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EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
INTRODUCING THE NOW GENERATION
Eroding margins. Legislative hurdles. Lagging technological adoption rates. The hotel industry faces a seemingly constant
onslaught of obstacles. Fortunately, the industry also breeds an unyielding pipeline of talent ready to tackle them head on.

Around the globe, this next wave of leaders is doing just that. They’re ascending the ranks, voicing their opinions and
making decisions that will shape not only the companies at which they work but also the broader hotel industry in which
they serve.

They’re not the next generation. They’re the Now Generation. And they’re here to leave their mark.

This Hotel News Now special report, which is sponsored by Access Point Financial, features the collective insight of seven
such leaders. In their day jobs, their titles include president, CFO, principal and VP. They also moonlight on the IHG Owners
Association’s Emerging Leaders Council.

The stories herein reflect some of their most daunting challenges. Bridging the generational divide to enact change is one
of them. Leveraging their millennial roots to serve this game-changing cohort is another. Along the way you’ll also read
four takes on the future of branding as well as thoughts on the industry’s greatest areas of need.

The end result provides a brief glimpse of the future—of what’s in store for the hotel industry and how these leaders plan to
conquer it. The good news? It’s a bright outlook indeed.

Happy reading,
The HNN editorial team

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The IHG Owners Association, which represents the interests of thousands of InterContinental Hotels Group owners and operators worldwide,
established the Emerging Leaders Council for young pioneers in 2011. Already the group is being hailed for its influence, perspective and
growing role within the Association and the IHG brand.

The ELC is comprised of members from around the globe and is represented on each of the IHG Owners Association committees. Led by its
own Executive Committee, the ELC focuses on key areas such as leadership development and owner engagement. Here, young owners share
responsibilities and have a voice when decisions are made within the Association.
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IN HOTELS,
THE OLD SCHOOL
INFORMS THE NEW
BY PATRICK MAYOCK, EDITOR-IN-CHIEF

R
avi Patel was always in thing or two.
the hotel business, living “My dad was like, ‘We build
and working in hotels these things to hold them forever.
owned and operated by You’ve got to make sure you build
his parents for as long as he could it so you can keep it for 100 years.’
remember. From the front desk “And then I got involved
to maintenance to every position and I said, ‘You know what,
in between, he learned from his we’re building a lot of these
father the importance of hard institutional assets and we
work, integrity and hospitality. should flip them within three
Then he went to college to years,’” he said.
study the business of hotels and It wasn’t an easy conversation
returned to teach his father a CONTINUE READING ON PAGE 5

From left: Superhost Enterprise’s Samir Lakhany, Hawkeye Hotels’ Ravi Patel, Atlantic Hotel Group Limited’s Arzu P. Molubhoy
and Worth Hotels’ Doug Denman (All Photos: Patrick Mayock)

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to have, said the 29-year-old Patel, hotels,” said 30-year-old Samir But the exit is just as

