Counter​ ​points​ ​to​ ​Ashika’s​ ​Documentary:

1) The​ ​intro​ ​text​ ​and​ ​music​ ​truly​ ​set​ ​the​ ​scene​ ​for​ ​the​ ​veiwer.​ ​This​ ​is​ ​a​ ​slight​ ​of​ ​hand​ ​trick​ ​to
produce​ ​in​ ​the​ ​veiwer​ ​a​ ​negative​ ​emotional​ ​reaction​ ​before​ ​any​ ​evidence​ ​or​ ​story​ ​is​ ​even
played.​ ​ ​The​ ​potters​ ​house​ ​is​ ​controvertial,​ ​however​ ​its​ ​cultic​ ​tactics​ ​and​ ​control​ ​are
never​ ​established​ ​hearin.
2) ​ ​As​ ​above
3) Its​ ​interesting​ ​that​ ​this​ ​is​ ​titled​ ​as​ ​Cukt​ ​escape​ ​yet​ ​there​ ​is​ ​no​ ​evidence​ ​provided​ ​of​ ​cult
activity​ ​or​ ​working​ ​definition​ ​of​ ​cult​ ​given​ ​for​ ​objective​ ​or​ ​even​ ​subjective​ ​analysis.
4) I​ ​keep​ ​forgetting​ ​that​ ​you​ ​are​ ​much​ ​younger​ ​than​ ​me.​ ​I​ ​was​ ​always​ ​joyed​ ​at​ ​having​ ​a
friend​ ​who​ ​was​ ​as​ ​intellectual​ ​as​ ​you,​ ​not​ ​all​ ​my​ ​friends​ ​can​ ​compete​ ​in​ ​debate​ ​at​ ​the
level​ ​you​ ​engaged​ ​at.​ ​Besting​ ​me​ ​on​ ​many​ ​occassions.
5) Im​ ​glad​ ​to​ ​see​ ​you​ ​are​ ​doing​ ​well​ ​academically.​ ​Hopefully​ ​you​ ​finish​ ​your​ ​course​ ​soon
and​ ​can​ ​find​ ​a​ ​good​ ​Job.
6) This​ ​early​ ​account​ ​is​ ​undeniable​ ​as​ ​far​ ​as​ ​the​ ​physical​ ​facts​ ​go.​ ​I​ ​do​ ​forget​ ​that​ ​you
converted​ ​at​ ​such​ ​a​ ​young​ ​age.​ ​3-4​ ​years​ ​younger​ ​than​ ​me.
7) Fair​ ​enough.
8) Potters​ ​House​ ​had​ ​no​ ​idea​ ​who​ ​you​ ​were!​ ​Letter​ ​boxing​ ​is​ ​quite​ ​random​ ​and​ ​certainly
does​ ​not​ ​only​ ​target​ ​“​ ​disadvantaged​ ​“​ ​areas​ ​only.​ ​If​ ​you​ ​were​ ​lonely,​ ​if​ ​you​ ​did​ ​have
lack,​ ​then​ ​certainly​ ​the​ ​lovr​ ​shown​ ​to​ ​you​ ​was​ ​of​ ​some​ ​advantage,​ ​not​ ​to​ ​mention​ ​the
inclusion​ ​in​ ​events.​ ​Whoch​ ​would​ ​have​ ​happened​ ​even​ ​if​ ​you​ ​were​ ​not​ ​committed.
9) Who​ ​are​ ​you​ ​referring​ ​to​ ​when​ ​you​ ​say​ ​us?​ ​I​ ​was​ ​fatherless,​ ​i​ ​found​ ​father​ ​figures​ ​and
God​ ​the​ ​uktimate​ ​father.​ ​Sure​ ​i​ ​was​ ​poor​ ​and​ ​so​ ​were​ ​you,​ ​but​ ​hardly​ ​destitute.
Migrants?​ ​Sure​ ​some,​ ​neglected?​ ​None​ ​that​ ​i​ ​knew​ ​were​ ​neglected,​ ​you​ ​had​ ​a​ ​great
mom,​ ​so​ ​did​ ​i.​ ​But​ ​sure​ ​even​ ​if​ ​most​ ​were​ ​in​ ​those​ ​positions,​ ​what​ ​did​ ​the​ ​church​ ​do?​ ​It
reached​ ​out​ ​to​ ​them​ ​and​ ​helped​ ​them.​ ​I​ ​started​ ​off​ ​unable​ ​to​ ​stand​ ​up​ ​for​ ​myself​ ​or​ ​hold
down​ ​a​ ​decent​ ​job​ ​but​ ​God​ ​and​ ​the​ ​church​ ​helped​ ​me,​ ​i​ ​have​ ​seen​ ​so​ ​many​ ​others​ ​who
had​ ​nothing​ ​be​ ​raised​ ​up​ ​in​ ​the​ ​church​ ​and​ ​become​ ​successful.​ ​Infact,​ ​of​ ​not​ ​all,​ ​then
most.​ ​In​ ​fact​ ​not​ ​many​ ​mighty,​ ​not​ ​many​ ​noble​ ​are​ ​called.
