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http://www.myanmarengineer.org/forum/index.php/topic,1413.0.html
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chit tee : October 07, 2008, 11:55:13 AM

2003 Etabs Software ( )
Sap 2000 .. Building Design Etabs

() ..
() ..
Etabs
: #1 ->: October 07, 2008, 02:33:15 PM

...
structure
Auto CAD
Etabs
Etabs

chit tee : #2 ->: October 09, 2008, 12:00:33 PM

Structural Design (Civil Engineering)

Basic Idea & concept

Etabs software
Model run
structural design
output Architecture structure (building)
simplified model loading
chit tee : http://www.myanmarengineer.org/forum/index.php/topic,1413.0.html

input output black box
structural analysis and
design software
Etabs software
Pargyi : #3 ->: October 13, 2008, 10:45:50 PM

Structure theory concept . material specification .. economic design
workable
Structure assumption theory background Basic concept
advanced Code

material specification data
material specification
economy design Designer workable Designer
Designer Construction Site
Designer
Economy & Practical
Etabs software
papagyi Design
Etabs

. etab version . structure method base


version 7.4
(
) ... Designer Etabs Version 6 version
Lateral Force Model Run
Version 7.4 National CD ( )
version discount % discount

version Hard Lock key Standalone Network key
Etabs Version 7.9.0, 8.0.0, 8.4.8, 9.0.0, 9.0.7, 9.2.0

User friendly
version 8.4.8 ()

Etabs Code UBC97, BS Code, India Code, ACI Code, etc..
2D & 3D Analysis & Design
Steel Design, R.C Design, Composite Design, Steel joist Design, Shear Wall Design
Manually Modified

.. caculation method ..displacement method ,moment distribution
method , finite method...
chit tee : #9 ->: November 06, 2008, 02:55:01 PM

papagyi

method
Etabs
Etabs
Etabs Company ( )

member Deflection
Modeling Finite Element method
(Slab Wall Shell element )
Finite Element method
Analysis ....
ETABS is available in two levels: Plus (P) and Nonlinear (N). A letter in parenthesis following a feature
identifies the version(s) that are associated with it.
Static/Dynamic Analysis for Frame and Shear Wall Buildings (N, P)
Response Spectrum Analysis with Eigen or Ritz Vectors (N, P)
P-Delta Analysis (N, P)

Automated Center of Rigidity Calculations (N, P)
Rigid, Semi-Rigid, Multiple and Flexible Floor Diaphragms (N, P)
Frame Objects Drawn as Members Automatically Meshed (N, P)
Automatic Meshing of Decks/Slabs for Diaphragm Analysis (N, P)
Wall/Slab/Deck Modeled with Shell, Plate or Membrane Types (N, P)
Applied Force and Ground Displacement Loading (N, P)
Seismic Acceleration or Displacement Time History Analysis (N, P)
Wind Load Forcing Functions (N, P)
Explicit Panel-Zone Deformations (N, P)
Effects of Beam-Column Partial Fixity (N, P)
Construction Sequence Loading Analysis (N)
Frame Hinges for Axial, Flexural, Shear & Torsional Behavior (N)
Nonlinear Static Pushover Analysis (N)
Viscous Dampers (N)
Base Isolators (N)
Gap Object for Structural Pounding (N)
Nonlinear Time History Analysis with the Wilson FNA Method (N)
Large Displacement Analysis (N)
Sequential Construction Analysis (N)
http://www.csiberkeley.com/
Etabs supporting documents .....
Video

.... http://www.csiberkeley.com/Support_WL_ETABS.html Video files ...
Technical Paper
http://www.csiberkeley.com/support_technical_papers.html
Etabs Software ()

JohnMoeEain : #12 ->: November 28, 2008, 10:46:41 AM

system Siingapore system
lbs kft weight force,........ Singapore metric unit
Singapore version ..........
JohnMoeEain : #13 ->: November 28, 2008, 11:21:58 AM

input output data local
code .. UBC 97, IS, ACI
code . code
Pargyi : #14 ->: November 28, 2008, 01:11:54 PM

post Finite Element method basic structural concept
structure
chit tee : #15 ->: December 04, 2008, 07:53:15 PM

Basic Design concept
(R.C design ) Analysis

Assumption

Assumption

...
() ACI code units inches , lbs , kips, lbs, kip-ft
BS code units mm, m, N (newton), KN
(kilonewton), KN-m
.. ACI code moment
beam size span unit
ft kips

() () Beam & Column Design
Moment & Shear 2D Frame analysis output
Frame () Column reduction
Frame analysis
Column design Moment effect
HDB ( )
Projects Column shape square
rectangular ( 250x1000=10"x40")
Residential Building Frame analysis Beam

analysis run design Column Design moment design (moment
long span car paring building moment+axial load )
Axial load only HDB
Company Span 6 m (. )
.. column direction moment effect
column direction moment effect .. Beam ... end moment release
analysis
() BS code wind lateral force & Notional load
BS code

Etabs .. Architect Structural point of view framing
system strong Etabs model simplified
modeling Etabs

Etabs Version 9.2 Version 8.0.7 & 8.4.8
Etabs

ACI code
.. UBC 97 Chapter 16 ....
frameing system Zone earthquake fault line
.. data
Code Code
( Code formula
.. minimum thickness cover minimum steel % maximum steel % .. limitation
)
Code ..
Code Text Book
Code Design
Open Book formula ..


