Bashing The Shield of Ahl As-Sunnah Against The Blunt Sword of The Murji Ah

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Bashing the Shield of Ahl as-Sunnah

Against the Blunt Sword of the Murjiah
protecting the ranks of the salafees in the west against the spubs mayhem
and unveiling the halabee-spubs connection with al-imaan
Writtenandcompiledby:AbuRumayssaeRidouanalHollandi&AbuHudayfaMusaalIndonesi
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Introduction

AllpraiseisduetoAllhandmayhispeaceandblessingbeuponhisProphet,hisfamilyandthosewhofollowthemuntilthe
DayofJudgment.
ThehighpositionofalmnanditsexaltedstatusisnotunknowntotheMuslims.Itisthegreatestandmostnoblepurpose,and
withittheservantattainshappinessinboththeworldlylifeandintheHereafter.OneattainswithiteternallifeintheGardens
ofBlissandthecontentmentofAllhazza wa jall -andoneissavedbyitfromtheblazingfiresofHellandthewrathofal
Jabbr.
Andthefruitsofalmnanditsbenefitsareinnumerable.AndthusfromthegreatestfavoursofAllhazza wa jall -forHis

slave is that He leads him to the Path of almn, and makes him steadfast upon it until he meets Allh while the Creator is
pleasedwithhim,thentheservanthasachievedeternalblissandthegreatestsuccess.
Andalmnbywhichthissuccessisachievedandthishappinessisbroughtaboutisnothaw(desire)whichisfollowed,nor
opinionsthatareinnovated.ButitisonlyabidingbythereligionofAllhwhichHehasimposedonHisservants,andwhere
He is content with as the religion for them. And for them He has send down a clear revelation and a pure guidance, and a
straightpath.Itsmilestoneshavebecomeclear,andsoitsetiquettesanditsbeaconsarefirmlyestablished,anditsevidenceand
itsclarificationhavebecomeclearintheBookofAllhandtheSunnahofHisMessenger.
AndthosewhodonotimplementtheBookandtheSunnahwillstrayfromtheStraightPathofAllh,andwhoeverwantsto
reachalaqq(thetruth)andalHud(theguidance)withoutfollowingitsways,hewillstrayfromthepureguidance.
AllhuTaaalasays:

AndthusWehavesenttoyou(OMuhammad)Ruhan(anInspiration,andaMercy)ofOurCommand.Youknewnotwhat
istheBook,norwhatisFaith?ButWehavemadeit(thisQuran)alightwherewithWeguidewhosoeverofOurslavesWewill.
andverily,you(OMuhammad)areindeedguiding(mankind)totheStraightPath
[AshShoorah52]
SoAllhdoesnotacceptareligionthatisfollowedfromthefirstgenerationsandthelast,exceptwhatisinconformitytoHis
religion that He has prescribed trough the tongues of His Messengers . And this religion is where the best
generationswhereupon,andtheyaretheaaabah,andthosewhofollowedtheminthebestmanner.Thefirstonespassediton
to the last, and the last ones followed herein the predecessor and with this all of them where following their Prophet
Muammed ,anduponhiswaytheythreaded,andbyhistracestheywereguidedandwhohashadamorepraiseworthy
endthantheirs?
ThepeopleofinsightandknowledgeofthereligionofAllhfromthefirsttothelast,haveagreeduponthefactthatalmn,
whichAllhhascommandedinHisBook,andwhereHisMessengercalledto,andwheretheaaabahwereuponandthose
whofollowedtheminthebestofways,thatitentails:Qawl(speech),andamal(actions),andItiqaad(belief),itincreaseswith
obedienceanditdecreaseswithdisobedience.1
SoalmnconsistsofthreeArkn(pillars)accordingtotheIjm(consensus)ofAhlasSunnahwalJamah,Ahlaladthwal
Athar:
Speech;
Actions;
Belief
Andifoneofthesethreepillarsismissing,thenalmnisnotcorrect,andthereforeanyonewhoclaimsthatapersonhasmn
whileoneofthesepillarsismissing,thenthisclaimisfalse,andinclearcontradictiontotheBookofAllh,theSunnahofthe
Messenger of Allh and the Manhaj of the Salaf usli. And the one who makes this claim falls into the Bidah of the
Murjiah,aswillbeclarifiedinthisarticlebaseduponthestatementsofthescholarsbiidhnillh.
Sotheqidah(principle)withAhlasSunnahis:
ThereisnomnexceptwithAmal(actions)andthereisnoAmalexceptwithmn
AndAhlasSunnahfromtheSalafandtheKhalafareagreeduponthisprinciple,soitsnotopenfordisputeordiscussion,and
certainlynotforthebickeringofthedeluded.Socontradictiontowardsthisprincipleisclearerror,andutterfalsehood,anda
greatinnovationintheDeen,anddeparturefromtheJamah,andcontraveningtotheconsensusoftheImmsoftheReligion.
Soafterthisgroundprinciplenoattentionispaidtothefraudulentclaimofanyone,claimingthattheSalafhadadifferenceof
opiniononthissubject.ThosewhoclaimthiseitherdontunderstandthewordsoftheSalafonthissubjectandthetruthabout
the creed of Ahl asSunnah is not clear to them, or they are people confused by the bidah of alIrj and are confusing and
misleadingthelaymanofthemuslimeen,andattributingtheirclaimstoAhlasSunnahwhilethelatterisfreefromthem.
TakenfromZiydatoelImniwaNoqsnoehoewaHoekmoelIstithnìefiehofashShaykhAbdarRazzaaqalAbbaad,withsmallmodifications.
And in these recent times a group of wiseacres has appeared, a gang of khunfushriyyn2 , callers to alIrj, they are writing
extensivelyaboutitformanyyears,spreadingtheirevilintheEastandtheWest,claimingthatitistheMadhhaboftheSalafin
mn, they do this with attarf (distorting), attazyf (forgery), and manipulating the words of the scholars, and lying about
them, and replacing their speech which is mukam (unambiguously) with what is mutashbih (ambiguously), and depending
uponphilosophicalassumptions,andinnovated arguments.InsteadofdependingontheKitbandtheSunnah,andthewell
knownbooksofthecreedoftheSalaf,whichAhlasSunnahinheritedfromtheirpredecessorswhomwhereuponclearguidance.
Andthisgangofkhunfushriyyn,beyondthefactthattheyhavegoneastray,theyresortedtoaccusingeveryonewhodisagrees
withtheirIrjtobefromthekhawrijandthetakfiriyyoon.AnditsasifIbnTaymiyyahwaslivinginthesetimeswhenhewrote
hiswords:
AndhereinhavefallenmanygroupsofthelatecomersofthosewhomascribethemselvestotheSunnah,andalFiqh,andalHadeeth,the
followers of the four Imms, the fanatics of the Jahmiyyah and the Mutazilah, even the Murjiah also. But because of their absence of
understanding the realities from which the innovations originated from they are combining between two opposites, but from the
RahmahofAllhforHisservants(of)themuslimeen,isthattheImms,thosewhompossesarighteoustonguelikethefourImmsand
othersthanthem..theyrejectedfromAhlalKalmandtheJahmiyyahtheirspeechabouttheQuraan,andalmn,andtheSifaatofar
Rabb,andtheywereinagreementinwhattheSalafwereupon.3
Andthisgroupofwiseacresandkhunfushriyyn,thecallerstoalIrjinthesetimes,havetheiroffshootsandtheirbrethrenin
the West. Parroting their every word and aping their every move, indulging themselves into philosophical discourses and
labellingAhlasSunnahwithallkindsofnicknames,leavingbehindatrailofterrorintheWest.
Thesemuqallidah(blindfollowers)andwiseacresareknownintheWestbythenameSPUBS,ascribingthemselvesfalselyto
asSalafiyyah,whereasasSalafiyyahisfreefromthemlikethewolfisfreefromthebloodofYusufalayhissallaam.
SorecentlyithasreachedusthattheseSpubsfellowshavecometoaidtheirfellowpartymembersintheNetherlands,tryingto
rescuethemfromtheirintellectualbankruptcytheyhavebeenlingeringinthepastfewyears.Butthisfutileinterventionwillbe
ofnoavailtothem,becausefalsehoodcanbeofnoavailagainstthetruth.
So these Spubs fellows have written an article named: An Exposition of the Attempts of the Qubiyyah, Takfiriyah,
adddiyyah[andajwirah]toAscribeIrjtoShaykhRabi,theSalafScholarsofthePastandPresentandtheDutof
AhlalSunnahinVariousLands.
Beforegoingintothemattersubstantively,wewillfirstlypresentaconcisehistoricalbackground,becauseitsimportantforthe
readertogetacquaintedwiththedarkpastofspubsandthesubjectofalmn.
AshShaykhBakrAbuZaydmentionsthattherewasamanthatgavefataawaoneverysubjectwithoutanyhesitation,andhiscontemporariesnoticedthis
about him. So they agreed to put him to the test, by asking him about a word that has absolutely no basis in the Arab language and this word was
khunfushaar.Sowhenhewasaskedaboutit,heansweredwithoutanyshamethatitwasaplantfromYemenwithagoodscent,etc.[atTaaalump.17]
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AlImaan314315
A Concise Preface of the Historical Background of the Spubs

Legacy and al-mn: Unveiling the Halab-Spubs Connection
The main problem Abu Ind, Abu Khadeejah and others with them have is their extreme way of describing certain things,
eventsandoccurrences.InthepasttheyusedthismannerwhiledefendingAliassanalalabandhisfalseviewsregarding
almn and alKufr. They went into great detail to defend Ali assan and to label every person who opposed Ali assans
viewsasTakfiriyyoon,Qutbiyyah,adddiyyahetc.
Whereas many of the great Scholars like alGhudayyn, alFawzn, arRji, the Mufti, Bakr Abu Zayd, the Permanent
Committeeandothers,heavilyrefutedalalabandthelikes!SowherewastheirfavouritesloganSticktothescholarsduring
thosetimes?
Butthissloganoftheirsisonlyadeception,foolingthepeoplewithit,andmakethembelievethattheyareuponthewayofthe
scholars,whileinrealitystickingtothescholarsinthespubsdictionarymeans:selectivelyblindfollowingaspecificgroupof
mashaykh.
So their methodology was the same then as it is now: They returned to, and build upon the views of alalab and they
themselvesansweredquestionsregardingtheseissues,asifAmjadandAbuKhadeejahweresomekindofMufteesintheWest!
This caused these wiseacres to write and publish the notorious alab papers.4 Wherein they refuted the Permanent
CommitteeindefenceofalAllmahalalabandhisIrj?!Notonlyalalabwastheirspiritualteacherintheissuesofal
mnbutalsoAbulasanalMaribiwasoneoftheirteachers.WhereasAbulasanalMaribiwasbeingrefutedbyalImm
Muqbilinthosetimesontheissuesofalmn.Hewarnedagainsthisaudiotapesonalmn5,andhewroteanintroductionfora
rislahthatwaswrittentorefutethemisconceptionsandthefalsedawahoftheNeoMurjiahincludingAbulasan!!6
These facts are well known to those who have been on asSalafiyyah a bit longer than these youngsters nowadays who are
stickingtothescholars(read:stickingtothespubswiseacres).Butspubsandtheirlikeshaveremovedmanyarticlesfromtheir
website, without any clarification or tawbah, because in the end they found out that some of their epic fallacies couldnt be
defended.
In a nutshell: Spubs were heavily influenced by Ali assan alalab and Abu lasan alMaribi7 regarding mn and Kufr.
TheywerealsoheavilyinfluencedbyFaalialarbiregardingalJarwaatTadl,andmanypeoplehaveobservedthisinthe
4
Whichcanbereadhere:
www.selefienederland.nl/site/phocadownload/links2documents/the%20halabi%20papers%201.pdf
www.selefienederland.nl/site/phocadownload/links2documents/The%20Halabi%20Papers%202.pdf
www.selefienederland.nl/site/phocadownload/links2documents/The%20halabi%20papers%203.pdf
Spubsjustrecentlydisabledtheoldlinksfromtheirdatabase!!Whilethepaperswerealreadyremovedfromtheirwebsitealongtimeago!!Isthisspreading
thetruthandreturningtotheScholars?
5
http://www.selefienederland.nl/site/audio/ashritahfilimaanabulhasanImammuqbil.rm
6
Furtherintothisarticlewewillmentionthisbookwithsomeextrainformationaboutit.
7
ThesewhereonofthosedocumentstheyusedtospreadonalImaan:
www.selefienederland.nl/site/phocadownload/links2documents/The%20criterion%20in%20Explaining%20the%20Issues%20of%20Imaan%201.pdf
past,andthiscanstillbenoticedtodaywhenonereadstheirextremearticlesfilledwithunjusttabd,scholdingandabusive
speech.
Partoftheirmethodology,afteritbecamecleartothemtheyranintoamaresnest,isjustsimplyremovingtheirarticles,trying
tocoveruptheirsupportforfalsehoodanditspeople,withouteveropenlyretractingtheirfallacieswithacleartawbah,leaving
thepeoplewhofollowedthemintheirerrorsinthedark.
Sohowmuchdoestodayseemlikeyesterday.Againmakingmanybaselessaccusations,defyingthescholarsofAhlasSunnah,
opposingthecreedoftheSalaf,anddivertingthereadersattentionfromthemaintopicbyresortingtophilosophicaldiscourse.
Whiletherealquestionshouldbe;WhyisashShaykhRabbeingcriticisedbyscholarsthesedays,andwhyBouchta8inthe
Netherlands?
Wesay:BecausetheyhavefallenintotheexactsamemistakesthatAlialalabandothers havefalleninto.Thereforewhat
wasrefutedfromalalabshouldalsoberefutedfromashShaykhRabandBouchta.BecausethescalesofAhlasSunnahare
but one! And the methodology of Ahl asSunnah dictates that from every person his speech can be accepted or rejected! But
certain Mashaykh are above every criticism in Spubss methodology, hereby following the ways of the Soofees with their
murshids.
So spubs for years where on the bandwagon of alalab and his congeners, calling him a Allmah, and playing the devils
advocatewiththealabPapers,defendinghisclearstatementsofalIrj,andgoingagainsttheadvisesofthemajorscholars,
andjudgingtheverdictsofthemajorscholarstobeaerroneousIjtihaad!!Andlabellingtheoneswhoheldthecorrectcreedof
AhlasSunnahtobeKhawaraadij:
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TheleaderofalHizbalJadeedintheNetherlands,whohasrecentlybeenrefutedforhisstatementsofclearIrjaa.IntheirlatestarticleSpubshavecometo
aidtheirfellowpartymembersintheNetherlands,blindlydefendinghimwithoutevenquotinghisspeechonthesubject,whichshowstheirizbiyyahThis
personAbuAbdillaahBouchtahasbeencriticizedbyashShaykhAbdalHamidalHajooreeafewyearsago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QImsrhUbtcs
The Halab papers
The Halab papers
So while the major scholars were heavily refuting alalab and others like azZahrni, Spubs and Abu Ind were opposing
themanddegradingtheirIjtihdt!
So this statement of Amjad in his new article which we will refer to from now on as The alab Papers 2.0 throughout our
article:
Asforthejrites,afterthetabdofYayalajrbynumerousScholars,someofthemarenowusingthetribulationbeingstirredby
thiswaveofaddds(suchasAbdalamdalJuhanandAbdullhbinawwnalGhmidandothers)againstShaykhRabasameans
ofseekingrevengeforthesakeoftheiradddleaderandmentor,Yayalajr.
Thisstatementisaclearandblatantlie.Wehavebeenspreadingtherefutationsonalalabyearsbeforethefitnahregarding
ashShaykhYay9.AndsodidmanyothersfromthepeopletheyarenowcallingjritesandadddsandKhawrij.
Butallthisnamecallingandadhominemattacksisnothingbutaredherringtheykeepusingtimeaftertime.MaybeAmjad
willcallusFawznsinthefuture,ifoneofhismashaykhwillgivehimthegreenlighttodothis?Allthisareonlythesame
propagandatacticsusedbytheAmericanZionistmediacallingeveryMuslimaterrorist,fearpoliticstodeludethemassesand
toreachtheirgoals.
Sotheirtaassub(fanaticism)towardstheizbofalAdani,andtheirblindfollowingofthelikesofArafatalMuammadihas
deluded their minds, connecting every event to alajur. So next time the Footsie crashes maybe they start blaming the
jritesforit?!
As for the people of the Sunnah and sound intellect, the real thing that changed was the fact that ashShaykh Rab started
openlyattackingtheonesthathavebeenspreadinganddefendingbeinginfullagreementwiththerefutationsoftheMajor
ScholarsforthelastdecadethecorrectcreedofAhlasSunnahofalmn,
AshShaykhRabhasbeenopposingthisviewopenlyforthepastfewyearsandhaschangedonmanydifferentaspects.He
nowopenlydeniesandattacksthewellknownatharofIbnShaqqregardingtheIjmoftheabahonthekufroftheonewho
abandonstheprayer,andtheIjmrelatedbyalImmashShfionthekufroftheonewhoabandonsalltheactionswiththe
limbsandthatalmncannotbecorrectwithoutit9,andmanyotherknowledgebasedissuesrelatedtomnandKufronwhich
alalabandotherswereheavilyrefutedin the past.In thisarticlewewillgivesomespecificexamplesofashShaykhRab
usingtheatharofIbnShaqqinseveralofhisbooksinthepast!
SoinsteadoffalselyaccusingashShaykhalajurforendingupwithalalab,inrealityitstheSpubsSquadwhohavenot
onlyendedupwithalalabbutstayedathissidethroughouttheyears,beinghisgreatestspokespersonintheWest.Tirelessly
claiming to be sticking to the scholars, whereas every wellinformed salafee knows whom they intend with the scholars. So
when the majorscholarsrefuted alalabandhismisguidancein thesubjectofalmn,theydefendedhimbyphilosophical
articlesandtheydidnotleavehim,spubsleftalalabonlymorethen10yearslater,duetohisfalseqawidregardingalJar
waatTadlbutdefendedhimregardingmnandKufrandbythisopposedmanymajorscholars!
So this kind of extremism, like the namecalling, was also displayed by Amjad in 2000 when he was blindly defending and
followingalalab.
SothisexcludeshimfrombeingareferencepointinsuchbigissueslikemnandKufr.Afewyearsafterthepublicationofthe
alab Papers they tried to cover up the alabSpubs connection by removing the articles from their website. Now in 2014
Amjad strikes again, unsheathing his NeoMurjiah sword, this time in so called defence of ashShaykh Rab and not al
alab. Again trying to dictate the salafees what to believe in these specific issues of almn, and hiding behind ashShaykh
RabandattackingAhlasSunnahagain,labellingthemasadddiyyahandKhrijiyyah.
AshShaykh Rab never openly refuted the mistakes of alalab and others regarding mn and Kufr, he even defended al
alab,likewisealJbirUbayd.10
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WhereasashShaykhRabinpastusedtoconductproofwiththeatharofIbnShaqiq,declareditauthen c,alsotherelatedIjmofalImmashShfi.This
canbeseeninhisolderworkshewrotebeforethefitnah.Laterinthearticlewewillshowthis,inshAllh.
10
Pleaselistenherefromminute18:55:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EdTSHRgLCk
UbayddescribestherefutationsofalHalabeeagainsttheLajnahasawellmannered,strongrefutation.AndhealsodefendedalHalabeenumeroustimes
againstthecriticismoftheLaijnahandthebookRafalLaaimwhichrefutesalHalabee:
Thenintheyear2013ashShaykhRaballofasuddenmentionsthecriticismofthePermanentCommitteewhichwasspread
by Ahl asSunnah years ago!11 What will Abu Khadeeja and Abu Ind do? Write an explanation in which they explain ash
ShaykhRabhiswords?RefutehimasbeingQutb,Takfr,and addd?Ormaketawbahandfollowtheproof?Whowilltell?
EverythingcanhappenintheSpubssoap!
Sodowereturntothemostknowledgeablepeopleregardingtheseissues,thecrystalclearknowledgebasedrefutationsofthe
majorscholars,ortotheoneswhoopposedthemajorscholarsandwerentclear,andchangedtheirviewsyearslaterwithout
anydetailedexplanationfortheirchangeofopinion!?
InthispoorarticleofAmjadweseethesamethingalloveragain:AmjadrefersbacktoashShaykhRabblindfollowingthe
Shaykhs comprehension of this knowledge based issue, and of course mixed with his own explanation and shubuht. And
everyonewhoopposesthisisattackedwithadhominemarguments,namecalling,andgetslinkedtoaladddiyyah.
WiththehelpofAllhwewillproofallthisbyquotingAmjad.Thereaderwilltherebybethejudge.
MayAllhguideusandalltheMuslims,andacceptthissmalltreatisefromus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G47XeSF_PK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rNeVzNkD9A
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Whichcanbereadhere:http://www.rabee.net/ar/articles.php?cat=8&id=237
The Leopard Does Not Change His Spots

Lifting the veil some more on the Halab-Spubs connection
One who reads the article written by Abu Iy Amjad Rafq a.k.a Abu Ind, may Allh guide him, will see that he has not
learnedanythingfromthemajormistakesspubsmadeinthepastbywritingandpublishingthealabpapersandotherarticles
of over 70 pages in which they, and not the scholars, were teaching the readers about mn and Kufr. Its a compilation of
distortedkalm(speech)ofthescholars,theuseofthemutashbihtextsandmixingitwiththemukam,andalotofAristotelian
discourse.HistreatiseaboutalmnandalKufrisinnowayinconformitywiththetreatisesofthemajorscholars,whoexplain
almn and alKufr in a way even the layman can understand its features. Allh did not send the Messengers with these
philosophicalwaysofconveyingHisclearmessagetohumanity,nordidtheSalafexplainalmninthisfashion,theydidnot
indulgeinphilosophicalprattle,nordidtheyuseallkindsofnewlyinnovatedtermswithoutadirenecessitytoexplainalmn
tothepeople.SoitsincumbentuponAbuIntoreferbacktothescholars,andtosticktotheirclearspeechaboutthissubject
andnottoindulgehimselfintoallkindsofphilosophicaldiscourses,andtocrafthisowncutandpasteAristoteliantreatiseon
almn.
But unfortunately we see this old trait of them being used again but only put a new jacket. So just like the leopard does not
changeitsspots,thepathologicalliarAmjaddoesnotchangehisliesanddistortions,soAbuInd:
StartsaccusingusofbeingHajwirah/HadddiyyahfromtheNetherlands;whereasheneverevenoncequotesoneproofforhis
tabdi;thesearethetracesofinfluenceFlialHarbistillhasonthesespubsshenanigansuntilthisday.Becausethrowinghim
awaydoesntnecessarilyimplythattheylefthisextremism!
HenowherepoststheactualquestionhereceivedregardingourcriticismaimedatBouchtainourarticles,mayAllhguidehim;
ifhehadreadbotharticleshewouldneverevenhadmentionedsomethingsinhispretentionofbeingknowledgeableandopposing
theUlamaaagaininmanyissues,aswillfollow;
HethenstartsnamingnumerousnameslikeashShaykhYahy,ashShaykhalGhmid, ashShaykhalJuhan,ashShaykhal
JarbooandtriestoestablishafictivelinkwithQutbiyynwhoattackedImmalAlbninthepast;thishasnothingtodowith
theknowledgebasesissueathandandisjusttodiscreditus,andtoputthewooloverthereaderseyes,nothingmoreandnothing
less;
Answers this knowledge based issue totally by himself! By compilating a philosophical treatise like the true Aristotelian he is.
AbandoningtheirfavoritesloganSticktothescholars,sohestartsshoppinginthemanydifferentIslamicresourcesmakingita
lengthyarticleinwhichhemixestheprimaryissue:Leavingofallactionsofthelimbsandrelatedissueswhichthescholars
actuallycriticized,withmanysecondaryissueswhichhavenothingtodowiththetopicathand.Soafterhisshoppingadventure
hestartsplayingscramblewiththewordsofthescholarslikeIbnTaymiyyah,IbnRajab,IbnBzandmanyothers,placingtheir
words out of context, explaining them in contradiction to what can be understood from their mukam speech. So instead of
returningtotheirclearcutwordsonthissubject,hepicksandchoosestheirkalmlikeatruescramblechampion.
Sowesay:YaaAbaaIndwecriticizedBouchtabasedupontheAqdahofmanydifferentscholarswhoholdthat:
Leavingofallactionswiththelimbswhilebeingabletoactismajorkufr;
ThereisanIjmregardingthisissue;
TheKhilfbeingpromotedbyalalabandnowunfortunatelybyashShaykhRabisnonexistent;
ThatnotmakingtakfronthissubjectisaformofIrj;
Thatrefutingthiserrorisextremelyimportant;
Thisiswhatweclearlydemonstratedintwoarticlesbyquotingmanymajorscholars.12SoBouchtahasthesameproblemyou
haveAmjad:
He was heavily influenced by alalab regarding mn and Kufr, and relied upon alalabs comprehension regarding the
subject.
AndlikeyouattheSpubsSquad,hekeptdefendingalalabagainstallthedifferentscholarswhocriticizedhimmorethan15
yearsago.Statingthattheaqqwaswithalalab.
While the Permanent Committee and many other scholars censured the books of alalab they kept selling alalabs books
regarding thissubject at the bookshop in the masjid where Bouchta always gave his lessons. They also soldhis audio cassettes
whereinalalabspreadshiswrongvisionregardingalmnandKufr.
They even sold books which were clearly not authentic, like the socalled Iraaqie questions who were falsely linked to ash
Shaykh alFawzn13 and which alalab published in order to spread hismethodology regarding almn and alKufr, and al
Fawznstronglydeniedanylinktothisbookandheavilydenieditscontent!OnewhocomparesalFawznsfatwaandbooksto
whatalalabquotedfalselyfromalFawznwillseeabigdifference;14
Wedont holdeverythingsummedupaboveagainst Bouchta,becausemanypeopleintheWestweremisguidedinthinking

that alalabs view was the view of alImm alAlbn. We merely want to demonstrate the connection many had with al
alabwhenitcomestoalmn,andthattheydidnotsticktothescholarswhorefutedalalab,andtoshowthemistakesand
thefallaciesintheunderstandingofalalabbycomparingitwiththestraightforwardandclearkalmofthescholarsofAhlas
Sunnah from the Salaf and the Khalaf. Hoping that there will be some who are sincere with their speech about sticking to the
12
www.selefienederland.nl/site/index.php/artikelen/nasaaihadviezen?download=201:bouchtaaboeabdillaahindeweegschaalvanahlassoennah1e
halaqahbouchtaenalmn
www.selefienederland.nl/site/index.php/artikelen/category/14sektengroeperingenorganisatiespersonengedachtengoeden?download=202%3Abouchta
aboeabdillaahindeweegschaalvanahlassoennah2ehalaqahbouchtaenalmn
13
www.saaid.net/Doat/rajhi/4.htm
http://www.selefienederland.nl/site/audio/asilahiraqiyyah.ra
14
AbuIyaad,whoelse,alsospreadanArabictranslationofpartofthisbookonSalafitalk:
www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=21&Topic=4435&sortby=desc
ThisagainshowstheirconnectionwithalHalabeeregardingtheseissues!Ifonereadsthequestionandtheanswerandheisfamiliarwiththedawahofal
FawzaanwillbecertainthatashShaykhalFawzaanopposesthisineverymanner.AlsosomeoftheImaamsmentionedinthequestionareusedbyAmjad,but
wewillbringalltheirstatements!Amjad:Willorwillyounotretractthismistakeopenly?
scholarsandbeinguponasSalafiyyah!?UnfortunatelyalizbiyyahisatenaciousdiseasethatcanonlybecuredbyalIkhlsand
alIttibaaandleavingofatTaqldalAmandatTaaubadhDhamiem.
Sowhenthemajorscholarsbegantospeakoutagainstalalab,clarifyinghisfallaciesandexplainingthecorrectcreedofAhl
asSunnah in this important matter, Spubs and Bouchta did not stick to the scholars and did not leave alalaband his false
viewpoints,rathertheywentagainstthemajorscholarsanddefendedalalabandhisIrj,callingthepeopletoit.Itwasonly
manyyearslaterthatSpubsandBouchtaleftalalabbecausesomeScholarsrefutedalalabforhisconnectionswithpeople
ofinnovationandhiserroneousqawidbywhichheopposedtheSalafimethodology.NotbecauseofmnandKufr.Thisisa
veryimportantmatterthereaderhastobeawareofinordertoplacethissubjectofmnandKufrintheproperperspective.
Havingsaidthis:Manyscholarsalreadywarnedagainstthenotionthattheonewholeavesofallactionswiththelimbs,whilebeing
abletoact,isstillaMuslimandthatthisissuecanbeviewedasanissueinwhichthereisakhilefwithinAhlasSunnah.
This fact was illustrated by the authoring of books and comprehensive studies on this subject, some important examples of
themare:
AqwlDhawielArfnfannaAmlalJawriiDgilatunfMusammaalmn15
(StatementsoftheKnowlegdeablesthattheactionsoftheLimbsareInsidetheDefinitionofalmn)
AuthoredbyashShaykhIsmasSinnie:
ThisexcellentbookwasreadbyalAllmahSlialFawzn9andhealsowroteanintroductiontoit,andcommentedon
it.ThisbookrefutesthenotionthatthisissueisoneoftheissuesinwhichthereisadifferenceofopinionwithinAhlasSunnah,
andalsorefutestheclaimsthatActionsareashart(condition)foritscompletenessanddemonstratesthatinsteadtheyarea
Juz(part)oftherealityofalmn.
Inthisbooktherearemanyimportantissuesraised:
There is an Ijm of the abah that the one who leaves of the Salh is a kfir. The author also quotes the athar of the Tbi
AbdullhibnShaqqandwordsfromotherabah.
TheauthoralsoshowsthatImmashShfirelatesanIjmthattheonewholeavesofactionswiththelimbsisakfir.
That Ibn Bz held the opinion that Except that Jins alamal is necessary for the correctness of almn16 and that he
explainedthatthiswastheopinionheldbyalloftheSalaf.
15
http://antiirja.net/play.php?catsmktba=24
TheRiyaadnewspapereditionnr.12506
16
ThatsomepeoplecomewithanewissueandmixbetweenthemadhhabofAhlasSunnahandtheMurjiahalFuqahbecause
theysaythatthereisapossibilityofapersonhavingmninhisheartwithoutactionsofthelimbs.
He quotes the Ijm on the issue that almn is not correct without actions of the limbs. And clearly shows this by making a
distinctionbetweenQawl(speech)andamal(actions).
HequotesmanyUlamaawhorefutetheMurjiahwhosaythatjustspeechwithoutactionsisenough.
Thatsomeextremistconcerningthephrase:almnisQawl(speech)andAmal(actions)divideAmal(actions)intoactions
oftheheart,thetongue,andthelimbs!Tryingtoproofbythisdistinctionthattheonewholeavesalltheactionsofthelimbswhile
stillhavingtheactionsofthetongueandtheheartcanstillbeaMuslim.
TheauthorquotesagreatdealfromtheanswersofalImmIbnBzregardingtrikalamlandquotesmorethan10sources!
TheauthorquotesagreatdealoftheanswersofalImmIbnUthaymnregardingtrikalaml.
Quotesmanyspeechofthescholarsclarifyingthefalseunderstandingofthosewhousethephraselamyamalkhayranqat(He
didnotperformanygoodatall),whichisusedbysometoproofthattheonewholeavesofallactionsisstillaMuslim!
Thisbookhasbeenwidelyspread,byusalso,yearsbeforethefitnahconcerningashShaykhalajurandthefalsecampaign
againsthimmayAllhprotecthimfromanyharm.AndtheonewhocloselycomparesAmjadsarticlewiththespeechofthe
scholarswillseethatheopposesmanyofthepointsmentionedinthisbookthatwaspraisedbyalAllmatulFawzn!Insh
Allh.
AlmnindaasSalafwaAlqatahubilAmalwaKashfuShubuhtalMuirn17
(AlmnwiththeSalafanditsConnectiontotheActionsandUnveilingtheMisconceptionsoftheContemporaries)
AuthoredbyashShaykhMoammedbinMamoudaalKhuayr
Thisexcellentbook18hasanintroductionbyalAllmahAbdullhalAqielQ(from1428hidjri,over7yearsago!!).
Thebookconsistsof2volumesover800pages.Someofthecontentsare(relatedtothistopicwearediscussing):
ShowingthatthephraseoftheSalaf:Whosoeversays:almnisQawl(speech)andAmal(action),itincreasesanddecreases
isfreeofalIrj,isnottakenabsolutely.
17
Thisbookcanbedownloadedinpdfhere:
Volume1:http://www.mediafire.com/file/oyyjw2ya2eg/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86
Volume2:http://www.mediafire.com/file/mhim2dlyjj2/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86
18
I(Ridouan)boughtthisbookbeforethefitnahregardingasShaykhYahyaaopenlystartedintheNetherlands,inalMedinaalMunawaraa,mayAllaahgiveus
benefit,whenIwentonalUmrah3or4yearsago.
SayingsoftheMurjiahofthisage,ShaykhaalKhuayrmentions:
14)Leavingoffamladhdhhirah(outwardactions)intotalityisntkufrthatexpelsfromthereligion.
15)TheactionswiththelimbsareshartkamlofalmnandnotaRukn(pillar),Juz`(part)orShartSihhahofalmn.
16)TheactionsofthelimbsareaRuknofalmn,buttheonewholeavesthiscompletely,withoutanexcuse,isaMuslimunder
theWill(ofAllh).
Leavingoffallamladhdhhirah(theoutwardactions)isasortofKufralIrd;
IjmAhlasSunnahthatactionsareaJuzàndthatmnisnotcorrectacceptwithit(actions).
IjmasabahoftheKufroftheonewholeavesofftheprayer.
QuotationsfromthePeopleofKnowledgeinclarifyingthepositionoftheactionsofthelimbstoalmnandtherulingofleaving
offalltheseactions.
UnveilingtheShubuhaatoftheMurjiàhofthiseralike;
Theirfalseunderstandingofthehadthlamyamalkhayranqat(Hedidnotperformanygoodatall),andthehadeeth
ofalBitqah(thesheet).
Actions(amal)intheterminologyoftheSalafalsomeantqawl(speech)ofthetongue.
Thatthisissuereturnsbacktothedifferenceofopinionregardingtheabandonmentoftheprayer.19
Explainingwhatisunclearofthewordsofsomeofthescholarsandwhichsomepeoplemisuse.20
IjtimalAimmahalNoratiMadhhabAhlisSunnah21
(TheGatheringoftheScholarsinAidingtheMadhhabofAhlasSunnah)
AuthoredbySaoodibnliasSadalMlik.
ThisbookhasanintroductionfrombothalImmMoqbilibnHdiQandashShaykhWasiullhalAbbsalHindi.
Both Shaykhs stress the fact that ashShaykh alMlikie refuted some mistakes. So which mistakes are being refuted in the
book?
19
WhichalalabandAmjadbothclaim
WhichisAmjadsmainsourceforunderstanding!
http://www.selefienederland.nl/site/phocadownload/links2documents/idjtimaa3ahlissoenah.pdf
20
21
IstheonewhosincerelytestifiestheshahadatayninhisheartsavedfrometernallystayingintheHellfireifhedoesntbringany
oftheactionsofthelimbs,andperformsallprohibitedthings,exceptshirk?
Andmanyofthepointsthathavealreadybeenmentionedinthetwoearlierbooks
This book was written before alImm Muqbil died, 14 years ago. So even back then there were refutations regarding these
issues.OrwillAmjadandotherssaythatMuqbilandWasiullhandtheotherscholarswereadddiyyahandinfluencedby
Safaralawli?
DarulFitnahanAhlisSunnah
(FendingofalFitnahfromAhlasSunnah)
AuthoredbyalAllmahBakrAbZaydQ22
ThisbookhasanintroductionofalImmIbnBz,togetherwiththeMuftiAalashShaykhandashShaykhalFawzn.
AshShaykhBakrwritesonpage21:
Thethirdchapter:Inexplainingaqqat(therealityof)almn.
HethenquotesIbnTaymiyyahfromalFatw7/209:
AshShfiraimahullh said:TherewasanIjmfromtheabahandtheTbinafterthem,andwhomwemet,theysay:almn
isQawl(speech),Amal(action)andNiyyah(intention),andnotonepartfromthethreeistaken,acceptwiththeother(two).
Onpage22ashShaykhBakrsays:
.Bewarned,againbewarned,oMuslim!Thatyouwillbemisledbywhichsomepeoplesaywithplayingdownfromoneofthese
five Fundamentals from the aqqah of almn, not in the least of what they took from the Jahmiyyah and the Ghult al
Murjiahthatalamal(actions)isKaml(completeness)intherealityofalmn,andnotaRukn(pilar)init.Andthatis
turningawayfromthemukam(clear)fromtheBookofAllh,theExhalted,inabout60places
22
http://www.waqfeya.com/book.php?bid=1622
AtTawassuuwalIqtidfannaalKufrayaknbilQawliawilFiliawilItiqd
(TheModerateandthePrudentPositionregardingthatalKufriswithSpeechorActionorBelief)
AuthoredbyAlawasSaqf
ThisbookhasanintroductionbyalImmIbnBz.23
Theauthorsaysonpage19afterexplainingthedifferenceofopinionregardingleavingtheprayer:
Buthereisanimportantissue:AnditisthatAsbaladthwhodonotmaketakfrupontheonewholeavestheprayer,theydont
intendthattheprayerisamal(i.e.justanactionfromthecategoryofactions)andthatalamal(i.e.theactionsasawholecategory)the
onewholeavesthemdoesntbecomeakafir,[],thisisIrjfilth,they(i.e.Asbaladth)arefarfromthis.
Andonpage71whereSaqfquotesIbnajar:Whenhespeaksabouttheactions(TheSalaftookitasashshartforitskamlihi
(completeness)i.e.foralmn.):
On his saying there are some points of criticism, the most important: His attribution that alaml (the actions) are shart kaml
(conditionforcompleteness)totheSalaf,thisunrestrictedlyisnotcorrect,ratherthereisdetailedexplanation(tafsl)inthis:Theactions
whichmakeoneanunbeliever,regardlessifitisbyleaving(theseactions)liketrikjinsalamal,ortheShahdataynoraalh,orifit
wasbyperforming(theseactions)likeprostratingtoastatueorsacrificingforanotherthanAllh,thenthisisashartforsiatalmn
(correctnessofmn),andwhatisadhanb(sin)lessthankufr,thanthisisshartkaml.
RafulLimahanfatwalLajnatudDimah24
(LiftingtheBlameontheFatwaofthePermanentCommittee)
AuthoredbyMuammedibnSlimadDawsar
Thisbookhasanintroductionoffivescholars!!AndfromthemareashShaykhAbdalAzzarRjiandashShaykhSli al
Fawzn!25InthisbookadDawsaralsorefutestheissueatstake:leavingallactionsofthelimbsisnotmajorkufr
23
www.selefienederland.nl/site/files/attawassutu%20waliqtisaad.pdf
www.selefienederland.nl/site/files/raf3u%20laa2imah.pdf
24
25
Pleaselistenherefromminute18:55:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EdTSHRgLCk
AlJaabiree Ubayd describes the refutations of alHalabee against the Lajnah as a well mannered, strong refutation. And he also defended alHalabee
numeroustimesagainstthecriticismoftheLajnahandthebookRafulLaaimwhichrefutesalHalabee:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G47XeSF_PK8||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rNeVzNkD9A
AshShaykhRabialsodidntacceptthisbook:http://www.sahab.net/forums/?showtopic=133704
Questioner:QuestionOShaykh,wereceivedthebookRafulLaaìmahalaalLajnahadDaaimafromtheShaykhMohammedbinSalemalDawsari,with
introductions from Kibaar Mashaykh like Shaykh AlFawzaan, and Shaykh ArRaajhi, and Shaykh Sad alHameed, may Allaah protect them; So what is the
conditionofthisbook,oShaykh?
ShaykhRabi:ByAllah,thereiscriticismofitbybrothersfromtheyoungSalafis,Ihaventreadit,butsomeyoungpeoplesaytherearepointsofcriticism.
Questioner:Wouldyourecommendreadingthebook,oShaykh?
Thesenextstoomanyissueslikealalabshidingbehindmutashbihkalm,misquotingIbnTaymiyyahandotherscholarsand
explainingtheirwordsinthewrongmanner,likeAmjaddoes!AdDawsarspecificallyrefutesalalabandhisrefutationof
theLajnah.
So all these writings, audios and fatw of the scholars regarding the topic of Kufr and mn we have been studying and
spreadingformanyyearsnow.
SoitisfairtosaythatthisstatementofAbuInd:
NosoonerhadtheygotsomespeechfromsomeofthosescholarslikeShaykhalFawznandtheMuft,AbdalAzzexceptthattheaddd
HajritesbegantospreadshubuhtandstartedaccusingShaykhRabofIrjasignoftheirgreatdishonesty.Thereisnoreasonforthis
excepttoseekrevengeforthesakeofYayalajr.
IsagreatslanderandaliefromAmjad,mayAllhguidehim.Thisisalsoagreatinjustice,becausewhatwespreadwerent
shubuht.RatheritsAmjadwhohasbeenspreadingshubuhtthepast14yearsaswewillshowinourarticle,biqudratillh!
TherealitybehindtherecentcriticismagainstashShaykhRab
Asweveclearlyshown,wehaveapositioninwhichwefollowthemajorscholarsforyears.Wehavespreadrefutationsonal
alabforyearsnow,whichareinexactagreementwiththeviewpointsAmjadstilltriestodefendnow,thisclearlyshowsthe
alabSpubsconnection.
Hesays:
What the Shaykh has been doing for almost two decades is to defend those from Ahl alSunnah who do not make takfr of the one who
abandonsprayerfrombeingaccusedwithIrjbecausethatisthegoaloftheseevilpeople,theadddiyyah.
Wesay:AshShaykhRabinfactdefendedashShayhalAlbnforyearsandalsotheSunnahinmanyoccasionslikewhenthe
QutbiyyyntriedtoinfiltrateandspreadtheirpoisonintheranksofAhlasSunnah.Thisiswhywetranslatedmanyarticlesin
thepastonthissubjectanddefendedashShaykhRabonnumerousoccasions.
Whathaschangedthelasttwoyears,isthatashShaykhRabstartedtowritemanyarticlesinwhichheindirectlyaccusesthe
majorscholarsofAhlasSunnahofalHadddiyyahandatTakfiriyyah,andhedoesthisthroughsomespecificindividualsfromthe
ShaykhRabi:HowdoIrecommendthebookandIhaventreaditandtherearepointsofcriticism?
We Say: Here is clearly seen that asShaykh Rabi didnt accept this praise for the book and that he oposed the major scholar by referring to some young
salafees?!.
Nowin2013ashShaykhRabiacceptsthatalHalabeewasmistakenandheqoutedthefatwaaofthelajnahinmeaning!?
http://www.rabee.net/ar/articles.php?cat=8&id=237
Wewillgoinmoredetailonthisissuefurtherintothearticle,inshaaAllaah.
mashaykh of Ahl asSunnah who are refuting the NeoMurjiàh and their shubuht, and not by directly confronting the major
scholars who speak with the exact same speech as these individuals ashShaykh Rab is now attacking and accusing of al
adddiyyahandalKhrijiyyah.
So labeling each and every person who does this as a Haddd and Takfir and slandering him like Amjad does is unfair.
Otherwise: Why not attack the major scholars who speak with the same statements, and who support the writings against the Neo
Murjiàh,andalsorefuteashShaykhRabdirectlyandindirectlybasedonhisrecentwritingsandstatements?
OntopofthisashShaykhRabclearlyopposesthemajorscholarsfromtheSalafandtheKhalaf:
InhisweakeningoftheatharofAbdullhbinShaqqQ
HisdenialoftheIjmoftheabahasawholeregardingthekufroftheonewhoabandonstheprayer.
TheIjmofImmashShfi.
HisusingofsomeahdthwhicharemutashbihtoprovethattheonewholeavesofallactionsofthelimbscanstillbeMuslim.
Quotingtheunclearstatementsofthescholarsonthissubjectandleavingofftheirclearstatements(whicharemany!!).
AllthiswhileAmjadsays:
Finally,itisalsoimportanttokeepinmindthatShaykhRabconsiderstheonewhoabandonsprayertobeadisbeliever,andlikewisetheone
whopersistsinabandoningtheoutwarddeedsforhisentirelifetobeadisbeliever,shouldsuchapersonbefound.
Thisisstrange,becauseashShaykhRabisnowweakeningthesestances,whilethemajorscholarswarnedagainstspreadinga
differenceofopinion(thatisnonexistentwithinAhlasSunnah!!)regardingabandoningalltheoutwarddeeds!
SoinrealitythisisnotattackingashShaykhRabduetorevengeforalHajr,ratherthisisspreadinganddefendingthe
AqdahofAhlasSunnahineachandeverycircumstance,andveryimportant,itsjustreturningandstickingtothescholars!
Inthepastwhentheywerespreadinganddefendingthefalseideologyofalalab,AmjadandtherestoftheSpubsSquadof
Shenanigans were also shouting hysterically about Qutbiyyn, Takfiriyyn. Today they added two more titles to their name
callinglist:HadddiyyahandHajwirah.
Its really quite astounding the way Spubs are so incredibly extreme towards their understanding which they formed
themselvesbyshoppingintheworksofthescholars.Thisinitselfisizbiyyahandsomethingeveryscholarrejects.
AshShaykhRabhimselfstatedthatherefutedalAlbnandheemphasizedontheimportanceofnotfollowingmistakesof
ourbelovedscholars,andthatrefutingtheerrorfromeachpersonistheMadhhaboftheSalaf.
Hesaid:26
TherejectionofAhlalMedinahinholdingontothemistakesofalAlbnandothersthanhim:
Sixth:WerejectthemistakesofalAlbnandthemistakesofwhoisgreaterandmorebelovedthanhim.AndwedonotworshipAllh,
exceptwiththetruth,withwhatisconfirmedintheBookandtheSunnahwiththeunderstandingoftheSalafofthisUmmah,fromthe
abahandtheTbinwhofollowedthemingoodnessandthosewhotraversetheirpathinthismanhaj(methodology)anditsqawid
(principles),especiallytheqidah:
FromeveryonehisspeechistakenandrefutedexceptfromtheMessengerofAllh.
Thisisourmethodologyanditisclearlikethesunonouraudiocassettesandourwritings,thisisknownbythebelieversintheManhaj
asSalaf with truthanduprightness,and theknowledgeablesofit,they wagedawaragainstthe onewhohideshisenmity against this
methodologyanditspeople,fromthelikesofAbdalLatif,andhestriveshardtoextinguishthislightbywagingwaragainstitspeople,so
hehidtrickinganddeceivingwiththeclaimofasSalafiyyah.
AshShaykhRabmentionedsomeknowledgebasedissuesinwhichheandothersrefutedalImmalAlbn,like:
AlIstinah(seekinghelp)frominfidels;
AlBayah:TheoathofalliancetotheLeaders;
AshShaykhRabthensaid:WhydoyouconcealmyrefutationofalAlbnintheissueoftheonewhocursesAllh,andmytakfrof
theonewhocursesAllh,andmyclearexpression,manytimes,ofmyoppositiontohim,andmyclearexpressionindistancingfromhis
mistakesandmywarningstotheoneswhositwithmeagainsttaqliedofalAlbn.
AfterthisashShaykhRabmentionsthatAhlalMedinahdonotacceptanymistakefromascholar.Hementionsmanyscholars
likeIbnTaymiyyah,Ahmedandothers,andreferstothefactthatthewordsofnoonearechosenoverthewordsof
theProphet
Hethensays:
Andtheirmistakes,nomatterhowhightheirstatushasbecome,wetakethepositionoftheSalafregardingit.Wearenotparrotsandwe
were not raised, and all praise is due to Allh, on parrot behavior, and blind taqld, and crooked extremism, that the one who hasnt
smelledthescentofknowledgefromthelikesofyouwantstomakeobligatoryonus.
IhopethatAmjadreadsthesewordsofashShaykhRabatleastthreetimesandthenponders:
26
http://rabee.net/ar/books.php?cat=3&id=69Page13ofthepdf.
AshShaykhRabrefutedalImmalAlbnonnumerousoccasions,andhealsodifferedwithhimonindividualswithregardstoalJar
(praise)andatTadl(criticism).AshShaykhRabcriticizedandrefutedImmalAlbnwithregardstoshartkaml,andonthesubject
of cursing Allh. So is it allowed for us, Salafiyyn in the Netherlands, and everywhere else, to follow the criticism of scholars on ash
Shaykh Rab if he opposes the methodology of the Salaf and clear proofs? Or is he better than Imm Ahmed, alAlbn and Ibn
Taymiyyah?BearinginmindthatAmjadandthespubsgangrefutedtheLajnah,alAbbaadandothersinthepast!
SoAmjadneedstoconsidercarefully:DowehaveSalaffromthescholarsinourcriticism?Thisisthecoresubjectatstake,and
wenoticedthatSpubslefttheqawaaidoftheSalafyearsagoregardingmnandKufr,andthattheyfollowtheunderstandingof
alalab,evennow,andthattheydisplayextremetaqldandtaassubwithashShaykhRab,andmakeitobligatoryonothers
tofollowhimblindly.AndtheyrejectfollowingmujtahidnlikealFawzn,arRji, theMufti,andotherswhomwehavebeen
followingforyearsregardingtheseissuesandwellbeforeashShaykhRabslatestarticles.
OrisitobligatoryinordertobeatrueSalaftofollowAmjadandSpubs?Likeinthepastwithalalab,evenwhentheycraft
philosophicalarticlesthemselvesfilledwithfallacies(wheredidstickingtothescholarsgo?).AndthisAmjadhasnoproblem
whatsoeverwithansweringquestionsfromtheNetherlandswhilenotevenhavingreadwhatwewroteagainstBouchta,and
thensubsequentlyhemakestabdionusbasedonhisfaultyunderstanding.
NowheredidwementionanyofthepersonsAmjadtriestoassociatewithusinhishandiwork,butAmjadistryingtodeceive
thereaderintothinkingthatalJuhan,alGhmid,alJarbandothersinthepast,aretheonlyoneswhospreadthiscriticism
regardingtheseissues.
This is not true. The criticism on these issues regarding almn and alKufr has been spread for many years, like we
demonstrated already in the beginning of this treatise. So many scholars have spoken on the issue, and have criticized even
ImmalAlbn,likeashShaykhRabhimself!!SomeofthemwentbeyondboundslikeSafaralawlandothersfromthe
Qutbiyyn in the past, and others stuck to the scholars and wrote and spoke with criticism that is in full agreement with the
AqdahofAhlasSunnahwalJamahandthespeechofthemajorscholars.
SoeveryonewhowritesorspeakswithcriticismonthesesubjectsisnotautomaticallyfromtheQutbiyyn.Oneneedstolookat
twothingsfirstly:
I.
IstheonewhoiscriticizingfromAhlasSunnah?Sowecanhavepositivethoughtsforthereasonsofhiscriticism.
II.
LookintotheirwordsandweightheminthescalesofAhlasSunnah,iftheyarecorrectweacceptit,iftheyarewrongwereject
it.
ButtotheseNeoMurjiahtheclearwordsofthescholarsonalmnandalKufrbearnostatus.ThisisdemonstratedbySpubs
morethanonceinthealabPapers,labelingtheIjtihdofthemajorscholarstobeerroneous!?SotheseMurjiahofthecurrent
era viciously attack Ahl asSunnah on these issues, calling them Qutbiyyn and Khawrij, and trying to establish imaginary
connectionstoalQutbiyyah,whereastheirconnectiontopeopleaffectedbytheMurjiahlikealalabisasclearasthesunon
midday!
AsforwhatAmjadsaid:
In early 2012 some of these ignorant and misguided addds such as Abu Fujr Abd alFatt alSuml and Ms Millington al
TrinidtriedtotarnishsomeoftheSalafsbasedontheseissues.Refertohttp://www.salafitalk.com/threads/977fordetails.
Wesay:
Tocallthesetwobrothersadddsisclearinjustice.AbulFajrdefendedashShaykhYayalHajrverystrong,andexposed
allthedeceptionyouandyourpartymemberswerespreading.27AndsodidBrotherMusaMillington,allthetimebeingfartoo
kindtowardsyouandtherestoftheshenanigans.
TheyandmanyotherstudentsshowedthemanymistakesofalJbirUbayd,AbdullhalBukhr,AraftalMuammad and
Amjadsselfcraftedarticles.28
ThebrotherMusaMillingtonshowedAbuIndmanytimesthathedoesntfollowtheqawidofAhlasSunnahregardingal
JarwaatTadil,andhasexposedhisliesandalizbiyyahmanytimes.
ThisiswhyAmjadandhispartymembersoftheSpubsSquadhavechosentoignorethesetworealstudents,andthisproofs
that their position is extremely weak, just as their brethren here in the Netherlands who fled to their Squad of Shenanigans
seeking aid against the onslaught they were receiving from Ahl asSunnah in the Netherlands. Not being able to take care of
theirownbusinessbecausetheyareasignorantabouttheMadhhabasSalafasAmjadis.InthishedoesntdifferwithBouchta
andhiscohorts,whoalsorushedintothisfitnahandarenowexposed.29
Finally,beforewestartwithansweringsomeofthestatementsofAbuInd,wewouldliketosay:
AlloftheSalafiyyn(read:alizbalJadd)intheNetherlandswerenotabletorespondtoourcriticismonBouchta(norour
defenses on ashShaykh Yay for years!!). He himself also kept silent after our second refutation. What does this say about
their Dawah and their socalled Dut? Because according to them we are clearly deviant, ajurites, and going against all the
scholars! But they themselves cant refute our publications for years now, and they cant even defend their own Murshids.
InsteadtheykeptsilentclaimingthatnoattentionshouldbegiventotheHajorites.
27
http://aloloomenglish.net/vb/forumdisplay.php?32ASeriesofRefutationsuponTheDoubtsofManhajcom
http://aloloomenglish.net/vb/forumdisplay.php?33SpubsandTheirTails
28
http://aloloomenglish.net/vb/forumdisplay.php?31TheHizbiUbaydalJabireeandHisFollowers
29
RegardingImaanandKufr:
http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/70921356/664960923/name/Refutation+of+Amjad+Rafeeq.doc
http://musamills.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/reminderandclarification1.pdf
Then they contacted the Spubs Squad, seeking their aid, thinking they could use this subject of almn in their advantage to
finallystrikedowntheseHajuriteswhohavebeenathornintheirthroatsforyearsonceandforall.Notrealizingthatbythis
theyweretakingaknifetoagunfight.BecauseAmjadisthelastpersononeshouldaskforhelpintheissueofalmn,hewho
hasadarkbackgroundregardingtheseissuestosaytheleast,yettheyblameusfornotreturningtothescholars?Butlasttime
wecheckedAmjadwasnotascholar?Rathernotevenastudentofknowledge?
Sodotheyreturntothescholarsnow?WecamewithclearwordsfromthescholarsandAmjadchosestorefuteus,helping
outhispartymembersintheNetherlands,whilehehasntevenreadourwordsnorthewordsofBouchta,whoheisblindly
defending?Soisthisstickingtothescholars?Thissloganoftheirsisveryshallow,andinfactinrealityitmeans:Followa
fewscholarsblindlywithoutanyformofcriticism.
Andifyoudontaccepttheirviews,evenwithproofsandbyabidingtotheqawidofAhlasSunnah,thantheydeclareyoutobe
aadddandaajur,becausetheyfollowthescholarsandthereforecanperformJarandTadl,writearticlesbuilduponhot
airandcanevenrefutethePermanentCommittee,ashShaykhalAbbaad,andmanyothers!!
IfweopposeashShaykhRab,evenwhilefollowingthemajorscholars,weareaddds?IftheyopposetheAqdahofAhlas
Sunnah,andthespeechofthemajorscholars,theyareSalafiyyn?WesawmanyofthecowardsintheNetherlandsandBelgium
spreading Amjads article and kissing up to himWhile they have been claiming for years that they should ignore us? This
shows their dishonesty. Amjad is exactly the same: He ignores many proofs given by brothers from alUloom but keeps
attackingthemwithoutgoingintothedebate?ThesearealsothemannersofAraftandothersofalizbalJadd.
Thishoaxandpureizbiyyahwillbedebunkedandexposedinthefollowingpages,inshaaAllh.MayAllhguideusall.mien.
Crossing the Ts and Dotting the Is:

