— me REDACTED VERSION 1/20/12 ASOA7L Revised redactions 2/9/12 DAVID CLOHESSY JANUARY 2, 2012 1 IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF JACKSON COUNTY STATE OF MISSOURT 2 CASE No. 1016-CVv-29995 3 4 JOHN DOE, B. P. 5 Plaintite 6 5 ¢ FATHER MICHAEL TIERNEY, et al. 8 Defendants 8 eh 10 a 12 Crowne Plaze Hotel 7750 Carondelet Avenue 13 Clayton, Missouri January 2, 2012 M4 9:00 A.M, to 4:00 P.M. 15 16 \VEDEOTAPED_DEPOSITION_OF_DAVID_CLOHESSY a7 - a 18 19 20 Taken before Sandra L. Ragsdale, Certified a1 Court Reporter by the State of Missouri, pursuant to Notice for: 22 23 Atkinson-Baker, Inc. Court Reporters 500 North Brand Boulevard, Third Floor 24 Glendale, California 91203 800-288-3376, wew.depo.com 25 File A50A471 Page 1 ATKINSON-BAKER, INC. 1-800-288-3376ASOAATL DAVID CLOHESSY JANUARY 2, 2012 staat ee Page? Page 4 APPEARANCES (cote nes Fy enon Joven re 1s Ra ese 2 mapentonc TS Page 3 Pages 2 (Pages 2 to 5) ATKINSON-BAKER, INC. 1-800-288-3376ASOAATL DAVID CLOHESSY JANUARY 2, 2012 2 QMDEOTAPE MuMBcK 1) 2 VIDEOGRAPHER: THis the videdtaped 3 depostion of Dad Gatsy. Tim Os Ber, {© ye Weoprapher, and represent Aknsn-Bakr, Sng h Gencal, Clfomia. Tam at. 6 ancl nese in taco nr am 18 7 dave er employee of any of the atereys oF 8 any othe pars. ° “Te dates amsary2, 2012. THe time 10 Warprosmatly 9:54 AN, This depstion is 12 tokng place a the Crowre Maza Het, 750 12 Carondelet in Clayton, Mss, Tis ase 13 umber 1016672995 ere ohn Doe, BP vers MM Father bchael Trey a 18 “The depen Doi lossy. THs 16 deposton Is being taken on bea ofthe 17 detects, The court opr I Sansa 28 Ragsdale 8 Wi the atomeys pease notice 20° themselves? a MR MADDEN: ion Maden for Father 22 Michael Teme 2 MS, COHARA: Maa Cobra forthe 28 locas. 2s MR MEYERS: Tn Mata Meyrs— can Page 6 6 an pli Jae Do, YR 1 DIENR: Hoth Der hereon beat of te deporet. JENSEN: Jeff Jensen te on bea of bai Chessy. REPORTER: Sh, youd as your fahetond sear yun, Do you sweat the testirny youre abuttn ge wit be the teh ‘he le wun and nti but the rth 0p you case HE WEINESS: Dao cOKESsY, fut ge, tang pode sor and exsined, tented 2 allows: ‘xaKINATION ‘QUESTIONS BY MR. MADDEN: 1G Place ate your name, ‘A aid Cehesy, ONES, Me. cohessy my names Brian Madden and Trepreson ther Michael Teney. Have you ‘ever gvon a depoation before today? A Ny Ff ask yous question taday that you donot understand, il you tell me so? 1 Yes se Page 8 1 youhesr me - and represa Father Mark Wontar, 2 tneases ted by ohn Dos, 10, Case No. 3 11160V070%8, and ohn Doe, HLF, Case No 4 aniscvesie8. 5 MR. MOGONAGLE: My name is Gerald MeSonagl and am here representing Monsignor “Tomas, Ben spc to my cess dposten tien the ese of John Dos, MS. v. en, 8 etal, tackean County Gat Court Dion 13, 20 nfo ofthe Honorable Arn esl, Cas No, 2 e-cvo1e, 22 MR. WYRSCH: My names ames Ws 29° Lepesant Father Fras Me 2 case 4 png the Cat Court of Jackson Coury, 25 Missou, Case No, 1116-0¥28252, now pending in 16 ow of ug Oe ro. n In ation represent Father Thomas 18 Cronin who tsa defendant nthe Creu Court of 19 Cletan County, Msour case No. 110-C¥00078, }20 that's pending ent oF uege Capa a1 MS, RANDLES: My name is Rebex [22 andes, tm the attamey on bea fat 23, ohn Doe, 8, pat 36m Doe, 10, 24 plat John Ove, ME, a 25 plat John Dae, MS, pla Jane Dos LP. Page 7 Thankyou. Whats your business address? A, sess adress, — Lwark ik of Frame SNAP headauatres in Chicago. We have 2 pat oe ba, 6415, Tent know the 2 cose, Fm sory, (What is your home adress then that you work out of? MR JENSEN: Objection tong out Nis home address. Mr. Clsessy has bee te subject of numerous death trets ove the ears and theres na reevance to that formation and instruct the wines not to answer te ‘question BY MR. MADOEN: (@ 2sthe home out of which you work focated in the St Louis area? 1 Okay. Who represents you in today's deposition? ‘A. Mle and Jenson, @, Has Ms, Randlas ever represented you? ‘A. Nowell xcse a. Hold on (DISCUSSION WAS HAD OFF THE RECORD) ‘A. Sowhan I lad my ow lawsuit apa Page 9 ATKINSON-BAKER, INC. 3 (Pages 6 to 9) 1-800-288-3376ATKINSON-BAKER, INC. ASOA471 DAVID CLOHESSY JANUARY 2, 2012 1 Father ohn Whitey inthe Dice efron that jit he mare fat at smear ha ed a 2 Cay ~ cat, by he way, Re molest a 2 amo ener necessary nae a ight 9 MM. Rand herhped to prepare 5) yout lem he nae of that nual rss 1 eeforahy fe Im rat sre which an amicus 1 there ect ee the osu that youre eon beat of rgaritons tht spared me 5 reprezetg of 2 last nara © nm da Iigaton. ‘ MR, JENSEN: We woul a9 eet or 7 Allright with regard to today's aesan | 7 anyquesionsttat gt to te ~ een te nts deposition and tis action, ae you represented by et eal ved or ncesiry contac tht 9 Mss Randle? | 5 chests haa wth tos nai under te A Wout 20 Rape Cie Center Statute ashe does at hve 1). Have you discussed tod 11 tharwrten csr ety abou tose 12 with Me Randles prior to today? 12ers, Ad under heme NAACP v.Alsboma cas 8 (OISCUSSION WAS HAD OFF THE RECORD) 1 Tacit ere. u TR. SENSE: Objet that question 14 YN MADDEK: 25 andony comets Me bess may fave hd 15 @ Nowwhen Ms Randes and you talked wth Rebecea andes, he Dass arg the Missour 36 about thie deposition before today’s depostion, 27 Rape rs Carter Staite, 2 RSMOAS.63 which 17 was she contacting you nthe context of needing 18 protien of coridotyo ary 28 SNAP services? 