Echoes of Consciousness Transcript

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Module: Echoes of Consciousness

Speaker: Eric J. Pepin
(2006)
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Student: When we were in your office a while ago, we talked about people turning to the
Darkside. Im wondering if youre in this dimension as an enlightened being and you turn to the
Darkside, how that will affect your soul on a dimensional level when you return to what you
came from? So let's say you're a high-level soul who came down here and you became
enlightened and you turned to the Darkside, and now you're returning back to your soul after
your physical death. How did that affect your soul?
Eric: So the question is, if youre an advanced soul, you come into this reality. Youre birthed
into this physical dimension through an organic body natural birth. You then have your life here
and for whatever reasons you are converted over to the Darkside because you've been affected
sociologically or something. You just kind of head down that dark road. Then after leading a life
that would be for all intents and purposes considered definitely Darkside, you die and you now
are having a reckoning of all of your memories. So, more than likely youre going to have had a
history of reaching enlightenment and finding a more positive vibration.
Now the duality is this: its like being a really good person and something horrible
happens to you. Lets say for instance you have a family. You love your family. Youre a good
man. You preach spirituality. You do good things. You join all these organizations to help
people. And all of a sudden one day when youre not home a man comes in, or while you are
home, kicks the door in - a group of them, and they end up raping your children and your wife in
front of you. They slit all their throats and only you survive. Now you become, in this particular
case, absolutely bitter, extremely jaded, extremely hateful, and now all of a sudden you're just
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-2into killing people, hating people, and wondering, What's the purpose of life? And you take all
this goodness and you turn it into a darker concept, a darker image.
For all intents and purposes for this spiritually advanced person it's similar, except for the
fact they can't remember necessarily who they were while theyre in a physical body. So for
whatever reasons they go to the Darkside, let's say. So what happens now is that you all of a
sudden have your enlightened consciousness coming in from who you really are. And then you
have all this darkness coming into you, and theres going to be a duality there that's fighting for
dominance. Either the positive is going to consume the negative and youll find forgiveness in
your heart and compassion and be able to release that anger, or that hate or that Darkside that
was there is going to consume you as an advanced spiritual being and you're going to turn to the
Darkside and be a very, very dangerous foe. It has happened without getting into details. So the
question is that it just comes down to choices. Its just very fast in that state of consciousness. Do
you see what I'm saying? But there's going to be turmoil: what you could say is your Star Wars
scenario when Darth Vader, while he's still Anakin, is now starting to turn to the Darkside and
feed into the power and the emotional crisis he goes through. But also in the end when Luke is
trying to get him to come back to the Force, he has to surrender that Darkside and he's got all this
crazy contemplation in his heart and everything.
Well, speed that up a thousand fold and that's what's going to happen momentarily while
this person is now receiving all this memory of who he really is. If that person had attained a
level of enlightenment, it's hard to shake that state of mind. What's going to happen is that you're
going to realize the error of your ways and that you weren't able to achieve true consciousness in
your physical life and that you gave way to this negative aspect. And the positive will consume
the negative and find a way of releasing that anger and that pain. I would say that spiritually, in
the next life or whatever number of lives you come into, there will be this greater sense of
purpose to help mankind because you'll have this deep reluctance or sense that there is something
that you did wrong critically somewhere. Does that work for everybody? Everybody understand?
Id love to say that Hitler is going to burn in hell for what he did or all these things. The
human part of us is just disgusted with how somebody could so bitterly and cruelly get away
with this. But on another aspect you have to understand that God does not necessarily think like
we do. Do you see what I'm saying? You guys say in one sense this guy murdered all these
people, and he's evil because he murdered all these people, yet you villainize him. Okay? And
-3yet a man will go to war and drop napalm on thousands of people and kill hundreds of the enemy
and then hes glorified for what he did. I've got some problems at my level of consciousness with
these perspectives. Do you understand what I'm saying? So when somebody says to me, Oh
well he should burn in hell, or whatever, and then another person says about somebody else
whos wiped out millions of people in war and burned them alive or something, Well, that
person should be allowed in heaven because he did his civic duty.
This is where I get into a lot of problems with how human beings, at this stage of their
evolution or state of consciousness, really perceive things. I guess I'm shocked at their level of
arrogance on these matters and how they decide who is bad and who is good, with everything
very cut and dry. They just seem to sort to fit their needs or their perspective and they seem like
theyre incapable of really looking at it from a different perspective. Now I can't say that's
always the case because I think there are scholars out there who are really saying what I'm
saying, and then there are passionate people. But, putting it into a spiritual context, when you
have people who are saying, This is how reincarnation works. If you do something really bad,
you come back in your next life and youre punished for that or you have to work off that bad
history or those negative energies. It's just ludicrous to me. It's just absolutely ludicrous.
Now, I hate to say that the Universe has no method whatever. Ive already told you what
that method is. Do you know what the method is? Anybody tell me what you learned from me,
what that method is to who gets into the higher levels and who doesnt?
Student: Frequencies.
Eric: That's right. And how is that determined?
Student: Your intention; your frequency of intention.
Eric: When you look at the sum total of what you are when you leave an organic life, the highest
level of purity you can be at in refinement of consciousness is your energy form. Okay? That
form has a frequency and that frequency determines your access to how high a level of
dimension you get into. If there were a heaven, which I would call a blissful state of
consciousness or an absolute of God, it's what I would call it. This is a core vibration, so in our
-4perspective it's like traveling somewhere. In dimensional terms, it's like every millisecond is a
whole other universe and there are frequencies that you have to tune into so that it manifests and
you de-manifest from the one you were in. What I'm saying is that your access to see what
frequency or dimension you get to go into is decided by this vibration you're carrying in your
heart. So this person who was enlightened and did all these negative things may have been able
to move to higher states and be in the presence of God or at a closer distance. Do you see what
I'm saying? And that is where we sit there and we feel healed. We feel love.
I often consider it in minor ways if somebody was to say, Well, what is it like? I would
say that a very crude statement is that its like (laughter) living in Oregon when it's rained for
two months and then all of a sudden theres this 72 day out and you walk outside and you can
smell the flowers and the grass, and sunshine is warming your body. Theres this certain deep
healing that comes from that. It's not to say that the rain did something wrong to you, you just
had forgotten how much you really craved and loved the light at that point. Well, it's kind of the
same concept. You as an energy being want to be in the presence of this vibration. You want to
get as close to it as you can because it just feels better and better. It feels right. It feels deeply
correct within you like it's healing you and nurturing you. So what would happen is that this
being would not be allowed. Do you see what I'm saying? Not necessarily allowed, but it's like
a buoyancy thing. He has this extra weight now that he has to iron out in his own conscious. He
might be able to do it right away depending on his level, but the only way that you can get rid of
this kind of vibration is what? What have I said is the only thing that can remove these deeper
darker energies within your frequency?
Students: Surrender.
Eric: True surrender. Deep remorse surrender. D e e p d e e p deep Im talking okay. If
you could really go into your heart and have this absolute, deep, true remorse and surrender, it is
the only way to bring your things, but you cannot fake it. No matter who you are, no matter how
righteous you think you are, no matter how firm you feel about what you did or didn't do, you
cant remove that in the eyes of the Universe. It's like saying that maybe a scale cant pick up on
a hair that falls on it, but if it was a microscopic, top of the line scale, that hair is going to be a
ton of weight on it. So is this; like it is for the Universe. The Universe is so acquainted to
-5frequency that it can just detect the minutest levels of changes that are beyond molecular. And
this is the fine attunement. Do you know what I'm saying? Does that make sense for everybody?
So it decides. Your consciousness of what's in your mind, how you perceive, how you feel,
you're trying to get it to match that of God. We instinctively all have a part of us thats of God in
there, and that's what's calling us. That's the navigator. Thats that need to get back to it. And the
only way to get back to that source is to mimic that vibration so the vibration fits. Its perfectly
fitted, like Lincoln logs. Call it whatever you want, but its a seamless fit so that you cant even
see the seams. And if you can see the seams, then you haven't hit that perfect vibration yet, but
its wonderful that youre getting that close.
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Eric: Human beings in my opinion really make things very simplified but in a very crude way
and very, a very wrong way. But the real question is, What's right? And then I always have a
reservation as to how much I can really say. Theres always that person who says, You can say
whatever you want. We trust what you have to say and we get it, but theres also dozens of
people who are in the same circle that would be shocked by what I would have to say. Theyre
going to interpret it in this negative or positive manner on the same crude level without realizing
they're doing it. And someone would say, Well, this is murder, and this is villainism and this is
heroism, and he should be considered a hero if he did it. I hate saying this, but what makes you
feel that youre qualified to be able to judge someone like me? Do you get what I'm saying? It's
like you're nowhere in the ballpark to begin to conceive these higher truths, but yet these are our
judges. This is why, if these are the judges, I have to be constantly thinking, What can I say that
they're ready to understand? Because in their world, theyre going to say, Well, that's just so
wrong that theres not this or that, but believe me it's so right and it's so just and it's so perfect.
You're just not seeing it.
You know to the Universe there really isn't a level of life and death. We relate to it
because it's like a beginning and end but as an energy being theres not a sense of a beginning or
an end. Theres just simply consistent transformation. Does that make sense for everybody? So
when we look at life and death, we have to ask, What were your experiences? What were your
transitional moments? What transpired during your life? What did you amass in your
-6consciousness from your experience? What transitions did you go through? Does that make
sense for everybody? And so death is not really reflected upon as being as critical a thing as it is
in this dimension. It's like a beginning and an end, but it's really just like an entrance. It's a
departure and an entrance is the only way I can explain it. It's not looked at as, Oh, what a
dramatic thing you went through! It's almost as if they get it, but it kind of loses its deeper
meaning that is has here because it's so here and now. Does everybody kind of get what I'm
trying to say? So dimensionally when we think of murder, it's horrible; there's no doubt about it,
but what you take with it is the interpretation of that from this dimension. Once you go into the
other dimension, you kind of look at it differently. It may not be as bad or as intense or whatever
and you're thinking, How could it not be? But youre thinking from this perspective and thats
the hardest thing to do.
