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Shamsi Tabriz
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About Me
NAME: NASIR SHAMSI LOCATION: MONROE, NEW JERSEY,
UNITED STATES
The Words I Wish I Had written! " While I was a Sophomore in college, I
wrote in my diary: ' I develop my views from the existing pool of knowledge
and I will adopt my views when I learn more. The only permanenet view that
I have is that there is a God. My views are based on the basic fundamental
law of Nature and Physics that I am now aware of. As man learns more about
his environment I will change my theory to accomodate new knowledge.
Religion should be dynamic and change and always advance, not in a state of
stagnation.( Temple Grandin) "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that
ever has."(Margaret Mead) "Success is nothing more than a few simple
disciplines, practiced every day." (Jim Rohn) "Don't be afraid to give your
best to what seemingly are small jobs. Every time you conquer one it makes
you that much stronger. If you do the little jobs well, the big ones tend to
take care of themselves. (Dale Carnegie)
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SATURDAY, OCTOBER 28, 2006

Shamsi Tabriz OUR FAMILY TREE

Shamsi Tabriz SHAMSI FAMILY (My immediate family)’s
Shamsi Tabriz genealogical chart
Shamsi Tabriz
Sayings of Shamsi The genealogical chart is prepared and posted by Syed
Tabriz Nasir Hussain Shamsi son of the late Syed Ahmad
Shams and Rumi Hussain Shamsi s/o Syed Ali Shah, the elder of this
By Nasir Shamsi
Shams-i Tabriz family, buried in Syedan wali (Sialkot).
was...
“Remember the episode of Prophet Ibrahim-his asking
about his lineage ! His prayer was answered and he
was given the
utmost honour of a blessed lineage. “ -Quran
Introductory Note:
Our family descends from Hazrat Shams Tabrizi,
buried in Multan, also known by some as Shams
Sabzwari by reference to his place of birth, Sabzwar,
now in Iran. Son of Syed Salahuddin, a Jafri Syed
(descendent of Imam Jafar Sadiq), Shams uddin
Muhammad Tabrizi spent several years in Tabriz to
acquire spiritual and esoteric knowledge under the
tutelage of two great teachers of Tabriz, Abu Bakr
Salabaf and Baba Kamal Jundi. It was the later with
whom he spent almost 12 years to master the esoteric
sciences which unveiled the mysteries of the hidden
world (Tajalliyat-I Irfan-i Ilahiyya). Shams-I Tabriz,
now about 60 years was instructed by his teacher to
travel to Konya where another Salik awaited him. This
fateful journey led to his legendary meeting with Jalal
uddin Rumi, a well known religious scholar (Mawlana)
who led prayers in the mosque attached to his school
where he taught jurisprudence to his students. This
meeting turned Mowlana upside down. He gave up
teaching and abandoned the company of his disciples.
Since he spent all his time with Shams-i Tabriz, this
led to jealousy among Rumi’s disciples. Upset by their
behavior, Shams left Konya. Distraught and aggrieved,
Rumi lamented his teacher’s departure. When some
one told him Shams-i Tabriz had been seen in
Damascus, he sent his son, Sultan Vald with a letter
entreating him to come back. He returned with Sultan
Vald. The Konyans regretted and asked for
forgiveness. But after a few months they were back to
their hostilities. Shams-i Tabriz cautioned them that if
they did not behave he will leave never to return again.
One night a group of Rumi’s disciples led by his son
Alauddin Chilpi attempted to assault him but Shamsi
Tabriz suddenly disappeared, leaving all assailants
unconscious; each one of them, including Rumi’s son
died for some mysterious sickness within a short
period. Rumi was so displeased that he declined to
attend his funeral. (More information in the following
pages).

--Nasir Shamsi, USA (December 11, 2005)

Our genealogical chart

Syed Ali Shah

Syed Ali Shah had five (5) sons:

Ahmad Hussain Altaf Hussain Manzoor Hussain Ijaz

Hussain Saghir Hussain

1. Ahamad Hussain: his 4 sons, Akhtar hussain, Nasir

Hussain, Athar Hussain (died in infancy), Athar
Hussain Junior (died at 16)
(i) Akhtar Hussain’s three sons: Zahid Abbas, Nayyar
Abbas, Ali Abbas. Zahid Abbas’s 4 sons. Ammar
Abbas, Shoaib Abbas, Owais Abbas, Zuhair Abbas.
Nayyar Abbas (USA)’s 2 sons: Ali Hamza and Ali
Shan-e Ahmad

(ii) Nasir Hussain (USA)’s three sons : Ali Imran, Ali

Salman, Ali Adnan, and daughter, Saima Batool. Ali
Shamsi’s daughter, Lila Shamsi, Adnan has one son,
Irteza Raza. Salman has a son, Arsalan Ahmad and
daughter Sareen Fatima.

