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Interviewees full name/place of birth/date of birthPatricia Rose Thompson 8-26-34 Salt Lake City, Utah Came to Las Vegas when she was 3 yrs old. Dad was working for international harvester in SLC, needed a man to take over shop in Las Vegas. Thats where he worked until he retired. Parents: Fathers name/place of birth/date of birth/occupation Richard Wetzel Mugleston, May 27, 1908. Mechanic and head of garage at International Harvester. (Farm equipment, supplies, generators on farm) Mothers name/place of birth/date of birth/occupation- Laura May Walker, May 10 1912 How did your father spend his time at home?- He always worked in the yard, gardening, (I was his boy out in the garden) Had a grape arbor off the side of the neighbors house, go to the lake, go to Utah all the time and especially during Christmas time (SLC). When we were teenagers, he played the sax and he had a jam session. We would have all these kids over and wed have a jam session. Charlotte and Pat played the piano. At that time, he was married to Vera. She had a cousin, johnny, who played the bass and his friend played the piano. It was jazz music. I can remember, that was nice How did your mother spend her time at home?- She was primary president, and was active in the church. Pat has a Book of Mormon that sisters gave her. Through the years, Pat met these women. One night, during a Sunday night fireside, Pat was in the kitchen. She went up to a lady in the kitchen and asked if she remembered Mae Mugleston. Her husband and her moved from Utah to North Las Vegas. She was asked to be Maes assistant in the Primary. She said Mae was always doing things and helping others. Richard (Tex) called this womans husband to use his truck for loading something. They asked him to load up the trucks and then the man asked Tex where they were going with these things and Tex said, Your house. Mae had collected furniture and then gave it to this family in need. Another lady: Pat was in the group, citizens for responsible govt, and she got a call from the organization. The lady that called was another lady that had signed the book of Mormon given to Mae. Go out and dance. Had more fun and laughed. She said to Pat, did you know Mae had a problem with cigarretes. Pat didnt know that, but this lady told her Mae struggled with it her whole life. She was called to be the Primary President. But, someone had it out for her. Someone went to the bishop and told her and then she was released from the Primary. She was very well liked and every one liked her. She had heart problems. Water would build up around heart and the procedure was to use needles to drain the water. The doctor kept telling her she had to take it easy and she responded, If Im going to live, Im going to live a full life. After procedures like that, she would go shopping right after! Mae had hayfever. In summer, it would be hard for her to breathe. Charlotte, Pat, and Mae would leave and go to Idaho and Montana and visit her sisters. They were all farm people. We would go up there for a

month or two. One time she came home, she asked, If youre mom and dad got a divorce, would you go with your mom or dad? Pat said she would go with her. She must have been very confused about that question at such a young age. Nothing like that was ever brought up again. Meticulous, very clean. Charlotte and pat used to do dishes. One time, they got in an argument and Mae threatened to spank her. Sitting at back of house in a chair. I will always remember that scene. After that, she became more ill. Felt bad that we had argued to the point that she would spank us. I knew we were the cause of her feeling bad. I felt her love for me and felt bad that she was sad. After cleaners cleaned, Mae would tell the girls how things were out of order. That is where Pat got the clean/neat habits. What languages did your parents speak? Was it different at home from in public?Richard Engilsh and German. Laura Mae- English and Irish Describe your relationship with your parents? Did they show affection? How? What sorts of things did they disapprove of? How did they show this disapproval? MayPat-I was feisty one. Charlotte followed orders better than I did. I had to find out everything the hard way. Mother and daddy had a house when first moved to Vegas. Mother was ill (heart problems). There were times when she had a hard time, but we never registered how ill. One day, Charlotte, May, and I left town. Didnt make beds like we usually do. When we came back, the house was clean. May said, the angels came. Reminded me of D&C about angels in heaven. The angels are the people who have been born and lived on this planet. Angels lived and died on this earth and will inhabit this earth once resurrected. May was a girl scout leader. We used to cook with great big cans, making stoves out of them. She taught us how to use that. They went on camp outs with her and other girl scouts. Richard-I loved my father. I was his boy, because he only had two daughters. I worked outside with him. We had a good relationship and I spent a lot of time working with him. I remember we had a boys bike, but but he made it a girl bike by removing the middle piece and saudering a new piece onto the bike to make it a girl bike. He was always serving people. When we were teenagers, we would have jam sessions. The young guys that Pat would bring over or they just knew him because Richard would help the teenage boys with their cars. I remember I was in 7th grade, going out with an 8th greader. There was a graduation party and went to Wildcat lair. Nat King Cole and famous singers would come there and play. I remember coming to this dance and we met for a little while after the graduation. They used to take the boys out for an initiatory after graduation. Rena pullium, and another Mormon girl Isabel worthern were walking by 5th street by city hall and the police dept. She lived close to where the dance was. This time a car came up, and someone came chasing us. Isabel got away, but Rena and I got caught and took us in a car. Pat was

