Back to Chanh Leo's question about career: when you said your ultimate goal is to land a

internship and then a job in the US, it seems like you know that there're gonna be trade-offs.
You'll need to think about what the market wants, what you want to do, and what you have
to offer. The ideal job would be the overlapping point between these three. If you can't land
such a job right after school, think about where to get you closer/ faster to it. Apparently,
people can help you with the first piece: what the market wants, but you have to figure out
the second and third pieces yourself. That's the hardest part. I think you should be clear
about these two, or at least where they overlap. The job/ internship searching process will
help you with this. That's one of the reasons why schools push you to do it early (The other
reason is, each career path has its own timing, where companies will start, and end the
recruiting process. If you miss it, you'll find yourself compete with a larger number of
candidates for fewer, if any, openings).

Hihi, c my bi v trng thnh ca anh H post trn y mi nh ngy xa mnh ngh

trng thnh nh i tm "chn kinh." Ai tm xong ri th s thnh "chnh qu." Tc l c 1
turning point, trc turning point th l "ngi cha trng thnh", cn sau th
trng thnh. Ri h hi mong mnh sm t n "turning point" . By gi li thy l
mt qu trnh (hoc l mnh tu km, mi cha c chn kinh

) Mnh by gi trng

thnh hn mnh lc trc, nhng nhn quanh vn thy cn hc tp nhiu attitude, tc

phong sng v hnh x ca cc bn khc, hiu mnh hn. Nu good isn't enough, th
khng bit lc no qu trnh mi ngng.
Mnh ngh thay i mi trng sng + c s hiu k l 2 cht xc tc tt nht. Khi thay i
mi trng sng, mnh c gp nhng ngi khc mnh, d hn, hay khng hn, cng a
cho mnh ci reference point, mnh hiu nhng th mnh vn thy l hin nhin nhng
khng h hin nhin. C s hiu k, mnh nhn thy v tm hiu nhng iu khc bit .
Mnh c 1 ci v d rt ng ngn v vn, mi ln k ra mnh ngh cc bn mnh khng thy
significant nhng li l mt th kh amazing vi mnh. Bn tay mnh, ngn tay eo nhn di
hn ngn tay tr. V bn tay l ci mnh sinh ra vn th, cng vi vic ch em mnh u th,
nn mnh ngh tay ai cng c cu trc nh vy. Hi i hc, ti lp c tr bi tay, khi xe tay
ra mnh mi thy khng phi tay ai cng ging mnh. Bi hc ca mnh lc l c nhng
iu mnh tng ng chc 100% cha chc ng, phi em kim chng mi c. Chc
khi mnh cn nh (tm lp 5 g ), nn mnh thy n significant lm. Sau ny mi ln
thay i mi trng sng, mnh li thy nhiu ci v d "bn tay" hn.
Mnh ngh sng vi b m hay khng ch l 1 phn nh trong qu trnh trng thnh thi.
n gin nh bn ny, cc bn khng sng cng b m, nhng mnh thy trng thnh
trong suy ngh, hnh ng ca cc bn cng khc nhau.
c bi "sung sng qu by t c n" mnh cm nhn c s trch c ca 1 bn 9x
(vit bi?) vi cha m l bo bc bn qu, khng cho bn di dt, vp ng. Mnh ngh
cch tip cn tt hn vi vn ny nn l: mnh l 1 big investment ca cha m, cha m
nh l investor, tt nhin s mun thn trng vi investment . Mnh l cng ty, nu mnh
thy mnh c nhng "strategic decisions" no tt v long term m c th khng "safe" v
short term, th mnh cn communicate vi investor , ease in, investor nhn ra. Khi nhn

ra long term value, nht nh l s ng h. Mnh "own" ci s trng thnh ca mnh, ch

khng phi cha m.
B m mnh cng l nhng ngi rt bao bc con ci, n by gi vn thng mnh sng xa
nh, bn ba vt v

Mnh thy iu tt p nht b m dnh cho mnh l lc no

cng yu thng mnh, cho d mnh c th no chng na. Nu b m yu thng mnh v

iu kin, ti sao mnh li khng yu thng b m nh th? B m c hc MBA u, c lm
self awareness u, c theo hc trng dy parenting u m c sai lm 1 cht li trch b
m?! Ni chung bi hc trng thnh ln nht mnh hc c l accept 100% responsibility
of your life.

