COT trading system with free indicator

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First Post: Oct 21, 2014 5:08am | Edited May 25, 2015
5:29am

sym

Joined Apr 2011 | Status: Working... (too much) :) | 356

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Hi All,

Before starting let me make this very clear:

1 - I'm not here to teach anything to anybody
2 - this thread is NOT for scalper, day traders or fast money
people
3 - this thread is for sharing tool and ideas in order to try to
improve trading and knowledge
4 - If you agree, welcome.

my name is Sym and I'm a trader and a coder.

Time ago I felt something was missing on the web. I needed a
tool for my trading decisions. For this reason I decided to code
an indicator.
And now this indi is going to be shared with you. It cost me a big
amount of time and efforts and I'm also thinking about possible
improvements and developments... for these reasons (and
others) please don't ask for MQL code.
Enjoy the indicator. My commitment is to keep the weekly data
up to date, explain how it works and give some hints.
Nothing more and nothing less.

EDIT 10-2-2015: "HOW TO"

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because COT indicator has been changing, below you'll find a PDF guide
in order to summarize and better explain his functions and use.
Hope to have done good !!! Enjoy and let me know.
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COTindicator 1.9 http://tinyurl.com/ox3hxhp

COT FILE 19-5-2015 http://tinyurl.com/oe4yvzq

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Oct 21, 2014 5:21am | Edited Oct 22, 2014 1:56am

sym

Joined Apr 2011 | Status: Working... (too much) :) | 356 Posts

Using COTIndi by Sym it's easy.

The only main indicator entry is: SHOWDATA (from 1 to 7) - picture 3

- input 1: DEALER (picture 1 - opened long and short futures contracts). The numbers
under DEALER are RED colored, this means the line chart below is drawn by these
numbers In the upper side of section 2 (see picture 1) there are: MAX and MIN opened
LONG POSITIONS (from 2006 till today, the numbers will be only positive), MAX and MIN
opened SHORT POSITIONS (from 2006 till today, the numbers will be only positive), MAX
and MIN opened NET POSITIONS (from 2006 till today, the numbers can be positive or
negative), MAX and MIN weekly price closure (from 2006 till today).
DEALER are large company who trade "futures" in order to protect their products/goods
from big movements in the forex market. They usually are on the wrong side of the
market.
- input 2 and 3: (picture 2) ASSET MANAGER and LEVERAGED FUND (opened long and
short futures contracts). The numbers under ASSET MNG or LEV FUND are RED colored,
this means the line chart below is drawn by these numbers. In the upper side of section 2
(see picture 1) there are: MAX and MIN opened LONG POSITIONS (from 2006 till today,
the numbers will be only positive), MAX and MIN opened SHORT POSITIONS (from 2006
till today, the numbers will be only positive), MAX and MIN opened NET POSITIONS (from
2006 till today, the numbers will be positive or negative), MAX and MIN weekly price
closure (from 2006 till today).
ASSET MANAGER and LEVERAGED FUND are the "big boys". The "Market Makers" who
move the prices as they wish. We must take care where they are, when and at what price
levels they had bought or sold. We can't predict what they will do next week, but if they
are full of BUY contracts from long time, perhaps it's time for us to built SELLING
PYRAMIDE. Vice versa if they are FULL of SELL contracts, we may consider to start buying.
- input 4 e 5: are not too much relevant, but they are in the COT report.
- input 6: NON REPORTABLE. These are small traders/speculators. Many time the majority
of them is on the wrong side of the market.
- input 7: (picture 4) the last but not least important: this entry shows the 3 most
important NET POSITION category at a glance. You can see DEALER/COMMERCIALS (green

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dotted line - wrong position on the market) - ASSET MNG + LEV FUND (red dotted line -
big speculators, banks, leveraged funds, central banks - they are almost always on
the right side of the market. Try to stay with them or understand what they are
doing) - NON RPT (gray dotted line - small speculators. They usually are late trying to
follow the MM.
Black line is the weekly closure price.

Below pictures 2, 3, and 4.