18 ermaten that wool ent nis served 1s NS, RANOLES: Objection, 20° by SAD and any feat or recor that re 20 JENSEN: Sone objection 21 dec ets tothe advocacy serves poi a 1, RANLES: An ject the orm 22 tech ins. 22 afte quasion sence esta re et 23 BYR, HADEN isan |25 " yetinevenc. No funioion. 24. Mrs Clohessy, that brings op 2 MR, ERGER: And suc te aorain 2 FR JNGEN In ation 14 eto 25 whness na to answer the aves Page 10 Page 12 chet td on NAACP wes Ana in tat 2 By NR. MADDEN: 2 aero tare qmans woud tsps wo 2 @ Whois your current employer? > fantom tetas rota by the de pres 3 1A. SP, ba Suis Nebo hse 4 dus of te 1h Aenare because the le of 1 Nad by Pe. 5 mld corre af sch rman wl 5 @ Howtong have you been employed by 6 tage he hts of members and swap? stops t ng in wl socom n 7 1A Shee oughly Dine of 202, stop eteecomraon eles 8 @ Whats the business of SNAPP 9 ByMR. MADbeR: ° 1A. Ouro ro pratcte 28 @ Hr. Cohessy, do you refuse to answer 10 when andra he wautdes, We area 11g on that objection? 1 cone dpe, on oft, appr and Parr 12 avcay group fr men, women and en who ae 15 @ Letmestate tthe beginning of his 15. sey lsd as bth ire ant ads by 11 deposition, x do not want the names of any victims 14 drgy and athers ve pstin of power, cathole 15 thathave contacted you other than thse people 15. andnenCatal, Inez, we hive helped 16 who have contacted you and have fled sl against 16 any pape who were aused nother ston 11 either Father Michael Tlerney othe Doce in 17 stings steal, inet cams, year ets, 136 Kansas Oty-St. Joseph, Do you understand what 28 seovting programs. 18 Xm saying? Tort want the names don 15 @, Who-aretheather employees ormembers 10:03 20 want you to reveal to me the names of any victns 20 of SNAP ather than yourstt 71 other than hoes who have pt ther names forward a ENSEN, Ee me, You sid 22 inlawsuits, Bo you understand that? 22 eoddasklor don? 23k Tyehand what au sl recor 23 ym MADDEN: a @ Olay. 24 @. Okay, Who arethe ater employees of 2 NS. RANOUES: And hve obec 25 SNAP beides yourself? Page 11 Page 13, 4 (Pages 10 to 13) 1-800-288-3376ASOA47L DAVID CLOHESSY JANUARY 2, 2012 2 A. Baar Bae, BALI, oF ‘commer, Ifyou turn to page 7 ofthis Exhibit 2 C5 A MMI © 2 z 4 5 Dol goon asec othe rental sat 3 MS RARLES: 0 you have ado © eles 5 JENSEN: Dus te pees the 5 MR MADOEN: Leon. tt ave © question © eanaslacon 7 ‘A. Guay, Wie have an aint 1 @ On page7 of Exhibit 1 Cn . Right apg, or krwher ane, har BE Te 5. = yousee your name lise a5 10 Sewersincheags, Wehave araer~ ese 20 execatve director? 22 ame another aint pon who wots in n A Udo 2 Ca 22 @ Allright, And then Barbara Baines 22. Anyone else? 0:1 |12 stds president do you se that? 24 AL Na, Wee had oh we Rada fn u A Yes 25 rehing 40 25 @ Andthen your salaries appear in those 26 apobgie,Xcant kw the peg of er ast 26 columns 28. Allright, What abou 18 —eorreet™ 29 what's herrole wit SNAP? 19 A ves 20 (@ISCUSSION WAS HAD OFF THE RECORD) 20. Tathatan accurate report of your n MR JENSEN: Wel bec Hat 21 sstry? 22 quetlon bated on the sur Rape Cis Center 2 Ae Ksuspet Ris 20 Sete, RSMO 455.05 wee poh the 23 Allright. Andthen we have the names 26 enn of he ety fay oration ee oc 25 that wd edt ncn served by SNAP are a Page 14 1 arylation orcad hat ae decty 1 as rector nd mm 2 treasurer, 2 ltd the advocacy sons prose to sich 2 ‘Are those people paid employees of 2 nds, wel a bjetingtasd on tre 2 SNAP? {esd of axon aorta toush NAKCP ‘ A tmeat~ e:07A 5 vee Atami ht sich formation s (OISCUSSION WAS HAD OFF THE RECORD) 6 anawers~ kYometic an answers 3 privegee . IMR JENSEN: Same abection. 1 7 pursantto the Fst Anament ofthe United natu the wines rt to answer the question, 1 Sates Garston tough the 14th Amendment 5 8 BYR, MADDEN 9 they witrespass upon fundamen rondo 3 Allright. And do you follow your protect bythe de proces clause he 1405 10 counsels instruction? 1 erent because thee of eompeles n A 160. 2 sure of thsnormation wi eto abide 12 Who your supervisor at SNAP? 23 tes of Remembers ~of SLAMS members a ‘A. You know, Barbar ane ant 24 thats~ and supporters to orgie in ts 1 esserally = dont have one. 5 acaton in suppor of hae commnon bells 1s @ Allright, So the ttle executive 6 BYR. MADDEN sovsn [16 dlrectormeans that — are you at the top of the 27 Me Clohessy, let me hand you~ do 1 ehaina faras the chain of command at SNAP? 18 yurreuse te answer baced on that objection? 1 ‘A. You known essence Barbara and Ire 1s A to 1) pes I~ Bde, excise me. 20 (GEFENOANTS BOB NO, 3 MARKED FOR 20 And does Barbara office out of ro:0en 21 WENTIFICATION) 21 Chicago? 22 Let me hand what you ve marked as 2 A Yes 25 Exhibit , Exit the publ led ax 23 oes SNAP have a physical bullding 24 return for SNAP dated 2010, And you tum — 24 Iocaton elthe in St: Louis or Chicago or 25 thepage numbers are up a the top right-hand 25 anywhere lee? Page 15 Page 17 ATKINSON-BAKER, INC. 5 (Pages 14 to 17) 1-800-288-3376- ASOAATI DAVID CLOHESSY — JANUARY 2, 2012 ] 1k Wernta mote n Cua ] 2 coms 2. boyouhaveany employer other than | 2 "a soistneanonerner > sun |> (oiscusston ws aD OF HE RECORD) ‘ Ao. | eye MADDEN 5, Han SNAP eer verted Re 82 S@) Thoquestionis does SNAP have sry 6 rape ci counseling center? | 6 teansd counselor inthe Sate of Miso? 7 We drt are 1A chavs nart resin Mesut ©. Argh. What ape ats natin ones ts nor sip a 2) counting ania de eer you or Ms. laine of 9) ca aden sn nc pap wo 10 anybody else associated with SNAP have? | 10 nave been sowuaywtized by pests, ms, a (MR JENSEN: Object to the form of the }12 camp courts 22 queen 12 Arter any Hens sol workers 13," Tmabvouty rt gong tan 15. orcounslrs onthe ttf SNAP at any of hose 14 sta ane ee aie va SUP 14 meting in he State of Misr? 15 gem mab0 15 RBar Bie asin ae. sostta 16 Allright Lets 26 bn aves end a nse a 1K dy tate te wena 17 ators ere ca wr 18 saying ove tig et a ot members 18" @ starter Blaine licensed an 19 geet Ante 19 cour scl worker Inthe Sat of 20. Noy sd no, victimes 20 Missa or the Sate of ns? 2 said wasn gong tsa sbout vcs, The BK Téentiron 2 aston 22 @, Howmanyhansedcounstos by 3 (OISCUSSION WAS HAD OFFTHE RECORD) 2¢:08n | 23 whatever state the person resides now many et. Bate ae ar ar eee 21 teamed couacar docs SNAP employ? 