2. Altaf Hussain (S/o Ali Shah)’s 4 sons:

(i) Yawar Hussain (UK)’s 2 sons: Farukh Abbas and
Moazam Abbas and two daughters, Taseer Zahra and
Toqeer Zahra
Farukh Abbas has one son Haider Abbas and three
daughters, Saira, Aliya, Masuma). Moazzam Abbas has
3 sons, Hashim Abbas, Zain Abbas, Kamran Abbas
(ii) Rahat Hussain (UK)’s 2 sons : Aun Ali,
Muhammad Abbas
(iii) Zahid Hussain has 2 sons: Imran Haider and Bilal
Haider. Imran Haider (China) has a daughter
Manahal.
(iv) Shahid Hussain
3. Manzur Hussain’s 4 sons:
(i) Tahir Hussain’s one daughter: Tatheer Zahra (UK)
(ii)Liaqat Hussain’s 2 sons: Muhammad Ali,
Muhammad Azfar Abbas,
(iii) Akhlaq Hussain’s 2 sons: Muhammad Mughees
Hassan, Haseeb Hassan
(iv) Waqar Hussain’s 2 sons: Muqil Abbas, Adeel
Abbas
4. Ijaz Hussain’s 3 sons: (i) Anwar Hussain (Bahrain)’s
2 sons: Ali Raza (USA), Abbas Raza (Canada)
(ii) Ansar Hussain’s 2 sons: Munil Abbas, Zain Abbas
(iii) Iftikhar Hussain (USA). He has a son, Awwab
Haider and daughter Nina Iftikhar.
5. Saghir Hussain’s 3 sons: Tanvir Abbas, Zaheer
Abbas, Mazhar Abbas (their children’s names will be
posted)

B. Going backward from my grandfather, Syed Ali

Shah, our family is traced back to Prophet Muhammad
(s) and Prophet Ibrahim (a) as follows:

Syed Ali Shah (our grandfather)

Nazar Ali
Inayat Ali
Daulat Ali
Nathay Shah
Latif Shah
Amir Ali
Gul Muhammad
Shah Muhammad
Mehr Ali
Murad Shah
Talib Ali Shah
Rasikh-uddin
Muhammad Saleh
Rukan-uddin
Shahab-uddin
Nasir-uddin (see bio note)

Shams-uddin Muhamad Tabrizi (D. 675

AH/1276AD In Multan)-- Shams-i Tabriz--the Mentor
and teacher of Jalal uddin Rumi. He had two sons:
Nasir uddin (Saman Burj Lahore Royal Fort) and Ala
uddin (Narhar Sharif, Jaipur, India).
(See bio notes)

Salahuddin Muhammad (D. 664 AH):

He was a pious person of great knowledge. He coached
his son in early years, later asked his brother Abdul
Hadi, who excelled in the exegesis of Quran,
tradition,jurisprudence and philosophy, to teach
him.By age 12, when Shamsuddin became self
sufficient in Islamic sciences, Abdul Hadi
accompanied him to Tabriz, a center of higher
learning at the time, to further enhance his knowledge.

Syed Ali Islam-uddin ( while his father Abdul

Mumin, as ruler of Morocco and Spain, appointed the
other four sons as governors of various provinces,Syed
Ali asked to be excused; he was allowed by his father
to embark instead on the spiritual path, devoting his
life to the dissemination of Islam through preaching.

Abdul Mumin
(d. 550 AD)--he was founder of the Al-Muwahhid (Al-
Mohads) dynasty of rulers who ruled over Spain and
Morocco (1120- 1268 AD). Mohammed Ibn Tumart, a
Barbar reformer from Morocco and a man of
compelling personality and wisdom, met Abdul
Mumin, young and handsome man with an equally
commanding personality, at Makkah during the Hajj.
He took him to Morocco. Both joined hands and were
able to unite the tribes of the Atlas Mountains. Abdul
Mumin proved to be a great general and helped oust
the Almoravids. On Ibn Tumart's death, he became the
ruler and founder of the al-mowahhidin(al-mohads).
Al-mohads ruled Morocco and Spain in the 12th and
13th centuries until their fierce fights to halt the
Crusaders weakened them and they lost power to
Merinid dynasty, which took Marrakech in 1269.