Design Concept Construction Site

Professional .. General knowledge

Finite Element method .. Concept
Etabs Floor Slab Wall Shell element modeling ...
Shell element finite element analysis
slab loading Beam load transfer ..
Shell element .. Auto or manual or both
Mesh slab or wall ..
Auto mesh internally Manual mesh
square or rectangular or triangle

Etabs Shell element transfer loading
node
transfer node to node loading transfer beam

..
...
JohnMoeEain : #22 ->: February 11, 2009, 11:40:05 AM

.....
Beam Frame Analysis ... 2
Dimension .. The whole building run ....
partial loading ... 3 Dimensional Frame Analysis
.... member moment, shear, bending, torsion
... ....
... Column Axial load moment effect
column eccentricity moment
Long length short length slenderness ratio
moment ...
.. ....
Building Frame Analysis The whole building
... software calculation time Analysis
.. .... data
resonable .... ...
...
......
Column Live load reduction factor BS Code ACI Code
.. Etabs Analysis Design software
... spread sheet ......
chit tee : #23 ->: February 11, 2009, 12:22:27 PM

( QP
)
Etabs Software Analysis ... Design
Etabs Analysis & Design for Seismeic Design Project ...
1) Airport View Tower (12 storey - 3 basement) (Shwe Pyi Thit Co.,ltd)
2) Grand Golden View Tower ( 21 storey , final = 10 storey - 2 basement) (Dagon Int'l Co.,ltd)
3) Ruby Tower (21 storey - 1 basement) (Shwe Taung Co.,ltd = Olympic Co.,ltd)
4) Pyay Tower (12 storey) (Asia world Co.,ltd)
5) Myaywaddy Tower (13 storey) (Htoo Co.,ltd) ...
- AVT, PT
- GGVT Tower

- RT foundation 75% Bored Pile (for 21 storey )
- MT Driven Pile
Etabs Model wall & slab Shell
element Meshing (warning ) proper
model Analysis run 6 13
model
P4
limitation error beam, slab, column
Analysis Run (2003
) Etabs

ACI code UBC97
Etabs software Analysis & design
section define cover final design

Etabs default cover (default cover final design cover
) effective depth design output : longitudinal steel area, stirrups
steel area, torsion steel area
ACI Code Design ....
- Etabs output (eg. for beam) steel longitudinal reinforcement main bar longitudinal main
bar area + torsion longitudinal bar
- Stirrups spacing design shear output + torsion stirrup spacing
- Excel spread sheet
BS Code design ...

- BS Code Torsion design
... Etabs
BS Code Design Torsion steel Torsion Critical
Beam By hand calculation
- Etabs complete design ... Etabs Analysis
output design spread sheet Co.,ltd Etabs Analysis
& Design Co.,ltd
Etabs Design Etabs


...

ACI code Live load reduction


...
Method (1)
Method (2)
Roof -
100%
100%
12F -
60%
90% (10% reduce)
11F -
60%
80% (20% reduce)
10F -
60%
70% (30% reduce)
9F
60%
60% (40% reduce)
8F
60%
60% ( ... same ... )
7F
60%
60%
6F
60%
60%
5F
60%
60%
4F
60%
60%
3F
70%
60%
2F
80%
60% ( ... same ... )
1F
90%
60% (reduce 40%)
GF
100%
100%

Super Market Live Load function safety
Commercial Floor 100%
() 90% 80% 70% Design Final
decision Maximum 40%
Tributary Area Method
Etabs Live Load define Reduce Live Load
Method Tributary Area Method (UBC97)
Live Load Reduction full Live Load

...
beam () 2D frame analysis & design
...
( ... )
Beam analysis design ..
.... beam one span one span ... two span two span ... simply supported
simply supported ... continuous span continuous span ... point load .. structural plan
(framing plan or key plan) nature analysis bending moment, shear
Beam Design continuous span one span
analysis design
column beam (secondary beam column to column (or) one end is
joined to column/wall beam main beam ) analysis design
.. reaction main beam (frame) column ...
elevation frame ... simplified
(grid line ) analysis run
Etabs beam , column , wall , stair etc.
3D analysis software 3D frame analysis 2D analysis
result ..
.. 3D Run lateral
force output results
input & model ()
experience
input &
modeling
2D span +moment , -moment nature
(Singapore +moment sagging moment -moment hogging moment

)
JohnMoeEain : #26 ->: February 15, 2009, 04:24:37 PM

....
...... ( ....)
analysis spread sheet design software
C++ ( )
concrete BS code design steel reference ... LRFD
... BS 5950 ..... .

spread sheet lotus
Math CAD
Microsoft Excel program
Excel Excel
Microsoft office software
steel Design BS-5950 LRFD BS steel Design LRFD

( steel design experience
)
semester Steel Design module

steel design ....

