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There ls no wey Tor {he back stoncs on the fet ida Winker 8° Black was atraid that if he | se: Showd be at 68. Now Whe played at’ ne would be pressed | cold ethorexcap to he carr wah pula the ight side wii'a move at © | Some stone, of capture 53 on 1 Black sh fret ho ata et fe Posse, of7ePage 12 The result up t9 91 Is good tor siecle e banks Sr: Black payed te move some more iterles because ies SRP ae baa poeta or ne rot fhe. thought this woud be sort, But ite didnt anawer Figure 2 (101-178) 114: Shou be at 120. This Is the ey pain, but Both players overlooked “Sp The biggest ott : ea ts 125, ‘29: Tho wining move, Attor 195 White cannot give ar at 14, Docalse ‘ta lack of bores After tis cuting Seton the games ove Back wins by 135 pols The next game i taken from the second Namur i901 Congrese Bullet ITtook piace during round 6, Common {arya by Wan Gur-end Prank Sanesen Bien Go Journ ack Wir Bogdnor, cn ‘White: Frank Janssen, 6 dam | y 11 ABogdanov move, unusual 12 Meg Sa be rele to iat 18 recy to make the tack Iatot more power Figure 1 (1-100) 19: Wrong direction. Black shoud play’ at 24, making a double wing for falion around hs for lat hos Black warts to play Inthe upper righ fe shoul approach at's which ish Bloges i! "Bad tape; shuld bo ts. oud Mosh ne pie’ Sogdanov 3k: Black should play at 36, forcn nite 48 and thn ote’ at 36 The Sasiice 2 and 24 gues White aot Sf Usetlfreng moves ‘2 White's worst move of the ‘game. Good ‘shape fe White 47, Not riya a the cutng poi cefences Bich Go Jounal ret a mre mae pn ee teas sts feet Resiyeansien mato caper Sores ar a8 eeeede crater to Ramee co Seer aah eas saath eters geri Res Et ad 2:70 mahos beter shape, 80: Foowary, bot atack at 6. 1-22: Bot players mis the val poi Eth ed a to camrct SE This makes awkward shape ater lack poops at 90. White shou iack dotenda at 118 he na ‘a Gand nave fought in he ‘Mores ater 178 are omit. Whee caught up ata inthe Biack’van by 25 pots Page 19 Figure 2 (10-170) © Dosptetis rsut tetra pa {ese payers wor vandoon Subscriptions Jatached and Overseas members, shape up to ate at You can now py Dy io | to te yeas auoncoton whe Fok viously wrong. | ng Thiet th conto nnoy bases ‘% ‘Shacerably for Srssos merous ard mote itachi aha nat | Stes ae cera = ma finders caved and Ghoque to be wr Tenor quto awe! 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Mark Ha) Tine gue a tyousort naw at ‘ha dent play go" but T woud not take at 00 teal) The lee car ey nest tere ts ie Goes, ah wath ok for Behe Bb howto ai ocr ff teopt going an you war I ope {hat oho wonky tough thes, prod lems you ws hve abt tow fo ‘rat and otto, Diagram A Problem A: Wie appears to have lost quite aft on the it and sie ot the: Soard Carne sive the fe stone rousand capture something ot Problem 8: White hat just played at 1 "Hesthincs he can push Black Soup ut Can you spor wat Bick Problem ©: White has [at tn pea area gars Bak wd uta ‘woud Bich Go Journal lsh Go Joural Diagram D spn tara cee the four stones an the bottom 0 {Fove fore nthe eather ny at | pebaly make peat mau Pounteremack? {ony bt cant he do any bate? Diagram & ry cna te sot eta crtararts eee aes rss Sea Cambridge In The Page 18 Taig ty toon sol it ot te cade pee beara Earberscrn se Serene eae ie tee iene oe Ree mort ‘the first round eventually got under way a ry veer ein sontenca tame eoeee es Re aes een geen chesmearsa.cte {dP ps ee rom Waren toy Pee at