Ali Khalid-uddin
Muhammad Muhib- uddin

Syed Mahmud Sabzwari ( D. 509 AH in Lahore).

He came to Lahore as commander of Masud Ghazni’s
army and is buried near Anarkali, in Nila Gunbad,
Lahore. He gave his life alongwith his five sons during
a battle, while defending Lahore.

Syed Muhammad (aka Masoom Shah) (D. 485 in

Sabzwar); ( he was the first among our ancestors to
move to Sabzwar (now in Iran, near the border of
Turkey).
Hashim Ali (D. 458AH in Cairo)
Ahmad Hadi (D.448 in Yeman)
Muntazir Billah (D. 425 AH in Yeman. (Sakhi La’l
Shahbaz Qalandar Marwandi of Sehwan Sharif is
descendent of his brother Muntakhab Billah)

Abdul Majid
Ghalib-uddin (D. 315 AH, he moved with his family to
Egypt)
Muhammad Mansur Khaqani:

Ismail Sani (D. 220 A.H. He did not agree with his
father's Ismaili aqeeda and maintained the purity of
Ithna ashari aqeedah. He is thus credited for the
continuation of the unadulterated and pure Ithna
Ashari aqeeda(belief) till this day among his
decendents through his son, Muhammad Mansoor
Khaqani (may Allah bless them both).

Muhammad Oraizi He was born in Oraiz, a town 4

miles from Madina), the founder and precursor of
present day Ismailis (sixer Shias, he left Oraiaz and
moved to Mohammad Abad, near Ra’y (now in Iran).

Ismail (he died in Imam Jafar Sadiq’slife) and was

claimed as Imam by his son, Muhammad Oraizi (the
precursor of the present day Bohras)to be the
Imam,instead of Musa Kazim, the 7th Imam of Ithna
asahri Shias. Later however his decendents split into
Nazari Ismailis (the followers of Agha Khan) and
Bohras (Musta'ali).

Imam Jafar Sadiq (a) - 6th Imam

Imam Muhammad Baqir - 5th Imam
Imam Ali Zainul Abidin - 4th Imam
Imam Hussain - 3rd Imam
Imam Ali (a) -1st Imam and Fatima d/o the Prophet
Muhammad (s)
Abu Talib (Prophet’s uncle)
Abdul Mottalib (Prophet’s grandfather)
Hashim
Abdu Manaf
Qosayy
Kelab
Morra
Ka’b
Loay
Ghalib
Fihr (Qoreish)
Malik
Nazr
Kin’ana
Khozaima
Madrekah
Ilyas
Mazr
Nizar
Sa’ad
Adnan
Uban
Ood
Al-yassa
Al-Yamees’
Soloman
Hem’l
Bine’t
Qeda’r
Ismail (Prophet Ishmael)
Ibrahim (Prophet Abraham; he had two sins, Ishmail
and Ishaq)

Biographical Notes about our prominent

elders:
Shams-uddin Muhamad Tabrizi
(D. 675 AH In Multan)-- Shams-i Tabriz--the Mentor
and teacher of Jalal uddin Rumi. He had two sons:
Nasir uddin (Saman Burj Lahore Royal Fort) and Ala
uddin Ahmad Shakr (Narrhar Sharif, Jaipur, India).
The descendents of Nasir uddin largely inhabit west
Punjab Districts, Hazara, Murree and Azad Kashmir
area in Pakistan. Many of them inhabiting Gurdaspur,
Ludhiana, Hoshiarpur, Patiala and Firozepur Districts
of India migrated to Pakistan in 1947. There are some
living in Pirana, Palanpur, Dholka and Ahmadabad in
Gujrat(India); they are largely the descendents of
Imam Shah son of Hassan Kabiruddin. Imam Shah (
Imam uddin ) who fell into the hands of an Ismaili
Da’i, Sadr Din. ( see my note on how Ismaili da’i Sadr
Din manoeuvred to seize control of the Gujrati
disciples of the Shamsis of Ucch).