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Nh mt th tc khi nhn lp mi, gio s ngi an Mch, thy Flemming Svith, gi s
yu l lch ca mnh cho c lp xem trc. Ln trong cc thnh tch nghin cu khoa hc,
ti thy ngc nhin khi l lch c ghi hai nm kinh nghim du lch bi (backpacking) Nam
My.
Ln u tin ti thy mt hc gi ghi nhn qung thi gian lng bng ca mnh vo CV.
Sau ny c dp ni chuyn nhiu hn, thy bo rt t ho v hnh trnh . ng ni l hai
nm gip ng tm ra l sng i mnh.
Thy Flemming c hai a con trai. Ngi con u ca ng cht ui khi i tnh nguyn
Kenya, bi kch n by gi ti vn thy ni bun trong mt ng. Nhng ng khng cn a
con th hai ra i khi cu mun sang Italy du hc. Mt ngi tm c mnh t nhng chuyn
i s hiu c gi tr ca n ln nh th no.
Khng t ngi phng Ty ging nh thy Flemming. H khao kht khm ph th gii t
gn mt nghn nm trc, vi Marco Polo v Con ng t la ni chu u vi chu A. Khi
ngi Vit, ngi Trung ang b quan ta cng th Columbus tm ra chu My, ri Magellan i
vng quanh a cu.
Th h con chu ca h by gi vn tip tc xch ba l v du hnh khp nm chu. Vi h,
du hnh khng phi l hin tng, m tr thnh mt chuyn bnh thng. Hu ht cc bn
tre u dnh mt nm trng (gap year) sau cp 3 i bi trc khi vo i hc hoc i

lm.
Vit Nam trong vng chc nm tr li y, gii tre x dch nhiu hn. Ngi ln xe my i
pht n cc min xa ca T quc, hay xch ba l du lch bi nc ngoi, bng cch
ny hay cch khc, h dn bc chn ra nhn cuc sng bng chnh i mt ca mnh.
Trong mt nn vn ha truyn thng cao trt t v n nh, vic i li khng ch ch ny
nhn nhiu ch trch. C ngi cho rng l vic v b, ph thi gian. Ngi th s nhng
him nguy trn ng: t tai nn xe c cho n gp ke xu. Ngi li lo con ci mi chi m
xao nhng hc hnh, s nghip.
C nhn ti cho rng trong cuc sng, vic g cng c chi ph c hi: c ci ny th phi
mt ci khc. Nhng ti ngh, d c tnh n tt c nhng ri ro trn, th vic i ra, nhn
thy, v nghe thy th gii cng ng lm. V cuc sng khng ch gi gn trn mn hnh
my tnh hay trong bn bc tng lp hc.
i nhiu khng m bo cho s thnh t, nhng chc chn n s lm giu thm vn sng
ca mi ngi. Nhng ngi ti gp trn cc chuyn i, Vit Nam hay nc ngoi, u nhn
th gii bng tm lng ci m v bao dung vi s khc bit. H kt bn khng phn bit
mu da, chng tc, tui tc, hay thm ch l ngn ng. H cng trng thnh v d thch
nghi vi mi trng sng khc nhau. Trong mt th gii m nh hin nay, c l l nhng
tnh cch quan trng tn ti.
Nhng chuyn i cng c hiu qu trong vic khi gi tnh yu ng bo v x s, th m t
lu x hi vn cho l ang mt dn i trong thi bui kinh t th trng. Bi khng c g i
thng n tri tim nhanh bng nhng g hin ra trc mt.
V min Ty ma nc ni, chng ta khng ch thy ng qu thanh bnh m c cuc sng
lam l ca ngi nng dn. Ln H Giang chp nh vi hoa tam gic mch v i eo M
P Leng, nhng cng thy nhng a tre khng qun o mc vy tay cho trong sng
m rt cm cm. Nhng chuyn i, d vi mc ch g, u to ra si dy gn b v hnh vi
mnh t mnh i qua.
C th chng ta s phi tri qua nhng giy pht mt mi trn ng di, hay khonh khc
ng s nh c gi Vit b kt trong bo tuyt trn dy Himalaya. Nhng i li s l nhng
tri nghim ng nh v quan trng hn, l mt con ngi trng thnh.
Mt nh trit hc c i tng ni th gii l mt cun sch, nhng ngi khng du hnh ch
c duy nht mt trang. Mun hon thnh cun sch v i , chng ta phi i khi cn c
th