sitting on the lap of a guy in this car. On Bldr Hwy and Charleston, in the middle of no where. Hid in the Achieal trees. They couldnt find us. They finally found us and made us take our dresses off. So we were had our slips on. Somehow we got away again and hid in the trees. Finally, the guys told us that we would not be hurt and it was getting late, so the girls decided to get back to the house by driving with them. They took the girls home. The boys asked who Pats dad was and the boys were very anxious because they knew Tex and he helped the boys with their cars. They begged Pat not to tell Tex. Describe your parents marriage- They were caring and service oriented people. Share fond memories of your parents- 929 princeton was where grandparents lived. Built by grandmothers father. His last name was Wetzel. Tex was the youngest of 4 children. Rose and two other girls. He was the youngest. The couple drank (not heavily) and had fun while dancing. Thanksgiving was always special and daddy would always make shrimp cocktails. Christmas was nice, but not overkill. Describe your parents temperaments and characteristicsRichard (Tex)- I only knew peace in my home. He was a peaceful man. He was not short tempered. There wasnt fighting or arguing, not that I remember. When May died, daddy came home from the hospital and told us that momma had passed away, Charlotte and I just layed on the bed and cried. Mae- Not and emotional person where she would carry on about anything. She was firm in expectations, but understanding. One night, charlotte and pat were doing dishes and they hid the dirty dishes in the oven. May found them and as soon as she did, she woke up the girls from their beds made them clean every dish in the house! Ha!

Grandparents: Names/places of birth/dates of birth Share memories of your grandparents? Where did they live through their lives? The Wetzels (William & Charlotte) lived in Salt Lake @ 929 Princeton. He built the house out of railroad ties. The house was so sturdy. Grandpa Wetzel had a room in the basement with his son-in-law, Fred Mugleston. Then, upstairs, Emma Wetzel had a bedroom upstairs. This was in the 1930s. Charlotte, Williams husband died without pat knowing her. Grandpa Mugleston worked there at the tribune during the depression. He payed off a loan on the house on 929 Princeton. No one else had the money. Grandpa Mugleston ended up taking care of Grandpa William Wetzel because he could afford it. Then, when William died Grandpa Mugleston inherited this home. o Their house had chicken coups for fresh eggs, a garden that Emma took care of. Emma had long rows of gladiolas, many vegetables, and a rhubarb patch. Pat loves rhubarb. They had a beautiful pear tree in their backyard. Water ran down from the gutters from springs. So, the water would be allocated and each household would have a day for watering their garden, etc. At age 15 (about 1901), Grandpa Fred Mugleston came to America with his father. They emigrated to save money for his family. The landlord asked them how much money they needed and he loaned it to them (500$) so they could bring the family over. George Mugleston, his father bought the house they were living in. However, George moved back to England. So, Frederick ended up

inheriting it as he was the oldest and took care of his family. Now, he had his first house in.. America and wanted to make a home out of it. So, he cleaned it up, put new carpet, painted it, and then asked Emma Wetzel to marry him. They lived there. Fred worked his whole life at the Salt Lake Tribune. He helped print it every day. What did they look like? What stories have you heard about them? What language did they speak? Was it different at home from in public?

Great-Grandparents: Names/places of birth/dates of birth What do you know about the ancestors of your grandparents?- carpenter. Put the doors on the tabernacle of salt lake city. Where did your family immigrate from?- Wetzel-Germany. What stories have you heard about your more distant relatives?- William Wetzel lived with his daughter, Emma and she married Fred. Came on cart or covered wagon across the plains. Pats great grandfather Wetzel. William, when he was 8, was asked if he was afraid. He said no, his dad had given him a pocket knife. One of the sisters of William Wetzel married to a Faust and gave birth to a Faust who was an apostle. President Faust did a 4th of July talk and spoke about family and how he learned about his ancestors from the knee of his uncle, William Wetzel. This speech was at the Mariott center. This was after 2000. Pat found a book where told heritage was tied to president Kimball on Maes side. Lost the book. Family History book is published. A Moses Thatcher was an apostle but excommunicated. We need to get the walker line, although Rachel thatcher had 7 or 8 children after laura. Mae and Tex helped all Maes brothers and sisters get on their feet. Pats Grandpa William Wetzel had a nack for telling stories and was such a funny guy. He always had candy and cookies in this tin can. He lived in the basement and when you visited him, you always knew you were going to get a treat. He was a sweet man. Childhood: Where did you grow up?- Las Vegas, NV Describe the house in which you grew up.- Harvard st. in North Las Vegas. There was a vacant lot down the street and thats where we would play baseball. The house had two bedrooms, one bath, kitchen with a laundry room. The garage was separate from the house. There was also a separate apartment that was attached to the garage. It had a bed on the wall. At one time, Pat, Charlotte, Mom, and dad lived in that small studio for a while due to finances. At one point, Tex created a room in the back of the garage that was like a bedroom, while the front of the garage was used for storage. Mae would go to Utah with Pat and Charlotte to can and there were always beautiful fruits that they brought back and put in storage in the garage. But Mae gave up after a while because it would discolor in the heat of the garage and there was no room inside the house for it. We had a beautiful arbor with grapes draping the fence in the backyard. There was a redwood 6 ft tall fence around the house that Tex made. Describe the sort of food you ate. Where did you eat your meals? Did your family eat together?- We always ate together about every night when Mae was alive. We didnt go to fast food, I remember eating pot roast, egg salad sandwiches (her favorite). I remember making home made ice cream. Mae used to make a pineapple sherbet, I used to love that. Home made macaroni and cheese. She

