Day 5 Friday 2 November

Evidence of Ronnie Fraser

Mark Osborn cross- examined by Matthew Purchase
MP Pete Green incident. The chair ased him to withdraw his statement!
M" a#ter heated exchan$e between me and Green the chair eventua%%y intervened&
MP Po%itica% view!
M" 'e is a (o%itica% anima% but his (o%itics are dis$ustin$) #ou%.
MP *ou be%ieve it+s #ou% to be%ieve ,ionism is racist.
M" -ame as sayin$ that a%% .n$%ish #ootba%% #ans are racist/ same as sayin$ that a%% ,ionists are
racist.
MP The notion that ,ionism is racist is ado(ted by 0N.
M" 1 don+t have re%ationshi( with 0N. 1+m bothered by the #ar %e#t) 1 am a member o# the #ar %e#t.
MP *ou+re main$ assum(tions about source o# Green+s be%ie#.
M" -2P have been res(onsib%e #or main$ (ro(a$anda on this 3uestion which has he%(ed to create
a situation where 4ews have %e#t union. 1t+s not 5ust a (o%itica% view. 1t+s beyond a chat) it+s tar$etin$
(eo(%e in a way that demonises (eo(%e in the union and %e#t.
MP "n basis o# their identi#ication with a (o%itica% ideo%o$y.
M" 6%most a%% 4ews are ,ionists and a%most a%% ,ionists are 4ews. 6 minority o# 4ews are not.
MP 1s it outra$eous to criticise 1srae%i (o%icy!
M" No. The 3uestion is what intention&virtua%%y everyone in that room #e%t that 1srae% has no ri$ht
to exist. Motions endorsed 'amas&
MP & Did you and Pete Green have #riend%y conversation a#ter debate!
M" no.
MP *ou acce(t that Green is a 4ewish member& and his o(inions however un(%easant were
(o%itica%
M" there+s (o%itics and (o%itics. 1# he has a view doesn+t mae it reasonab%e to tar$et 4ews. The vast
ma5ority o# 4ews are ,ionist and identi#y with 4ews in some sense