THE OLD SCHOOL INFORMS THE NEW


who now serves as president Lakhany, VP of Superhost important, Patel said.
of his family-owned Hawkeye Enterprise. “We’re a generation “I look at every disposal
Hotels. that has really taken it from a through an institutional lens.
“It was me pushing my dad strategic standpoint, and now What’s my cap rate going to be;
out of his comfort zone pretty we’re looking at it from more of how do I maximize my proceeds
aggressively. And there would be an institutional level where we’re out of this?” he said. “We look at it
lots of very, very vocal and heated having that leadership role not from both lenses, and I think that
conversations,” he said. only of managing one property works out really well. Dad’s a little
“But now that he has bought but managing a corporation and more old school. We make sure
into the philosophy and he knows an organization.” we can cash flow forever and ever
it works because we’ve done it “They did the hard work; and ever. And I look at it like, if we
two or three times, he’s all about they did the grinding. … They build this property and stabilize
it. … And overall, our net proceeds gave us that foundation that we it within three years and get a 7.5
are a heck of a lot higher than needed,” said 24-year-old Arzu P. cap rate on it, we can get this kind
continuing to retain all these Molubhoy, CFO of Atlantic Hotels of delta and margin on it.”
assets,” Patel said. Group Limited. “Now we’re taking Old school also can mean
the technology that we have, the risk-averse, explained 31-year-
THE GENERATIONAL DIVIDE education we obtained and all old Robert Jensen, principal
Patel’s experience is familiar that great stuff and pushing the of the investment division at
to many second-generation box, pushing it to the next level.” Kensington Investment Group.
hoteliers. Led down a trail blazed Day-to-day operations still “Growth takes risk. And I
by their parents, they’ve faced matter, Patel said. His father think what you’ve all seen with
some strife and internal conflict instilled that lesson into his DNA your folks is as they got older,
in their attempts to chart a course early on. it was hard to trade out these
with more strategic priorities in “My dad, every time we things. There’s risk, there’s capital
mind. underwrite a deal, says, ‘You’re gains taxes. And it takes work,” he
“Our fathers and mothers not even building the damn thing said. “And I think when I started
were in the industry and really unless we can underwrite it to CONTINUE READING ON PAGE 6
the folks (who wanted) to be in keep it for 100 years,’” he said.

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CONTINUED FROM PAGE 5 industry leaders come from that thing versus a boomer as opposed
to become more involved in our first- to second-generation family to family businesses evolving
THE OLD SCHOOL INFORMS THE NEW

company, there was a stagnant business dynamic, they’re still and going from first-generation
period where they needed new facing the same issues. to second-generation.
energy that has the appetite for “What’s being discussed has “The Saul organization is a
risk.” more to do with family businesses family organization,” he added.
Education and technology and first-generation to second- “It’s just they started in the 1890s
shaped much of that prodding generation as opposed to our as opposed to the ‘50s and ‘60s like
and perspective, all the hoteliers industry as a whole,” said the we have for most of this room.”
agreed. With better tools comes assistant VP, hotel performance Doug Denman, the 36-year-old
more clarity and different ways support, B.F. Saul Company. president of Worth Hotels, shared
“For B.F. Saul Company, which a unique perspective as well.
of doing things.
has been in the hotel business “We’re first-generation hoteliers.
for almost 40 years now, those I’m learning here on the fly. I
NEXT CAN BE FIRST
analytic processes have been have had a lot of opportunities
Herb Glose, age 28, pointed out that going on for quite some time. … to learn, do the maintenance,
while not all of today’s emerging I’m not sure that it’s a millennial clean the rooms, and I’ve had an
CONTINUE READING ON PAGE 7

“They did the hard work; they did the grinding. … They gave
us that foundation that we needed. Now we’re taking the
technology that we have, the education we obtained and all that
great stuff and pushing the box, pushing it to the next level.”vel.”
-Arzu P. Molubhoy, CFO of Atlantic Hotels Group Limited

“We’re a generation that has really taken it from a strategic


standpoint, and now we’re looking at it from more of an
institutional level where we’re having that leadership role not
only of managing one property but managing a corporation and
an organization.”
-Samir Lakhany, VP of Superhost Enterprise

“My dad, every time we underwrite a deal, says, ‘You’re not even
building the damn thing unless we can underwrite it to keep it
for 100 years.’”
-Ravi Patel, president of Hawkeye Hotels

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CONTINUED FROM PAGE 6 and executive VP of Equinox they’re focused on incorporating
opportunity to do that a little later Hospitality, was a child, hotels

