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Posted by EditorDavid on Saturday October 19, 2019 @03:34PM from the OS-wars dept.
Forbes senior contributor Jason Evangelho dedicated a whole

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Sync [for system settings] is a killer, forward-thinking feature
that every Linux distro needs to adopt. Nevermind that its
slide-out control center resembles something sexy and
sensible straight out of the future. But looking toward 2020,
Deepin is poised to be absolutely stunning.

This is without question the most beautiful desktop


environment I've ever laid eyes on... For me, the UX is more
intuitive and more enjoyable than macOS and Windows 10.
And fortunately, a quick setting can also transform Deepin to
resemble the traditional Windows or macOS desktop
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installer is a breath of fresh air.

But let's take a peek at what's coming next. This week, the
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November's expected Deepin v20 beta release, but the Deepin
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I see (Score:4, Funny)
by nospam007 ( 722110 ) * on Saturday October 19, 2019
@03:34PM (#59325476)
IOW 2020 will be the year of Linux on the desktop.
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Re: (Score:2)
by outlander ( 140799 )
Just like every year since like 2000....

Well if you mean Linux on the Windows Desktop ...


(Score:2)
by drnb ( 2434720 )
IOW 2020 will be the year of Linux on the desktop.
Well if you mean Linux on the Windows Desktop via
Microsoft's Windows Subsystem for Linux. ;-)

Re: (Score:2)
by AHuxley ( 892839 )
Get that GPU support as good as Windows 10.
Get color support for video and image work system wide
as good as OS X...

Re: (Score:2)
by Zero__Kelvin ( 151819 )
I know, right? Forbes magazine runs this same article
every year. Nothing is changing. Everybody knows
Windows is great and telemetry and giving Microsoft
control over your computer and your data is the only way
to go. It's not like people in their twenties grew up using
computers and are more comfortable with technology.
People still just use one platform because the whole tech
thing is new to them and they have no idea there are other
options.

Re: (Score:2)
by F.Ultra ( 1673484 )
Why are all the "power users" on Slashdot always image
editors? Surely IT cannot be comprised to 100% of people
that run Photoshop all day long?

Re: I see (Score:4, Informative)


by dwywit ( 1109409 ) on Saturday October 19, 2019
@05:14PM (#59325778)
There's more to the Creative Cloud suite than PS
InDesign - desktop publishing
Premiere Pro - video editing
After Effects - digital special FX
Audition - audio editing

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Illustrator - vector imaging


Dreamweaver - web design
And more. "But there are open-source versions of all of
those". None of the open-source "solutions" work nearly as
well, nor is it an integrated suite.
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Re: Dreamweaver (Score:2)


by davebarnes ( 158106 )
Dreamweaver sucks.
Serious web developers do not use it.

Re: I see (Score:4, Informative)


by ikhider ( 2837593 ) on Saturday October 19, 2019
@07:31PM (#59326074)
You are absolutely correct sir. Inkscape is not a
professional-grade vector editor. No pro in her right mind
would use it: https://logosbynick.com/profes...
[logosbynick.com] Linux Audio cannot be used by pro's
for audio work: https://www.soundonsound.com/t...
[soundonsound.com] and https://cdm.link/2009/08/linux...
[cdm.link] PERISH THE THOUGHT! I mean, Linux does
not even have proper eq's for sound production:
http://www.admiralbumblebee.co...
[admiralbumblebee.com] and you are right, Linux does not
have text editors for coding and such:
https://sachachua.com/blog/ [sachachua.com] Video
editing and 3D work on Linux and opensource?
Impossible! https://www.blender.org/about/... [blender.org]
and professional work flow for photography on Linux?
https://lessons.rileybrandt.co... [rileybrandt.com] and
https://pixls.us/ [pixls.us] NEVER!!!! Like they taught me
in school, it starts with Adobe and ends with Adobe.
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Re: (Score:2)
by im_thatoneguy ( 819432 )
Simply finding applications that claim to be a video editor
is very different from being a professional video editing
application.
There are Free as in Beer Linux video editing applications
that pros do use: Davinci Resolve. But Blender is not a

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suitable professional video editing application. Load up


some Alexa footage, oh what's that you can't? How about
Red? Nope? Uhh... Sony? No not that either? So it's a
video editor that can't load videos? Ha!