Attached Images (click to enlarge)

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Oct 21, 2014 5:23am

sym

Joined Apr 2011 | Status: Working... (too much) :) | 356 Posts

VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND:

as stated before we should try to do what Market Makers do or better (not easy) what
they are going to do.
If you note for these pairs:
GBPUSD
EURUSD
AUDUSD
NZDUSD
prices move accordingly (more or less) with the RED line (picture 4)

for these pairs:

USDCAD
USDCHF
USDJPY
it is the opposite (more or less), price move opposite the red line.

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Oct 21, 2014 5:42am | Edited at 6:11am

sym

Joined Apr 2011 | Status: Working... (too much) :) | 356 Posts

This is today situation on EURUSD

PRICE: from the beginning of March 2014 the EURUSD value went down till nowdays.
From 1.3912 to 1.2783 (weekly closure). It means almost 1,200 pips in 7 months.
Price could go down further to test 2012 low at 1.2159 or deeper to test 2010 low at
1.1966. This means another 800 pips down travel.
It's that movement possible? My answer is YES, it is.
It's that movement probable? Not very much.
And why?
Because large speculators had sold months ago, and sooner o later they'll start closing
SELL ORDERS and opening BUY ORDERS.
That could happen next week or next month or in a larger period. But for sure it will
happen.
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So I could start now to buy small lots every 50-100 pips. All I need is an account that can
substain 800 pips of DD without any sufference.
My target will be at least 800-1000 pips with 5-7 winning orders in a few months.

Attached Image (click to enlarge)

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Oct 21, 2014 10:16am

Phoenix.fx

| Joined Oct 2014 | Status: Member | 42 Posts

Nice, I will follow your thread. Would you mind adding some entries in order to illustrate
your thoery? Thanks

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Oct 21, 2014 12:32pm

4xplosion
| Joined Oct 2007 | Status: Member | 529 Posts
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Nice....

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Oct 21, 2014 1:09pm

kraven

Joined Apr 2010 | Status: happy as a pig in shit. | 1,384 Posts

Sym thank you for your excellent work, effort and generosity in sharing. will be following
as i have an interest in COT reports.

A 2 minute examine of the last chart Sym posted should show long term trades how
useful it could be with simple TL analyses of ASSET MNG + LEV FUND (red dotted line)

Attached Image (click to enlarge)

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Oct 21, 2014 1:15pm | Edited Oct 22, 2014 1:59am

sym

Joined Apr 2011 | Status: Working... (too much) :) | 356 Posts

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 Quoting Phoenix.fx
Nice, I will follow your thread. Would you mind adding some entries in order to illustrate your
thoery? Thanks

Hi Phoenix, thanks... but I didn't invent anything. COT trading is a way of trading many
people use.
There are COT indicators and sevices releasing COT data on payment.
So, nothing new. What was missing, was something free. And here we are.

Up above you see (on post 4) one suggestion of mine . That could be a good start on
EURUSD.

I'll post something else using the indicator.

Have a nice day

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Oct 21, 2014 1:16pm

sym

Joined Apr 2011 | Status: Working... (too much) :) | 356 Posts

Quoting 4xplosion
Nice....

Thanks
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Oct 21, 2014 1:20pm | Edited Oct 22, 2014 1:49am

sym

Joined Apr 2011 | Status: Working... (too much) :) | 356 Posts

Quoting kraven
Sym thank you for your excellent work, effort and generosity in sharing. will be following as i
have an interest in COT reports. A 2 minute examine of the last chart Sym posted should show
long term trades how useful it could be with simple TL analyses of ASSET MNG + LEV FUND
(red dotted line) {image}

Hi Kraven

thanks a lot for your analisys... The indi is new and I didn't had time to analize all aspects
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and implementions.
That because I chose to share it. More heads are better then one.
So thank you, I like this new trading approach and I think is pretty original.
Something to work with...

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Oct 21, 2014 5:46pm

billbss
Joined Apr 2006 | Status: Member | 4,287 Posts

Great thread, Sym.

Thanks for sharing your hard work.
I hope your thread gets the attention it deserves.

