Street Sarging

by Tyler Durden
Fuck, dudes, I simply can NOT get the hang of street sarging!!! I don;t know what the fuck is going on! I
see HBs in pairs, moving, or on the fucking CELL PHONE, moving, never alone. The closest thing I came
to street sargin today was when I saw an HB walking alone, I said, "Hey, what's up!" like I knew her, she
just walked by like she didn't even hear.

How can I STOP moving targets? Not simply lonewolf, but chicks in pairs or on the cell phone?

HELP PLEASE ASSHOLES!

-jlaix

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- What's the difference between us? We can start at the penis; or we can scream "I don't give a fuck" and
see who means it. -

-jlaix,

I actually have a lot to say on the topic of street sarging that may be
helpful to you and I was enthusiastic about writing a reply to you about it
until I saw that, for the second time, you have called the people you are
asking to help you "assholes".

You can go play in your own empty sandbox for now, buddy. :-)

-PDX

ARGH! I read jlaix's post, got to the end, and thought "oh for christ's
sake please don't let anybody take the 'asshole' comment as an insult..."
and then I read SexPDX's reply. oh well.... ;(

But yeah, I have only very rarely gotten results with STREET street sarging,
and in those cases it depended mostly on being able to come with really
nifty situational openers. Not dependable for general usage. Now if they
want to step off the street and spend some time at the bus stop or wal-mart,
then yes, we've got a much better chance... don't really know what to say.

-manoreason
bah!
judging from my field experience whenever i wanted to sarge a HB on the street or same environment
(train, bus stop etc) i start of with ..Hey were u in my lecture today for blah blah? Shell most likely say No
and then u ask her what she does.. then make her elaborate on the shit she does and make it sound like
shes a cool chick for doing that! Then if she likes u the slightest she will usualyl ask about ur course and
what ur doing in it!
You fluff about it and then as things are going well (she responds nicely to ur convo and talks to u) u say
"hey we should get together sometime for blah blah! How can i get in touch with u? Or a simple ask to call
her!
Chances are if she liked u then shell give u the #, if not then next her cos shes a wierd chick who u wont
like later on anyway.

This whole process lasts from 3-10 mins!

give it a try! so far i have closed all HBs ive approached this way... oh sorry one just said "no" to me and
kept standing there facing the other way cos she was a stupid cow! didnt even look at me... well dont
approach from the back.. cos its intimidating.. dont approach from the front either! try from the side on a
45 degree angle so she can see u!

-[Backdoor is one of many options to choose from after the isolation stage is completed]-

Lets start with some EYE-CONTACT!!!

Make EYE-Contact...and HOLD it. An HB who holds eye-contact even for a few seconds...is
interested...and is probably wondering..."why is this person looking at me"..."or wow...this guy isn't afraid
of keeping eye-contact".(which is better than the former)

Even HBs will make the initial eye-contact (coz they want the fact validated, that you were looking at them
and this makes them feel beautiful).

If you work your game right, after that...you can pull the rug from under her feet.

Try to find something unusual to comment about her...

for instance...

I was walking down a pathway the other day...and saw a girl walking towards me from about 25 feet...(she
was carrying a big painting)
I noticed her notice me....(and keeping my path steady...i.e not moving either side...and making it very
open to her..that I'd noticed her too...and was walking staright towards her...)

while passing her by...and looking straight in her eyes...

me: For Sale....(kept walking)
Her: Oh..NO!...i am taking it to the Art Gallery..(and she stopped - meaning in my book that I'd manage to
open her succesfully...coz she stopped to chat more...and all I had to do was take it from there...)
but I didn't have much time...so I looked back...and said...
me:...oh good luck...but I wasn't asking abt the painting..

a cocky funny routine from here...would serve well.

Here is something else you can try...but say it with confidence..and a smile...so as not to alienate the girl..
if she gives you eye-contact...

then just ask.....