would put chunks of the cheddar cheese, egg with milk, and it was delicious. I loved ketchup with it. I still do. Describe the types of clothes you wore.- Before Vera got married to Tex, Vera bought us each a beautiful easter dress. Ronzonis carried catalina. When dad was married to Vera, they would buy us nice clothes. Opal would buy us junk. Charlotte and I remembered saying if only we had one decent skirt and a catalina cardigan. Thats probably why I worked at a clothing store in Salt Lake Miriams right next to the ZCMI close to the temple. Tudor style and narrowed down. It was a wrap around. Close after that, I married Thomas and he got mad at me one time, he took a knife and slashed all of my clothes. I had to beg for clothes from my family. Thomas was a jealous man and would even get jealous of his own son. Describe the games you played as a child.- Baseball, card games, hide and seek in the house, we rode around on our bicycle that daddy made into a girls style. We played with our paper dolls. We would make clothes and houseseven hankies and everything for them. Then we each had a nice doll we got for Christmas. One year, we got a set of encyclopedias for Christmas, we love those. How did you find out about Santa Claus?- Yolanda, whose parents were good friends with our parents, and Charlotte and I talked about finding out about Santa Clause. We went up to Mae and asked if there really was and I remember her explaining how Santa turned the work over to the parents. I remember hearing the parents bustling around Christmas eve and wondering what was going on out there. I was the curious one. Describe the chores you did as a child. Did you get and allowance? What did you spend it on? What did you want but could never afford?- We did quite a bit. We cleaned the fridge once a week. The fridge got icy, so we had to clean it every week to keep on top of it that it wasnt too built up. We would fill hot trays of water to defrost the ice. We would clean the chairs and tables and windows and straightening up our rooms and dressers. We got paid a little allowance, but it wasnt for cleaning. It was not compensation for doing chores, just extra money for us to save. Did you have any health issues as a child? What was the treatment? no. Describe your childhood friends.-Sandy Devereaux and I kept in touch for a long time. Her mother was a food waitress at the Flamingo and her dad was a bar tender. She was the only child, disturbed, only child. She knew her father was not her biological dad, but her mother wouldnt tell her. She wasnt taught about God. She was chunky, so she got on pills for a dietbenzadrine and dexadrine. She got hooked on them. Her parents sent her to Levenworth, by the prison. We went through a lot with her. She would be awake for days on those pills. I had lost track of her for a while and on a vacation with Merril, at Sacramento, we found her! She was living in Sacramento with her mother and we were so excited to see each other. - Ruth Barfield. Our family was good friends with her family. Describe any individuals who had a positive or negative effect on your life.Barbara Castler- We met in the days of the El Rancho. I think she worked there and I worked at the Frontier Hotel. I met my boyfriend through her, he was a very good man. I watched her life as she continued to live the way she lived. I look back now and see that not having to have a man and trusting the Lord is much better. I am grateful for that lesson to know that I dont have to depend on anyone besides the Lord. I mean, I depend on people to help me, but down to the nitty gritty He is the one I depend on.

