15.3 Hi: "L phm phu nn hi, l thnh nhn nn thuyt?" p: "C nghi nn hi, c gii p nghi ngi nn thuyt". 15.4 Hi: "Con nghe rng thnh nhn khng hi m t thuyt. gii thch iu g? C php thuyt c chng? Hoc v thy c iu h nghi ca ngi?" p: "Tt c u nh ty bnh m cho thuc. Nh khi c ting sm st, t phi c ting vang di vy". [Nng theo li Pht thuyt th Kinh Pht thng gi l Thp Nh B Kinh. Trong Thp Nh B Kinh, th Pht ni kinh v ba l do chnh: 1. Pht nng theo mnh m thuyt; 2. Pht nng theo ngi ta m thuyt; 3. Pht va nng theo mnh v ngi m thuyt. y, Pht khng i hi m t thuyt, thuc v b Udana (T thuyt), v 11 b khc] 15.5 Hi: "c Pht Nh Lai chng c tm m sinh, vy th v c duyn no m sinh ra i?". p: "Th gii thi bnh, hu duyn m c Thy sinh". [C Thy (Thy tho): Theo truyn thuyt, thi thi bnh ca th gii, th c xut hin ging c Thy mc.] 15.6 Hi: "c Nh Lai khng c ci mng phi tn, th ti sao li cht?". p: "Th gian khi gp nn i, l duyn cho ng cc dit tiu".

15.7 Hi: "Con nghe c Pht thng (cho chng sinh) m khi nh, v lng t bi m ha chng sinh, (Pht php) ln lao chng g cn tr, lm sao li ging vi c Thy c?". p: "nh l Php thn, Bo Thn l nhc thn t i. p ng theo tng trng hp th gi l Ha Thn. Php thn th khng b Nhn qu tri buc, Ha Thn th khng v nhn duyn m lu. Xut hin hay mt i u thng sut an nhn, v vy nn gi l v ngi (khng cn tr)". 15.8 Hi: "Th no l bi (xt thng)?". p: "Nh Ha Thn th khng suy l, th hp chn khng, thng vn vt th v tm (khng c lng thin lch). V th m gi l Bi". 15.9 Hi: "Chng sinh tu o n lc no th c ging nh Nh Lai?". p: "Nu khng liu ng, th tu o mun kip nh ct sng Hng cng khng . Cn nu liu ng, ci thn ny ca chng sinh tc l Nh Lai. Th cn bn g n vic c ging nh hay khng ging nh (Nh Lai)". 15.10 Hi: "C nh li , th tht d c qu Nh Lai. Ti sao li cn ni (c Pht) tu ti ba i kip?". p: "Tht rt kh". 15.11 Hi: "Nu chng ng, thn ny tc l (Nh Lai). Ti sao cn ni l kh?". p: "Khi tm d, dit tm kh. Cho rng c thn th d, khng cho l c thn th kh. Hu th d, v th kh. V vy, nh l cng phu huyn diu th kh hiu, chn l k diu th kh hp. Bt ng tc l chn, tam thnh kh theo." 15.12 n , Duyn Mn qut ln, thanh trn mi hng. Bng nhin, m bt, khot nhin i ng. Huyn Quang tnh tr, phn chiu v nghi. Ln u bit hc o tht kh, mng m tiu tan. Ri cao ging ni: "Lnh thay, lnh thay, nh tin sinh khng ni m ni, t khng nghe m nghe. Ni nghe hp nht, th tch lng khng li. Khng bit tin sinh t tn cho nhng cu vn p va qua l g?" 15.13 Lc , Nhp L tin sinh, thn an bt ng, nhng mt khng ni, lic quanh bn hng, ha h ci vang. Ri ni vi Duyn Mn: "Phm n chn cng l vi diu, th khng cn vn t. Nhng cu khi trc ngi hi, u do tm ngh suy tnh ton m ra. Mng th a oan, tnh ri th chng c. Ngi mun truyn lu i, nn i t tn gi du. Th gi l Tuyt Qun Lun vy". * Duyn Mn Lun mt quyn. A... Ch Trng X L, mi ngi gi mt quyn gio xt n cui.

[Theo n Hong Di Th Tng Mc Tc Dn (trang 271) c ch thch l cui bn Tuyt Qun Lun cn c nm bn lun ny c sao chp li l nm Trinh Nguyn th Mi (Triu i vua c Tn nh ng), tc l nm 795 theo Dng Lch] ________________ KINH LNG GI (Trch) Ny Mahamati, c nhng ngi s kh nn ny sinh ra phn bit t sinh nn cu tm Nit Bn, m chng hiu rng sanh t Nit Bn, vn chng th tch ri. Ri n khi nhn thy tt c cc php u chng c tht th h li tng rng Nit Bn l ci h v, ni mi cn trn, cnh gii u tiu ma. Ny Mahamati, h khng thc ng ra rng Nit Bn chnh l s t gic thnh tr ca tng thc chuyn. V vy, phm phu ni rng c ba tha m khng bit ch l cc trng thi ca tm lng. Ny Mahamati, phm phu khng hiu c li dy ca cc Nh Lai, hin ti, qu kh v tng lai, rng tt c th gii ngoi ti u ch l cnh gii ca t tm (ngoi tm ra, khng c mt cnh gii no ht), nn h cho rng, ngoi tm ra cn c mt cnh gii ngoi ti. V vy, Mahamati, h t tri buc vo dng sinh t lun hi vy. Li na, theo li dy ca ba i ch Pht th vn php chng sanh. V ti sao? V chng ch l s by hin ca t tm, nn khng c mt t tnh no ht. Ny Mahamati, cc tnh chng sanh, cc php cng ch nh sng th, sng nga; th nhng bn phm phu ngu si chng ng c s sai lm ca mnh nn cng sanh vng tng k tr. Ny Mahamati, cc php chng sanh th thuc v cnh gii t gic tr hu, ch khng phi thuc v th gii nh nguyn, phn bit ca bn phm phu ngu n (c kin chp sanh dit tr...)

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