Answering the Aristotelian discourse of Abu Ind
BeforeansweringAmjadwewouldliketostresssomethings:
WewillnotbeansweringeverysinglepointAbuIndbringsupinhisAristoteliandiscourse.Itssufficienttoanswerthemain
pillarswherehisphantasmsarebuiltupon,inordertoshowthesincerereaderthatAbuIndis:
InclearcontradictiontotheAqdahofAhlasSunnahonalmn
Distortingthetextsoftherevelationontheissuesofalmn,explainingthemaccordingtothemethodologyoftheMurjiàh
Inclearoppositiontothemajorscholarsintheirtheoreticalapproachofthisissueaswellastheirpracticalimplementationofit.
Distortingthespeechofthescholars,leavingoftheirmukamspeechandexploitingtheirmutashbihspeechinordertoaidhis
Irj Madhhab
Following the extreme ways of Fli alarbee in alJar wa atTadeel, which demonstrates the influence Flis methodology
stillhasonSpubs.
FollowingthemethodologyofAlialalabinunderstandingtheissuesofalmn,whichdemonstratesthemorethanadecade
oldalabSpubsconnection.
SoourmethodologyinansweringAbuIndsphantasmswillbeinthefollowingmanner:
WewillquotesomeofBouchtasspeech,thatisblindlydefendedbyAbuIndandwill providesomebackgroundinformation
whichwillshowthathisfictiveadddiHajurilinkonlyexistsinhisparanoidmind!
We will leave off all his philosophical nonsense and his own explanations and talum. We have living scholars who already
explainedtheseissuesingreatdetailandrefutedtheSalafofAmjad,alalab,inthepast.Sowewillsimplysticktothescholars
inansweringAbuInd.
WewillprovidethereaderwiththespeechofthescholarsthatAbuIndisdistorting,andwewillquotetheirspecificmukam
wordsregardingthisspecifictopicof:leavingoffactionsofthelimbsandwhatisrelatedtoit,ontopofthatwewillalso
usetheunderstandingofotherscholarsontheirwords,andnotlikeAmjadwhouseshisownunderstanding.
WewillprovidethereaderwiththenecessaryfactsthatAmjadleavesoutwhenspeakingonthisimportantissue.
WewillshowtothereaderthatAmjadlacksfundamentalunderstandingregardingtheseissues.Andthatheneverstickstothe
scholars, but instead took his understanding on these issues from the teachings of alalab. And then starts shopping in the
wordsofthescholarstobolsterhisfalsemethodology.
FinallywewilldisplaysomeofthecontradictionsinthewordsofashShaykhRabandthecriticismofotherscholarsonthese
viewpoints.WhichwillproofthatashShaykhRabunfortunatelyopposestheScholarsonthisissue.
MayAllhacceptthissmalleffortofoursindefendingHisReligion.
AnsweringtheTalbstofAbuInd
WehadsomeproblemsquotingAmjadbecauseheupdatedthisarticleatotalof3or4times.From72pagestothelastupdate
on the 20th of August with a total of 106 pages! The additions consist mainly, how could it not, of shubuht, name calling,
slanderingandgeneralspeechofScholarswhichAmjadthinkscanhelphiscase.
Amjadsaidonpage12:
WithrespecttoyourquestionsregardingtheajwirahadddiyyahintheNetherlandsandtheiraccusationofIrjagainstthebrother
Bouchta(hafidhahullh)onthebasisthatheheldtheviewthattheonewhodieswithoutperforminghisobligationsandwasneglectfulof
actionisasinfulMuslim(andnotadisbeliever)
Wesay:Wewrotetwoarticlesinwhichwequotedmanyscholars.Amjadnowherequotesourwords,neitherBouchtas.And
then wants to speak about this issue?! We will give the English readers some insight in what we brought as proofs against
Bouchta.
Thefirstarticle30:
Inthe1starticlewequotedBouchtawhosaidthat:theonewhodoesnoactionswiththelimbsatallwasstillabelieverandfromAhl
asSunnahwalJamah,aslongashedidnotjoinoneofthesectariangroups.
WerefutedthisfalsestatementofIrjwiththespeechfromthefollowingScholars:
1.
IbnTaymiyyah;
2.
Immaljurry;
3.
IbnAbZaydalQayrawn;
4.
ImmalAwz;
5.
SufynathThawr;
6.
SufynibnUyaynah;
7.
ImmashShfi;
8.
Alumayd;
9.
AbUbaydibnQsimasSallm;
10. AlfidhIbnRajabalanbal;
11. AbTlibalMakk;
12. AshShaykhalFawzn.
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halaqahbouchtaenalimaan
WealsoprovidedBouchtawithalink31tothekalmofotherscholarslike:
1.
AlFawzn
2.
AlAbbd
3.
AlGhudayyn
4.
ArRjih
5.
AnNadjm
6.
ZaydalMadkhal
The question to Amjad is: Are these scholars adddiyyah or ajwirah? This shows that Amjad attacked us based upon
izbiyyah, and based upon blindly defending their party members, because nowhere did we mention ashShaykh Jarbu, ash
Shaykh alGhmid and ashShaykh alJuhan! This fictive link was made by Amjad because he doesnt dare to slander these
scholars openly, and because he is not able to refute the knowledge based criticisms with academic arguments, so this true
adddstartscoughingupadhominemarguments,ashealwaysdoeswithpeoplewhoopposehisfallaciesandextremism.
Thesecondarticle32:
Bouchtastatedthefollowing:..Wellandbasicallyitcomesdowntomehavingsaid:SomeonewhobelievesinAllhuTaaala,
believesintheMessenger ,believesintheHereafter,andbelievesinHell,inParadise,andsoon.Hebelievesinactionsthat
theyareobligatoryandsoon,buthedoesnotperformdeeds,hedoesnothing,hedoesntperformanyactions,thatheremains
fromAhlasSunnahwalJamah,andhejustremainsabeliever,butofcourseasinfulbeliever,butheremainsabeliever.
However,Ididthisstatement,IthinkbasedonwhatIunderstoodfromanumberofstatementsofashShaykhalAlbnrahimahullaahu
talabutitbecamecleartomelaterthatthisstatementiswrong.SoherebyItakebackthisstatement,Itakeitback.
Bouchtacontinues:
andwhodoesnoactionatall,heisnotabelieverwithAhlasSunnahwalJamah,andthatisthecorrectopinioninthisissue,
inwhichofcourseadifferenceofopinionexists(?!),butthatistherightopinionandthatswhatIbelieve.Sotheoldsaying,once
againiswrong,andIjusttakethisbackofficially,fortheonewhodidnotknowityet
So Bouchta clearly acknowledges that he had this wrong understanding of almn and alKufr and that he made a wrong
statement.IsheallowedtosaythisaccordingtoyouAmjad?
Theoneyouareadvocatingforacknowledgesthathewaswrong!AndthatthisopinionisnotcorrectwithAhlasSunnah!!
TheonlythingleftwasthatBouchtastillclaimedthatthisisanissuewherethereisadifferenceofopinionwithinAhlasSunnah
andthathestartedwateringdownhisoldmistake,bybolsteringitandprovidinghisfollowerswiththemutashbihtextsonthis
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MmNsCjA4Cw
http://selefienederland.nl/site/index.php/artikelen/category/14sektengroeperingenorganisatiespersonengedachtengoeden?download=202%3Abouchta
aboeabdillaahindeweegschaalvanahlassoennah2ehalaqahbouchtaenalimaan
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issue,claimingthatmanyscholarsareofthis(nowaccordingtohimselfincorrect)opinion,leavinghisfollowersaftermany
yearsofteachinghisfollowersalIrjinthisissueinthedarkoncemore.
Sowerespondedagainwiththesecondarticle,demonstratingthat:
1.
Bouchtawasspreadinghiserroneousviewthattheonewhodoesnoactionswiththelimbsatallwasstillabeliever
andfromAhlasSunnah(!?)foryears(likeAmjad),andthathewasheavilyinfluencedbyalalab(linkAmjadalso!!),and
thatheclearlyopposedmanyUlamaa(likeAmjadalso!!).
2.
Bouchta claimed he based his understanding on a number of statements of ashShaykh alAlbn. But in reality his
understandingwasbasedupontheunderstandingofalalab(likeisthecasewithAmjad)onanumberofstatementsofash
Shaykh alAlbn. So we quoted the mukam statements of the Imm in which he clearly made takfr on the one who does no
actionswiththelimbsatall.WealsoreturnedtotheunderstandingofsomeofthemajorscholarsonthestatementsofalImmal
Albn,likeashShaykhasSuaym33andasShaykhalAbbdwhoexplainedtheAqdahofalImmalAlbnspecificallyon
thispointandrefutedBouchtasclaim!
3.
BouchtaclaimedthatonthisissuethereisadifferenceofopinionwithinAhlasSunnahandwerefutedthiswiththespeechof
ashShaykhalFawzn,ashShaykhanNadjmie,ashShaykhZaydalMadkhalie.
4.
Bouchtaaftertakingbackhisoldstatementsanddeemingthemwrongclaimsthattherestillremainsanishkaal(problem)
inthisissue,becausetherearecertainahdthwhoareproblematicbecausetheirdhaahirmeaningpointstothefactthatthe
one who does no actions with the limbs at all is still a believer. So we clearly refuted this and demonstrated that there is no
ishkaalonthisissuewithAhlasSunnah,andthattheishkaalonlyexistsinthemindsoftheNeoMurjiàhandthosewhoare
influencedbythem.AsforAhlasSunnah,thosewhoreallysticktothescholarsandreturntothemfortheirunderstandingofthe
Aqdah of the Salaf, they have no ishkaal whatsoever in these issues, cause they refer the mutashbih to the mukam. So we
placedrefutationsofscholarslikeashShaykhalAbbd,ashShaykhalFawzn,theMufti,ashShaykhliaalShaykh,proofing
thatthereisnoishkaaltobefoundwithAhlasSunnah.
So Amjad: Who are those adddiyyah you keep talking about? Do you mean these scholars who aid the Ijm of the Salaf,
opposeyourimaginarykhilf.AndwhattosayaboutBouchtawhoyouaredefendingblindly?Playingthedevilsadvocate.He
took back the statement you are making all this fuss about? Waging a war forit, clattering your blunt Irj sword against the
shieldsofAhlasSunnah.
Butyourwarcryisnothingbutasmellyredherring,falselyaccusingmashaykhlikealJuhanandalGhmid,andalJarbas
adddiyyahinordertoestablishanimaginarylink.Whenthisfictivelinkisestablishedin themindsoftheirblindfollowers
theycaneasilywaveofftheknowledgebasedcriticismsontheirMurshid,safeguardinghispositionintheirizb.Thesearethe
wellknownpoliticsoffearSpubshasbeenusingforyears,thisistheirmethodologyinmisleadingtheirfollowersawayfrom
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thepureknowledgebasedSalafeemethodology.SothisexplainswhyAmjadtriestolinkustoalJuhan,alGhmidieandal
Jarb.BecausetheystartedcriticizingtheirMurshidashShaykhRabinanissuethathasalreadybeenclarifiedmorethan14
yearsagobythemajorscholarswhentheyrefutedtheirspiritualteacherAlialalab.
SoAmjadsgoalistoaidhisIrjwhichhehasbeenspreadingformorethantenyearsandtodefendBouchtaonthebasesof
izbiyyah.
AmjadcomeswithhisownpersonalunderstandingandquotesIbnTaymiyyahnumeroustimesandstatesonpage13:
WefindImmalAlbnandShaykhRabaffirming,thatitisnotpossibleforapersontospendalifetimewithoutanyoutwarddisplayof
mn,andthatinreality,suchapersoncannotbeaMuslim,butahypocriteinwhoseheartmnneverentered.
Wesay:Indeed,andthereforethescholarsrefutetheclaimthattheresadifferenceofopinioninthematterofleavingoffall
actionswiththelimbs.Becausealalabandothers(fromthelikesofAmjad)spreadthispointofview.
SoAmjadboldyclaimsonpage14ofthealabPapers2.0atfootnote27:
TheadddiyyahignorethatthisdifferencehasexistedfromtheSalaf,fromthetimeoftbinsuchasImmalZuhr(d.124H)andthose
afterhimsuchasImmMlik,ammdbinZayd,ImmalShfiandothers.
Againtryingtoestablishafictivelinkbetweenopposingthefalseclaimofthisnonexistentkhilfandtheadddiyyah.
SobasicallytheSpubslogiccomesdowntothis:
SPUBS LOGICAL FALLACY AND EXTREMISME IN TABDEE
Refuting
thedoubts
ofthe
Murjiàh
Opposing
theKhilaaf
Defending
theAqidah
oftheSalaf
Spubs brain
Spubs Logic
TheTalbeesbegins:AbuIndplayingscramblewiththespeechofthescholars34
AmjadstartsspreadinghisvenomandquotesIbnBzonpage14and16:
Meaning,toaffirmthattheinwardistiedtotheoutwardandatthesametimenotmaketakfroftheonehasthebasisofmninhisheart
(tadqandinqiy),hasutteredtheshahdah,butisextremelysinful,doesnotperformhisobligationsandfallsintotheprohibitionsand
dieswithoutprayingorbringingtherestoftheobligationsorrighteousdeeds?AndisthissomethingthattheMurjiahsayanddoesthis
scenariofitinwiththeclaimsoftheMurjiah?
Infact,thisisaviewfoundamongstafactionofAhlalSunnahpastandpresentanditisheldinlightofSharahtexts.
ImmIbnBzwasaskedthequestionArethescholarswhospeakwiththeabsenceoftakfiroftheonewholeavesalloftheactionsofthe
limbswhileatthesametimeprofessingthetwotestimonieswithhistongueandhavingthebasisofmnpresentinhisheartfromamongst
theMurjiah?Andheanswered,No.ThisoneisfromAhlusSunnahwalJamah.Whoeverspeakswiththeabsenceoftakfroftheone
wholeavesfastingorzakhorajjthisone(i.e.theonewholeavesthesematters)isnotakfir.However,hehascommittedagreatsin.In
theviewofsomescholarsheisakfir,howeverthecorrectviewisthathedoesnotbecomeadisbelieverwiththemajorkufr.Asfortheone
wholeavestheprayerthenthemostcorrectview(alarja)isthatthisismajorkufrwhenitisabandoneddeliberately33
AndAjmadsaidinthefootnote:
33HiwaarHawlaMasaailitTakfrMaaAllaamah ashShaikhAbdulAzeezIbnBzanditisfoundalsoinalFurqaanMagazine(no.
94). Shaykh Ibn Bz did not consider the view presented in the question to be Irj even though he holds the view of takfr of whoever
abandonstheprayer.
We say: These are the tactics of Amjad in fooling the people by playing with the words of the scholars, hunting down their
speechthatismutashbih,andleavingofallthespecficmukamspeech.LookhowAmjadtriestodistortthespeechofIbnBzby
addingthewordalltothequestion.SoinArabicweseethefollowingwords:
Translateditsays:Arethescholarswhospeakwiththeabsenceoftakfiroftheonewholeavestheactionsofthelimbs
Itdoesnotsay:alltheactionsofthelimbs
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AmjadbringshisoldAqidahbacktolifewhilequotingIbnBaazandtheLajnah.Comparepages16wherehequotesIbnBaazandtheLajnahin2014withthe
articleReadingsinAdvancedQutubismPartI:SharhMuqaddimahAalQutbonpage13:
http://www.spubs.com/sps/downloads/pdf/GRV070010.pdf
YouseetheexactsamequotesandexactthesamemannerofselectivelyleavingoutwordsofImaamIbnBaazandtheLajnah!Wewillpresentthewordsof
theseUlamaatothereader.
So he added the word all without brackets to make it look as if the question was unambiguously about leaving of all the
actions of the limbs. In order to make the answer of Ibn Bz useable for his own agenda while leaving off all his mukam
speechonthisissue?AlImmIbnBzisquotedatotalof11times(!!)inthebooklet:AqwlDhawielArfnfannaAmlal
JawriiDkhilatunfMoesammalmnwhichwaswrittenbyasShaykhasSinniewithcommentsbyashShaykhalFawzn
whichtotallyrefutesAmjadsclaimofkhilf.
AndAmjadisawareofthisbookletbecausehehimselfmentioneditasaresourceonpage69,footnote154:
Mentionedby ImalSinninAqwlDhaw alUrfnandcitedbyShaykh RabinIttif AhlalidqwalUrfn(pp.