It's just something for you guys to reflect on, that things are not exactly the way you think
they are. So whenever we try to draw a concept of what these judgments should be or what's
right or what's wrong, we have to always remember that what you guys are doing is drawing it
from the perspective of this world, this reality, this consciousness and theres always that duality.
Do you want to look at it truly spiritually, or do you want to look at it in a sense thats physical
or in this reality according to what you deem you know? For example, you can go to jail if you
gamble here, but if you take a one hour flight, and you are still in the United States, you can
gamble in Vegas and its perfectly legal. Well, if you ran a little casino operation from your
house just for fun, you might get five years imprisonment or whatever it is, but if you did it from
Vegas theres no penalty at all. In fact, youre rewarded financially and people tell you what a
wonderful thing you're doing and what a great casino you've got! It's just horrible.
The perspective of man, I think, is its own greatest enemy. I think that when people say,
You know, I really want to reach spirituality, its that you really need to get into these deeper
philosophical perspectives and see them for what they are and know that you must respect them.
Socially, this is the environment you're in but by the same token, there has to be this other level
where you see things for what they really are and where you don't let it bind you and hold you in
a certain state of consciousness. The same mind frame that you're using to make your judgments
here is based upon what you think is right and wrong. Well, it's that same thing that is
determining your spiritual growth because you have expectations without even thinking about
-7them. You have ideas and concepts without even really thinking about it. It just is. And thats
where we constantly get into asking, Whats the best route to avoid that?
Whats the best route? Non-thought. To think in a clear state of consciousness without
thought because thought is really the judgmental stuff from your consciousness coming from the
organic brain. The organic brain is simply an echo or an absorber of this reality and it's echoing
what the laws and by-laws, and social structure and everything else, are. Your soul still
remembers what it's like to be a dimensional being, even if it's a new one. It simply gets into the
conflict and despair of living in this dimension but you just don't know why you're depressed.
Passing judgment is what it really comes down to, and these are things that you have to take into
consideration. The problem is that it's a very difficult thing to do when you exist in this
environment.
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Eric: Some people ask me, How is it that you think? How do you see the world? How do you
perceive things? What's ticking through an enlightened persons mind? How do they perceive
things? And you know I do give these things a lot of thought and I try to teach everything from
my perspective so that you guys can take it on and try to mimic it in a sense and see what it does
to you. This in itself is what will begin to transform you, so it is very beneficial, but youve got
to get it. If you don't get it, and I put it in quotations, then theres no point to it. So I was
thinking, Here's a way for you guys to think of things. I don't know if this is going to jack you
guys up mentally or not but, hey, what the hell? When we think about other dimensions, we
think about other realities or other worlds and I would propose that, when someone thinks like
this, then we go to another reality which would change this whole reality, and then we would
exist in another reality and we would see how people live and exist. If we were stuck there, we
would probably start to think and act like them and take on their customs. We would learn their
language and understand how they communicate and interpret and how much different it is than
how we do. I would say that you obviously would grow from that experience because it's giving
you a whole new introduction to another whole concept of how you perceive things. If you went
to another world and you had to stay there, you would be able to sample from that reality
completely different things that you possibly never would have imagined before in your life.
-8But the interesting thing is that, when we go to this other dimension, everybody
automatically perceives what it's going to look like to a certain degree. Everybody here was
thinking, Well, human body forms, maybe different nationalities or something. Maybe the
houses are different colors, but we see houses of some type. We see the basic structure of what
we perceive reality to be and then we put a lemon twist to it by changing the colors or the
clothing or simple things. For most human beings to experience something completely other
dimensional, it's going to twist your brain; it's going to be absolutely mind bending for you. If
you ever leave the country and you go to another country, you'll find that there's a part of you
that's resisting the culture change, and that's just a little! Could you imagine going to a whole
other dimension and having to exist there and readapt? Your wiring is so wired in your brain for
this specific structure and content and smells and flavors and textures. You really have to
understand that you would really bizarrely feel a little cuckoo. But as a spiritual being, this is
what we have to do. We have to come in here and we have to adapt, and at the same time we are
also awakening to a higher state of consciousness of remembering who we are. So if you really
want a conflict try that on.
The point is I wanted to suggest to you how I perceive in this way my sampling or
experiencing of this dimension. Instead of thinking about traveling to other dimensions, tone it
down a little bit. Why not start to see other realities within your own organism here in life? What
I mean by that is that we create a certain reality. We have one here. We have this group of
people; we have how we perceive things; we have how we do things, but it's a matter of thinking
differently. What if this was a bubble dimension for us? Everything that we see out in the world
we see from the perspective of our kind of spiritual perspective of how we interpret things. Is
everybody following me? Imagine being able to step out of your bubble and going into another
bubble.
Let's say that you have these SRF people who are at a medieval reenactment, or you have
this other bubble of Goth people, or these people who do vampire stuff, or you have these people
who are Asian Americans and have their own little social world or the Koreans, and they have
their little social world. And then you have other people that we consider being Valley Girl kind
of people, and then it goes on and on and you even have the hiker and the organic people, but
what you never think about is that we see each other and we interpret each other the same way
-9that I say that you guys interpret other dimensions when I just kind of threw it out there. Another
whole dimension!
I didn't say it was going to be anything like this dimension. A whole other dimension
could be something you couldn't even conceive, but yet you structuralize it. Well, thats what we
do with other people in the world. We structuralize from our perspective. What they are, how
they interact with us is going to be from maybe our point of view. We see it as a spiritual way of
looking at everything. Does everybody understand where Im going with all this? What if you
were to visit one of these other realities and incorporate yourself into it as a bystander, a visitor, a
time traveler who has other greater knowledge but you've absorbed yourself into this other world
and you're mimicking yourself in so you can experience it. How would that change your
perception? How would that change how you see things? To see the world through somebody
else's perspective, how would that reinvent you? How would it affect you? Do you think it would
change you? Do you think it would change your personality? Do you think it would change you
emotionally? What do you think it would do? I can tell you one thing: it would change you more
than you can even imagine.
So this is how I see the world. You guys pretty much know the difference. You say,
Well, these are different social classes or social structures. You guys have all your differences
in things, but if you can recognize that more and see them as almost globes of perspectives, what
happens eventually is you reflect on it and you become more in a state of enlightenment. In a
state of enlightenment, I have the main state of consciousness I reside in, which is in this
particular bubble, but when I move into higher states of consciousness I step out of it. All I see
are the bubble realities all around me. Does everybody understand that? The only neutral ground
is in between these bubbles, but that's the only place of true clarity up to a certain point.
So what I'm saying to you guys is that, as part of an exercise to raise your own
consciousness, by looking at other people youll be seeing their patterns. Weve been over
classes where we analyze it and look at them. We scan them; we try to absorb different structures
to mimic them, and everything else. What Im saying is that on a different scale it's interesting to
see the functionality of the planet as a living organism, and that in this living organism, much
like in the human body, there are all sorts of roles that organisms in your body play. And in
many cases they all live in the same place but they don't even interact with one another. Theres
not really a shared communication. In rare cases there is.
- 10 When I see the world I see all of these different roles and things happening just like an
organism, but everything in your body is really working for one purpose and that is to maintain
your life, your existence. It's the same thing if you can perceive the planet doing the same thing.
Theres this preservation for this organism and this life to progress. And the thing is, once you
can start to see the other organisms in life, if you could just perceive it, it's what starts to change
your consciousness. Thats what I was talking about earlier about your experiences, your
transformations. Youre building; youre moving forward in consciousness because you're
looking at things, and when you look at things differently you can get a completely different
experience and that changes you. So you can say that you can understand the planet as a living
organism. You can say that you can see the streets and roads being veins, and people driving cars
are like cells and so on. But Im saying, Now lets take it to a whole new level and say that by
looking at it and then seeing other people for what bubble theyre in, whether its Susie
homemaker or dress and fashion or whatever, that they really live in a whole different reality.
Ive said before that if you go camping and earlier in the day you go to the movies before
you go camping and you watch a nature film on bears and stuff, when you go there and you hear
a rustling in the woods while youre camping, your mind immediately says, Oh, thats probably
a wild animal. If you go and watch a movie that's about a killer, such as Friday the 13th and
then youre out in the camp, when you hear a rustle you kind of get this alert sense of danger
rather than, Ooh, its just an animal. Or you can figure out that it is not a big deal, or you know
its something really bad. Or if you watch a UFO film, you perceive that maybe there are aliens
and you set your mind into that motion of interpretation. You set standards on what your
expectation of reality is. I'm saying that you guys do this and are set in a certain way of
perception without even knowing that you are in it. Do you follow me?
It's about realizing how you're interpreting or how youre automating on a very delicate
complex level. Recognizing it and thinking about it actually can release you from that and you
can see things from a very different perspective. Take, for example, a person who is athletic, lets
say, and their whole thing is sports, sports, sports, sports. Theyre into basketball; theyre into
football; theyre into working out; theyre into hiking; theyre into speed rowing, and who knows
what. When they talk to other people, they do not see the complexities of whatever their interests
are; they see only certain things. Thats cool, but they also begin to assess you. Well, youre not
very athletic. I can see it in your body. We don't have a lot to relate on, and so on. But theyre
- 11 also formulating a perspective of who and what you are. Does everybody understand? It's like a
filter and theyre interpreting it from the perspective of an athletic reality, from that bubble. You
can still work in there but they dont see anything except those functions that they administer to
you. In rare cases, you can bridge the two bubbles, they push into each other and the middle
ground is you getting somebody into spirituality while they're getting you into the athletic stuff.