Bonnie Melancon- She was a Mormon and then her and her husband left the church because her husband was depicted as a child molester. He went to prison for a while, but she stood by him. She is so faithful and open, shes got more wisdom and more understanding. I lived with them for a while and I helped her son, financially, go on his mission. Kaylee Luebke was on a mission at the same time as Bonnies son. Pat helped both of them financially. Bonnie must have family Charma because she does a lot of work for the dead. America Rose Gibbs- She loved me. I knew that her family loved me. Her husband and her. I was accepted for who I was when I was such a hellion, just not living right. I never felt pretty or beautiful. The only thing I can thing of is that the Lord must have a light in me, because I never looked at myself as pretty or beautiful. I was just Patricia Rose Mugleston. When I lived with America Rose, she would practice the organ and I would sit and listen to her. I always felt peace there. When I lived with her, I was good, but then I would go and find boys. Charlotte- She lived a good life. She was married. Even though there were some problems with her husband. Im sure he helped pay for me to leave Thomas Sullivan and move to Utah. She has always been there for me. She has always accepted me for who I was. I just love her because she has always lived a good life. She lived a high standard. She is just good. We have been close. When I was in California and needed money, I would borrow it form her. I always paid it back. Thomas Sullivan- In his mortal life, he hurt me and abused me, but I believe he has been working as a protector for me and he has asked me to forgive him. I had a reading from a woman in Cedar City. The woman told me Thomas was standing on his knees begging for forgiveness and said he wanted to give something back for what he had done to me by being a spiritual protector. Housekeeper- Ida Lee Brown. I had a black housekeeper when I was working. She took care of Maria, Darryl, and Rick. She loved southern cooking, made a great fruit salad, okra, collards, beans, sweet potato pie. She made the best sweet potato pie. She was so funny. She was running after Rick for some reason and her pants slipped of and she kept running after him. She was so funny! My neighbor, Trish Lanphier, had 4 girls and needed a helper. So, Ida Lee thought about it, but she said there was no way that she was going into the house until it was clean. So, Pat went in that house and spent a week and cleaned that filthy house from top to bottom. Then, Ida Lee worked for Trish for years. Chris (moms friend)- Pat was a young womens president in the 23rd ward. Chris was in this young womens group. I came to ask why Chris wasnt coming to young womens and it ended up that the records were wrong and she was of primary age. But Pat and Chris mom became very close after that first day they met. One time, she came over upset with her husband because he was gambling and so on. She wanted to leave her husband and Pat offered up her house to her and 4 kids. She lived with Pat for about 10 days. Finally, she left, but we had a great time together. Then, she went back to her husband and later, they went to havasu to live. She joined the church and saw Bonanza on TV about the Mormon pioneers. So, Paula Valeny called the producers of Bonanza and asked what religion they were and she found up and then called the Mormon church and got baptized. A lot of the time, we were far from each other, but we had great phone conversations. I did not have enough money for long distance phone calls,

but Paula would tell me that Pat was the only expenditure she had. She would spend all the money she could because Pat was worth it. Paula valeny. Scott- I met Scotts father. He worked for Alan Stewart. Pat went on a date with his father and we went to his house that was a dumpy motel. Then, here were these three beautiful children. I took them to primary and they would stay with me on the weekends and holidays. Nothing came up with his father in an intimate way, but I still looked after the kids every once in a while. Scotts father got kicked out of his place, and the three kids needed looking after for a while for some reason or another. So, he brought the kids over to her place. The children wouldnt be allowed to go back to the CPS because their father took them there so often to be looked after. So, Pat took them to CPS. She then became the advocate for them and looked for someone in the church to be foster parent so they could stay together. So, Pat got three families to take care of each child that had families that were close to each other, so they were not too separated. That was the best she could find. Then, one family that had Scott ended up not being able to stay in the familys house that he was currently staying at. So, Pat prayed about it and the Leavitts ended up taking all three children and taking care of them. However Pat was very involved with all of the children for the rest of their lives. Scott never forgot Pats sacrifice. Scott worked at Sams club on the weekends, rode his bike from Aunt Roses house to Eldorado. He was dedicated to get through high school and Pat helped him accomplish that. He has said, Everything I am today, I owe to you. Mabel Parrish- She was in the hospital waiting for her ride. I invited her to talk with me. She was there to get blood tested because she had cancer. I asked her if she had anyone to help or support her. She really didnt have many people close in proximity to help her. She lived in a nice retirement home in Rodondo beach. I asked her if she had ever heard of the Mormon church. I told her the church had a great support. Also, I asked her if it was okay if the missionaries could teach her. She was very intelligent, black woman. She didnt get baptized right away, but she got baptized. The church just loved her before she was a member and when she got converted. Later, she got sick again and decided not to do treatment. Pat was there with her son and Mabel when she died. She had touched many lives and the church had a memorial before she died. She had done so many things and so many people came to honor and appreciate her before she died. Black and white people were there. She was truly a choice daughter of Heavenly Father. One, time, she asked Pat to come over for Sunday dinner. Her brother two brothers were ministers in another church and another brother was a musician. I grabbed a tape recording of the Desert Corale (which maria was in) and gave it to a brother to put in to play. We had a wonderful conversation about the gospel and I was able to answer all of the questions they had. One brother had to leave and then a few minutes later, there was a call on the other line. It was the brother who had just left, David. You know that tape you brought, could you give that to me? I really liked it. She agreed and left the tape for David to keep at Mabels house. Bill, Mabels other brother told Pat that when she had given Bill the tape to play, David rolled his eyes and said, Oh, no. But then he ended up taking to it and asking for a copy. There was a wonderful spirit there and Mabel and Is prayers were answered that we could answer all their questions and have a good dinner with them without contention. Star Abbott- Met in church in the restroom. We found we had so much in common and so we went out a couple of times. I was on the way to an appointment and saw cops at her house, but I didnt stop. However, I stopped on my way back and found her husband had died. So, I went through that with