186187).
So why did Amjad leave out 11quotes of alImm Ibn Bz with the extra enlightening comments of alAllmah alFawzn?
Well simply because in all the other eleven the opinion of alImm Ibn Bz is very clearly quoted and this destroys his
methodology. So its upon those who follow Abu Ind and the Spubs Squad of Shenanigans to leave the understanding of
AmjadandtoreturnbacktothescholarsandtheirunderstandingoftheBookandtheSunnah,andtheirunderstandingofthe
speechofthescholarsthatismutamil(carriesmorethanonemeaning).
SothisshubhahofAmjadhasalreadybeenansweredinthefollowingbook,praisedbyalAllmahAbdullhalAqlQ:
Almn inda asSalaf wa Alqatahu bi lAmal wa Kashfu Shubuht alMuirn (Almn with the Salaf and its
ConnectiontotheActionsandUnveilingtheMisconceptionsoftheContemporaries)35
ThisbookwasauthoredtorefutethefalseclaimsbypeoplelikeAmjadandparticulartoclearthisissuewearespeakingabout!
TheauthorquotesthefatwausedbyAmjadinvolume2,page58/59andsaid:
Isay:thisisthestrongestwithwhichthey(theneomurjiàh)conductprooffromthewordsoftheShaykhraimahullhinthisissue
and there is no contradiction between this and what I transmitted from him (the kufr of the one who abandoned all the actions of the
limbs),becausehiswordshereareabouttarkd alaml (leavingofd(single)actions),likefasting,azzakt,alajj,theprayer,and
thedifferenceofopinionregardingitis(mutabar)validwithinAhlasSunnah,andtheShaykhdidntspeakaboutleavingalltheactions,
evenifthequestionerintendedthat,butitisnothiddenthatthephrase:tarkamlaljawri (leavingtheactionsofthelimbs36)
canimplyleavingalkull(allactions),andcanimplyleavingalbadh(some),andtheShaykhrepliedonlyonleavingsome.
AsforwhatItransmittedfromhimthanthatisclear(sareeh)regardingleavingalkull(allactions),andregardinghisjudgementonthe
contradictorystatementthatitisthestatementoftheMurjiah.Soonedoesntleavethese(clearsayings),andholdsontowhichis
outsidethepointof differing,causetheonewhowantsthetruthlooksforit,andthesuccessful istheonewho isgranted
successfromAllh
35
Thisbookcanbedownloadedinpdfhere:
36
WhichAmjadtranslatedas:alloftheactions.
Wefoundthisexplanationverystrongbecause:
The author quotes many instances in which Ibn Bz clearly makes takfr of the one who leaves all actions of the
limbs,andclearlydifferentiatesbetweenalamalthatisnecessaryforalmntobecorrect,andalamalthatisfrom
thecompletenessofalmn.SotakenallthesefactsinconsiderationitsimpossiblefortheNeoMurjiàh(likeAmjad
andthelikes)touseIbnBzasasupportfortheirMadhhabofalIrj.
AshShaykh Ibn Bz was the Head of the Committee who gave the fatw to ban the books of Ahmed azZahrn
(1419H)andMuradShukr(1419H)whobothspreadthisdeviantview.WhereasAmjadrejectedthesefatwfrom
thePermanentCommittee,defendinghisMadhhabofalIrjinhisarticleReadingsinAdvancedQutubisme:PartIon
page13:
TheverdictagainstazZahraaniandAdnaanAdbdulQadirontheirbooksonmninwhichdespitetheirexplicitlystating
their belief that actions are essential to mn, a rukn (pillar) of it, from the reality (haqeeqah) of it, and their very clear
refutationsoftheMurjiahonthispoint,intheverysamebooks,andsoon,theywerestillaccusedwithIrj.Andthisis
becausetheyspokeoftheviewpointthattheonewhohasnoaction(whilehavingthebasisandrootofmn)will
notremainintheHellfireforever,basingtheirviewpointonsomeauthentictextsthatstatetheremovalfromthe
Fireofthosewhohadnotdoneanygoodwhatsoever.
AndweholdthistobeanerroneousijtihaadonbehalfoftheCommittee,sincethesayingoftheMurjiahisthattheone
withnoactionsisaBeliever,perfectinhisfaith,becausetothemactionsarenotfrommn.Butasforthesayingthattheone
withnogooddeedswillbetakenoutofHellfire(bearinginmindthedifferenceofopinionontheabandonmentofprayer)then
thatisoneofthetwosayingsofAhlusSunnah, asisindicatedin theverdictsoftheScholarsandhas norelationto the
saying of the Murjiah, unless it is added to it that the one who dies with no actions, while having the ability to do so, is a
Believer,perfectandcompleteinhismn,butAhlusSunnah,thosefromthemwhospeakwiththedeliverancefromtheFireof
thosewhohadnotdoneanygood,donotsaythat,refugeisfromAllhthattheyshouldsaythat.37
So this again shows the more than a decade old alabSpubs connection, and the false methodology Amjad is following in
deceivingthepeopleonthissubjectbytamperinganddistortingthespeechofthescholars.
WewillnowprovidethereaderwithsomeofIbnBzsquotes:
AshShaykh ibn Bz Q said when asked the following question: Aml alJawri (the actions of the limbs), are they shart
kaml(conditionforcompletion),orshartsiah(conditionforcorrectness)ofalmn?!
Heanswered:AmlalJawrilikeasawm(fasting)andasadaqah(charity),andazZakttheyarefromKamlalmn(the
completenessofalmn),andleavingthemoffisaweakeningofalmn.Butaalh;thenaawb(thecorrectopinion)isthat
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leavingitisKufr;SothepersonwhenhecomeswithalAmlaaali(righteousactions)thanthisisfromthecompletenessof
almn
[AqwlDhawielArfnfannaAmlalJawriiDgilatunfMusammaalmnp.144]
TheShaykhalsosaidinadialoguewithMajallahalMishkt:
alMishkt: Ibn ajr mentioned in alFat when he speaks on the subject of almn and alAmal, and if they are inside the
meaning of almn (daakhiloen fie lMusamm), he mentions that they are shart kaml (condition for completion), alaafidh
said:AndtheMutazilahsaid:ItisalAmal,andanNutq(speech),andalItiqd(belief),andthedistinctionbetweenthemandtheSalaf
isthattheymakealAmlashart(condition)foritscorrectness,andtheSalafmakeitashart(condition)foritscompleteness.
SotheShaykhanswered:No,itsaJuz(part),notashart(condition),itsaJuz(part)ofalmn,almnisqawl(speech),
andAmal(action)andAqdahi.e.tadq(affirmationintheheart),andalmnwithAhlasSoennahwalJamahconsistsofal
qawl,andalAmal(action)andatTadq.
alMishkt:Therearethosewhosaythatitisinsidealmnbutthatitisshartkaml(aconditionforcompleteness)?
AshShaykh: No, no, it is not shart kaml, its a Juz (part), a Juz of almn. This is the statement of the Murjiah38. The
Murjiahviewalmn tobeQawl(speech)andTadq(affirmation) only,andtheothers(oftheMurjiah)say:alMarifah(knowledge).
Andsomeofthemsay:atTadq.Andallofthisiswrong.ThecorrectviewwithAhlasSunnahisthatalmnisQawl,andAmaland
Aqdah,like(mentioned)inalWsiiyyah(ofIbnTaymiyyah),itincreaseswithobedienceanditdecreaseswithdisobedience.
alMishkt:WithalAmal?JinsalAmalisintended?
AshShaykh:Ofaltandawmandother[thanitfrom]39theactionsoftheheartfromkhawf(fear)andraj(hope).
alMishkt:TheymentionthatudidnotcommentateonthatinalFat?
AshShaykh:Idontknow,ourcommentswerebefore40yearsago,beforewewenttoalMednah,andwewenttoalMednah
intheyear1381H,andwerecordedthecorrectionsonalFatIthinkin1377Hor78,soapproximatelymorethan40yearsago.I
dontremembermaybeitpassedanditdidnotcometoourattention.
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AshShaykhSlialFawzncommentatedonthispointstatingthefollowing:i.e.thestatementthatalAmalisshartkamlforalmnisthestatementof
theMurjiah
39
AdditionofclarificationfromashShaykhSlialFawznafidhullh.
ThebrotherAbdalAzzibnFayalarRjiiinJardahalJazrahsaid:
AndweaskedourShaykhalImmibnBzQintheyear1415HandwewereinoneofhisclassesaboutalAml,are
theyshartsiahforalmnorshartkaml?
SoheQsaid:FromalAmliswhatisshartsiahtoalmn,almnisnotcorrectwithoutit,likeaalh,whoever
leavesitoffhasdisbelieved.Andfromitiswhatisshartkaml,almniscorrectwithoutit,withthedisobedienceoftheone
wholeavesitoff,andhissin40.
ThenIsaidtohimQ:ThoseoftheSalafwhodontmaketakfruponthetrikaalh,isalAmalaccordingtothemshart
kaml?Orshartsiah?
He said: No, rather alAmal according to all of them is shart siah, except that they differ regarding what makes almn
correctfromit.Soagroupsays:Itisaalh,andthisissupportedbytheIjmoftheabahraiyaAllhuanhuthisis
reported by Abdullh ibn Shaqq. And others say something different than it. Except that Jins alAmal (the category of
actionsasawhole)isnecessaryforthecorrectnessofalmnwithalloftheSalaf.SothereforealmnisQawl,andAmal,
andItiqd,itisnotcorrect(laayai)exceptwithit,combined.41
AmjadquotesThePermanentCommitteeforResearchandVerdictsandclearlytamperswiththeir
understanding!!
Ajmadsaysonpage16:
The Permanent Committe for Research and Verdicts was asked, A man says There is none worthy of worship but Allh alone and
MuammadistheMessengerofAllhbuthedoesnotperformthefourpillarsofprayer,zakh,fastingandajjandhedoesnotperform
theotheractionsrequestedintheSharah.DoesthispersondeservetheintercessionoftheProphet()ontheDayofJudgementsothat
hewillnotentertheFireevenforalimitedperiod?Andtheyanswered,WhoeversaidThereisnoneworthyofworshipbutAllhalone
andMuammadistheMessengerofAllhandabandonedtheprayer,zakhandajjwhilstrejectingtheobligationofthesefourpillars,
or one of them, after (the proof has) reached him, he is an apostate from Islm, his repentance is to be sought and if he repents, his
repentanceisacceptedandwillbeworthyof(receiving)intercessionontheDayofJudgementifhedieduponfaith.Butifhepersistedin
hisrejectiontherulerwouldkillhimduetohisdisbeliefandapostasy,andhewillhavenoshareoftheintercessionoftheProphetorother
than him on the Day of Judgement. And if he abandoned prayer alone out of laziness and laxity, then his a disbeliever witha disbelief
throughwhichheexitsfromthereligionofIslminthemostcorrectofthetwosayingsoftheScholars.Howthenwhenhecombinesthe
40
AshShaykhSlialFawzncommentatedonthispointstating:ButJinsalAmal(genusofac on)isfromtherealityofalmn(minaqqatilmn),not
justashart(condition)only!
AshShaykhSlialFawzncommentatedonthispointstating:AhlasSunnahandtheKhawrijandtheMutazilahsay:almnisQawlandAmaland
I qd,exceptthattheKhawrijandtheMutazilahsay:almnvanisheswiththevanishingofalAmalmutlaqan(sowiththemac onsareabsolute).AndAhl
asSunnahsay:FromalAmalthereiswhatcausesalmntovanishwithitsdisappearance,likeaalh,theonewholeavesitdisbelieveswiththedisbelieve
thattakesoneoutofthereligion,basedupontheauthenticproofsthathavecomeonthissubject.AndfromalAmliswhatcausesalmntodecreasewith
thedisappearanceofit,anditdoesnotdisappearintotalityliketherestofalAml.
41
abandonment of zakh, fasting and pilgrimage to Allhs Sanctified House alongside it?! So upon this, he will not be deserving of the
intercessionoftheProphet()orothersifhedieduponthisstate.Andthosefromthescholarswhosaidthatbyabandoningthesepillars
heisadisbelieveronlythroughthedisbeliefofactionwhichdoesnotexpelhimfromthefoldIslm,theyholdthathewillbedeservingof
receivingintercession,evenifhewascommittingwhataremajorsins,ifhediedasabeliever.42
Wesay:WehavesomeobservationsregardingthistalbsofAmjad.ManyreadersdontknowtheoldAmjadandhisconnection
toalalab,butwedo.AllpraiseisduetoAllh,andwewillsimplyquotewhathesaidandwroteinthepast.
SotherearemanyfatwfromthePermanentCommitteewhichrefutethestanceofAmjad.Soheishidingthesefatwforhis
followers,andonlyshowsthemthosefatwhecanuseforhisownagenda.Thismanisreallyafraudwithnolimitsandhe
knowsthisverywell.CauseAmjadhimselfacknowledgedinthepastthatthePermanentCommitteesawthispointofviewas
Irj,hesaidinthealabPaperspart3onpage16:43
QUTUBISTOPPORTUNISMANDTHEVERDICTSOFTHESCHOLARSONIRJ44
TherecentverdictsofthePermanentCommitteeareallcenteredontheissue(predominantly)oftheonewhoabandonsall
theactionsofgoodnessandthendies.DoeshedieasaMuslimornot?45
ThebooksofAdnaanAbdulQadir,azZahraani(whoisnotknowntous),AliHasanalHalabiareconnectedtothisissue.46Despitethe
fact that all of those mentioned consider actions to be fundamental to mn, and a pillar of mn and a reality of mn and so on, the
verdictwasstillissuedagainstthemonthebasisthatholdingthatapersonwhoabandonsalltheactionsremainsaMuslimisIrj.47
Thediscussiontherefore,isrelatedtowhetheractions(individualactionsorinagenericsense,jinsulamal)areacondition
forthevalidity(sihhah)orcompletion(kaml)ofmn.48
42
Thisfatwawasalsoquotedinthearticle:ReadingsinAdvancedQutubismPartI:SharhMuqaddimahAalQutbonpage13:
Thefatwawassignedby:SignedbyAbdullaahbinQu'ood,AbdullaahibnGhudayyn,AbdurRazzqalAff,andAbdulAzzibnBz.
SoAmjadnowjustrepeatshisslanderin2014andbringshisoldshubuhaatbacktolifeagain!
43
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31383236/The%20halabi%20papers%203.pdf
44
Nowin2014itareHaddaadeedoubtsandAmjadsays:Inthearticlewearerefutingonpage4:
NosoonerhadtheygotsomespeechfromsomeofthosescholarslikeShaykhalFawznandtheMuft,AbdalAzzexceptthattheadddHajritesbeganto
spreadshubuhtandstartedaccusingShaykhRabofIrjasignoftheirgreatdishonesty.
Wesay:AmjadisonlytryingtodefendtheIrjaatheCommitteehasbeenrefutingfrom2000untilnow.AndthisbehaviorshowstheirextremisminatTabdee,
becausetothemapparentlyitsnotpossibleforanyoneinthisworldtoagreewiththeCommitteeandbefreefromtheHaddadiyyeenandQutbiyyeen?
45
Whichtheydeny.SowhydoyoushopinthewordsoftheCommitteewhentheirwordsarecrystalclearinthisissue?
46
LikeyouareconnectedtoalHalabeeandthisiswhyyouwrotetheHalabeepapersandmanyotherarticles.Nowin2014youarestillontheMadhhabofal
HalabeewithalImaan,andyoutrytodeceivethepeoplebymakingitlookasifyouarewiththescholars,whileinfactyoutwisttheirunderstanding!
47
SowhylabelthepeoplewhoacceptallthesefataawaaasQutbiyyienandHaddaadiyyah?Whydontyouacknowledgethisfactin2014andwhydoyoutryto
abuse the Committee making readers think the Committee has your faulty understanding and that they dont see that the statement that a person who
abandonsalltheactionsremainsaMuslimisastatementofIrjaa'?WeacceptedthisstanceoftheCommitteeforover7yearsnow.Backthenwewere
QutbiyyahandnowHajaawirah?
48
AndthisiswhyAmjaddeliberatelymisquotesIbnalBanaaalHanbalie,IbnBaaz,thePermanentCommittee,andalsoIbnRajabinhisarticle.Wewilladdall
thewordsoftheseUlamaaanduncoverthetalbeesofAmjad!
Itisourview49,thatwhatazZahraani,AdnaanAbdulQadirandAliHasanholdastheirreligionisnodifferenttowhattheLajnahholds,
savethatformerthreewithholdfromthetakfirofanindividualwhohasutteredtheShahadahandhasthebasisofmnin
hisheart,buthasnogoodactionswhilstbearinginmindthedifferenceofopinionconcerningtheabandonmentofprayer.Andwe
hold that the Lajnahs accusation against the aforementioned with promoting the madhhab of Irj is in fact erroneous,50
from the point of view that the aforementioned are talking about the principles of takfir (with respect to the issue of the one who
abandonsalltheactionsoutofdisobedience)whiletheLajnahistalkingabouttherealityofmnandaffirmingthatactionsarefrom
mn.Weholdthatthisisthetruthofthematterandthattheintentofonepartyhasnotbecomecleartotheother.
AnditisfromthisperspectivethatShaikhAliHasanstatedaswehavementionedinourearlier
discourseinhisreplytothePermanentCommittee.51
SoAmjadknowsthestanceoftheCommitteeontheseissues,hehimselfpublishedtheirstanceinhisformerarticlestryingto
refute their fatw, so why is Amjad now trying to use this fatwa from the Committee for his own agenda, while already
knowing their position on this matter? So this is the real meaning of their slogan Stick to the scholars, its sticking to their
mutashbihspeechandleavingofftheirmukamspeechwhenthisupholdstheMadhhaboftheizb.
SoAmjadandcodontacceptthestanceoftheCommitteeregardingthisissueandinhisarticleAmjadalsofalselyascribes
thisviewtoIbnTaymiyyah.
LetustakealooktowhatAmjadistryingtohideforthereader:
Fatwa of the Permanent Committee clearly warning against Irj and clarifying the quotes of Shaykh alIslam
regardingthis.52
Fatwanumber21436,date8/4/142153
49
Yourview?TheLajnahclearlywarnedagainstthebooksoftheseindividualsanddescribedthesayingthatapersonwhoabandonsalltheactionsofthe
limbsremainsaMuslimasIrjaa.YoutrytoclaimthatalImaamIbnBaazseesthisasamatterofdifferenceofopinion,whiletheShaykhforbadeandwarned
againstthebooksofMuradShukriandAhmedazZahraneewhospreadthisclaimeddifferenceofopinion!Sowhydoyouhidethisfromthereadersandwhy
thistalbeesAmjad?
50
SoIbnBaaz,alFawzaan,alGhudayyaanandothersarewrong.WhydoyoutrytoletthereaderthinktheyagreewithyouthenAmjad?Whydoyouattackus
ifwefollowtheCommitteeinthesecases?
51
ThisiswhyAmjaddeletedthesepapers:HefullyrefersbacktoalHalabee,evenknowin2014,andwewillquotesomeextraproofsforthisinshaaÀllaah.
52
http://www.antiirja.net/play.php?catsmktba=46
53
Amjadandspubsalreadyknewthisfatwawhichexplainsthevisionofthelajnahregarding:
1.
Leavingoffallactionswiththelimbs;
2.
Theissueaboutactionsofthelimbsbeingshartkamaal
3.
IbnTaymiyyahstruestanceregardingthesematters
4.
Thewrongunderstandingofthephraselamyamalkhayranqat.
5.
Etc.
Thisiswhytheyauthoredthisarticleontheirwebsite:http://www.spubs.com/sps/downloads/pdf/MSC060016.pdf
Ourproofonpage1footnote1:
1ThisverdictbeingreferredtoisnottheoneconcerningthetwobooksofShaykhAleeHasanonTakfirbutanotherearlierverdictwhichwasgeneraland
spokeoftheunderstandingofImaanwiththeSalaf,fromthewordsofShaykhulIslaamIbnTaymiyyah,andthiswasfatwano.21436,dated8/4/1421H.
Wesay:In1422(13yearsago)AmjadandcoopposedtheCommitteeopenly.Nowin1435theyclaimthattheCommitteeagreeswiththem?Thisbyquoting
themselectivelyandhidingtheirclearspeechontheissue.ThedisasterforAmjadisthattheCommitteerefutedtheseabsurdclaimsofAmjadandtheyalso
gaveseveralmuhkamreferencestothekalaamofIbnTaymiyyahwhichclearlyrefuteAmjadsliesonIbnTaymiyyah.Aswewillshowwhencommentingupon
All praise belong to Allah alone and Salah and Salam on the one after whom there is no prophet
Asforwhatproceeds
TheLajnahadDaìmahliBuhuthilIlmiyyahwalIftaacametoknowwhathasbeensenttotheeminentMuftifrom
manypeoplerequestingabeneficialfatwatothegeneralsecretariatofHayatKibaaralUlemaanumber5411onthe
date7/11/1420,n1026onthe17/2/1421,n1016onthe7/2/1421,n1395onthe8/3/1421,n1650onthe17/3/1421,n
1893onthe25/3/1421,andn2106onthe7/4/1421.
ThesepeopleseekingFatwaaskedmanyquestionswhichtopicis:
It has appeared in recent times an ideology of Irja in a horrifying form, and many writers propagate it basing
themselves on cut off/truncated quotes (Nuqulat mabturah) from the speech of Shaykh ulIslam Ibn Taymiyyah,
whichcreatedalotofconfusionamongpeopleregardingthetermmn,asthepropagatorsofthisideologytriedto
expel action from the term mn, and they see the Najaat (savior from the eternal Hellfire) of the one who
abandons all actions. And this makes it easy for the people to enter evil matters, matters of Shirk and apostasy, as
theywillknowthattheirmniscorrecteveniftheydonotdoanyobligationsandavoidanyforbiddenmattersand
eveniftheydonotactaccordingtothelawsofthereligionbasedonthisschoolofthought.
AndthereisnodoubtthatsuchaschoolofthoughtcontainsadangerfortheIslamicsocietiesandforthemattersof
creedandworship.
We hope from his eminence an expose of the reality of this school of thought, its evil effects, and an expose of the
truthbasedontheKitaabandtheSunnah,andalsoaclarificationonthequotesofShaykhulIslamIbnTaymiyyah,so
thattheMuslimisonBaseerahinhisDeen.
MayAllahgiveyousuccessandguideyoursteps.WasSalaamualeykumwarRahmatullaahiwaBarakaatuh.
Afterstudyingthesequestions,theLajnahansweredasfollowing:
The quotes mentioned are from the sayings of the Murjiàh who expel actions from the term mn and they say:
mnistheTasdiqoftheheart,orTasdiqoftheheartandspeechofthetongueonly.Asfortheactions,theyarefor
themShartKaml(conditionofcompletion)only,andnotfromit.WhoeverhasTasdiqinhisheartandspeaksonhis
tongue, for them he is a Mu`min with complete mn, even if he leaves whatever obligations and does whatever
prohibited actions, he deserves paradise even if he did not do any good at all (wa law lam Yafal Khayran Qattu).
thisspecificfatwa!Wewillalsoquitefromthisabovelinkfromspubsbecausetherearecertainpointsofbenefit!Asafinalefforttocurethisindividual,wewill
quoteseparatemembersoftheLajnahregardingthisissue!
AndthismisguidanceresultsinmanyfalseimplicationsamongwhichreducingKufrtoKufrbiTakdheebwaIstihlaal
alQalbi(limitingdisbelieftodenialandmakingHalalintheheart).
Andthereisnodoubtthatthisspeechisfalse,aclearmisguidanceandisincontradictionwiththeQuràanandthe
SunnahandwhatAhlusSunnahwalJamahareupon,amongtheSalafandtheKhalaf.Andthisopensthedoorfor
peopleofevilandcorruption,tothedeclineinthereligionandlackofadherencetotheordersandtheprohibitions,
Khawf and Khashiyyah from Allh. And this cancels the aspect of Jihaad in Allhs way, ordering good and
forbiddingevil,andthisequatesbetweenthepiousandthepervert,theobedientandthesinner,theonewhostays
rightuponthereligionandtheonewhoexitstheordersofthereligionanditsprohibition,aslongastheseactionsdo
notdeprivethepersonfrommnastheysay.AndthisiswhytheImmsofIslam,inoldandrecenttimeshavetaken
caretorefutesuchadoctrineanditspeopleandtheyhavedevotedaspecificchapterforthistopicinthebooksof
creed,
rather
they
authored
separate
books
on
this,
as
did
Ibn
Taymiyyah
and
others.
ShaykhalIslaamsaidinalAqdahalWaasitiyyah:AmongthefundamentalsofAhlusSunnahwalJamahisthatthe
Deenandmnisspeechandaction:speechof theheartand tongueandactionoftheheart, tongueandlimbs,andthatmn
increaseswithobedienceanddecreaseswithdisobedience.
He said in Kitaab almn: And from the speech of the Salaf and Imms of the Salaf regarding the explanation of mn,
sometimes they say: speech and action, and sometimes they say: speech, action and intention, and sometimes they say:
speech, action, intention and following the Sunnah. And sometimes they say: speech of the tongue, belief of the heart and
actionsofthelimbsandallofthesearecorrect.
Andhesaid:TheoppositionoftheSalafintensifiedagainsttheMurjiàhwhentheyexpelledactionsfrommn,andthereisno
doubtthattheirsayingequatingthebeliefofthepeopleistheirmostevidenterror,ratherpeoplearenotequalinTasdiqorlove,
Khashiyyahandknowledge,ratherpeopleareindifferentlevelsfrommanyaspects.
Andhesaid:TheMurjiàhinthisfundamentalturnedawayfromtheBayaanoftheKitaabandtheSunnah,thespeechofthe
aaabah,andthosewhofollowedthemwithgood,andthey(Murjiàh)reliedontheiropinionandwhattheyinterpolatedfrom
theirunderstandingofthelanguage,andthisisthewayofthepeopleofinnovation.
Among the proofs that actions are part of the reality (Haqiqah) of mn, and that it increases and decreases, is His
speech:
Thebelieversareonlythosewho,whenAllhismentioned,feelafearIntheirheartsandwhenHisverses(thisQurn)are
reciteduntothem,they(i.e.theverses)increasetheirfaith;andtheyputtheirtrustIntheirLord(Alone);whoperformAsSalt
(IqmatasSalt)andspendoutofthatwehaveprovidedthem.Itistheywhoarethebelieversintruth.
(Anfal:24)
AndHisspeech:
Successfulindeedarethebelievers,thosewhooffertheirSalt(prayers)withallsolemnityandfullsubmissiveness,andthose
whoturnawayfromAlLaghw(dirty,false,evilvaintalk,falsehood,andallthatAllhhasforbidden),andthosewhopaythe
Zakt,andthosewhoguardtheirchastity(i.e.privateparts,fromillegalsexualacts)exceptfromtheirwivesor(thecaptivesand
slaves)thattheirRighthandspossess,forthen,theyarefreefromblame;butwhoeverseeksbeyondthat,thenthosearethe
transgressors;thosewhoarefaithfullytruetotheirAmant(allthedutieswhichAllhhasordained,honesty,moral
responsibilityandtrustsetc.)andtotheircovenants;andthosewhostrictlyguardtheir(fivecompulsorycongregational)Salawt
(prayers)(attheirfixedstatedhours).
(Muminun:19)
AndthespeechoftheMessengersallAllhualayhiwasallam:mnhasoverseventybranches,theuppermostofwhichis
thedeclaration:`NonehastherighttobeworshippedbutAllah;andtheleastofwhichistheremovalofharmfulobjectfromthe
road,andmodestyisabranchofIman
ShaykhalIslamrahimahullaahalsosaidinKitaabalmn:TheAsl(origin/basis)ofmnisintheheart,anditis
thespeechoftheheartanditsactions,anditisattestingwithTasdeeq,loveandsubmission.Andwhatisintheheart,itis
imperative that its requirements and necessities appear on the limbs, and when one does not act according to its
requirements and necessities, it indicates absence of it or weakness of it (meaning absence of mn in the heart or weak and
incorrectmnintheheart).ThisiswhytheapparentactionsareamongtherequirementsoftheEmanoftheheartand
itsnecessities,anditisaconfirmationofwhatisintheheart,aproofofit,awitnesstoit,anditisabranchofMutlaqmn
(absolutefaith)andapartofit.54
Andhealsosaid:WhoeverpondersonthespeechoftheKhawaarijandtheMurjiàhonthemeaningofmnwillnecessarily
knowthatitopposestheMessengersallAllhualayhiwasallamandhewillknownecessarilythatobediencetoAllhandHis
MessengersallAllhualayhiwasallamisfromTamaamalmn(correctnessofmn,Taamisalsousedforcorrectrather
thancomplete)andhewillnotdeclareeverysinnerwhosinstobeaKfir,andhewillknowthatifwesupposesomepeoplewould
cometotheProphetsallAllhualayhiwasallamandsay:webelieveinwhatyoucamewithinourheartswithoutanydoubt,
54
Amjadtriestousethisspeechin2014onpage21afterquotingthesamekalaamthat:
FromthisstatementofIbnTaymiyyah"thisindicatesitsabsenceoritsweakness",therearetwosituationsalludedto.Thefirstsituationisthatapersondoes
notbringanyexternalactionsbecauseheisdevoidofthetadqoractionsoftheheart(inqiyd)andisinrealityahypocrite,disbelieverwhoseapparententry
intoIslmisnotvalidbecauseeitherthetadqoftheheartoritsaction(inqiyandwhatfollowsit)isabsent.Thisincludesthepersonwhohastadqinhis
heart, knows and affirms that none has the right to be worshipped but Allh and that Muammad is His Messenger, but refuses to pray, fast, give zakh,
persistingintheirabandonment.Thisindicatestheabsenceoftheactionoftheheart(inqiy)eventhoughthetadqoftheheartispresentandindicatesa
typeofind(wilful,stubbornrefusal)whichiskufrinitself.
The second situation is an extremely sinful Muslim, whose mn is in fact present (tadq along with inqiy), his mn has manifested outwardly by his
affirmation(iqrr)throughtheshahdah,butthismnissoweakandsominisculethatasidefromtheshahdah,itdidnotpushhimtodoanyactionanddid
not prevent him from falling into sin, despite his ability to do action. So all he has is the shahdah. He did not fall into any act of shirk and kufr, but he
abandonedtheobligationsandfellintosin.Thispersonisanevilsinnerwithaweak,deficient,tinyamountofmnwhowillbesubjecttogreatpunishmentin
theHereafter.
ThiswhiletheLajnahquotesthesewordsofIbnTaymiyyahinrefutationoftheoneswhoclaimwhatAmjadclaims!SowhoisAmjadhisSalaf?Yes,Alial
Halabeeaswillfollowindetail!
andwesaywithourtonguesthetwotestimonies,butwewillnotfollowyouinanyofthemattersyouorderedorforbade,wewill
notpraynordoSiyaamnorHajj,wewillnotbelieveinadth,norgiveAmaanah,norfulfillpacts,norrespectkinshiprelations,
andwewillnotdoanyactionofgoodyouorderedandwewilldrinkwineanddoNikaahwithforbiddenwomenwithclearZina,
andwewillkillallofyourcompanionswedofindandpeopleofyourcommunity,andwewilltaketheirproperties,orwewillkill
you and fight you with your enemies, does any person of intelligence think that the Prophet (saw) will say to them you are a
believerwithcompletemn(Kamilalmn)andyouarepeopleofShafahonjudgmentdayanditishopedthatsomeof
you will enter paradise? Rather any Muslim knows necessarily that he would say to them: You are among the greatest
disbelieversinwhatIcamewith,andhewouldstriketheirneckiftheydonotrepentfromthis.
Andhealsosaid:ThewordmnwhenusedintheQuraaninabsolutemanner,itisintendedbyitwhatisintendedbythe
wordBirrandthewordTaqwaandbythewordDeenasithaspreceded,andtheProphetsallAllhualayhiwasallam
clarifiedthatmnhasoverseventybranches,theuppermostofwhichisthedeclaration:`Nonehastherighttobeworshippedbut
Allh;andtheleastofwhichistheremovalofaharmfulobjectfromtheroad,sowhateverisbelovedtoAllhentersinthetermof
mn, and likewise the term Birr, all of this is intended when it is used in an absolute manner, and likewise the term
Taqwa,andlikewiseDeenandIslam.AnditalsonarratedthattheyaskedaboutmnandAllhrevealedtheverse:
ItisnotalBirr(piety,righteousness,andeachandeveryactofobediencetoAllh,etc.)thatyouturnYourfaces
(AlBaqarah:177)
Uptohis(IbnTaymiyyah)saying:Theaimhereistoshowthatpraiseisnotestablishedexceptformnwithactions,notfor
mndeprivedofanyactions.
And this is the speech of Shaykh ulIslaam regarding mn, and whoever quotes something other than this is
lyingonhim.
As for the adth that some people will enter the paradise without doing any good at all (lam Yamaloo khayran
Qattu), it is not general for anyone who abandons all actions while he is capable of them, rather it is particular to
thosewhohaveanexcusethatpreventedthemfromactions,orbecauseofothermeaningsthatareinharmonywith
thecleartexts(anNususalMukamah)andwithwhattheSalafasliagreedbyconsensusinthischapter.
TheLajnahafterclarifyingthisforbidsandwarnsagainstcontroversyinthefundamentalsofthecreed,asitwilllead
togreatperils,anditrecommendstoreturninthistothebooksoftheSalafusliandtheImmsofthereligion,
basedontheKitaabandtheSunnahandsayingsoftheSalaf,anditwarnsagainstwhatcontradictsthisamongrecent
books of selflearned people, who did not take the knowledge from its people and its original sources. They have
rushedtheirspeechinthisgreatfundamentalamongthefundamentalsofthecreed,andadoptedtheMadhhabofthe
MurjiàhandattributeditunjustlytotheAhlusSunnahwalJamah,andtheydisguisedittothepeople,andthey
supported this by quoting with transgression from Shaykh ulIslaam and others from the Imms of the Salaf with
truncatedquotes,Mutashbih(ambiguous)sayingswithoutreturningtotheirMukam(clear)sayings,andweadvise
themtofearAllahinthemselves,toreturntotheirreason,andnottobreaktherankwiththismisguidedMadhhab.
The Lajnah also warns the Muslims against deceit and falling into groups that contradicts what the Jamah of
MuslimsAhlusSunnahareupon.55
MayAllahgrantallbeneficialknowledge,piousactionsandunderstandinginthereligion!MayAllahsendalhand
SalaamontheProphetsallAllhualayhiwasallamhishouseholdandcompanionsAjmaeen.
alLajnahadDaaìmahlilBuhuthilIlmiyyahwalIftaa
President:AbdulAzizibnAbdillahibnMuhammadAalShaykh
Member:liibnFawznalFawzn
Member:AbdullhibnAbdirRahmanAlGhudayan
Member:BakribnAbdillahAbuZayd.
Likeshownbefore,Amjadandconeverlikedthisfatwaandthisiswhytheyspreadthefollowingarticle13yearsagodated:
17thRamadaan1422H:
http://www.spubs.com/sps/downloads/pdf/MSC060016.pdf
Wewillnowprovidesomequotesfromthisarticleanddiscussthem(pleasenotethatnoattentionisgiventothefatwaof
theLajnahwequotedinfullwhichexplainsthisnewIrjaaindetail):
On page 1: And the brother, Ibraaheem, asked Shaykh Rab (may Allh preserve him) concerning his position towards the
verdict of the Permanent Committee which was connected to the refutation of the idea of Irj, and also his positiontowards
ShaykhAleealalab,sincesomeofthepeopleinterpretedthatverdicttobeinreferencetohim.
Page2:SotheShaykhmayAllhbringbenefitthroughhimsaidHehasnotleftthemanhajoftheSalafintheissueof
mn.Exceptin[theuseof]afewexpressionswhichhavebeenraisedagainsthimandtheyareveryeasy(sahlahjiddani.e.
verylight,simple)mayAllhblessyou!Hesaysmnisspeechandaction,anditincreasesanddecreases,andhewagesawar
againsttheMurjiah.AndtheobservationsbywhichhewascriticisedbytheScholars,thenhewillbeinmutualdiscussionand
understandingwiththem,anditwillend,ifAllhwills.Thosevilepartisans(alhizbiyyoonalkhubuthaa)inflamed,stirredthe
issueabouthim.
55
LikealHalabeeandAmjadandothers!WhydidAmjadtrytoclaimthattheLajnahagreedwithhisIrjaawhilethey:
1.
2.
3.
Theywarnedagainstbooksregardingtheseissues
ThemembersoftheCommitteealsospokeindividuallyaboutthisissueandrefutedAmjadsstance;
TheyhelpedanaidedbookswhichrefutedAmjadsclaimsandwhichallbringproofsthatIbnTaymiyyahmakestakfeeroftheonewholeavesall
actionsofthelimbs!
We say: According to the Lajnah alalab did. Also ashShaykh Rab now criticizes alalab regarding two books of his,
SayhatunNadhirandatTahdheerminFitnahatTakfr.56
Onpage2:SoashShaykhRabmayAllhpreservehimsaid,interjecting,Isaid,mayAllhblessyou,thattheHaiah
KibaaralUlamaaaffirmedtheaqeedah(inthatverdict),andIpresentedittoShaykhAleeandhesaid,Iaminagreementwith
it,soIsaid,Thereisnodifferencebetweenthem,andheagreedupontheAqeedahoftheMajorScholars.
Wesay:RatherthereisacleardifferenceasthefatwaoftheLajnahshowsthisexplicitlyandalalabopposesthis.
On page 2 and 3: The brother said, Hence, that which is being spread about you, that you supported the Permanent
Committee,initscriticismofthetwobooksofShaykhAleealalabisalie?
ShaykhRabsaidmayAllhpreservehimIsupportedthePermanentCommitteeinthatinwhichitaffirmedthemanhajof
theSalaf(i.e.inthefirstverdict,no.21346),andIpresentedthattoShaykhAleeandIsaidtohim,Doyouopposethis?andhe
said,No.However,thereweresomepointsthathewastoexplainfurther(concerningit),andperhapsitwasjustonepoint
whichhewastoclarifyfurtherwithevidences.SoheisinagreementwiththeaqeedahofAhlusSunnah,andinagreementwith
whatthePermanentCommitteehaswritten,andwhentheywereaskedcertainquestionsinwhichtherewastransgressionand
oppressioncomingfromthedirectionofthequestioners,thenitwasnotbindinguponthemthattheysay,Thisoneisaliar(i.e.
the questioner) and he is not truthful. Rather, the question came to them and they answered it, the questioner asked them to
affirmtheaqeedahoftheSalaf,andsotheyaffirmedtheaqeedahoftheSalaf.ThenIpresentedthistoBrotherAlee,whenheread
theselines,Isaid,Doyouopposethis?,hesaid,No,howeverIhavesomeobservationsconcerningit,soandsoissueand
thenheexplainsitwithevidences,soheexplainsitwithevidences,only,andsothewholematterends.
Andthebrother,Alee,affirmsthatmnisspeechandaction,itincreasesanddecreases.Hedoesnotopposeanythingfromthis,
andtheyknowthis,theyknowthatheisupontheaqeedahoftheSalaf.However,thepartisanswishtousecertainexpressions
whichcameimagined(bythem)andtheyareinshaaAllhfromthosethatthebrother,Aleedoesnotactuallybelieve,andnor
doeshedefendthem.
Wesay:AshShaykhRabhimselfacknowledgedthatthiswascorrect,forhesaid(morethan10yearslaterin2013!)57:
5)TheLajnahadDaaimahlilBoehoethwalIftaahavecondemnedAlialalabthathisbooksTahdheerminfitnahattakfierand
SayhatunNadheer:
1.
BothcalltotheMadhaabofalIrj;
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SayhatunNadheer,1ofbothbookswasreviewedbyashShaykhRabibeforeitsspreadingasalHalabeesaysonpage6:
http://ia600707.us.archive.org/4/items/rui23/rui23.pdf
Nowin2013ashShaykhRabicriticizedthisbookandfullyagreedwiththeLajnah?!Aswewillshowlateron,inshaaAllaah.
2.
ThatalalabbuildhiswritingsonthemadhabofalMurjiahalBidie,thefalseone,theoneswhorestrictalkufrtokufral
djuhoodandtakdheebandIstihlaalalqalbieandthisisinoppositiontowhichAhlusSunnahwalJamahareuponthatalkufr
canbeinbelief,speech,actionsanddoubt.
3.
HisdistortionsofthewordsoftheUlamaaandhisspeakingforthemlikeShaykhulIslaamIbnTaymiyyahandothersthanhim.
4.
Likewisethereisinbothbookstheplayingdown(ofthedanger)ofRulingbyotherthanAllhrevealedwiththeclaimthatthe
importanceinrealisingatTawheedinthisissuehasaremsemblancetotheShiaharRaafidhahandthisisagruesomemistake.
5.
After this the Lajnah adDaaimah said: after investigating the second book (Sayhat unNadheer) that it is the same as the
(previous)mentionedbook,anditsstateisasmentioned.
DuetothistheLajnahadDaaimahhastheviewthatthesetwobooks:Itisnotallowedtoprintthemortospreadthemortosellthem,for
whatisinitfromfalsehoodanddistortionandweadviseitswritertofearAllhforhimselfandtheMuslimsandspecificallytheyouth
fromthem.
And they advised alalab to strive in obtaining sharee knowledge by the hands of the Ulamaa who are trustworthy regarding their
knowledgeandtheirgoodItiqaadandthatknowledgeisintegrityanditisnotpermittedtospreaditexceptwhenitisconformtheKitaab
andtheSunnah.Andtogiveupsuchnewsandmiserablebehaviorintwistingthewordsofthescholarsanditisknownthatreturningto
whatisrightisavirtueandhonorforaMuslim.
SeefatwaaalLijnahadDaaimahnumber21517datedon1461421hidjrie.
AndhedidnotpayanyattentiontothiscritiqueandtheseadvisesfromtheLajnahadDaaimahlilBuhoothalIlmiyyahwalIftaaand
heconsideredhimselfanAaliemandheopenedaMerkeztoopposetheminreferenceandIftaa..
[EndofthewordsoftheShaykh.]
Wesay:Amjadwhydidyoudefendalalabingreatdetailregardingthesetwobooksinthealabpaperspart1,page3in
whichyousaid:58
AsforthosewhorejoicedmostwiththeverdictofPermanentCommittee,issuedrecently(14/6/1421H),thentheyweretheExtremist
Murjiah amongst the Qutubiyyah and other than them from the Khawarij of the Era those who defend the acts and statements of
apostasyemanatingfromtheirchiefandleader,hatingthatheistalkedabout,exposedandrefutedbecauseheismorebelovedtothem
thantheKaleemofAllh,Moosa(alaihissalaam)andmorebelovedtothemthanUthmaanbinAffaan(radiAllhuanhu)andmorebeloved
tothemthantheBanuUmayyahandmorebelovedtothemthantheAttributesofourMightyLordandmorebelovedtothemthanthe
Miracles of our Beloved Messenger (sallAllhu alaihi wasallam) for they arestirred with hatred and rage for his sake and make their
wrathdescenduponthosewhopromotetheverdictsoftheUlamaaconcerninghim,buttheyarenotstirredforhatredandenvyforthesake
oftheAttributesofourMightyLord,andnorforHisMessengers,andnorforthebestonesamongstthecreation.
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Andonpage17:
Inoursecondpaper,wewillprovidethedetailedreplytothePermanentCommitteewrittenbyShaikhAliHasanhimself.
Wesay: WespreadtherefutationsonQutbyears ago,likewedidonFli,andothers.Sono useinkeep tryingto establish

fictivelinkswiththeQutbiyyahandtheadddiyyah,whereastheconnectionwithyouandalalabisstillasclearasthesunon
midday.
AshShaykhRabnow,in2013,suddenlyrefersbacktotheLajnahonthetwobookswrittenbyalalabandspeaksharshly
aboutthesebooksandthepersonyoudefendedwithyourlifeandwhoyouarestillfollowingin2014!!Sowhynotattackyour
MurshidforreferringbacktothefatwaoftheCommitteeyoulabeledaserroneous?!
So why this hysterical manner of responding? We were right all those years and you defended alalab falsely because you
saidonpage4ofthealabpaperspart1:59
Andinordertoexplainthetruerealitiestothepeopleatlargethosewithnoabilitytoseparatebetweentheignorantpretenderandthe
genuineone,andbetweenthetruthandfalsehood,wepresenttoyousomethingthathadbeenwrittenfourmonthsagoinrefutationofthe
prattlingofAbuRuhayyimthevariouscriticismshemadeagainstShaikhAliHasan.Then,inoursecondpaperwewillprovideafull
translationofShaikhAliHasansresponsetothevariousclaimsmadeintheverdictofthePermanentCommitteesothattherejoicingof
theQutubiyyahandtheirbrethrenamongstthebiasedpartisansmaycometoanendbythepermissionofAllh.
SalafiPublications.Com20thSeptember2000
Wesay:SohereweseethelinkbetweenAlialalabandAmjadRafeeq.Theonlydifferenceisthatalalabneverwentthis
far! He spread a wrong stance and was refuted for it, but he did not label everyone who opposed his understanding to be
mubtadiah.
WewillendnowwiththelastquotationsfromthearticleinwhichAmjadopposedthePermanentCommitteeandhidesbehind
thewordsofashShaykhRab.
Onpage3:AndwhatiscorrectisthatIsaidtohim,ShaykhAleedoesnotdifferwiththeHaiahKibaaralUlamaa,andnor
does he speak with Irj. The Shaykh, Alee, he wages a war against Irj. The students of alAlbaani, all of them, they fight
againstIrj.TheMurjiahsay,Actionsarenotfrommn.Prayer,fasting,zakaah,Hajj,thattheyarenotfrommn!And
brotherAleesays,Actions,allofthemarefrommn,andmnincreasesanddecreases.
Wesay: AshShaykhRab here defended thestudentsofalAlbnfromJordan whilethe scholarshaveallrefutedthemon

theseissues.Then,likewestatedbefore,ashShaykhRabnow,in2013,suddenlyacknowledges(withoutclarifyinghischange
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ofopinion?)thatalalabspokewithIrj,refutingabookhehimselfhelpedworkingon, anddifferedwiththeUlamaaeven
thoughalalabholdsthat:Actions,allofthemarefrommn,andmnincreasesanddecreases?!
SothisisclearlyarefutationonAmjad,becauseheusesthesekindsofgeneralspeechtodeclaresomeonefreeofalIrj,thisin
opposition to ashShaykh Rab and the Lajnah! Is this strange? No, because Amjad only takes what suits his own
understanding!
BacktothearticleinwhichAmjadandSpubstrytodefendalalabin2002andreferringtoashShaykhRabi!
Onpage6AmjadandcoquotethetestimonyofAbuMuhammedalQaysee:ThenIhavenotceasedtorememberand
inmorethanone gatheringthedefenceofShaykhRabforhis brothersinJordan,andthattheyareSalafees,and
thattheyhavenoconnectionwithIrj,neitherthesmallpartofitnorthelargepartofit.Andwhensomepeoplesaid
tohim,Howevertheydonotmaketakfroftheonewhoabandonstheactionsofthelimbs,theShaykhexplainedthat
thisisthesayingofsomefromAhlusSunnah,andthenhementionedthewordsofIbnRajabalHanbali,andalsohisdealing
with the hadeethspertaining to Shafaaah (intercession), and that what is intended byhissaying (sallAllhu alaihi wasallam),
whohadneverdoneanygood,meaning,theactionsofthelimbs.
Wesay:AshShaykhRabnowin2013affirmsalalabhasIrjinsomeofhispreviousbooksandthathewasmistaken.What
ashShaykhRabsaidregardingIbnRajabalHanbaliisincorrect,ashisclaimthatthisistheacceptedsayingofsomefromAhl
asSunnah,aswewillprooft.WewillquoteIbnRajab,notourselveslikeAmjaddoes,butfromresourcestheUlamaapraised
whichprovethatthekalmofIbnRajabisagainsttheminreality!
So it should be very clear now to the sincere reader that Amjad is deliberately abusing the quoted fatwa of the Permanent
CommitteeinhislatestarticleThealab Papers 2.0,withittryingtosupporthisMadhhabofalIrj.
AmjadtryingtouseIbnalBannQforhisownobjectivesonpage17ofthealabPapers2.0:
IbnalBannalanbal( )(d.471H)said,Chapter:And[beliefin]theintercessionofourProphet( )forthepeopleofmajorsinsfrom