You find some kind of combination of putting the two together and then youve got something
that might be interesting from that. And then the bubbles re-depart from each other.
But, for the most part people tend to see what happens in life from their perspective. Its
from their bubble; it's from what they immersed themselves in, which is how they interpret
reality. There are different phases that Ive looked at and given examples; Ive watched other
people do it. You can create a perfectly happy, cozy world for yourself and just be like, Oh I've
got magic; Ive created this energy field, and Ive put all this positive energy in it. And
somebody else does not completely recognize any of that, and in their perspective they just see
you. This persons really lost and has no sense of these things and then you think, Well, they
dont know what theyre talking about, and they think you're just a kook. But it's one
interpretation of reality bending into another. It is because of this bending and mixing that you
actually have a total consciousness for the planet. And its all of that which creates one kind of
thing that sticks everybody from reaching a magical level of reality. It's what holds this vibration
for this place thats a kind of reality. Does everybody understand what I'm saying here, the twists
that I just threw in there? That collectively its what makes what we call the norm for reality, or
the norm of how we experience things.
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Eric: So each of these bubbles can be looked at in two different ways. You can look at the
bubbles as being safety zones. Ill give an example. Lets pick on the Christians right now.
Okay? The Christians have their bubble, and then they have little bubbles inside that where they
don't get along with the other Christians, but for the most part they perceive that their problems
can be protected through prayers. Things can happen, of course, and obviously I dont want to
sugarcoat it too much here or make humor of it, but they have comfort they find in themselves
because they've convinced themselves that there are recipes are in the book that say, This is the
- 12 way it is. If you do this, this is what you get. This has created a sense of comfort, and it gives
them a sense of, Well, when I die I have this place to go to, etc. But these beliefs are what
create their happiness or their despair; do you follow what I'm saying? It molds their
consciousness by accepting a certain kind of bubble or a perspective of looking at things, and
that if thats all you know exists, then that's how you see everything.
As I often said before, if you read a really good book, you get engrossed in the book. All
of a sudden, if it's a spy book and you're flying on the airplane to go visit your grandmother,
theres a part of you that feels this nostalgia that you could be a spy, and you start looking around
and you see things in the perspective of how a spy would see things. You start paying attention
to peoples pens; you start to watch people who are writing stuff in their computer. You become
more observant. All of a sudden, you start watching somebody moving his lapel and theres a
metal clip underneath it and you start looking at that clip wondering, What could that be? Do
you really think it could be a camera or small picture device? Because you're now in this
perceptive level of interpretation or seeing what you want to see. Do you see I'm saying? You're
now defining it through tinted glasses and this has become your perspective.
If you read Anne Rices The Vampire Lestat or something like that, there's a part of
you now that sees the world on this romantic kind of level where you see human beings as cattle
and then these beings come down to feed on them, and there this part of you that can kind of
believe that. So now you get into this book, you're really into it okay, and you finish the book.
Theres a part of you that doesnt want it to end, that loves this state of mind your in. So now all
of a sudden you have these bars, Goth bars and vampire people who actually have taken it to the
next level. You immerse yourself into it and this becomes the reality you exist in. Your friends,
your coexistence, your work partners who you get jobs for, these people who live like this open
little restaurants, this becomes your social structure and before long this is your reality. You no
longer can fully relate to the other people outside this world and how theyre seeing it.
The athletic guys going by seeing everybody doing athletic stuff. Suzy Homemakers
looking around going, Oh, somebody needs to fix the makeup on that daughter. But you're
seeing Suzy come by and youre thinking theyre cattle feeding; they dont have a clue. They just
might as well be mindless. You begin to see in a certain perspective. For example when
Christians read the book, or any religion, you then have these organizations after to propel that
state of mind and keep feeding it for the next twenty years. So you cant snap out of it, and go,
- 13 Well, this isnt really how it works. So, these bubbles can also consume you. It's to say that
when you lose your spirituality and you fall into one of these other bubbles; these other bubbles
can put you into a trance and put you asleep. And then youre in this other bubble, another
reality, and it soothes you, and it rocks you, and it comforts you, and all of a sudden now you're
in this other bubble and you don't even know youve leapt from one bubble to the other. Does
everybody understand? You begin to perceive the reality of what it starts to show you how to
perceive things and you begin to forget and rewrite your consciousness slowly, methodically into
some other new perspective.
Now one could say. Well, how do you know you're not methodically into this bubble
and you're not having this ability? Youre seeing everything through your perspective. We are.
But the difference is that were also acknowledging this and saying, That's probably something
outside of our own bubble, which is where I'm going with all this. What is the next level?
What's the next level to knowing all this? What's the next level to all your spiritual teachings?
Its that eventually you have to take it and instead of staying in that bubble, you need to bubble it
outward to take it to the next level. And how that next level happens is that now you guys need
practice in your perception of all of these social mechanisms which are really conscious
mechanisms within the Gaia mind. And by separating yourself, you may be able to rewrite
yourself into it differently, or have a greater control over the matrix of whats happening. By
acknowledging something and seeing it consistently you begin to separate yourself out of the
mix, like oil and vinegar when they begin to separate.
So by being aware of these things, it's what begins to surface you out of all these
mechanisms because you're looking at the source of all the mechanisms. You're not looking at it
and being in your world and saying, Oh, I feel spiritual, or Oh, I see how mundane or how
plasticy they are. It's a different perspective now. You're really extracting yourself in a different
kind of state of consciousness by pulling yourself out of what you see is different states of
mechanisms and consciousness groups. Then by doing that, there is a revelation to be revealed in
that which cannot be expressed; it must be experienced. And this is what a very advanced
spiritual person is perceiving and seeing. They immerse themselves into it and then they step out,
and immerse and step out, and this is whats going on.
So what Im saying is that if you guys can get that, thats something a spiritual person
just kind of figures out and starts doing. But Im making it point-blank and saying it, and giving
- 14 it to someone who hasn't yet figured it out or may not figure it out. Just the fact that you're aware
of it now and you may begin to become conscious of it may in itself be what catapults you into a
state of enlightenment. It's a lonely place and its also a positive place. Its a beautiful place
because it gives you that inner peace. Theres a certain peace that comes from it that youre
really grateful for, but there's another part when you immerse into that state of mind because it
separates you from everything and it makes you feel very isolated if you haven't really learned to
tune into the higher frequencies of the universe, which is another whole level of learning. But in
either case, you know everything has a good and a bad when you start separating your organic
body from your spiritual body, and you start to try to feed your spiritual body, or your
dimensional body, with these things that it requires. Youre so use to starving it, it just simply
assumes thats the way it is and its conditioned itself to accept it and it doesn't think about it. So
now all of a sudden you start feeding it and its going to want more. And then youre going to
have this conundrum or this problem perplexing between the two. This is the spiritual persons
burden in life, to deal with that. A lot of people deal with it already on the minor levels and it just
intensifies.
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Eric: Where does this all go? What does this all mean? What am I trying to say by all this? Okay,
so this is part two of bringing you to where I want to take you. It is through not only practicing
doing techniques that allow you to experience certain things, but you must realize that applying a
certain way of doing something or perceiving something is an effort. Does everybody understand
that? It's an effort because anything that's not an effort is really the norm in this reality. It's a
process. And whenever you want to push that or change this reality its an effort. Do you get
what I'm saying? If you want to get muscles, its pain. Well, it takes effort because you're
changing the norm of whatever program you're in thats auto piloting, because thats always
easy. So whenever you want to step out of whatever the program is, there seems to be some kind
of effort that's involved to change yourself out of the bubble. So there is always this resistant
energy thats trying to keep you in that bubble. When you work with the material I give you, its
going to cost a price. Theres going have to be some kind of effort from you to redesign yourself.
Until you pop into one of these other levels of where I am or where other people advanced
- 15 spiritually are, youre going to have to do your work to get there. By the same token, there is the
Zen-like method; not the actual Zen practice, but in the sense there is a process of what spiritual
people say, Well, forget everything and you will have the spiritual experiences. This is the
duality of what I'm saying. If you want to get there faster, youre going to have to work at it;
youre going to pay the price of effort.
Here are the methods and the techniques to practice. Youll build yourself psychically
and then itll lead to a higher level of spirituality faster. The other one which you want to do
simultaneously, that other people are just doing stand alone, is to remove yourself from
everything. Once youve accepted all that, then all of a sudden youre supposed to pop out and
be able to perceive what I'm saying to you more clearly. What Im saying is you may be able to
do that, but it's not going to be enough and that's why people who have been doing this 20 or 30
years are realizing, I need something more, because they don't have the complete Lincoln logs
to fit together in a sense. Now when I say that theres also another way of perceiving it, its to
say that reflecting is effort but it can be minimal amount of effort and you can get good results.
That is this conversation; its what you're doing now; it's enjoyable and it's not necessarily effort
yet. In another hour or two when you're sick of hearing me, its going to be effort if you want not
to insult me and not say anything. But right now theres a good flow so there's an exchange rate
there somewhere. Anyway, by listening and learning theres a way to slowly transform you. By
coupling the two together, youre going to have even faster, greater, better results. Does that
make sense for everybody?
Now again, where am I going with all this? Everything on the planet, as Ive taught
before, does what? It procreates. Every living thing, trees pollinate and create new life, cells and
other organisms do the same. It just goes on and on and on. Everything has a procreation method.