The descendents of Alauddin Ahmad Shakr, the

younger son of Shams-i Tabriz, live in Narhar ( Jaipur
), Karrah ( Ilahabad ) and Fatehpur Distt., in India,
and in Lahore, Gujranwala, Sialkot and Sargotha, in
Pakistan.
...................................................................
Syed Nasir uddin
(588-682 AH)
The elder son of Shamsi Tabriz, Nasir uddin had two
sons: Kamal uddin and Shahab uddin. He was born in
Sabzwar. He came to Multan to join his father. A
renowned scholar and a man of great piety, he
occupied position of a Judge (Qazi al-Qazat) in
Lahore, during the rule of Muhammad Sultan (aka
Molaqqab Khan Shaheed ). He died in 682 and was
buried inside the Shahi Qila (Royal Fort)Lahore, in the
basement of Samun Burj (across from Sheesh Mahal).
The shrine went out from the public eye after it was
closed down and covered under a pavement during the
rule of the Sikhs on Lahore. I had read about this in
Taju ul Mulk's book, "Gulzar-i Shams". I went to Shahi
Qila several times during my college studies in
Government College, Lahore (1955-59). Every time I
asked about the shrine, but without any clue.I was told
there was no grave or shrine in or around the Samun
Burj. So I came back disappointed every time,.
However on a subsequent visit to the Shahi Qila in
1959, accompanied by my friend Mahmud Nusrat-now
a barrister in London, England-we were told by the
clerk at the Fort gate that
recently a grave had been discovered under the Samun
Burj; we were told that a person Sultam Mahmud who
worked in a leather goods shop in the Anarkali Bazar
had found out the grave. Nusrat and I paid a visit to
the newly discovered garve. It was on the lower level
under the Samun Burj. A path leading to the grave on
the lower level had been discovered through removal
of the slabs used by the sikhs during their rule. We
visited this gentleman in the Anarkali the following
day. Sultan told us that after visiting Shahi Qila with a
cousin, he saw a “buzurg” in dream, pointing him to a
place which he said led to his grave under the Samun
Burj and that he had seen himself digging out the
steps going down to the mazar. He saw the same
dream on two consecutive nights and decided to go
back to the place with his cousin. They tool some
digging tools in a bag and succeeded in digging the
spot he had seen in the dream. After they were able to
remove a big slab, they discovered an entry with stone
steps leading to down below. There in the lower hall,
exactly below the Samun Burj, there was a grave in the
center of the mausoleum (Samun Burj). They were
apprehended at that point. But when they narrated
exactly what had motivated them to this "illegal
excavation", they were released and the Fort
Superintendent also permitted Sultan Mahmud to
arrange for eletric fittings to instal electric fittings in
the mazar for light. He was also permitted to post a
sign which read: “ is jagah aik
bazurg ka mazar mila hai “. A few months later I,
accompanied by my cousin, Anwaar Hussain Shamsi,
called on Waliullah Khan, the Superintendent of the
Archives Deptt at the Shahi Qila. We showed him the
written evidence to prove that it was the mazar of Syed
Nasir uddin and requested that the current sign be
replaced by a plate with his name. He did not agree to
our request because he did not want this place to
attract vistors. I have learnt that the place is now
locked up and nobody can visit the mausoleum. I hope
the justice is done some day to restore the true identity
of an important historical figure.