his ummah, in opposition to the Qadariyyah [Mutazilah] in their saying, There is no intercession for him. And whoever entered the
Hellfireforpunishmentwillexitfromitinourviewduetohis(theProphets)intercessionandtheintercessionofothersbesideshimand
also due to the mercy of Allh ( ), until there does not remain anyone in the Fire who said only once in the life of the world, L ilha
illallhoutofsincerity,andbelievedinit,evenifhedidnotperformtheactsofobedienceafterthat.
Wesay:HereAmjadistryingtouseIbnalBannforhisIrjcampaign,whereasthepositionofIbnalBannisveryclearinthe
samesource!!
SoIbnalBannsaysonpage307:
And it has three illustrations: What makes the person who abandons it kfir, and that is alMarifah and atTadq, and aalh
accordingtothemostauthenticofthetwonarrations,becauseAllhcalleditmn,Hesaid:
AndAllahwouldnevermakeyourfaith(prayers)tobelost
I.e.yourprayersofferedtowardsJerusalem.AndtheProphetsaid:
ThereisnothingbetweenalmnandalKufrexceptthePrayer,sowhosoeverleavesthePrayerhaddisbelieved
[EndquotationIbnalBannaa]
SoitbecomesapparentthatIbnalBannaacanneverbeusedtoaidtheopinionthattheonewholeavesoffallactionsofthelimbs
canstillbeamuslimsinceheholdstheopinionofthekufroftheonewhoabandondsthePrayer.Sowithhiswords,thatare
quotedbyAmjad(andashShaykhRabee),hecanneverintendwhatisbeingascribedtohimbyAmjad.
So in this new article of Amjad he is misusing words of many scholars, so whats the underlying reason why Amjad abuses
thesesources?:
WhenthedesireofspreadingIrjbecametoostrongandafterquotingIbnTaymiyyahmanytimes,butnothismukamkalm
withtheunderstandingoftheUlamaa,Amjaddoesagainwhathedoesbest:ExplainthewordsoftheUlamaaaccordingtohis
ownfalseunderstanding,hesaysonpage21ofhisrecentarticle:
From this statement of Ibn Taymiyyah this indicates its absence or its weakness, there are two situations alluded to. The first
situationisthatapersondoesnotbringanyexternalactionsbecauseheisdevoidofthetadqoractionsoftheheart(inqiyd)
and is in reality a hypocrite, disbeliever whose apparent entry into Islm is not valid because either the tadq of the heart or its action
(inqiyandwhatfollowsit)isabsent.Thisincludesthepersonwhohastadqinhisheart,knowsandaffirmsthatnonehastherighttobe
worshippedbutAllhandthatMuammadisHisMessenger,butrefusestopray,fast,givezakh,persistingintheirabandonment.This
indicatestheabsenceoftheactionoftheheart(inqiy)eventhoughthetadqoftheheartispresentandindicatesatypeofind(wilful,
stubbornrefusal)whichiskufrinitself.
The second situation is an extremely sinful Muslim, whose mn is in fact present (tadq along with inqiy), his mn has manifested
outwardlybyhisaffirmation(iqrr)throughtheshahdah,butthismnissoweakandsominisculethatasidefromtheshahdah,itdidnot
pushhimtodoanyactionanddidnotpreventhimfromfallingintosin,despitehisabilitytodoaction.Soallhehasistheshahdah.He
didnotfallintoanyactofshirkandkufr21,butheabandonedtheobligationsandfellintosin.Thispersonisanevilsinnerwithaweak,
deficient,tinyamountofmnwhowillbesubjecttogreatpunishmentintheHereafter.
ThisviewisfoundamongstafactionoftheScholarsofAhlalSunnah.Theyholdthatapersonwhopronouncedthetwoshahdahswiththe
beliefoftheheart,didnotpray,fastorperformothergooddeeds,thatheisasinner,deficientinhismn,thathedeservesseverepunishment
intheFire,butisnotadisbeliever.Thisdoesnotinvalidatetheprincipleoftheconnectionbetweentheinwardandtheoutward.
Wesay:WhoisAmjadsSalaf?DidanyoftheScholars,whoAmjadtriedtomisuse,saythis?ItwillbeclearthattherealSalafof
Amjadisstillalalab,andthenewstatementsofAmjadareexactlythesameashisoldstatementsinthealabPapers:
Amjadsaidonpage10:
ThisviewisfoundamongstafactionoftheScholarsofAhlalSunnah.Theyholdthatapersonwhopronouncedthetwoshahdahswiththe
beliefoftheheart,didnotpray,fastorperformothergooddeeds,thatheisasinner,deficientinhismn,thathedeservesseverepunishment
intheFire,butisnotadisbeliever.Thisdoesnotinvalidatetheprincipleoftheconnectionbetweentheinwardandtheoutward.Ifweare
abletoacceptthatwhoeverdoesnotmaketakfroftheonewhoabandonsprayerhasnotexpelledprayerfrommn,thenthe
samecanbesaidaboutotherbranchesofmnthatarelessthantheprayer.Whatitindicatesisthesevereweaknessofmn
(forthosewhodonotmaketakfr),oritsabsence(forthosewhodomaketakfr).
Wesay:Alalabalsousedthislineofdebating,sowhydidSpubsremovethealabpapersinthefirstplace?!Becausethey
areclearlystillonhisunderstandingofalmn.
Amjadquotedalalabonpage24and25:
SHAIKHALIHASANALHALABI
StatedShaikhAliHasan,Andtogivemoreclaritywesay:thebranchesofperfectmn(almnalKaamil)areseventyoddinnumber,
orsixtyoddinnumberasoccursintheauthentichadeeth.Andthisatthesametimeisthecorrect,validmn(almnasSaheeh).
However,whenthisperfectmnislackinganyofitsbranches,doesthisdeficiencyinthemhaveaneffectuponthecorrect,validmnand
render it a corrupt and false mn?! Or does the effect that results from this (deficiencey) fall upon the perfect mn such that it now
becomesdeficient(naaqis)?!
Andwhatarethebranchesofmn,fromthebranchesofperfectmn(almnasSaheeh),thenegationorabsenceofwhich
makesthiscorrect,validmn(almnasSaheeh_corrupt(andinvalid)?Isitthe73rdbranch?20Orthe64th?Orthe51st?The
49th?The30th?The25th?The17th?The6th?The5th,4th,or3rd?
ThereonlyremainsthetwobranchesofPrayerandtheKalimahofTawheed.Asforthefirst,thenthereisadifferenceofopinion
concerningitfromthefiqh(jurisprudence)pointofviewanditvariesbetweenwhatismoreorlesspreferable(rajihwamarjooh)and
whatiscorrectandinerror(sawaabwakhata).Therefore,nothingremainsexceptforthekalimahofTawheed(theShahadah)whichis
actually a point of unanimous agreement of the people of Knowledge from Ahl usSunnah absolutely, the one who abandons it is a
disbelieverandapostate,outsidethefoldofIslaam
Pleasecomparedearreader,betweenAmjadsexplanationandalalabs:
AmjadinThealab Papers 2.0 (2014):Ifweareabletoacceptthatwhoeverdoesnotmaketakfroftheonewhoabandonsprayerhas

not expelled prayer from mn, then the same can be said about other branches of mn that are less than the prayer. What it
indicatesisthesevereweaknessofmn(forthosewhodonotmaketakfr),oritsabsence(forthosewhodomaketakfr).
Alalabinthealabpaperspart2writtenbyAmjadinVersion1.0322ndSeptember2000:
ThereonlyremainsthetwobranchesofPrayerandtheKalimahofTawheed.Asforthefirst,thenthereisadifferenceofopinion
concerningitfromthefiqh(jurisprudence)pointofview21anditvariesbetweenwhatismoreorlesspreferable(rajihwamarjooh)and
whatiscorrectandinerror(sawaabwakhata).Therefore,nothingremainsexceptforthekalimahofTawheed(theShahadah)whichis
actually a point of unanimous agreement of the people of Knowledge from Ahl usSunnah absolutely, the one who abandons it is a
disbelieverandapostate,outsidethefoldofIslaam
NexttothatAmjadnowin2014triestoestablishafictivelinkbetweenus(andeveryonewhoopposeshim)andalawl.
Amjadin2000inthealabpapersinthefootnoteofthepreviousquotefromalalab:
StatedSafaralHawali,Andnoonesaysthattheonewhoabandonsit(theprayer)isnotakfirexceptonewhohas
beenaffectedbythe(thoughtof)alIrj,whetherherealisesitornot.!!(DhaahiratulIrj2/650/651)
AndthentherecometherowdyhooligansandignorantMuqallidahwhoclaimthatSafaralHawaaliscientificallyexposedthe
IrjpresentintheUmmah!!!
Amjadin2014infootnotenumber23ofthepreviousquoteofhisown(?!)words.
It is here wherein lies the greatest problem for theadddiyyah everything hinges around the alh, the prayer. In order to
buildtheiraccusationofIrjtheyhavetoinsistthatthepositionofnotmakingtakfroftheonewhoabandonsprayerisIrjand
that only the Murjiah hold this view or those affected by them. These people have known for a few decades that everything
revolvesaroundthisonecrucialissue.ThisiswhySafaralawlstatedAndnoonesaysthattheonewhoabandonsit(the
prayer)isnotakfirexceptonewhohasbeenaffectedbythe(thoughtof)alIrj,whetherherealisesitornot.!!(Dhhiratul
Irj2/650651).
Wesay:Amjadusesthisasscaretactics,tryingtoputfearintheheartsofhisfollowersinordertokeepthemawayfromthe
truth. So does the issue at hand only resolve around the issue of abandoning the prayer? Who said this from our Ulamaa
Amjad?TheyclarifiedthatleavingtheprayeraccordingtothemiskufrandtheyacceptedthatsomeoftheSalafhadtheother
opinionandtheydidnotaccusethemtobeMurjiàhbyhavingthisaccordingtothemincorrectopinion.
Butwhenitcomestotheissueofleavingofallactionsofthelimbs,nooneofthemajorscholarssaidthatthereisadifferenceof
opinioninthisissuewithinAhlasSunnah!!Rather,theyunanimouslystatedthatitskufrandtheyexplainthatthereisanIjm
onthisissue!ThisiswhytheyspecificallyrefutedtheoneswhoclaimthatleavingofallactionsoflimbsisstillaMuslim!And
theyclearlymadeadifferencebetweenthetwoissues!
WhileAmjadandhisSalafalalab,comeupwithaqiysfsid(falseanalogy)betweenleavingoneactionofthelimbs(i.e.the
prayer)andbetweenleavingallactionsofthelimbsintotality!
Sothesincerereadershouldaskhimself:
Who is the Salaf of Amjad for his erroneous analogy? And why does he tamper with the understanding of Ibn alBann al
anbal,IbnBz,thePermanentCommittee,andIbnRajab,inordertotrytoprovetheyacceptedthisfalsepointofviewwhich
opposestheIjm?
WhydoeshehuntdownallthekalmthatismutashbihfromIbnTaymiyyahandIbnRajabtoproofthattheyholdtheopinion
thatsomeonewithoutanyactionsofthelimbscanbeabeliever?Whilebothmaketakfrontheonewholeavestheprayer?
WhydoesheopposealltheUlamaawhoaidedthebooksauthoredonthisissueandextensivelyquotemanysayingsofboth
Imms,andImmIbnBz,whichallclearlyshowstheirstancethattheonewhodoesnoactionswiththelimbsisakfirby
Ijm?
WhydidhetrytorefutethefatwofthePermanentCommitteebyusingtheunderstandingofalalabin2000,andnowin
2014withoutshameselectivelyquotesthesamePermanentCommitteeinordertoaidhisMadhhabofalIrj?
ThesincerereadercanclearlyseethatAmjadtriestospreadtheMadhhaboftheNeoMurjiahintheWestbyfollowingtheone
(alalab)whotriedtospreaditintheKingdomofSaudi.
Youwerespreadinganddefendinghiseverymoveandnowin2014youresorttosomerecentarticleswrittenbyashShaykh
Rab,againblindlyfollowinghimandusinghimasashieldtospreadyourIrj.
Butyourblindfollowing,asalways,isveryselective,becauseyoudontreturnbacktohismostrecentwordsonalalabstwo
booksin2013.AndnottohiscriticismonImmalAlbninthepastregardingthewordingshartkamletc.
ButmaybethisisbecausespreadingthiskindofspeechfromtheirMurshidwilldamagetheirMadhhabofalIrj,andwillalso
raisemanyquestionsastowhydoesashShaykhRabsuddenlyaffirmthecriticismsoftheCommitteeonalalabwhileat
firstherejecteditindefenseofalalabandhelpedhimwithonofthesebooks?Sothiskindofinformationcouldjeopardize
thepositionoftheMurshidandthusincompliancewiththehizbsprincipleTheMurshidshouldbeprotectedatalltimesSpubs
choosestoturnablindeyetothesekindofproblematicstatementsinordertosafeguardtheMurshidfromanyharm.
AmjadandalfidhIbnRajabalanbalonpage34ofthealabPapers2.0::
ThenafactionoftheScholarsofAhlasSunnahonthebasisofthisadthandothershaveaffirmedthatapeoplewillleavetheFire
whodidnotdoanygood,afterbeingpunishedseverelyfortheirsinsanddisobedience,andjustbywayofexample,thestatementofIbn
Rajabalanbal,AndthisindicatesthatthosewhomAllhwillremove(fromtheFire)byHismercy,withouttheintercessionofany
createdbeing,arethepeopleofthestatementofTawdwhodidnotdoanygoodwhatsoeverwiththeirlimbs.FatalBrofIbnRajab
(1/285)andrefertoalTakhweefminalNr(p.187).
Wesay:IfAmjadhadreturnedtotheUlamaatocheckhiscomprehensionoftheissue,itwouldhavebeenbetter.
SoletussticktothescholarsandreturntothemforunderstandingtheMadhhabofalImmIbnRajabQ
AshShaykhAliasShibal9 haswrittenabooktitled:ThemethodologyofalfidhIbnRajabinAqdah.
AlAllmahalFawzn9 wroteanintroductionforthisbook.
Onpage387thefollowingcanberead:
FromtheNawaaqid(Nullifiers)ofatTawheed;tarkasalh(leavingtheprayer):
ThisissuehasbeenmentionedbyalfidhIbnRajabinhisexplanationoftheadthofAbdullhbinUmar,radiAllhu
anhuabouttheArkaanalIslaam,sohesaid:Andtheestablishmentoftheprayer,manyaadthhavebeentransmittedwhichproof
thattheonewholeavesit,expelsfromtheIslaam,andinSaheehMuslimonauthorityofDjaabir,radiyaAllhuanhu,onauthorityofthe
PhrophetsallAllhualayhiwasallamhesaid:Betweenamanandbetweenkufrandshirkisleavingtheprayer,andthesameasthis
hasbeentransmittedinthehadeethfromBuraydaandThawbaanandAnasandothersthanthem60,61
60
JaamiUloomwalHikam,explanationonthe3rdhadeeth,page.4243.
Ibn Rajab repeats this vision on other places as the author of the book AlImaam Inda asSalaf and its connection to actions and the unveiling of the
ShubuhaatoftheMuasirienpointsoutinVolume2,page371377.
Thisbook,whichhasanintroductionbythelateAllamaahAbdollaahalAqiel,Rahiemmahoellaah,canbedownloadedinpdfhere:
Involume2theauthorquotesmanyIbnRajabseveraltimes:
1.
JaamialUloomwalHikamexplanationonthe3rdhadeeth,page.44.
2.
FathalBaarie(5/50,52).
TheauthormentionssomespeechonwhichisdependbypeopleintheissueofleavingactionswiththelimbsandtheyusethisasasshubhalikeAmjaddoes
andrefutesit!
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EndofthewordsofalfidhQ
IbnRajabalanbal,mayAllhhavemercyonhim,said:
Mostofthescholarssaidthatit(mn)isstatementandaction,andallofthisisIjm(consensus)fromtheSalaf,the
scholars of Ahl uladth. AshShfi has mentioned the Ijm of the abah and the Tbin on it and Aboo Thawr
mentionedtheIjmtoo.
AlAwzaaee said: Those who have passed away from the Salaf did not differentiate between mn and action.
MorethanonefromtheSalafoftheUlamafromAhlusSunnahwalJamahmentionedit.Fromthosewhomentionedit
fromtheAhlusSunnahwerealFuaylibnIydandWakbinalJarr.Fromthosewhomitwasnarratedthatmn
isstatementandactionarealassan,SadibnJubayr,UmarbinAbdilAzz,Ataa,Taws,Mujhid,AshShabee,
anNakh and azZuhr. It is the statement of athThawr, alAwz, Ibn ulMubrak, Mlik, AshShfi, Amad,
Isq,AbUbayd,AbThawr,andothers(FatulBr5/1).62
AlfidhIbnRajabwasalsoquotedseveraltimesinthebooklet:AqwlDhawlArfn..whichwaswrittenby
ashShaykhasSinniewithcommentsbyalImmalFawzn.63,64
WewillquotesomeofthesecleartextsandleaveituptoAmjadtothinkandponder!PleasedontabusethisImmAmjad.
Onpage45ashShaykhIsm quotesthe6thintroduction:whatisestablishedwiththescholarsofAhlasSunnah,isthetakfr
upontheonewholeavesactionsofthelimbs,whichAllhhasorderedinhisBookorhisMessengerinhisSunnah,kuliyyan(intotality),
especiallytheFarid,likeitisestablishedinthebooksofthepeopleofknowledge,theymentionedthisfrom3angles:
Thefirstangle:SomeoftheImmsoftheSunnahuponwhoserulingisreliedgavetextsofthekufroftheonewholeavesthefarid.Andthe
statementof(affirming)mnfortheonewholeavesit,ifheacknowledgesitsobligation,thatthisisthesayingoftheMurjiah.
AlfidhIbnRajabQsaidin(FatalBr1/21)whenhementionedthetakfroftheonewholeavesthealh:IsqibnRahya
hastransmittedanIjmfromthem,sofarthathetookthesayingoftheonewhosays:Onedoesntbecomeadisbelieverby
leavingtheseArkn(alIslm),thatitisfromthesayingsoftheMurjiah.
WhatwillAmjadsay?AnIjmthatheopposesandalsothelinktoalIrjfortheonewholeavestheArkn?Thisisevenless
evilthanleavingallactions!
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TakenfrombrotherAhmed:http://aloloomenglish.net/vb/showthread.php?562IjmaaoftheSalafthatthereisnoEemanwithoutAction
Thebookcanbereadhere:http://antiirja.net/play.php?catsmktba=24
Amjadmentionsthisresourceonpage41andsaid:
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64
Amjad: Mentioned by Im alSinn in Aqwl Dhaw alUrfn and cited by Shaykh Rab in Ittif Ahl alidq walUrfn (pp. 186187). We think either
AmjaddoesntunderstandthemanhajofIbnRajaborhe,likehehasdonemanytimesnow,deliberatelyhidesitforthereaders!
AsShaykhIsmquotesonpage46:
IshaaqbinRahya Qandrefersagainto (FatalBr1/21):TheMurjiahfellinextremism,sofarthat oftheir

sayingsbecame:Thatpeoplesay:WhoeverleavestheprescribedprayersandthefastingofarRamadaan,andazZakaatandal
HajjandthegeneralFaraaidwithoutdenyingitsobligation,wedontdeclarethisoneanunbeliever,weleavehiscasetoAllh
forlater,becauseheacknowledges(itsobligation),theseonesaretheoneswehavenodoubtin,yanie,thattheyareMurjiah.
IbnRajabsaid:Whatisapparentisthathemakestakfrofleavingthesefarid.
ThisisthedifferencebetweenreturningtothesemiintellectualfraudAmjadandreturningbacktothescholarsandknowledge
basedinvestigation.BecausehowinAllhsNamewasAmjadabletosaywhathesaidaboutIbnRajab?
AshShaykhIsmquotesonfootnote27onpage71:
Andthisisabeautifulpoint(ofbenefit)mentionedbyIbnRajabin(JmialUlmwalikam1/91)whenhe
said:AmedandIsqbroughtproofsforthekufroftheonewhoabandonsthealhwiththeKufrofIblswith
leavingofthesujd(prosternation)fordam,andleavingthesujdforAllhisworse.
AshShaykhIsmquotesonpage36:
Ibn Rajab Q said in his book (Fat alBr 1/113114): A Taaifa (group) of the Murjiah said: Almn is qawl
(speech)andamal(actions),inagreementwithAhlasSunnahthantheyexplainedalamal(actions)withalqawl(speech)and
theysay:Itstheamal(actions)oftheLisn(tongue).
Thisnaql(text)destroysthedoubtthatactionswiththelimbscanbereplacedbyactionswiththetongue!
WasAmjadreturningtothescholarswhenusingIbnRajabforhiswhimsanddesires?Wereturnbacktothescholarsandtothe
workstheypraised,whereasAmjadhasahabitofreturningtoworksofrefutedpeopleorhisownunderstanding.
AmjadandMuammedibnNaralMarwazionpage18ofthealabPapers2.0:
MuammadbinNaralMarwazsaid:Wehavequotedthestatementofthosewhodeclaretheonewhoabandonsprayerdeliberatelyto
beadisbelieverandwehavecitedthesumofwhattheyhaveusedasproof,andthisisthemadhhabofthemajorityofAhlaladth.But
another group has opposed them from the Ab aladth, and they refused to make takfr of the one who abandons prayer unless he
abandoneditwhilstrejecting(itsobligation),arrogantrefusal,belittlement,andstubborn,wilfulrejection.Onlythenistakfrmadeofhim.
And some of them said that abandoning prayer is like the abandonment of all the other obligations (fari), such as zakh, fasting in
Ramanandajj.Andtheysaid:Thenarrationswhichhavecomeregardingthenegationoffaith(ikfr)throughabandonmentofprayer
arelikethenarrationswhichnegatefaiththroughallthe(various)sins.
Wesay:AshShaykhalMarwazideclarestheonewholeavestheprayertobeakfir,sohiswordscanneverbeunderstoodthe
wayAmjadtriestodisplaythem.
MuhammedibnNasralMarwazisaid:AndwementionedinthisbookofourswheretheBookofAllhuatTaaalaandtheSunnahof
HisMessengerpointtofromthemagnificationofthepositionofasalh,andthefulfillmentofthepromisewiththerewardfortheonewho
performs it, and magnification of the threat upon the one who neglects it. And difference between it and between all the other actions in
excellence,anditsgreatposition.ThenwementionedtherelatedreportsonauthorityoftheProphetaboutdeclaringtheonewholeavesit
tobekfir,andhisremoventfromthemillah(religion)andthepermissibilityinkillingtheonewhorefusestoperformit.Thenthe
sameasthatcametousonauthorityoftheSahabah,andnothingdifferencetothatcametousfromthem.65
Secondly: This Imm spoke about the farid, not about leaving all actions with the limbs. So this again shows the Irj
understandingofAmjad,andhisabuseofthekalmofAhlalIlmtosupporttheMadhhaboftheMurjiàh.
AmjadandashShaykhSlialFawznonpage19ofThealabPapers2.0
Shaykh li alFawzn was asked, Is the one who does not declare the abandoner of prayer to be a disbeliever from the
Murjiah?towhichhereplied,Yes,hehasatypeofIrj,thisisatypeofIrjifhebelievesthatactionisnotfrommn,andfrom(this
action)istheprayer,thenyes,thisoneisaMurji.Butasforwhenhebelievesthatactionisfrommnbuthesaidtheonewhoabandons
prayerdoesnotdisbelieve,justlikealltheotheractions(theabandonmentofwhich)causesmntodecrease,thenthisonehastakenthe
statement(position)ofsomeoftheScholars.Andtheyhavedoubts,theyhavedoubts(fortheirposition),theyarenotconsideredMurjiah.
Ifhedependsuponasaying(ofscholars)andupondoubtsheusesasevidence,itisnotsaidthatheisaMurji.Itissaidthatheiserrant,
itissaidthatheiserrant,yes.
Wesay:Thisisabouttheprayerspecifically.WhatdoesashShaykhalFawznsayabouttheonewholeavesallactionsofthe
limbs?AboutbookswhohavebeenauthoredonthisissuetodefendthisfalseAqdah?Didhenothelpwriterswhorefutedthis
pointofview?DidhenotaidtheIjmthattheonewholeavesallactionsisakfirandthattheonewhoopposesthishasIrj?
DidhenotwarnagainstthisopinionwithintheLajnahandpersonally?Amjadisshamelesslyplayingwiththewordsofthe
scholars, and to even try (mis)using ashShaykh alFawzn for these kind of issues is pure foolishness, and shows the great
despairheisin.
AmjadalsoquotesIbnBzagainbutwehavealreadyansweredthisshubhah(misconception)fromAmjad,andwedisplayed
the position of Ibn Bz based upon many of his mukam statements. But just to show the readers once again that Amjad is
playingscramblewiththespeechofthescholarswewillplaceonequoteofIbnBzfromthesamesourceasAmjad,onlyafew
pagesfurther.
65
TadhiemQadrasSalah2/925.
SoAmjadquotesinhisarticleonpage20:
InhiscommentaryontheremarkofIbnAbalIzzs(inhisexplanationofalawscreed),
And they are in agreement that if he believed with his heart, affirmed with his tongue but withheld from acting with his limbs, he is
disobedienttoAllhandHisMessenger,deserveingofpunishment,
ImmIbnBz( )said,Ifthisagreement(consensus)isauthenticfromtheMurjiah,thenwhattheexplainer(IbnAbalIzz)hasstated,
in that the difference between Ahl alSunnah and the Murjiah is only a matter of wording, it would be close (to the truth), if they (the
Murjiah)wereinagreementthatwhoeverbelievedwithhisheart,andassentedwithhistonguebutdidnotcomplyinhisaction,hedidnot
prayorfast,thatheisdeservingofpunishmentorentryintotheHellfire,thenthisisthesayingofAhlalSunnah.However,wethenread
theirstatementthatheisaperfectinfaith(kmilalmn),duetothefaithofhisheartandtongue(alone).Whenhesays(aboutsuchaone)
thatheisperfectinfaith,howcanthisbeaconsensus?!Whenheisperfectinfaith,howcanhebesubjecttoathreat(ofpunishment)So
citingaconsensusalongsidethestatementoftheMurjiahthatactionsarenotfrommnrequiressomeinspection.
TheShaykhwasthenasked,Theonewhobelieveswithhisheartandtongueanddoesnotactwithhislimbs?towhichheresponded,
This is a point of difference between the Scholars. Whoever said abandonment of prayer is (major) disbelief says that he will remain
eternallyintheFire.Andwhoeversaiditisminordisbelief,thenhisrulingistherulinguponallofthemajorsins,heisunderthewill(of
Allh).
[AlTalqtalBziyyahalSharalawiyyah(DrIbnalAthr,2/751752)]
HereAmjadisagaintryingtousethisspeechofIbnBztoaidhisIrjunderstanding,tryingtoproofwithitthatIbnBzviews
theopinionthattheonewholeavesallactionsofthelimbsasapointofdifferencebetweenthescholars.Whereasitisclearthat
IbnBzdidnotunderstandthequestionlikethat,thisisapparentintheanswerhegives,andisapparentwhenonelooksatthe
majorityofthestatementsofIbnBz,asprecededinthisarticle.
Nowtomakethispointevenmoreclear,letuslookatsomeofthewordsofIbnBzfromthesamesourceAmjadis(mis)using,
onlyafewpagesfurtherandstillonthesametopicofalmn!!
AlImmIbnBzsaysonpage764:
...theMusaddiqbilQalb(theonewhoaffirmswithhisheart),histasdiq(affirmation)doesnotbenefithimifhedoesnotaffirmsitwith
thetongue,anddoesnotaffirmitwithalamal,soifhewouldaffirmwithisheartthatthisinformationisreal,butthenhesayswithhis
tongue:No,itisnotreal,thisorthatpersonisalyer,thenthistasdiqdidnotbenefit,andheisnotcalledMusaddiqandnotMoe`min.So
itisnecessarythatmnalQalbisfollowedupwithsomething,thesameifheaffirmswithhisheartandtongue,andthenheholdsbackon
therequiredactions,thatarerequiredfromthisatTasdiq(affirmation),heaffirmswithhistongueandhisheartthathisFaterhasrights
upon him, and that its obligatory to treat him right, but he doesnt do right with him, and doesnt do good for him, you see him (i.e.
Fater)poor,sick,andhedoesntcareabouthim.CanthispersonbecalledaMusaddiq(affirmer)thatalBirr(goodness)isaqq!!...
SohereIbnBzexplainsquiteexplicitlythatthereisnorealaffirmationwiththetongueandtheheartifthereisnoactionofthe
limbsthataffirmstheaffirmationwiththetongueandtheheart.AndthequotationsofIbnBzthathaveprecededinthisarticle
shineevenmorelightonthisissueandthepositionofIbnBzaboutit.
AmjadandashShaykhAbdalLaflalShaykhonpage19ofthealabPapers2.0:
ShaykhAbdalLafbinAbdalRamnbin asanl alShaykh( )said,Thethirdfoundation:Thatmniscomposedof(both)