25 insoitwore 25 A neat tno. Page 18 Page 20 1. Allok An wnat you~ Lg, And tio would tat be? 2K nbn el eer nd 2K Tat wo be Bt bine 3 Whats your experience ar traning 2 @ Soyeudobebeveshe'teenses? {with esate ape cis counssing? {doa tm sia Mate’s 5k Yukrow Eve ore =e prod 5 degen soc wrk. Tet ow wer shes spot to tins of sel emt 20 an LCSHor= yu kn, dnt oo at. + rough 23 or 24 yar 40 ot ave ~ 7g Obey. What rosiaa © Allright Kguess the beter 8A Shetookarbeenfor ata — question jo you have any formal education ar aly forge tan ave, ss ber 10 traning with regard te ape i counsting? 22 eng anion and caneanga nA Tome 21 pig ry sr wie vats and etn 12. And what formal eatin any, 12 ters osu vere 13 de artre Bale have wth regard rape 22 What in tring to get an 14 rss counsaing? 14 understanding other a lcation nthe State 15 Hart tran, Seran snes 15 ef Miour that «victim would go toto eceve 16 set poor Cago nett! owe 16 counseling services om SNAP, i there seh @ 17 vera sca, At may had rg 2 tocatin?| 18 becuse presi alt of he pele ot cae MA Yavin ~ 19 totheshter~ Riera womens ee. So 3 (C1SCUSION Was HAD OFF THE RECORD) 20 she may have ha eg 2 EASA: We can ep ot ey ct G. Doce SHAP ave any Neosedcousnors 10:108 21, objectors that? 22 nthe State of Misou? a he MADOEN: No 22k Weaeaasiaidatte 2 (Ciscusston was HAD OFF THE RECORD) 24 timing were sp gap. Weare ok — 2 a. MADOEN: oud yours ck the 10526 25, dnt hd uses toe oma ened 25 paar Page 19 Page 21 . 6 (Pages 18 to 21) 1-800-288-3376 ATKINSON-BAKER, INC.ASOAATL ATKINSON-BAKER, INC. DAVID CLOHESSY JANUARY 2, 2012 1 (REPORTER READ FROM THE RECORD AS 1 thieway, isto all des SNAP ever charge 2 Fouows 2 counseling fees te tims of senval abuse? 3 (QUESTION: What Im uyng to get an 3 A Ne 4 Understanding of there a lecaton 4 @ Obay, Does SNAP payor counting s Inthe Stee Mssour that Win 5 forvcting f seat abuse? « wok! got to rece coursing ‘ NR JENSEL Chet th fom othe 7 ences SNAP, there such 2 7st, . locator) BNR MADDEN: ® ‘A. We have hed support group meetings 5 @ Doyouunderstand my question? 110 In,you kno, St. aus, Kansas hy, probaly 10 eink aa, 41S the Combi ae, We nave regula LL @ Allright Does SNAP expend money to 412 sched support roup mestngs evry mri in 22 pay coungsor to counsel victims of sexs abuse? 15. Kanes Oy forthe most part fryers and yoo. 2 PR JNSERE lve ats 9 Angin St. Lats for the most part since 1991. We 14 teen ueton. Col you read take 15 aso meat wth people ~ you know, mich of the 15 ealerquston? 116 work that we over the phone 16 (QEPORTER READ FROM THE RECERO AS10298 » Allright. y Fouows: »® ‘A. People ae ~ many, rary tines any 8 QUESTION: Does SP ever charge 18 Rtakes moths before somebody even » eur fss to cts of seat 20 comfrtabe sting own face to face wih someone 20 tse?) 21 from SWAP, West pople wherever they want 2 YM MADOERE 22 meet Starbuck’, you know, — wherever 22, Theanewerwas no as Tunderstoo it? 23 people el confab, tats where we mas. po Thats 2 {How much money docs SNAP expend 10:18 |2¢ PELRADDENS And the ne ue 25 annually for counseling services for vctins of 25 wa Ime. Page 22 Page 24 2 sexual abuse? 2 (REPORTER READ FROM THE RECORD AS 2 ‘A You kote oxerwhelning bulk of oo 2 Fouows: 3 werk taking to sang to, sparing sex 3 (QUESTION: Does HAP py for 1 Ghuse vir. The oerlming mary of ‘ ceonesing fe veins of soa Swed, 1 eau bop to pt dot fon 5 hue 6 that ‘ REPORTER: And the net oe: Coes ‘od ember, Ima, you kn, 7 ‘SUP expend many to pay earls to © you asin aout SMA, SAP haste . cone its of soul abuse?) 5 pofesiona employes. Bu you kay, wean . A. moor. Tryitenemre tne, 20 nero twa at srl conpase af 10 MS RANDLES: When = 21 voles. 5, you kno, the vast wa maory ni SYR MADDEN: 22 ot ws, you tno, you wok alo Two ca 22 Q, Okay, La'strke those prior two 13 SAPs was ented by votre 23° questions and start over. Does SNAP withthe 2 Andthove thre pad professionals are 34 money Ithas from fund raising spond any ofthat 13 you, darhora Blaine 2 NN correct? 25 money to provide counseling for victim of sexu 16 foe 6 abe, ndvidua counseling? 1) Amt correct then that SNAP dows not 20-108 |27 MS RANDLES: Do you mean by 2 palé 28 spend any money on victim counseling? 28 themp that what youte aseng? Youre 3 MR JENSEN: Cbjcton. 29 aig about spat groups 20 MS. RAROLES: Objection 20 MR, MADDEN: 1 asin thay hae to be a NR JENSEN: Form a the question, 21 paid theyre spenng money. 22 rsa the ee ans 2 HS, RANDLES: We no they dart, 2 MS. RANOLES! Jin 23 ian, Tt the pele wn the question 24 ayiMR. MADDEN: 24 tis ve ae contin. 25, nother words, let me ge about 25 MR MADDEN: Lets tar again Page 23, Page 25, 7 (Rages 22 to 25) 1-800-288-3376ASOA7L DAVID CLOHESSY JANUARY 2, 2012 ATKINSON-BAKER, INC. 2 Ste the question. 