Suy ngh v tui i mi

- Hnh trnh ca con ngi lc mi sinh ra mnh ph thuc 100% vo cha m v mi trng
xung quanh, ri qu trnh trng thnh l qu trnh "c lp" dn, trong tim thc mun th
hin ci tnh cch c nhn. V d: chinh phc mt gic m no y, th hin l mnh lm
c ci ny ci kia.
Ri trng thnh hn na l "interdependent".
Theo chiu hng t nhin mun c lp v khng nh nh th th tui i mi nn c mt
vi "ngi hng" noi theo v c gng. Nu may mn chn ai t t v gii giang i theo
c th tt nht, trnh b ma a li qu a ng vo ng ct mc d lc u c th hp
dn. Mun c lp nhng vn cn ch n l ci g l tng.
Cng theo xu hng mun khng nh bn thn nh vy, c gng tri nghim i du lch c
y , lm mt vi iu g anh hng, dm th thch, dm tht bi, dm ng ln i tip.
Tt c nhng kinh nghim l cn thit, v tui tre nn cng c nhiu cng tt.
- Sai lm ca tui i mi: c th c lp qu
Chnh v xu hng khng nh chnh mnh mun "c lp" (independent) ca tui i mi
m cc bn tre c th c lp qu v thiu s hp tc vi ngi khc, hay c hp tc cng
ch nhn thy ci views ca mnh v khng bit "nhn" nhng ci hay ca mi th ca mi
ngi xung quanh. C th thy ai gp th b t i v khc quan im ca chnh mnh.
Giai on trng thnh l khi bt u chuyn t independent sang inter-dependent vi mi
trng xung quanh, thy ng ngng v t cc cu hi th v, thay v coi nh cng u bit
ht mi th ri. Khi interdependent s thy cuc sng ca kinh nghim ca ai cng c ci
hay hc hi, t ngi li xe m, chu b ti c gi, thy mnh bit m tht ra chng bit
g c.
i vi mnh trc khi thy chn th cha mun chuyn sang giai on
interdependent. :-)
:-)
Hin

Em i vy ch khng cnh tranh bng ci ny th cnh tranh bng ci g? Ch i hc tt nhin

l mun m rng tm nhn ny n, nhng mc tiu cui cng vn l c job, job tt, lng
cao.
My bi bo di qu, mnh khng c nn khng dm comment. My kin ny c th
irrelevant vi cc bi bo (do mnh khng c), nhng v ti hc ra m bo "a
lucrative career" hay change the world th bn thn mnh thy:
1. c thc mi vc c o, nu nhn maslow's hierarchy of needs, "a lucrative career" va
lm mnh thy safe, va t ho, reinforce ci self esteem ca mnh. Mun thc hin l tng
g th cng phi c self confidence. Mnh nhn vo nhng ngi i lm t thin, k c h