"Hi...do you know me..?"
Her:uh...(shake of head)...
Me: well you were just looking at me with such ease and familiarity...I thought maybe you did...!!!
I already met this other person around the block..who I hadn't seen in ages......blah blah...so spring is in
the air...hunh

I opened a girl the other day....and she was like...

her:"Oh...I apologize..I was only...looking..."..
me:...oh please don't objectify me....I'm sick of being treated as a sex object..(from the Manual)..its
difficult you know...(keeping it funny)

Mindset here is also important....

having the Garbage guy Attitude would be great...
i.e
"This world is my Playing field..and I am out here to have fun..and I don't care what you think about my
actions..I do as I please"...
----but I am sure you already know that...!!

If a girl is on the phone...and is passing you by...but you've managed to hold her eye-contact...
then immediately as you pass her by...say...
"Say hi to her"...(implying that you want her to say hi to her friend (or who ever she is talking to on the
phone) or if the girl is standing by,....
then stop and say...
"tell her..a cute stranger just stopped and said hi"...
if she smiles..and you are hanging around..might develop..if she doesn't...move on..!!

Girls...who don't make eye-contact..are generally bogged down with some other stuff/worries...so unless
you can join their reality and are willing to make the added effort...try to screen...!!

Action Over Desire Arsehole(Singular)

Snow...!!

jlaix, what's up man..

I can stop street moving targets with over 80% consistency, no problem (in GOOD weather only, not
bitter-cold winter weather) - so do NOT believe the hype, it *CAN* be learned..

This is a more rare skillset that many PUAs (not all, but most) long believed to be impossible to do
consistently, and took me a while to figure out, but now I can teach it in under 5 minutes now to other
PUAs that I meet up with, and once you know it its really easy - not complicated at all.. even easier than
opening in a club..

Focus on backing into the chick as she walks up, from a sideways angle, and looking REALLY low-key and
soft spoken.. NON-THREATENING - face backwards and turn your neck, and when she's around 6 feet
away start to use the DAVID BOWIE opener.. She will usually NOT stop initially, and start to pass you,
which you just twist your neck more, but do NOT under ANY circumstances shift your feet position.. she'll
wonder why you didn't try to chase her down, and feel rude for not stopping to talk to you, since her initial
reaction will be that you are a sidewalk solicitor or some sort (which btw, if later in the sarge she says she
thought that you were a soliticor, its a great-op to do a backturnaround mini-takeaway neg in a playful
way).. that will gain alot of trust, and she'll come back to YOU so that she does all the work of facing you..
don't turn around to face her.. just keep your neck twisted until she walks over to face you..

The elements that stop her are:

-non-threatening bodylanguage / open / palms up
-super relaxed tonality, even EXAGGERATEDLY relaxed like you're stoned, in order to disarm
-moving VERY slow
-talking very slow
-not turning to face her, which shows no neediness
-EVERYTHING focused on disarming her, by looking relaxed/nonthreatening/easygoing
-say "hey" first.. "hey... do girls think that David Bowie is hot".. then wait for her to keep passing, and turn
to come back to you out of curiousity if you were addressing her, which is clear since you ARE turning
your neck to her and trying to give EC..

Dude, do NOT worry about giving extended EC to a chick on the street before you approach or trying to
force an AI.. its great and all if it works out, but its irrelevant if you can't get it.. its just a stereotype..

Then switch gears once she's initiated..

Ask her the David Bowie question, and immediately start calling her a "bad girl" or some stupid shit like
that, so she'll get all wet and want to stay and talk..

This will get you laid like you wouldn't believe, because chicks have ZERO bitch shield on the street, since
they're fully convinced that its serindipitous to meet on the street, and that its some
intervention/destiny/fate that you met in such an unusual and romantic place.. with practise you can get
chicks to blow off work/school/chores just to insta-date this wonderful guy who came out of nowhere, and
you can push it for full close same day since she doesn't want to break the magic..

If she asks why you asked, you either tease her on it, or say that you are totally shy with women and that
you saw her and wanted to meet her, and you just said the first thing that popped into your mind, since
your little sister was saying earlier that she thinks that David Bowie is hot.. (if she's a stupidly hot bitchy
peacocky HB9+ then tease her, if below then convey vulnerability)

Also, if I were you, I'd drive over to San Diego and hookup with Manifestis and Ozwald, who can show you
how its done, because its really difficult to post it in detail over the internet.. I know that Manifestis can do
it very consistently now, and the girls on his campus are really hot.. in addition, UCSD is a top location for
sarging..