3 gin 2 HR WYRSCH: us rue, Lobjet 2 A. Udo nou 3 tspeaking objections 3 wre mADoEN “ HS RANOLES: ut Jn, sometimes ‘ Haste nappenes? helps to et Mr Madcon knw what the concer is. 5 ‘A That the gusto you just aked me, ‘ Mk, HADEN: tke my qeson 6g Yee 7 ae stat over 7 1 Haslenappenes © By MR HADDEN: 8 @ Youdontieow? You don't know? 9 Does SNAP spond any money that . 1A. Ard the arene don ows 20 raises though fund ralsing on counseling for 20 append 11 nivale in indviusl therapy sessions? 2G. Aight. Who would know, you 2 ‘A ont = mean yes 10:20 {32 dont know as the execitve rector who In SNAP 3B Allright. How much annwlly does 13 would know whather here's happened or nt? 1¢ SNAP spend fr invduals in inva therapy " ‘A Youn, you wok probably ove 15 seston? 15 akevenrpersn mts curry a sveral the 1 1. Thave oe. 16 frelan oetes ho habe a cl SNAP n Where would that be recorded within 17 ender my pone, se. Beene, you 2a SNAPP 128 kom we have hap avers ouey ae 1 ‘A. Lean [dot know hw — yu ke 19 lover the wld nat al ve the Wa 20 can beg totel youhow we cau poss 20, youknon, and fern tats operate in 21 quay that. rus call mead they share 21 deren way, you koon. Has yes Tin you 22 thelepan with me, And console thm and may 22 ko when You ae as evr happened = 25 —beanthe pine wth ham fran hur. We dont 25 Masltever been reported on the tax 102248 24 charge anybody forth. don have a tn og 26 rau for SNAP? 25 ware sty, you know, 9AM. fo 10 AH, you 2s A. Ido Page 26 Page 28 2 eon pan ting wit et 2 Going back to Ect, Exhibit 2 Mr Chessy, understand that. 0.22 | 2 compiles the years ~if you lok at this fine 5 understood your anawerto my question was that 1 ight here n Exhibit «on page ts page 3, 41 SWAP doesn charg for its ime wth regard to 4 and.you have atl support numbers. Do you see 5 couneeling.Tthink we gt that understood, 5 those? In 2006 1's 920,000. 2007 467,000. We 5 My question lei vei alsin © gocverto 2010, 252,000, And then you have 2 and says min Kansas Cy and realy need to 7 total for years 06 rough 10 of almost’ 5 go tak to somebody, eased herp 2 © milion gotars, 5 profesional does SNAP expend money to help that 3 as 10 parson go get counseling rom a Heensed ao (QISCUSSION WAS HAD OFF THE RECORD) > professional? 11 @, Mrs loess, where i that money kept 2 NR. JENSEN: Objet tothe fom ofthe 12 thats reported in SNAPYs tax return for 2080? 13 queen. Sbjct the teton ou can a ‘A. Wheres the money kept maven au , Yes where the bak account? 10:258 18 ‘Atma you ko, coil send s [A tm asuming isin Co 25 atime 26, Alleght. And do you know whether 1) By NR, MADoENY 17 any money thats reported in this tax return 28 Netmy question. Are checks ever 18 marked ae EXILE, whather any ofthat money 15 wen from SMAP to the party counselor fora 15 whichis almost 2 millon dollar, has boon 20 wetimof sexual abuse? Has that ever happened? 20 expended to provide lndviusl counseling for 21 fy show much annually i pent or victims of 21 individuals who may have Been sexually abused? 22 semua abuse where you've dec pal third 2 ‘A Has ayo that money? 28 party counselors? 2g Yes. ~ 1a JENS, beso he fom fhe racasa [2a [N.Y huge chr of hat money. £ 25 estan, Subject ta youmoy anne 25 nave ales how to ~ you naw, eur ney Bays Page 27 Page 29 8 (Pages 26 to 29) 1-800-288-3376ASOA47L DAVID CLOHESSY = JANUARY 2, 2012 1 @ Movmy question ia any ott 1 funding comes from atomeys? 2 money to our outed ben pd oa indi 2 NR IDISEN Onjcton zed nf 3 conscor on eho anther person? 2 Masa Rape i Cater Sate tt ros ‘ RIKEN: Obata aor of 4 the ae fy Wort corte 5 quintet qin Srey ete th biny srs rsd © Br MA00= 6 (eSUP—orby We, seme, ASO Oeten 1. That my sion no 7 based on NAA ers ba A Otay, He UP ee ras SUP ene ‘ NS. RANDLES Jan ne btn 30 i i? 19 Areyourefing to answer bared on 2 Q. Come ost tat 3 millon datas 10:26 [11 thse objections? 2 thats inthe cet? 2A Untuh 2A Dotan 2g. tethata yes 16. Youdort how, Wold Ms Bins be wR Ye 15 epson who cold best newer tha question? 15 —_@, Thankyou. Doar SNAP have any te Shc abo ~ ee 16 agreument with attorney epeiing refer of 17 iy eb bert 17 Wim to those attomeys? 1". Whatare SAPs sures of funding? 18 A Canty Tord atin 19 Woc= Tm ot ardg fr ames. Bi gene 29 queer 20 whatare Re aource of ening? 20 EASES Youu an 2 JOE Ce othe eon 2 Nowe 22 tae onthe Mit Ripe Ci Cater Soe 22 rN MODE 22 rnb erat drecly 23 Q, Olay, How docs SNAP hexp Rs 24d than ees oie by SUP 24 secrde-- where docs SHAP ke Rs records? 2s NS-RINOLS: Adobe one 2s Ns, ROLES: Objet tothe fom Page 30 Page 32 1 question ang gn te azcton for 1 Se qt eons tne ne sot 2 eae ate SU. 2 rece ore tag tae (@. arwyourtsing to answer bared on 1 5 those objections? [ee 6 A Yes. — = 1 1. What records ate kept regarding Os funding ef SAPP he txreture references 8 . MRIS Teja e Scheie 0, Have you seen Sched which its 9. question med on te Mines ape is Ct 20 althedonorsta snare 30 Se nd bused on MAAC vers Ara ad 2A dont Rhine? soz [11 nae ne wns rato ner ueston 22, eis not Hove you seen that ay abo 10:28 25 sehadte oF 15 Areyouretuing to answer? fk For 20 = Mk Tamra 25g. Foranyyear? [15 @. vourtaxretumindates tat SAP 26K Tove Te sean bt fdr, 6 ara record retention poly De you know what 17 yea ‘he record retention pti? 10. andwhere ar those fat donors 1 (OSCUSSION WAS HAD OFF THE RECORD) 19 bak? 19k Yew dtm 20 A. Tasman Oo 29. lesnava mandtory reporter? 21 Who keeps those records? 2A eerttnm 2K Lasse nour mint at Qo youbelee youre» manébory 2) es Maul be space. 1 25 reporter ot sea abuse? 