aga ge pa ee epreertntienas Sere Bn, wo day aaron Mey te wo war fated fox Go Evering n Cor: cage, te oe apc a olow ofthe 1 Sanoyar Sonn Richard ten he Presented the ‘do with 'soma books, go ses and’ ‘mageieesago20 Bitch Go Jounal | ih Go Jounal Pages strong atack Now, ater Black | that in cagram 13 White is again a ion when Whiten Corners ‘Bike 'can’ pick up twos white stones ‘atin 4a Saar Powe yes, | vades Underneath a Rendeap sone fey tneheries Howmerunba deg. | lesng tome stone te process, | town probon fan, Whe can secure hls eyes by ‘hese rm 1 Tey Barker ‘spun at 2 Wines few porns of ttn. Two Biursyctazneery ota ore ae soo how to apy el ta earer \sfomation aon conforted wi as (Sr tu aor. poston, ‘Weve a ben tae with postions ke that n Probiom f. Black Seo 1 {seve suo, cone: one of we ‘ways: festiy “i fowve & because White Tan ieey Yo leave ony Kable groups fon the board" of seconaly. Wal lt ‘avec thrashand soe what happens” Probie 1: Black to play To anytedy who goes along wh the fet theory, avert got ns for Youll The sect ea laine In some Teopecte bar beter to ty & met aes AEP nr 20 wefgnaa See Saas teen vepuegaet aa gee gm seas GooPELY Statens aes "lack can do much better than d- gram 12 Tanking back to legrar 9. So ttow ina Back sin dagren a ea Diagram 19 "pee is i an rap neue RLaniceran ne Serene sctate env nse ieee wane a arcs oes tte Black forcos are reconnected Rela ret “apeer bvous try in probe 1 fs the camp tes in clagram' 14 ‘inte Is almost forced to ve up 10 8. Nox Black has tho AB exchange ‘ny time he thos, reducing the, We ‘rOup to 2 poms of tortor. Notes Problem 2: Black to play Diagram 14 How often does Black play paigaeeecaans t ca tiseciraae tc on [Shear a emiarene st eerie oles See ce eames os eee EL es cna wee Cd Sec toe mT enna TY grea ee Ee atreeaean ings Say cata ote evens’ at te naa t fs ‘and 9 com bination in dagiam 7s lethal The Imistake here is White 4, Thore sa ‘Srongor ovo; emai igure? igs songer move & 4 dla am 18 Retoring back to cagram 7, find tat ater ck’ 8 te group cat Be tiled’ by’, (Remember that Black ‘does rot pay 6 StA or White ean Ive See agra 9)Diagram 18 Problom 3 shows yet ancthor ian that could occur when Wades the comer. Lets ee that happens # ck pays the Oo Problem & Black'o play Aker moves 1-4 In dlagram 19, the net = ‘can manage fea Ko. Clearly Black wil Bish Go Jour! ave to be more maga lhe ito (ai White clean" What happe Wits troo paying at | 2th vat reduce ho avalebe space Diagram 19 Diagram 20 This time, in problem 4, the roles sare reversed and ws are playing Wnts fying fo te tls poser wh Is ey ‘ry aart gure’ Tekan ack ow Black oud Kil the gFOU figure'2, wo, have to remember that ‘More Is'death in he hene. "At some ‘Stage we can expect to have 10 ‘move which slope Back om play fs ano, Le. play thre oursaies. Wt {he nthe back of our mind Its haves Took at agra 21 scant an the 1.2 pont wat white requ 8 val po In Palo tke ta such as Giagram’s How is Go Jura Pago 23 2 | fat as on ht he rn riya ton y siya ‘ie pat tm ei to ake ak BREST cto he ape at Bread a yo Pa Sia by romntatng hana aa aay ee trom scvminte tne |e ae t i” ie Jeb to Recurent Probie ste te wee 08 eo ea aan oovamet (ese stan oe eer Diagram 22 Black pley ‘wnat happens when white takes | I wll dtntly appear In Jas, but the ater 12 poi, Whiten lg: | for the pros, for the bent of ew fam 29" Black 2 ie foreed, but now | readora ‘hero le the problem aga ‘it 3~one of tne points fora Back | (Sony. Bob)