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those things that have the biggest
in life. … Where these guys got to represented the cutting edge. impact, Lakhany said.
do that as kids, I’m getting to do “When people would go to a “It’s very important as leaders
that now,” he said, indicating the hotel room, specifically a full- within the industry to focus on
other hoteliers in the room. service hotel, they would see key technology points to help
something they’d never see in us move forward. … It’s picking
ADAPTING TO CHANGE their house. They’d see this TV or those key essentials,” he said.
Regardless of their upbringing, some type of channel or design Because at the end of the day,
next-generation hoteliers that would be five, 10, 20 years some old-school lessons still
agreed that most share a more ahead of what they had in their apply. Whether talking brand
analytic approach to running the house,” the 37-year-old said. refreshes, CapEx or transactions,
business—and that approach can Now the hotel industry is in costs are costs, and that’s
create tension with more tried- a perpetual state of catch-up. something every generation can
and-true operating practices. Innovation, often through brand appreciate, Jensen said.
Jensen’s parents, for instance, mandates, is slow to roll out, “There is a rule we have we
used to rotate capital-expenditure Suleman said. maintain to this day. We always
spending to tackle one key project It’s also costly, Molubhoy start looking at a deal with basic
each year. added. She reserves 2% to 3% of math on the back of a napkin.
“This year, they do the carpet. funds to reinvest in technological And typically, if it doesn’t pencil
Next year, we’ll do the kitchen. upgrades at Atlantic Hotels Group. on the back of a napkin, there’s
Next year, we’ll do the light Patel prefers to amortize a a good chance it won’t pencil,”
fixtures. Whatever,” he said. “The piece of debt over a shorter time he said. “So as much as there is
problem is you can’t do that frame to fund such expenditures. technology and I can get into pro
with the way the models are set However that capital is formas and get into the analysis
up today because you replace allocated, participants said process as much as you want,
the carpet and the (property hoteliers young and old can at least for us, we can quickly
improvement plan) comes out, agree they’re crucial to continue figure out if it’s going to work or
there’s a good chance you might to serve the changing needs of not. I don’t think that’s going to
change the carpet anyway.” guests. change.”
Now those improvements are “(It’s) not only the comfort of
viewed within the context of exit your bed and what makes you UP NEXT: HOW WILL YOU LEAVE
YOUR MARK?
strategies. feel like you had a good night’s
“If you look at it from an rest, but it’s also technology has
investment standpoint, how to become such a large part of how
maximize yield, it’s hard to put a we live our lives that it needs to
$2-(million) or $3-million capital be incorporated,” Lakhany said.
injection into the investment The next generation of leaders
every five to 10 years. The model is tasked with making sure
kind of forces you to do it and
make the exit and use your
money somewhere else. It’s not
the way my folks did it originally,”
Jensen said.
Exacerbating the issue is the
pace of change itself, participants
agreed.
When Sam Suleman, principal

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HOW
The Now Generation will have plenty of opportunities to leave its mark.
That’s the nature of the ever-changing hotel industry, where new demands
emerge every day and long-standing needs widen. Hotel News Now asked
members of the IHG Owners Association’s Emerging Leaders Council which
of those challenges is most pressing, and how they aim to address them.

SAM SULEMAN
Principal & Executive VP, Equinox Hospitality

“If you’re in a branded environment, soft-branded environment or boutique


environment, provide experiences to your guests. We’re using technology as
much as we can, but the human interactions must be true and genuine and
embody (guests’) lifestyles and their perspectives. That’s more important
than anything.” SAMIR LAKHANY
VP, Superhost Enterprise

“I wouldn’t necessarily call it a void; it’s more of an


opportunity to improve. … It’s that experience that you’re
going to be able to create for that guest. A lot of it has to
do with service. Service is still No. 1 in our books. But how
you present that service and how that guest remembers
that service is how you’ll see a change in our industry.”

ARZU P. MOLUBHOY
CFO, Atlantic Hotels Group Limited
“How can we provide that instantaneous gratification to th
these millennials while still providing the service our ho
on? And then keeping up with technology, because every
RAVI PATEL new comes on, something different comes up. By the time
President, Hawkeye Hotels and implement it, it’s old.”
“I think one thing we’ll see in the next three to five years is a brand catered
around more of the hostel concept. When I’m traveling and I’m looking for
a very good experience, especially when I’m abroad, I almost always stay
in hostels. And if we could have a slightly higher-end version of that—I
know of (some) who are actually working on it right now—I think that will
be something you will really see take off.”

