Moka = Nirva = Apavarga -liberation from karma -involves a sense of retirement in this life, we desire retirement in the cycle

of rebirths, therefore, we also desire retirement Nyya -Orthodox, insofar as it claims to be within the Vedic tradition Objections -what is the sense of destruction? -is it a qualified sense? -is it unqualified? What is the connection between Ngrjunian philosophy and Nyya? Why would one need to know about this sense of moka? Conceptually, either duhkha or sukha must be defined negatively. Either Sukha then not all duhkha Or Duhkha then not all sukha If both, neither can be without the other. The second option is Hajime Nakamuras interpretation. i.e. if all Duhkha then not all sukha = if all sukha, not all duhkha. But the first is more accurate i.e. if Sukha then not all duhkha = if all duhkha, not all sukha if all duhkha, then all not sukha if not all not sukha, then not all duhkha if all sukha, then all not duhkha if not all not duhkha, then not all sukha sopdiea nirva niruphdiea nirva Phaedo; last scene