Syed Shahab-uddin
Born at Sabzwar. Died in 750 AH at Tum Batool, Distt
Hazara. He had 7 sons, including Rukn uddin ( our
ancestor) and Haji Sadar uddin--father of Kabir uddin
Hassan ((aka Hassan Darya).) buried in Uch. Please
read our Note on an account of the Ismaili Da’i, named
Sadar Din. He was sent to the Shamsis in Uch, by the
Ismaili leader (Imam) Islam Shah hiding in Egypt,
after the destruction of the Ismaili stronghold in the
hills of Almut. His mission was to establish an
organized collection system, to collect Khums (20%
levy on yearly savings, payable to the descendents of
the Prophet) from the Hindus who had been converted
in Gujrat and Kathiawar area in big numbers, first by
Shams-i Tabriz and later by his descendents, Haji
Sadaruddin and Kabir uddin Hassan. It is important
to distinguish between Sayed Haji Sadaruddin
(Shamsi) and the Isamili Da’i, Sadr Din. The Ismaili
Sadar Din arrived at Uch at a time when the Shamsi
Syeds were devastated by the sudden death of their
father Kabir uddin Hassan and were unable to decide
regarding who from the 18 siblings would succeed
their most eminent father, who was the undeniable
spiritual Chief (Pir) of the Kojas of Gujrat and
Kathiawar. Cunning and sharp witted Sadar Din, a
man in advanced years with a charismatic look,
persuaded the aggrieved brother to accept him as their
guardian (until they would decide about the
succession) because after all, he argued, he
represented the “ Jafri Prince “ in exile after the fall of
the Fatimids in Egypt and Alamut. We don’t know
what he promised the gullible Syeds, they accepted his
tutelage. Having become an heir apparent of the
deceased leader, Sadr Din had now access to the
followers and disciples of the Shamsis in Uch. Having
installed himself successfully in Sindh, he embarked
on a journey to Gujrat with one of the Shamsi
Brothers, Imam uddin (aka Imam Shah). Imam
Shah (d.926/1520)was more familiar with the Shamsi
murids in Gujrat and Kathiawar, since he had
frequently accompanied his father and grand father
when they visited their followers in Gujrat and
beyond. Imam Shah was quite enamored of the saintly
looking new relative, an emissary of the Prince in
Egypt. There is whole legend surrounding this Imam
Shah available in the Ismaili books. He is said to have
developed differences with his brothers as well as the
Shamsi followers of his father in Sind. He seems to
have pressed his claim to succeed his father on his
death which was turned down. Imam Shah later gave
an account of this incident in
“ Jannatpuri “, a long religious hymn reported to
have been recorded by him in Gujrati and preserved
by his followers in Gujrat. A lot was written about him
by the writers sponsored by Agha Khan 1, and later in
the books and articles published by the Institute of
Ismaili Studies, London, England. Why so much
emphasis on Imam Shah ? It is because he is the key to
Ismailis finding a new lease of life in India, after
destruction of Alamut by the Mongols. But for Imam
Shah, they would not have been able to re-surface in
India, after they were been eliminated first by
Mahmud Ghazni from Multan and Sindh, later by
Razia Sultana when they attacked and killed many
Muslims at the Jamia Masjid, Delhi. Aided and
abetted by Imam Shah, who abandoned his brothers in
the hope of being named the Imam Islam Shah’s
vicegerent in India, Sadar Din slowly took control of a
large number of the disciples of Shamsi sadat in Gujrat
and kathiawar. He even faked himself as Haji Sadr
uddin (the deceased father of Kabir uddin Hassan who
was well known in Gujrat). Imam Shah took him to
one of the richest and influential Thakars of Gujrat,
who had accepted Islam through his grand father,
Syed Haji Sadar uddin. Sadr Din used his influence
to reach out to other affluent Thakars and the existing
converts. Intoxicated with his initial success, he came
up with a novel idea. The best way, he thought, to
mentally and spiritually take control of the psyche of
these people was to present to them a mix of Hindu
and Islamic teachings. Vishnu, he noticed, was at the
center of the Hindu religion in Gujrat; every thing
revolved around the myth of Vishnu (the Hindu God)
and his Das Avatar (his ten incarnations). The cycle of
life was essentially linked with these incarnations
(avatar). Nine avatar had manifested themselves. The
10th avatar Vishnu was to come; he was the awaited
autar. Sadr Din had them believe that the 10th avatar
had already come and that was Imam Ali and that he
was represented by the living Imam, Islam Shah in
Khorasan. It was mandatory on each follower to every
year send to him ‘ dasond ‘ (one twelveth of yearly
savings), for for the forgiveness of sins and salvation.
He called his new faith system ‘ Satpanth ‘ (true path)
—a mix of Hinduism and Islam. This speeded up the
conversions in and around Gujrat. Hindus in large
numbers started accepting Satpanth path. The
revenues of the new Pir became phenomenal. Sadr Din
devised a method to regularly send the collections to
the Imam in Cairo, adding greatly to his personal
wealth.
Sadr Din had Gujrati hymns and songs (called Ginan )
written in Gujrati, singing praises of Ali and Pir,
Shams-i Tabriz. According to the Sind Gazeteer
(1904), Sadr Din took help from a Brahman Scholar in
writing Ginans. (Aab-i Kosar, Sheikh Mohammad
Ikram, Page 347. Sadr Din persuaded Syed Imam
uddin (called Imam Shah by the Satpanth followers) to
break away from his brothers. Differences developed
however between the two, apparently on the issue of
collection of dasonth for the Imam and due to natural
rivalry. Imam uddin moved to Pirana near
Ahmadabad but continued preaching the Satpanth
teachings. (See The Sect of Imam Shah of Gujrat by
the Russian scholar Walter Ivanow, and my separate
article, “ How Shamsis lost their hold on Gujrat to the
antics of an Ismaili Dai “ ). Imam Shah is buried in
Pirana (10 miles from from Ahmadabad. Imam Shah
is said to have written many ginans which are recited
by the Ismailis, but they are reported to have been
corrupted with additions and deletions, to force
Ismaiali beliefs on him, although according to his
descendents he had distanced himself from Ismaiali
beliefs. Imam Shah had four sons, viz. Syed Alam
Shah, Syed Ali Shah, Syed Bakir Shah and Syed Nur
Muhammad Shah, and a daughter called Shams
Khatoon. Syed Nur Muhammad, later called Nar
Muhammad became his successor in Gujrat and led
his Murids away from the Ismailis.
Imam Shah's Shrine in Pirana has in the news on
acccount of the legal dispute between the descendents
of Imam Shah and the Hindu custodians, called Kakas,
both claiming ownership of the shrine and the
properties around the shrine. The visitors to the shrine
say that the shrine contains both the Muslim as well as
Hindu relics. At the entrance of the shrine, you meet
both the the Hindu Kakas and Syed descendents. That
is what happens to those who lose touch with their
roots. Imam Shah’s descendents are paying today for
his cutting his ties with his family in Uch. Iqbal had
rightly said in one of his poems: The wave has an
identity so long it is in the ocean;outside it is nothing (
Mauj hai darya mein, bairun-i darya kuch naheen).