Now remember when I said to you concerning another dimension. You guys have to think
outside the box because what keeps you in the box while assuming that youre thinking out of
the box is still in-the-box thinking in my opinion. I proved this by talking about this other
dimension. You're not really thinking outside of the box, so it's not necessarily your capability,
but maybe by communicating it, you can somehow allow yourself (Eric snaps his fingers) to get
a little bit more than what you would've now that you are kind of onto what Im saying. Youre
thinking a little bit differently than what youre programmed to do now.
- 16 The planet is a living organism. I say often that every-day people who are working for the
planet are red cells. Theyre linked to the conscious grid or the matrix grid thats designed to
make these living organisms function as human beings to progress the planet to eventually,
what? To pollinate into the universe, so on and so forth, and that white cells are actually spiritual
beings that are more in tune to the Universe, and then some of them into the earth, and they serve
a different kind of role. Most of these people are still on this kind of frequency in their own way
and were finding a lot of those people. That's what we do: we try to awaken people to where I'm
going with all this. What they need to realize is that they need to have a birth within themselves
in order to progress to the next level of enlightenment. They need not to think about procreation
as being a man or a woman or a hermaphrodite creature mating with itself creating a third, but
that the third is actually an acknowledgment by the Universe that youre doing what youre
supposed to do. That if you're not doing the will of nature, nature works against you.
Would everybody agree with me with that when we start to fight nature, there is a natural
resistance? What I'm saying is that by being a white cell, are you actively doing what the
Universe requires you to do in order for it to acknowledge you and to empower you? And the
question is yes, but you guys are still lost, and you dont exactly know how to get it on because
youre thinking in human terms. What I'm saying is that there is a caterpillar to moth to butterfly
process again, three. What I'm saying is that most people have figured out the physical and
theyve figured out the spiritual on the level they're working on. But they haven't figured out or
even realized that theres a next level to that physical/spiritual process, and that is an
enlightenment state of consciousness. But the real question is what is the Forces, or God's,
connection to all this?
You must in a sense see yourself differently. You must see yourself as an independent
super cell in a body. When I say there are red cells and there are white cells, so we also know
through science that there are super cells, which lie dormant within the body and they have super
old technology to fight old viruses that now can wreak havoc on a body. So when the white cells
are all getting kind of beat up and wiped out by these old powerful bad viruses, the body
somehow in a dire need awakens these ancient, powerful old white cells to come forward and to
start battling. If there's enough time, theyll win the battle. If they're too late, the whole
mechanism or universe collapses, meaning the physical body and that's it. The persons going to
die. Does everybody following me? What I'm saying is that you must get the Universe to
- 17 acknowledge you. You must get the Universe to acknowledge what you believe that you are, and
that is an advanced super white cell. You must learn to see yourself and experience yourself as
being a cell in this sense so that you can reflect this need. You must also learn to do whatever the
Universe needs you to do.
What does it want you to do? What is the way that we as organisms would procreate what
we are? It's very simple. What am I doing right now? I'm creating a third, I'm creating and
teaching. Yes, Im mating, in a sense, the physical organic with the spiritual and Im taking this
knowledge and Im pollinating you guys with this spiritual knowledge. Its DNA. Every word I
give you, every experience youre feeling, is a kind of DNA. It's just a matter of thinking outside
of the box. And then by my teaching you and giving it to you guys, the Universe is saying Oh
this being is doing his role; he's procreating his species. Species doesn't just mean flesh and
blood; species is what moves the whole universe to exist. Theres a dynamic force behind it that's
invisible that tells all life to progress and not to kill itself or to die off. It wants you to live. Its
the same force thats saying, Okay, the red cells are doing what their job is, the birds and bees
are doing their job, but are the white cells doing theirs? Are they at the point where theyve
matured with their spiritual knowledge?
How would you say you would go from a toddler to your youthful years to your adult
years? You work your way through until you get to adulthood. Are you now going to procreate
what you are? Will the Universe acknowledge that you're doing what you're supposed to do? In
essence you need to teach, you need to show the Universe that youre giving this knowledge and
that youre seeding other beings that are designed to receive it. You can't mate a human with a
cow and come out with a cow man, unless you eat skittles okay! But the point is that nature is
looking for certain aspects and if you only perceive yourself as being a man or you only perceive
yourself as being a woman, then youve already created the bubble of your reality and the limits
which your mind can consciously conceive and go to.
Its brilliant! Do I need to repeat that? Think about what I said because, if youre
listening, rewind what I just said. You have to see that not only are you organic but youre of a
spiritual vibration and by so doing you also must have a biological need inside of you to
procreate. Now you might say, I dont feel the need to have children organically. Well fine, but
I guarantee you at some point you're going to feel the to need to teach and that's going to be a
way for you to pollinate, to teach, to create more life in the way the Universe sees you as a living
- 18 organism. It sees you as a white cell, a spiritual being and Its saying, I'm willing to assist you,
but what are you willing to do back? Why should I empower you more or make you stronger or
make you more powerful if I don't see you reciprocating what I'm giving you? The Universe
will make you more powerful if you simply reciprocate the need for it because you're doing what
you need to do. Name one great teacher that teaches no one or has taught no one. Name the
greatest teachers that come to mind and have created the greatest miracles, and Ill say to you
theyve taught hundreds of people if not thousands. Am I right or wrong? You must get the
master organism if you will, meaning God or the Universe, to respond to your needs, to your
call, to your sense of saying, I want to awaken to the powerful being that I am.
It's not that you just come in here just to do a specific job and thats it. Is our job just to
mate and it's all over? Isn't there a level of also interacting? Isn't there also a level of co-creating
in life and making things? Isnt there a level of return so we can build? Science might say,
Thats all youre here for as a complex level of breathing or whatever. I would say, Bullshit!
I would say we need to have the experiences because it programs the data of the DNA within us
to have greater data for survival as an organism. Does everybody get the brilliance of what I'm
saying here? I hope so. What I'm saying is that spiritually you're not just designed to save the
world. Part of saving the world is also contributing to the future of the world, to sharing that
data, to sharing that information, to sharing that DNA. It's the same pattern no matter what
frequency you work up to. It's just a matter of perceiving how complex it gets. So enlightened
people at some point worked on finding their enlightenment, but at some point they also decided
to start teaching. And I would say to you, Forget about whatever religious things that we have
now; theyre all flawed. Their histories are. Theyre not perfect. It is in the blemishes that we
now are sifting to find what the secrets are that were lost, and what you're going to find in there
is that they were already teaching in the process of their own awakening; that's what's been lost.
The Universe will recognize you when you get to a state of consciousness where you're
communicating what it is that you're trying to share. The fact that youre trying to share it is what
makes you tune into this other source. It's what's right. It's when something requires little effort
and it just makes sense. Often people that are around me that are students of mine often speak
about a state of mind they get into when they teach that is incredibly gratifying. They say, I feel
like you, like this information is rolling from my mind and I can teach. And then they say they
feel this ecstasy, an orgasm in the process. Its what it is. Youve just got to think dimensionally.
- 19 Its the Universe gratifying you in your efforts to reward you in one level or the other. If you
teach and you do a good job at it, and you get into that zone, youll understand exactly what Im
talking about. And if you havent, you're not there yet. So what I'm saying is that, to move to the
next level of your development, you have to decide that youre ready to teach. You have to say to
the Universe, Im not a waste of your time. I'm not an incomplete being that says, Well, I'm
just going to eat from your table but I'm not going to give.
The Universe wants to assist you, but there is a protocol of life in this dimension. What it
wants to do is to work with you, but you have to work with it. You need to reciprocate that
relationship, so you need to be out doing what you need to do and raising more white cells and
youre to the purpose of what white cells are here for. Where are white cells to come from if
nobody teaches? There is a dynamic purpose to it all in this living organism of a planet. There is
a need, an absolute need, as much as there is a need in your body for white cells. What if white
cells suddenly stop proliferating, existing or continuing? What if they didn't carry that data over
to the next white cell? You never have the same cold twice. Why? Because after the white cells
fight, somehow that information of how they beat the virus is made permanent and then they can
keep doing it. Thats why you never catch the same cold twice. You understand? What are you
doing to hand out what you've got? What's going to make you stronger? What's going to make
the Universe recognize you as being an absolute pearl amongst white cells to empower you even
more? The same thing it did for Krishna, for Buddha, for Milarepa, for whomever. There is a
point where you step outside of the bubble of where you are and you say, I'm ready to be
acknowledged now. Im ready to take this role on. Im willing to teach. Im willing to do
whatever you want me to do.
I often hear people say, I will do anything God asks me to do. I just live to serve. You
live to serve the same way. I said that when we go into another dimension youre seeing purple
houses and human beings with arms and a head and eyeballs. Okay? You have conditions set on
what that is. That's not true servitude. You can't say in your heart that you're willing to serve
because the Universe wants you to teach and that's not in there. What you want is glorification
like youre going to save the world through some lightning bolt from your hand, or some echo
coming from your body that makes everybody in the world all of a sudden purged of evil or
something. Who knows what you think, but you dont even know what you think. It's kind of
conceptually twined in with this reality and how you've perceived from the bubble you're in. By
- 20 teaching you free yourself and you allow your consciousness to move into higher places, but
there comes a point where you start to teach and you can start to say, I need more. You don't
even need to say you need more.
What's going to happen is the students eventually are going to say they want to
experience something, and you're going to have this point in your mind where youre going to
say, Well, I'm not sure if I can do that. I mean theoretically it's all worked out. I have it all
ironed out. I know how it works. I can feel it. Youre going to be put under pressure and what's
going to happen is youre going to perform and theres going to be a part of you that says, Well,
if I fail theyre not going to really hate me and Ill just have to work it out. And there's another
part of you that just says, Well, let's do it. It should work, and what's going to happen is the
Universe is not going to let you down. Its going to back you up. And its going to make the rain
fall from the sky. Its going to make you heal somebody that's sick. It's going to allow you to do
what you've now allowed yourself to believe that you can do.