speechandaction.Speechisoftwotypes,thespeechoftheheart,whichisitsbelief,andspeechofthetongue,whichistospeakwiththe
word of Islm [the kalimah]. And action is of two types, the action of the heart, which is its intent (qad), choice (ikhtiyr), love
(maabbah),pleasure(ri)anditsassent(tadq).And(thesecondtype),theactionsofthelimbssuchasprayer,zakh,ajj,jihdand
what is like them from the outward actions. Now when the tadq (assent) of the heart ceases, and its pleasure, love for Allh, its
truthfulness,thenmninitsentirety,ceases(toexist).Andwhenanyoftheactionscease,suchasprayer,ajj,jihd,whilstthe
assent(tadq)andacceptance(qbl)oftheheartremains,thenthisisapointofdifference.Doesmnceaseinitsentirey
whenheleavesanyoftheIslmicpillarssuchasprayer,jj,zakhandfasting?Ordoesitnotcease?Anddoestheonewho
abandonsitornot?Andisitdistinguishedbetweenprayerandotherthanitornot?AhlalSunnahareagreedthattheremustbe
actionoftheheartwhichisitslove,pleasure,compliance(inqiy)andtheMurjiahsayassent(tadq)issufficientalone,andthrough
thathebecomesabeliever.But[afterweentertheactionsoftheheartintomn]thedifferenceovertheactionsofthelimbs,doeshebecome
adisbelieverornot(throughtheirabandonment)ispresentbetweenAhlalSunnah.ThatwhichisknownfromtheSalafistakfroftheone
whoabandonedanyoneoftheIslmicpillarssuchas prayer,zakh,fastingandajj.Andthesecondsayingisthatno onedisbelieves
excepttheonewhorejects[theirobligation].
AshShaykhAbdalLatiefQclearlyspeaksaboutthefaridandpillars.Notaboutleavingallactionsintotality.
InalmnindaasSalafthisShaykhisalsoquotedwithmukamkalmonpage363ofvolume1:
AshShaykhAbdalLatiefQdefendedalMujaddidMuammedbinAbdalWahhbsQsayingsinthebookKashf
ashShubuht:
AndthisissomethingaboutwhichthereisIjmbetweentheAhlalIlm,soifoneofthesethreeismissing,thentheIslaamgoes
awayandbecomesnullified..
TheShaykhthenmentionsalIslmandalmnandalIsnandsays:
SohebegunwiththetarfofalIslmwiththetwotestimoniesoffaith,andwithoutadoubtalilmandalqawlandalamalare
setasaconditiontothecorrectnessoftherealizationofthemboth
Andonpage46involume2:
AsforhimmakingourShaykhfromtheoneswhomaketheIslamicShari(pillars)aconditionforenteringintoit,thanthisisfalse.He
merelymadethefundamentalsandsimilartoitaconditionforthecorrectnessofalIslm,notfortheentryintoit.
Amjadthensaysonpage39:
TheajwirahAreanEvilPeopleWhoLackPrinciplesandTheyAreDrivenNotbytheUloftheSalafManhajButbyRevenge
fortheSakeofYayalajr
Finally,theajwirahwhoaredisplayingthesecharacteristicsareverydishonestandevilpeople.Theonlyreasontheyarenowspreading
theseshubuht(doubts)isbecauseShaykhRabdisparagedtheirleaderinadddiyyah,Yayalajr.Theywerenotspreadingthese
doubtsuntilthepasttwomonthsorso.Beforethis,ShaykhRabwasrefutingthelikesofMamudaladdd,Flialarb,Fawzal
Barainandothersontheseissuesformanyyearsandthey(theajwirah)knewnothingofthesematters.However,becausethese
adddiyyah(whoarecarryingthesameflagasSafaralawlfromtwentyyearsago)arenowtryingtocausetribulationsbygetting
somespeechfromtheMuft,AbdalAzzlalShaykhandShaykhlialFawznagainstShaykhRab,usingdeceptionandgreat
conniving,outoftheevilnessoftheirhearts,theajwirahhaveseenthistobeofbenefittothemselvesintheirhatredtowardsShaykh
Rabandtheyarehappytodrinkthebiloftheadddiyyahintotheirhearts,inordertoseekrevengeforthesakeofalajragainst
ShaykhRab,theScholarsofAhlalSunnahandwhoeveriswiththemfromthestudentsofknowledgeinEurope,theUS,theGulf
countries,theFarEastandotherplaces.MayAllah,theMostHigh,protectAhlalSunnahfromtheevilofallthesefactionsof
adddiyyah,inallplaces,mn.
Wesay:Wewerespreadingthemistakesofalalabinalmnforyears.ThatAmjadjustkeepsonslanderingpeopleandeven
darestospeakaboutprinciplesisreallyquiteshameless.AllAmjadhasbeendoinginthisarticle,andforthepastdecade,is
huntingdownthemutashbihspeechoftheScholarsinordertotwisttheirwordsandunderstanding,aswehaveextensively
showedinthisarticle.
So Amjad is trying to defend his Murshid by every means possible, but the sincere reader should ask his self the following
questions:WasashShaykhRabinthepastattackingtheatharofIbnShaqq?TheIjmrelatedbyalImmashShfi?Ifthese
questionsaresincerelyansweredwithoutbias,thenthereasonbehindsomerecentcriticismsagainstashShaykhRabcanbe
understood,andthefictivelinkAmjadkeepstryingtoestablishwillbeclear.
AsforAmjadslanderingusthatwehateashShaykhRabshowshisfilthyvilemanners.Webenefittedtremendouslyfromthe
ShaykhbutwetreathimthesameasourotherScholars.AmjadhimselftriedtorefutetheLajnahinthepast,asshowninthis
article,butwhenotherscriticizescholarswithargumentsandproofs,theyaresuddenlyadddis?AndheisarealSalafiwho
cangivefatwaandanswerquestionsbyormakingextremetaqlidandbyhidinghislinktoalHalabi?
AnsweringAmjadsdoublestandardsregardingthetermJinsalAmal.
Hesaidonpage40:
TheUseofInnovatedTermsintheDefinitionofmnSuchasJinsalAmal.
AndquotesashShaykhRabandIbnUthayminQonpages41and42:
ShaykhRabsaid,Iseethatoneshouldkeepawayfromthewordjinsduetowhatitcontainsofgeneralityandambiguityandbecause
thepeopleoftribulationsclingtoitandbecausethiswordisnotfoundintheBook,noraSunnah,nordidtheSalafuseitinthedefinition
ofmn.RefertoIttiafAhlalidqwalUrfn,(p.249).
ShaykhIbnalUthaymnwasasked,Whatisyourviewpointconcerningtheonewhosays,Theonewhoabandonsthegenusofaction
(jinsulamal)isakfir,andtheonewholeavesactionssolitarily(dalamal)isnotakfir?TheShaykhreplied,Whospokeofthis
principle?Whosaidit?!DidMuhammadtheMessengerofAllhsayit?!Thesewordshavenomeaningtothem.Wesay,whoeverAllh
andHisMessengerhavedeclaredadisbelieverthenheisadisbeliever.AndwhoeverAllhandHisMessengerdonotdeclareadisbeliever
isnotadisbeliever.Thisiswhatiscorrect.Asforjinsulamalanddulamalthenallofthisisbutnonsense(clangor)andinwhich
thereisnobenefit.Cassette:QuestionFromQatarontheAccusationofIrjAgainstalAlbn(30thApril2000).66
Wesay:ManyScholarsofAhlasSunnahhaveusedthetermjinsalamalnumeroustimes.Like:AshShaykhalFawzn67,Ash
ShaykhZaydalMadkhali68,AshShaykhliAalashShaykh69,AshShaykhalRji70,AlImmIbnBz71andothers.
Allofthesescholarsusedthistermregardingthenewlyinventednotionthat:Onewholeavesofallactionsofthelimbscanstillbe
aMuslimlikeAmjadisspreadingfrom2000untilknow!
AmjadsaidinhisarticleReadingsinadvancedQutubismpage6,thattheQutbiyyeen:
4)PromotetheissueofJinsulAmal,meaningtopromotethattheonewhohasthebasis,asl,ofmn(intheheartandonthetongue)
but has no good deed, or does not act, that such a one is a kfir by Ijm. They portray it as an Ijm so they can then build their
accusationofIrjaroundit.
66
AsShaykhasSinaaniequotedthisfatwainhisbookAqwaalDhawiilArfaanpage67underfootnote18andexplainedthatthisanswerofImaamal
UthaymindoesntimplythatIfyouhavelimitedalkufrtotrikasSalhwithoutjinsalamal,andknowthatsomeoftheSalafdidntperformtakfeeronthe
onewholeavesthesalaah,thentheonewholeavestheactionsofthelimbsisalsonotakfirwithhim,soitiscorrectthattheissueofthekufroftheonewho
leavestheactionswiththelimbsisalsoanissueofdifferenceofopinionwiththeSalaf.AndtheShaykhdoesnotsaythis!!
67
http://antiirja.net/sound/radshobah/001.mp3
68
http://antiirja.net/sound/fatwa/zaidtarekamal.mp3
69
http://antiirja.net/sound/fatwa/45.mp3
70
http://sites.google.com/site/tahmilatt/home/rajhiradjinsamal.mp3
71
TheBookofasShaykhasSinaaniewhichhasproceeded!
Wesay:WehaveshowninthisarticlethatthisIjmhasbeenreportedbymanyscholarsfromtheSalaf,andthescholarsafter
themsupportit,soAmjadslandersthescholarsinthisquotethattheyareQutbiyyeenandusethistobuildtheiraccusationof
Irjaroundit.
Hethenwentontosayonpage6:
Inthistheydeceivetheirpreyandtheunsuspectingignorantonesbylikeningtwomattersandtreatingthemtobetheoneandthe
same:a)thesayingoftheMurjiahwhichisthatthatactionsarenotfrommnabsolutely,andthatapersonmaysimplyhaveknowledge
inhisheartalone,ortasdeeqinhisheartalone,ortheshahaadahuponhistonguealone,ortasdeeqandtheshahaadah,andwithmerely
thisalone,heisaBeliever,perfectinhismn,hismnbeinglikethatofJibreelandMikaaeel,untilifheevencommitsacts
ofkufr,thenheisstillaBelieverperfectinhisfaithandb)thesayingofmanyfromAhlusSunnahthattheonewhohastheasl,root,
ofmnanddieswithnogooddeeds(outofneglect,andlaziness,sinanddisobedienceandthelikes)willnotresideinHellfireforever,(i.e.
hisIslaamisaffirmed,whileabsolutemnisdeniedforhim),bearinginmindthedifferenceofopinionontheissueoftheabandonmentof
prayer.
Wesay:SoaccordingtoAmjadthemajorscholarspreyanddeceivetheignorantoneswhenthey:
GavefatwinwhichtheydenythisdifferenceofopinionwhichAmjadmakesupbyhimself?
WriteintroductionstobookswhichclearlyrefuteAmjadsdifferenceofopinion?
Refute and warn against books written by Raaid aalTaahir, Khaalid bin Abderahmaan al Masrie, AzZahraanee, Murad
Shukri, Adnaan AbdulQaadir and the book Dalaail alBurhaan, in which they tried to spread this so called difference of
opinion?72
72ThisonissuesonwhichalHalabeeandotherswerecriticizedinthepast!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoMeGAZ8ocU
TherewasalsoabookcalledDalaailalBurhaanfieMasaailalImaanwrittenbyAalShariefonwhichcoveritwaswrittenthatitwasreadbyAshShaykh
Rabiandhegavecommentstothebook.
InthisbookthestancethatTakfieroftheonewholeavesofjinsalamalcompletelyisconsideredamatterofkhilaafwithinAhlusSunnah.Listenandsee
herewhatashShaykhalGhudayyaan,theMuftiandashShaykhalFawzaansayaboutthisbookandthisclaim:
http://www.safeshare.tv/w/qGWQWhQypM
http://www.safeshare.tv/w/kiuGGUwSQN
Also the book Dham alIrjaa by Khaalid alMasrie was praised by ashShaykh Rabi and this book is also heavily criticized by the Mufti and ashShaykh al
Fawzaan
InthisbookthestancethatTakfieroftheoneheleavesofjinsalamalcompletelyisamatterofkhilaafwithinAhlusSunnah,isbeingspread.
AlsoRaaidaalTaahirclaimedthisinhisbookNasbarRaayah..ThisbookwasalsopraisedbyashShaykhRabi!Ascanbeseenhere:
http://www.alafak.com/showthread.php?t=12511
AshShaykhRabiclearlyopposestheIjmaaandthestanceofmanyUlamaaregardingjinsalamal!AndhesaidwhencommentingonsomewordsofIbn
TaymiyyahwhichRaaidquotesinNasbarRayaa:
ThewordsofthisImamarerealclearontheconsiderationthatthetawheedandtheImaanwiththeheartandtonguewillbringtheMuwahidoutofthe
fire.LookhowheclarifiesthattheintercessionisfoundeduponbaringwitnesstoAllaahwithatTawheedandonalIkhlaaswhichistheactionoftheheart
andontheatTasdeeqwiththeheart,sohecontentedwithalimaanintheheartandthepronunciationwiththetonguetheaffirmationofwhatisinthe
heart, and he did not mention actions in this important occasion, nor did he make the intercession dependent on it, and this, (action) from him (i.e Ibn
Taymiyyah)isbuildingupontheahaadiethoftheintercession(asproof);especiallyhissaying,maypeaceandblessingsbeuponhim,:"Theydidnotperform
anygoodactions"(lamyamaloeghayranqat.
AndAmjadsaidmanyofAhluSunnah.MaybeheisabletoquotethisgroupofmanyscholarsfromAhlasSunnah,becausewe
dontknowofthem?AllwehaveseenisAmjadbuildinghisunderstandingontheunderstandingofalalab,andthentriesto
aidthisfalseunderstandingbyselectivelyquotingthewordsofthescholars.
Secondly Amjad is really contradictory because although he opposes the term jins alamal, he accepts the terms shar
iahandsharkamlandsaysonpage68:
These phrases (shar iah, shar kaml) can be found in the statements of the Scholars, such as Shaykh Ibn Bz, Shaykh Ibn al
Uthaymnandothers.
We say: The term jins alamal is also used by many Ulamaa. So why do you reject their usage the way you do? We say:
becauseyourejecttheIjmoftheSalafthatleavingofallactionsofthelimbsisactuallyakfirandthistermisusedby
somescholarstoclarifythis!
This is why we see Amjad shop selectively in the words of Ahl alIlm, attacking the ones who spread this Ijm, and all this
withoutreturningtothemajorscholarsforcomprehension.
Youacceptthewordsshariahandsharkaml,becauseithelpsyouspreadyourimaginarykhilf.
ThirdlyAmjadshowswhyhequestionsthisterm,hesaysonpage42:
Notethatthewordjins(meaninggenus)isfoundinthespeechofIbnTaymiyyah(andothers)inthecourseofdiscussingtheissueof
mn. However the adddiyyah and this is the main thrust of the Shaykh Rabs criticism are entering this word into the actual
definition(tarf)ofmn,suchthatifyoudonotsaytrikjinsalamalkfir(theonewhoabandonsthegenusofactionisadisbeliever)
youareuponIrj.AndthisisaclearlieupontheSalaf,astheydidnotusethisinthedefinitionofmn.
Wehavesomeobservationsonthis:
SonowweseeAmjadacknowledgingthefactthatsomeoftheSalafusedthisterm,sowhenAmjadwasconfronted
bythisundeniablefact,hecameupwithanewtrick,andthatsinventingthenotionthattheadddiyyahenterit
intotheactualtarfofalmn,andhe hasnoproofatallforthis accusation,whereas,atthesame time, hedoesnt
claimthatthetermsshartiahandshartkamlarebeingenteredintothetarifofalmn?!
(Raaidthensays):ThisisthetextofthespeechoftheShaykhhafidhahullaahinhisownhandwritingonp.28oftheRisaallahbeforeadjustments,andI
willbedownloadingthiscompletepageinthehandwritingoftheShaykhifitismadeeasyformeintheattachments;untilthereisnottheleastofdoubtfor
anyoneinknowingthedoctrineoftheShaykhinthisissue.
WewillqoutemanywordsfromIbnTaymiyyahwhichtotallyrefutethiswrongunderstanding!!
TheoneswhoheisreferringtowiththetermadddiyyahwhoinrealityareAhlasSunnahwhocritisetheirfalse
understandingofalmntheydontenterthiswordintotheactualtarifofalmnbecausetheyaresatisfiedwith
what the Salaf came with. The major scholars dont do it, and also scholars who are now viciously attacked for
defendingtheAqdahoftheSalafonalmnlikeashShaykhJarb,ashShaykhalGhmid,ashShaykhAbMlik
alJuhandontdothis.AllthisarejustthesameoldscaretacticsSpubsisusingagainsteveryonewhocriticizesthem
with clear proofs they cant refute. Were really astonished that there are still people who fall for this. May Allh
protectusfromtheirharm.
AlloftheseScholarsacceptedthatthereisanIjmonthistopic;whichyoudontacceptAmjad:Thattheoneleaving
ofallactionsofthelimbsisakfir!AndthatswhyAmjadisturningeverythingaround,soAmjadsayssuchthatif
youdonotsaytrikjinsalamalkfir(theonewhoabandonsthegenusofactionisadisbeliever)youareuponIrj..Thisis
howhedistortsthefacts,becauseitsnotanditwasneveraboutnotsayingthattarikjinsalamaliskafir,butitsall
about the ones who started believing, and saying, and spreading that the one who abandons all the actions of the
limbswasstillamuslim!Basedupontheirfalseunderstandingofsomemutashbihtexts.SowhenAhlasSunnahin
everytimeandplacestartedtonoticetheappearanceofthisfalsemadhhabtheyrefuteditwithclearproofs,andwith
the understanding of the Salaf. So there is a clear distinction between adding this term to the tarif of almn and
betweenusingthisterminologyinordertoexplainthecorrectunderstandingofthetarifofalmn,andtorefutethe
falsehood of alIrj. Just like when the People of Kalm felt no longer sufficed with the kalm of the Salaf like Ar
Rahmnu al alArshi Istaw (arRahmaan rose over His Throne), and Allhu f sSam, they started adding and
innovatingconceptslike:Allhisnotajism,norajawhar,noranarad,norinmakaan,orinjihah,andheisnotsubjectto
hawaadith....ThenAhlasSunnahstartedusingthesenewlyintroducedterms,butonlytorefutetheirfalsemeanings
and implications. So when the NeoMurjiàh started explaining the speech of the Salaf almn is Qawl, amal, and
Itiqaad according to their false understanding, and started saying that alamal is only a condition for the
completeness of almn and not for its correctness. Thats when Ahl asSunnah started to refute their false
understanding,soAhlasSunnahstartedusingkalminordertorefutethefalsekalmoftheNeoMurjiàh.Butallthis
is not unknown to Amjad and the likes, they just play dumb to aid their false madhhab, cause Spubs themselves
explainthisphenomenonquiteexplicitlyononeoftheirproxywebsitesAsharis.com:
AndtheirintentistoconfusebetweentheKalmthatistheirinnovatedbaatilKalm,(baatildirectingtobaatil)fromwhat
theytookfromtherefuseoftheHellenizednations,suchastheJews,ChristiansandSabeans,anduponwhichtheybuilttheir
entiretheologyandwhichthey(spuriously)callUsoolalDeenandbetweenwhatisgenerallytermedasKalm,meaning
speech,discussion,debate.Asforthosewhoseexampletheymention,thenallofthatreferstothesimpleassertionofthetruth
uponnothingbutthetextsoftheQuran,theSunnahandsoundreasoningifrequired.Thatsit,nothingelse.
SowhentheNeoMurjiàhstartingusingbaatildirectingtobaatil,andstartedsayingthatalamalisapartofmnbut
itsshartkamltoalmnandnotshartsihhah,AhlusSunnahstartedtoexplainthatthereisamalthatisshartsihhahto
almn, and there is amal that is shart kaml to almn. But then the NeoMurjiàh started playing with these
explanationsofthescholars,andtheysaidWellifweareabletoacceptthatwhoeverdoesnotmaketakfroftheonewho
abandonsprayerhasnotexpelledprayerfrommn,thenthesamecanbesaidaboutotherbranchesofmnthatareless
thantheprayer.Whatitindicatesisthesevereweaknessofmn(forthosewhodonotmaketakfr),oritsabsence(forthosewho
domaketakfr).73SothenAhlasSunnah,beingforcedintousingcertaintermstorefutethenewlyinnovatedconcepts
of the NeoMurjiàh, started to explain that even though some individual kinds of actions ( ad alaml) are shart
kamltoalmn,thisdoesnotimplythatjinsalaml(actionsasawholecategory)areshartkamlalso!!Sothisisthe
truerealityofthesituation,and thisis therealproblemAmjadhaswiththis term!Because the termjinsalaml is
beingusedbyAhlasSunnahtodestroythenewlyinnovatedconceptsoftheNeoMurjiàh.SobeawareofthisyaaAhl
asSunnah!!
ThenAmjadmovesonandsaysonpage42:
AsforitsusebysomeoftheScholars,suchasthesayingofIbnTaymiyyah,Ithasalreadyprecededthatthegenusofactions(jinsal
aml) are from the binding necessities of the mn of the heart and that complete mn in the heart without anything of the outward
actions is impossible. All of these types of statements are from angle of showing the connection between the inward and the outward
whichAhlalSunnahaffirminoppositiontotheMurjiahandthisislargelyatheoreticalissuetoshowconceptualerrorsoftheMurjiah
whentheyexpelledtheactionsoftheheartfrommn.
Wesay:ThisisunderstandingofthewordsofIbnTaymiyyaharefalse,anditshowsyetagainthealabSpubsconnection!It
iswellestablishedthatShaykhulIslmIbnTaymiyyahdeclaresboththeonewholeavestheprayerandtheactionsofthelimbs
intotalitytobeakfir!SowithorwithoutjinsalamalyouopposethisImm!
SecondlyyoufollowalalabsunderstandinginthewordsofIbnTaymiyyah. 74Toproofthiswewillnowquotesomewords
ofIbnTaymiyyahforclarityinthismatter:
Andithasprecededthatjinsalamlarefromthelawzim(requirements)ofthebeliefintheheart(mnalqalb),andthatthecorrect
(attaam)believeoftheheart75 withoutanythingoftheoutwardactionsisimpossible,regardlessifhemakesaddhaahir(outwardactions)
fromthenecessitiesofalmnoradjuzofalmn,ashaspreceded.
[Majmualfatwbook7,page616]
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AndthiswasanexactquotefromAmjad,weuseditbecauseheistheperfectarticulatoroftheNeoMurjiàhMadhhab
WhilealHalabeehasalreadybeenrefutedbytheLajnah.Afterthisrefutation,alHalabeetriedtorefutetheLajnah.Onwhichadetailedreplycamefromas
ShaykhMohammedbinSaalimadDawsarieRafualLaaimahanfatwaalLajnatudDaaimah:
This book has an introduction of 5 Mashaykh, with ashShaykh arRajihie and ashShaykh alFawzaan! On page 80 adDawsarie starts refuting the issue of
leavingallactionsofthelimbs!HealsoshowsthatalHalabee,likeAmjad,misunderstandsthewordsofIbnTaymiyyahinthisissue!Thisbookhasbeen
writtenover12yearsagoandstillAmjadisspreadingwhathedidfromtheyear2000!
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AlHalabeeusedthewordingattaam(correct);toclaimthatwithoutoutwardactionsonecanstillbeMuslim!LikehedidinhisbookSayhatuNadheer
page28!He,likeAmjad,leavesoftensofquotesofIbnTaymiyyahwhichprovetheImaamsstanceregardingthisissue!AdDawsreebringsanotherquote
fromalMajmualfatawaa(7/553):AndwiththisyouknowthatwhobelievesinhisheartwithrealImaan,itisimpossiblethathedoesntspeakwiththe
Shahadataynwhilebeingableto,sono(tspeakingwiththe)shahadataynwhilebeingabletonecessarilyremovesalImaanalqalbee(correct)attaam.
ThisquoteclearlyprovesthemeaningofthewordatTaam!!
AdDawsree then follow up with a quote from alMajmualfatawaa (7/562):..And is has preceded that this is from necessities of alImaan and its
obligatory(parts),becauseitisimpossiblethatthereiscorrect(atTaam)Imaanintheheartwithoutqawl(speech)andoutwardactions(amaldhaahir).
ThisquotethatatTaaminrealitymeanscorrect!Andnotcomplete..sopayattentionAmjad!!
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SojinsalamalisusedinthemannerourScholarsuseittoday!
ThenIbnTaymiyyahcontinuesafewpagesfurtheronpage621:
ItbecameclearthattheReligionrequiresbothwordsandactions,andthatitisimpossiblethatapersonisabelieverinAllahandHis
Messengerbyhisheart,orbyhisheartandtongue,andyetdidnotperformanyoftheseapparentobligations;neitherSalh,orZakh,or
Sawm,oranythingelsefromtheseobligations.
ThentheShaykhsaysafewlinesfurtheronthesamepagemakingtheissueevenmoreclear:
Whoever says: That the obligatory mn (almn alWaajib) is realized without performing anything of the waajibaat (obligatory
actions), regardless if he makes the performance of these waajibaat a necessary requirement for it, or a juz` of it, for this is (merely) a
linguisticdispute,thanheismistakenwithaclearmistake,andthisisthebidahofalIrj,whichmadetheSalafandtheImmsspeak
outseverelyagainstitsadherents,andtheyspokeagainstitwithseverespeech,whichiswellknown,andasalhisitsgreatestandmost
generalanditsforemostandmosthonorable.
[MajmulFatwabook7/621]
AndIbnTaymiyyahsaidinSharalUmdah(2/86):
almnwithAhlasSunnahwalDjamaaaisqawlandamalasindicatedbytheKitaabandtheSunnah,andwheretheSalafhave
agreedupon(ajmaaalayh).Andwhatisaffirmedinitsplace(ofdiscourse).Soalqawl(speech)is:TasdeeqarRasoel(affirmationofthe
Messenger)andalamal(theactions)is:TasdeeqalQawl(affirmationofthespeech),whentheservantleavesalamalbilkulliyyahhe
isnotamuminuntilhesaid:SothetrueDeenisatTaaa(obedience)andalInqiyaad(submission)andthisismadecomplete(asin
correct) by alfil (the actions), not by alqawl (speech) alone, so whoever does not perform any action for Allh, he did not devote any
religiontoAllh,andwhoeverhasnoDeen(religion)iskfir.
IbnTamiyyahsaidinMajmalFatwabook20,page97:
Andtakfroftheonewholeavestheprayerismashoor(wellknown)andhasbeentransmittedfromthemajorityoftheSalaffromthe
SahbahandtheTbin
SoweclearlyseethatIbnTaymiyyahsunderstandingtotallyopposesAmjadandhisSalafalalabandalsoashShaykhRab
insomeinstances!
AmjadthanquotesashShaykhRabonpage43:
And I announced many times that I declare the one who abandons action (amal) to be a disbeliever, and that I simply warn
againsttheuseofambiguouswordssuchasjinsalamalbuttheydidnotdesistfromaccusingmewithIrj.RefertoIttiafAhlalidq
walUrfn,(p.250251)
Wesay:TheShaykhgenerallywarnsforthis termjinsalamalwhilehehimselfclaimstodeclaretheonewhoabandonsall
actionsofthelimbstobeadisbeliever..SoifashShaykhRabseesthisissueasanissueofkhilf,andheisonlydefending
theoneswhoareofthisopinionagainstthesocalledadddiyyah,thenwhoistheSalafoftheShaykhinthisclaim?Andwho
arethesescholarswhohavetheopinionthat:theonewhoabandonsallactionsofthelimbsisnotakfir.??
AlJaabireeUbaydhaadaahullaahandashShaykhasSuhaymieadvisedashShaykhRabonthisissuebackalongtimeago
(some10yearsnow),theysaidtoashShaykhRab:76
Secondly: You said, Braka Allh fkum, in Laftaat ilaa Aghtaa sadarat min alagh alkariem ashShaykh Fli page 37 in
commentingonhisanswertothequestionofthequestionerintheissue:Jinsalamal.Itwasappropriatetoadvisethemnottodelvein
Jinsalamal,becauseitwasanissuetheSalafwouldnotdelvein,asfarasIknow.)
WeSay(Ubayd,SuaymieandasSadie):
1.
The scholars from the Salaf have spoken regarding this issue and from them Shayh ulIslaam Ibn Taymiyyah, ashShaykh Ibn
Bz,ashShaykhIbnUthayminmayAllhbeMercifulltothem,andashShaykhalFawzn,mayAllhprotecthimandothers
thanthem,andtheirspeechisclearinthisissue.
2.
Yousaid:RegardingwhatIknowthisisgoodthatyoudontstrictlydenythis,butitwasfittingtobepatientinthis
issueandnottobashyourbrotherinthisuntilanoppositionagainsthiswordsoccurredtoyou,liketheUlamaarule.
3.
ThewordsofashShaykhFliinhisanswer:WithoutdoubtheagreedwiththeMurjiabutisfittingtolookathisreality,at
whathebelievesandhisactions).TheShaykhhadareservationregardingtheonewhowasaskedaboutbecausehedidnotjudge
with exact alIrj, as for agreeing with the Murjiàh in that speech in general terms, than this is what becomes
apparenttousandthisbecausealmnwithAhluSunnahisspeech,actionsandbelief,theremustbethreethings,
andwhodoesnotmaketakfrontrikdjinsalamal(theonewholeavesalltheactions)thanactionsarewithhim
notfromtherealityofalmn,andthisisanaiminhisconsentwiththeMurjiàh,becauseifactionswerefromal
mnwithhim,hewouldmaketakfrofhim.
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In1425,inArabicpleasereferto:http://www.selefienederland.nl/site/phocadownload/nasihahlidrabee.doc
SomepointsofconsiderationforAmjad:
Hesaysthatthephrasejinsalamalisinnovatedwithoutrestrictionandthataladdiyyahusethisasexpressions
ofalrj.YouAmjadquotemanyquotationsfromashShaykhRabwhichspeakaboutenteringthisspeechintothe
(tarif)definitionofalmn.ButalsowithoutenteringthisintothetarifashShaykhRabdidntacceptthisterm!
AshShaykhasSuaymieandUbaydbothagreewithFlialarbhadaahullaahonthisspecificissueandsay
that:
ThesewordsfromthesemashaykhdirectedtoashShaykhRabshowthattheissueofJinsalamalwaswellknownwiththe
scholars.Andrejectingitintotalityiswrong.Thusprovingthatmanyscholarsspokewithit(likealFawznwhomspubs
nevermentionintheseissuessincehedestroyedalalabandhisIrj!!)
TheymentionIbnTaymiyyahwhichrefutesAmjadsphilosophicalexplanationregardingthemeaningofjinsalamalwhen
he(again!!)explainedthewordsofaScholarhimself!
That the person who declares that the one who leaves all actions of the limbs can still be a mu`min, agrees with the
Murjiàh,andthatthisconclusionwhasapparenttothesemashaykh.
Thatalmnconsistsofthreethingsandleavingofonepartcompletelymeansthatonehasnotachievedtherealityofal
mn.77
What does Amjad say now? Are these Mashaykh also adddiyyah, linked to the Qutbiyyah? Do they falsely accuse Ahl as
Sunnahwithalrj?!
We want to stress: We do not know of tadhr or tabd from both ashShaykh asSuaymie and ashShaykh Ubayd on Fli
untilthisday!
Also many other Ulamaa didnt speak about Fli. So why this extremism in linking everyone who disagrees with their
mistakes in the understanding of almn to the adddiyyah? Fli was mistaken regarding his methodology in alJar wa at
Tadl,andwasrightfullyrefutedforthis,thesamemethodologywhichspubsfollowsuntilthisday.
SoAmjadsowninterpretationisveryweakandnotaccuratetosaytheleast!DoesAmjadtrulyunderstandthecurrentstateof
someoftheexpressionsmadebyashShaykhRabthelastthreeyears?Andisheabletotakeoffhisalabglassesandlookat
ashShaykhRabsstatementswithouthawaa?OrdoeshejusttrytouseashShaykhRabsspeechagain(likeinthetimewith
theLajnah)tojustifyhisMadhhabofalIrj??
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ThisIjmaaismentionedbymanyUlamaaoftheSalafinthebookAqwaalDhawialArfaanfieannaAmaalalDjawaarihdaagilatoenfiemoesammaal
Imaan. This book has an introduction by ashShaykh alFawzaan. AshShaykh Rabi rejects and attackes this ijmaa related by alImaam ashShaafiI, and
clamesitasinauthenticwhilenothavinganySalafforthis?!
AmjadquotesashShaykhRabagainonpage44:
ShaykhRabalsosaid,inclarifyingtheirdoubtsaroundsevenyearsago,It isdesirablethatyouadvisethemnottodelveinto (this

issue)ofjinsalamalbecauseitisamattertheSalafdidnotdelveintofromwhatIknow.ItisbettertosticktowhattheSalafaffirmedand
believed,thatmnisspeechandbelief,thespeechoftheheartandthetongueandtheactionoftheheartandlimbs,andthatitincreases
anddecreases,itincreaseswithobedienceanddecreaseswithdisobedience.
Andonthesamepage:
Sonow,ifone(comesalong)andsaysthattheonewhoabandonsjinsalamalisdeficientinmn,orthattheonewhocommitsamajor
sin is deficient in mn, then it is not correct to say that he has agreedwith the Murjiah, because the Murjiah do not speak with the
increaseofmnoritsdecrease.Rather,themajorsinnertothem(theExtremeMurjiah)iscompleteinmn,infact,(tothem)themn
ofthemostsinfulofpeopleislikethemnofJibrlandMuammad( ).Thismatteriscleartothestudentsofknowledge,soIdonot
knowhowyouwereunawareofthis?RefertoIttiafAhlalidqwalUrfn,(pp.254255).
Wesay:TheSalafhadanIjmontheissueofthekufroftheonewholeavesallactionswiththelimbs.Sowhydidalalab,Az
Zahrn,ashShukricomeupwiththenewlyinnovatedclaimthatthisisanissueofkhilfwithinAhlasSunnah?Whereasthe
IjmhasbeenreportedbymanyscholarsoftheSalaf?
WhydoesashShaykhRabopposetheImmsofAhlasSunnahinthisissue?LikeibnKhuzaymah,ibnTaymiyyah,Ulamaaad
DawahanNajdiyyah,andtheImmsofthiserathelikesofIbnBz,Muqbilandotherswhoreferredtotheseissuesandclearly
refuted the false claiments of the existence of a khilf within Ahl asSunnah. And who supported many mashaykh and tulb in
theirwritingsthatproofanddefendthisIjm?Yes,themajorscholarsofourera,manyofthemhavebeenmentionedinthis
article already, and all of them unanimously have described the one who doesnt make takfr of the one who leaves alamal
completelytobeinagreementwiththeMurjiàh.
AmjadisgettingmoredesperateandenterssomespeechofalFawznintothearena
AfterAmjadpublishedhisrecentarticle,herepublishesitafewdayslaterwithsomeextraaddedpages(20+),againwithmuch
ofthesamefoolishrhetoric.Hisattemptstofoolthepeoplegettingevenmoredesperate,sohesaysonpage46:
ShaykhlialFawznwasasked,Isitcorrecttosay,jinsalamal(thegenusofaction)isaninnovatedtermnotrelatedfromthe
Salafanditisageneral,ambiguousword?orisitbettertoleave(thisstatement)?MayAllhblessyouandbringbenefitthroughyou?
AndAllhknowsbest,itappearsthismayhavebeenaquestionsoughtsothatShaykhRabsrefutationsagainsttheadddslikeFli
alarbcanbeundermined,perhapsthequestionerwantedShaykhalFawzntoaffirm,thatoneshouldnotclaimthatjinsalamalisan
innovatedterm.TheShaykhresponded,WehavenotknownthisinthespeechofourScholarsandtheScholarsoftheSalaf.Wedonot
knowofdifferentiatingbetweenjinsalamalandamal(action).Yousimplysayaction!!Actionisfrommn,actionisfrommn.
mnisspeechofthetongue,beliefintheheartandactingwiththelimbs.Theydidnotsayjinsalamalforthe(actionof)thelimbs.
Thisphrasehasnobasisforit,thisphrasehasnobasisforit.PerhapsithascomefromtheMurjiah!Perhapsitcamefromthedirectionof
theMurjiah.
Ironically,weseetheagreementbetweenShaykhalFawznandShaykhRabwhowarnfrominnovatedtermsindefiningmn.
Wesay:BothMashaykhareclearlynotinagreement.BecauseashShaykhRab:
DefendedalalabagainstmanyrefutationsoftheLajnah
AshShaykhRabalsohelpedwriterslikeRaaidaalTaahir,KhalidalMasrie,andevenalalab!!Whoallhavebeenrefutedon
theissueofalmn.AllofthemspreadtheerrorthattheonewholeavesallactionsofthelimbscanbeMuslim,and/orthatits
anissueofkhilaafwithinAhlasSunnah.
AshShaykhRabdefendsthenotionthattheonewholeavesallactionsofthelimbscanbeaMuslim
AshShaykhalFawznhelpedwriterslikeashShaykhBakrAbuZayd,ashShaykhasSinnie,ashShaykhashShibalandothers
whocriticizethisnotion,whichisdefendedbyashShaykhRab.
AshShaykhRabhasmanywritingsinwhichheattackstheoneswhoseethisissueasanIjm,mashaykhlikealJuhanee,al
Ghaamidie,butnotthemajorscholars!?Hedescribestheonefollowingthetheunderstandingofthemajorscholarsonthisissue
asadddiyyahetc.
AshShaykhRabcriticizestheIjmrelatedbyAbdullhibnShaqq,andtheIjmaarelatedbyashShaafiieetc.
AshShaykhRabreferstomutashbihahadeethtodefendtheviewpointthatapersonwhodidntperformanygoodactionscan
stillbemu`min.Andusesthisasaprooftoclaimthatthereisatruedifferenceofopinionregardingthis.
Andmoreissues.SowhatAmjadisdoingbyquotingoneisolatedspeechofashShaykhalFawznwhileleavingallthe
other speech, isnt fair to say the least. And it shows once more that Ajmad is playing games with the speech of the
scholars.
Amjadthencontinuesonpage46:
HoweveritisclearthatShaykhalFawznisnotawareoftheevildesignsofthoseadddsandTakfrswhobroughtthisphrasejins
alamal,intendingbythattomaketakfrofMuslimsandaccusetheirScholarwithIrj.
We say: Not aware?! It was ashShaykh Rab and alJbir Ubayd who were defending alalab way back when you were
openlyfollowinghimineverystepintheyear2000.AshShaykhRabfinallyreturnedtotheLajnahandacknowledgedthatal
alabwaswrongin theyear2013!Remember: thescholarswerealreadyspeakingaboutalalabin1419when heworked
togetherwithMuradShukri!AndhewasagainrefutedbytheLajnahin142178.Thisismorethan14years!Soitwasyouwho
wasnotawarethatyouwerespreadingIrj!ButtheproblemisthatyoukeepspreadingthisIrj.Theonlydifferenceisthat
younowspreadalalabsviewwithoutmentioninghimanduseashShaykhRabtocoverupforthis.ButthealabAmjad
connectionisstillveryapparentforthosewhoknowtheirhistory.
Secondly:accordingto the majorscholars,who youdeliberatelymisquote,theonewholeavesallactionsof thelimbsisnta