her and ended up living with her. She was very spiritual. We would pray together in the morning with each other. To be able to have the same thing in common and have spiritual Im not a very detailed person, but to watch her go through such detail in her paintings was inspiring. I was detailed in certain things, but I always jumped around and was never really consistent with what I did. Arlene Hammond- One thing Ill say about you Pat is that your are always the first to apologize. Pat rented a room for 3 years from her untii she got a place in Laguna. She had a strong testimony of the gospel. She is so disciplined and did everything the Lord told her to do. When she joined the church, she located all of her relatives and deceased members and did genealogy work for them. She took time off of work and did genealogy work. She was a hard worker and always helping people, very generous. She is a missionary in the SLC geneology library. It was nice to be around something like that where you could discuss the gospel with someone. I miss that discussion with others. We had family home evening at her place on Monday nights. We went around to other womens home, but mostly hers for family home evening. Cleon Skowsen- I used to go to his seminars. He taught about the government and banking. He had done a lot of things in his life and he helped shape my view on politics and helped me understand the meat of the gospel. I told his son that his father had a great influence on me. He taught me what was going on in the government and because of that, I did not have to live in fear of what was going to happen. This knowledge brought peace to my life because I didnt have to fear the unknown. Now, I could have faith in the Lords plan. Ricki- I always said Ricki saved me. He kept me responsible. If I did not have him, I dont know where I would be. One of my house keepers was holding Darryl and Ricki was standing up in the back seat. Ricki said, Oh mom, I hope you never have a girl. It would just kill me. Haha He was a good influence on me in many ways. He was good to his son. Tommy, his son, was so sweet. He was a simple, sweet, spirit. Darryl- Darryl and I were good friends. Paula would always say, One of these days, I hope I will be as good of a friend to Darryl as you are. We used to talk about everything. I love talking to him. One time, he was working with Allen and going to school, and I was had an extra 20$ after paying my bills. So, I took this 20$ and tried to give him something because I really never did anything for him monetary wise. He was so independent and bought his own clothes, etc. We were arguing back and forth and he said, no mom, you take it. He runs away and Im running after him. Chris father was there and after I had run out the door to chase him and he said, A teenager not taking monetary from their parents? Ive never seen that before. When he became a priest, he blessed the sacrament. Later after, I noticed that he wasnt taking the sacrament. He said that he had been doing things that he shouldnt be doing that stopped him from taking the sacrament. I always admired his integrity to choose not to pass the sacrament even though the other boys that were doing the same thing Darryl was doing and he knew it. He didnt justify his actions, he had integrity to know that wasnt right. When he was in high school his dad gave him a Toyota truck. So, he overhauled the truck himself and took out the engine just by reading a book. He was not afraid to move forward and learn.

Maria- She has been like a jewel, a teacher to me. She really is my teacher. I admire her for her strength and how she does things. She works so hard. When she took over the business and had kids, she worked so hard. I remember one day, she was driving with the kids and me. The phone rang and one of the kids said, Mom, youre always on the phone. If it wasnt for this phone, I would be at a desk somewhere and not with you. When she tells me that I laid the ground work for her success and I feel so good that she gives me that recognition. Maria went forward and tackled everything. Ill never forget when she started taking piano lessons. We needed a piano and a lady in the church was selling hers for 500$. Come to find out, when the piano was tuned, the tuner said the piano held a tune great. She said to me, when she left her sophomore year, you know mom, probably the best thing you ever did was to move because I would have become a snob. She was popular in her other school and she felt it was a good thing to move to a new school to meet new people.