Re: (Score:2, Informative)


by Anonymous Coward
Stop Using the Adobe Suite and Use These Programs
Instead https://web.archive.org/web/20... [archive.org]
IF YOU DRAW OR DESIGN
Instead of PHOTOSHOP, try GIMP, KRITA, FIRE
ALPACA, AUTODESK SKETCHBOOK, or MEDIBANG
PAINT
Instead of LIGHTROOM, try PAINT DOT NET
Instead of ILLUSTRATOR, try INKSCAPE
Instead of INDESIGN, try CANVA or SCRIBUS
IF YOU MAKE PICTURES MOVE
Instead of PREMIERE, try DAVINCI RESOLVE or
HITFILM EXPRESS
Instead of ANIMATE/FLASH, try OPENTOONZ,
PLASTIC ANIMATION PAPER, EASYTOON, or
BLENDER
Inste

Re: (Score:2)
by Zero__Kelvin ( 151819 )
"It could very well be an IT guy who supports a graphics
department that needs Adobe CC and the rest of a typical
office that needs Microsoft Office."
In this case you have Windows machines for those few
people in the company that must have it and let everyone
else use a decent OS. Nobody has a need for Office
anymore, and making everyone use shit because a small
subset of your company is locked in is like making every
driver in a fleet of cabs drive a van with foot controls to
steer just because a few of th

Re: I see (Score:2)


by Puls4r ( 724907 )
Wow. This is like the return of the "no one needs a pickup
truck" argument. Just because you don't need Office,
doesn't mean that it isn't deeply engrained into many
corporate cultures. When 90 percent of your workforce
knows and uses a particular product, you don't just up and
decide they are all changing to some incrementally better
other product because the IT guy likes it better.

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Photoshop (Score:2)
by p51d007 ( 656414 )
If it doesn't run Photoshop without having a VM or other
nonsense, forget it. I depend too much on photoshop, and,
no, I'm not going to learn something else. NOW GET OFF
MY LAWN! ;)

Re: (Score:3)
by Zero__Kelvin ( 151819 )
Containers and VMs are not "nonsense" in 2019. Your
belief that technology is still stuck in the 1990s is however.

Re: I see (Score:2)


by zkiwi34 ( 974563 )
Software branding has always been bollocks.
It is, and always has been simply, âoeDoes it do [insert list
of requirements here]?â
If a piece of software hits enough of those, itâ(TM)s fit for
purpose, otherwise not.

Re: (Score:2)
by Yaztromo ( 655250 )
The full screen app view is a 100% rip-off of macOS's
Launchpad.

Re: I see (Score:2)


by ArmoredDragon ( 3450605 )
But who has root access, the computer's owner, or the
communist party?
Though on second thought, I've seen too many Asian
system admins use chmod 777 as a first troubleshooting
step when working on vendor supplied equipment, and
then leave it that way when they're done. I somehow doubt
non IT people will know any better.

Re: (Score:2)
by drnb ( 2434720 )
Teaser video is embarrassing. It looks exactly like
Windows 10 and Android got ripped off, rounded edges,
and colored blue-violet. There is nothing special here.
You are racist and just don't understand the subtleties of
mainland design. :-)

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Steve jobs called (Score:2)


by goombah99 ( 560566 )
Wants his reality distortion field back.

Re: (Score:2)
by thegreatbob ( 693104 )
Hey now, there's enough delusion to go around.

Re:Steve jobs called (Score:4, Insightful)


by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Saturday October 19,
2019 @04:32PM (#59325656)
I just wasted a couple minutes on the article and part of the
“installer is a breath of fresh air” video, and I’ve gotta
say... is the author still using Windows 95? Cuz I’m not
seeing what it is the author thinks is so amazing. The
installer seems to mimic the macOS installer (except it
uses a blurry background image), and the app launcher
looks like the stupid macOS Launchpad, which has been
around for more than a decade (and no one actually uses
because iOS is a bad paradigm for a computer). The
desktop itself looks like a poor ripoff of Windows 7.
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Re: (Score:2)
by im_thatoneguy ( 819432 )
Yeah, it looks like a random hodgepodge of Windows 8,
Windows 10, Windows Vista and OSX with a healthy dash
of Android.
It's got Windows 8's giant wall of icons launcher... except
without the really cool and useful bits that LiveTiles
have/had like inbox summaries, calendar events, music
controls, groups or alphabetical groupings.
Its start menu is essentially Windows Vista's quick
launch... but no All-Programs slide out.
The launcher is clearly OSX.
The right panel\Notifications pane is clearly Windows 10.
The

WOW! China has shown it cares about GNU licensing!