Remember the power of belief. As Ive said to you before, the reason why most people
cannot achieve things psychically or spiritually is because they don't believe enough in their
heart to change reality. They have doubt, but its a blind doubt. They cant see within
themselves. Its fear of error; its fear of not being able to find that place inside of you to manifest
it. Well, that is the bubble that youre in. If you can get outside of the bubbles, if you can
acknowledge that you need to procreate, if you get the Universe to see that you're procreating
and get the Universe to reciprocate the energy you need, then because it sees you doing what it
needs to do and it sees you working as part of the ecosystem of the universe and that youve
accepted your true higher role, then its going to allow you to manifest and change reality.
If you do not decide to teach, youre only going to hit a certain level, like 90% of the
other white cells out there, and most of the white cells that are out there are still in an even
deeper kind of bubble than where we are. It sounds bad to compare yourself, but we have to
compare ourselves because the fact that were told we shouldnt compare because it's a bad
thing, is itself another one of these programs. In this dimension, you have to somehow
acknowledge where you're at with things so you can gauge where you need to go in a sense, or at
least try to say, Okay, Im there now. There's a sense of knowing, but to get to that point
theres a series of thoughts that you have to go through in order to do that.
- 21 Disk 2 Track 1
Eric: This is why I push for Higher Balance. This is why I push to get certain people on the
phone to start teaching. Ive said for years, You need to teach; you need to teach; you need to
teach. Nobody hears me. Were at the point where theres plenty of material out there. Theres
plenty of learning going on. Its a matter of whether you choose to apply it. You choose to just
sit and bathe in it, or youre going to apply it somehow and youre going to really truly be
dedicated. As an organism, you say, God, I understand all of my roles. So what are you going
to do? So you reach enlightenment? What? Youre going to what? Be like a sun? Youre going
to just become a sun in the Universe and just chill? Theres going to be a point where you want
to help God proliferate His vibration on the highest level. Your job is to merge the physical
world into the higher dimensions and prepare and encourage it to help get there and guide it.
Without that, God is doomed. We are not just in this world and in this room. We are throughout
the entire Universe in multiple dimensions. And if we fail to do what we need to do, we fail God.
But we need to maintain that continued existence.
Weve talked about multiple levels of looking at things. Im trying to simplify it in that
aspect. I think that the most important thing that one should do is to focus on understanding or
seeing that you are not just part of a collective organism. But, at times, you have to see yourself
independently as a super cell and acknowledge to the Universe that youre ready to reciprocate
its desire to you. But you also need to demonstrate that youre worthy. You need to demonstrate
that you truly arent trying to tell it what It should or shouldnt be doing. And you must be
procreating yourself by sharing and teaching. God doesnt think in words. He doesnt think in the
way were communicating right now. But, when you do something or theres an action, there is a
feeling that is created somewhere in that. Its that other dimensional kind of communication
within you and you wouldnt necessarily say, Its this, or that, but you can feel it. Its that same
gratification that when somebody starts to teach and they get to these higher places and the other
person all of a sudden links to you and they are gasping, Wow, I feel it! I get it! Its that
moment. What do you call that moment of gratification? Its an orgasm, if you ask me. But, its
more than that. You need to reach those levels or to say that youre willing to do whatever the
Universe wants you to do. You need to teach. You need to give. You need to reciprocate this
- 22 knowledge. Dont say that you are just a dead end thats going to sit on this knowledge and never
procreate.
Well, what is the purpose of ever getting you this far? What was the purpose? So you can
do some big miracle? What do you think? Were going to help the planet a certain date or time.
What do you think? That we just need this group? Do you think that the Universe doesnt
understand that there is also an evolution of that concept or what? Where am I going? Its a
concept of natural selection. Does anybody understand what natural selection is? Its to say that
you have different species and the weaker species gets beat out by the more dominant one. And
if the other one can create a better defense, it will continue to exist if it can hold off the aggressor
and vice versa.
Well, the Universe knows that half of you guys are going to fail. It knows half of you
guys are deadbeats already and that youre just eating at the table but youre not willing to put at
the table. It already knows that. So, what is the best way that nature sees to ensure that it
achieves its goal in the future? What does it do? It tries to procreate in numbers! Am I not
correct? It creates more. With ten puppies in a litter, it hopes that maybe two of them will survive
in the end. There are universal laws in nature that are true in the Universe. God is no fool. Its
just mimicry. Just how flexible is your mind to see these truths? You need to reciprocate that
youre willing for It to empower you to the levels of an enlightened being. And you must be
willing to do the other chores that come along with it. Who would you select? Would you choose
to make someone enlightened, but assume that this person is going to be able to save the world?
Or would you say, Lets get as many people we can get to that enlightenment level to ensure the
numbers so that the job is going to get done! You tell me which one do you want to go for? Do
you see the logic in it? You must present yourself to the best ability that you can, if you really
want to someday achieve enlightenment. That doesnt mean that you have to do it in the next two
years, five years, or ten years. It doesnt mean that you have to see yourself as the end all
enlightened being. Maybe you choose to see that youre working on yourself for the next life to
get there, and thats perfectly okay. But the point is that its very important for you have the
knowledge that I am sharing with you so that when you decide, Now is the time that I need to
do this, you will understand why, and what the feelings are asking you to do. And you can
interpret it and say, I know what I need to do. I need to start teaching. Im 60 years old and
maybe theres not enough time for me to reach enlightenment or maybe there is. It doesnt
- 23 matter! Im going to serve God without asking questions. God wants me to proliferate and
preserve this knowledge to help other white cells to be more powerful so that when these darker
viruses come in, they have the knowledge that I can give them to fight it off long after Im
gone!
I think most people that go on a spiritual path are selfish. I think that theyre selfish
because theyre looking for inner peace. Theyre looking for inner bliss. They dont reflect on
serving God. They simply reflect on experiencing God. They just want to bathe in the sunlight
but they dont want to help It. They dont want to help other things that can enjoy the same
sunlight. Well, the sunlight ironically has intelligence. It has a purpose. It has a desire and it
expects something from you in exchange for what its giving you. Nothing in this Universe is
anything for nothing. Gods love is unconditional but if you want to get into something more,
something higher, and something to stimulate your consciousness, there has to be reciprocation.
Disk 2 Track 2
Eric: See yourself as an organism thats stepping up to the plate and in your heart, you must
acknowledge that this is what you want. You must acknowledge in your heart what you are, that
youre a super cell. You must not allow ego to get in the way. You must not allow judging
yourself to get in the way, because you will only judge yourself and egotize yourself based upon
how you perceive from your own box. And know that most of you may never ever be able to
judge yourself outside of the box, so dont get caught up in trivialities. Thats the easiest thing
thats going to free you from the box. Are there any questions?
Student: In Thought Reflection, you refer to allowing the tree to grow, to be full, so that it
could provide much fruit. When do you make that determination?
Eric: When do you know youre ready? Is that what you mean?
Student: Yes. Weve had conversations in the past. And as you progress spiritually, you start to
think more multi or hyper-dimensionally and it becomes really difficult to speak clearly. Are
there any techniques to really bridge those gaps?
- 24 -
Eric: Its like this. If you work with the laws of the Universe, they are designed to nurture you
and to help you. God doesnt want you to fail. You just have to trust God, the Universe, that Its
going to unfold you correctly, but you also have to have some desire for momentum. You may
say, How do you know when you are ready? How does a tree know when its ready to give
fruit? Does it give fruit as a seedling? Does it give fruit in its first year, or in five years? What
decides when its ready? Is it because of climate change? Is it because of the rotation of the
planet? Is it seasonal? What in nature is communicating to it? Youll know when that time is.
Youll say, What does that mean? If you have to ask, its not necessarily that time. But you can
also prepare yourself by practicing it. Now that Ive said this, you cant deny that you know it
exists. Youre not oblivious to it.
You have conscious awareness of what I just said. Now you can make two choices. It was
often said to me by students who progress a long way that they feel like theyre exhausted. Why?
Because they had to put a lot of effort to get to this state of mind they are at. And there was a
point that they said, It just seems very appealing to just forget about all this and go into the
physical world and just work my job, eat my food, lie on my couch, have a relationship, and have
children. Well, Ill tell you right now that Ive been hitting the gym. Ive been working my
behind off on the treadmill and working with weights and every bit of me hates every minute of
it. And Im thinking, Boy, it would be nice to just go home and get a bag of Lays potato chips
and sit in front of the T.V. with a remote control and just say, The hell with it all. But I know
what I need to do. And its about how determined I am to achieve that. And I know also how
good Ill feel if I actually can achieve it.
Obviously, my effort to be more spiritual is at least stronger than my effort to get into
physically good shape. Id be sitting pretty well if I had the same passion and discipline for
working out as I have for my spirituality. But Im just trying to give people an analogy so that
they can understand what Im saying to you. Effort is effort. And if youre really passionate, its
just like the athletic guy. The athletic guy doesnt think about what they have to do. They just
naturally are fish to water. Its what they exist in. It just makes sense to them. Its everything
they do. Its what they seem to work well with. Well, reaching enlightenment is always work
when you starting from an organic body. Just how bad do you want it? How good of a teacher do
you have? I hope you have a good teacher. What are the things that are going to help that be
- 25 good? Do you have a good coach at the gym? I dont have one but I sure need one. But I know
that if I ask for one to help me then Im really stuck into more than finding a good excuse to get
out of it. So once you have a teacher youre in big trouble.
Disk 2 Track 3
Eric: Are there any questions?
Student: I have a question about the bubbles that you were talking about. In Discovering The
One, you talk about the Is.