24 dt ion, Fda wo eps ba 28 A Lome non we aw cosas 25. Allight. What percentage of SNAP 25 erie mo nt rept. Page 3] Page 33 9 (Pages 30 to 33) 1-800-288-3376 ATKINSON-BAKER, INC.ASOAATL DAVID CLOHESSY JANUARY 2, 2012 1 And wien you receive a call working 2 svemny?) 2) fer SNAP by icin of sexual abuse, do You 2 HS, RANDLE: 1 object tothe oom of report that abuse to governmental authorities? 3 the questions beng compound ‘ DR. HENSEN: Object asad on the gre. maboen’ S—Missus Rape Cel Caner Stat that he 5g Youcananswer. © answer wuld conan norman thats dey ‘ 1A Okay, Tam I'm going tobe a 7 rated ote atcacy sores proved by SNAP. pola ean am depen. 5 NS. RAKOLES: An bjs tha form . 1 Doyou understand the question dowso't 10:29 2 ote qeiton that kee a assume that you do pve such counseling? 0 norman tat eno appointee the x0 A tea. 21 lew You rom tat L,Y. Sowhat ie the answer tothe 2 Ha MADDEN: Tm asking fr is rosin |12 question? 3 undestag 2 ‘A. Tae anower lat us lay this 2e BYR MADDEN: 2 fe, One mare me as. Ti sry. 15, Doyourefuse to answer based on those as (REPORTER READ FROM THE RECORD AS 16 objections? a6 Fouows: ” A Tao. a7 (QUESTION: nat counseling © 18 Q._ Does SNAP keep les regersing secured 1 auctions does SMA? prove to 25 peste? In other words sthere Father » seal abuse Wels 2, 20 Micha Tierney fle at SNAP? 20 regarcing the sue of epreses 21 [MR JENSEN: Objection toed en the 2 more?) 122 Mist Rape Cra Canter State nat he 2 ‘A. We proven nsrctions to anybaey 23 answer els fr rermation dec ested to 25 abot repressed menor 26 tne aovecaey snes prose by SHA. 24 Okay. Is thore anything in writing 25 er Ma. MADDEM: 25 that SNAP provides to poople who cal hat Page 34 Page 36 1 Do you Fetus to answer? 1 mentions or dicusses the Iesue of repressed 2 1 Yes rete 2 memory? 3 1@. What counseling or information does A AN. {1 SWAP provide sexual abuse victims, any, ‘ (Q. IESNAP issues a press rlease that regarding the issue of repressed memory? 5 ames an individual victim whats the process 5 |A. Repeat the question please, © forgetting that victim's consent before that > Right. What counseling oF 7 press release I Issued? Instructions does SNAP provide to sexual abuse Je THR ENSEN: Objeton based onthe 10:43 5 wikis any, regarding the issue of repressed 9 Rape Ci Cntr Statute in that te answer 20 memory? | 10 woud aque information or records that are u A cetmetake amine pease. One moe —«20:32A | 11 recy reed tothe advocacy serves provided 12 tm, wha ccunsang do we provide ~ 12 by SNAP, Rothe sae NAACP versus Alabama 22 Q, any, counseling or instructions if 13 bjectlon weve been mating 24 any regarding the isue of repressed memory? 4 Further, pureuot to Nebraska Poss 35 (ATTHIS POINT A BRIEF RECESS WAS 15 Assocation versus tua, Sach 2 compel 16 TAKEN) 6 anaer would function asa prior resvant on Mr ” A Oba, 17 Ghhessy and SNAPS abit to function as an 18 MR, MADDEN: Could you please rest o:aen [18 advoacy seve for future vets of sexi 19 tack hela quaston? 19 abuse and others who ely upon SWAP, Subject to 20 {REPORTER READ FROM THE RECORD AS 20 tha nsec the wines nt to answer the 2 Fouows: 2 question. 22 ‘QUESTION: Wnt coussing or 22 BYR, MADDEN: 23 Instructions does SUP prose to 2 Are you refusing to answer based on 2 seal use Wis, ay, 24 that instruction? 2s regeding the sue of repressed 2 A lam Page 35 Page 37 10 (Pages 34 to 37) ATKINSON-BAKER, INC. 1-800-288-3376ASOA471 DAVID CLOHESSY = JANUARY 2, 2012 1g, Boas SNAP pet pemision in wring 1 ase that ter tre ou to be utoundes? 2 from ser bute vin before SHAP roe 8 ? TENSE Soe cect. You may 2 presales that names tha person? 9 norte a, ‘ JEN Sane jon, And 1K wee ety dss 5dr wt at eave he un, essa edad cl ees «erm svooet 6 wom enrch fst et dred vee 1 @. Doyou refie to anawer? > ltt rt de ers roston| © ere snooere SQ, des AP pst ay liferation vs 8. Late hand you, Me. le what we © sal mei, Twter, oeaook, nything ke 0 marked a bent 2 2 tae u {DEFENDANTS EXHIBIT NO. 2 MARKED FOR eA Ye 2 awexraricarioN) 13. And what social maa does SHAP use? 13 @ len war the subpoen hat was served 1A war bee, Atm ee sone 14 aun your today wal ors depotion and 15. cur members have Fatbock acts 15 wemoved et today. 16. With regard t you porroaly do you 16 TS. FANOLES Can eta it ik 1) poston ther Tuer o Faeboot? 17 teak re yo gt tt 1 Sette nave acne 1» MADDEN: Sie 29 accor. tnave done sme neds Was he 1 (at 48 PONT AREF RECESS WAS rosea 20 ccterindoa, obi tn 20 wm 21", And Tm not arting aout anything you 2 NR. MADD 22 doin your poate 22 @. Mrs Cohen, olg tact Deoston an Uhdeson 232 tite the poe hte tice 24. Fmtaking about in our le for 24 andthe eit of ams that we asd yous 25, SNAP. Doyo we Twitar and Fesbook in your 25 ng to ade depodton. And yout son Page 38 Page 40 \ for SNAP? 1 xii to ahi 2 there are gt eatgaie 2 A tha 2a docoments. Oi ouperfarm search or hose 2. Arght. Has NAP te your knowledge > okt categorie of ecient? ever sve a press release that contained ale en iermation? SQ. Allah With resarto te st 6k Sie 1actan | 6 category of dacment wich samy documents 7 Q. Allright, Has SNAP ever ese a 7 onespandenc inde bt ot ted a © prssrelease regaeding 2 person who cimed 4) ecole al at entlen or rtr to ater 4 Senta abuse who later retracted that ala? 5) Mca Temey othe Does Kansas 5 10, Tenth 10 sep whee you ook or those docients? 1. @. Areyou aware any stanton where 21 RT cy adc is 12 SNAPIssed a pres release regarding calmed 12 Onmyhrd ecg. Ad ean 35 sexual abuse that tuned out tobe unfounded 22 eongte slater? 