HDB Projects ( / )
Project Column Design Moment effect only axial Load

....
- Column ( Column width
250mm 800/900 mm length 1200/1600 mm )
- Column weak direction Beam moment release
moment effect
- HDB Residential Building Max beam span 6 m Column transfer
beam Column design
- Column slenderness effect ... column width Storey height
design width slenderness effect Column width

- AC checker Etabs Software lateral force

MSCP (Multi storey Car Park Building) span 10m Column
moment
Column design moment

Company Project Column
Design moment effect
HDB Architecture

Architect drawing Etabs model simplified
structure point of view
model Model
GGVT tower Ruby Tower
JohnMoeEain : #31 ->: February 18, 2009, 01:44:46 PM

...
( ..... ...
Model member size ...
loading analysis ... load combination optimum result

.. result output Analysis result
.... print print ....
output
HDB Residential Building dimension ...
company building ..
(- 12'1.5" 12'
) model frame ..
run ....
chit tee : #32 ->: February 20, 2009, 11:49:46 AM

Analysis result
(Etabs analysis output Etabs
)
... Beam Design +/- Bending Moment, Shear & Torsion
spread sheet Design
plan view Bending moment Beam right click
Beam Bending moment, shear deflection
loading combination
design spread sheet Calculation
print
chit tee #38 ->: February 28, 2009, 11:45:51 AM

...
Architect ... Etabs Model
.... .... Architect
structure system ... Simplified

Architect Civil structure design Adjust Model
Architect Etabs modeling

chit tee # 42 ->: March 11, 2009, 10:20:35 AM

Etabs Modeling 32 storey Building
Model
Architect Column
Transfer Beam Model
chit tee #43 ->: March 11, 2009, 10:34:46 AM

36 storey Building Podium (Car Parking & Commercial) & Tower (office & Residential)
Etabs
Typical floor model HDB
company
modeling
JohnMoeEain #44 ->: March 26, 2009, 01:20:57 PM

.....
FEM ....
meshing ....
Etabs meshing Concept .........
chit tee #45 ->: March 28, 2009, 12:00:01 PM

FEM
Etabs Meshing Auto Mesh & Manual Mesh
()
Auto Mesh slab or wall imaginary mesh
run Warning
Warnings
Manual Mesh slab or wall
Run analysis results Warning Proper Mesh (
) (Auto Mesh + Manual Mesh)

....
Slab or Wall Shell element assign Mesh
Membrane assign Mesh
( error - )
JohnMoeEain #46 ->: April 07, 2009, 11:32:21 AM
To Ko Chit Tee...
If you have free time to discuss with me.. please discuss about Apply Code in Singapore.
I want to know:
For Wind Load => what code I need to learn?
For Seismic Force => what code I need to learn?
For RC Design => what code is more available? ACI or BS?
for me. I am familiar with only ACI. So, if I need to learn, what step I should to start?
with respect..
johnmoeeain
cloud6521 #47 ->: May 14, 2009, 01:10:30 PM
Ys I agree with Ko John. we would like to know which condition need to consider to do mesh.
chit tee #49 ->: May 14, 2009, 06:21:10 PM

ETABS MODEL
BS CODE
BS CODE
Lateral load Wind Load Horizontal Notional Load apply
Wind Load HDB
Wind pressure ...
13
0.6 kN/m2
13 25 0.75 kN/m2
25
1.0 kN/m2
Horizontal Notional Load Code .... Dead Load 1.5%

Lateral force
... MODEL Lateral
force apply force
JohnMoeEain #50 ->: May 18, 2009, 09:47:32 AM

.. ..
Shear Wall Beam & Column Spandral action Fully Etabs Model
..
?
chit tee #51 ->: June 12, 2009, 08:28:10 AM

Etabs .. Beam & Column Spandrel
()
Pier Spandrel Wall element
Lift Core wall Architect & M&E requirement model wall
model
opening wall Sprandel Beam
action wall Pier assign assign
output
model wall + opening ... wall
beam loading simplify ( Archi layout
)
chit tee #52 ->: September 23, 2009, 10:58:04 AM
Etabs Software Design Engineer
User friendly Structural Software

structural software software output

Structural design software Powerful (Structural Drawing
Material Estimation ... Drafter
)Powerful
Model performance Design
Design Concept experience
... "Etabs Modeling
"
Etabs

Etabs Software Modeling .... ()
Structure Etabs Modeling
Project Etabs Model

http://www.myanmarengineer.org/forum/index.php/topic,668.msg33151.html#msg33151
Supertree Model Supertree Structure
Structural Core
chit tee : #53 ->: September 23, 2009, 11:08:24 AM