(Score:2)
by cygnusvis ( 6168614 )
China will totally respect the GNU mindset and

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opensource licensing. There is no way they would use


open source code in a bad way. They would never do
illegal things.

Re: (Score:3, Informative)


by iggymanz ( 596061 )
Do you have some evidence they don't, or are you talking
out of your ass? A few U.S. and European companies have
been caught violating the GPL though in the last 20 years...

Re: (Score:3)
by CaptainLugnuts ( 2594663 )
Check out Allwinner. Have they ever released their code?

Re:WOW! China has shown it cares about GNU licensi


(Score:4, Informative)
by iggymanz ( 596061 ) on Saturday October 19, 2019
@04:07PM (#59325578)
You're talking about that issue in 2015? they have released
source code since then, don't know if ALL done since
some parts were mixed in proprietary code they licensed.
Meanwhile we have Cisco, VMware, d-link, fortinet,
AMV, Fantec, etc. in the West.
Saying "the chinese" is silly. as if they were the big
offenders on planet earth as a nation.
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Re: (Score:2)
by MattMann ( 102516 )
but nobody here said "the chinese". you should even stop
thinking "the chinese".

Re: (Score:2)
by h33t l4x0r ( 4107715 )
At least he didn't say "orientals"

Re: (Score:2)
by Cipheron ( 4934805 )
You should stop thinking "the Chinese" according to GP.
Because that's plural, which implies China is made up of

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separate people. The correct newspeak is "China",


singular, acts and thinks a specific thing.

Re: (Score:2)
by drinkypoo ( 153816 )
Check out Allwinner. Have they ever released their code?
kind of [linux-sunxi.org], A10, A20, and A64 are finally
fairly well-supported.

Re: (Score:2)
by Computershack ( 1143409 )
How can we expect a Chinese company to respect a GNU
IP when it regularly steals IP from Korean companies.
Remind me again how many popular apps and widgets for
iOS Apple has stolen over the years feeling so entitled to
do so they've not even had the decency to do more than a
minor altercation of the icon from the original for said
stolen software?

Re: WOW! China has shown it cares about GNU licens


(Score:2)
by KixWooder ( 5232441 )
I'm quite alright with ideas and designs being co-opted by
other companies. It should be encouraged, even. There are
enough good ideas to go around.

Re: (Score:3)
by Ryzilynt ( 3492885 )
How can we expect a Chinese company to respect a GNU
IP when it regularly steals IP from Korean companies.
Remind me again how many popular apps and widgets for
iOS Apple has stolen over the years feeling so entitled to
do so they've not even had the decency to do more than a
minor altercation of the icon from the original for said
stolen software?
Many times they buy them. You know the voice assistant
Siri? Siri was originally an app for IOS. Apple like it so
much they bought it and incorporated it into the IOS.
Found an old phone a while back that had the original Siri
app still installed.

Yes but but (Score:5, Insightful)


by stevegee58 ( 1179505 ) on Saturday October 19, 2019
@03:40PM (#59325498) Journal

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It's Chinese so I can't use it


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Re: (Score:2)
by PolygamousRanchKid ( 1290638 )
It's Chinese so I can't use it
It's Chinese so it uses you.

Re: (Score:2)
by mschaffer ( 97223 )
I thought that's what the Russian distros did.

Re: (Score:2)
by Lije Baley ( 88936 )
No matter which country is spying on you, a tin foil hat
protects just the same.

Re: (Score:2)
by markdavis ( 642305 )
>"It's Chinese so I can't use it"
If it were like Red Flag Linux, I would agree. But this is
different. It is not a state-sponsored project. And, much
more importantly, it is OPEN SOURCE. If you like the
desktop environment, it will probably be available for any
distro, eventually (Fedora, Mageia, Ubuntu, Mint, SuSe,
etc).