posted by Nasir Shamsi | 10:50 AM

3 Comments:

Ashfan said...
I just wanted to inform the author of an inaccuracy
in this blog. It maintains that the precursors to the
Aga Khani (Nizari) Ismailis and Bohra Ismailis are
different (Muhammad Oraizi vs. Ali Oraizi).
However, in actuality, Muhammad Oraizi is
precursor to both Bohra and Aga Khani (Nizari)
Ismailis. Nizari Ismailis know him as Mawlana
Muhammad bin Ismail, making it quite clear that it
is not Ali Oraizi who was their imam. Furthermore,
the split between the Bohra and Nizari Ismailis
occurred far later in history, at the time of the
Fatimid Empire in Egypt, over a succession between
the ruler al-Mustansir bi'llah, between his two sons
Nizar and al-Mustali. Nizari Ismaili trace leadership
to Nizar, while Bohras trace it to al-Mustali. All
have a shared heritage in Muhammad Oraizi, and
Jafar as-Sadiq, in your family tree.
8:59 PM

Ali said...
I am also a Shamsi Syed, and direct decsendant of
Syed Nasir Ud Din. It's absolutely fantasitc to hear
that Agha Syed Nasir Uu Din Badshah is burried in
Shahi Qila, and we must mobilize all Shamsi's all
accross Pakistan to further investigate it.

One thing, I would like clarify, as per our family

history, Syed Shah Shams Sarkar of Multan, our
Great Great Grand Father, is actualy Shah Shams
Sabzwari, instead of Tabrezi.

Thanks & Regards

Syed Ali Jafri (Shamsi)
aliagha.jafri@gmail.com
7:15 AM

Shakil Pirzada said...

As-salaamoalaykum, I am Saiyed Sahkil Pirzda
from Gujarat- India!

I am direct decsendant of Saiyed Pir Hasan

Kabiruddin Kufra shikan (reh.) son of Saiyed Haji
Sadruddin (reh) of Uch sharif!

In Gujart,mainly two Hindu communities had

accepted Islam in the hands of Saiyed Shamsuddin
(reh.) and/or his decsendants; they were Lohan/
Thakkar & Patel.

Lohana/Thakkar converts were/are called Khoja,

while Patel converts were/are called Momin.

After that Khojas went with Sadardin & after that

with Agha khan.

While most of Momins remained with decsendants

of Saiyed Pir Hasan Kabiruddin Kufra shikan (reh.)
son of Saiyed Haji Sadruddin (reh) of Uch sharif!
Even today there are more than 100s of thousand
Momins who are Murid of my fahter & my father's
cousin!

Our family stays in Ahmedabad (Gujarat-India) &

Wankaner (Kathiawar-Gujarat-India).

It realy feels great to know this much about my/our

family history, looking forward for more!

Anyways, thanks a lot!

Regards!

Saiyed Shakil Pirzada

skpirzada@gmail.com
http://skpirzada.blogspot.com/
7:25 PM

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