dedicate career cho cc t chc nh, hay nhng bc CEO v hu, mnh ngh h u phi c
self confidence th mi lm c. Self confidence c th n t nhng ngun khc nhau. Vi
mnh, "a lucrative career" l 1 ngun drive self confidence, khng nh cho mnh l mnh
c value nhiu hn ngi khc, hn c nhng a bn smart th cng sng. Mnh on
nhng a "type A" hay competitive nh ti chn hc elite school cng s c suy ngh tng
t.
2. mun thc hin l tng cao p th cng phi c "enablers." Tt nhin l khng c
enablers vn lm c vic tt, nhng nu so mnh vi Bill Gates hay mnh ca 10 nm na
(assuming l mnh 10 nm na thnh cng hn by gi), th impact v ting ni ca i
tng sau c nh hng ln hn nhiu. Long term efficiency!
3. arguably l nu "a career" "lucrative" th x hi cng phi value n, n cng em li
gi tr tt cho x hi, cng gp phn "change the world." Sometimes they just make the two
seem mutually exclusive.
Ni chung vn phi balance gia thc t v l tng. Khng c thc t th khng "change the
world" c. C nhn mnh thy 1 s bn dng "dreams," "do what you love" bin h cho
tnh li - thnh thong mnh cng li th.
Hi c "Cun theo chiu gi" c 1 on mnh nh l khi c Scarlet hi Rhett v
opportunistic l tt hay khng tt (c Scarlet thuc loi street smart). Anh y bo, i l
y l t ca nhng ngi khng nhn thy hoc nhn thy m khng nm bt c c hi
dnh cho nhng ngi nm bt c nhng c hi . Ci mnh rt ra t l vic ngi ta
name ci hnh ng ca mnh bng 1 t negative khng c ngha bn cht hnh ng l
negative nh th.

Cu ny chc mi ngi kh tr li v rt personal. Tuy nhin nu bn em a ra mt vi

case c th vi s nm kinh nghim trc MBA, tnh cht cng vic trc MBA, ngnh hc,
target market (ngnh ngh, a im) th chc mi ngi c th gip a ra mc khi im
c.
Nhn tin, nu ch tnh ton thu nhp da trn lng khi im l khng chnh xc lm.
V c nhn mnh lun chn vic vi target rt c th v hp nn cng kh ni c chnh xc
th trng ni chung. Tuy nhin 2 ln v Vit Nam v kinh nghim kim talent hin ti thy
c my bi hc chia xe vi mi ngi tham kho v bnh lun (assume l bn s v VN):
1. Value s quyt nh salary nu bn bit position cht, c bit l v long run. V vy
chn mi trng nng value ca mnh s hiu qu hn l ch chn starting salary.
2. Growth quan trng hn starting salary. Tt c nhng th mnh hc trong trng s
khng thay i level ca mnh khi v VN. Thm ch mnh c th cn khi im thp hn trc
MBA hay nhng ngi cng la khng i hc MBA. Tuy nhin n s cho mnh tc . Nu
chn mi trng c th grow, mnh s c mt level khc hn trong vi nm.

3. Lng v benefit cho cc v tr quan trng ph thuc c vo chi ph c hi v

alternative ca cng ty. Lng VN ngoi cc gi tr t thn cn ph thuc my yu t
nh: chi ph c hi ca ngnh/cng ty, cc cng ty khc m cng ty phi cnh tranh c
nhn s cn thit, kh nng o to ni ti ca cng ty cho nhng v tr tng t... V d nh
nhng ngnh nh u t v ngn hng chi ph c hi hin ti ln nn sn sng tr lng
irrationally. V d khc nh ngnh cng ngh hin phi cnh tranh vi cc cng ty My hay
chu u kim ngi tt nn lng cng phi cao tng ng.
4. Kinh nghim v kh nng c gi tr khc nhau trong nhng mng khc nhau.
Trong cc mng nh kinh doanh, u t hay trong cc cng ty start-up, kh nng c nhn v
network quan trng hn kinh nghim lm vic nc ngoi cho d hai yu t ny c tng
quan mt cht. Trong cc mng set up operations, lm vic vi khch hng hay cng ty nc
ngoi, hay phi adopt international practice tht nhanh, kinh nghim lm vic nc ngoi rt
quan trng.
5. Fixed salary khng l tt c. Fixed salary ty theo v tr v cng ty nhng c th ch
chim 50-70% tng thu nhp. Phn performance bonus, stock hay option c th kh cao.
Thn,
Tin.