After I feel different. I now know where I stand. I know I am going to be happier now. I want to be as obedient as I can and love my family. I know my family expects much more out of me, but living in this body of mine is difficult. I would get frustrated because no one really knows what it is to be like me. My doctor told me why I felt how I felt and that explanation brought me peace. Describe significant events you remember as a child- vacations, funerals, hardships, etc. -We used to always go to Salt Lake for Christmas. -We would always get the Christmas tree on Christmas eve. We would always decorate that night and we hung up our stockings. Grandpa Wetzel would always put a piece of coal in our stockings. I remember one Christmas, we came back to Vegas after and it had snowed more in Vegas than in Utah. I just remembered thinking how neat that was that we had that much snow at Christmas time. Share some things you remember getting in trouble for as a child. - When Pat was in Kindergarten or 1st grade, the older kids were doing a play and for some reason, they needed to use the younger kids rooms. So, we were in the older kids room and Pat was moving back and forth in the desk. Mrs. Jane, a heavy set, single woman, told me to stop squirming. She said if she didnt sit still, she would spank her. She kept wiggling and then Mrs. Jane told her to come up to the front and she put her over her knee and spanked her. Then, Mrs. Jane told her to sit down, but Pat was crying and so upset, she just left the classroom and walked home. Share some successes you had as a child. - I got held back in 3rd or 4th grade. My family went on a long vacation and I was struggling, so I got held back. Consequently, I felt I was a dummy for the rest of my life. If I felt it was too hard, I didnt try. I never learned how to struggle and learn. I should have been taught to struggle through things and try. I didnt finish high school. I didnt do anything academic or organized. What pets did you have as a child. We had a small terrier, Rocky. He was small spaniel.

Family activities: Describe how your family celebrated holidays. - Birthday celebrations were small. Some friends would come over and maybe some - Merril didnt show up a lot of the time for Christmas eve, so I decided to invite everyone that I knew had no where else to go. I was active in the church at the time, so there was no alcohol. So, I made all of the food and there were quite a few people. So, the kids and their counsins were able to get toghether and it became a family tradition to have a big Christmas eve celebration at her house. Maria took that tradition on and she has at least 20 people that come to her house for Christmas Eve dinner. -Charlotte was the one who had Thanksgiving and Christmas day. For a lot of years, I worked during the Holidays, so my family would go there with Merril. Describe the traditions of your family. -On Holidays, we would go on camping trips. We went on a lot of fishing trips whenever there was a day off of school. This was with Merril and Pats kids. Tex and Vera had a pool, so they would go over to his hous and swim. How did your parents discipline? -My dad never laid a hand on us. Hes like Ben Luebke, very calm. Didnt yell or scream. But, my children grew up with yelling and screaming. Darryl loved to learn, Pat always admired that about Darryl. Describe some family rules. Describe your brothers and sisters. Share fond memories you have of your brothers and sisters.

Education: Where did you go to school? o Elementary-In North Las Vegas- maybe o Junior High-5th street grammar school. We didnt have jr. high. We went to grammar school through 8th grade. It is now a historical site. o High School-Las Vegas High School- Also a historical site. She left high school about 1951. o Collegeo Trade School- Real Estate School in Las Vegas first, then Insurance School in Vegas and California How did you get to school?- Bus. Describe your school experience.- I sat with a black girl in school. I didnt think anything of it. We always paired up when we needed pairs in school. She became a Rhythemette too. Describe any teachers that had an effect upon you. Describe any times you got in trouble at school.- The year I quit, I was a sophomore. I hadnt memorized a passage and she tried to get me to say it. She said, I know you can do it. She begged and pleaded with me, but I wouldnt do it because I was afraid of memorizing. So, she failed me and that was when I went to Utah with the intention to go back to school,but I found a job and never went back to school. Describe friends you had at school. Sandy, Gale. Sandy was Charlottes age, but we ended up being best fiends. Describe hobbies or extra-curricular activities you engaged in like sports, music, etc. I loved baseball and basketball. That all ended when I left school. I never had anything driving me to do anything. I never had a passion for any of it. I loved music, I loved jazz. I always dated men that were musicians. I just loved the beat and sound of jazz. I love to reminisce and think about my past. That

music just made me feel good inside. It was soothing to the soul because it came from their soul. They had a touch of their inner self. I guess because I had shut down my emotion, that music had touched something inside my heart and soul. Probably a sadness for my life, my mothers death, and not having them the way I wanted it to be. Not having a marriage that I wanted to have that was right. Were you young for your grade or old? I think I was a young soul. I was always perky, everybody said. But, I have never really been in touch with my body. I couldnt jitterbug or swing unless I was drinking. It released the tension that kept me from trying. I have never been comfortable with my body. How did your parents feel about education?- I dont remember them encouraging us to go to college. I dont really remember. Whenever I went to school, I would go. If I didnt go to school, I dont remember much about them being mad for not going, but Im sure they talked to me. My father was so patient with me and I was stubborn. So, I went when I wanted to learn something.