Supertree Structure Structural Core
Steel Structure
Modeling
.. Modeling 50%
Loading Wind Load & Notional Horizontal Load
RC Core Structure frequency
chit tee : #54 ->: September 23, 2009, 01:50:07 PM

Modeling Drawing
Plan Detail
...
3D View Skin Structure

Extrusion
radial trunks tension member Cable ring
Model run stable

Architect ....
Column Typical Floor Transfer Beam
... Structural Design Engineer
Etabs 3D modeling ... Architect layout

Structural Design Concept ...
Simplify Simplify Structural Designer

Etabs Model Column transfer Project

Transfer Column
(100% - above 4th floor level)
foundation Roof Vertical element Lift Shaft

.. AC
Architect QP Design Engineers
Structural Layout ...
...
Model over all ..
100% Column Transfer Floor Transfer Beam
Etabs Model Column & Beam () line element

Wide Transfer Beam column Architect

Transfer Floor Extrusion
... ... Storey Drift Column &

Wall Design
(Transfer Beam Design Engineer )
Roubustness Check Etabs Loading Apply Columns between
3rd floor and 4th floor (from 4th floor to above Column )
Design of Ties Spread Sheet
Just to share my experience
: #61 ->: October 06, 2009, 10:19:12 PM

.....

Etabs model design Foundation Isolated footing
column Base Footing Joint ( Fix or Pin joint)
Model Run Result Hand calculation
Check

Model DOF
output
P.S

.....
.......
Isolated Footing Column Base Hinged Column
Moment Footing Design ...
Foundation Design
... ... Superstructure Design Foundation
Column Moment Foundation

...
4 (UBC97 4 )
ETABS Model Isolated Footing ..... Foundation
Design ... Footing SAFE Foundation Design
... Column Fix Assign
Column Base Hinged Support Model
chit tee : #63 ->: October 07, 2009, 11:06:21 AM

Model
37m Faciltiies ... Maintainence


LION GROVE ... Arial
walk way Cable
Gardens @ Marina Bay
Overall PLAN VIEW ....

ETABS Modeling for (4) ... Vertical Trunk Ring Tension Cable


Steel Tension Cable .... None area element (null area) Vertical Trunk
Horizontal Tension Cable
... Vertical Trunk Horizontal Tension Cable non structure elements (NSE)
... NSE Weight Model
Model Simplify
NSE Etabs Modeling for (3)
NSE Modeling 95%


.. ....
Modeling Error
used to Error Warning
Etabs ... Error

2D frame B.M & S.F Diagram
Error Warning
Analysis Run Deformed Shape Software Animation
... member member support

Model Point Displacement ... Warning

Beam & Column Software Default
Hinged Action Moment Release
Column (Foundation ) Degeree of Freedom ....
Designer Pinned or Fixed
Desiger

ETABS E
rror Warning ...
***WARNING***
THE STRUCTURE IS UNSTABLE OR ILL-CONDITIONED !!
CHECK THE STRUCTURE CAREFULLY FOR:
- INADEQUATE SUPPORT CONDITIONS, OR
- ONE OR MORE INTERNAL MECHANISMS, OR
- ZERO OR NEGATIVE STIFFNESS PROPERTIES, OR
- EXTREMELY LARGE STIFFNESS PROPERTIES, OR
- BUCKLING UNDER P-DELTA LOADS (IF ANY), OR
- AN EIGEN SHIFT (IF ANY) ONTO A NATURAL FREQUENCY
Model Run Warning File\Last Analysis Run Log ...
Model Error
: A.Hom -> October 21, 2009, 05:30:09 PM
Beam steel Project

ETABS run member steel area
hand calculation bending moment diagram moment
top steel ,bottom steel
steel area

A.Hom
ETABS default Beam 3
Left Support, Mid Span Right Support default
... any location ... bending moment, shear, axial, deflection

design ...
Pull down menu ... Assign>Frame/Line>Frame Output Stations .... ..
Floating menu
Default 3
ETABS Model Modeling Loading Analysis Run Design

Code ....
... Steel Area
....
Reqd Left top steel longitudinal main steel .... 0.63 sq.in
... 3/4 dia bar
......
ACI Code Example Bar diameter ... ...
steel bar ...
Design Beam Design steel bar .. size

ACI Code No.6 bar (3/4 " diameter ) ...
19mm diameter
18 or 20 mm ... 18 mm
bar ... Safe ...

mm steel bar diameter Beam Schedule
bar diameter size ...
..... Beam / Column / wall Cover
.... Beam Design .... Clear Cover Final Design steel
1 layer ... 2 layer 3 layer ...
Beam Section Cover effective
depth final design
Model loading ...
...
zawzaw09 : #69 ->: October 26, 2009, 03:59:11 PM

Hi Ko Chitee,
If we design beam and column directly in model, pl may i know whether etabs design using
envelope of moment and shear. If yes, how etabs designs and if not, etabs design is safe or not. Pl kindly
explain.
Thurabo.bo : #70 ->: October 27, 2009, 08:09:08 PM

Conservation Work
Sorry! Etabs
Etabs RC ?