10) Case​ ​in​ ​point
11) I​ ​particularly​ ​enjoyed​ ​your​ ​use​ ​of​ ​our​ ​inconveniently​ ​barred​ ​door.​ ​Mind​ ​control​ ​is​ ​typically
the​ ​domain​ ​of​ ​conspiracy​ ​theories.​ ​But​ ​i​ ​will​ ​humour​ ​you.the​ ​church​ ​does​ ​not​ ​limit​ ​the
time​ ​or​ ​exposure​ ​to​ ​those​ ​who​ ​dont​ ​care​ ​to​ ​be​ ​limited,​ ​yes​ ​rhe​ ​calender​ ​is​ ​encourage​ ​but
not​ ​enforced,​ ​yes​ ​attendance/ministry​ ​is​ ​praised​ ​but​ ​not​ ​mandatory.
12) Social​ ​media​ ​is​ ​didcouraged​ ​but​ ​not​ ​banned.​ ​It​ ​never​ ​was.​ ​I​ ​am​ ​flatly​ ​unable​ ​to​ ​see​ ​how
anyone​ ​ahould​ ​be​ ​able​ ​to​ ​enforce​ ​a​ ​ban​ ​from​ ​reaearching​ ​the​ ​potters​ ​house​ ​online​ ​of
they​ ​would​ ​even​ ​want​ ​to?​ ​ ​Now​ ​as​ ​to​ ​limiting​ ​information​ ​a​ ​more​ ​spurious​ ​charge​ ​i​ ​have
yet​ ​to​ ​see,​ ​Pastor​ ​Walsh​ ​and​ ​Mitchell​ ​both​ ​actively​ ​encourage​ ​the​ ​reading​ ​of​ ​news,​ ​the
reading​ ​of​ ​a​ ​vast​ ​array​ ​of​ ​christian​ ​and​ ​non​ ​christian​ ​works.​ ​While​ ​there​ ​is​ ​no​ ​special
dedication​ ​to​ ​having​ ​members​ ​rewd​ ​whatever​ ​they​ ​feel​ ​like​ ​-​ ​i​ ​cannot​ ​remember​ ​a​ ​single
time​ ​it​ ​was​ ​discouraged​ ​-​ ​certainly​ ​jot​ ​in​ ​the​ ​medieval​ ​catholic​ ​way​ ​you​ ​seem​ ​to​ ​be
insinuating.
13) ​ ​This​ ​is​ ​an​ ​even​ ​more​ ​easily​ ​rebutted​ ​point​ ​than​ ​any​ ​you​ ​will​ ​probably​ ​offer.​ ​In​ ​fact​ ​you
yourself​ ​later​ ​mention​ ​that​ ​it​ ​is​ ​good​ ​to​ ​be​ ​close​ ​to​ ​the​ ​things​ ​you​ ​want​ ​to​ ​do,​ ​so
encouragement​ ​to​ ​live​ ​close​ ​to​ ​the​ ​church​ ​os​ ​good​ ​advise​ ​for​ ​the​ ​active​ ​member.
However​ ​may​ ​i​ ​remond​ ​you​ ​of​ ​my​ ​good​ ​friend​ ​Richard​ ​Gaddes,​ ​father​ ​to​ ​Andrew
Gaddes​ ​and​ ​July​ ​Bourne.​ ​He​ ​has​ ​for​ ​his​ ​entire​ ​christian​ ​life​ ​lived​ ​1​ ​hour​ ​from​ ​church​ ​and
he​ ​holds​ ​a​ ​position​ ​of​ ​eminance​ ​in​ ​the​ ​church.