Re: (Score:2)
by Calydor ( 739835 )
Open source, yes. But let's be completely honest here, how
large is the source for a full OS? Are YOU going to read
all of it? Are you going to put together a team of trusted
coders to read all of it? Is ANYONE going to read every
single line to make sure there isn't a root level spykit in it?

Re: (Score:3)
by markdavis ( 642305 )
But let's be completely honest here, how large is the source
for a full OS?"
True, although I was more targeting just the desktop-
which is presumably the only thing of differential value
compared to other distros (which are already reliable,

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secure, flexible). And if it really is a healthy open-source


desktop, then people from all over will examine and
contribute to it. If it were not healthy, I would advise
against it.
My example was valid, if for the whole OS- Red Flag
contained binary-only blobs and/or

Re: (Score:2)
by GeekBoy ( 10877 )
It doesn't matter what the distribution is. If it's coming
from China, the company will be compelled to assist the
Chinese intelligence service in any way that intelligence
service deems necessary.
https://qz.com/1016531/what-yo... [qz.com]
The law is so broad and general, the Chinese Gov't can
basically interpret it any way it wants to.

Re: (Score:2)
by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )
It's available in English, as you can see from the links in
the summary.

Stop the madness! (Score:5, Interesting)


by quonset ( 4839537 ) on Saturday October 19, 2019
@03:50PM (#59325524)
A slide out control center? This is supposed to be better
than Mac or Windows? Has the writer never used a Mac or
Windows machine recently? They are nothing but slide
outs or animations or pop ups of some sort. Nothing is ever
select > appear. It's all, "Look at me! Look at me! I'm
flying into view!".
Every single day I have to use Windows 10 and every
single day I have to wait for something to appear or there's
some sort of pop up window/hint/whatever interfering in
my work. I don't want a window to pop up if I accidentally
move my cursor over one of the open windows on my task
bar, I don't want screens I'm trying to find information on
to swing into view or slide out of my way if I accidentally
move my cursor over an edge.
I keep hearing how Linux is, supposedly, about getting
things done. Instead, I keep seeing distros trying to
emulate the worst of the OSes it's trying to replace.
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Re: (Score:2)
by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )
Actually the slide out control centre proves that it's going
to be shit, like all desktops. Seriously, they all suck.
Look at that slide out for a moment. The thing on it are not
quick settings you need instant access to. Scaling? Because
I change my monitor that often.
Watching the video it's got a hybrid start menu and app
tray, the worst of both worlds. Apps are sorted into
categories which means they haven't figured out how to
use tags yet.
No sign of a decent file manager either.

Re: (Score:2)
by jwdb ( 526327 )
I agree with you, and for me it got to the point that the
desktop switching sliding animation in OS X was causing
me eye strain. At least, I think it was that, and my eyes
have felt better ever since I disabled it.
I'd have to look up exactly where, but there's a setting deep
somewhere in OS X, possibly somewhere under
accessibility, that lets you disable many of the animations.
Highly recommended if this bothers you like it did me.

"Deepin" (Score:5, Funny)


by DogDude ( 805747 ) on Saturday October 19, 2019
@03:52PM (#59325532)
I assume it means that the Chinese government (and
chinese corporations) have spyware built "Deepin" the
OS?
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by bogaboga ( 793279 )
I assume it means that the Chinese government (and
chinese corporations) have spyware built "Deepin" the
OS?
You mean like the back doors within CISCO equipment;
that enabled the NSA to spy for years? [engadget.com]

Re: (Score:2)
by drinkypoo ( 153816 )
You mean like the back doors within CISCO equipment;
that enabled the NSA to spy for years?

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Sure, just like that.


Would you run Cisco Linux?
No?
Me neither.

Re: (Score:2, Funny)


by geek ( 5680 )
It means Winnie the Pooh is balls "deepin" your ass

"Windows" (Score:2)
by Roger W Moore ( 538166 )
...just like "Windows" that allow the US government to see
into what you are doing on that OS? It's really just
Hobson's choice for those of us outside the US and China.

Re: (Score:2)
by ikhider ( 2837593 )
Gee, wouldn't it be nice if the GNU licensing would allow
users to use, view the source, audit/modify and share the
source code? If only...