Trc y L cng tng post 1 bi v vn ny y:

http://www.vnmbahelpnetwork.com/show...p?t=204&page=2
l thi im L ang chn trng apply. Lc L t hi mnh rt seriously v "why
MBA?". Nu ch care v return on investment (in terms of money), th nn chn trng no
cht lng vn tt v mnh c kh nng xin c full scholarship. Nu tht s mnh care ti
nhiu th khc hn l tin th nn chn trng no m mnh thy l hp vi mnh nht.
Khng tr li c cu hi ny (tin???) v cng khng sure lm v chance ca mnh nn L
apply nc i: 1 nhm l cc trng top vi mc tiu l khng care v scholarship - ch cn
c admission l i, mt nhm l mid-tier schools vi hy vng l c full scholarship th mi
i.
Sau ny khi nhn c kt qu t tt c cc trng v n lc phi seriously evaluate cc
trng chn 1 trng duy nht m mnh s theo hc, L c nh li ci bi bo v return
on investment cho cc MBA program ny v khng khi bun ci.
Bun ci v:
- Bi bo ny ch ph hp cho quyt nh "MBA or not MBA", ch khng ph hp cho quyt
nh "which school". Vy m tc gi bi bo li c ly ci phn tch ROI ny ra so snh
cc trng vi nhau, ngha l gip applicant chn trng. Tht l non-sense!
- Ngay c i vi quyt nh "MBA or not MBA", kiu phn tch ny m em ra p dng vi
cc sinh vin Vit Nam vn con nh thng dn o vi c hn nh mnh th tht l chng c

ngha l g.
Ti sao bi bo khng ph hp vi quyt nh "which school"?
- Bi phn tch c a vo chi ph c hi trong 2 nm hc MBA. Chi ph c hi ca 1 em hc
HBS trung bnh l $250k, trong khi hc ph l khong $90k. Ta c th thy tin hc ph chng
ng l bao so vi chi ph c hi. M tin hc ph th chng chnh lch bao nhiu nu so
trng ny vi trng khc, gii lm l chnh lch khong $50k ch g. Vy nu i hc HBS
th em ny mt $340k cho 2 nm, cn i hc 1 trng no-name no th cng mt t nht
$290k cho 2 nm. Vy th, em ny buc phi i HBS ch chng l mt $290k li cn m
u vo mt ci trng no-name, hc chung vi nhng ngi c profile thua mnh? l
cha k l averagely (bi bo ny ang tnh cc average cases ch khng em extreme
cases ra so vi nhau nh), hc HBS ra th d kim job hn, ngun post-MBA income s
c bo m hn.
Ngc li, chi ph c hi ca 1 em n t mt nc km pht trin hn c th ch chng
$50k/2 years. Nu em ny nhn c 2 offers: 1 ca HBS, 1 ca trng no-name. Again,
chng l em ny li i hc ci trng no-name trong khi ng no th cng mt $50k c
hi ph?
Vy nn dng cch phn tch ny so snh trng ny vi trng kia l non-sense. (Ch
l bi bo ny khng tnh chuyn fellowship nn ti cha a chuyn fellowship vo y.)
By gi gi s ci em HBS trn kia nhn c 2 offer: 1 ca HBS without a penny of
fellowship, 1 ca 1 trng top-50 vi full package. Vy th nu em ny quyt nh i top-50
for a free ride, em vn mt $250k c hi ph cho 2 nm v save c khong $120k (tuition
+ stipend). Nu so $250k vi $120k th em ny vn hi b in nu quyt nh th.
i vi em c c hi ph l $50k, nu chn i top-50 hc min ph th nghe cn c c,
v trn thc t chc cng hay xy ra chuyn ny. V vy nn l l do ti sao c hi ph
ca bn hc trng top 10 lun cao cht ngt, n gin l i vi bn ny, khng i hc th
thi, h i l phi i top-10 ch ai li in m i hc mid-tier school.
i vi con nh thng dn Vit Nam th chi ph c hi hu nh khng ng k (ni theo kiu
dn kim ton l immaterial, suggest to ignore

) M gi s em VN ny nhn c 2

offers: 1 ca HBS v 1 ca trng no-name, c 2 u khng c fellowship. Vy th return on

investment trong trng hp i HBS hay i trng no-name cng c chnh lch nhau l my
u? (Chi ph chnh lch khng nhiu, v gi s post-MBA income cng same same.) Vy th
em ny in mi khng chn i HBS.
Tm li nu dng ci bng phn tch ROI theo kiu ca bi bo ny chn trng th tht l
non-sense.