ETABS Define () Code Auto create Load Combination
Moment & Shear Force
Load Combination
ETABS ....
ETABS 3D Analysis & Design software Beam Design .... Pattern Load

3D ... Pattern Load
Cover Facility ETABS
.... ETABS Beam Design .... Hogging Moment
... Sagging Moment ... Simple Support Moment

.....
ETABS RC Design CP65 (Singapore RC Code) ETABS CP65
....
BS8110 97
.... Gamma (Steel) factor 1.05 1.15

ETABS ......
1) Steel Design
2) Reinforcement Concrete Design
3) Composite Beam Design
4) Shear Wall Design
......

thurabo.bo ...
.. http://www.myanmarengineer.org/forum/index.php/topic,657.msg36712.html#msg36712
Prokon V2.4
....
: #74 ->: December 02, 2009, 03:18:53 PM
ETABS Model Design Print

Print Graphic Print Output Result ( Steel area )

Thanks in advance!

Model Print ... 2
() ETABS Window Short Cut button Print Graphics (Ctrl+P)

Print ....
() Screen button Print
() Pull down menu "File" Print Preview for Graphics Command ....
Preview Print

...
(
MODEL ...
Print out (21.12.2009)
synthesis #76 ->: December 21, 2009, 10:51:11 PM
Etabs Bridges Modeling ?

Bridges Modeling softwar ?
...
...
chit tee : #77 ->: December 22, 2009, 08:03:27 AM

ETABS Supertree http://www.myanmarengineer.org/forum/index.php/topic,1413.msg34184.html#msg34184 3D
structure .... ETABS Bridges Modeling
... ETABS Bridge Design

Facility
ETABS Modeling SAP2000 export SAP2000 ETABS
SAP2000 ETABS Command

ETABS SAP2000 General Structure
... Bridge Design Facility (

) ...
SAP2000 Software Bridge Design
SAP2000
http://www.csiberkeley.com/products_SAP.html
http://www.csiberkeley.com/SAP/SAP_bridges.html
SAP2000 Video tutorial Free
http://www.csiberkeley.com/Support_WL_SAP.html
SAP2000 Technical Paper (pdf format) Free
http://www.csiberkeley.com/support_technical_papers.html
( )
SAP2000
http://www.myanmarengineer.org/forum/index.php/topic,657.msg35525.html#msg35525
SAP2000 Bridge Design ....
SAP2000 BRIDGE MODULE (Requires Plus or Higher)
SAP2000 is available in three different levels: Basic
(B), Plus (P) and Advanced (A). Different add-on modules are also available: Bridge (BR), Offshore/wave (OS),
Staged Construction (SC). A letter in parenthesis following a feature identifies the version(s) that is associated
with it.
PARAMETRIC BRIDGE MODELING
Bridge Wizard with Step by Step Guidance to Create a Bridge Model
Parametric Bridge Model Templates
Highway Layout Lines Definition using Horizontal & Vertical Curves
Super Elevations and Skews
Parametric Cross Sections Box Girders & Steel Composites
Cross Sections May Vary Along Bridge Length
Parametric Post Tensioning Tendon Layout for Box Girders
Abutments with User Defined Support Conditions
Bents with Single or Multiple Columns
Hinges
Layered Shell Element
Lane Definition Using Highway Layout or Frame Objects
Automatic Application of Lane Loads to Bridge
Predefined Vehicle and Train Loads
BRIDGE DESIGN OPTIONS
Moving Loads with 3D Influence Surface

Moving Loads with Multi-Step Analysis
Lane Width Effects
P/T Concrete Box Girder Design
Composite Steel Deck Bridge Design
Straight & Curved Girder Design
AASHTO, LFD & LRFD and BS 5400-2 Codes
Dynamic Effects of Moving Loads
BRIDGE RESULTS & OUTPUT
Influence Lines and Surfaces
Forces and Stresses Along and Across Bridge
Displacement Plots
Graphical and Tabulated Outputs
ADVANCED ANALYSIS OPTIONS (Requires Advanced)
Segmental Construction (SC)
Include the Effects of Creep, Shrinkage Relaxation
Pushover Analysis using Fiber Models
Bridge Base Isolation and Dampers
Explicitly Model Contact Across Gaps
Nonlinear Large Displacement Cable Analysis
Line and Surface Multi-Linear Springs (P-y curves)
High Frequency Blast Dynamics using Wilson FNA
Nonlinear Dynamic Analysis & Buckling Analysis
Multi-Support Seismic Excitation
Animated Views of Moving Loads
synthesis #78 ->: December 22, 2009, 02:49:26 PM
..
Etabs ...

SAP 2000
...

...
ETABS ...