Papa will also be in San Fransisco next week, and I'd suggest trying to meet up with him, because you'll
shit your pants when you meet your first fellow underground-cyberculture PUA in real life (see my post
above).. especially Papa who is an animal..

Good luck dude, I hope this helped..

-TD

fuck I wish I could publish a book with pictures and diagrams and videoclips of this shit, cause its really
hard to convey over the internet.. I hope this translates properly..

OK, a diagram.. Arrows denote feet position, face position is just written.

Also when I post this, it deletes some spaces I made, but you should be still a few feet to the side of her
walking path. (in this diagram, that would be a bit to the right of the screen)

1)

|startwalking-normalspeed
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V HBSTREET

>------JLAIXstartwalking-slowspeed (feet facing RIGHT of screen, but neck turned to LEFT of the screen)

2)

>---JLAIX (looking at bottom of screen, feet still same)

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V HBStreet (face though is now looking back up to see if you were talking to her)

3)

> JLAIX (looking at bottom of screen, feet still same)

|
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^ (now feet AND face fully turned to see you, and walk back up to chat you)

4)

>-J <-HB (now facing eachother)

OK hopefully that's more clear dude.. its the best that I can do, and its heavily field tested.. hopefully
helpful.. good luck.

Another good way is to HIGH-5 as you walk by (smile and say "high-5" which no chick can resist except
LSE who will look at you weird), which doesn't require all this stuff from the diagram, since she'll giggle
and turnaround, and you can go back and grab her right hand with yours, her left hand with yours (so
your arms are crossing eachother), and spin/twirl her dance-move style, and say "you're my new best
friend.. I love you I want to adopt you", which she'll giggle more, and initiate you instantly..

-TD

yikes I just jumped out of bed to append this..

The PROPER line is "OMG I LOVE that whatever-accessory (pick one no matter how dull).. I love you I'm
going to adopt you.." and then you can grab her and hug her and spin her in circles, then give a high-10
with both hands and say "you rock"..

(this is AFTER the initial high-5, her turning around to wonder who you are, you running back, and doing
the dancemove spin)

She'll be laughing and giggling her ass off, and from there you've conveyed MASSIVE value to the chick,
because you appear *playful*, fun, outgoing, confident, alpha, implicit social proof (you wouldn't do this
unless OTHER chicks liked it), you demonstrated ability to use physical force (by spinning her she gets
turned on feeling your strong muscles grabbing her and lifting her), and she will INSTANTLY start saying
"what's your name?? where are you from??" (lame chick IOIs)

So since she's already turned on instantly, STOP conveying value, and just go rapport and use Gunwitch
Method style phase shift and bridge or close.. that means TOTALLY GENUINE - NO GAME whatsoever,
or else risk overqualifying yourself.. just get to know eachother and focus on building connection (unless
party chick, or super hottie with bitch shield, then neg the fuck out of her)..

btw, for any guys who have just come to ASF, YES you can fix your no girlfriend problem THIS FAST.. You
can go from no sex to having a hot chick in your life within SECONDS.. Value is conveyed within seconds,
not days, weeks, or months.. I can steal the chick you've pined over and supposedly "worked on" THIS
FAST.. ASF WORKS.. :)

That's my little Anthony Robbins motivational speech of the day!.. go test, this shit is fucking fun! :)

-TD

On 3/14/03 5:55:00 AM, TylerDurden wrote:

>fuck I wish I could publish a
>book with pictures and
>diagrams and videoclips of
>this shit, cause its really
>hard to convey over the
>internet.. I hope this
>translates properly..

So do it man. Most of us either have to work

40 hours a week or study full time, whatever
help you could come up with would probably be
beneficial.

>
>Also when I post this, it
>deletes some spaces I made,

Do it again...you'll see a check box when you

type in your diagram ( actually you can just copy
and paste what you have done already and modify it )
that says "Pre-formatted text (No HTML)". Check that box,
and the diagram should post without collapsed spaces.

Thanks for the great info!

Scofield.

Thanks a lot...