1g. Ag. And yout ny 3 IANS Objection othe om a 15 resonive documents? Wh ear tot 16 the question. es vague 1 pent? 18 Are yousware of ny such 18 Abo. ant have you brought those 15 situations 3 documents wth you tdby? 20 1 JENSEN: Subject tthe ejecton Ate soseen 2. youcan aver ie aveston. Jt @, Where are those docimente? 2k ontmaon ros4en A ye 23 GYNR HADDEN: 2 @. Whyhave you not brought thase 21 @ The questions are you aware ofa 24 documents tadny? 275, press release sed by SMAP regering weal 25k Reourfm bee bot, yout, Page 39 Page 41 11 Pages 38 to 41) ATKINSON-BAKER, INC. 1-800-288-3376ASOA47L ATKINSON-BAKER, INC. DAVID CLOHESSY JANUARY 2, 2012 1 tevin crac nde wba ones 1 alenesor dats of pres releases correc? 2 cor nd he es vc is 2k cone > andthe net ress wo conc 2g eategory correspondence to and 4 tence orate con ie + rome rest 5 erpecaten tt thre communes pr, Sk core Sal hep pt, and we ins tere © @ Andthose are being wit 7b ort ane pac 2 pieges th your understanding? ° {ean Tego pee BA, on casey 3 3) ton ea pe Wtn ot 9g Okay, category Ais amy 10 cantonal gis ctr 20 camespondene 1 te and an tpn aa reed of a (ISCUSION WAS HA0 OFF THE RECORD) 12 aan nd oman 12 Rl, Sects 2 wat Yo 2 Tht owe ve ge te 1o:san]33—taom econ epic connie a 14 sony en ose eet ot Ler nd ma hat ve eto 15 atumeye anther aed pret bs 15 ps. And at ing prod ay. The 1g Okay, Se you at earch fr 16 Gh egy pate trepinsee 17 tore document 17. Seyou deem crspandence betwee 15 @ Yougnvetosedocoments or cpt 15 bang produced covet? La correct? 20 theret yur attorneys on hey have reper 9 20k Late be dear, Ter e tn of 21 ogra te? PL eaeipendece Wh es rans 22g Farenough, rossaa DQ. Alght Lats goto category 20m 2A The wera member he nes 24 enc whic ay ores leans of as of 26 edger sor ea einer 25 press eleases that mention Father Michael Tey 25 tbeprte and peed, Were wa Page 42 Page 4 1 onthe Bocas of Kansas Ct Joseph Bid you 1 rs nd et ya ema 2 aldo search for those? 2 ne pra, we dat coder Data be are 3 vee 4 Q. tthe same locas? 4 Qe argh Toner that Sk Yexek 5 eaten. © @. bid you provide those your 6A Yt wkne. > atomeye? 7. Alig category 400 exe 2 es 2 askster any eorespondenc orm Rbecea SQ, category number isany andl tht menGonsor refers to Father Michal 10 erespondenc tar rom member fhe press 10 Tey othe laces of anebs Cy Some 12 that mento or refers to Father Michael Teney 11d you on search for that material? 12 orthe Diocese of Kansas hy St. Joep Did you 3k Wed 13 don senrch or those docoments? 13 —_@ Andadyou tnd any responsive ven 14 decom? 15 @. And you provide hore to your 15k Tre ne 16 attomeys? LQ. you provide tose docments to Me. A tes 17 denen, your atmey? 18 @, Doyou know wheter ether eategory2 Lea Yew we 1) ercatogory 3s been produced ods 15 @. Andave those documents being produced 20 depen? Or should ak your atorey about 20 tmtodays dpctlon or ae they blog tila that 21 aprileget? 228 My unesancng twee rovsua| 22 A. Myung tee na 23 pra tay 2 ard at were ot rang 23 wanders 2 tego 2e g. Alright. The th ategory on sosa8 25 Qe Aight, So catagory 21 the press 25 xt 2 any correspondence incig but not Page 43 Page 45 12 ages 42 to 45) 1-800-288-3376AS0A471 DAVID CLOHESSY JANUARY 2, 2012 timed to eletronie mall too rom members of [1 avased He tan pepe it fee 2 the publi including plants in any Higtion 2 fr usto use, And we arched by sets >that mentions or refers to Father Mchae Tlerney 2 And Yam ys those om were— Hs name Was 41 orthe Boceze of Kansas Cty-st JoFeph. Did You 4 sot tha so terms 5 dos eaarch for those documents? SQ Olay, Category is any 20:56 ‘ A Wee 6 correspdence including but not ented to , . id you find responsive decuments? “electron malt ofromt members ofthe puble . A Wed © that cusses orate to repressed memory. 5 @ And have hase heen produced to Mr id you dom search 10 densen your attorney? jo wea n 1h They foe, [2 menthat catego? 22 Arethoze beng withheld as Jaz A Wed 23 petleget? 15 Did you hind responsive dacuments? a A They ae uu 1 Yes,we 15 @ Okay, Catagory 6on Exhibit 2s eny 15 @Andwerethare produced to your 16 dacuments oF correspondence including but not 26 attorney, Me Jensen? 17 initad to electronic mall at mention oreter y 128 twany priest currently or formery associated 18 @. Arothose being withheld ax privileged 19 with the Diocese of Kansas Gity-St. Joseph? 29 teday? 20k Wed, 20 Vena 2. Youd dom sarc for that correct? 21 With regard to category 2 which isthe 2K Yen 22 press release category, are drafts of thors press 23. And. you find responsive documents? 2) teense alzo being produced today to your 2» A Weds 24 knowledge? 25 Andthose have been produced to your 25 A, Keon we ~to my krowledge we Page 46 Page 48 attorney? ene ney ahs. Let me 2 hee, | 2 tekton, Leartw, Fate Tra the 2 @. Anda those being wth | 3 tesianene, Kart yes. < privoges? Je {OEFINDMTS DHBIT NO. 2 MARKED FOR 5 A Yes sh reisen | 5 roexrieATION) © Alght, Me seventh category is © Mr Cahassy, hand you Beit 3 7 any correspondence including but nt Kinie to 7 which you see at he top san ermal string rst {electronic milo or from ~and then ve whites © from uy Thomas at the Kansas Cy Star to Becky 5 gutthe name asJohn Doe, 8. of Kansas city, | 2 summers tte Diocese of Kansas Gist. 2oseph- 20 Missout wh the plain nthe ease where 20 And-blow tat lean e-mal fom SNAP Cieago 21 represent Father Mchal Time. Do you know 21 dated Thursday, October 20,2011 at 8:14 AM: do 12 who do you know the real mame of 0h Doe, 12 yousce tat? A eon MQ. Doyou recognize Exhibit 3 as SNAP 25 Q. Alfght. When you dd your search 25 pressrelenser 15 pursuant tothe subpoena the name appeared inthe 26 A, Yes thetom= yes sre The tem 17 subpoena, he name of John Doe BP. appeared in ne We ar these ate mea bei. Bu — 28 the subpoena, id you do a search for that @ Thats toe. 20. A, ort tive at we 20 @, Leamcalite media advisory. With 21 Allight. Were you instructed otto 2 regard to Exit id you have any roe with 22 dom eaten for that person's name or de you know 22 preparing Exibit 3? 