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YOUR MARK?

HERB GLOSE
Assistant VP, Hotel Performance Support, B.F. Saul Company
DOUG DENMAN “I think there is a void when it comes to technology. There is not a
President, Worth Hotels technology company out there that I have seen that understands the
hotel industry. And on the other side, you have a lot of hoteliers who don’t
“Continue to up our game. Elevate our continual training understand the technology that’s out there. If someone who really gets it
with our team to be able to adjust to trends and adjust to and gets the needs of the brands, understands the needs and constraints
changes within the guest expectations that they have. It’s that owners face, and can put something out that satisfies our guest, they
just a continual, ongoing, never-ending training process to probably could start printing money.”
keep our team where they can deliver the expectation the
guests have.”

hese Gen Zs and ROBERT JENSEN


otels are focused Principal, Investment Division, Kensington Investment Group
year something
“I am in the Bay Area where there is so much of a tech focus, but what’s really
e we understand
interesting is you are seeing non-tech companies opening offices in the Bay
Area because they’re trying to stay ahead of technology. Mercedes Benz is
opening a (research and development) department in San Francisco. They’re
trying to stay in front of this thing. And I think if you don’t, it’s disruptive. How
many industries is tech disrupting right now? It is clearly disrupting the hotel
industry.”

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T
he only thing certain about Those reasons and more make
the future of hotel brands is predicting the future a daunting
the uncertainty surrounding task—but that didn’t stop a group
them. of up-and-coming owners from
For every legacy flag, there is trying to do just that.
an onslaught of new entrants in the Their responses addressed
brand game from home and afar. All everything from distribution
the while, a constant march of new support (or the lack thereof) to
distribution platforms are clawing loyalty reach (by the millions) to
away margins as they wedge a bullish take on boutiques (and
themselves between the hotel owner the soft flags that frequently
and the guest. accompany them).

WITH THAT, HERE ARE FOUR TAKES ON THE


FUTURE OF HOTEL BRANDING:

1
WHAT BRANDS LACK IN DISTRIBUTION, THEY MORE THAN MAKE UP FOR WITH
LOYALTY REACH
The future might be uncertain, but this much is clear: Brands need not double as distribution
platforms, said Herb Glose, assistant VP, hotel performance support, B.F. Saul Company. Those
are a dime a dozen.
You don’t need a brand as an assurance of quality either, the 28-year-old said. “Part of the
cookie-cutter nature of our hotels is that consistency is a mark of quality. Everybody is going
on TripAdvisor.”
So why raise a flag on your hotel? In a word: loyalty, Glose said.
“I think the power of the brands now comes from loyalty and specialty loyalty programs,”
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“I think the power of the brands now comes from loyalty and
specialty loyalty programs.”
-Herb Glose, assistant VP, hotel performance support, B.F. Saul Company

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he said. Those programs keep brands top of mind in the initial booking phase, particularly for
points junkies seeking their next free stay or status level.
“It’s that kind of reach and penetration a brand can bring to owners that really provides
a great deal of value,” Glose said. “Some of the more distribution-based brands are going to
struggle, and we will eventually hit a tipping point when franchise fees and marketing fees
have to be weighed against independent distribution costs and independent marketing costs.”

2
OWNERS WILL CONSTANTLY QUESTION THE VALUE BRANDS BRING
Sam Suleman, principal and executive VP of Equinox Hospitality, thinks the industry is at a
crossroads.
“The next 10 years are going to determine whether brands stay around,” the 37-year-old said.
While he admits brands are important, Suleman said they must continue to prove themselves
by adding value—not only to owners on the bottom line but also to guests.
“The brands and owners have to find a way to provide value and provide products and
services and actual things that matter to the guest financially and authentically,” he said.
“Otherwise the brands won’t be relevant.”