Eric: Yes?
Student: Why didnt you use the Is as that factor this time? Why did you use spheres or
bubbles?
Eric: Well, I used Is because were referring to the consciousness within your brain on a very
similar level. Think of the beauty of what Im saying. Look at the Is as little micro bubbles, and
your own reality is a living organism or living thing like Gaia. Do you understand? Now, look at
the macro and see the bubbles of Gaias mind. Wheres your role? Its brilliant. Im always true
to course. You just need to have the mind power to follow me. Thats all. Does it make sense for
you now?
Student: Yes, Im just reeling this in.
Eric: Okay. We will let you keep reeling then. Does everybody get that?
Students: Yes.
Eric: Does that make sense? It is perfectly logical. Im trying to paint a picture. I wish there was
some magic word that I could say like, Shazam, and everybody would get it. It doesnt work
- 26 that way. It takes effort. Sorry, but youre going to have to do it the same way that I had to do
some time, some place, and some century. Its just part of the process. And its a beautiful
process. I truthfully wouldnt want it any other way.
Student: I've talked to Star Reach graduates about teaching, taking on a student, meditating, and
teaching someone to meditate. Some of them ask, Is there a way to produce that sharing, like a
Tibetan does in a cave when theyre up there and theyre thinking about the planet? Do you have
anything to say on not actually directly dealing with people?
Eric: Well, if you want to go and meditate up in a mountain, thats good. But, I would say that
there are enough Buddhist monks doing it already. Its time now to take a different course. If you
want to do it that way, by all means, that is your role as youve chosen to serve to the organism
of the Universe. I would say its a lesser role than actually directly working with someone. I
think that the effects are different. Globally, there is a balance for the Gaia mind in these nodes
or Buddhist monks emanating this peaceful energy which is like rain and it helps us all. We all
benefit just like a whole forest benefits from the rain. Its just a little different. You could say
that mold also benefits from the rain. Other things that can grow also benefit. So I look at
Buddhist monks and certain spiritual people that are in larger levels as being a different part of
the organism or a different kind of white cell. They are doing their role but theyre holding the
planet in a certain balance versus the Darkside. Im saying that theres constantly a conflict
between the Darkside and the Force. And it theres a balance, that has come out of it. You know
theres a balance. Theres a weight and a counterweight and that is what keeps it steady. There
may be a rock here and there due to outside effects but for the most part it holds steady. Well, the
Darkside is constantly working. Whats working on the planet to hold that conscious level
spiritually in some kind of balance in this battle? Forget the organic level. Its all these nodes or
Buddhist monks that hand down this information from one to another. As the planet becomes
more complex, it too needs to proliferate itself. What Im saying is that as the planet is
progressing, Im willing to bet that youre going to see lesser and lesser of these advanced monks
being able to broadcast that frequency. Its an old technology. Now, the Universe is replacing
that with a newer technology and were it. I know its a very bold statement. Its very similar, but
were taking it up a notch in the approach that we are working on.
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So, if they want to do that, I'm saying, Hey, Im all for that 101%. Thats good. But, Im
saying if you really want to serve God, youll want to do better. Instead of teaching someone to
sit and meditate and broadcast, its better to teach someone to teach others to broadcast, hands
on, accelerating that broadcasting process by proliferating, getting faster, and teaching them an
array of other skills, making them much more useful than just being a broadcaster. Does that
make sense for you?
Student: Yes.
Eric: Okay.
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Student: I have a question. This goes back to global consciousness. You were talking about how
all of these bubbles on the Gaia mind formed a level of law sets for the Gaia reality. And then, in
previous courses, youve also talked about levels of law to the Universe. There is one law for
Gaia, then other laws that supersede that. We know masters on this planet have been able to
perform miracles and all kinds of crazy stuff that are outside the laws of our known physics. Is it
fair to say that on another remote planet where those laws are much looser because of social
construct that the laws of dimensions are just completely different than this dimension because
everybodys able to do all these things?
Eric: Absolutely. Youll find one ironic thing in this particular dimension and it is that no matter
where you go in this Universe, there seems to be a practical sense of physics. Now the physics
might mean that the effects of gravity may be a little stronger, a little weaker, or theres different
level of gaseous forms, or the water may be more or less dense. But, for the most part, youll see
that theres a consistency throughout the Universe, and that consistency is a big contributor to the
intelligent life of any living organism in the Universe and how it micro-fibers down into other
life forms. So, youll see that theres a level of similarities and theres some advantages in some
places and theres certainly disadvantages in others. So, its really a roll of the dice. Does that
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Student: It actually made me think of a question about the bubble.
Eric: Yes?
Student: The bubble that a person has individually within them that create the Is; then the Is
create their consciousness. Their consciousness creates a certain range of bubble that is who they
are and that contributes to the planet overall. And then you just said theres a similarity in a
particular dimension which is a kind of bubble?
Eric: Well, I didnt say in a dimension. I said in our dimension. But if you go to another galaxy,
youre not going to find something completely different than in our galaxy. Youre going to find
that there is a consistency throughout the Universe at certain levels, and theyre not identical at
all. Certainly new things can be brought in from those perspectives. Thats the whole point of
incarnating and moving throughout the Universe. But, there is also a level of consistency of
similarity. Does that work for you? You look puzzled. Does that answer your question?
Student: Yes. I get a lot of questions about accessing the Akashic records, and the data in the
greater grids beyond that. So, the bubble analogy that you were giving earlier was brilliant for
that. Its going to work with so many people that I can think of. And people always want to
access or know some sort of direction on how to connect with that other, more abstract grid.
Eric: Sure. But again, this is thinking in the box. You, as well as all of these other people, are not
ready, and wouldnt even be able to see that data. Youre still looking from a human perspective
in your final filter of interpretation. Think of other dimensions where we go. As soon as I say,
Other dimensions, that should be clearly something that is completely different than whats in
this dimension. Do you see? Or you could say it is other dimensions that look similar. There are
two different ways. But you have to ask yourself to think about creating things in your mind that
youve never been introduced to in any way, shape or form. Im saying that there could be other
similarities, but dimensionally youre talking about things that I wouldnt even know how to
- 29 come up with words to describe some of them. Here we go again. You always want greater
access.
This is my very same argument that gets right back down to just simple serving and then
working yourself up from that. They want the biggest picture. They want to shoot a beam of light
to the Universe and purge all of the Darkness away. Okay? Why are the Akashic records not
enough? They have not even begun to scratch the surface of what it offers and yet now that
theyre aware of something better, that's all they can think about and they consume themselves
with it! And its in so doing that folly their whole level of even getting there in the first place.
They must follow the logical process of building their foundation of consciousness up and
getting through the Akashic record level and getting through that understanding of flow and
perfecting it. It would then blossom to this next level of consciousness simply by an act of
knowing when the fruit should grow on the tree. It just happens! You guys have all blossomed at
some point. There was a point before you met me that you were on some path where you were
less than where I have gotten you to. During this path, you have blossomed and blossomed. You
guys have gone through season after season! Why, all of a sudden, must you always fixate
yourself on whats over the hill? Why not allow your Force to just continue to grow throughout
the valley, rather than being perplexed by whats over the hill? Allow this beauty here to grow
and flourish and continue that.
Theyre not ready! You can sit there and whine, I want. I want. I want. Thats the
little hand reaching out. I want like a little child. Thats how I see all human beings. Its pathetic.
I would be happy to give. Do you know why? Because as a parent, and I am not a parent in a
physical sense, but as a loving teacher, theres one thing I want in all my heart to do. Its to give
you whatever you want. Its what I want to do for my spiritual self, to give to my children. My
children are anyone who hears my words and adapts to my frequency and reciprocates and grows
from that. I have nourished all of you, and I want to give. But I also can say that a five year old
may want a 22 range gun. Does that mean Im going to give it to him just because he wants it?
You must perfect yourself in the eyes of God for God to reciprocate what you want or
what you need. Take an 8 year old who can laugh, cry, read, write, talk, and can understand right
from wrong. He is fairly complex as a being compared to all the other species. We could even
say that he is very advanced compared to all of the other species. Do you think that I should let
this 8 year old child have a car to drive? Do you think that he can comprehend it? He can
- 30 comprehend the surface of the structure and understands what it is. But do you think that he will
have the faculties emotionally to deal with driving and needing to use the brakes? Would he be
able to react to another car? What will happen? It will lead to that childs death or destruction.
Just because you think in spiritual terms, you think that youre indestructible. You say, Well,
Im energy.
Listen! Anyone can have a nervous breakdown, and thats purely a crash of the mind.
You may not crash physically or feel physical harm, but you can crash in your mind as far as
your conscious mind is able to perceive. If you grab onto something too much, then thats what
the structure of the mind that youve built is designed to handle. What it is built on? It is built on
developing in this reality, other realities, and complexities of yourself so you can interpret
information. If you dont have the mechanism to handle that information, its going to burn out
all your wiring. Its like a high voltage. You think, Well, electricity powers my computer and it
makes it have a certain speed to compress data. What happens if I take 500 volts and shove it
into the 110? What happens!? Its not designed to handle it yet and it destroys the whole thing!
So because you know that the 500 is there, does it mean that you should get it? Should you just
be perplexed at what the 500 volt has to offer, rather than continuously working with the
mysteries and the revelations that the 110 is giving you? That is still yet profound compared to
the fact that you started off with a 9 volt battery when you began? I dont say no, because I dont
want you to know. I do want you to know! I want you to plug in more than anything. But I cant
expect you to understand what youre going to get there if you dont even have the faculties to
begin the comprehension of it. Any 8 year old on a good day is going to try and convince you, I
can drive that car! What are you talking about? Sure, I can! Am I right or wrong?