Muslim.AlltheseScholarslikeIbnUthaymin,arRji,IbnBz,alGhudayyn,IbnTaymiyyahandothersdenythisclaimand
youopposeanIjmrelatedbymanyUlamaa.SowhoismisusingthisissueAmjad,youorthey?!
Thirdly:AshShaykhalFawznismorethanawareofthedangeroftheseviewpointsofIrj,sopleaseAmjadsafeusyour
talumanddoublestandards.
Hethensaysonthesamepage:
It is not the Murjiah who brought this, but the Qubiyyah, Surriyyah, Takfriyyah, adddiyyah, and this latest band of extremist
adddsareusingtheseissuesinordersoelicitstatementsagainstShaykhRabandothers,whilsttheseScholarsarenotfullyawareof
thehistoryandrealityofthoseadddswhoareapproachingthem.
We say: We have showed already with clear proofs that the term jins alamal was used by many scholars. And that ash
Shaykh Rab was advised by asSuyam, and alJbir Ubayd, to not declare it as an innovation absolutely. And that ash
Shaykh alFawzn, who is being misused by Amjad now, himself used this term in his comments on ashShaykh asSinnis
work!
Itwasalalabandotherswhostartedclaimingthatthereisapossibilitythatonewhodoesntactwiththelimbsandleavesof
allactionsisstillaMuslim!AndthatalAmlareshartkaml,notshartsihhah!79
AsShaykh alFawzn, being quite aware of the tricks of Ahl alBtil, refuted this from the beginning and still refutes this.
WhereasAmjadwasdefendingalalabfromthebeginning,andslanderedtheLajnah,hesaid:
TheverdictagainstShaikhAliHasanalHalabisbooksontakfir80andrulingbyotherthanwhatAllhhasrevealedwasanerroneous
Ijtihaad and was disregarded and rejected by a fair portion of the People of Knowledge, amongst them Imm Ibn Uthaimeen, Shaikh
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http://www.alifta.net/Fatawa/FatawaChapters.aspx?languagename=en&View=Page&PageID=10882&PageNo=1&BookID=7
WhichisalsothecreedofAmjad.AsshownbeforehesaidinreadingsinadvancedQutbism:
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TheSunniCreed
AnditissufficientforyouOSunnitoknowthecreedofAhlusSunnahonImaanbythe
following:
And we hold that Imaan has an asl (root) and furoo (branches). And we hold that all of the righteous actions, save the prayer (for those who hold its
abandonmenttobekufr),tocompleteandperfectImaan,asistextuallystatedbymanyoftheSalaf,pastandpresent.Andwedonotholdthatclaimingthat
therighteousactions(oftheheartandlimbs)perfectandcompleteImaannecessitatesexpellingactionsfromImaan,justasitisnotnecessitatedfromthe
viewpointthatabandoningprayerisnotmajorkufr,thattheprayeritselfisnotfromImaanandthatbecauseprayerisanaction,thatactionsthereforearenot
fromImaan!!!.
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SayhatuunNadheer,1ofbothbookswasreviewedbyashShaykhRabibeforeitsspreadingasalHalabeesaysonpage6:
http://ia600707.us.archive.org/4/items/rui23/rui23.pdf
HussainAalashShaikh,ShaikhliasSadlaanandothers.Besides,ShaikhAliHasanprovidedanexcellentreplytoalltheclaimsofthe
Committeeandclarifiedhisaqeedah,clearlyandmanifestly.Andnonerejoicedwiththisfatwaabuteveryrevolutionarytakfiri,asstated
byImmIbnUthaimeeninShaikhAliHasansmeetingwithhim,amonthorsoaftertheverdictwasissued.
We say: You try to limit the issue to ruling by other than what Allh revealed. While alalab also used to spread a wrong
understandingoftrikjinsalamal81,andmisquotedseveralscholarsasalalabhimselflateracknowledgedintheprintofhis
bookTahdhrminfitanalGhuluwwfitTakfr.Onitscoveralalabwrote:
The3rdprint,anewprint,revised,withadditionsandcorrectedfromthepointsofdirectionbytheLajnahadDimahl
ilButhalUlamaawalIftaafieHayàtKibralUlamaa82
SowhatwillAmjadsay?Heblindlyfollowed,anddefendedalalabwhowaswrong,hidingbehindsomeMashaykhlikehe
doesnowin2014alloveragain.AshShaykhRabi,whowasusedbackthenbyAmjadtodefendalalab,hasnowrefutedal
alabonthisspecificpoint,andrefersbacktotheLajnahandtheirerroneousijtihaad?!
People can clearly see Amjads disregard for the Lajnah and its members, and where did Amjad return to the djar mufassar
given by the likes of adDawsar like we showed? This djar mufassar was aided and praised by many Scholars. This, next to
otherMashaykhwhorefutedalalabwithtafsl.WhereasAmjadinsteadmerelyreturnedtogeneralsayingsofsomeScholars,
but not to a knowledge based discussion on the points of criticism! With this he follows the methodology of Abu lassan,
Aroorandalalab.Bycounteringthejarmufassarmubayyinlissebeb(thedetailedcriticism that explainsthereason)with
somekalmmubham,andhidingbehindsomescholars.SowherearetheqawaaidassalafiyyahwithSpubs?
Like:
khabraththiqqahmaqbl
(Newsofthetrustworthyisaccepted)
menalimaalojahalmenlyalam
(theonewhoisknowledgeableabouttheproofhasprecedenceovertheonewhodoesnt)
aljarmufassarmuqaddamalattadlmujmal
(Thedetailedcriticismhasprecedenceoverthegeneralpraise)
So the scholars of the Lajnah are thiqqt, and they are more knowledgeable on the issue of almn and on the situation of al
alab,andtheybroughtthejarmufassar.ButAmjadandtheSpubsSquadofShenanigansopposedalltheseqawid,wentinto
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LikeadDawsareepointsoutinhisbook:RafulLaaimah..Andwhichwequotedbefore!SowhydoesAmjadaddressthesepointsifheblindlyfollowsal
Halabeeanyway.TheyalsoshowedthiskindofHizbiyyahbackthen,whentheyblindlyfollowedFaalihalHarbeeinsomeissuesofalJarhwaatTadeeland
pumpedFawzeealBahrainiup!TheproblemwithspubsisthattheygotridofFaalihandalHalabeebasedonblindfollowingandnotknowledgebasedittibaa,
becausetheyarestillinfluencedbytheirmanhaj.ByFaalihinalJarhwaatTadeelandbyalHalabeeinalImaan!!
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MayAllaahaidasShaykhAliinreturningonhisothermistakes.Ameen.
taassubmode,anddefendedalalabonalBtil.AndeveryonewhoopposedthemwasaccusedofQutbiyyahandadddiyyah.
Whichproofsthatevenin their blindfollowing oftheirMurshidtheyarevery selective. BecauseashShaykhRabhimself
taught us that if there is any difference of opinion between two trustworthy mashaykh, that we should do research! Spubs
followedastudentfromImmalAlbnblindlyandleftadozenscholarswithoutinvestigation!Thisopposesalltheyclaimto
standfor!
Amjadsaid:
TheoldverdictagainstMuradShukri,andweholdthatitwascorrectandtrueandappropriate,andwedisownMuradShukri,anditis
uponhimtoexplainandclarifyhispositionafterweheardfromShaikhAliHasanthathedidnotfullyrecant,despiteinitialindications
thathedid.AsforShaikhAliHasansinvolvementwithMuradShukri,thenherecantedandmadethatknownopenly,inthemagazines,
newspapers and elsewhere. The way of the Qutubiyyah has been to use the slips and mistakes of individuals within Ahl usSunnah to
strike and refute the actual dawah of Ahl usSunnah. Yet, we still await the open recantation of the Qutubiyyah Jadeedah, for their
preachingthedoctrineoftheKhawaarij,performingtakfiroftheSinners,innovatingthebidahofTawhidalHaakimiyyahandthebidah
ofalMuwaazanah,andforrevilingandslanderingthescholars,andforshowingloyaltytotheInnovators,andformakingthemnofthe
Mockers of the Prophets and Messengers, those who spoke Kufr and Apostasy, to be equivalent to the mn of Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn
AbdulWahhaab.Wewaittoseethisfromthem,inshaaAllhwewaittoseethisrepentancefromthisextremist,practicalneoIrj.
Wesay:Indeedalalabdidthat,butinthebookofShukri83theissueofjinsalamalwasalsomentioned.84ButAmjadistrying
tohidethisreality.
Amjadcontinues:
TheverdictagainstazZahraani85andAdnaanAdbdulQadir86ontheirbooksonmninwhichdespitetheirexplicitlystatingtheirbelief
thatactionsareessentialtomn,arukn(pillar)ofit,fromthereality(haqeeqah)ofit,andtheirveryclearrefutationsoftheMurjiahon
thispoint,intheverysamebooks,andsoon,theywerestillaccusedwithIrj.Andthisisbecausetheyspokeoftheviewpointthatthe
onewhohasnoaction(whilehavingthebasisandrootofmn)willnotremainintheHellfireforever,basingtheirviewpointonsome
authentictextsthatstatetheremovalfromtheFireofthosewhohadnotdoneanygoodwhatsoever.Andweholdthistobeanerroneous
ijtihaad on behalf of the Committee, since the saying of the Murjiah is that the one with no actions is a Believer, perfect in his faith,
becausetothemactionsarenotfrommn.ButasforthesayingthattheonewithnogooddeedswillbetakenoutofHellfire(bearingin
mindthedifferenceofopinionontheabandonmentofprayer)thenthatisoneofthetwosayingsofAhlusSunnah,asisindicatedinthe
verdictsoftheScholarsandhasnorelationtothesayingoftheMurjiah,unlessitisaddedtoitthattheonewhodieswithnoactions,
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AsShaykh Ali had many different stadia and mistakes from the year 1414, 21 years ago, until the year 1421, still 14 years ago and Amjad is still on this
methodology.
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whilehavingtheabilitytodoso,isaBeliever,perfectandcompleteinhismn,butAhlusSunnah,thosefromthemwhospeakwiththe
deliverancefromtheFireofthosewhohadnotdoneanygood,donotsaythat,refugeisfromAllhthattheyshouldsaythat.
AshShaykhazZahrnmadepublictawbahandreturnedfromhiserror:
http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vb/showthread.php?t=234775
Hesaid,mayAllhrewardhimwithgood:
WheretheImmsoftheSalafandtheKhalaffromAhlasSunnahareunitedupon(is)that:
Almnisqawl(speech)andamal(actions),qawloftheheartandthetongueandamaloftheheartandthelimbsAndthat
thesepillarsandbuildingpartsoutofwhichit(almn)exist,thereisnothingfromitthatisoutsideofitsaqqah(reality),
andthemnofapersonisnotcorrectandisnotacceptedfromhim,acceptwithalamalwithalqawlandalItiqd.
And:
These Ulama say:..That the saying that the one who leaves (all) the actions of the limbs is under the Mashàh (Will of Allh) is
contradicting with the saying that alamal is from almn and that the saying that alamal is a Rukn (Pillar) of almn makes it
necessarytodenythemnandtheIslaamoftheonewholeavestheactionscompletelyandthattheonewhoascribesalIslaamtohimis
eitherfromthepureMurjiaorhespeakswiththeirsaying.
azZahrnthensaid:
Thereisnodoubtwithmenowthattheirsayingiscorrect
Onpage46Amjadfinishesbysaying:
From what has preceded the reader can see that the adddiyyah bring ambiguous phrases into the definition of mn that were not
known by the Salaf and then they create tribulations through these phrases, intending by that to declare the Salafi scholars astray and
misguided.Inadditiontotakingthisapproach,theyalsohaveanotherapproachoftreatinganyonewhospeakswiththeexplanationsofthe
SalafasbeingmisguidedandfromtheMurjiah.Fromtheexamplesofthatisthestatementthatmnhasafoundation(al)andabranch
(far)andthatthebranchperfectsthefoundation.
Wesay:Tobefrankly,wesincerelythinkthereisreallynothinglefttosayanymorethathasnotalreadybeensaidinthisarticle
until now. Abu Ind and the Spubs Squad of Shenanigans first start to build a premise composed of lies, distortions, and
deceptions.Thisistheirdesignerphase,theydesignafictionalreality(pollutingthemindsoftheirblindfollowers)basedon
theirMadhhabofalIrj,thatjinsalamalisaninnovatedtermonlyusedtoattackAhlasSunnah.Andthattheissueofleavingof
alltheactionsofthelimbsisakhilfwithinAhlasSunnah.
Then they enter into the next phase, the hunting phase, they start building on this false premise by hunting down all the
mutashbihspeechtheycangettheirhandsonintheirdestructivequestandeverythingisfairgametothem!!Thetextsofthe
revelations,thespeechsofthescholars,nothingisspared.EverythingthataidestheirfalseMadhhabofalIrjisbeingexploited.
Then they enter into their final phase, the destruction phase (destructing the aqid of their mindless followers), attacking
everyonewhorejectstheirfalsenotionofreality,accusingthemofadddiyyah,Qutbiyyah.Buttheyonlyattackthose,whothey
deemweak,likehyenas,instatusandposition.Whereastheonestheydeemstronginstatus,mountainsthatcannotbeeasily
circumvented,theyalreadyneutralizedtheirclearspeechintheeyesoftheirblindfollowers.
SoitshouldbecleartothesincerereaderthatAmjadisinclearoppositiontotheAqdahofAhlasSunnahwithalmn,andthe
scholarsoftheSalafandtheKhalaf.Soitsuponhimtoproperlyinvestigatethisissuewithoutalhawaa,andtostophistalbs.
Andthenhehastoanswerthefollowingquestionwithallsincerity:Didthescholarsdeclaretheonewholeavesallactions
ofthelimbstobekfirornot?AnddidtheyacceptorrejecttheclaimthatthisisanissueofkhilaafwithinAhlasSunnah!
Thatisthecoreissueatstake!
AbuIndandtheNarrationofAbdullhbinShaqq
Amjadsaysonpage32ofthealabPapers2.0:
One of the main proofs relied upon by those who make takfr of the one who abandons the praryer is the narration from the tabi,
AbdullhbinShaqqwhoisreportedtohavesaid,TheCompanionsoftheProphet( )neverusedtoconsidertheabandonmentofanyof
theactionstobedisbeliefexcepttheprayer.ShaykhRabhasestablishedthatthisparticularnarrationisnotauthenticfromAbdullh
binShaqqduetoweaknessinitschainandalsobecauseAbdullhonlynarratedfromadozenorsooftheCompanionsandtheclaimed
consensuscannotbeascertainedthroughjustthisnarrationalone.
Wesay:
1.
AshShaykh Rab himself used this narration as a proof and never declared it inauthentic before! Here are some
proofsfromhisbooks:
AsShaykhRabsaidinMajmookutubwaRasaailwafatw;book15,page249:
Question:Iftheabahwereunitedupontakfroftheonewholeavestheprayer,howisitjustifiedfortheoneswhocomeafterthemto
breakthatIjm?
AshShaykhRab:Wallhi,itispossiblethatalIjmdidntreachthem,anditispossiblethattheydidntunderstandanIjmfromthe
words of Abdullh bin Shaqq, and because of this Ibn Taymiyyah didnt convey an Ijm from the abah for the kufr of the one who
leavesthealh,butheonlyconveyedthattheirmajoritymadetakfrontheonewholeavesthealh.DidAbdullhbinShaqqgotoallthe
abah,SahaabieafterSahaabie,andtheysaidthistohim?Theseareodds,mayAllhblessyou.IfthisIjmwasrelatedperiodafterperiod
liketheIjmregardingtheobligationofasalh,azZakaat,asSawmandalHajj,thenwewouldnotfindanyoneopposingthisfromthem,
InshaaAllh.
WeseeherenotaffromashShaykhRabnordidtheShaykhrefutethisriwyah?AndashShaykhRabspeaksabouttheir
Majority performed takfr based upon the kalm of ibn Taymiyyah. While Ibn Taymiyyah speaks of an actual Ijm of the
abah?!AswillfollowfromourquotefromKitbalUmdah.EvenifAbdullhbinShaqqonlynarratedfromadozenorsoof
theCompanionsthenitwouldbeuptoashShaykhRabtoshowwhichSabiopposedthese12abah?Thisissomething
which hasnt been done by anyone yet! Other points of Ijm have sometimes been stated with even less than a dozen of the
CompanionslikeIbnQudmahQsaidinalMughni(2/310)whenhespokeabouttheprohibitionofbuyingtaxpaidland:
AndthisisthesayingofUmarbeforetheMuhadjireenandtheAnsaar,inthepresenceofthedominantabahandtheirImms,and
theyshowednoopposition,soitwasanIjmanditisnotpossibletofindanIjmstrongerthanthisandresemblingit,becausethereis
nowaytoconveythesayingofalltheabahinanissueandnotinconveyingthesayingoften(ofthem)andthereisnoIjmexcept
forthesayingwhichiswidespread.87
TheIjmregardingleavingtheprayerhasbeenconveyedby16abahandsomeofthemhavealsorelatedthesayingsof
the Prophet regarding leaving the prayer! Let alone that the scholars of adth accepted the authenticity of this athar of
AbdullhibnShaqqandthatthereisnooppositionfromanyoftheabah!
AshShaykhRabsaidinhisexplanationofUsoolasSunnahofalImmAmed,page61:
Underthechapter:Whoeverleavestheprayerhasdisbelieved.
Whoeverleavestheprayerhasdisbelieved,thereisnothingoftheactions(ofthelimbs)thatitsabandonmentiskufrexceptthe
prayer.Whoeverleavesitisakfir,andAllhallowedhiskilling.
AshShaykhRabcommentsonthesewordsofalImmAhmedraimahullhonpage62:
.There are many proofs, o brothers, for the ones who declare the one who leaves the alh to be a kfir, and very strong, they are
confrontedbytheoneswhodontmaketakfroftheonewholeavestheprayer,andtheyhavetawilaatregardingthesetextualproofs.88
87
TakenfromthebookAlImaanindaasSalafvolume1,page368,footnote1.
LikeashShaykhRabisaysabouttheoneswhoexplainthehadiethofalbitaaqahandthehadeethoftheonewhodidnogoodatalletc.ButyetashShaykh
Rabimakestakfeerontheonewholeavesallactionswiththelimbs,andtheonewholeavestheprayer.Amjadsaysonpage7:
It is also important to keep in mind that Shaykh Rab considers the one who abandons prayer to be a disbeliever, and likewise the one who persists in
abandoningtheoutwarddeedsforhisentirelifetobeadisbeliever,shouldsuchapersonbefound.
YetinthearticleAmjadsaysonpage35:
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ThentheShaykhmentionssomeproofsandthensaysonthesamepage:
LikewhatwillcomelaterinthehadeethofAbdullhbinShaqq,wherealImmAhmedpointstothereisnothingoftheactions(of
the limbs) that its abandonment is kufr except the prayer. So Ahmed in the booklet had the opinion of performing takfr of the one he
leaves the alh. He brought proof with the hadeeth and with the saying of Abdullh bin Shaqq, Abdullh bin Shaqq said: The
CompanionsoftheProphetradiyaAllhuanhuneverusedtoconsidertheabandonmentofanyoftheactionstobedisbeliefexceptthe
prayer.
IbnTaymiyyahmentionedthatthemajorityofAhlalIlmfromtheabahandothersthanthemleanedtowardstakfroftheonewho
leavesthealh..
HereweseeashShaykhRabacceptingthissayingofAbdullhbinShaqqandusingitasproof.AndashShaykhRabsays
thattheoneswhodontunderstandthesourcesregardingthetakfrontheonewholeavestheprayer,thattheyhavetawilt.As
wewillseeinthediscoursewithAmjadsreasoning.
AshShaykhRabsaidinhisexplanationofAqdatusSelefofasSaboonie,page196:
Andtheauthorsaid:AndAhmedbinHanbalandagroup(jamaa)oftheUlamaoftheSalafperformedtakfronthemdueto
that,(ashShaykhRab:)rathertheabahortheMajorityoftheabahlikethewordsofIbnTaymiyyahproof,theymade
takfrontheonewhodeliberatelyleavesthealh.AndnotjustAhmedbinHanbalandagroup,buttheword(Jamah:group)
possible entitles with the author: The majority of the abah and the majority of the Salaf and the Majority of Ahl al
Hadeeth
Wesayagain:ashShaykhRabreferstotheIjmmentionedSointhepastashShaykhRabmadenoproblemofthisissue.
Wewanttoadd:IfIbnTaymiyyahmadetakfranIjmoftheabahthanitwouldbefairtoacceptthis.BecauseashShaykh
RabmentionsIbnTaymiyyahineveryinstance!
Thiswillalsoproof,whenwerelatethisIjmoftheabahofthebyIbnTaymiyyah,thatAmjadusesunclearkalmfromthis
Immonmorethanoneinstance,whichwewillpointoutwiththewordsofMashyakhandUlamaaofAhlasSunnah.Because
AmjaddidntstudyIbnTaymiyyahsAqdah,hejustwentonahuntingpartyforproofstojustifyhisalabunderstanding.
InthebeginninghereferredtoalalabineveryinstanceandnowherefersbacktoashShaykhRabineveryinstance,asthe
readerwillnotice!
ItisNotPossibletoMakeTawlofTheseadths.ShaykhRabandShaykhalAlbnhavecriticisedthosewhotrytoexplainawaytheadthofintercession
bymakingtawlofitsapparentmeaning.
YetbothashShaykhRabiandalAlbaaniperformtakfeeroftheonewholeavesallactionswiththelimbs!SoaccordingtoAmjadtheyopposethesetextsand
maketaweel?!WhatwillAmjadsay?Ifnotaweelcanbemadewiththesetextsthanthisisaclearcontradiction!Becausehowcanoneacceptthedhaahirof
thehadeethofthebitaaqahandperformtakfeeroftheonewholeavestheprayer,likeashShaykhRabidoes..?Alsoifnota`wilcanbemade,thenhowcan
theysaytheactionsoftheheartarenotincludedintothemeaningofthehadith??
ThisshowsthattheargumentbroughtbyAmjadisweakinrealityandwehopeheleavesoftaweelofthemuhkamspeechofUlama!
Amjadsaysonpage32:
However,whatisclosertoauthenticityisanothernarrationrelatedby alKhalllinalSunnah(4/144),whonarrateswhichhischain
fromAbdullhbinShaqqwhosaid,Wehavenotknownanyoftheactionsaboutwhichithasbeensaidthatitsabandonmentiskufr
excepttheprayer.ShaykhRabsaysthatthereisnoproblemwiththisstatementbecausethereisnoclaimofconsensuswithinit.
Wesay:WhyisthenarrationfromAbdullhbinShaqqaproblemafteralltheseyears?Scholarshavebeenusingthespeechof
IbnShaqqforcenturiesnowandnooneclaimedittobeaf.
Secondly,thescholarswhoareoftheopinionthattheabandonmentofthealhiskufrarenotsolelydependendontheatharof
AbdullhbinShaqqonly,therearemanyotherresourceswhichalsoaffirmthatthereisanIjmregardingthisissue.
ImaamalKhallalsorelatedtheIjm89inhisbookasSunnahrelatedbyJbirbinAbdullh undernr.1379.Thisisthe
riwyahhementioned:
IbnIshaaqsaid:IwasinformedbyAbaanbinSlibinMujhidonauthorityofJbirbinAbdullh Isaidtohim:What
dividedbetweenalkufrandalmnwithyoufromtheactionsinthetimeoftheProphetofAllh?Hesaid:aalh.90
ItwasalsorelatedinasSunnahbyalKhallundernr.1372.Thisistheriwyahhementioned:
FromtherouteofAmedbinanbal,wewereinformedbyamdbinDjafar,wewereinformedbyAwfonauthorityofal
assan, he said: It has reached me that the Companions of the Messenger used to say that between a servant and between him
committingshirk,andhimbecomingakfir,isleavingtheprayerwithoutanexcuse.
AdDawsariesaid:AndthisIsndisauntilalassanandheisalBarieanditiswellknownthatalassanheardfromandmeta
greatnumberoftheabah.
So we think it is at least fair to mention that the Ijm mentioned is also related from other abah and Tbin. We will also
mentionsomeotherpointsofbenefitafterthenextquotewhichwillproofthattheoneswhoholdthattheonewholeavesthe
prayerisakaafirhavemanystrongevidences.
89
Seehereonpage39:http://www.selefienederland.nl/site/files/raf3u%20laa2imah.pdf
RelatedbyIbnBattahinalIbanaah2/672no.876,MohammedbinNasrinTadhiemQadrasSalaah2/877no.892,alLalakaaie4/910no.1538andas
ShaykhalAlbaneedeclareditsisnaadtobehassaninSaheehatTarghiebwatarhieb(byalMundhirie)1/227.
90
Amjadsaysonpage32:
ShaykhRabalsosaysthatwhenonelooksatthebooksmentioningmatttersofconsensus,suchasMartibalIjmofIbnazm,Naqd
MartibalIjmofIbnTaymiyyah,alIqnFMasilalIjm ofIbnalQan,thereisnomentionofthis allegedconsensusaboutthe
abandonmentofprayer.LikewiseitisnotfoundintheworkofIbnalMundhir,alIjm,whoactuallysaysregardingthismatter,Ididnot
find any consensus regarding the (two matters) referring to the issue of the prayer and presence or absence of the kufr of the one who
abandonsit.
AmjadisveryfanaticallyfollowingeachandeverystepthatashShaykhRabmakes.Butheleavesofimportantfactsbecause
Amjadsgoalistoprotecthisvisionfromtheyear2000untilnow,andnottoarriveatthetruth.
IbnHazm,althoughheindeeddidntmentiontheIjminhisbookregardingmattersofconsensushedidsay:Ithascomeon
authorityofUmar,AbdurRamnbinAwf,MudhbinJabalandAbiHurayrahandothersfromtheabah :Thattheonewho
leavesoneobligatoryprayerdeliberatelyuntilitstimegoesby,thantheisaKfirmurtadandwedontknowbetweentheseabahwho
opposesthem.AlMuall2/242
SoIbnHazmclearlymentionedthattheabahdidperformtakfr,andhementionedseveralofthemandhedoesnotknowof
anykhilf.Thisisastrongproofinitself.
Thenwealsohavetotakeintoaccount:ThatAmjadmentionssomebooksofFiqhandIjmtwhichdontmentionthisIjm.
Butweshouldhavetoexaminthesebooks:DotheyspeakaboutIjmoftheFoqahortheabah?AnddotheydenytheIjm
oftheabah?BecausebooksofAqdahlikeasSunnahofalKhall,UsoolasSunnahofalImmAmed,SharUsoolItiqdAhl
asSunnah by alLlak, Tadhm Qadr asSalaah from alMarwaz, alIbnah alKubr of Ibn Battah, alImn of Ibn Abi
Shaybah, alMussanaf of Imaam Abd arRazzq, and many others do indeed mention the Ijm of the abah and they also
mentiontheriwytoftheabahandtheTbinregardingthisissue.
SothesebooksareclosertothetimeoftheabahandtheSalaf,andtheyaddadditionalinformation;Riwytonauthorityof
theabahandtheTbin.AsSalafiyynweshouldreturntotheSalaf!Andinthefirstplacetheabah!
LetalonethatShaykhulIslmIbnTaymiyyahalsoclearlymentionsthisIjm,aswillfollownow!
WewillnowquotefromthebeautifulbookalmnindaasSalaf.WhichwillshowthattheIjmrelatedfromtheabah
come from many different sources. This excellent book authored by ashShaykh Moammed bin Mamoud alGhadr has an
introductionbythelateAllmahAbdullhalAqlQ(from1428hidjrie,over7yearsago!!!)consistsof2volumesand
over800pages.
AlGhadralsoreferstotheIjmoftheabahregardingleavingtheprayer.Wewillquotesomeproofswhichwillshowthat
Ahl asSunnah are not depended solely on the saying of Ibn Shaqq, although it is authentic, and that there are many other
proofs.
Onpage365:
1.
Jbir bin Abdullh Mujahid bin Djabr asked him what did divide between alkufr and almn with you from the
actionsinthetimeoftheProphetofAllh?Hesaid:Asalh.91
AshShaykhasSinniethencomeswithapointofbenefitandsaysinpage1192:
AndfromtherouteofAbiZubayr,heheardJbirbinAbdullhbeingaskedbyaman:Didyouconsiderasinwith
youkufr?Hesaid:No,andthereisnothingbetweenaservantandkufr,exceptleavingasSalah.
(AsSinaani)Anditsisnaadissaheeh,andJaabiristhenarratorofthehadeethalmarfooonauthorityoftheProphetfor
thekufroftheonewholeavesasalhin(thebookof)Muslim.Sointhefirsttextheattributesthekufrtotheonewho
leavesthealhandthatitisthedistinctionbetweenalkufrandalmntothetimeoftheProphetsallAllhualayhiwassallam
andtheabahandthishastherulingofalmarfoo(i.e.attributedtotheProphet)likeitiswellestablishedinitssubjectinthe
booksofUloomalHadeethandinitsrulingisthementioningoftheIjmbetweentheabah.
Asforthesecondtextitpointswithaveryclearproof,inwhichthereisnoambiguityinit,thatheconsideredtheabandonment
oftheprayertobefromalkufralakbar,becausehemadeadistinctionbetweenitandbetweenandadhDhanb(sin)bywhicha
person doesnt commit kufr. So it is obligatory to understand his hadeeth almarfoo (i.e. the hadeeth Between a man and
betweenkufrandshirkisleavingtheprayer)withthismeaning.Withthefactthatherelated,thekufroftheonewholeaves
theprayerfrom16abah,andthereisnoopposertothemknownfromthem.AndhereIwillmentionasmallpoint(ofbenefit)
whichwasmentionedbyIbnRajabin(JaamialUloomwalHikam1/91)whenhesaid:AhmedandIshaaqbroughtprooffor
the kufr of the one who leaves the prayer with the kufr of Iblies with the abandonment of the prostration for Adam, and
abandoningtheprostrationforAllhisworse.
2.
AbuHurayrahAbdullhbinShaqqrelatesonauthorityofAbieHurayrathathesaid:TheCompanionsoftheProphet
neverusedtoconsidertheabandonmentofanyoftheactionstobedisbeliefexcepttheprayer)).9394
91
RelatedbyIbnBattahinalIbaanah2/672no.876,MohammedbinNasrinTadhiemQadrasSalaah2/877no.892,alLalakaaie4/910no.1538andas
ShaykhalAlbaneedeclareditsisnaadtobehassaninSaheehatTarghiebwatarhieb(byalMundhirie)1/227.
92
AqwaalDhawialArfaan.
93
SoAbdullahbinShaqeeqrelatesthisinhisownwording,whichAmjadseesasdaeef,butalsofromthewordingdirectfromAbuHurayra.Thiscertainly
strengthensitsmeaning!
94
RelatedbyalHaakiminalMustadrak1/48andhesaid:ItisaccordingtheconditionsofashShaykhaynandthenmentionedthehadeethofalBuraydahThe
covenant between us and between them is asSalaah, and who leaves it becomes a kafir. He then said: And for this hadeeth is a shaahid saheeh (an
authenticsupportingproof)accordingtoboththeirconditions(BukhaariandMuslim).
ItwasasifadhDhahabididntpayattentiontothewordsofalHaakimbeforeforhesaid:Theydidntspreakaboutit,anditsIsnaadisSaalih.
3.
AlassanalBasrie.Hesaid:IthasreachedmethattheCompanionsoftheProphetusedtosay:Betweentheservantand
betweenhimperformingshirkandthencommittingkufr,isthatheleavesasalhwithoutanyexcuse)).95
4.
AbullaahbinShaqq.((TheCompanionsoftheProphetneverusedtoconsidertheabandonmentofanyoftheactionstobe
disbeliefexcepttheprayer)).96
5.
AyyoubasSakhtiyn.Hesaid:Leavingtheprayeriskufr,thereisnodifferenceofopinionaboutthis.97
6.
IsqbinRahyah.AlImmMohammedbinNasrsaid:IheardIshaaqsay:Itisauthenticallyreportedonauthorityofthe
MessengerofAllh,thattheonewholeavesthealhisakfir,andsowastheopinionofAhlalIlmfromthetimeoftheProphet
untilthisdayofours,thatwillfullyleavingoftheprayerwithoutanexcuseuntilitstimepasses,isakfir.98
Ibn Rajab said: And many of the Ulama of Ahl aladth have the opinion of takfr of the one who leaves the prayer. And
IshaaqbinRahyahhasrelatedanIjmfromthem,sofarthatheconsideredthesayingoftheonewhosays:Onedoesnt
becomeadisbelieverbyleavingtheseArkaan(alIslaam),whileaffirmingitsobligation,tobefromthesayingsofthe
Murjiah.AndthiswasalsosaidbySufyaanIbnUyaynah99100
Isq bin Rahyah101 also said (Fat alBr 1/21): The Murjiah fell in extremism, so far that of their sayings became:
That people say: Whoever leaves the prescribed prayers and the fasting of arRamadaan, and azZakaat and alHajj and the
general Faraaid without denying its obligation, we dont declare this one an unbeliever, we leave his case to Allh for later,
becauseheacknowledges(itsobligation),theseonesaretheoneswehavenodoubtin,yanie,thattheyareMurjiah.IbnRajab
said:Whatisapparentisthathemakestakfrofleavingthesefaraaid.
7.
MuammedbinNasralMarwazi.Hesaid:AndwementionedinthisbookofourswheretheBookofAllhuatTaaalaand
theSunnahofHisMessengerpointtofromthemagnificationofthepositionofasalh,andthefulfillmentofthepromisewith
therewardfortheonewhoperformsit,andmagnificationofthethreatupontheonewhoneglectsit.Anddifferencebetweenit
andbetweenalltheotheractionsinexcellence,anditsgreatposition.Thenwementionedtherelatedreportsonauthorityofthe
Prophet sallAllhu alayhi wa sallam about declaring the one who leaves it to be kfir, and his removent from the millah
(religion)andthepermissibilityinkillingtheonewhorefusestoperformit.Thenthesameasthatcametousonauthorityofthe
Sahabah,andnothingdifferencetothatcametousfromthem.102
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RelatedbyIbnBattah:2/673andalLaalakaaìe4/910no.1539.
RelatedbyatTirmidhie(2757),IbnAbiShaybahinalImaanno.137andalMussanif6/172andMuhammedbinNasr2/904no.948anddeclaredsaheehby
alAlbanee in Saheeh atTarghieb atTarheeb 564. AshShawkaani said: What is apparent from its wording is that the Sahaabah had consensus over these
wordsbecausehesaid:TheCompanionsoftheProphetusedto
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MuhammedbinNasr2/960no.978anddeclaredsaheehbyAlAlbaaniinsaheehattarghieb1/230.
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TadhiemQadrasSalah2/929no.990.
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FathalBaarifromIbnRajab1/22
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AshShaykh asShibl said in his book about the Aqeedah of Ibn Rajab: Thisissue has been mentioned by alHaafidh Ibn Rajab in his explanation of the
hadith of Abdullaah bin Umar, radi Allaahu anhu about the Arkaan alIslaam, so he said: And theestablishment of the prayer, many ahadith have been
transmittedwhichproofthattheonewholeavesit,expelsfromtheIslaam,andinSaheehMuslimonauthorityofDjaabir,radiAllaahuanhu,onauthorityof
thePhrophet,sallallaahoealaayhiwasallam,hesaid:Betweenamanandbetweenalkufrandashshirkisleavingtheprayer,andthesameasthishasbeen
transmittedinthehadeethfromBuraydaandThawbaanandAnasandothersthanthem
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ImalSinninAqwlDhawalUrfnpage46,thisnottakenfromthebookalImnindaasSalaf,IusedittostrengthenthewordsofbothIshaaqbin
RahoyahandIbnRajab!BecauseAmjadtriestouseIbnRajabasaproof!
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8.
IbnTaymiyyah:Hesaidinclarifyingtheproofsforthetakfroftheonewholeavesthealh,afterhementionedthe
proofsfromtheBookandtheSunnahandclarifyingthatitistherelatedstatementfromtheMajorityoftheSalaf.He
said:BecausethisistheIjmoftheabah,andUmarsaid,whenitwassaidtohim,andhewentouttoasalh:Yesthere
isnopartinalIslaamfortheonewholeavesthealhanditsstoryisinasSaheeh,andinareportfromhim,hesaid:
There is no Islaam for the one who doesnt pray. Related by AnNajjaad. And he said this in the presence of the
abah.103104
Therearemanymoreresources,butwewillsufficewiththesebecauseAmjadchosesomeoftheseUlamaspecificallytospread
his understanding as will follow! Please note: AshShaykh Rab refered to Ibn Taymiyyah many times claiming that Ibn
TaymiyyahdidnotrelatetheIjmoftheabahbutonlythemajorityofthem,whereasitisclearthatIbnTaymiyyahspeaks
aboutanIjmoftheabah!
Whatalsoprovesthatthisnarrationusedtoclaimaconsensusisnotcorrectisthatitisfactuallyincorrect.Thisisbecauseitisfirmly
establishedthatmanyoftheCompanionsmadetakfronthebasisofotherpillars.
We say: Has an Ijm been related by any of the Scholars regarding these pillars or from the abah regarding one of these
pillars?Ifnot,andthisiswhatweknowforsure,thanAmjadhashisanswer.Becausethewordingsweprovidedclearlystress
thedistinctionoftheprayerinthisregard!AndwedohopethatAmjaddoesntdeclareallofthepreviousmentionedevidences
incorrectbaseduponhislimitedandpollutedaql!BecausethenaqlcomesbeforetheaqlandtheMadhhaboftheSalafisaslam
(safer), Alam (more knowledgeable) and Akam (more wise)! Amjads manner of reasoning isnt the methodology of the
scholarsintreatingthisissue,eventhosewhofollowtheopinionthattheonewholeavestheprayerisntakfir.MayAllhguide
AmjadtotheMadhhaboftheSalaf.
ItisrelatedthatUmarbinalKhabconsideredtheonewhodidnotmakeajj,despitebeingable,tobeadisbeliever.Likewise,itis
relatedfromIbnAbbsthatwhoeverabandonedfastingwasadisbelieverandsimilarlytheonewhohadplentyofwealthbutdidnotgive
zakhorperformajj.ItisalsorelatedfromAbdullhbinUmarthattheonewhodidnotperformajj,despitewealthandhealth,isa
disbeliever.Andsimilarly,itisrelatedfromAbdullhbinMasdthattheonewhoabandonszakhisnotaMuslim.
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PleasecomparetothissayingofIbnTaymiyyahthisquotefromIbnQudamahfromalMughni(2/310)whenhespokeabouttheprohibitionofbuyingtax
paidland:
AndthisisthesayingofUmarinfrontoftheMuhadjireenandtheAnsaar,inthepresenceofthedominantSahabaaandtheirAimaa,andtheyshowedno
opposition,soitwasanIjmaaanditisnotpossibletofindanIjmaastrongerthanthisandresemblingit,becausethereisnowaytoconveythesayingofall
theSahabaainanissueandnotinconveyingthesayingoften(ofthem)andthereisnoIjmaaexceptforthesayingwhichiswidespread.
Letalonethattherearemanysupportingfactorswhichwealreadyrelated!
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SharhalUmdafromIbnTaymiyah2/75.
Wesay:SoaccordingtoAmjadallthesenobleabahopposedthedhhirmeaningoftheahdthhemisusestoproofthatthe
onewhodoesntactwiththelimbsisstillaMuslim.
StillthisisthewayofhowAmjadtriestoargue!Wesay:TheseabahareMujtahidnwhomadeIjtihd,andwereturntheir
differencebacktotheBookandtheSunnah.
DoesAmjadalsomakeitobligatorytofollowUmarinthisinstancebecausehewasfromtheKhulafarRshidn?Liketheydo
withtheissueoftheadhnofUthmn ?ClaiminganIjmonthisissue,whilenoclearIjmisestablishedatall!!Ratherthe
opposite has been established, and scholars like Ibn Taymiyyah and dam althiyb affirm that it is an issue of ijtihaad not
Ijm!!StillAmjadandthelikesofhimtrytoclaimanIjm,whereasintheissueoftheabandonmentoftheprayertheytryto
denyaclearIjmoftheabahwithnoclearproofatall.Sothismakesitclearthattheyareonlyfollowingtheirwhimps,and
arenotattheleastfollowingaknowledgebasedmethodology.
Instead of trying to find fault with this Ijm, Amjad should study the subject firstly and afterwards build an understanding!
Nowhejust searches forwaysoutof his Irj!Because he mentioned theIjtihdofIbn Abbs,Umar,Ibn Masdandallof
theseabahperformedtakfroftheonewhoabandonstheprayer,likeashShaykhIsmasSinnpointsoutinAqwlDhaw
alArfnpage13andherefersbacktoIbnQayyimalJawziyyahandhisbookaalhwaokmtrikuh!SowhydoesAmjad
lookforshubuhtinsteadofclearwordsofthesameabahheuses?
Hethensaysonpage32:
SimilarlyhowcanthisnarrationofAbdullhbinShaqqbereconciledwiththedisbeliefofthosewhowithheldthezakhandwerefought
andkilledforit.AbYalcitestheconsensusthatkufrwasascribedtothemandtheywerefoughtforwithholdingthezakh,despitetheir
affirmationofitsobligation.
We say: Because the abah differed in the beginning of this specific event like Umar , who in the beginning disagreed
with Abu Bakr ! After Abu Bakr spoke to him he accepted Abu Bakrs vision and followed this! Some scholars also
mentionthisasaproofforthekufroftheonewholeavesaalhbecauseAbuBakrmadeqiyswithaalh!
TheabaharementionedintheatharofIbnShaqqasawholeandtheonewhoaffirmsazZakaatanddoesntpayit,isnta
kfiraccordingtotherevelation!InthisinstancetheseMurtaddnwerefoughtbecausetheydidntwanttopaytheZakteven
after being fought for it! But in other circumstances one does not become a kfir for not paying the zakat while affirming its
obligation!
Inaddition:ThetextsfromtheQurnandtheSunnahclearlyprovethatleavingtheprayeriskufrfromthefoundation;thisis
againanimportantdifference!Amjadmakesonespecificeventinaspecificperiodgeneralandthenmakeaqiysbil!
Amjadsaysonpage32:
The above considerations show that the narration of Abdullh bin Shaqq in which a consensus is claimed is not established as being
authenticfirstly,andthenitscontentsareinconflictwithwhatisestablishedthroughotherroutesthatindeedtheCompanionswouldmake
takfrofthosewhoabandonedotherpillarsbesidestheprayer.Thisallegedconsensusisfromthestrongestofevidencesusedbythosewho
maketakfroftheonewhoabandonsprayer,anditsproblemsarecleartosee.
We say: The narration of Abullah bin Shaqq is authentic and this was also established by ashShaykh Rab in the past in
several of his books. Amjad only mentions this to escape from this point! He then resorts to taweel and opposes ashShaykh
Rabbecausehedeclarestheonewholeavestheprayertobeakfir!
ThistakfrofleavingtheprayerhasbeenestablishedbytheQurn,theSunnahandthenarrationsofmanyotherabahwho
alsospreadthisIjmandbyTbinwhoalsoconfirmthisashasproceeded!
WhenitcomestotheotherpillarstakfrhasonlybeenperformedbyindividualabahandnotlikeaalhonwhichIjmis
relatedfromthemspecifically!LetalonethattheabahwhichAmjadtriestousealsoindividuallyperformedtakfrontheone
wholeavesaalh!ThisproofsthewrongqiysandunderstandingofAmjad!Anditevendestroyshisopinionthattheone
who leaves off all the action with the limbs can still be a muslim, because it has been related from the abah that they
performedtakfronleavingoneorsomeofthearkn,thisiswheretheydifferedabout,andonthealhIjmhasbeenrelated
accordingtothestrongestopinion,sohowcanitbepossiblethattherewhereabahwhowouldnotperformtakfronsomeone
wholeavesofalltheactionsofthelimbs!!ThiscannotbeimaginedexceptbyaMurjibrain.
ThenAmjadsaysonpage32:
Thisnowleadsustoadiscussionoftheadthsofintercessionwhichareaproofforthosewhoholdabandonmentofprayerisnotmajor
kufr.
Wesay:Also,accordingtoAmjad,aprooffortheopinionthat:TheonewholeavesallactionsofthelimbscanbeMuslim.Because
thedhhir(outwardmeaning)oftheadthprovesthisaccordingtoalalabandAmjad.ThiswhilealAlbaaniandashShaykh
Rabbothperformtakfrontheonewholeavesallactionswiththelimbs!SothisclearlyprovesAmjadsgoalandhegoes
evenfurtherthanhedidinthepastwhenheblindlyfollowedalalab!
SowhydoyouwantustoblindlyfollowyourunderstandinganddoyoumakefollowingsomeScholarsobligatory?Because
you oppose each and every Scholar you mention and you build wal and bar on it! And on top of that you try to declare
authentictextsincorrectbyusingyourlimitedandpollutedaqlandyousearchforevidencestoaidyourpredefinedItiqd
insteadoftaslm(surrendering)tothetruthandthecleartextsfromtheBookandtheSunnahaccordingtothecomprehensionof
theSalaf.
AmjadandtheadthofashShafah
AfteralengthydiscoursefilledwithfallaciesAmjadstartsdefendinghisfellowpartymemberintheNetherlandsAbuAbdillh
Bouchta,andhesays:
Thus,theviewthatbrotherAbAbdullhBouchtaheldandspokeofinwhatyouquotedfromhisspeechisanacceptableviewanditis
expressed by Scholars past and present such as Ibn Rajab alanbal and Imm alAlbn and others and there is no basis for the
accusationofIrjuponthisview,asthereisverystrongtextualevidenceforthisviewwhichisveryhardtorefute.Thissayingdoesnot
inanywaynegateonesviewthatmnisbeliefintheheart,actionsofthelimbandsayingofthetongue.Asfortheclaimoftheajwirah
adddiyyah that this view is severe misguidance, then they should refute the adth of the Messenger () in regard to the evil
sinnerswhodidnogoodatall(despitehavingtheability)andwillberemovedbyintercession,withoutresortingtoerroneous
tawls and rejecting the dhhir of the adth. They will not do so except by relying upon a tawl similar to those made by the
AsharitesfortheadthsoftheAttributes.TheyshouldalsorefutethemanyScholars,pastandpresent,inwhosestatementsthismeaning
canbefound,andShaykhRabhaslistedmanyoftheminhisvariousarticlesinrefutationoftheadddiyyah.
Like we stated before in the introduction of this article: We will not be answering every single point Abu Ind brings up in his
Aristoteliandiscourse.ItssufficienttoanswerthemainpillarswherehisphantasmsarebuiltuponSowewillonlyanswerthemain
argumentsAbuIndbringsupinthisissueoftheadthofashShafah.
Sofirstofall,Amjadclaimsafewthingsinthissubject:
TheadthofashShafahmustbeunderstoodonitsdhhirmeaning,andnotawl whatsoever can be made.
The dhhirmeaningoftheadthaccordingtoAmjadisthattheevilsinnerswhodidnogoodatall(despitehavingthe
ability)willberemovedfromtheHellfirebyintercession.
Thattheviewtheevilsinnerswhodidnogoodatall(despitehavingtheability)willberemovedfromtheHellfire
byintercessionhasnobasisfortheaccusationofIrj upon the one who holds this opinion.
Inordertorefutetheseclaimswewillreturntothescholars:
So Amjad claims that the adth of ashShafah must be understood on its dhhir meaning, and this dhhir meaning Amjad is
talking about leads to the opinion that the evil sinners who did no good at all (despite having the ability) will be removed
fromtheHellfirebyintercessionSothissimplymeansthatonecanhaveacorrectmnwithoutanyactionsofthelimbs,and
evenworse,withoutanyactionsoftheheartalso!!Sincethatiswhattheapparentmeaningoftheadthsays(accordingtothe
methodologyofAmjadinunderstandingthemutashbihtexts),theadthsays:
Then Allh, the Mighty and Majestic will say, The Angels have interceded, the Prophets have interceded, the Believers have
interceded,andnoneremainsbutthemostmercifulofthosewhoshowmercy.ThenahandfulwillbetakenfromtheFire,andapeople
willexit(theFire)whohadnotdoneanygoodwhatsoever.
Soifnotawlistobemade,thenthewordswhohadnotdoneanygoodwhatsoever.Includesallthegoodactions,ofthe
heartandthetongueandthelimbs!?NowevenAmjadandthelikesofhimdontbelievethattheonewholeavesoftheactions
oftheheartandthetongueisstillamuslim,sowhereisthedhhirmeaningoftheadthAmjadistalkingabout?Iftheycansay
that any good only refers to the actions of the limbs and not to the actions of the heart and the tongue, then they are
performingtawl,sowhereistheirtawlbuildupon??ItsbuildupontheirMurjiMadhhabandnotupontheunderstandingof
AhlasSunnah,whoreturnthemutashbihtextstothemukamtextsinordertocometotherightunderstanding.
SowhenitcomestotheadthofAbuSaidalKhudriinMusliminwichthefollowingismentioned:
By the One in Whose hand is my life, there will be none among you more eager to claim a right than the believers on the Day of
Resurrection for (saying their) brethren in the Fire who would say: O our Lord, they were fasting along with us, and praying and
performingpilgrimage.Itwillbesaidtothem:Takeoutthosewhomyourecognise.ThentheirpersonswouldbeforbiddentotheFire;and
theywouldtakeoutalargenumberofpeoplewhohadbeenovertakenbyFireuptothemiddleoftheshankoruptotheknees.Theywould
thensay:OourLordInotoneofthoseaboutwhomThoudidstgiveuscommandremainsinit.Hewillthensay:Gobackandbringout
thoseinwhoseheartsyoufindgoodoftheweightofadinarThentheywilltakeoutalargenumberofpeople.Thentheywouldsay:Oour
Lord!wehavenotleftanyoneaboutwhomYoucommandedus.Hewillthensay:Gobackandbringoutthoseinwhoseheartsyoufindas
muchashalfadinarofgood.Thentheywilltakeoutalargenumberofpeople,andwouldsay:OourLord!notoneofthoseaboutwhom
Thoucommandeduswehaveleftinit.ThenHewouldsay:Gobackandinwhoseheartyoufindgoodtotheweightofaparticlebringhim
out.Theywouldbringoutalargenumberofpeople,andwouldthensay:OourLord,nowwehavenotleftanyoneinit(Hell)havingany
goodinhim.
AbuSaidKhudrisaid:Ifyoudonttestifymeinthisadth,thenreciteifyoulike:SurelyAllahwrongsnottheweightofanatom;andif
itisagooddeed.HemultipliesitandgivesfromHimselfagreatreward(alQuran,iv.40).
ThenAllah,ExaltedandGreat,wouldsay:Theangelshaveinterceded,theapostleshaveintercededandthebelievershaveinterceded,and
no one remains (to grant pardon) but the Most Merciful of the mercifuls. He will then take a handful from Fire and bring out from it
people who never did any good and who had been turned into charcoal, and will cast them into a river called the river of life, on the
outskirtsofParadise.Theywillcomeoutasaseedcomescutfromthesiltcarriedbyflood.Youseeitnearthestoneornearthetree.That
whichisexposedtothesunisyellowishorgreenishandwhichisundertheshadeiswhite.Theysaid:MessengerofAllah!Itseemsasif
youhadbeentendingaflockinthejungle.He(theHolyProphet)said:Theywillcomeforthlikepearlswithsealsontheirnecks.
TheauthorofIjtimAimmatuAhlisSunnahwithintroductionfromalImaamMuqbilsays:
Thepointofevidencewiththem(theNeoMurjiah)inusingtheadthofashShafahisthatintheadththefirstgroupthat
istakenouttheywerefastingalongwithus,andprayingandperformingpilgrimage.Itwillbesaidtothem:Takeoutthosewhomyou
recognise.ThentheirpersonswouldbeforbiddentotheFire;andtheywouldtakeoutalargenumberofpeopleAndtheseonesarethe
Musallun(thosewhousedtopray),sothosewhoaretakenoutafterthemarenotoftheirsort,i.e.theydidnotpray:They
wouldthensay:OourLordInotoneofthoseaboutwhomThoudidstgiveuscommandremainsinit.Hewillthensay:Gobackandbring
outthoseinwhoseheartsyoufindgoodoftheweightofadinarThey(theNeoMurjiah)say:ThisproofsthattheMussalinwere
alreadytakenoutandnoonefromthemremained,andthatthosewhoaretakenoutfromtheother(remaining)groupsthey
arenotfromtheMussallin.
Andtheanswer(tothis)is,thatthenarrationfromthisroutewithMusliminitthereisagreatishkal,firstlyitisinopposition
towhathascomeinalBukhaari,andbothnarrationshavecomefrom(theroute)ofZaydibnAslamfromAtaaibnYasaar
fromAbiSaeedalKhudri.
SoinSahihalBukharifromtherouteofSadibnAbiHilaalfromZaydfromAtaaibnYasaarfromAbiSadalKhudrithat
hesaid:Wesaid,OMessengerofAllaah,willweseeourLordontheDayofResurrection?[]Theywillsay,OLord,ourbrothers
usedtopraywithusandfastwithusanddogooddeedswithus.Allaahwillsay,Go,andwhoeveryoufindwithadinarsweightoffaith
inhisheart,bringhimforth,andAllaahwillforbidtheirbodiestotheFire.Sotheywillgo,andsomeofthemwillbesinkingintotheFire
uptotheirfeetorshins,andtheywillbringforththosewhomtheyrecognize.Thentheywillcomeback,andHewillsay,Go,andwhoever
youfindwithhalfadinarsweightoffaithinhisheart,bringhimforth.Sotheywillgoandbringforththosewhomtheyrecognize.Then
theywillcomeback,andHewillsay,Go,andwhoeveryoufindwithanatomsweightoffaithinhisheart,bringhimforth.Sotheywill
go and bring forth those whom they recognize. Abu Saeed said: If you do not believe me, then read the verse interpretation of the
meaning):
Surely,Allaahwrongsnotevenoftheweightofanatom(orasmallant),
butifthereisanygood(done),Hedoublesit,andgivesfromHimagreatreward
[alNisa4:40].
[The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:] So the Prophets, the angels and the believers will intercede, and the
Compeller (Allaah) will say, There remains My intercession. Then He will take a handful from the Fire and bring forth some people
whosebodieshavebeenburntandthrowthemintoariverattheentrancetoParadisethatiscalledtheWaterofLife.
Theywillgrowonitsbanks,asaseedcarriedbyafloodgrows.Youhaveseenhowitgrowsbesidearockorbesideatree,andhowtheside
facingthesunisusuallygreenwhilethesidefacingtheshadeiswhite.Theywillcomeoutlikepearls,andnecklaceswillbeplacedaround
theirnecks.ThentheywillenterParadise,andthepeopleofParadisewillsay,ThesearethepeopleemancipatedbytheMostMerciful.He
hasadmittedthemintoParadisewithoutthemhavingdoneanygooddeedsandwithoutthemhavingsentforthanygood(forthemselves).
Thenitwillbesaidtothem,Youwillhavewhatyouhaveseenandtheequivalentthereof.
Sointhisnarrationthereisaclarificationthatthefirstgroupthatistakenoutdoesnotdifferfromthoseafterthatexceptin
thelevelsofalImaan.Theywillsay,OLord,ourbrothersusedtopraywithusandfastwithusanddogooddeedswithus.Allaah
willsay,Go,andwhoeveryoufindwithadinarsweightoffaithinhisheart,bringhimforth,TheHesaysregardingthesecond
group:Go,andwhoeveryoufindwithhalfadinarsweightoffaithinhisheart,bringhimforth.Sotheywillgoandbringforththose
whomtheyrecognize.Thentheywillcomeback,andHewillsay,Go,andwhoeveryoufindwithanatomsweightoffaithinhisheart,
bring him forth. So they will go and bring forth those whom they recognize. So in this narration it becomes apparent that all of
themwerefromAhlasSalaah(thepeoplewhoperformedtheprayer),becausetheyrecognizedthemfromthetracesofthe
sujood,theFiredoesnoteatit,likewillcomelater.SotheonlydifferencebetweenthemisinthelevelofalImaan,andnotthe
notionthatsomeofthemarefromAhlasSalaahandtheothergroupsarenotfromAhlasSalaah,likebecomesapparentin
thenarrationofMuslim.Sointhisnarrationitissaidindescribingthefirstgroup:andwhoeveryoufindwithadinarsweight
of faith in his heart And the second : and whoever you find with half a dinarsweight of faith in his heart and the third : and
whoeveryoufindwithanatomsweightoffaithinhisheartAndthisisclear,notallthepeoplewhoprayareoftheonelevelof
alImaan,soitbecomesapparentfromthis thatthosewhomaretakenout thatallofthemarefromAhlasSalaah,andthe
onlydifferencebetweentheisinthelevelofalImaan.
And this is strengtend and emphasized with what has come in Sahih alBukhari in Kitaab arRiqaaq and Kitab atTawhid
fromAbuHurayrahinthementioningofthehadiethashShafaaah,theProphetsawsaid:
whenAllahhasfinishedthejudgmentsamongHisslaves,andintendstotakeoutoftheFirewhoeverHewishestotake
outfromamongthosewhousedtotestifythatnonehadtherighttobeworshippedbutAllah.
Wewillordertheangelstotakethemoutandtheangelswillknowthembythemarkofthetracesofprostration(ontheir
foreheads)forAllahbannedthefiretoconsumethetracesofprostrationonthebodyofAdamsson.Sotheywilltakethem
out,andbythentheywouldhaveburnt(ascoal),andthenwater,calledMaulHayat(wateroflife)willbepouredonthem,
andtheywillspringoutlikeaseedspringsoutonthebankofarainwaterstream,andtherewillremainonemanfromthem
who will be facing the (Hell) Fire and will say, O Lord! Its (Hells) vapor has Poisoned and smoked me and its flame has
burntme;pleaseturnmyfaceawayfromtheFire.HewillkeeponinvokingAllahtillAllahsays,Perhaps,ifIgiveyouwhat
youwant),youwillaskforanotherthing?Themanwillsay,No,byYourPower,IwillnotaskYouforanythingelse.
ThenAllahwillturnhisfaceawayfromtheFire.Themanwillsayafterthat,OLord,bringmenearthegateofParadise.
Allahwillsay(tohim),Didntyoupromisenottoaskforanythingelse?Woetoyou,OsonofAdam!Howtreacherousyou
are!ThemanwillkeeponinvokingAllahtillAllahwillsay,ButifIgiveyouthat,youmayaskmeforsomethingelse.The
manwillsay,No,byYourPower.Iwillnotaskforanythingelse.HewillgiveAllahhiscovenantandpromisenottoaskfor
anythingelseafterthat.SoAllahwillbringhimneartothegateofParadise,andwhenheseeswhatisinit,hewillremain
silentaslongasAllahwill,andthenhewillsay,OLord!LetmeenterParadise.Allahwillsay,Didntyoupromisethatyou
wouldnotaskMeforanythingotherthanthat?Woetoyou,OsonofAdam!Howtreacherousyouare!Onthat,themanwill
say,OLord!DonotmakemethemostwretchedofYourcreation,andwillkeeponinvokingAllahtillAllahwillsmileand
whenAllahwillsmilebecauseofhim,thenHewillallowhimtoenterParadise,andwhenhewillenterParadise,hewillbe
addressed,Wishfromsoandso.Hewillwishtillallhiswisheswillbefulfilled,thenAllahwillsay,Allthis(i.e.whatyou
havewishedfor)andasmuchagaintherewithareforyou.
AbuHurairaadded:ThatmanwillbethelastofthepeopleofParadisetoenter(Paradise).
NarratedAt(whileAbuHurairawasnarrating):AbuSaidwassittinginthecompanyofAbuHurairaandhedidnotdeny
anythingofhisnarrationtillhereachedhissaying:Allthisandasmuchagaintherewithareforyou.ThenAbuSaidsaid,I
heardAllahsApostlesaying,Thisisforyouandtentimesasmuch.AbuHurairasaid,Inmymemoryitisasmuchagain
therewith.
Soponderonhissaying:intendstotakeoutoftheFirewhoeverHewishestotakeoutfromamongthosewhousedtotestifythatnone
hadtherighttobeworshippedbutAllah.andhissaying:ThatmanwillbethelastofthepeopleofParadisetoenter(Paradise)..It
willbecomeverycleartoyouthatallofthosewhoaretakenoutarefromAhlasSalaah,andnooneafterthemwillbetaken
outbecauseofhissayingandtherewillremainonemanfromthemwhowillbefacingthe(Hell)Fire[]thatmanwillbethelastof
thepeopleofParadisetoenter(Paradise).Hissayingfromthempointstothefactthatheisfromthosewhoareknownbythe
tracesofprostration,andhissayingthelastofthepeopleofParadisetoenter(Paradise).i.e.thatnooneafterhimwillcomeout.
AndinrealitythenarrationofAbiHurayrahisconsideredasummaryoftheadthofAbiSad;alBukhrrelatedtousthe
speechofAt,thenarratoroftheadthofAbiSadthathesaid:
Atnarrated(whileAbuHurairawasnarrating): AbuSaidwassittingin thecompanyof Abu Hurairaandhedidnot