14) You​ ​say​ ​you​ ​moved​ ​out​ ​with​ ​your​ ​sister​ ​into​ ​a​ ​small​ ​house,​ ​becuase,​ ​potters​ ​house
doscouraged​ ​living​ ​with​ ​unbeleivers​ ​-​ ​this​ ​is​ ​standard​ ​across​ ​the​ ​christian​ ​world.​ ​But​ ​it​ ​is
also​ ​plainly​ ​false,​ ​Pritika​ ​is​ ​your​ ​older​ ​sister​ ​by​ ​what?​ ​3​ ​years?​ ​It​ ​makes​ ​sense​ ​that​ ​you
would​ ​live​ ​with​ ​her,​ ​it​ ​is​ ​also​ ​fsr​ ​more​ ​logical​ ​to​ ​love​ ​with​ ​people​ ​you​ ​know​ ​and​ ​are
suppottive​ ​of​ ​your​ ​life​ ​convictions.​ ​If​ ​you​ ​had​ ​chosen​ ​to​ ​live​ ​witg​ ​other​ ​girls​ ​and​ ​continued
to​ ​do​ ​so​ ​as​ ​a​ ​christian​ ​i​ ​know​ ​that​ ​there​ ​would​ ​be​ ​no​ ​problem,​ ​except​ ​the​ ​harmless
question​ ​as​ ​to​ ​why​ ​you​ ​did​ ​so.
15) Here​ ​you​ ​dont​ ​mention​ ​that​ ​you​ ​moved​ ​into​ ​a​ ​house​ ​with​ ​ither​ ​apart​ ​from​ ​your​ ​sister,​ ​a
“girls”​ ​house​ ​-​ ​perhaps​ ​an​ ​editing​ ​error.​ ​This​ ​practice​ ​is​ ​extremely​ ​common​ ​especially​ ​in
rural​ ​regions​ ​and​ ​if​ ​you​ ​were​ ​truthful​ ​was​ ​completely​ ​voluntary.​ ​They​ ​would​ ​have
managed​ ​it​ ​without​ ​you.​ ​70%​ ​is​ ​probably​ ​accurate​ ​but​ ​its​ ​probably​ ​closer​ ​to​ ​50%​ ​as​ ​ruth
was​ ​older,​ ​i​ ​am​ ​sure​ ​protika​ ​was​ ​to​ ​or​ ​near​ ​to​ ​it,​ ​you​ ​and​ ​simone​ ​are​ ​not​ ​married,​ ​so​ ​tht
leaves​ ​the​ ​gibson​ ​twins​ ​and​ ​1​ ​or​ ​two​ ​others.​ ​Regardless​ ​of​ ​the​ ​point​ ​though,​ ​here​ ​you
are​ ​arguing​ ​a​ ​matter​ ​of​ ​culture,​ ​not​ ​of​ ​brain​ ​washing​ ​or​ ​force.​ ​In​ ​fact​ ​in​ ​many​ ​cultures,
marriage​ ​after​ ​25​ ​for​ ​men​ ​or​ ​women​ ​os​ ​considered​ ​odd.​ ​Your​ ​own​ ​parents​ ​culture​ ​being
one​ ​of​ ​them.
16) They​ ​do.​ ​Show​ ​me​ ​a​ ​single​ ​car​ ​lover​ ​who​ ​spends​ ​more​ ​on​ ​thier​ ​TV,​ ​or​ ​a​ ​single​ ​women
who​ ​cares​ ​for​ ​make​ ​up​ ​but​ ​instead​ ​buys​ ​paintball​ ​equipment.​ ​Or​ ​a​ ​rugby​ ​fan​ ​who​ ​buys
soccer​ ​tickets​ ​instead.
17) R5his​ ​i​ ​have​ ​to​ ​be​ ​incredulous​ ​about.​ ​If​ ​you​ ​were​ ​in​ ​the​ ​church​ ​from​ ​14​ ​to​ ​24​ ​that​ ​means
that​ ​you​ ​gave​ ​3500​ ​a​ ​year.​ ​Now​ ​considering​ ​you​ ​could​ ​not​ ​be​ ​earning​ ​35000​ ​for​ ​4​ ​years
and​ ​left​ ​when​ ​you​ ​were​ ​about​ ​23​ ​that​ ​means​ ​youal​ ​actually​ ​had​ ​about​ ​5​ ​years​ ​of​ ​working
life​ ​after​ ​school​ ​to​ ​tithe​ ​on​ ​which​ ​drags​ ​the​ ​rate​ ​up​ ​to​ ​7000​ ​a​ ​year,​ ​if​ ​you​ ​earned​ ​a​ ​highly
unlikely​ ​40000​ ​a​ ​year​ ​that​ ​would​ ​mean​ ​that​ ​between​ ​tithes​ ​and​ ​offerings​ ​you​ ​gave​ ​over
15%​ ​of​ ​your​ ​income,​ ​a​ ​truly​ ​commendable​ ​amount​ ​but​ ​still​ ​far​ ​less​ ​then​ ​most​ ​gove​ ​to
vices.​ ​If​ ​you​ ​were​ ​properly​ ​brainwashed​ ​i​ ​am​ ​sure​ ​they​ ​could​ ​have​ ​gotten​ ​more.