I dont know if this answers your question or not but there it is.
Student: Absolutely.
Eric: Human beings never cease to amaze me. Some people feel in their heart that they deserve,
like its being withheld from them. Do you know what I would say? You can sit and pout all you
want. In the meantime, Im the one whos actually getting to plug in. And do you know why? Its
because I busted my ass to get it. I decided I wasnt going to wait for it to be given to me. I was
- 31 going to earn it. And thats what they need to understand. You want it. Dont pout that youre not
getting it. Dont sit there and say, Everything else that Im learning is beneath me. If it really
was beneath you, youd already be getting the other stuff ahead of it. You must realize that and
appreciate what it is that youre getting. It is only through the appreciation that it will take you
and lift you higher. An order so high that eventually you can reach for the big fancy one that you
want up there. If you dont have the foundation, then you dont have anything to support you to
reach to these higher levels. You can sit there and admire it all you want. But the day that you
decide that you want to get up there and you decide that your foundation is what youre standing
on, you can either stand there and keep staring and wondering with saliva dripping from your
mouth and wanting it, or you can say, Oh, wait a minute. If I keep building my foundation, its
going to keep raising me higher and Im standing on it and when it gets high enough, I can just
reach out effortlessly and grab what I want. Well, its no different. Its the same thing. God will
deny no one. But, God isnt going to hand over something that youre not at all prepared to even
begin to understand. It goes right back to the same thing about good and evil and man judging
man and whats right and whats wrong, and what is considered a villain. When you look at these
things, the same person is saying, Well, theyre evil and theyre good! I want to have a superbeing consciousness! Give it to me now! This is how I look at it. Its ridiculous.
You just have to let yourself evolve. A caterpillar doesn't just pluck wings out of its body.
It goes into a cocoon, which is basically its meditation, its process. In the meantime, it was able
to make it to the cocoon stage without being eaten or killed. It ate and it chose correctly and
didnt eat poisons. And when it transformed, there was a metamorphosis process that took time.
It wasnt an instant change. It just amazes me how people are having little temper tantrums
without acting out on them. They say, I know about this. Now I want it. Why tell me about it if
I cant have it? I tell you about it so that youll want it and youll work on getting it, and youll
realize that theres something even more than all of this. Just because you know its there,
doesnt mean that you get to have it. Nothings for nothing.
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Eric: Are there any other questions?
- 32 Student: Yes. You have talked about becoming a teacher and you mentioned before that Higher
Balance is a new evolution of teaching.
Eric: Yes.
Student: How would you advise your students to go around teaching? Do you recommend that
we go find students out here in the local area, or pursue coaching in Higher Balance?
Eric: I would say both. Obviously, Higher Balance is a blending of us trying a new approach
through capitalism. I dont know how else to put it. Its working quite well. The idea is that we
are now able to circulate data, these teachings, in a format of audio CDs and such that is working
very well. The idea is for someone whos a white cell at a certain level to be exposed to this
information. And in a sense, it builds them up multi-dimensionally. It nourishes their soul. Call it
whatever you want. It helps filter out all the stuff thats preventing them from growing because
theyre afraid of it being an egocentric perception or something. It liberates them from the other
beliefs that are holding them down and in so doing, they are able to awaken. When they begin to
awaken and begin to build their foundation and their consciousness moves a certain way, theres
going to be a point where they feel that they want to do something with it. Well, youre still
growing and thats the key thing you have to remember. But, theres no reason why you cant
start reaching out to other people to reciprocate these teachings. Someone might say, Should I
listen to all of the material before I start teaching? I would say that if you listen to one thing and
you have worked on it and reached a level where you know it well; then youre ready to teach
that thing. That's going to be more than what someone else has done already. So you continue
working on yourself, but share as youre going along with that progress. Whats going to happen
is that youll find that you will catapult to higher and higher levels faster, as you teach more
people. Does that make sense? Are there any other questions?
Student: You were talking about the bubbles through which we can perceive things and as to
how we function. I have wondered how to get out of this bubble. How can I perceive things
differently? I find these bubbles to be really dense for me. I find it really hard to be able to step
out and experience and perceive things differently. Do you have any advice?
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Eric: Sure. I think a lot of advanced white cells are going to be in that same boat. Again, its the
same thing regarding my going to the gym. Every part of me is resisting it. Every part of me that
can find an excuse without thinking about making it an excuse is contributing to me skipping a
day or cutting corners. Do you know what you need to do? Youve got to throw down the
gauntlet. Youve got to throw off the gloves. You need to take your shirt off. Youve got to flex
whatever muscles you have in your chest and youve got to say, God damn it. Bring it on. You
know the solution. The solution is that you have got to teach. Now, you can try to get out of it
any way you want. You can say, I dont want to do it that way! Thats really what youre
saying. Youre saying, God, Im going to do it my way! And Gods saying, Okay. And you
are still not moving forward. Youre sitting there thinking, Im so frustrated! I dont know what
Im doing! I need to move beyond this! Im not happy with anything! And Gods saying, Well,
start teaching. Then you say, But, Im going to do it my way. So God says, Okay. And you
continue to whine, I want enlightenment! And this can go on forever till you die. You need to
say, You know what? Im going to try it. Im going to muster everything in my being that says
no. Im going to stop telling myself no and Im going to start telling myself yes. You have got
to know that youre going to fail, and you know youre going to have success. And you have got
to know that you might need to try a hundred times before you find that success. And the sooner
that you can accept that in your heart and not care about the earthly ridicule, the sooner youre
going to achieve your goal. And its that simple. What will happen if I go to the gym? What will
happen if I keep running on the treadmill every day faithfully? Whats going to happen? Whats
going to happen to my fat ass?
Student: Youre going to lose weight.
Eric: Why?
Student: Because you put forth the effort.
Eric: Did I want to go and do that?
- 34 Student: No.
Eric: But there was something that I did want, that started all of this. What was it?
Student: You wanted to get healthier.
Eric: I wanted to get healthier and I wanted to lose the weight. So, if I lose all the weight, what
do you think Ill do when Im there? Ill throw away all my fat clothes like I have in the past, and
buy a smaller size and Ill tell myself and everybody else Ill never be fat again. Hence, Ive been
through the routine already. Do you get the point? Hey, Im fat again. So it doesn't mean that
once you get there that youre going to keep it either. It still takes effort, but its a lot easier. It
takes mindfulness. The point is that you dont have to worry about that. Dont use that as your
excuse not to try. Well, whats the point if Eric got skinny and then got fat again, and then got
skinny and got fat once again? Why should I try to reach enlightenment? Does it mean Im not
going to? Well, once you cant un-know what you know. Thats the beauty about it. Its a little
bit different than how things work physically. So its probably not the best example, but its an
example nonetheless. You have to deal with it the same way I need to go to the gym and do what
I need to do. You need to put yourself in a situation where you dont have any other choice but to
teach. Its like the insane statement of teaching a kid how to swim. In the old days, how would
you teach your kid to swim?
Student: You toss them in the water.
Eric: You toss them in the pool, or you go in the boat and you throw them in the water, right?
And what happens? Hes either going to sink or swim, right? Now we would all like to think you
do learn to swim because Ive never heard any story about someone actually drowning. And if
they did, we might not hear about it anyway. But, my point is that perhaps you need to put
yourself in a situation where youre forced to teach. Dont think about what youre going to do.
Just sit yourself in front of anyone. If some of you guys are going to put together some kind of
class or run an ad, dont worry about what youre going to say. Dont worry about what youre
going to teach. Dont even think about it. Just get yourself into a position where you put on your
- 35 teaching meditation. Go through the effort to find a room. Go through the effort of putting the
flyer together. Go through the effort to say that youre going to teach meditation. And then two
oclock comes on Saturday afternoon and youre sitting in the room that youre going to teach in
and only one person shows up. And they say, Okay, Im ready. What are you going to do?
Student: Im going to teach them.
Eric: Why? Its because you dont have any other choice. Or you could walk out, right? And
youre going to start teaching them and youre going to start feeling a lack of confidence in
yourself. But because they have never heard any of this before theyll say, Wow Jorge, thats
really interesting. And Jorge is going to be thinking, God, if my teacher was here, hed smack
me in the head. I messed up everything. And this other person is going to be saying, Well, what
about this and what about that? And Jorge is going to have the answers. Hes going to say, Its
funny because I asked the same questions 10 years ago. And all of a sudden, youre going to
start getting into the groove of what you need to do and youre going to walk away thinking,
Wow, I really feel like I changed someones life today. And thats how it begins. Youve just
had an orgasm, and youve just got someone pregnant. Now youre going to be a dad because
theyre going to have some kind of level of consciousness coming out of that.
Theoretically I am a whore, at least in spiritual terms. I have got to be the super duper great
grandfather right now with all the spiritual breeding that Ive done. Ive reached an all-time high
since Ive started Higher Balance. Im really a whore now. But, there are bigger whores than me
out there. Let me tell you.
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Eric: Are there any other questions?
Student: Yes, you were talking about a great technique for redefining your perspective of this
dimension. You spoke of a way to assimilate groups of people while taking yourself outside of
your normal perception of reality and assimilating another reality. You talked about the globes. I
- 36 wanted to know if you could put that in a context of a technique that someone could actually
apply.
