407019 Two Examples of Compulsive Takers May, 2002 ‘Two Examples of Compulsive Talkers Return to Home Page, Links to More Papers ‘The Inspiration for This Paper My data source contained little information about her. She is a member of Mensa, the organization for people with high I.Q’s. She is also a compulsive talker. I wanted to see what her compulsion looked like. So far, extreme verbalizing has been represented by excessive and prominent Gemini, Mercury rules Gemini, Mercury sponsors speech, communication, writing, and words. It is involved in hearing~the passive/receptive part of speech, So, if mercury’s influence is prominent and excessive in a chart, it sensibly sponsors at least the verbal part of compulsive talking, A friend is--if not compulsive--an excessive talker. In his chart he has two moons conjunct each other and uranus, all in Gemini square his Midheaven. So his Gemini planets are “Angular,” therefore, forefront. He is, usually clever and witty, He has also been called “motor mouth.” Actor Robin Williams has a condition similar to my friend’s condition. Maybe Williams is not “compulsive” (I don’t know). He is known for his repartee, his unusual wit, his capacity for sustained speech, He can be a motor mouth. Before showing the charts, I must make a few comments about this system: (1) In the partial charts shown below, birth planets and their harmonies are inside the circle. Conception planets and their harmonies are outside the circle. Perhaps an easier way to see them is: if they are inside the circle and blue, they are birth planets; if they are not blue, they are birth harmonic planets. If they are outside the circle and red, they are conception planets; if they are not red; then they are conception harmonic planets. (2) For an explanation of the astrology used on this site, go to “About This System’ listed among other papers ‘on the Home Page. For those who do not want to do that, there is this note: this system uses only conjunctions, applying and separating squares, and oppositions. Orbs with lights is 5°; without lights, about 2.5°. Birth planets (including their harmonics) rule only birth houses. Conception planets (including their harmonics) rule only conception houses. ww angolfre.comisatbinatvtalkor hil 48407019 Two Examples of Compulsive Takers We are interested in Williams" harmonic chart for his 7th house. It contains information about his interaction with others. Here it is: Robin Williams Harmonic Chart for His 7th House in %. ay a5) 11--9Pis, ¢12--21 Ati, €2--22Gem, ¢3--12Can bl | Placidus: Vir, b12--27Vir, b2--18Sco, b3--22Sag_ We are primarily interested in the set at 6:30. It contains moon in Gemini conjunct mars, uranus, and pluto. Moon in Gemini already represents a hearty inclination toward the use of words. Adding in the other planets, mars impels it, uranus makes it unusual, and pluto, perhaps, creates a fascination with language. B7 moon (here in Gemini) rules Williams’ B MC in Cancer which is in his conception 3rd house. His career (B MC) will involve communication (B MC in ¢ 3rd house). Conception uranus rules C MC. This set in Gemini therefore influences two Angles. His chart says Williams will be known (two Angles) for his unusual mental and verbal capacity (the Gemini set) and his mind (3rd house). included Williams’ b jupiter in Pisces, and c venuses in Virgo, also part of this set. They suggest benefic outcomes. He will be known for his verbal gymnastics and he will be successful because of them. Neptune’s addition to the set adds more creativity. Likely neptune provides images; uranus tums them on their head and sidewise, making them appear funny. Notice that he, like John Forbes Nash, Jr., has double 3rd/9th house overlaps. The 3rd house contains information about our ordonary mind; the 9th, our higher mind, travel, and other subjects. The double overlap tends to the usurpation of lower mind by the interests of higher mind because they are identities. Isnt it interesting Williams was so good as Mork, the alien from another planet on the Mork and Mindy show? Williams’ two mereuries in Cancer conjunet his B MC also show an individual known (B MC) for his mind (mercury). They account for a certain softness, a kind of “motherly” (Cancer) quality he has. Looked at tropically, Williams chart has birth mercury in Leo conjunct a Leo MC. Doubtless astrologers consider that the source of his mercurial humor. I acknowledge the creative component in Leo, but it tends more to dignity (and pride)--hardly the daft antics displayed by Williams. His birth moon is tropically in Pisces. That ww angolfre.comisabinatvtalkor hil 25,407019 Two Examples of Compulsive Takers is good for imagery, but itis in his 4th, and rules his 9th, not his 10th house, so it has no connection to his career. Nonetheless, these could be made to do the job of explaining Williams” humor. They do not do the job nearly as well as does the Gemini set. The above provides reasons Gemini is prominent in verbosity. Is there another, non-Gemini, way? To answer that, lets take a look at Mensan’s chart: Mensan 5215 ic Chart for Her 7th House Placidus: ¢11-27Aqu, ¢12-8Ari, €2-12Gem, e3-3Can bl 1--26Cap, b12~-IPis, b2—17Tau, b3-9Gem ‘Mensan has four conditions which contribute to her endless verbalizing, They are numbered and discussed in order of influence, from greater to lesser. (1) Asc/mercury/mars conjunct in Aries lighted by moon in Capricorn. (Lights make sets more powerful as well as provide their own sign influence). Since sets on Angles are forefront, with this set Mensan has an impulsive (Aries and mars) “need” (mars and Angular) to talk (mercury). Actually, ¢ saturn at 16 Cancer 44 is also part of this set. It is In ¢ 3rd house. By staying at the Ascendant part of this set-that is, by talking compulsively--Mensan is (unconsciously) avoiding depression. (In the long run it doesn’t work: eventually she has to “face” her 3rd house saturn since we cannot voluntarily drop a planet out of a lighted set, We can influence its expression. The better way to deal with it is to regularly set aside time for quiet and serious reflection, Also noteworthy: mercury co-rules (30 of 41°) c Sth house. Is mis-placed sexual energy a component in her compuision to talk? (2) Moon, mercury, and saturn are conjunct in Aries and Angular (to B MC). This set does not include mars, but Aries supplies an impelling force (mars rules Aries). Satum’s presence could slow it all down. It might also make her speech simpler, or more serious. Mercury rules b 3rd house, so this set has both Angular and 3rd house influence. (3) Jupiter conjunct pluto in Gemini in b 3rd house provides a definite intellectual thrust to Mensan’s condition. But is it verbal? The Gemini planets are lighted by © moon in Virgo--another sign ruled by mercury, Conception moon rules ¢ 3rd house, so both 3rd houses are influenced by this jupiter in Gemini, but no Angles are. Likely this set tends more to study (jupiter in Gemini: \wawangelie.conisdbinahtalkerhin! 35