Work: What was the hardest job you ever had?- Trying to be a fry cook. I lasted two days, they fired me. They wanted me to flip the eggs in the pan and I couldnt do it. Haha. But in all seriousness, if I had a hard job, I just went out and did it. During sales, perhaps I was poor at being a closer. I couldnt close people, but the Lord put me in roles where I didnt need to use that. The hardest thing was to sell something, I just ended up giving it away. People didnt have money and I would always end up feeling sorry for them. It just ended up happening that way. I couldnt say no. I think that was because I didnt want anyone to dislike me and I wanted to be liked. What was the biggest mistake you ever made on the job? What did you learn from working?- I loved people, getting to know them. Number one, honesty and integrity. I know that the Lord blessed me because I had those two. The Lord blessed me with what I needed. Money was never my God. It was never on the top of my list. The Lord led me all the way. I have said, Lord you have taken care of me in such a beautiful way. How did you spend money that you earned?- I gave it away to a lot of people. I was always helping. Some of them used me and abused me. If I saw people on the street that needed me, I would give them money. I had pleasure in helping strangers in whatever kind of a little way. Now, my money is spent on keeping me alive. I lived as cheaply as I could and I invested my money. I lost a lot of it, I didnt know how to grow the money I had. If you could go back in life would you make the same choices about work?Share memories you have of friends you made on the job, or bosses you had. What was your favorite job?- Insurance. Being able to teach classes about medicare, seniors insurance, at the hospital. This was my favorite because I never anticipated that I could ever do anything like that. I felt like such a dummy all the time. But I knew something about medicare, and I was able to have seminars and classes. I could help people be aware of what was coming at them. Other competitors would sell seniors policies for thousands of dollars and I was able to help them get what they need. Many times, it was much less expensive. My credibility at the hospital was good. If you could be anything in the world, what job would you like to have?- Id go to the temple and work in the temple. Thats really where I want to be. Id love to be able to travel, but Im just not there in my life. I am content with where Im

at. I just want to get well enough to get back to the temple and back to church. Id like to get out and be a missionary. - What is your perspective on life at this timeI feel different. I now know where I stand. I know I am going to be happier now. I want to be as obedient as I can and love my family. I know my family expects much more out of me, but living in this body of mine is difficult. I would get frustrated because no one really knows what it is to be like me. My doctor told me why I felt how I felt and that explanation brought me peace.

Leisure: Share memories of how you spent your spare time? I dont remember having any spare time. I was always involved with people. I had friends and people had a lot of needs and I just tried to be there for them. I was, how can you say this, ADD. I could never sit still and do one thing over and over. I was not a hobby person. Interacting with people allowed something different to be going on all the time. The one thing I did was read. Merril would have the TV on, kids would be running around, and I would be reading. Merril would ask how I could read while all things were going on. But that was my leisure activity. You learn about things and you have a greater understanding of things. My problem is now that I cant always remember everything I read. I pray for the ability to remember and recall the information I have learned. So, I pray that they will be able to be filed somewhere in my brain and one day I will be able to recall all I learn. What memories do you have of dating?- In high school, dated a young man in the service. They talked about getting married. HE was from VA, DC area. All of the sudden, he disappeared. Didnt call or see him. I was crushed. I saw him out with a girl later and it so happened that the girl was a sister of a girl I went to school with. I finally got over him, but I always wondered why. 30 years later, I had been married 3 times. One day, I got a call. I was working on Mtn. Vista and was in Real Estate. Around 10 oclock, the phone was ringing. The voice said, Hi, is this Pat. How are you doing? Finally, he told me, this is Doug Cain. He flew out two days later from NYC and took me out to dinner. We had a long distance relationship after that. Supposedly, he was a widower. All of a sudden, he disappeared again. I couldnt figure what happened to him. Many years later, I found him and called him. I called him and wondered what had happened, but I never got to the bottom of things. Charlotte and I took a trip out to visit him one last time. We made dinner for him and I ended up finding a letter that his wife had written him 3 years earlier. Things faded after that. He was just not the most honest man. - I didnt really date. I found that my friends had become my husbands. Share some memories of fun things you did with friends when you were young. Share some memories of fun things you did with friends when you were an adult.- I won trips from the insurance company I worked for. I went to LA, Vegas (at the Mirage), Hawaii. I took Maria to one vacation, Paula, and Charlotte to another. It was fun. Ive been to Hawaii three times. The Luebke and Thompson Family went with her (1989). Then she went with Charlotte once and Rose the other. I wanted to go to the temple, but I never got to go. How did you like to spend free Saturdays? Snorkeling on Auahu. I loved California, but I felt like I shouldnt be there anymore and I left. So, I went to Utah and I could have been a lot more well off in California had I stayed. Did you prefer a couple good friends, or many casual friends?-