Eric: Okay. I would say that people have done this from time to time and they found it very
rewarding. You can start by dressing up. Dress up in your husbands clothing. I hate to tell the
guys to dress up in their wife's clothing but theres a certain vibration and feeling that comes
with it thats very intense because its very physically oriented. Try to put yourself in
environments that you wouldnt normally be in. Dont analyze it from your perspective. Try to
get yourself in the zone so that you can understand it, as the person next to you is receiving it
also. And try to get into the mode of appreciating what youre hearing. Forget what you know;
and un-know what you know for just an hour. Just try and feel what its like to be Suzie
homemaker making cupcakes. Or feel what its like to be a mom or a dad, or what it is to be a
rocker. I was watching a wife swapping show the other day. One family was kind of rigid. They
were nice folks but they certainly had a disciplined lifestyle and how they perceived the way that
things should be done. And the other was kind of like a Goth family. The mother was saying,
Your 15 year old daughter should be able to get temporary tattoos and its perfectly okay for
them to get nose and ear piercing. Thats how they express their creative self. And then they
switched households. Obviously, you can tell whats going to happen. The mother from the rigid
family said, This house is a disgusting mess! You are getting rid of all this makeup and this
jewelry on your face! You have got to fix your hair. You need to do all of these things. And the
Goth mother said to her new kids, You guys need to unwind. Youre too tense and you need to
have fun. You need to try different things and change some of your clothes and try to discover
who you are creatively.
It was interesting because they started to get a different perspective. But what I found the
most interesting was that after a few days, the rigid mother allowed the girls to play dress up
with her. At first, she looked like a school teacher, but she changed her hair from being pulled
back like a Pennsylvania Amish person with no makeup, to having her hair changed into a punk
rock hairstyle with heavy black eye makeup. After they helped her with the whole new look, she
could see herself and you could tell that she was feeling it and thinking, Yes, alright! Oh, this is
what it feels like. She actually said, Wow, this is kind of liberating. This is kind of fun! She
had never allowed herself to experience that before. Then she got on the drums and they had her
- 37 sing some karaoke and she was laughing and having a great time. She was horrified when she
went to that household because she had a perception in her bubble of what this other bubble had
to offer. It wouldnt allow her to see the other complexities and the good things in this Goth
family. So, what happened is that when she got into that mode she realized, These people arent
so alien from me after all. There is some stuff that I actually enjoy from this that I thought I
would be repulsed by, but I realize I actually like it now that Im allowing myself to experience
it. And so, when it was all said and done, she basically said it was a good experience for her and
it helped build her relationship with her daughter when she was being a little bit rebellious
against her. It brought her consciousness into perspective. The Universe has been doing this
since the beginning of time. This is what reincarnation is. Its just done on a bigger scale. We
cant see it again. Its like time itself. But if you want to do it on a micro scale, you can
accelerate it in your own way. This is very fascinating and interesting. So, there are things to be
learned even when you think theres nothing to be learned. Its the same thing. She didnt think
there was anything to be learned and she imposed what her vision was because she thought it
was better. And so, by looking at this, she actually gained something. So the idea is that you can
recognize something. Then you can make a decision, but sometimes its worth experiencing
certain things, to horrible things, not things that are going to put your body or health at risk or
anything like that. Everyone knows right from wrong. Its just that you can recognize these
different realities or visit those realities also. To visit another reality is to say you could visit as
an outsider, time traveler, a space traveler, or a traveler of some kind incognito. Dress up and fit
in with these other crowds. Dress up and go to church someday. Go to a reading for a book you
have no interest in at a book store. Maybe its a love story and all the women are going to look at
you and say, Wow, he has got to be the queen. Do whatever it takes. You will find that there is
beauty in most anything that you find. And the secret is not so much that theres beauty. The
secret is in developing the skill to discover that theres beauty in everything. And when you can
do that, you get into the habit of seeing beauty in everything, and thats part of enlightenment. I
guess thats what Im trying to get at. But, in the same token you also need to remove yourself
from the machinery of it all.
- 38 Student: You were mentioning in the beginning about the different globes and you were saying
that in your experience, youre in between the globes. Is that where you perform the scanning
technique, when you get into it?
Eric: Of course, thats where Im operating from. Im operating myself by removing myself from
these emotional perspective places, because I couldnt teach if I was in one of those, because my
teaching would then be as mundane as all these other spiritual teachers. The reason that people
are on the edge of their seats when I teach is because Im teaching things that nobody else talks
about. Thats because Ive removed myself from even that bubble. Now, somebody might say,
Well, how do you know that youre not in a bubble? Well, Im creating a new bubble or
whatever you want to call it. But, I have to remove myself from the typical spiritual systems and
this is why I have a resistance to learning in depth Hinduism or other religions and their aspects
of teaching. Its not to say that I think that theres nothing to be offered. Its to say that if I allow
myself to go there, I dont want to get encapsulated in one of these bubbles and then thats how I
interpret everything. This is why Ive always admired my self-stylized progress. Ive always
embraced a certain level of absolute truth to students in my belief that if they dont like what
they hear, then too bad.
The end result is that after they reflect on it, theyll see the truth of it. Then theyll be
really grateful that I was honest with them, instead of wasting 10 years of their life telling them
something that they found more acceptable to their perception at the time. I dont want to pamper
anybody. I want to tell you the truth. If you get upset about it, fine. I know youll get over it. Do
you know why? Its because Ive already been down the road. Youll be grateful. Its like telling
a kid, You cant go out and get a whole bunch of tattoos, because when you get older youre
going to regret that. Its just like my friends sister sitting here telling me about her scar on her
eyebrow and her lip from a piercing. I said, What happened? She said, Well, I used to have a
lot of piercing. I said, You dont like them? She said, No, I hate them. I said, Wow. And
then she said, Now I have the scars from that decision for the rest of my life. So, in essence,
Im trying to make you do something and this is why youre coming to me. Youre saying, Gee,
Eric. Youve attained this level of consciousness and we admire you, and we want that
experience ourselves. What advice do you have for us? What do you suggest? So, these are my
suggestions, my warnings and these are the things that Im putting out. The only reason that I
- 39 would be candy coating it is to get you to like me more, and I dont care if anybody likes me.
What I care about is that Im true to my heart. And true to my heart means telling you the
absolute truth the best way that I can. Im not saying that I dont do any candy coating. Theres
certainly is some, but I wouldnt say that its blatant like other spiritual teachers do. I would say
its more of a hesitation to say certain things. Theres certain material that we teach later, thats
not appropriate to teach to people who are just starting out, because it would discourage them as
theyre just not ready to understand it. But, if they follow the progress, its going to make
absolute perfect sense and they are going to embrace it wholeheartedly and say, Wow! But, if I
would have heard this material 6 months ago, Oh, my God, I would have thrown this whole
program out the door.
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Student: Is watching TV a good way to study bubbles?
Eric: Its a horrible way to study bubbles because TV offers you a pre-regurgitated concept of
these bubbles. They only give you the surface of it. Its like Lego blocks made out of plastic and
theyre all white. Lego blocks now in wood form. Lego blocks made out of cement. Lego blocks
made out of multi-colors with magnets in the back of them. You really need to go three
dimensional to experience something rather than one or two dimensional, whatever TV would
be. You can see it, but you cant really taste it, smell it, and touch it. You need 5 senses involved,
hopefully a sixth sense in the end, to really get it. But you could also get a surface judgment from
watching it, but then you know youre also watching it from your couch in your bubble having a
perception of what that bubble is. Its only when you throw yourself into it that you get
consumed by it. Either the bubble will consume you and youll become it, or youll be able to
function in that bubble and have enough strength to pop back out of it. Often I think its like
diving under water. You can hold your breath; you can see the fish; you can see the bottom; you
can swim around and you can experience what it is to float. But, eventually youre forced back
up to the top for air, unless you drown and then youre part of the lake. And its like falling
asleep. Get it? Does that make sense for you?
- 40 Student: Yes.
Eric: Can you get the full sensation of swimming under water off of TV?
Student: No.
Eric: Then Ive made my point.
Student: Along those same lines, when I first came around as a student I would go out and
assimilate these different environments and get my hands dirty by experiencing these different
things. As I developed more sixth sensory I was thinking, Why dont I just assimilate all of
these things from my recollection? And through listening today I realized that youve got to
maintain that thing where you go and get your hands dirty.
Eric: I think people do it naturally. I think its an aspect of life. As far as the organism goes, I
think that people get married, get in and out of religion. You have your own idea of what a
marriage is, and youll find out if its not right or if its wonderful for you. There are plenty of
people who start off in one work career and they move off into a different work career. They find
their inner peace and their inner bliss, but it took them time to figure how to get there. These are
different samplings. The difference is that youre letting life tumbleweed you where its going to
take you. What Im suggesting to more advanced people, which is the kind of people that Im
teaching, is that you take a more direct active role in the control of those decisions and speed the
process up.
I remember when I was a teenager; I would actively seek out churches where they were
doing healings through prayer. I would let them put their hands on my head and whatever. I
would go to carnivals. I love going to the carnival and letting myself sink into that feeling. I
perceive that sometimes its nice to just go to these worlds and visit them. Thats how I see them,
as worlds. Theyre really micro worlds. Thats why I call them globes. I would like to just go
into this world where everything was a magical circus like a child would believe and let myself
revel in the idea of no more problems or pressures on me, no more wants, no more money or
bills and just visit that world. But youve got to pop out of that world. You cant stay there
- 41 because youll forget who you are. You start to think that its truly a reality. But, its fun. Its just
how you want to look at it. But, theres something to be gleaned. Again, there are those little
pieces of something that you walk away with. I think that in every place Ive ever visited in these
globes or these worlds as I would call them, I walked away with something very useful if I
looked patiently enough. When I say the word looked, I mean experience. I walked away with
something that made me have a deeper understanding of life, reality, Gaia consciousness and
everything else. I realized that there were certain things in each one of these globes that were
reminiscent of the other. And by seeing those simple truths, it made me have certain realizations
about the goodness in humanity and man. It removed a lot of bitterness from my perception of
man. I could either choose to see the ugliness or I could choose to see beauty. And fortunately, I
chose to find the beauty in those journeys.

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