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Oct 21, 2014 5:58pm

hannele
Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Member | 210 Posts

Hi Sym,

thank you for sharing your work. I am looking forward following your thread with great
interest.

cheers
hannele

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Oct 21, 2014 10:06pm

MarketFox

Joined Jul 2014 | Status: Capitalism's Mercenary | 93 Posts

Hi, Sym.

This is AWESOME! I was working in something similar to this, but this is even better.
The COT is the deepest data you can have in Trading.

Suscribed and following with interest!

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Keep it up and stay green.
MarketFox.-

Trade, don't bet.

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Oct 21, 2014 10:13pm | Edited at 11:27pm

kraven

Joined Apr 2010 | Status: happy as a pig in shit. | 1,384 Posts

Quoting sym
{quote} Hi Kraven thanks a lot for your analisys... The indi is new and I didn't had time to analize
all aspects and implementions. That because I chose to share it. More heads are better then one.
So thank you, I like this new trading approach and I think is pretty original. Something to work
with...

No problem Sym, infact i've had time to load this excellent piece of work and believe the
best way to use this is on breakouts. I'm big on breakouts and fakeouts and use them in
my trading......... http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=500860

However i've noticed if you look at the AM LF line you get very few fakeouts, only
breakouts. I believe taking these breaks could be a good way to trade (see pic)

Attached Image (click to enlarge)

You could even use this method and incorporate daily entries if the day is moving in the
same direction as the breakout, choosing your preference to enter (eg inside bars, pin
bars, ma crosses etc). this way you build a millipede.

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.......and for those asking Sym for trading examples and what to do next? I believe that's
what he's here for, correct me if i'm wrong Sym. He's created this excellent piece of
coding, now he's after help and suggestions for it's best use.

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Oct 21, 2014 10:24pm

kraven

Joined Apr 2010 | Status: happy as a pig in shit. | 1,384 Posts

Sym how does it keep the weekly data upto date? does this update automatically?

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Oct 21, 2014 10:50pm

Relativity

Joined Feb 2011 | Status: Crystal Jade Per Day Trader | 389 Posts

I...
Like this.
Really

=)

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Oct 21, 2014 11:21pm

Rahimseven

| Additional Username | Joined May 2011 | 223 Posts

Thanks SYM!!!

This is a thing of beauty!

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Oct 21, 2014 11:27pm

muhitalam

| Commercial Member | Joined Oct 2014 | 86 Posts

Hello sym,
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Thank you for this excellent thread. I like this & I will follow this. As i am new trader I have
one question ; Does this keep weekly data up-to date automatically ? Very much looking
forward to hearing from you

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Oct 21, 2014 11:47pm

pakeha
| Joined Sep 2011 | Status: Member | 317 Posts

I suspect you would need to load the report file each week

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Oct 22, 2014 1:08am

FX-Jay

Joined Sep 2014 | Status: Member | 555 Posts

Great thread!!

So generous of you SYM to be sharing your hard work for others to profit.

COT analysis has been my 'thing' for quite some years now, and it almost never failed me.
Its just the time factor that is always off, but it is the perfect tool for position traders
(which most members on FF aren't).

I totally agree with your views on EU, we're going to see 1.32-1.33 before the end of the
year whether Draghi likes it or not.
Euro small speculators (i.e. retailers) are at all time extreme shorts (these are the real
retail figures to look at btw - not the FF positions tool that is based on 200 traders mostly
on demos). In addition USD commercial +large speculator positioning is also at all time
extremes.

When I said my targets few weeks back, most people laughed. Well few weeks later, we
started hearing about delaying interest rate hikes in the US + possible QE4, coincidence?!
Now less people are laughing I guess

QE or no QE, the trend in the USD is about to change and most probably all the people
laughing now will be on the wrong side of the trade.
Those are the same ones that were calling for $3,000 gold when it was @ $1,900 & 1.9 GU
when it was @ 1.71 & $150 oil when it was @ $105 eventhough the COT was clearly
pointing for the right direction weeks in advance.
So for whoever is calling for EU to be below 1.2 in the near future, I can't but wish you
luck.
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Best,
Jay

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