...ASSHOLES! ;)

-jlaix
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- What's the difference between us? We can start at the penis; or we can scream "I don't give a fuck" and
see who means it. -

>>I know that Manifestis can do it very consistently now, and>>the girls on his campus are really hot.. in
addition, UCSD>>is a top location for sarging..

Good shit. I've used that weird look/fake punch move a couple times and its worked really well. I never
would have understood if you didn't show me it though.

anyways, what's really funny is that UCSD has a lot of hot girls, but is known in san diego as the school
where all the UGLY chicks are at. There's a saying that goes, "if you're afraid of party's and chick's without
facial hair then ucsd is shcool for you.". If you would have went to USD or SDSU with Manifesits you
would have probably shit yourself(SDSU school is KNOWN for hot chicks). anyways, I knew the allure of
ASF would draw you back, it's good to see you posting again.

-ozwald1

"I be catchin' bitches while bitches be catchin' feelings"

-xzibit

jlaix wrote:

>Fuck, dudes, I simply can NOT

>get the hang of street
>sarging!!!

"...yet"

>I don;t know what

>the fuck is going on! I see
>HBs in pairs, moving, or on
>the fucking CELL PHONE,
>moving, never alone. The
>closest thing I came to street
>sargin today was when I saw an
>HB walking alone, I said,
>"Hey, what's up!" like I knew
>her, she just walked by like
>she didn't even hear.
>
>How can I STOP moving targets?

Why are you even bothering with that? Pick them off while they're stationary. And why are you literally on
the STREET doing this? The turnover isn't as high on the street (literally) as doing PU in other "street"
venues. Walk down the street, find a nice shop with a hot chick or two inside, walk in, PU. Go to the
subway. Cell phones don't usually work in the subway. Find lonewolves there. Bookstores. Chicks go by
themselves to bookstores for the SOLE PURPOSE of being PU'd. That is my belief. Find out where there
are palm or tea leaf readings (sometimes it's a pocket store in a small plaza) and hang around outside,
reading a mag/book. Music stores. Food courts in malls. I can name 100 other places.

>Not simply lonewolf, but

>chicks in pairs or on the cell
>phone?

Rather than find a tactic to "break into" such a scenario, find tactics to get yourself into situations where
those same kind of chicks won't be in pairs or won't be on a cell.

--
jay [formhandle@fastseduction.com]

Fast Seduction 101 - http://www.fastseduction.com/

Class is now in session...

Form wrote:

"How can I STOP moving targets?

Why are you even bothering with that? Pick them off while they're stationary. And why are you literally on
the STREET doing this? The turnover isn't as high on the street (literally) as doing PU in other "street"
venues. Walk down the street, find a nice shop with a hot chick or two inside, walk in, PU. Go to the
subway. Cell phones don't usually work in the subway. Find lonewolves there. Bookstores. Chicks go by
themselves to bookstores for the SOLE PURPOSE of being PU'd. That is my belief. Find out where there
are palm or tea leaf readings (sometimes it's a pocket store in a small plaza) and hang around outside,
reading a mag/book. Music stores. Food courts in malls. I can name 100 other places."

Yeah, I see. It's crazy though when you see a super cutie on the literal street and don't have the ability to
stop her, very frustrating.

">Not simply lonewolf, but

>chicks in pairs or on the cell
>phone?

Rather than find a tactic to "break into" such a scenario, find tactics to get yourself into situations where
those same kind of chicks won't be in pairs or won't be on a cell."

I understand. The week 9 BC assignment has really opened my eyes to how EASY "street" sarging can be
compared to the bar enviro I was clinging so tightly to. There is little shielding to deal with, and stuff that
would get a mediocre reaction in the bar makes em go DDB. A GPUA like myself who kind of knows his
shit (I feel I'm really gettin there now...) should have no problem picking up a chick at Walgreen's or a
waitress, or a bookstore chick for that matter.

-jlaix

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- What's the difference between us? We can start at the penis; or we can scream "I don't give a fuck" and
see who means it. -

Jlaix,

Email your phone number, bro. We'll meet in SF and do some street and bar sargin. I spent over 100
hours doing this with TD, Manifestis, Dreamweaver...and you can check out a good FR when I did this
with Slippery, Devilhimself, and Orion (making out with girls on the street). Fun and easy.

Cheers,
Papa