...
ETABS ... SAP2000
...
data

childplay : #82 ->: January 02, 2010, 12:15:27 AM

Etabs .... Etabs
... ...
Etabs Singapore modelling ... 20 , 30
Building Error model ...Error check ...
1. loading run Check model the whole building Warning
..
2. Analysis log file ..Warning x ,y
coordinate model ...
Etabs model Warning
....Model run ..unstable warning ..
... ....Warning ...nodes point
... Slab
. ..Warning Zoom ...nodes
......Finite Element Method nodes point to point loading ...
...loading .....
Slab .......Slab tools slab
...Slab ...nodes points 3 or 4 ... .. 4 nodes
...Slab ......loading run Slab loading
Foundation ....Slab 3 nodes or 4 nodes
... ...nodes to nodes ..... ..Slab
.. ... ..Slab ... Meshing manual
... ......
Singapore .. Flat slab ...Beam
..Drop pannels ..Column ...Meshing
... Run time ...
Flat Slab Column ...Slab ...nodes to
nodes point Column ..FEM Assumption
.........shell element ..local axis

...... .Slab ......
..( R,W,B ) ...Local axis ...... ..Loading
... shell stress ... M1-1 , M2-2 , M3-3 ...
...Member Local Axis .....Column .. Column ..Local
Axis .. Red,Blue ,white ...... M1 ..Red colour Axis
..Moment ...( M2 for White , M3 for Blue ) ...Column Axis
...Moment ...
Singapore building Column ..Tributary area method ..Load taking
Loading ..Axial only Design ... biaxial uniaxial
...method ...Column Moment design ....
.. ... ..Column design
...... ...
chit tee : #83 ->: January 02, 2010, 11:47:49 AM

MEF

childplay ...

childplay
Etabs .... Etabs
... ...
Etabs Singapore modelling ... 20 , 30
Building Error model ...Error check ...
1. loading run Check model the whole building Warning
..
Check model
Warning the whole model Run File>Last Analysis Run Log...
Warning Check model
Run File>Last Analysis Run Log ...
Warnings Model Check... trace
Warning
2. Analysis log file ..Warning x ,y
coordinate model ...
x,y coordinate warning ... Warning
point point (Auto Mesh slab point

)
Model Analysis File>Last Analysis Run Log...
Warning ......
- Complex structure ( structure ) Slab Shell
element Auto Meshing Manual Mesh Meshing Line Line Line

- Wall Meshing Line Slab Meshing Line
Meshing Line
pass through Meshing Warning
Auto Mesh Manual Mesh
Slab Membrane assign .. Meshing Warning
Limitation

Slab Plate assign
Warning ... point Warning Meshing Properly

( Reactions)
Model Warning Time Limit

Etabs model Warning
....Model run ..unstable warning ..
... ....Warning ...nodes point
... Slab
. ..Warning Zoom ...nodes
......Finite Element Method nodes point to point loading ...
...loading .....
node to node Assign>Shell/Area>Auto Line Constraints...
Warning
Slab .......Slab tools slab
...Slab ...nodes points 3 or 4 ... .. 4 nodes
...Slab ......loading run Slab loading
Foundation ....Slab 3 nodes or 4 nodes
... ...nodes to nodes ..... ..Slab
.. ... ..Slab ... Meshing manual
... ......
4 nodes Slab .. Cookie cut node 5
Loading
Shell element Slab Assign (Auto or Manual) Meshing

Loading (reaction) meshing
default Run Auto Mesh + Manual mesh
Warning
Singapore .. Flat slab ...Beam
..Drop pannels ..Column ...Meshing
... Run time ...
ETABS run time ... 21 storeyed GGVT
Twin Tower with Podium ( ) ...
computer 16 Run

Meshing ... Tower 2
Podium Finite Element Method node to node Loading Slab
shape meshing Warning Design
ETABS O/S (over stress) Run O/S
Seismic Design
Torsion & Axial force effect Beam
Flat Slab Column ...Slab ...nodes to
nodes point Column ..FEM Assumption
.........shell element ..local axis
...... .Slab ......
..( R,W,B ) ...Local axis ...... ..Loading
... shell stress ... M1-1 , M2-2 , M3-3 ...
...Member Local Axis .....Column .. Column ..Local
Axis .. Red,Blue ,white ...... M1 ..Red colour Axis
..Moment ...( M2 for White , M3 for Blue ) ...Column Axis
...Moment ...
... Case Shell element
ETABS slab Moment Flat Slab Local Axis
Local Axis Slab Force
moment stress Local Axis
Flat Slab Design SAFE () STRAP
ETABS Slab Design facility
Singapore building Column ..Tributary area method ..Load taking

Loading ..Axial only Design ... biaxial uniaxial
...method ...Column Moment design ....
HDB ... Column side (max: 300 mm width)
Beam moment release M3-M3 Axial only Final Design
private column moment
.. ... ..Column design