Forbes is wrong about everything (Score:5, Insightful)


by ScienceMan ( 636648 ) on Saturday October 19, 2019
@03:54PM (#59325536)
At the risk of my karma points, I have to point out that
Forbes commentary on tech topics is almost always wrong
and anti-predictive. Sorry and have a nice day!
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Insightful)
by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <martin.espinoza@gmail.com>
on Saturday October 19, 2019 @04:50PM (#59325722)
Homepage Journal
Forbes the magazine is journalism, with fact checking.
Forbes the website is just a bunch of blogs with some
minimal occasional editing, and no fact checking to speak
of. Literally. Why they're permitting this brand dilution to
occur is beyond me, I guess they're just transitioning
willfully into the post-truth era.
Back on the topic of Deepin, cloud sync of system
settings? #donotwant

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Op never used Enlightenment? (Score:5, Insightful)


by UnknownSoldier ( 67820 ) on Saturday October 19,
2019 @03:55PM (#59325540)
Sexy GUIs have been around for ages. After the novelty
wears off everyone goes back to functionality because it is
more important then form.
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Re: (Score:2)
by Dorianny ( 1847922 )
E16 was truly amazing. I can only imagine where it would
be if they had stuck with developing a desktop manager
instead of trying to develop yet another framework
development environment

Re: (Score:2)
by drinkypoo ( 153816 )
If you want sexy use emerald with truglass, it works again.
(It was missing for a while there, and wouldn't build, but
it's back baby.) And hey, avant-window-navigator is back,
too! Put that together with MATE and Compiz and you've
got all the shiny shiny plus all the functionality — all the
best user interface bits of Mac, Windows, and Linux. I had
this positively ages ago, and people walking by my desk
would say "hey, what's that!" when they saw my PC.
Unlike OSX you can configure the useless eye ca

Re: (Score:2)
by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )
First thing I do after installing an OS is disable the fancy
animations and space wasting graphics.

Can I move a window on screen w/o tearing? (Score:2)


by rsilvergun ( 571051 )
Honest question. It's a silly thing, but with BeOS I could
rapidly move a window on screen without the image
tearing. In the 90s. To this day I can't find a window
manager/compositor/OS that can do that. My kid's $1200

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Macbook can't either.

Re: (Score:2)
by drinkypoo ( 153816 )
Use compiz, turn on vsync, and turn down the number that
affects latency. framestep I think? It works for me.

Steam (Score:3)
by Mr_Blank ( 172031 ) on Saturday October 19, 2019
@04:01PM (#59325558) Journal
I will move to Linux when my Steam library is compatible.
I do not even play all the games in my Steam library, but if
ever try to play a game and it does not work with my OS I
am angry at the game maker and the OS.
I will move to Linux when hardware drivers are updated
on or before they are updated for Windows.
I will move to Linux when the OS is probably not
compromised with negative security features. Sorry, China,
but your Great Firewall of China reputation precedes you.
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Re: (Score:2)
by ikhider ( 2837593 )
Yes, you cannot play games on Linux. Linux does not have
hardware drivers (nor did they ever.) Plus Linux as a
secure operating system? Perish the thought!

Re: (Score:3)
by Opportunist ( 166417 )
Steam's ProtonPlay is surprisingly close to making Linux
gaming a reality. You might want to check ProtonDB
[protondb.com] for your favorite games and see whether
they are actually compatible. I was pleasantly surprised to
see that most of the games I actually play are compatible
(notable exceptions are Space Engineers and Empyrion,
though for the former there is now a workaround, albeit a
really tedious one). Some games require a little tweaking
but most actually work out of the box, either natively
anyway or with proton

so why? (Score:2)
by arbiter1 ( 1204146 )
Why is some Forbes guy which promoting this Linux

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means he knows nothing about anything pushing an OS


from a CHINESE based company? Is this fool being paid
by this company to promote this which wouldn't shock me
one bit if he was but who in their right mind would install
something from a Chinese company that has who knows
number of spying programs installed.