18) This​ ​was​ ​already​ ​been​ ​debunked​ ​in​ ​richards​ ​example.​ ​But​ ​rwally​ ​this​ ​was​ ​never​ ​a​ ​rule.​ ​If
you​ ​were​ ​truly​ ​finding​ ​it​ ​hard​ ​to​ ​make​ ​it​ ​to​ ​parra,​ ​then​ ​you​ ​could​ ​have​ ​gone​ ​to​ ​another
church​ ​if​ ​it​ ​was​ ​closer.​ ​No​ ​harm​ ​would​ ​have​ ​been​ ​done.​ ​You​ ​would​ ​still​ ​be​ ​cared
for/about​ ​and​ ​considered​ ​a​ ​sister​ ​an​ ​friend.​ ​ ​In​ ​fact​ ​this​ ​is​ ​exactly​ ​what​ ​Mr​ ​warren​ ​did,
though​ ​the​ ​details​ ​elude​ ​me.
19) So​ ​you​ ​moved,​ ​and​ ​then​ ​you​ ​spoke​ ​to​ ​Anne​ ​about​ ​it?​ ​Why​ ​bother,​ ​you​ ​already​ ​made​ ​the
decision.​ ​If​ ​she​ ​dod​ ​get​ ​emotional​ ​it​ ​was​ ​probably​ ​hurt.
20) Hostile?​ ​And​ ​yet​ ​you​ ​describe​ ​an​ ​entirely​ ​non-hostile​ ​converstation​ ​/​ ​comment.​ ​And​ ​her
point​ ​is​ ​valid,​ ​both​ ​in​ ​the​ ​evidence​ ​of​ ​tmyour​ ​life​ ​but​ ​also​ ​in​ ​logic,​ ​if​ ​you​ ​wanted​ ​to​ ​be​ ​an
activd​ ​member​ ​then​ ​this​ ​would​ ​hinder​ ​you,​ ​ontop​ ​of​ ​that​ ​-​ ​there​ ​are​ ​many​ ​antichristian
ingeneral​ ​infuences​ ​in​ ​universities.
 21) Ashikas​ ​cry​ ​hear​ ​i​ ​believe,​ ​i​ ​dont​ ​think​ ​she​ ​is​ ​lying​ ​about​ ​this.​ ​Such​ ​is​ ​rhe​ ​infection​ ​of
social​ ​justice​ ​on​ ​the​ ​soul.​ ​1)​ ​she​ ​isnt​ ​being​ ​subjugated​ ​(insert​ ​definitions​ ​here)​ ​2)​ ​it​ ​is
occassionally​ ​preached​ ​that​ ​women​ ​in​ ​general​ ​make​ ​poor​ ​leaders​ ​and​ ​that​ ​in​ ​general
they​ ​are​ ​far​ ​more​ ​emotional​ ​then​ ​men.​ ​These​ ​are​ ​not​ ​exclusive​ ​to​ ​the​ ​PH​ ​but​ ​long​ ​held
facts,​ ​this​ ​doesnt​ ​exclude​ ​someone​ ​from​ ​leadership​ ​though.​ ​Biblical​ ​precedent​ ​and
instruction​ ​does.​ ​Besides​ ​she​ ​is​ ​proving​ ​the​ ​point​ ​here.​ ​She​ ​is​ ​far​ ​more​ ​emotional​ ​than
almost​ ​all​ ​men​ ​i​ ​know.​ ​I​ ​ahve​ ​to​ ​be​ ​careful​ ​because​ ​i​ ​am​ ​far​ ​less​ ​than​ ​most.
22) You​ ​never​ ​“had”​ ​to​ ​tithe,​ ​you​ ​could​ ​have​ ​attended​ ​church​ ​for​ ​the​ ​entire​ ​time​ ​and​ ​given
nothing.​ ​That​ ​pretty​ ​leechy​ ​but​ ​if​ ​you​ ​dont​ ​value​ ​it​ ​that​ ​much,​ ​dont​ ​pay.​ ​Besides​ ​the​ ​early
church​ ​went​ ​far​ ​further​ ​and​ ​gave​ ​all.