...... ...
chit tee : #86 ->: January 06, 2010, 09:07:03 PM

ETABS Section Database steel section W, S,L section
section Design
Section Database
Z ( sectional modulus )

Zawzaw09 : #87 ->: January 07, 2010, 09:02:29 AM

,
section database steel section concrete section user defined
For steel, .... Define/Frame section/ click to Import ... or Add ....(general section name like as Add
Tee, Add angle..)
For concrete section.....Define/Frame section/ click to Add SD section Tool box section
designer ..........
.....
zawzaw09
safe.strong : #88 ->: January 29, 2010, 01:52:21 AM

I have been used Eab since 2001 ( Yangon).
Etab is easy software. Good
Tip for Etab:
1. define material specification ( It is important. E and other data)
2. Define sections (shape : moment of inertia )

3. modeling
4. loading
5. analysis & Design (according to selected code)
6. design review
7. Detailing
Point No1. material specification
E=> stress / strain ( constant factor for specific material ) withing elastic range.
strength of material ( compress or tension)
Poisson's ratio = (normally 0.15 to 0.2) for concrete
It is vertical and horizontal deformation ration due to applied force on unique surface.
weight, mass, thermal expansion, others are also important.
Point No2. Section shape
For concrete: colums,beams,Slabs, ( concrete cover is important )
Normally, For concrete cover ( fire resistance)=1.5" , we should put 1.8" cover in etab (
outside face to rebar center).
Point No3. Modeling
- grid line
- Framing add
- Slab, wall and stair
- Slabs & walls meshing ( It is important for FEM analysis )
( Normally: each slab should need to mesh at least 3 parts)
Without meshing on slabs or walls, Calculation of FEM is 100% mistake. Computer only understand
that one slab is one mesh.
- Be care on unit shown in Etab
- For RC analysis: END length offset are not required.
For Steel Structure design: End length offset are need to consider.
- Base point ( so called footing points)
pin (for isolated footing)
Point 4. Loading (according to applied CODE)
- line, pressure.
- Superimposed load ( Normally pressure load)
- Lateral Load
- Earthquake load if required.
Point 5. Analysis & design
- Normal analysis
- + earthquake analysis
1. Static analysis ( base on F= ma) < Law of conservation of energy>
in this case: mass is the main factor ( weight of building)

It is essential step for earthquake analysis.
We need to know ( base shear and how to applied on each level)
2. Dynamic analysis ( Node shape & Shape analysis) depend on moment of inertia of building (
3 dimensional)
this analysis check the building with moment of inertia factor.
(+ mode shape pattern)
This analysis only check how to effect on each member according to their shape and
applied force on it.
We can not get the exact base shear from this analysis. It is only to check force distribution.
So,We need to applied known base shear to dynamic analysis.
Base shear for Dynamic analysis (90% of static analysis) =< the result of static analysis
result.
It is why ( Law of conservation of energy).
The applied base shear of earth quake force is constant for ( specific weight of building and
specific pGA ( acceleration of earth quake )).
Point 6:
Design Review
- review, assign, analysis, design.
Point 7: Detailing
-As per CP (what we used)
thanks,
To share knowledge:
my email: safe.strong@gmail.com
: #89 ->: January 29, 2010, 05:11:42 PM

...
ETABS RC Design Beam & Column sizes assign anlysis &
design assign Beam & Column sizes reasonable
sizes change ETABS Design result
Design beam right click result
summary flexural reinforcement for moment, shear reinforcement for shear, reinforcement for
torsion required rebar area Longitudinal reinforcement
stirrup required rebar area
analysis member force results member force diagram for
frames dialoge box force component shear2-2, shear3-3, moment2-2, moment3-3 2-
2 3-3 member axis Y-Y Z-Z

chit tee : #90 ->: January 30, 2010, 10:54:04 AM

ETABS Analysis & Design RC Design Beam & Column sizes change
OK () size ....
Manually Analysis & Design
Steel Design Section define
...
steel member Auto Select List steel structure Assign
Analysis & Design
Steel section economical section ETABS
Auto
==================================================================
result summary
() flexural reinforcement for moment Longitudinal reinforcement (Main Bar)
() shear reinforcement for shear Stirrup
() reinforcement for torsion (BS Code design ) Torsion
Longitudinal bar area & stirrup steel
()()
screen .... ...
===================================================================
Main Bar (Longitudinal reinforcement) ... Moment 3-3
Stirrup Shear 2-2

: #91 ->: January 30, 2010, 02:13:00 PM

... ...
example frame RC Beam sizes 24"x12" Analysis &
Design okay Beam sizes 18"x10" Analysis & Design
warning
RC Beam & Column sizes change OK () size
? RC size Analysis & Design

size

Beam Size 24"x12" OK Beam Size 18"x10" OK
Loading Beam 18"x12" 18"x10" OK
Steel Area Beam Size Steel Area (Min Steel )
Beam Size Minimum Steel Area Size