How did your parents treat your friends?- They were great. Everybody loved my stepmom and my dad. They were comfortable with him. He worked at The clark county whole sale as a mechanic. They had a feed store, worked on large trucks, and cars. The company owned a car called, Red Dog. I remember they would close off boulder hwy on one side and use it for the races. The cars they fixed up would be raced on boulder hwy. Charlotte and I used to go with him to the farm to fix generators with daddy. One time, we joined him and I remember these ducks started chasing us and we ran and away from them, screaming. He was like Ray Milland, very popular. During the depression, daddy was selling home products at international harvester and going door to door selling fuller brush. He wasnt doing very well. Emma Mugleston went to go visit Tex to see how they were doing. They were really struggling and Emma had Laura and Tex pack up and move into the Mugeston home in 929 Princeton.

Heart problems, still had Charlotte. If you were rich, how would you spend your time? Do you enjoy: o Reading o Movies and TV o Camping and hunting o Sporting events o Shopping o Crafts o Other

Politics: How would you describe yourself politically? Describe some of your favourite politicians. Share your feelings about the country and its future. Share your feelings about your fellow citizens. Did you enjoy history? Share a story of a time you became involved in a local or national political issue or race. What political issue is most important to you and why? Marriage How did you meet your spouse? Why did you marry him or her? What do you love about him or her? Describe falling in love and getting married. Describe your honeymoon. What lessons have you learned from marriage? What advice would you give to someone getting married? What hardships have you and your spouse had to face together? How did you divide work in your marriage? How did you handle finances? Describe special friends you and your spouse had. How did you communicate with your spouse? How would you describe your relationship? How did you decide when to have children and how to raise them? Where did you get advice for marriage and parenting?

Describe your relationship with your in-laws. How is your relationship with your children different from your parents relationship with you?

Religion How did you feel about religion as a child? How do you feel about religion now? How have you spent Sundays over the years? Were your parents religious? How so? What Church were you raised in and how did you feel about it? What memories do you have of church activities you enjoyed? -I had a calling for primary when my kids were in primary and then I got called into the young womens as a second counselor. However, my kids did not want to go when I wasnt there. I finally asked my bishop if I could have two callings, so I was a primary teacher and second counselor. Then I was called as a young womens president. So, I had two callings. Another sister that was a president of the young womens at the time I was a second counselor was so amazing. She was a business woman and so influential. I wanted to be like her. Then, 6 weeks after I was called as a second counselor in the young womens counselor, I was called as a president. When I was asked by the bishop, I said no. About three times, he said, The Lord wants you as young womens president. The last time he said that, I finally realized that if the Lord wanted me as president, I should do it. The first Sunday as young womens president, I went in the room and the spirit came over me and was so strong that it came over all of my body. -Then, I was called as a first counselor in the Relief Society. Were you taught to say prayers at night? Did you ever have family prayers? How do you feel about God?

Identity How would you describe yourself? What have been some of your defining moments in life? What are your strengths and weaknesses? If you could go back in time: o What are some things you would like to re-experience? o What are some things you would like to change? What do you what people to know about you? Have you ever experienced a war, depression, natural disaster, etc. Daddys 2nd remarriage- Vera. Veras son loved Tex. So, Pat was jealous of Veras son. She was caught in a dilemma because she couldnt figure out the why me question. God didnt make her better. For the next 20 year, thats

Pat took all of Darryl and Marias kids to visit Mae Muglestons grave. She introduced all of the kids to Mae individually and then they had a prayer. After the prayer, Kaylee say, We need to sing Families can be together forever. So, they all held hands and sang together. Such a sweet experience.

What did you learn when Gaby came down to visit and do family history I know that I love my family and I feel very blessed to have that love and support. Were a small family, but our families together is a blessing. The most important thing is family and gospel. The more I study the gospel, the more I love Joseph Smith and Jesus Christwhat they went through. The most important thing is the Atonement and the ability to repent. I have learned that all of the mistakes that I have made when I lived without God showed me a side that if I had not lived it, I wouldnt have truly appreciated it. When I was 32 years old and gained my testimony, working as a cocktail waitress, 4 different husbands, 3 children, I found my testimony. Another cocktail waitress and I would talk to each other for hours. I finally took the lessons and I knew I had to change the way I lived and thought. I had to go to the Lord and the hardest change for me to make was quitting cigarettes. Minutes before I went to the Lord, I had a drink in a hand and a cigarette in the other hand. But I was determined to quit. I prayed to the Lord to take my addictions and lifestyle away. But I knew I needed his help. It scared me to think about being without cigarettes. The next morning I woke up and I did not want a cigarette. It was my miracle. I thought, He knows me. That has been my miracle that I have hung onto.