changeanythingofhisnarrationtillhereachedhissaying:ThisisforyouandthesameamountwithitThenAbuSaidsaid,I
heardAllahsApostlesaying,Thisisforyouandtentimesasmuchwithit.AbuHurairasaid,Imemorizedandthesameamount
withit.
AbuSaddidnotcorrectAbuHurayraexceptatthisphrase,thispointstothefactthatthenarrationofAbiHurayrahisin
agreementwiththenarrationofAbiSadinmeaning.Andthisiswhatwehavememorized.Sinceiftherewassomeonewho
wouldcomeout(oftheFire)notbeingfromthepeopleofthesign(ofprostration),thancorrectingthisfrom Abu Hurayra
wouldtakeprecedenceoverhissaying:Thisisforyouandtentimesasmuchwithit..
AndthereforeIsaythattheadthashShafahinthesaiaynisfromthestrongestevidencesforthekufrofabandoningthe
alh,likeitsclarificationhaspreceded,thisisaidedbywhathascomeinthetwoearliernarrationsinaialBukhr,andit
ismentionedinit,likeintheadthofAbiSad,whatindicatesthatthosewhodidnotpraywillentertheFiretogetherwith
thekuffrandthemushrikn,beforecrossingtheSir,andnoonecrossestheSirexcepttheMualln,eveniftheiralhwas
riy.ItcomesinaiMuslim:
ThenallwhoworshippedidolsandstonesbesidesAllahwouldfallintotheFire,tillonlytherighteousandtheviciousareleftTheLord
oftheUniverse,GlorifiedandExalted,wouldcometotheminaformrecognisabletothemandthethingswouldbelaidbare.Those
whousedtoprostratethemselvesbeforeGodoftheirownaccordwouldbepermittedbyGodtoprostratethemselves.Buttherewould
remainnonewhousedtoprostrateoutoffear(ofpeople)andostentationbutAllahwouldmakehisbackasonepiece,andwheneverhe
wouldattempttoprostratehewouldfallonhisback.ThentheywouldraisetheirheadsandHewouldassumetheForminwhichthey
hadseenHimthefirsttimeandwouldsay:IamyourLord.Theywouldsay:ThouartourLord.Thenthebridgewouldbesetupover
theHellandintercessionwouldbeallowed
AsforwhathascomeinthenarrationofAbiSadinMuslim:
Theangelshaveinterceded,theapostleshaveintercededandthebelievershaveinterceded,andnooneremains(tograntpardon)but
theMostMercifulofthemercifuls.HewillthentakeahandfulfromFireandbringoutfromitpeoplewhoneverdidanygood
Then (the fact is that) Muslim is alone with this phrase without alBukhr, and its from the criticized phrases (look in al
Fat),andwhatisinalBukhr:withoutthemhavingdoneanygooddeedsandwithoutthemhavingsentforthanygoodThisis
onlythespeechfromthepeopleofParadise,andperhapsthenarratorexpressedhimselfwithhiswordswhoneverdidany
goodfromhisownunderstanding,whathasbeenestablishedearlierindicatesthis,thatthosewhomaretakenout(fromthe
Fire)arefromAhlasalh.
And based on the assumption that these wordings are correct, then they belong to alibrt almushkilah (the problematic
wordings)accordingtotheMadhhabofAhlasSunnahiftheyarenotdirectedtowhatisinagreementwiththeremainingtexts,
andnooneholdsontotheseexcepttheMurjiah.
AndithascomeintheFatwaofthePermanentCommitteenumber(21436):
Asfortheadththatsomepeoplewillentertheparadisewithoutdoinganygoodatall(lamYamalookhayranQattu),itisnotgeneral
foranyonewhoabandonsallactionswhileheiscapableofthem,ratheritisparticulartothosewhohaveanexcusethatpreventedthem
fromactions,orbecauseofothermeaningsthatareinharmonywiththecleartexts(anNususalMukamah)andwithwhattheSalaf
asliagreedbyconsensusinthischapter.
AndinalFat({6573}558/11)alfidhsaid:
AndIbnAbiamzahasextractedfromthisthathewhowasamuslimbutdidnotpraywillnotgetout(theHellFire)ashehasno
sign(ofprostration).Butit(i.e.thehadith)isunderstood(byothers)thathewillgetoutwiththegraspbecauseofthegeneralityofhis
statement he has not done any good deed at all I (alfidh) say: And the statement of Ibn Hamza is in agreement with the
Nusus.
Andinit(alFat527/13)alfidhsaid:AzZarkashisaidinmeaning:ThenAllhsaid:Myintercessionhasremained,Hethen
takesoutoftheFirethosewhoneverdidanygoodAndsomeofthemheldontothis(asevidence)inpermittingtheremovalofthenon
believersfromtheFire,andrefutation(onthis)isfromtwoviewpointsthesecond:Thatthemeaningofthegoodthatisbeingdeniedis
whatisadditionaltotheAslofalIqraarbishShahaadatayn(affirmationwiththetwotestimoniesoffaith),likethisisindicatedbythe
remainingnarrations.Isay(i.e.alfidh):Onthecontrary,whatiscorrectisthenecessityofbringingforththeShahaadataynandthe
alh,likeindicatedbytheremainingnarrations.
IbnKhuzaymahsaidinKitbatTawdwaithbtSiftarRabb(p.309)ThiswordingTheydidnotperformanygoodatallisfromthe
kind(oflanguage)theArabspeakswith:Denyingthe(applicationofa)nameonsomethingbecauseofitsshortcomingincompletenessand
correctness.Sothemeaningofthiswordingshouldbeunderstoodbaseduponthis(linguistic)fundamental.Hedidnotperformanygood
atallfromthe(pointofviewof)thecorrectnessandcompleteness,notfrom(thepointofviewof)whatisobligatoryuponhimandwith
whatheisorderedwith,andIhaveclarifiedthismeaningindifferentplacesinmybook.
Isay:fromwhatindicatesthisisthatwhatisagreeduponinthemhavingwiththemtheShahadatayn,andthisisthehighest
partofalmn.SohowcantheyaffirmtheShahadataynanddenywhatcomesasidefromit,andwhatevertheiranswerwillbe
on this problem, it will also be our answer on what is problematic from the meaning of the narration. In any case, this
additioninthenarrationthesamehascomeinsomeothernarrations,likewhathascomeinaiMuslim:
Therewasapersonbeforeyouwhohadkilledninetyninepersonsandthenmadeaninquiryaboutthelearnedpersonsoftheworld(who
couldshowhimthewaytosalvation).Hewasdirectedtoamonk.Hecametohimandtoldhimthathehadkilledninetyninepersonsand
askedhimwhethertherewasanyscopeforhisrepentancetobeaccepted.Hesaid:No.Hekilledhimalsoandthuscompletedonehundred.
He then asked about the learned persons of the earth and he was directed to a scholar, and he told him that he had killed one hundred
persons and asked him whether there was any scope for his repentance to be accepted. He said: Yes; what stands between you and the
repentance?Youbettergotosuchandsuchland;therearepeopledevotedtoprayerandworshipandyoualsoworshipalongwiththem
anddonotcometothelandofyourssinceitwasanevilland(foryou).Sohewentawayandhehadhardlycoveredhalfthedistancewhen
deathcametohimandtherewasadisputebetweentheangelsofmercyandtheangelsofpunishment.Theangelsofmercysaid:Thisman
hascomeasapenitantandremorsefultoAllahandtheangelsofpunishmentsaid:Hehasdonenogoodatall.Thentherecameanother
angelintheformofahumanbeinginordertodecidebetweenthem.Hesaid:Youmeasurethelandtowhichhehasdrawnnear.They
measureditandfoundhimnearertothelandwhereheintendedtogo(thelandofpiety),andsotheangelsofmercytookpossessionofit.
QatadasaidthatHasantoldhimthatitwassaidtothemthatasdeathapproachedhim,hecrawleduponhischest(andmanaged)toslipin
thelandofmercy.
AndtheadthitssourceisinalBukhr.
SotheseAngelsofPunishmentsaid:HehasdonenogoodatallwhereashemadesinceretawbahtoAllaah,andthisbelongs
totheactionsoftheheartandthetongue,andhewasonitswaytoarighteousvillageeventhoughhedidnotreachit,this
belongstotheactionsofthelimbs.
SointheadthashShafahthatisusedasproofthereisnoevidenceinitforthedenialoftheactionsofthelimbs,becauseof
theotherNu.Sowhenweaffirmtheactionsoftheheartthisnecessitatestheaffirmationoftheactionsofthelimbs,likethis
isestablishedinitsplace(ofdiscourse).
AndintheadthashShafahthereisnoindicationthattheabandonmentoftheprayerisntkufr,onthecontrary,thosewho
conduct proof with it are not free from problems, and perhaps thats why the first (of the muslim scholars) refrained from
conductingproofwithit.
[EndquotationfromIjtimAimmatuAhlisSunnah]
AsfortheclaimofAmjad:Thattheviewtheevilsinnerswhodidnogoodatall(despitehavingtheability)willberemoved
fromtheHellfirebyintercessionhasnobasisfortheaccusationofIrj upon the one who holds this opinion.
ShaikhSaalihAlFawzaanwasaskedthefollowing:
Question: It says, virtuous Shaikh may Allah give you guidance there are those who say that the one who leaves off all actions are not
disbelieversandthisisasecondopinionoftheSalafandthatitdeservesneithercondemnationnorcallingsomeoneaninnovator.Whatisthe
truthfulnessofthisstatement?
Answer:Thisisaliar.Theonewhosaysthatspeechisaliar,hehasliedupontheSalaf.TheSalafhavenotsaidthattheonewholeavesoff
allactionsanddoesntdoanythingthatheisabeliever.Whoeverleavesoffactionstotallywithoutanyexcuse,heneitherprays,norfasts,he
doesnotdoanyactionsatallandhesaysheisabelieverheisaliar.Asfortheonewholeavesoffactionsbecauseofalegislativeexcuse,heis
unabletodoactions.Hedeclaredthetwotestimoniesanddiedorwaskilledinthatinstancetheninthatcasethereisnodoubtthatsucha
personisabelieverbecausehewasunabletodoactions.Hedidntdosorefusingtodoso.Asfortheonewhoisabletodoactionsandhe
leavesoffall,hedoesnotprayorfastorgivesZakaatanddoesnotstayawayfromillicitandevildeedssuchapersonisnotabelieverandno
onesaysthatsuchapersonisabelieverexceptfortheMurjiah.
ShaikhSaalihAlFawzaanalsosaid:AndactionsenterintoImaan,therealityofImaan.Thereforewhoeverleavesitoff,whoeverleaves
itofftotallyanddoesnotdoactionseveryagainisnotabeliever.Asforifhedoessomethingsandleavesoffsomethingshewouldbea
believerwithreducedImaan.Asfortheonewholeavesoffactionstotallyanddoesnotdoactionsheisnotabeliever.Someofthemsayno
heisabelieverevenifheneverdidanything.ThisistheMadhab(way)oftheMurjiah
ShaikhAbdulAzeezAalAshShaikhwasaskedthefollowing:
RecentlyinBelgiumsomebrothersstartedtospreadamongusthattheonewholeavesoffallactionsisabelieverwhoseImaanisdeficient.
Whatdoyousayaboutthatstatement.
Answer:No,no,thisisafalsestatement.ActionsareapartofImaan.WhoeverclaimsImaanwithoutactionsisnotabeliever.Allahdid
notmentionImaanexceptwithgooddeeds.
ShaikhAhmadAnNajmiwasasked:Istheissueregardingtheonewholeavesoffallactionsofthelimbsanissuewhereinthereare
differencesofopinionbetweenAhlusSunnah?
Answer: No, the one who leaves off all actions is a Kaafir (disbeliever). And if such a person says he is a Muslim he is a liar. He
doesntsayheisaMuslimexceptoutofdesires.
ShaikhSaalihAsSuhaimisaid:
ThereisnodoubtthattheonewholeavesoffallactionstotallythatheisaKaafir(disbeliever)accordingtoconsensus.
ThesearejustsomeofthemanystatementsofthescholarsofAhlusSunnahWalJamaahregardingthisissueoftheonewho
leavesoffallactionsinthatifheleavesoffallactionstotally.Theissuehereisnotregardingleavingofftheprayerasthisisa
knowndisagreementbetweenthescholarsofAhlusSunnah.RatherwhatisbeingspokenaboutistheonewhoNEVERdidany
goodactionswhilehavingtheabilitytodoso.105
SowesincerelyadviceAmjadtosticktothescholars,andtoreturntothecomprehensivetreatisesonalmnthatareaidedby
thescholarslikethosebookswementionedbeforeinthisarticle.MayAllaahguidehim.
AmjadandmnHasaFoundationandaBranch.
Amjadcontinuousonpage47andsays:
TheStatementsoftheImmsoftheSunnahThatmnHasaFoundationandaBranch.
Wesay:Wefindthismannerofreasoningkindofanexaggeration.Whenitcomestothetermtrikjinsalamalweshowed
thatmanyScholarsusethistermandtheyuseittorefutetheonesclaimingthatOnecanhavemnwhilehedoesnoactions
ofthelimbsatallwhilebeingabletoperformtheseactions.
Amjad totally opposes this and tries to declare the term trik jins alamal a bidah, while he readily accepts that mn Has a
FoundationandaBranch.ThereasonforthiscontradictionliesinthesimplefactthatjinsalamalopposesAmjadsnotion
that one can have mn while not doing any action of the limbs, while mn Has a Foundation and a Branch gives Amjad some
spacetoplacetheactionsofthelimbsunderthebranchbywhichhecanstrengthenhisMurjiclaimthatonecanbeabeliever
withoutactingwiththelimbs.WhileaccordingtotheSalafandtheUlamaoftheSunnah,alAmlarefromtherealityofalmn,
105
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thatmnintheheart,andspeechonthetongueandactionsonthelimbsareallpartofalmnandcantbeseparated,andthat
leavingofallactionsofthelimbsiskufrbyIjmetc.
ThisiswhywesawAmjadquotingfromashShaykhRabsarticle:106
IsitallowedtodescribewithIrjwhosays:Thatalmnistheaslandthatalamal(actions)arekaml(perfection)(far:
branch)?
So ashShaykh Rab understands that branch and perfection are both used in the same manner! This article is written in 1427,
about 8 years ago. It is important the keep this fact in mind when well speak about shart kaml (condition for perfection)
specifically!
AmjadquotesalfidhIbnMandahQonpage47.
ImmMuammadbinIsqbinMandah( )saidinhisKitbalmn(1/331332),ThepeopleoftheJamahsaid:mnisallofthe
actsofobedience(those)withtheheart,thetongueandallofthelimbs.Savethatitishasafoundation(al)andabranch(far).Asforits
foundation,itisacquaintancewithAllh,believing(thatHeistruthful)and(believing)inHim,andinwhatevercamefromHim,withthe
heartandtongue,alongsidehumilitytoHim,loveofHim,fearofHim,venerationofHim,alongsideabandonmentofarrogance,disdain
and obstinacy. If he brings this foundation he has entred into mn and its label and ruling is binding for him. But he will not have
completed(mustakmilan)[hismn] untilhebringsitsbranch(far),anditsbranchiswhatisobligatoryuponhim,orthefari(the
obligations)andavoidingtheprohibitions,andthereporthascomefromtheProphet( )thathesaid,mnconsistsofseventyorsixty
oddbranches,themostsuperiorofthemisthetestimonial,Lilhaillallhaandthelowestofthemistoremovesomethingharmfulfrom
thefloor,andmodestyisabranchofmn.
InthisquoteAmjadwantstomakeitseemasifIbnMandahQholdsmnintheheartastheasl(foundation),andspeech
onthetongueandactionsofthelimbsasafar(branch).ThissothatAmjadisabletoarguethatonecanbeabelieverwithout
actionsofthelimbs!ThisunderstandingisrefutedfromtherootbyIbnMandahQhimselfinthesamebook!
OurbrotherMusaMillington9alsoquotesIbnMandahQinhisarticleonthisissue.107Wewillquotefromit,
becauseitbringsadditionalproof:
IbnMandahQmentionedinhisbookAlImaan:Chapter:MentionofthatwhichgivesevidencethatthenameofImaan
(believer)isgiventotheonewhobelievesineverythingthattheMessenger()withintentionandaffirmation
andactionandfaithandbeliefandcertaintyandthattheonewhobelievesinhisheartandneitheraffirmswithhistonguenor
does actions with his limbs which he was ordered to does not deserve the name of Imaan (mumin) and that the one who
106
Andblindlyfollowingthisor,whichisevenworse,usingthistodeliberatelyspreadhisIrjaa!
107
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affirmswithhistongueandactswithhislimbsbutdoesnotbelieveinthatinhisheartdoesnotdeservethenameofImaan.
(IbnMandah:305).
ThisclearlyproofsthatIbnMandahmakestakfroftheonewhodoesntactwiththetongueandthelimbs!MaybeAmjadwill
say:Ourdiscussionisaboutactionsofthelimbsonly?Wewillsay:Thequoteyouusedplacedbothwordsandactionswiththe
limbsunderthefar(branch)!SubnAllh!?
WewillnowquotefromthebeautifulbookAlmnIndaasSalaf
AlfidhIbnMandahQdeclarestheonewholeavestheprayertobeakfir.
HesaysinKitbalmn2/382:Mentioningwhatproofsthattheonewhodeniestheobligationofthezakatandtheonewhoabandons
thealhdeservethenameofalkufr.
And 2/362:108 And leaving the prayer is kufr and like this djuhood (denying the obligation of) asSawm and azZakaat and al
Hajj.
SoweclearlyseethatIbnMandahhastheopinionthatleavingoftheprayerismajorkufrandhecomparesittodjud(denial)
of other pillars! And djud of one pilar is kufr in itself! So how can Amjad understand from the words of Ibn Mandah
describingalmnwith havinga asl(foundation) andafar(branch), thathe makesnotakfiron theonewholeavesofallthe
actions?!ThiscanneverbetheintentofIbnMandah?!
ThenAmjadquotesImmalMarwazeeonpage48:
MuammadbinNasralMarwazisaidinthecourseofhisrefutationoftheMurjiah,Andwesay:Thatmnhasanal,foundation.92
Ifevenanatomsweightisremovedfromit,theappellationofmnwillberemovedaltogether(thewholeofmnwillbegone).Andfrom
whomeverthisisnotremoved,theappellationofmnwillremainwithhim.However,afterthisitincreases,addingmnontopofhis
mn. Then if there is any decrease in what is additional to this foundation (asl), the actual foundation does not decrease, which is
affirmation(iqrr)thatAllhisthetruthandwhatHesaysisthetruth.Thisisbecauseanydeficiencywithrespecttothis(foundation)is
actuallydoubt(shakk)aboutAllh,isHetrueornot?Andthisisliketheexampleofadatepalmtreethathasbranchesandleaves.Every
timeabranchfallsfromit,theappellationoftreeremainsforit,howeverafterthisdecreaseitisinastateotherthanwhatitwasbeforeof
perfection,butwithoutitsnamingchanging.Itisatreethatisdeficientinitsbranches,andothertreesaremoreperfectthanitsincethey
arecomplete.AndAllhtheMightyandMajesticsaid,Theexampleofagoodwordislikeagoodtreewhosefoundation(asl)isfirmly
establishedandwhosebranchesreachuptotheheaventotheendoftheverse.SoHemadetheexampleofthistreeanexampleforthe
wordmn,andHemadeithaveafoundation(al)andabranch(far)
108
Takenfromvolume2,page278.alGhadiermentionsmanyproofsthateventhekalaamofalHaafidhIbnMandahcantbeusedasproof,pleasereadfrom
page273.
AsprecededImmalMarwazquotedtheIjmonthetakfroftheonewholeavesallactionsofthelimbsinthesamesourceas
AmjadquotesTadhimQadrasSalah2/925.
MuhammedbinNasralMarwazsaid:AndwementionedinthisbookofourswheretheBookofAllhuatTaaalaandtheSunnahof
HisMessengerpointtofromthemagnificationofthepositionofasalh,andthefulfillmentofthepromisewiththerewardfortheonewho
performs it, and magnification of the threat upon the one who neglects it. And difference between it and between all the other actions in
excellence,anditsgreatposition.ThenwementionedtherelatedreportsonauthorityoftheProphetaboutdeclaringtheonewholeavesit
tobekfir,andhisremoventfromthemillah(religion)andthepermissibilityinkillingtheonewhorefusestoperformit.Thenthesameas
thatcametousonauthorityoftheSahabah,andnothingdifferencetothatcametousfromthem.109
SolikewithIbnMandah,itisimpossibleforAmjadtoascribetoalMarwazthathemakesnotakfirontheonewholeavesofall
theactions?!BecausealMarwazclearlyisoftheopinionthattheonewhoabandondstheprayerisakafir,soitcanneverbe
understood from his words in describing almn with a foundation and a branch that leaving of all the actions of the limbs
doesnt nullify almn!? So the reader must pay attention to this phenomenon, the playing around with the speech of the
scholarsbyAmjadandthelikesofhim.
AmjadquotesShaykulIslmIbnTaymiyyahonpage48andthensaysrightafterthequoteonpage49:
Totheadddiyyah,thisexplanationfromIbnTaymiyyahisIrj,despitehisstatementthatmnconsistsofbelief,speechandaction,
thatallofthemarepillars(arkn)inmn,ornecessary(lzim)tomnorapart(juz)ofmnandthatatthesametime,fromanother
perspective, it is said to have a foundation (al) and a branch and that the branch stems from the foundation and completes the whole.
Whattheyfailtounderstandisthatdescribingaction(amal)tobeapillar(rukn)orfromthebindingnecessity(lzim)orapart(juz)of
mn, alongside it also being a branch (far) that stems out of the foundation (al), and being a completion (tamm) or perfection
(kaml)ofthewholedoesnotnecessitatethatactionisnotfrommnallofthatissimultaneouslycorrect.Thisshowsthatthe
adddiyyahlackreasonandintellectandtheabilitytograsprealitiesandsimplywanderintheirblindness,guidedbydesiresandhatred
ofAhlalSunnah.
Wesay:WhydidAmjadnotreturntotheMukamkalmofIbnTaymiyyah?LikeweshowedinthepartinwhichAmjadattacks
jinsalamal.HenowusesthiskalmfromIbnTaymiyyahtotryandspreadtheimpressionthatIbnTaymiyyahseestheonewho
leavesofallactionsofthelimbstobeabeliever.ItissaddeningthatAmjaddoesntquoteIbnTaymiyyahsclearandmukam
speechregardingthisissue.
HefollowsthefootstepsoftheonewhousesthesewordstospreadIrj.BecauseforIbnTaymiyyahoutwardactionsbythe
limbsareashartforsiatalmn.Wealreadyprovedthisbutwillplaceithereagaintostresstheimportanceofreturningto
thescholars,forcorrectunderstandingofthewordsIbnTamiyyah.
Wewilljusthighlightsomepoints.
109
TheLajnahadDimahissuedthefollowingfatwa 110,inittheLajnahwasaskedtoreturntothewritingsofIbn
TaymiyyahforthecorrectunderstandingofIbnTaymiyyahswords:
ThespreadofandcalltoIrja'creed
Fatwano.21436
Q:PraisebetoAllahAloneandpeaceandblessingsbeupontheLastProphet.Tocontinue,
ThePermanentCommitteeforScholarlyResearchandIftahadreadtheletterreceivedbyhisEminence,theGrandMufty(Islamicscholar
qualifiedtoissuelegalopinions)fromanumberofinquirerswhosenamesareregisteredattheSecretariatGeneraloftheCouncilofSenior
Scholars nos.(5411) ,(1026), (1016),(1395), (1650), (1893), (2106) dated 7/11/1420, 7/2/1421, 7/2/1421, 3/8/1421, 17/3/1421, 25/3/1421,
7/4/1421A.H.,successively.
Theinquirersaskedmanyquestionstothefollowingeffect:Lately,theideaofIrja(adeviantconvictionclaimingthatFaithisrestrictedto
beliefnotdeeds)hasdreadfullyspread.Manywritershavebeenpropagatingit,dependingonsomeincompletequotationsfromtheShaykhof
IslamIbnTaymiyyahswritings,somethingwhichleadsmanypeopletoconfusionwithrespecttothedefinitionofIman(faith).Theytryto
excludetheelementofdeedsfromthedefinitionofIman.Theyclaimthatanyonewhoabandonsalldeedswillstillbesaved(fromHellfire).
This definitely facilitates the committing of sins, acts of Shirk (associating others with Allah in His Divinity or worship) and Riddah
(apostasy)forpeopleattainImaninlightofthisconviction,eveniftheydonotabidebyreligiousobligations,avoidprohibitions,oractin
accordance with Shariàh (Islamic law). There is no doubt that this conviction has a severe effect on Islamic societies, issues of Àqdah
(creed)andworship.Therefore,IhopeYourEminencewillrevealtherealityofthisconvictionanditsbadeffects,andthetruththatisbased
ontheQuranandSunnah(whateverisreportedfromtheProphet).IhopeyouwillalsoverifythewritingsreportedfromShaykhul
IslamsothatallMuslimscanbesureaboutandhaveknowledgeoftheirreligion.
ThentheLajnahexplainsthattheoneswiththeseideashavetheMurjiàhastheirSalaf(likeAmjad!!)
Answer by the Lajnah: After the Committee studied the inquiry, it answered as follows: The mentioned sayings are
attributedtoAlMurjiah(adeviantIslamicsectclaimingthatFaithisrestrictedtobeliefnotdeeds)whoexcludedeedsfrom
thedefinitionofIman.TheyclaimthatImanisachievedbybeliefwiththeheartandutterancewiththetongue,whereasthe
deeds,accordingtotheirview111,areaconditionforattainingperfectionbutarenotconsideredaprerequisiteforit.
Thus,accordingtotheirconviction,anyonewhobelieveswiththeirheartandutterswiththeirtonguewillbeaperfectMumin
(believer), even if they abandon obligations and violate prohibitions, they will also be entitled to enter Jannah (Paradise)
withoutobservinganygooddeeds.
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LikeAmjadwhoclaimsthatactionsareshartkamaalorabranchseparatefromitsfoundation!Heusesthesetwotermsinordertoproofthattheactions
ofthelimbsarenotshartsihhaandthefoundationisntvoidwhileleavingeverythingoffromtheoutwardactions!ThisproofsthatheopposestheUlama
whostatethatactionsbythelimbsareshartsihha(tousehisterm);sothereisnoImaanacceptwithactionsofthelimbs!Healsocontradictshimselfbecause
hesaysthatactionsbythelimbsarepartofalImaanbutcanbeseparatedwhenleavingalltheseactsandonecanstillhavecorrectImaan?!Thisiswhywe
sticktotheScholars,alhamdullillah!
111
ThefollowingwordsoftheLajnahproofthatAmjadreturnstohisownunderstandingandthatwereturntothe
ScholarsandnottotheQutbiyyah,Haddadiyyahetc.
TheLajnahsaid:
ShaykhulIslam (may Allah be merciful to him) also mentioned in his book AlIman: The origin of Iman is in the heart,
including utterance and action. It is recognition of belief, love and submissiveness. Whatever rests in the heart should be
manifest in action. If a person does not act in accordance to it, this indicates absence or weakness of Iman. This is why the
visibledeedsareareflectionoftheImanofheartandaconfirmationtowhatexistsinit.Theyconstituteevidenceofitandthey
areabranchandpartoffullIman.
WhileAmjadquotedonpage49fromIbnTaymiyyah:
Thefoundation(asl)[ofmn]isintheheartanditsperfection(kaml)liesintheoutwardactions,inoppositiontoIslamsinceitsbasisis
whatisexternalanditsperfectionliesintheheart
We say: With this pick and choose methodology Amjad tries to support his Irj Madhab, trying to proof with some of the
statementsofthescholarsthatalmnhasafoundationandabranch,thatalamalbilJawri(theactionsofthelimbs)areonly
fromthebranchofalmn,sowhenitisabanondedthefoundationremainsandoneisstillamuslimwithouttheactionsofthe
limbs!!Allthisisjustplayingscramblewiththespeechofthescholars,misusingtheirspeechthatismutashbihandleavingof
theirmukamspeech.
AshShaykh Abd alAziz arRji said, when he was asked about the ones who misuse the speech of the scholars, like the
statementofalMarwaziinrefutingtheKhawrijandtheMutazilahthosewhomaketakfronAhlalKabirthatalmnhasa
foundationwhichisalItiqaadandalQawl,andabranchwhichisalamal.Andthattheytrytousethisspeechtoproofthatthe
onewholeavesthefoundationisakfirandtheonewhoonlyleavesthebranchisnotakfir112
TheShaykh:thisisthewayofAhlazZayghandalInhiraaf,weaskAllhforprotectionandwellbeing.Theirway,likehas
preceded,istobringaboutmisconceptions,andtheytakesomeoftheNusoos,andtheyleaveoftheother,theyexplainthem
according their wrong explanations, until they bring about misconceptions on the layman and on the Juhaal and on the
novices, so they think that they are on alaqq, whereas (in reality) they are invalidating (the correct explanations and
understanding).Thesearethewellknowntricksfromthepeopleofdeviationandfalsehood,weaskAllhforprotectionandwellbeing.
Yes.
Thereisnodoubt thatthisiscontradicting:Speechandactionsandbelief,andthenhesays:Whatisrequestedisthefoundationofal
mn.Yes,nodoubtthisiscontradictoryandtheconflictintheirspeechisclear,becausetheyarepeopleofdeviation,theydontintend
(toreach)theaqq,weaskAllhforprotectionandwellbeing.
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As for the one who intends the aqq then he works with the Nusoos, and he takes the Nusoos, and he combines them
together, he doesnt distort or misinterpret them, yes a false distortion. The Nas (text) there is no problem in it, it is clear, in
agreementwithAhlasSunnahwalJamah.BecausethefoundationofthereligionandthefundamentalsofthefaithisalmninAllh,
andHisMessenger,andwitnessingtheOnenessforAllhuTaaalaandforHisProphetwiththeRisaalah.Butitsnecessarythatalmn
isbeingrealizedwithamal,thismnisnotrealizedexceptwithamal,becauseotherwiseitbecomeslikethemnofalIblisandFirawn,
i.e.:Theonewhoclaimsheisamoe`minandthatheisamuwahhid,aproofisnecessaryfortheaffirmationofthisclaim,andthatisal
amal,itisestablishedbyalamal.Asforonlytheutterancewiththetongue,thanwhatisthedifferencebetweenhimandbetweenthe
mnofIblisandFirawn?
Sothescholarswhomentionthatalmnhasafoundationandabranchtheyonlymeantoproofbyitthatalamalarethe
fruitsofalmnthatisintheheart,andthatitaffirmsit,andthisinrealityisarefutationoftheMurjiàh,becauseitproofsthe
inseperable correlation between alBtin (the inward) and adhDhhir (the outward), and on this meaning their words
should be understood, because then their words are in perfect agreement with the Aqdah of the Salaf asli that almn is
speechandactions.
ClearproofsthatleavingallactionsofthelimbsplacessomeoneoutsidethefoldofIslam,withcleartextsbyIbn
Taymiyyah:
IbnTaymiyyasays:ThinkingofwhatAlKhawarijandAlMurjiahsaywithrespecttothemeaningofImanrevealsthatthisincludes
disobedienceoftheMessenger.ObeyingAllah(ExaltedbeHe)andHisMessenger(peacebeuponhim)denotestheperfectionofIman,and
thatAllah(ExaltedbeHe)wouldneverrenderasinnertobeaKafir.SupposethatsomepeoplewenttotheProphet(peacebeuponhim)and
toldhim:Webelieveinwhatyouhavebroughtusbyourheartsandbearwitness(thatthereisnodeityexceptAllahandthatMuhammadis
theMessengerofAllah)withourtongues,butwedonotabidebyyourcommandsandprohibitions;aswedonotofferprayers,fast,perform
Hajjorbelievewhatistoldtous;wedonotreturntrusts,fulfillourpromises,maintainthetiesofkinshiporobserveanygoodactswhich
youordainedus;wedrinkintoxicantsandcommitincestandadultery;wekillasmanypeopleaswecanofyourCompanionsandUmmah
(nation)andtaketheirmoney;wemayevenkillyoutooandfightwithyourenemiesagainstyou.Cananyrationalpersonimaginethatthe
Prophet(peacebeuponhim)wouldanswerthembysaying:YouaretheperfectMuminun(believers)andyouaretheonesentitledtomy
intercession on the Day of Resurrection, and it is expected that none of you would enter Hellfire? On the contrary, every Muslim
indisputablyknowsthattheProphet(peacebeuponhim)wouldhavetoldthem:YouarethemostdisbelievingpeopleevertowhatIcame
withandthathewouldhaveexecutedthemiftheyhadnotrepented.
And: When the word of Iman is generally mentioned in the Quran and Sunnah, it is meant with dutifulness, piety, and religion as
previouslymentioned,fortheProphet(peacebeuponhim)declaredthatImanhasoverthanseventybranches,thebestofwhichistowitness
thatthereisnoDeitybutAllah,andtheleastistoremoveharmfromtheroad.Therefore,whateverpleasesAllahfallsunderthemeaningof
Iman.Allthisisalsoincludedinthemeaningofdutifulnesswhengenerallymentioned,andsoaretheTaqwa(fear/warinessofoffending
Allah)andtheDin(religionofIslam).ItwasalsonarratedthatwhenpeopleaskedaboutIman,AllahrevealedthefollowingAyah:Itisnot
AlBirr(piety,righteousness,andeachandeveryactofobediencetoAllh,etc.)thatyouturnyourfaces...WhatismeanthereisthatIman,
whichisaccompaniedbyaction,ispraised,otherthanthatwhichisdevoidofit.
AwarningfromtheLajnah,OAmjadpleasetakeheed:
ThisiswhatShaykhulIslamIbnTaymiyyahsaidaboutIman;anyonewhoreportsotherthanthisonhisauthoritywillbeinventinglies
againsthim.
WhereaswhatwasmentionedintheadthconcerningtheentranceofsomepeopleintoJannahdespitethattheyhadneverdoneanygood
is not absolute to anyone who abandons deeds while being capable of doing them. Rather it is restricted to those who have excuses for
abandoningdeedsorforanyotherreasonthatisconsistentwiththeobjectivesofShariàh.
After clarifying this issue, the Permanent Committee warns against arguing over the fundamentals of Àqdah, because of the serious
consequences resulting from this. It recommends resorting to the books of the Righteous Salaf and leading Muslim scholars which are
basedontheQuran,SunnahandaccountsoftheSalaf.Italsowarnsagainstreferringtoanybooksthatcarryviewsopposingtheoriginal
references,ormodernbooksthatareissuedbyauthorswhohavenotacquiredknowledgethroughscholarsorfromoriginalsources.Those
peopleareintruderstothisonegreatfundamentalofÀqdah.TheyadopttheviewsofAlMurjiahandfalselyattributethemtoAhlul
SunnahWalJamaàh,causingconfusiontopeople. TheyalsowronglyascribetheseviewstotheShaykhofIslam IbnTaymiyyah(may
Allahbemercifultohim)andotherImamsoftheSalafthroughincompletequotations.WeadvisethemtofearAllahandtoreturntothe
RightPath,andnotbreaktheunity(ofMuslims)bypromotingthisdeviantbelief.113
TheCommitteealsowarnsMuslimsagainstbeingtemptedandfallingintothetrapofthoseopposingAhlulSunnahWalJamaàh.
PermanentCommitteeforScholarlyResearchandIfta
Member:BakrAbuZayd
Member:liAlFawzan
Member:ÀbdullahibnGhudayyan
Chairman:ÀbdulÀzizibnÀbdullahAlAlShaykh
Anothershortwarning:WhenrefutingthesectofalAhbashtheLajnahsaid:114
1Withregardtotheissueoffaith,theyfollowtheschoolofthoughtofAlIrjawhichiscondemnedinIslam.ItisknownthattheÀqdah
(creed)oftheMuslims,whichwasthatfollowedbytheCompanions,theTabiùn(Followers,thegenerationaftertheCompanionsofthe
Prophet)andthosewhofollowtheirstepsuntilthepresentday,isthatIman(faith)isthematterofwordsspokenbythetongue,beliefis
what is held in the heart and actions are what are done by the body. Belief must be accompanied by submission to the laws of Islam,
otherwisethesocalledfaithisnotvalid.TherearemanyreportsfromthepiousPredecessorswhichconfirm thisbelief,forexamplethe
wordsofImamAlShafi`y(mayAllahbemercifultohim):AmongtheconsensusoftheCompanions,theTabiùn,thosewhocameafter
them and those whom we have met, is that they say: faith is words, actions and intentions; one of these three will not be
completewithouttheothertwo.
113
LikeAmjaddoestimeandtimeagain!
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114
WeaskAllhtoguideAmjadtowhatpleasesHim.SomecurrentScholarshavewarnedagainstthelikesofAmjadwhousethe
distinctionbetweenthebaseandbranchtospreadIrj!
AmjadandShartSiahandShartKaml:
Amjadsaydonpage66:
Wehaveonemoreissueusedbytheadddiyyahandthejritesandthatistheusageofthephrasesshariahandsharkamlin
thesubjectofactionsandmn.
Wesay:Thismanisreallyafraudwithnolimitsandheknowsthisverywell.CauseAmjadhimselfacknowledgedinthepast
that the Permanent Committee saw this point of view as Irj, and he back then also attacked the ones following this Ijm
relatedbytheSalaf,hesaidinthealabPaperspart3onpage16:115
QUTUBISTOPPORTUNISMANDTHEVERDICTSOFTHESCHOLARSONIRJ
TherecentverdictsofthePermanentCommitteeareallcenteredontheissue(predominantly)oftheonewhoabandonsall
theactionsofgoodnessandthendies.DoeshedieasaMuslimornot?116
ThebooksofAdnaanAbdulQadir,azZahraani(whoisnotknowntous),AliHasanalHalabiareconnectedtothisissue.117Despite
thefactthatallofthosementionedconsideractionstobefundamentaltomn,andapillarofmnandarealityofmnandsoon,the
verdictwasstillissuedagainstthemonthebasisthatholdingthatapersonwhoabandonsalltheactionsremainsaMuslimisIrj.118
Thediscussiontherefore,isrelatedtowhetheractions(individualactionsorinagenericsense,jinsulamal)areacondition
forthevalidity(sihhah)orcompletion(kaml)ofmn.119
ThisanalysisofAmjadclearlyshowsthatAmjadusesthetermslikeshartkamltospreadalIrj.BecausethenobeleUlamaa
ofAhlusSunnahstatethatactionsareaRuknoraJuzofalmnandnotseparatedfromit.
WhileAmjadisspreadingtheviewthatactionsofthelimbsarefromalmn,butthattherecanbemnwithouttheactionsof
thelimbs?!InthispartAmjadonceagaintriestoshopinthewordsofmanyscholars,butseemstomissthepointthat:
115
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Whichtheydeny.SowhydoyoushopinthewordsoftheCommitteewhentheirwordsarecrystalclearinthisissue?
116
117
LikeyouareconnectedtoalHalabeeandthisiswhyyouwrotetheHalabeepapersandmanyotherarticles.Nowin2014youarestillontheMadhhabofal
HalabeewithalImaan,andyoutrytodeceivethepeoplebymakingitlookasifyouarewiththescholars,whileinfactyoutwisttheirunderstanding!
118
SowhylabelthepeoplewhoacceptallthesefataawaaasQutbiyyienandHaddaadiyyah?Whydontyouacknowledgethisfactin2014andwhydoyoutry
toabusetheCommitteemakingreadersthinktheCommitteehasyourfaultyunderstandingandthattheydonthavetheopinionthatapersonwhoabandons
alltheactionsremainsaMuslimisIrjaa'?IndeedweacceptedthisstanceoftheCommitteeforover7yearsnow.BackthenwewereQutbiyyahandnow
Haddaadiyyah.ThenwhatdoyousayabouttheCommittee?DotheyspreadthisfitnahAmjad?MayAllaahguideyou!
119
And this is why Amjad deliberately misquotes Ibn alBanaa alHanbalie, Ibn Baaz, the Permanent Committee, and also Ibn Rajab in his article. We have
addedallthewordsoftheseUlamaaanduncoveredthetalbeesofAmjad!
NoneofthescholarshequotesusethesetermslikeshartsihhahandshartkamaltoadvocatethatapersoncanbeMuslim
withoutdoingactionsofthelimbs;
These scholars sometimes use these terms when asked while they clearly oppose the notion that a person can be Muslim
withoutdoingactionsofthelimbs;ratheralltheUlamaAmjadquotesinthispartareopposedtothis;
Amjadmainlybuildshisvisiononalalabandnowin2014usesashShaykhRab.WhatisashShaykhRabspointofview
specificallyregardingthisterminology?AnddidordidnottheShaykhcriticizeashShaykhalAlbaneeregardingthis?Ifhe
didwasthatallowedaccordingtoAmjad?
AmjadquotesalAlbanee,IbnBz,alFawzn,alGhudayyn,alUthaymn,Rab,arRajihiandZaydalMadkhalI.Butheis
abletoopposealloftheseScholarsinthisissue!Becauseallofthemseetheonewholeavesallactionsofthelimbsasa
kfir.SowhydoesntAmjadspreadthispointofview?Becausehisclaimforadifferenceofopinionisbaatil!
Finally: Amjad has no objection to this term, while asHShaykh Rab clearly was against shart alkaml. Why does Amjad
leave ashShaykh Rabs opinion, yet he does spread this when speaking about jins alamal? This according to Amjad is a
bidahandtheSalafneverspokeofit,butshartalkamalnot,whenAmjadacknowledgesthatIbnHajarwasthe1stwhoused
it?Strangeindeedforsome.Butnotforus!BecauseAmjadsscaleforalaqqandalBaatilisthemethodologyhehasbeen
followingregardingthisissueforover15yearsandAllhsHelpissought!
Amjadsaysonpage66:
TheIssueofActionandtheTermsShariahandSharKaml.
IbnajaralAsqaln( )asindicatedbysomeofthepeopleofknowledgewasthefirsttomakeuseofthesetermsinthecourseof
contrastingthepositionofAhlalSunnahwiththepositionoftheMutazilah.Hestated,TheMutazilahsayitisaction,statementand
belief.ButthedifferencebetweentheMutazilahandtheSalafisthatMutazilahmakeactionsaconditionforthevalidityofmnwhereas
theSalafmakethemaconditionfortheperfectionofmn.
Wesay:WhenAmjadspokeaboutjinsalamalhesaidonpage40:
TheUseofInnovatedTermsintheDefinitionofmnSuchasJinsalAmal.
InthispartofhispaperAmjaddeclaresjinsalamaltobeaninnovatedterm.Whilehetriestoadvocatetheusageofshartal
kaml? Even when he knows very well how the scholars use these terms. Shart alKaml is used by some Ulama, in certain
occasions,toclarifythatsomeactionsofthelimbsapartfromasalhwhichtheyseeasshartsiahareshartkaml.Butthey
allopposeAmjadinhisnotionthattheoneswhodonotviewasalhasshartsihhah,viewactionsofthelimbsasshart
kaml.ThisbecausealltheMashaykh,evenImmalAlbaneeandashShaykhRabdeclaretheonewholeavesallactionsof
thelimbstobeakfir!
NexttothismanyScholarshavecriticizedtheusageofshartspecificallyinrelationtothesewordsofIbnHajar:
ImmIbnBzQ:
TheShaykhsaidinadialoguewithMajallahalMishkt:
alMishkt:IbnajrmentionedinalFatwhenhespeaksonthesubjectofalmnandalAmal,andiftheyareinsidethe
meaningofalmn(daakhiloenfielMusamm),hementionsthattheyareshartkaml(conditionforcompletion),alaafidh
said:Andthe Mutazilahsaid: ItisalAmal,andanNutq(speech),andalItiqd(belief),and thedistinctionbetweenthem
and the Salaf is that they make alAml a shart (condition) for its correctness, and the Salaf make it a shart (condition) for its
completeness.
SotheShaykhanswered:No,itsaJuz(part),notashart(condition),itsaJuz(part)ofalmn,almnisqawl(speech),
andAmal(action)andAqdahi.e.tadq(affirmationintheheart),andalmnwithAhlasSoennahwalJamahconsistsof
alqawl,andalAmal(action)andatTadq.
alMishkt:Therearethosewhosaythatitisinsidealmnbutthatitisshartkaml(aconditionforcompleteness)?120
AshShaykh: No, no, it is not shart kaml; its a Juz (part), a Juz of almn. This is the statement of the Murjiah121. The
Murjiah view almn to be Qawl (speech) and Tasdq (affirmation) only and the others (of the Murjiah) say: alMarifah
(knowledge).Andsomeofthemsay:atTadq.Andallofthisiswrong.ThecorrectviewwithAhlasSunnahisthatalmnis
Qawl, and Amal and Aqdah like (mentioned) in alWsiiyyah (of Ibn Taymiyyah), it increases with obedience and it
decreaseswithdisobedience.
alMishkt:WithalAmalJinsalAmalisintended?
120
LikeAmjadsays.SeeherewhatAmjadhasbeenspreadingforover15yearsnow:
SUMMARY : When we say that with respect to applying these terms to each of the righteous actions, then bearing in mind the difference of opinion
concerningtheonewhoabandonstheprayerwhichoccursamongstAhlusSunnahandwhichisadifferenceofjurisprudence(fiqh),thentherighteous
actionsareaconditionfortheperfection(kamala)ofImaan,andthisiswhatisclearlyapparentfromImaamalAlbani,anditisalsowhatisapparentfromboth
ShaikhIbnUthaimeenandImaamBaz.Andholdingthisparticularviewpointdoesnotnecessitatethatapersondoesnotconsiderrighteousactionstobe
integraltoImaanandessentialtoit,justlikeitdoesnotnecessitatethatapersonwhoholdstheviewoftheabsenceoftakfiroftheoneabandonstheprayer
also holds that prayer is not from Imaan and a requirement of it!!! And that Imaan does not increase and decrease on account of its performance or
abandonment!!!AndthattheonewhoabandonsitisperfectinhisfaithandwillnotentertheFire!Soreflect!Otherwise,wecouldsaythatallofthosefrom
AhlusSunnahwhodonotperformtakfiroftheonewhoabandonsfastingandhajjintheviewofthosewhodoperformtakfirdonotconsiderthese
actions to be from Imaan!! And hence they do not consider actions to be a condition of validity (sihhah), and hence, they have adopted the views of the
Murjiah?!!Source:TheHalabipaperspart2:Page29
Wesay:LeaveyourphilosophyandfollowtheScholars!
121
AshShaykhSlialFawzncommentatedonthispointstatingthefollowing:i.e.thestatementthatalAmalisshartkamlforalmnisthestatementof
theMurjiah
AshShaykh:Ofaltandawmandother[thanitfrom]122actionsoftheheartfromkhawf(fear)andraj(hope).
alMishkt:TheymentionthatudidnotcommentateonthatinalFat?
AshShaykh:Idontknow,ourcommentswerebefore40yearsago,beforewewenttoalMednah,andwewenttoalMednah
intheyear1381H,andwerecordedthecorrectionsonalFatIthinkin1377Hor78,soapproximatelymorethan40yearsago.I
dontremembermaybeitpassedanditdidnotcometoourattention.
[AqwlDhawilArfaanfieannaAmlalJawriiDkhilatnfieMusammaalmnp.58
ShaikhliaalashShaykh123
AndthefollowingtookplaceinoneofShaikhliAalAshShaikhsclasses.Andalthoughthestudentwasnotreadingfrom
FatulBarihereadfromoneofthestatementsofShuaybalArnautwhohadtheexactexpressionofIbnHajarQinhis
notesonTawiyyah:
Questioner:Thereisacommentfromsomebrothers:
Shaykh:Readthenotes.
Student:InthenameofAllahthebeneficentthemercifulandmaypeaceandblessingsbeuponthebestoftheProphetsand
Messengers.Thepeoplehavemuchdifferenceregardingthedefinitionofmn.Malik,Shafiee,Ahmad,AlAwzaeeandIshaaq
IbnRaahuyahandtherestofAhlulHadeeth,andthepeopleofMadeenahandtheThahireeyah,andsomeoftheTabieensay
thatitisbeliefintheheart,affirmationofthetongueandactionsofthelimbs.
He said (Shuayb Arnaut): And it is the statement of the Mutazilah also because they said mn consists of actions and
statements and belief and the difference between them and the Salaf is that they brought actions as a condition for its
correctnessandtheSalafbroughtitasaconditionforitscompleteness.SeeSharhUsSunnahtotherestofit.
Shaykh : This is incorrect, his notes are incorrect. Firstly that is not the statement of the Mutazilah. Secondly the difference
betweenAhlusSunnahandtheMutazilahisnotthis.AhlusSunnahdonotseethatmnisaconditionrathertheyseeitisa
pillarbecausewhathasenteredintoitsdefinitionisapillar.ArethesethenotesofShuaib?
Questioner:Yes:
122
ClarificationfromashShaykhSlialFawznafidhullh.
TakenfrombrotherMusaMilington,jazaaAllaahughayra:
123
Shaykh:Thisisnotfreefromerror.Thisisincorrectspeech.Isthisthe1413printNothisisnotcorrect.Hisnotesarewrong.
Allofhisnotesareincorrect.HemadeitthatthestatementofAhlasSunnahthatmnisstatementofthetongueandbelief
in the heart and actions of the limbs is similar to that of the Mutazilah and this is incorrect. And then he made it that
actions according to the Salaf are a condition for its completeness and made it for the Mutazilah a condition for
completeness and this is also incorrect. All his notes are built upon the understanding of the Maaturidis in most cases.
Meaning,hegoesinthedirectionoftheMaturidisinthisissue.
QuestiontoShaykhAbdarRamnIbnNiralBarrk:
OneofthebrotherswroteontheissueofmnandhecamewiththespeechofImmIbnHajarthattheSalafsviewwasthat
mnconsistsofstatementsactionsandbeliefandthatactionsareaconditionofmn.Thereforeanotherbrotherclarifiedthat
thisdefinitionofmnwasincorrectbecause:
Itisgeneral(thespeechcanbetakenintomanydifferentways);124
ItisfromthespeechoftheMurjiah.
Then he came with the speech of the scholars such as Ibn Bz, li aal ashShaykh, li alFawzn and Shaykh Rajihi.
However,thebrotherswhowrotethespeechofIbnHajarsaid:
This speech is according to the intention of the person and the Usool that he operates from. Is there any advice for the
personwhowrotethespeechofIbnajarinthismatter?
ShaykhalBarrk:ThereisnothingworthyofworshipexceptAllhandthereisnomightandpowerexceptbyAllh.
Actions,mybrother,thisneedslongspeechhoweverAhlasSunnahbelievethatmnisbeliefintheheartandaffirmationbythe
tongueandactionsbytheheartandthelimbsthisiswhatismn.Thereforetheonewhodoesnotdoactionsdoesnothave
mn,hemusthaveactionsoftheheart.Theremustbesomethingfromtheactionsoftheheartwhichresultsinactionsof
the limbs. If a person believes but there is no love in his heart for Allh neither any fear or hope or reliance, yes, this is
nothingwhatsoever.
TaketheexampleofAblib,Ablibbelieved,Ablibbelievedbuttherewasnosubmissioninhisheartandtherewe
no actions, only belief. There must be actions. Therefore, it is impossible to have mn without actions, it is impossible. A
personsaysthereisnothingworthyofworshipexceptAllahandthatMuhammadishisMessengerandhedoesnotpray
oneRakahforAllhandhedoesnotfastandhedoesnotmakeajjandhedoesnotmakeJihdwhatmeaningdoesithave
to his statement that there is nothing worthy of worship except Allh and that Muammad is His Messenger. This is
onlyspeech.
124
LikeAmjaddoeswhenhewantstospreadhismethodologyinthattheleavingofallactionswiththelimbscanstillbeaMuslim.SoheopposestheSalaf
andtheUlama!
ShaykhAliAshShibal.
HeisthescholarwhowrotethebookalTanbeehalaaalMukhaalafaatalAqadiyyahFilFatalBaaree125.126Hesaidregardingthe
statementofImamIbnHajar:
AlfidhIbnajarQwasincorrectregardingthisissuesinceactionscanbeshartkaml(conditionofcompleteness)
anditcanbeshartsihhah(conditionofcorrectness)anditcanbesomethingpreferable(todo).Asfortakingactionsoutofmn
bymakingitoneofitsconditionsthisspeechisincorrect.ActionsarefrommnbytheagreementoftheSalaf.mnconsists
ofbelief,statementsandactions.Fromthemwhicharepillarsmeaningthatmnisnotcorrectwithoutit.Andfromitisthat
whichisobligatoryandfromthatwhichispreferable.Yes.127
SoAmjadquotesIbnajarandleavesthespecificcriticismofmorethan10Ulamaonthisspeech!ThesameUlamahewants
torefertowhenitsuitshim.Itwillbecomeevenworse.Letssee:
AmjadquotesImmalAlbaneeQonpage67:
ImmalAlbnalludedthisstatementinhisbookukmTrikalalt,whenhesaid,...Sowhereistheanswertotheprayerbeinga
conditionforthevalidity(shariah)ofmn?!Meaning,thatitisnotjustaconditionfortheperfectionofmn(shartkaml),forall
therighteousactionsareaconditionfortheperfectionwithAhlalSunnah,inoppositiontotheKhawrijandtheMutazilahthosewho
saythatthemajorsinnerswillremaineternallyinthefire,alongsidetheKhawrijmakingexplicittakfrofthem(thesinners).
As we see: AlImm alAlbn Q made the same mistake as alfidh Ibn Hajar QThis is why both of these two
mountains of knowledge have been criticized on this point. Well again refer to the excellent compilation by brother Musa
afidahoellh.128AndwewilladdaspecialquoteforbrotherAmjadwhichhe(deliberately?)leftouthisarticle!
ThestatementsofthescholarsregardingShaikhAlAlbanisspeech.
1)
SpeechofShaykhliAsSuhaimi:
ShaikhliAsSuhaimisaidinhisdefenseofShaikhNaasirUdDeenAlAlbani:
125
Musa Millington: Same book that Amjad Rafeeq quoted in http://www.salafitalk.com/threads/977IbnHajaralAsqalaniandalEemaanResponsetoa