Size OK O/S (Overstress)
Professional ... Design Beam Size
Size Economical Beam Size
Safe economical Size ...
... Company
Beam Size Building Economical
Construction Site
.. 6 Span Beam Size 5 6 Site formwork
parameter beam Size Architect

size
( Design
)
: #93 ->: January 30, 2010, 02:55:30 PM
Design beam detail summary longitudinal main rebar steel area

Required rebar Minimum rebar example Top & Bottom
steel area (required & minimum) design

example beam size 24"x12" steel area (for Top) Required rebar
=Minimum rebar=0.287 sqin beam size 20"x10" Required rebar =Minimum rebar=0.292
sqin << Beam Size Minimum Steel Area
Size >>
Beam Size Minimum Steel Area Beam Size over under

Minimum Steel Area

loading
safe.strong : #94 ->: January 30, 2010, 06:14:33 PM

ko nga yoke kaung
actually, this question is for ko chit.
i think, ko chit is out of reach,
i try to answer to your question.
Actually,
Etab do not give minimum steel areas.
Shown steel ares (at compression sides) are requirement steel for lateral ( earthquake) resistance which is
depend on ( sway types).
Special sway, intermediate sway, non sway.
Etab calculates automatically ( depend on member's sway assignment ).
Minnimum steel area for R.C members are depend on CP (country).
Temperature & shrinkage steel ( depend Delta temperature changes ) + Shrinkage after concrete casting (
because of chemical used < Portland > + Long term reaction after casting.
Depend on weather of region (country), CP for minimum steel are varies.
.........................................................................................
Short cut for Assuming member section creation ( to use ) in Etab
AND, How to get the optimized section before analysis and design.
For Column.
Step 1. calculate the Un factor load of selected column before creation section
By manual,
Assume slab thk. ( based on area) , parameter /180 OR others for ....
will be some pressure load eg
: a psf
Assume Cladding load + RC member ( we can get average pressure load) ...........will be some
pressure load eg : b psf
Assume super imposed load
selected live load (pressure)
................: c psf
..............: d psf
So, we will get final Un factor pressure load : a + b+ c + d = A psf

we can get the possible axial reaction at column at each level.
B, Reaction of Column (lb)= A psf x (tabulated area sqft) x number of floors

optimized section area ( column) = 4 x ( B/ f'c)
where, f'c is the selected concrete compressive strength.
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For Beams, ( normal structure )
As every body , depth = 0.6 to 0.85 x span
( but , it is really depend on selected material strength, f'c, Fy)
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Just share NAW, please try and check.
Thanks
synthesis : #95 ->: January 30, 2010, 09:07:39 PM
....
Section Designer Design Import ....
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synthesis ...
- http://www.myanmarengineer.org/forum/index.php/topic,6260.msg44570.html#msg44570
: #97 ->: January 31, 2010, 04:57:11 AM

Hello! ko safe.strong,
Thank you for your explaining. But may i ask you some question.
1) what is the meaning of CP which was shown in your discussion (eg. Minimum steel area for R.C
members are depend on CP (country))?
2) can u explain me the choosing of optimized size for Column with example before Analysis and
Design.
with regard

helo Ko nga yoke kaung
As I know, I try to explain ,
Point 1. CP means " code of practice" .
As you know, example, CP xx ( depend on work scope - )
Every country has CP for Engineering work ( Not in Myanmar - MES try to do this, later on ).
It is " how to call - Rule , regulation, guide lines , " Practice
<Typical> procedure, ways, rules according to their country's requirement" .
Example: BS code for Design is " a CP reference for design where
as England & dissociated countries " .
ACI for UAS, e.t.c,
UBC,Euro,
JIS for japan et.c,
So, depend on Relative CP ( CODE ), there may be a little
difference in practical usage.
Column size assuming: ( for normal resident building ) According to my experience, Very general
approached method.
Concept:
required section area of column = 4 times x { (applied load / concrete compressive
strength (f'c) }
It is the first approached method to get an assumed column size ( for Etab member
define ).
so, we will get very closed size, later on after first analysis & design check, we will
need to revise this column at least one times ( depend on result ) < a little large or a little small in section
area > OR if we are lucky, it will be in fit.
- If our size is OK ( 1% of concrete section area ). It is the good practice for
choosing steel area.
We should find a section ( closed to 1% of concrete area ).
- To know how Etab accept (allowable ) column steel ( see CODE & concept design
manual - attached in Etab with pdf ).
Depend on selected COD ( design). Allowable % of steel in columns are ( a little
varies ). some CODE allow up to 4 % with limitation.
- It is a very general design approached ( if you wish to design in detail < we
should need to check column's interaction curve >.)
Good Luck
: #99 ->: January 31, 2010, 10:19:14 PM

hi ko safe.strong,
Does ETABS give new section size of column or beam after first analysis & design? i think ETABS only gives
required steel areas for them.
Ko NYK
You are right.
Etab dont give section ( exception of steel design < auto select list >).
Give only required steel area ( RC section ) for each section.
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