23) Welcome​ ​to​ ​the​ ​working​ ​life.​ ​I​ ​dont​ ​understand​ ​your​ ​complaint​ ​here.​ ​I​ ​work​ ​40hrs​ ​a​ ​week
and​ ​am​ ​committed​ ​to​ ​church.
24) Again​ ​you​ ​never​ ​had​ ​to!​ ​It​ ​is​ ​encouraged;​ ​because​ ​it​ ​is​ ​wise​ ​to​ ​seek​ ​advise​ ​-​ ​however
from​ ​seeing​ ​your​ ​other​ ​online​ ​complaints​ ​i​ ​can​ ​deduce​ ​that​ ​you​ ​are​ ​referring​ ​to
confessing​ ​of​ ​salacious​ ​non-christian​ ​activities.​ ​And​ ​the​ ​being​ ​removed​ ​from​ ​a​ ​position
that​ ​strictly​ ​forbids​ ​such​ ​activities.
25) This​ ​literally​ ​means​ ​nothing​ ​-​ ​it​ ​is​ ​the​ ​kind​ ​of​ ​wimsical​ ​millenial​ ​dogma​ ​that​ ​has​ ​no
bearing​ ​in​ ​reality.
26) We​ ​are​ ​not​ ​the​ ​military,​ ​you​ ​could​ ​have​ ​at​ ​any​ ​time​ ​backed​ ​off​ ​from​ ​any​ ​level​ ​of
commitment​ ​and​ ​still​ ​been​ ​loved​ ​and​ ​befriended.
27) What​ ​cost​ ​in​ ​personal​ ​identity​ ​did​ ​you​ ​have?​ ​If​ ​you​ ​didnt​ ​identify​ ​with​ ​your​ ​home​ ​culture
and​ ​didnt​ ​identify​ ​with​ ​anything​ ​at​ ​school.​ ​Besides​ ​if​ ​the​ ​bible​ ​and​ ​its​ ​message​ ​of
salvation​ ​is​ ​real​ ​then​ ​our​ ​identity​ ​comes​ ​only​ ​through​ ​that.​ ​Now​ ​i​ ​am​ ​not​ ​comparing​ ​the
church​ ​to​ ​salvation​ ​but​ ​you​ ​didnt​ ​have​ ​to​ ​identify​ ​with​ ​what​ ​we​ ​did​ ​as​ ​a​ ​church.​ ​Quite​ ​a
point​ ​of​ ​fact​ ​there​ ​are​ ​many​ ​different​ ​kinds​ ​of​ ​people​ ​woth​ ​very​ ​different​ ​personalitoes
and​ ​way​ ​of​ ​life​ ​in​ ​the​ ​church​ ​and​ ​non​ ​are​ ​subjugated​ ​or​ ​persecuted​ ​for​ ​that.
28) Loooooool​ ​this​ ​was​ ​funny,​ ​you​ ​have​ ​not​ ​at​ ​any​ ​point​ ​established​ ​a​ ​definition​ ​of​ ​a​ ​cult​ ​or
brough​ ​specific​ ​evidence​ ​that​ ​the​ ​PH​ ​engages​ ​in​ ​cultic​ ​behaviour.
29) What​ ​have​ ​you​ ​seen​ ​of​ ​the​ ​world​ ​that​ ​the​ ​PH​ ​stopped​ ​or​ ​hindered?​ ​Nothing.​ ​Certainly
most​ ​people​ ​in​ ​the​ ​potters​ ​house​ ​see​ ​more​ ​and​ ​are​ ​exposed​ ​to​ ​more​ ​than​ ​the​ ​adverage
worker.​ ​Point​ ​in​ ​fact,​ ​many​ ​of​ ​my​ ​friends​ ​have​ ​been​ ​to​ ​many​ ​countries​ ​overseas​ ​only
because​ ​they​ ​were​ ​doing​ ​missionary​ ​trips​ ​through​ ​the​ ​church.
Now​ ​ive​ ​probably​ ​misunderstood​ ​some​ ​things​ ​so​ ​please​ ​enlighten​ ​me​ ​if​ ​you​ ​want.
Bible​ ​study​ ​2​ ​hrs
Church​ ​wednesday​ ​2hrs
Churxh​ ​sunday​ ​4​ ​hrs
Outreach​ ​thyrsday​ ​night​ ​1​ ​hour
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