FaajirKadhdhaab?highlight=shibal
ThisbookalsohasanintroductionofthefollowingUlama:
AsShaykhalFawzaan;
AsShaykhIbnBaaz;
AsShaykhbinMaani;
AsShaykhAbdullaahalAqeel;
AsShaykhalGhunaymaan.
127
AshShaykhasSinaaniealsoquotedthisbookbyasShaykhAsShiblandasShaykhalFawzaancommentedonitinAqwlDhawilArfaanfieannaAmaal
alJawriiDkhilatnfieMusammaalmn!
128
Wewillliteratelyquotethisbrothersresearchandwhenweaddanythingthiswillbeclearlyvisible.
126
Thefirstangle:ThereisgeneralityinourShaikhAlAlbanis(speech)andhewaspreceded.Butweseethathewasincorrectanditishis
unrestrictedstatementthatdoingactionsofKufrdonottakeapersonoutofthereligion.AndthisisincorrectfromtheShaikhandgoes
against his own methodology when he practices it. It is an incorrect statement. And also his (Shaikh Al Albanis) statement that
actionsareaconditionofcompletenessofmnwiththefactthatweseeinhisfootnotesofTahaweeyahandotherthanit
thatheaffirmsthatactionsarefrommn.AndthisisagainstthebeliefoftheMurjiaheventheMurjiahAlFuqaha.Andwe,even
thoughwedonotagreewithhim( )withthisterminologyActionsareaconditionforthecompletenessbecausethe
onewholeavesoffactionstotallyandhasneverdoneanyactionsatallthereisnodoubtthatthereisconsensusonhisdisbelief.
2)
ShaikhMuhammadIbnUmarBzmoolsaid:
Unrestrictedly:(tosay)thatactionsareaconditionofmn.Isay:Thisexpressionmaymakesomeonethinkthatactionsare
notfrommnandthatmncanbeestablishedwithoutactions.129AndthisisnotthestatementofAhlusSunnah.Whatis
apparentfromthecontextofhis(ShaikhAlAlbanis)speechisthatheintendsthatbeingdeficientindoinggooddeedsdoesnotrender
onesmnnullandvoid.Thereforeheintendsbythisstatementarefutationupontheonewhomakesactionsaconditionofcorrectnessof
mnthathedoesnotdosin,andthatthepersondoesnotfallintodeficiency,notthathewantsthatmnisestablishedwithoutactionsin
thefirstplace.AndAlAlbanihasestablishedthatactionsmustbepresenttoestablishmn.130AsIsawinthesecondparagraph
andIwillincreaseitwithsomespeechbyhimregardingthisissuewhenhesaid:
AnduponthiswhenaMuslimsaysLaIlahaIllAllahbyhistongue,itisuponhimtojoinwithitknowledgeofthisspeechinsummary
andthenwithdetail.Ifheisthathehasknowledge,borewitnesstothetruthandbelieved,thenheistheonewhohastrulycarriedoutthat
whichiswithintheAhadeeththatIhavementionedbefore.AndfromitishisstatementsallAllhualayhiwasallamwherehepoints
towards something of detail which I have previously mentioned: Whoever says La Ilaha Ill Allah it would benefit him at a time.
Meaning:thisgoodwordafterknowledgeofitsmeaningsafeguardshimfromdwellinginthehellfireforeverandIrepeatthissoitwould
remaininthemind.Itispossiblethathemaynothaveestablishedbywhatisfollowedfromitfromcompletegoodactionsandstaying
awayfromsin.However,heissafefromMajorShirkandestablishedwhatisfollowedbyitandwhatisobligatedbyitfromtheconditions
ofmnfromtheactionsoftheheartandwhatisapparentaccordingtothedeductionaccordingtosomeofthepeopleofknowledgeand
thereisdetailinthisandthisisnotthetimetogoforth(indetail)regardingthistopic.(Speechfinished)FromthatwhichIwouldliketo
drawattentiontowhichisimportant:
ThatitisupontheMuslimtomakeeffortregardinghisspeechinShareeyahmatterstogoinaccordancewiththespeechthatisnarrated
intheNobleQuran,thePropheticSunnahandwhathasbeennarratedfromtheSalafUsli.Youseehereanexampleofthat.Verily,in
the issue of mn statements which were not narrated were used regarding it and as a result this cause confusion which was not the
intention.Fromthemistheirstatement:Actionsareaconditionofcompletenessofmn,andtheirstatement:Actionsarea
condition of correction for mn, for verily the generality of these statements makes one think that these are from the ways of the
peopleofinnovation.
129
LikeAmjadhasbeenadvocatingforover15yearsnow!
AndAmjadopposestheShaykhinthisaspect!
130
Thefirstofwhich,whenstatedinitsgenerality,makesonethinkthatitistheMadhaboftheMurjiahwhosaythatactions
arenotfrommnandthatmnisestablishedwithoutactions.Andthesecondmakesonethink,whensaidinitsgenerality,about
the way of the Khawarij, therefore if one is deficient regarding his actions his mn is not correct. And the truth is that these
statementsareMujmal(meaningthattheycannotbeunderstoodexceptifexplained)itisamusttoclarifythem.Thereforeit
isnotacceptedandnotnarratedexceptafterexplainingindetailtheintentionofthosewhosayit.Ifitisthattheonewhosaid
thatactionsareaconditionofmnthatbeingdeficientinactionsisareasonforthereductionofmnandthatitincreasesinobedience
anddecreasesinsinanditcanreduceuntilitcompletelyleavesifitisthatheleavesoffactionstotallywithhisabilitytodothemwithout
anything preventing him from such then this is the meaning of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaah. However, the expression is incorrect.
However,ifhewantsbyitthatmnisestablishedwithoutactionsandthatactionsarenotfromtherealityofmnthen
thisisthestatementoftheMurjiah131
We say: We can clearly see that alagh Musa gave Amjad numerous proofs that the kalm of alAlbn and Ibn ajar was
incorrect.Thistwoyearsago!YetAmjadignoresmorethan12scholarsandstartslookingforwaysout!
BecauseAmjadquotesashShaykhRabatotaloftwotimeswewillalsouseaspecificquote:
AshShaykhRabwasaskedasitoccursinhisMadjmookoetoebwaRasaailwaFatwbook15page207:
Thequestion:DoesthesayingofalAlbaaniethatactionsareShartKamlandnotShart132SihhamakehimaMurji?
AsShaykhRabresponded:
WearenotabletosaythatheisaMurjiwiththisspeech,thisspeechistakenagainsttheShaykhandwedontacceptitandwe
say:ThatactionsareaJuzòfalmnandnotaShart.AndthisissaidbyalfidhIbnHajarandotherssaidit.Andwehopethat
theShaykhreturnsfromthis(speech)andthatitisexplainedtohim.Andafterthisobrothers,noteverypersonthatfallsinsomethingof
bidahiscalledmubtadi,noteverypersonthatfallsinbidaiscalledmubtadi,thisisjustthemadhaboftheadddiyyah..133
TheShaykhwentontoexplaincertainthingsandwasaskedagainonpage208:
131
LikeAmjadwantsustobelieve
Inhisarticle,IsitallowedtodescribewithIrjawhosays:ThatalImaanistheaslandthatalamal(actions)arekamaal(perfection)(far:branch),of
ashShaykhRabiwrittenin1427,approximately8yearsago,ashShaykhRabiallofthesuddendefendedtheuseoftermslikeshartkamaal(conditionof
completeness)andfar(branch)relatedtoactionsofthelimbs!
Thiswhilehewasclearlyopposedtotheseterms!SothisshowsthatasShaykhRabichangeinthisorientationandthatheopposestheScholarsinthisregard!
133
DoyoureadAmjad?Soifwesaythatsomethingisbidah,withtheunderstandingofthescholars,wedontdeclaresomeonetobeamubtadi!Soleave
yoursemiintellectualattacksfortherealHaddaadiyyahandQutbiyyahandstopslanderingAhlusSunnah!
Soyourfootnoteonpage4748inwhichyoustate:
andthisissimilartowhattheadddiyyahhavedoneonthisissueofalAlbnandthestatement"actionsareaconditionfortheperfectionofmn."
ThecontemporaryadddiyyahplayuponthesetypesofissuesinordertoaccuseAhlalSunnahofIrj,andthisiswhatwealsofindfromthefollowersof
Yayalajr.FromthemisAbFujrAbdalFattalKanadialSmlandalsoMsaMillingtonfromTrinidad,twoignoramuseswhoattemptedtostir
upthisissueinordertojustifyandpropagatetheaccusationofIrjoutofhatredforthesakeoftheirleader.
WasagainaliefromyourpartbutthisvileandimpolitebehaviorisbecomingannoyingfromAmjad!Becausethesetwobrothersspreadthetruthinthisissue.
YoujustattackthembaseduponyourIrdjaaorientationswhichyouinheritedfromalHalabeeasweproved.Thenyoubuildwalaaandbaraaaroundthis,may
AllaahguideyouAmjad!
132
Question:OShaykhofours,isalmnshartinsihhainactionsorinkamlihi(itscompleteness?
AsShaykhRab:ActionsareaJuzòfalmnbecauseashShartobrothersisliketheUsuliyyoonandotherthanthemsay:Ashshartis
outsidetheessence,asfortheJuz`,thanitisinsidetheessence.
TheShaykhthancomparedalmntoatreeandconcludedbysaying:
SothisisthedifferencebetweenashshartandalJuz`,soactionsareaJuzòfalmnandnotashartregardingtoit,andthisisfromthe
mistakesinwhichsomeUlamaafell.
SowesaytoAmjad:Whatdoyousayaboutthisspeech?IsashShaykhRabaaddd?IsheaccusingImmalAlbaanieof
Irj?Ordidhejustrefuteafalsestatement,evenifalImmalAlbaaniesaidit?TheproblemwithyouAmjadisthatyoudont
understandthisknowledgebasedissuesliketheUlamaado,andyouareveryillmannered!Andyou,againaftertheHalabee
disaster,stilltrytospreadIrj!
Amjadsaysonpage67:
Andalfidhalakamhassimiliarwords,AndthedifferencebetweenthismeaningthesayingoftheMutazilahandbetweenthe
sayingoftheRighteousSalafisthattheSalafdidnotmakealloftheactionstobeaconditionforvalidity(shariah).Rather,theymade
manyofthemaconditionforperfection,justasUmarbinAbdalAzizsaidregardingthem,Whoeverperfectsthemhasperfectedmn,
andwhoeverdoesnotperfectthemhasnotperfectedmn.ButtheMutazilahmadeallofthemaconditionforthevalidity(ofmn),and
Allhknowsbest.
Wesay:ReadcarefullyAmjad
and between the saying of the Righteous Salaf is that the Salaf did not make all of the actions to be a condition for validity (shar
iah).Rather,theymademanyofthemaconditionforperfection
SoalfidhalakamQclearlystatesthatmanyactionsareaconditionforperfectionandnotallactions!Sosomeof
theactionsareaconditionforvalidity!
ThefollowingquoteofalfidhalakamQclarifiestheissueevenfurther:
InthebookAlImaanIndaasSalafthisShaykhisalsoquotedwithmukamkalmonpage51ofvolume2:
AftertheShaykhmentionedtheadthabouttheheartandwhenitbecomesgoodthewholebodywillbecomegood.
And from this it becomes clear to you that the ones from Ahl asSunnah who say about alImn, that it is tasdeeq in its outward
language, that they meant atTasdeeq alIthaanie (which includes actions which are shown outwards) which necessitates alInqiyaad
(submission)dhaahiran(outwardly)andbaatinan(inwardly),andtheydidntjustintended(thelinguisticmeaningof)attasdeeq
Amjadsaysonpage68:
These phrases (shar iah, shar kaml) can be found in the statements of the Scholars, such as Shaykh Ibn Bz, Shaykh Ibn al
Uthaymnandothers.
LetsseeifAmjadusesthesephrasesinthesamemannerasthescholars.
Onpage68AmjadquotesIbnUthaymin:
ShaykhIbnalUthaymn( )saidinhisSharofalNawawsFortyadth,Andthereisnoneedforustosaywhatiscirculating
now,betweentheyouthandthestudentsofknowledge:Areactionsfromtheperfectionofmnorfromthevalidityofmn?Thereisno
needforthisquestion,meaningthatapersonasksyouandsays:Areactionsaconditionofperfectionofmnoraconditionofthevalidity
of mn? We say to him: the Companions ( ) are more noble than you, more knowledgeable than you, and more eager than you for
goodness.AndtheydidnotasktheMessenger( )thisquestion.Therefore,whatsufficesthemsufficesyou.Whenevidenceshowsaperson
leavesIslmbythisactionthenitbecomesaconditionforthevalidity(iah)ofmn.Andwhenevidenceshowsthathedoesnotexit
(Islm) it becomes a condition of the perfection (kaml) of mn. The topic has ended. As for trying to contend and refute and make
disputation,suchthatwhoeveropposesyou,yousaythisoneisaMurjiandwhoeveragreeswithyou,youarepleasedwithhim,andifhe
adds,yousaythisoneisfromtheKhawrij,thenthisisnotcorrect.Forthisreason,mycounseltotheyouthandstudentsofknowledgeis
thatyouleaveinvestigationofthismatter,andthatwesay:WhatAllh,theExaltedandHisMessenger( )havemadeaconditionforthe
validityofmnanditsremaining, thenitiscondition,andwhateverhasnot [beenmadeacondition],thenno,[andthroughthis]we
settlethematter.
Wesay:ItiswellknowthatIbnUthayminperformstakfrupontheonewholeavestheprayer,sowhydoesAmjadquotehim?
AlsoAmjadopposesthisandclaimedbackin2000andnowin2014thattheoneswhoopposehisownvisiononalmnandal
KufrareactuallyadddiyyahandQutbiyyah,whilewespreadthevisionandwarningsoftheScholarsinthisrespect!
SoifAmjadweretofollowthisgoldenadvice,hehadreturnedtothesayingsoftheProphetandhiscompanionsandthe
IjmoftheSalaf.Insteadofusingphraseslikeshartkaml,andmisusingspeechofthescholarswhousethisterm,thanhetries
tohidebehinditandspreadhisvenom.
AmjadwentontoquotealImmIbnBzonpage69:
Shaykh Ibn Bz ( ) in response to the question of Shaykh Abd alAzz alRji as to whether actions are a condition of validity or
perfectioninmnreplied,Fromtheactionsarethosewhichareaconditionforthevalidity(iah)ofmn,mnisnotvalidwithout
them,suchasprayer.Whoeverabandonedithasdisbelieved.Andfromthemarewhatamounttoaconditionfortheperfection(kaml),
mnisvalidwithoutthem,butthepersonwholeavesthemissinful,disobedient.134
ThenShaykhAbdalAzzalRjisaid,TheonewhodoesnotmaketakfroftheonewhoabandonsprayerfromtheSalaf,isactiona
conditionofperfectiontohimoraconditionofvalidity?
Shaykh Ibn Bz replied, No, action to everyone is a condition of validity (shar iah), save that they differed about what (affair)
validatesmn[fromtheoutwardactions].Soagroupsaiditistheprayer,anduponitistheconsensusoftheCompanions,ashasbeen
citedfromAbdullhbinShaqq,butothershavesaidotherthanthis.Savethatthegenusofjinsalamal)mustbepresentforthevalidity
of mn in the view of all of the Salaf, for this reason mn to them is speech, action and belief, it is not valid except with all of them
together.135
Wesay:Thehighlightedyellowpartisessential:
Amjad,again,explainsthisissuehimselfwhiletwistingthemeaningofIbnBazswords,andwellhighlightthedeviation:
Amjadsaysonpage69:
OnecanseetheclearintentbehindtheuseofthephrasessharkamlandsharsihhahbytheseScholarsistoseparatethoseactionswhose
abandonmentleadstothenullificationofmnandthoseactionswhoseabandonmentleadstodeficiencyinmn.AndIbnBzacknowledges
thedifferingviewswhenhesaid,No,actiontoeveryoneisaconditionofvalidity(shariah),savethattheydifferedaboutwhat(affair)
validatesmn[fromtheoutwardactions].Soagroupsaiditistheprayer,anduponitistheconsensusoftheCompanions,ashasbeencited
from Abdullh bin Shaqq, but others have said other than this... From this, the difference between Imm Ibn Bz and those Takfr
addds,isthatIbnBzacknowledgesthatwhilstsomestatethatapersonmustprayinorderforhismntobevalid,othershavesaid
other than this, meaning other scholars do not agree that prayer is requied to validate mn as theyhold itsabandonment is not the kufr
whichexpelsfromthereligion,butthatwhichmakesapersonagreatandevilsinnerandwhichisaroutetomajordisbelief.Likewise,when
Imm Ibn Baz says, that the genus of action must be present for mn to valid, this can only mean the prayer for those who hold its
abandonment to be kufr. Because upon this view, if a person abandoned the prayer but removed something harmful from the floor ( or
broughtanyotheraction,largeorsmall),hehasbroughtthegenusofaction(jinsalamal)yetheisstilladisbelieverinthisview,duetohis
abandonment of prayer. How can he still be a disbeliever when he has clearly brought the genus of action indicating that he has brought
134
WewilladdafootnoteofasShaykhalFawzaanwhichAmjadleaves:
AshShaykhSlialFawzncommentatedonthispointstating:ButJinsalAmal(genusofac on)isfromtherealityofalmn(minaqqatilmn),notjust
ashart(condition)only!
135
AshShaykh Sli alFawzn commentated on this point stating: Ahl asSunnah and the Khawrij and the Mutazilah say: almn is Qawl andAmal and
I qd,exceptthattheKhawrijandtheMutazilahsay:almnvanisheswiththevanishingofalAmalmutlaqan(sowiththemac onsareabsolute).AndAhl
asSunnahsay:FromalAmalthereiswhatcausesalmntovanishwithitsdisappearance,likeaalh,theonewholeavesitdisbelieveswiththedisbelieve
thattakesoneoutofthereligion,basedupontheauthenticproofsthathavecomeonthissubject.AndfromalAmliswhatcausesalmntodecreasewith
thedisappearanceofit,anditdoesnotdisappearintotalityliketherestofalAml.
something of outward mn to validate the truthfulness of the inward mn? So using the word jins alamal creates this ambiguity and
confusion.Thecentralissueinrealityisabandonmentofprayer.
Wesay:WhyAmjaddoyouexplainthisissuewithyourownwords,youqoutedImmIbnBzwhosaid:
Shaykh Ibn Bz replied: No, action to everyone is a condition of validity (shar iah), save that they differed about what (affair)
validatesmn[fromtheoutwardactions].Soagroupsaiditistheprayer,anduponitistheconsensusoftheCompanions,ashasbeencited
fromAbdullhbinShaqq,butothershavesaidotherthanthis.Savethatthegenusofaction(jinsalamal)mustbepresentforthe
validityofmnintheviewofalloftheSalaf,forthisreasonmntothemisspeech,actionandbelief,itisnotvalidexcept
withallofthemtogether.
SoIbnBzacceptsthedifferenceofopinionbuthesaysthatalloftheSalafhavetheviewthatjinsalamalmustbepresent!
SoAmjadcantmakethedistinctionbetween:
1.
Amanwhodoesactionswiththelimbslikefasting,givingcharity,yethedoesntpray,aboutthispersonthescholarshavea
differenceofopinion.
2.
Amandoesntpray,fastnordoesanyactionwiththelimbs,aboutthispersonthescholarsdonthaveadifferenceofopinion.
So the mistake is in Amjads head and he doesnt understand the speech of the scholars! We leave aside that Amjad himself
mentionedthesourcefromwhichthequotecomes:
MentionedbyImalSinninAqwlDhawalUrfn
ThisbookiswrittentorefutetheclaimthatThatonewholeavesallactionsfromthelimbscanbeaMuslim.AshShaykhalFawzn
alsohelpedtheauthor!ButAmjaddoesntreturntoscholars!
Onpage70AmjadquotesasShaykhZaydalMadkhalee:
ShaykhZaydalMadkhalsaid,Sothey(theMurjiah)didnotdifferentiatebetweenjinsalamal(actioninprinciple,initsgenus)and
whichisconsideredaconditionforthevalidityofmn(sharfiiatalmn)withAhlalSunnahandbetweentheindividualelements
andinstancesofactiontheabandonerofwhichisnotperfectinmn.
Wesay:ThesameholdsforAmjadaswehaveshownclearly.ForAmjadtheonewholeavesallactionswiththelimbscan
still be Muslim. While ashShaykh Zayd refutes this!136 And says that there is no difference of opinion with the Salaf
regardingtheleavingofallactionsofthelimbs.137
ThenAmjadquotesasShaykhalGhudayaanonpage71:
And Shaykh Abdullh alGhudayn said, mn is speech, action and belief and action is condition for the validity (shar siah) of
mn,andtheMurjiahdonotmakeactionaconditionforthevalidityofmn,meaning(tothem)thatapersondoesnotpray,norfast,
norgivezakhandheabandonsallofthecommandmentsandfallsintotheprohibitions,andtheysayheisabeliever,becausetaqis
sufficientformn.Nodoubtthisisignorance.
Wesay:AshShaykhalGhudayynrefutesthenoticethatalamalisshartkamlinhisspeechandmakesitashartforsihhatal
amal!
Secondlywe(bywayofalaghMusaMillington)alreadyquotedashShaykhalGhudayyn138:
StatementofShaikhAbdullhAlGhudayyn:
ShaikhGhudayynwasasked:InthistimethereisabookontheinternetcalledDalailWalBurhaananditestablishesthatthe
rulingontheonewholeavesofftheactionsofthelimbsisanissueofdifferencebetweenAhlusSunnahanditisnotlawfulto
dislikeitorcallpeopleinnovatorsasaresult.139
TheShaikhanswered:InrealitythisisthestatementoftheMurjiah.ThisisthestatementoftheMurjiahwhomakeactionsa
(condition) for completeness and not in the correctness of mn. Meaning they say: If a person believes in his heart and he
neitherpraysnorfastsnormakesUmrahnormakesHajjandhedoesalltheHaraamactsthenheisacompletebeliever.And
thisisincorrect.
Thanonpage7172AmjadquotesashShaykharRajihi,whiletheShaykhsays:
.Sotheonewhosaysactionisshartkamlorshartiah,wesay,thisisthemadhhaboftheMurjiah,youhaveexpelledactionsfrom
theessenceofmn.Eitheryousay,Actionentersintothemusammaaofmnorisapartofmn.Ifyousayactionisnotfrommn,
thenyouarefromtheMurjiahirrespectiveofwhetheryousaidshartkamlorshartsihhah,orthatitisanevidenceformn,orrequired
bymn,orafruitofmn.EveryonewhoexpelsactionfrommnthenheisfromtheMurjiah,isthisclear?...Sotheonewhosays:
Actionisaconditionofperfection(shartkaml)oraconditionofvalidity(shartiah),hehasexpelledactionfrommnandhasthus
136
http://sites.google.com/site/tahmilmilafet/Home/zaidshafa3a.mp3
http://antiirja.net/sound/fatwa/zaidtarekamal.mp3
139
Like Amjad is spreading. AsShaykh Rabi did help the author of this book and 3 Ulama have criticized this book: The Mufti and alFawzaan also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKAs_Jn8AM
Wedonotusethetermsusedinthisyoutubefilm.Wejustwanttospreadthewordsofthese3Ulamaregardingthisbookandtheissuewearediscussing!
137
138
becomefromtheMurjiah...sothisnewsaying,theysaid:shartkamlorshartsiah,heistobeputalongsidetheMurjiahbecausehe
expelledactionfrommn.
Wesay:Amjadthinksthatheissavebecauseheclaimsthatactionsfromthelimbsarefromalmn,sooneclearlyseesthetalbs
ofAmjad.BecauseashShaykharRajihihasotherspeech:140
TheShaikhwasasked:Areactionsapillarofmnorapartofitorisitfromtheconditionsofcompleteness?
Heanswered:mnisspeechbythetongueandtheheartandactionsoftheheartandactionsbythelimbsaswhatcamebefore.Anditis
notsaiditisaconditionofcompletenessorthatitisoutsideofmnorthatitisfromthosethingswhicharecompulsoryofmnor
fromthatwhichfollowsmnoritisanevidenceformn.AllofthesearethestatementsoftheMurjiah.
Hewasaskedalso:
Therearethosewhosaythatmnisfromstatementsandactionsandbeliefbutactionsarefromtheconditionsofthecompletenessin
it.Andtheysay:Thereisnodisbeliefexceptinbelief(intheheart).IsthisstatementfromthestatementsofAhlusSunnah?
Heanswered:ThesearenotfromthestatementsofAhlusSunnah.AhlusSunnahsaymnisspeechofthetongue,statementsoftheheart
and actions by the limbs and actions by the heart. And from their statements is that mn is statements and actions. And from their
statementsisthatmnisspeechactionsandintentions.Thereforemnmusthavefourcomponents:
1.Statementofthetongue
2.Statementsoftheheartandthisisaffirmationandbelief
3.Actionsoftheheartandthisisintentionandsincerity.
4.Actionsofthelimbs.Thereforeactionsareapartofthesefourcomponents.
It is not said that actions are a condition for completeness or that it is what is compulsory (from mn) these are the
statementsoftheMurjiah.WedonotknowfromAhlusSunnahastatementthatsaysthatactionsareaconditionofcompleteness.
Wesay:AshShaykharRajihihasmanyrefutationsonpeoplelikeAmjadwhoclaimthatactions fromthelimbsarefromal
mn, but one can be believer without these actions from the limbs! So why quote this Shaykh Amjad? He is one of the
mashaykhthatisveryclearontheseissues,sodontmakeafooloutofyourself.Andveryrecentlyheevenspokeoutagainst
theblindfollowersofashShaykhRab,andhesaidthattheyaretakingashShaykhRabasamessenger!!SoAmjadweadvise
youtonottakeanyShaykhasamessenger,andtoleaveattaqlidalamandattaassub.
MayAllhguideusandyoutothestraightpath.
140
Takenfrom:http://musamills.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/reminderandclarification1.pdf
We can say in conclusion that Amjad is spreading his own belief and he tries to use the scholars who all disagree with him,
playingwiththeirwords,andexplainingtheirmutashbihspeechwithouttheirmukamspeech,andtroughouthisphilosophical
discoursetheconnectionwithhismentoralalabcanbenoticedveryclearly!Buthetriestohidethisbynotmentioningal
alabandhidingbehindashShaykhRab,whileheevenopposesashShaykhRabinmanyinstances!141
Weask Allhto acceptthis smalleffortofours,and toforgive us forourmistakes.AndweaskHimtoguide usandallthe

muslimsonHisstraightpath,andtonottakeoursoulsexceptasmuslims
Abu Rumayssae Ridouan al-Hollandi & Abu Hudayfa Musa al-Indonesi

15th Dhu l-Qidah 1435H / 9th September 2014
141
ForthegeneralbenefitofthereaderweadvisethemtolookintothearticlecompiledbyalakhMusaMillingtonwhichdisplaysthespeechofmanyscholars
ofAhlasSunnahonthemajorkufrofthepersonwholeavesallactionswiththelimbs.
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