23 whythat dot happen? 2 JERSE: Objection based on the Py A. We were gen sof ya 2 Rage Cie Canter Sate spoils the 25s, Hone saeco te ue nye, me 25 ease of ny efomatino records tate Page 47 Page 49 13 Pages 46 to 49) ATKINSON-BAKER, INC. 1-800-288-3376ASOAA7L DAVID CLOHESSY JANUARY 2, 2012 1 ety rete Se avecacy ses rod 1 tshe.also employed by SUAP? 2 by SNAP 2 1 tent 3 ‘objecting asd on NAACP es 2 Wats Meg reason fr being 4 aba the same been tats een tated 4 omthis press alesse do you know? Seater, 5 1A Yes he the SUP veer eader . In tion, abjcing based on © forthe anes Cty re 1 Nebrasta Pres Assan ers Shot nat 7 (GEFIONYTS ENMIT NO, 4 MARKED FOR © anaes the questions woud serve as or | = roewmnicartom 9. resranon Me. Claes and SAPS bay 5 Q Sir Thand you Exit 4. im 20 functian an aozay servic for ite vss 20 tooling for another copy. think gt shorted & 11 of sens abuse nde we ey oun SNAP. 11 eopy. Hore youse. a Ane itt he wines rat 2 PR. JENSEN Thank ou. 101m 23, anaertne asin, 12 Exnbit ica taut entiod John 2 Br MR MADDEN ossaa [14 Boe, $8.2 vermis Father Michael Tlemey andthe 1@. Do yourefuse te answer based on Your 15 cathole lacese of Kansas Cyst. JoBtoh. And 16 tawyer insbcton? 26 youll se ithaea le stamp of October 20,2011 ” Aa 1 11 which ie the same date athe press release we 28. Youll sein Banbit 3 we goto 29 marked as Bevble 5; do you see that? 29 page Zor that Ext under the heading "Why" It 2s Ye 20m 20, Okay. Howeit~and you soe the 2. Anew elcid rex abuse and cover-up 21 flestamp of Exhibit is 2:44 P.M. on October 22 awa fled today in Jackson County Court 22200; do you see that? 22 charges that Father Michael Temey 2 te 2¢ molested» then 12 year old boy at two 26, How ltt that SNAP had the 25” ecatons the priest's mothers house 25 information nthe lawsuit we've marked a Exhibit Page 50 Page 52 a ine MO and focal YMCA around 1971. 2 Atbetore i wa ed withthe court? 2 ‘Whats the source f you know forthe 2 NR RSEN Agnn bjecon based on information that’ contained in hit 3? 5) the Masaut Rape Cs Cer State, on SAPS ‘ HR JENSEN: Sanctions. And 4 attto team of spc and eda of hin the wines tte anser the Sasson an redo of asembiy, tse on 6 ietn © NAAC ver Atom an asad on eas Press 7 By NR MADDEN 7 seen vers St. ' (@. Doyou refuse to answer based on your : ‘And Witt he wees reo 9 lawyers aves? 5 answer th etn 0 [A Emscmy Os ey lane's? 20 ym. MADDEN 11020 ng Yes. 21 @ Do you reuse to answer, st? 12 A. tmsomy, [ought Cheat you sy a A Ye 23 employer's adece. 2 MR WrRSCie tetera ete es 14 sung the wits no to answer when you 1s A Ura 15 mate tt objecn? 16 @ Yourname appears at the bottom of 16 HR MADDEN He 1) this what ai you cll ta press adsory? v NEN 1 two ns ear ae 1k Maa aan. 10:5sa fie HR MADDENS He te sy 3 18 @ Media advisory Your name and contact 19 NSE, But can doa 20 information appears; cormect? 20 MR MADDENE No esd Txt 2 A Yess 2) watta her eae 22 Along with You 22, Exhbit—letme ask you this forthe 23 Indicated she's a SNAP employes correct? 2 record wae Exhibit 4 the wsut regarding 2 A Yess 26 Father Michael Temey,cammuniates to you or 25. And then the ame 2pPear- 25. anyone alse at SNAP before the press elease that Page SL Page $3 14 (Pages 50 to 53) ATKINSON-BAKER, INC. 1-800-288-3376ASOA47L DAVID CLOHESSY —— JANUARY 2, 2012 1 wove ark as Exit 37 2 psa here, those things ta ore 2 EASE Same ejects. 1 2 prodong? Aeterna boxe 3th le ot ave quest. 3A ex rape tr speak nian 4 Bran mabe 4 wstana= 5 @ Ando you tllow your lawyers 5g. Tatra © mien? ME-RANDLES: What as tees on 7 Ne proton tos We on ety me 8 @. Haveyou been made are of what's Geet? 9 bran efredo gogorder with rego to ’ 1 ERSE Wee c= He 10th cue oni ater Mice Terey? 10 wysch rit went mete tse do, mean no Ye. 11 an anbrty woe, ti, can ean 12. Andhowworeyoumadeawareotthat? 11:038 [12 wate prod an oe an te Yo 12. Rebeca Rand tle am 1h @, Andere youmade aware ofthe 99 u FADE: Se etme a 15. onder inthis cae before the pres release was Sie 16 lated that marked ae EB 9? 6 (CeFENONTS Ee No, 5 MARKED FOR 17 A Dott 2) etcxTon 18 @. Doyoureca when you were ade aware ih Mes Cohesy, ve marked a binder 19 ofthe gag ordarin tice? 15 naa inder folder that contains docents 20 NESE: Objet, asked an 20 sityourundertandng that MBAS the 21 snort eet ht est she 21 documents that oe being produced pursuant the 22 dean 22 spoon? 23. BY MRL NADDEN 2x A. tee nats ee a? 24. And masking ben. Do yourecll eta. Trajostastng or our 25 when you wee mage nware of tae? 25 understanding, you dont hoow tat ust Page St Page 56 2. Alot. Weve gtts bak forthe 2 1A. Yes no, These athe gociments 3 tape 3 Andalite te 9 copy for wee fn ma 4 ‘ere tna Ses, we sperm gen, you 3 (srs or Ase Recess Wis 5 tnow, 300 men hours nd that thet at we © ma & se producing tay 7 oeoTAPe mR 2) nan] 9 TC ENGEL Ban jut to be dest, 12:25 3 Ms cobesty, nic 2 waste 8 yous before we stars thot you werent slag 9 spent the Ex wth ams We wanted $_totae the ul we had a potecve ore 5 yrtotrna? Time ng you wore fr DA — arent NR HADEN: I antes to atk 2 AndFbaheve youlndetad bathe then 5 ony ems tought othe epost were category i, 2S RHE 14 we reas lee and» rege 1. RADDEN: the cout 5 Tetatecaate? 