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4 TAKES ON THE FUTURE OF HOTEL BRANDING

SUCCESS WILL LIE WITH SOFT BRANDS


Legacy brands serve their purpose, but for Ravi Patel the future increasingly lies with soft
brands such as Marriott International’s Autograph Collection and Hilton Worldwide Holdings’
Curio—A Collection by Hilton.
“That has been wildly popular recently,” said the 29-year-old president of Hawkeye Hotels.
Patel is betting on that popularity with Hawkeye’s recently purchased Hotel Fort Des
Moines in Des Moines, Iowa.
“Everybody there knows the Hotel Fort Des Moines; no one wants to lose that name. That
is so important to the community, so how do we get that base of loyalty in there without
ripping that name away?” he asked.
The answer: a soft brand.
“We’re going to end up soft branding that property,” Patel said. “At least half of that property
will be a soft brand. The other half we might do another brand in the same brand family.”

“This industry is becoming so homogenous right now, that


people our age who aren’t in the hotel industry, they don’t
know the difference between Hampton Inn, or Fairfield Inn, or
SpringHill Suites.”
-Robert Jensen, principal, investment division, Kensington Investment Group

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BYE BYE, BRANDS; HELLO, BOUTIQUE
The popularity of soft brands speaks to a broader trend: the rise of boutiques, said Robert
Jensen, the 31-year-old principal, investment division, Kensington Investment Group.
“This industry is becoming so homogenous right now, that people our age who aren’t in
the hotel industry, they don’t know the difference between Hampton Inn, or Fairfield Inn, or
SpringHill Suites,” he said.
Boutique brands provide a break from that homogeneity, and guests are responding in
droves.
Don’t be surprised to see owners respond in turn with new boutique developments, Jensen
predicted.
“You will see the boutique brands come up where (guests) are looking for the more unique
experiences,” he said.
Some of them certainly will take on a soft brand, he added. To Glose’s original point: “That
is how you keep the loyalty base in there.”

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F
ront-desk associate or in freestyle rap on his off days.
freestyle rapper? The Working alongside Del is another
two need not be mutually double-duty performer who
exclusive—particularly spends part of his time as a
as operators seek “rock stars” to bartender.
provide a more authentic level of “These guys know exactly
service to guests who increasingly what it is to be really engaged
want that real experience. with your audience,” Patel said.
Who better to know about “So now whenever I see the
what millennial guests, in surveys come in from that hotel,
particular, want than hoteliers it literally names off, ‘Oh yeah,

“Satisfaction is more than 300 points lower among Gen Y guests who
have a low opinion of staff than among Gen Y guests who have a high
opinion of the hotel staff. Hoteliers have the opportunity to improve both
satisfaction and loyalty rates by simply focusing on improving their staff
interactions with Gen Y guests.”
-Rick Garlick, global travel and hospitality practice lead at J.D. Power
Source: “J.D. Power 2014 North America hotel guest satisfaction index study”

who belong to that generation? I talked to Del, and he told me


“I always harp on with my what he does in Des Moines.’ It’s
corporate staff, I want people at really capturing a different kind
the front desk who have a rock- of associate as well and getting
star personality,” said Ravi Patel, them to work for you.”
the 29-year-old president of For Robert Jensen, the 31-year-
Hawkeye Hotels. old principal of Kensington
He has just that in Del, a Investment Group’s investment
front-desk associate at one of division, he most commonly
Hawkeye’s hotels who dabbles seeks to put his rock stars in the