Re: (Score:2, Insightful)


by Kernel Kurtz ( 182424 )
Why is some Forbes guy which promoting this Linux
means he knows nothing about anything pushing an OS
from a CHINESE based company? Is this fool being paid
by this company to promote this which wouldn't shock me
one bit if he was but who in their right mind would install
something from a Chinese company that has who knows
number of spying programs installed.
If you live in China, having the Chinese spying on you is
bad.
If you live in the West, having the Chinese spying on you
is probably better than having the NSA/GCHQ/CSIS/*
spying on you

Re: (Score:2)
by drinkypoo ( 153816 )
If you live in the West, having the Chinese spying on you
is probably better than having the NSA/GCHQ/CSIS/*
spying on you
We can buy billions of dollars of merchandise from them,
but we can't buy your data? Does not compute.

Re: (Score:2)
by Kernel Kurtz ( 182424 )
Why?
For exactly the same reason if you live in China, having
the Chinese spying on you is bad.

Re: (Score:2)
by AHuxley ( 892839 )
In Communist China your social credit goes down. That
"stops" travel, education, housing, health care, banking,
internet depending on what was reported.
Then its time for intensive re-education..
In the West the NSA/GCHQ will pass on actionable

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information to US and UK law enforcement/mil.


The "answer" after that is a visit by the SAS in the UK... or
some "random" US law enforcement action in the US.
Outside the USA? The "answer" is direct action by the US
mil.
The difference in the West is freedom of sp

Re: (Score:2)
by Kernel Kurtz ( 182424 )
You must work for China. Western government will not be
attacking the west. Chinese government will.
So, no thank you.
The funny part is your fear of China makes your own
government watching you easy.
Scary terrorists also. Be afraid.

Re: (Score:2)
by green1 ( 322787 )
Is it likely any worse than one from an AMERICAN based
company? We have concrete proof that those have spying
programs installed. For the chinese ones all we usually
have is paranoia and unfounded claims. For me, knowing
that both governments spy, and knowing that the USA is a
more likely travel destination for me (though I try to avoid
it except for work where I have no choice), I'd rather send
my info to China than to the USA. China is unlikely to
care what I'm doing.

Re: (Score:3)
by DogDude ( 805747 )
The Chinese government can and will disappear you. The
US government won't (yet). Personally, I think you gotta
be nuts to trust the Chinese government more than the
American one.

Re: (Score:2)
by drinkypoo ( 153816 )
The Chinese government can and will disappear you. The
US government won't (yet).
How would you know? People go missing and never turn
up all the time.
Personally, I think you gotta be nuts to trust the Chinese
government more than the American one.
I think that's true too, but I think the difference is one of
degree. Yes, China has organlegging, and labor camps. But

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we buy their slave shit, and we put children in camps for


profit and have no way to return them. We probably buy
their prisoner-harvested organs, too, we buy everything
else from them and the USA is a hotbed of criminal
activity. For example, we're one of the world's largest
importers, traffickers, and exporters of illega

What do you think the USA PATRIOT Act is? (Score:2,


Interesting)
by BAReFO0t ( 6240524 )
Please explain it in detail to your fellow citizens at
Guantanamo Bay. The ones who made it there alive.
Or the citizens of any other country on the planet, who
have been abducted by the US to one of their global
concentration camps called "black sites".
Noo, that is not a "conspiracy theory". The Polish
government leader lost his post because there was a black
site on Polish ground. Something the Poles, still
remembering WWII, found not funny *at all*.)
China's leadership are pieces of shit, but they grew on

Re: (Score:2)
by green1 ( 322787 )
Both countries have a history of doing precisely that. At
least the Chinese aren't likely to care about me as I'm not
likely to ever visit there.

Knights who say CHINESE! (Score:2)


by BAReFO0t ( 6240524 )
"Do not say that word. It hurts us!
We prefer to say UK-UK-UK-MURICA!
Now bring us a nice shrubbery!"

Deepin, for all your Chinese Backdoor needs. (Score:2)


by Praedon ( 707326 )
How much emphasis has been put on investigating the
potential backdoors put in? Yes it's sleek, but what has
been done to ensure it's not the biggest privacy violation
since CISCO and Huawei?

Re: (Score:2)
by h33t l4x0r ( 4107715 )
You can easily block china from iptables. Maybe build
iptables from source though.