15 reper tae then 16 Ree you ow, wes ‘ I. JENSEL Otay. Bu were Ho on 17 Tmsany— we a cn ye on 27 that, otousy ake your word fort, 2st ke cova 28 sowe kre clear maha sue 18 Wiehe the repress memo? 28 protective rer where you wont be tig them 20. Ra were edu ane nab oh 20° overt crested defendant 22m we or es at a THR MADDEN: We thi neon 22 gata merionDe tee! ao. 22 youand Lean wor oa prose oer. 1 2g Alghe 23 tikes a aor deal we hen 2 Sonya 2 i. JENSEL ge. And cent 25 ——@. Tatetne, And where are those 28 grog them ote. Were poi hem io Page 55 7 Page 57 15 (Pages 54 to 57) ATKINSON-BAKER, INC. 1-800-288-3376ASOAATL DAVID CLOHESSY JANUARY 2, 2012 1 yard oo |. Vi NBDE cit tnd on ne 2 Bram mnaceRt 2 issourt Rape Cass Cente Statute atthe 2g. Allright. Mr-lohessy, you 3 ans would cl forthe provson ef ivommatcn «mentioned a pilege og toa Is that contained 4 cr records that ae recy relate tthe Smee 5, the pvleged og here? 5 advocacy sets by SMA. . A dist ko, « Tn aston, we make the same freedom 2 PR MROORHE Me Sean the 7 ot speech nd teedom of sscation and freeom 8 pega iog in it 5? [8 er assem argues. 3 JENSEN 1 eleve ate 2 |s ‘Ojetonbasd on NAACP versus 10 separate camer. acy wo erent ‘Asbama, Objecton tas on ~ the sae cblecton 21 danas, One tegen acumen, Ones 1 spote of eat, the same cbjecion I spate of 12 atmeyer rileedog. Sos realy caer with esac aio to Netra Press 32 thos [55 sssoiten versus Star. 2 py MR. MaDe nines | ‘Ao cect the form of he as (GEFEIONNUTS BOUT NOS. Sand? [25 question and relevance 116 mankeo For 1OeNTFICATION) 16 ‘a tut the wines tt 17. Mrs Clabes, ve marked a5 Exhibit 6 2) answerthe question. 18 and two logs produced by your counso. id you [xs even. mapoen: nists 19° review those ater they were prepared? Jas 'Q. Will you follow your attorney's 200 Ned | 20 instructions? 21g, Allright. Youated on your counse! Jz. A 10. 22 ta prepare the logs that are marked a Exhibit 6 |22 ‘VIDEOGRAPHER: OF the record 23 and 7 isthat ove? Jz (RT THES POUT A BRIEF RECESS WAS 28, Yes yes, Weve Ras og dscusions | 2< Taken Due To Tecra OFFFIGATIES) 25 bok, Adit bean aay te. 25 BYR, MADDERE Page 60 2 @ Mr cohessy tet me maréund hand you 2g, Me Clty gelng bacct Exibie 8 2 exes. 2 the photographs that appear on page of Exit 3 (DEFENDANTS EXHIBIT NO. © MARKED FOR 2 do you know who those who x depicted in © apewretcaTion) | those photographs? $ A, olay s TA Prey ro see tht smal bt © Aegnt, exude 8 ppearsto be 6 cory naw soe ofthe. 7 yeutaok atthe date atthe top, this was 7g. Allright And are these people who © forwarded by e-all from Becky Summers tthe 8 consented to have their photographs appear on the 9 Diocese regarding another fwsut ed against 9 website, what was the — 10 Father ime dated November 2011. And i we 10 HR JEN Obj, He same 12:20 11 gobelow that onthe fist page you see 8 row ot 11 ojeaios baad on Rape i Corte Satte, 12 pictures and then the headline i: For fest time 12 free snc, eed of sendy, 13 ever itn assistance coordinator spenks Out. 13 random et spec, NAACP ves Maar and 14 An then tsays: Posted by Das Clohessy on 14 Netra rest Aasoiton ess Stunt. A 1 November, 2011, 18 tora 6 1s this a website posting for SNAP? 6 od itr he wanes att 17 Yes appeas tbe, aisiea [17 anawer tne asin 18 Allight. Andi the press or mela 28 By Ma Waboes 19 communicated with va this vehile at 19, Doyoutllow your attomey's avice? 20 te posted onthe website ke this? 2A 1a PA. Tae be press an ido 21. Alright we oo the e-mail 22 bate a ead 22 thatappears onthe ~ a the top of pape 3 of 22 @, mather words, Is thie posting by You 23 Exit do you see ime stamp an the e-mall 24 forwarded to members ofthe press such a the 2 of us2AM? 25 ermal that wo looked 207 rare Page $9 Page 61 ATKINSON-BAKER, INC. 16 (Pages 58 to 61) 1-800-288-3376ASOAATL DAVID CLOHESSY JANUARY 2, 2012 1 Antthis document hat wee marked a | 1 tating cored you tak the 2 nib ammounces laws gant Father | 2 same 3 schael Meme cect? 2k Yeu tues «TUR enhweto red Mand se {@. Aight. Her nthe second SQ. ThreelfY eam alp yout. paragraph on page 3 fhe exit k mentone «ke the plato the pron making the aleatons 7 JOE ldo fra ean > AM you se tat? © ttom at page 2 do you se that? : ene 9A Yexyentsee tht 9. Mave you spoken with Mu about w (Cerro EET No, HARES FOR 10 Ne egotins agit ater Micha! Teme? 1 wancaTion) a Wm DNGEN ben aed on he ery 12 @ Sr, Shand you Bxbi 8 which ew 12 ust Rape es Cet Sate tatsbeen 12 tnwait unin ater Ml Merey ad do ou 19 ected ney ar a SU of 14 seetiatthaea tl stamp o November 82011 Lee sph and ection nd seb, ACP is maaerate 15 yer tana ae aca Pree Acton i ane 22n | 16 ses Su wel te regan fhe 17 Howlett you were able fo post 2 guedien, 18 afomaten rom ts lawnf before ws ed ra dW te wes to 19 wnt cour? 19 anoer tn aeton 20 1 XNSEN The sect at 20 Br NADDER 21 were rere at eon bse os 21 @, oyou reise to anewer based a your 22 be ape Oe Corer St, te 22 storeys s0vie? 2a pmendent is el tet ef echacton A Yee 24 ander, MAP vrs Aba rl 24. Doyou have witen consent fim 25. basa Pes cto esi Sa AD 25 Meg tohove haved he pres relaee? 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