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CONTINUED FROM PAGE 13 you need to relay to provide that on their own terms. And hotel
role of breakfast host. guest everything they need, staff needs to be ready, said
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“That’s the most important and provide it in a genuine and Doug Denman, the 36-year-old
position to staff in our hotels sincere manner.” president of Worth Hotels.
because people don’t want to talk That’s increasingly important, “When they choose to interact
to you at the front desk,” he said. particularly within the context of with the hotel team, it needs to
“There’s interaction at breakfast. the oft-cited millennial cohort, be a great experience,” he said.
You’ve got them sitting in one Patel said. “There needs to be a smile on
place for 15 minutes. There’s an “In terms of millennials and their face. There needs to be a
opportunity there.” their loyalty, a lot of it comes to genuine caring attitude back
He said the key to inspiring service as well,” Patel said. “We and forth from the hotel team
loyalty in guests is finding ways— are a lot harsher critics than member to the guest when
even in fleeting moments—to give other generations are. So that’s that person chooses to engage
them a genuine experience they been proven in a lot of different because sometimes they don’t
will remember. surveys and reports. The want to engage.”
Being genuine matters, said millennial generation judges a Can the hotel industry ever
Samir Lakhany, the 30-year-old VP lot harder than other generations satisfy the fickle millennial
of Superhost Enterprise. have. You have to step up your guest?
“It’s the keyword,” he said. game on that side of it to be “I’ve heard different ideas with
“You teach your front desk: Here’s able to capture loyalty from the the various brands of how you get
your script. Here’s what you need millennial generation.” that personal interaction,” Patel
to say. It’s so much harder to get Millennials want a different said. “Let’s say we take away the
your staff to understand what type of service—namely, service front desk. You walk into like the
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BY THE NUMBERS

66% 22% of 18- to 24-year-olds


belong to a hotel
$3,217
loyalty program
of millennials Amount

41%
consider travel millennials
an important spend on
part of their leisure travel
lifestyle of 25- to 34-year-olds
annually
belong to a hotel
loyalty program
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Apple Store or something like
that, and you get that concierge
service kind of feel. Those are
things we might be able to do if
it works with our labor models
as well.
“We’ll get there, and I think
everyone is pushing really hard
to be there,” he added. “I don’t
see it being too far into the
future.”

PAMPER YOUR ROCK STARS


Finding your next rock-star
associate is one challenge.
Keeping him or her is another,
especially if he or she falls
under the millennial umbrella.
Worth Hotels’ Doug Denman
One way to do that is to
appoint your best and brightest And never underestimate the Patel agreed, saying the
as GMs so their attitudes and value of cold, hard cash, Denman search for a great experience
outlooks trickle down to the rest said. translates into his own traveling
of the staff, Patel said. “I pay slightly above market behavior.
Another way is to entitle wages, and then I do performance- “When I’m traveling I typically
them, said Arzu P. Molubhoy, based bonuses,” he said. want an experiential stay. I
the 24-year-old CFO of Atlantic want a hotel where I will have a
Hotels Group Limited. very good experience. (I want) a
EXPERIENCE MATTERS
“Make them part of the team. property next to some really cool
“Experiential” is another
Make them part of the staff. restaurants, and by the way this
keyword that often pops up
Make them feel ownership. Make is happening two blocks away,
when discussing the millennial
them feel as one of the company and if you want to go check it out
traveler. Finding rock stars to
and not just another line-level you can do that,” he said.
provide excellent service on
employee or front-desk agent,” Patel said he doesn’t want to
property is one way to build that.
she said. only see what the experience is
Leveraging the best of the local
Upward mobility is key, too, like inside the hotel, but also what
community is another.
Jensen said. it’s like outside the hotel.
“When we look at our hotels,
“I see folks around me in
whether we are developing X,
the hotel industry, and they’re
Y or Z brand, I look to develop a
bouncing between jobs. … When
product not just surrounded by
we are bringing on this staff, it’s
a highway location anymore,”
important to show them there is
Denman said.
this upward mobility and there is
He wants a location
a reason you should be here for
surrounded by cool restaurants
more than two years,” he said. “I and unique local offerings.
think that’s important and maybe
this whole jumping around
between jobs is getting a bad rap
about loyalty.”

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