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Holy shit (Score:2)


by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )
Check out that video! It's got rounded corners!
Actually, the corners are a little too rounded. I like the
macOS ones better. But I guess they're patented so....
Other than that it looks pretty much like Gnome.

A truly sublime troll job (Score:2)


by MikeRT ( 947531 )
They can't say they didn't warn us:
"We're Deepin ur box, takin ur filez."

Yeah makes sense (Score:2)


by Dunbal ( 464142 ) *
linux cloud sync. I want an extremely secure operating
system that lets me share my data with the entire world
when someone else not under my control fucks up.

Re: (Score:2)
by h33t l4x0r ( 4107715 )
Not your data, system settings. In other words your
wallpaper and wifi password. I can't imagine the world
doing too much with that, and it seems nice to not have to
re-tweak all that stuff when I set up a new laptop.

As a recent purchaser of a laptop... (Score:2)


by EzInKy ( 115248 )
...infected with Win 10 I was totally flabbergasted by its
insistence it be connected to internet to fully take
advantage of the benefits owning a $MS operating system
provided.

Imagine China putting just a little ... (Score:2)


by Qbertino ( 265505 )
... effort into a FOSS Linux desktop. For good. For free.
They'd could squish MS Win and macOS like a bug. Can't
say I don't like that idea a little.

This is not Forbes Magazine. It is a blog site (Score:3)


by kriston ( 7886 ) on Saturday October 19, 2019
@05:25PM (#59325808) Homepage Journal
Reminder: This is not Forbes Magazine. It is a blog site
featuring contributing authors and nonpublished authors.
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Not surprising given the last name (Score:2)


by Khyber ( 864651 )
"Evangelho"
Evangelical Ho, anyone?
Truly, THIS is the year of the Linux Desktop.

Re: (Score:2)
by dissy ( 172727 )
Truly, THIS is the year of the Linux Desktop.
No no, this is the year of the pig. Next year is the year of
the Rat. Then it will be the year of the Ox. :P

not sure if i should (Score:3)


by gTsiros ( 205624 ) on Saturday October 19, 2019
@06:00PM (#59325876)
laugh or cry
i think the forbes guy is easily impressed *and* has no
idea what the linux (and bsd and variants) community has
achieved for over a decade now
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No thanks (Score:2)
by HalAtWork ( 926717 )
All that candy sounds like there are some "UX experts"
constantly tweaking and redesigning.
Sounds like a distro I'll stay away from.

Windows 8 launcher? (Score:2)


by dicobalt ( 1536225 )
Why in the world are they using a Windows 8 style
launcher? That mistake alone means this OS is going
nowhere fast.

Cloud sync? Adopt? ... Are you literally insane??


(Score:2)
by BAReFO0t ( 6240524 )
This is a serious question: Are you in a mental hospital?
Did you forget to take your pills? Do you regularly wear
Joker face paint?

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NO! Nobody in the history of the universe should


*anything* "cloud" anything!
Let alone at an unknown third party's unknown server with
an unknown time span until they decide to end the service.
People should have small home servers, stuck onto their
routers, that all their computers (be they stationary,
portable, pocketable or wearable) are connected and sync
through, using thei

Forbes self identifies as China Propaganda now


(Score:2)
by Cito ( 1725214 )
seems legit

UX nightmare with Forbes by-line - GIGO (Score:2)


by passionplay ( 607862 )
1. Every Desktop environment is standalone. KDE,
Gnome, Mate, Cinnamon, XFCE, LXDE, LXQt
2. Just because something looks cool doesn't mean it
should be done - a slide out control panel with a whole
slew of buttons is poor user experience when the control
panel has a zillion choices. This is as bad as the charm bar
in Windows or the new scattergories in the Windows 7
update, or the hiding of everything in Windows 10. You
want a clean interface - look at ClassicShell. The best of
Windows 95 paired with the men

Choice! (Score:2)
by Opportunist ( 166417 )
Now I can choose freely whether the US or the Chinese
government can sift through my files and invade me any
way they like. Either choice is crap and not what I want,
but there ain't no real alternatives. Ok, technically there
are, but since so few people choose that one, they will get
no support and eventually I'll have to accept that this ain't
going nowhere.
What does that feel like an election?

You funny (Score:2)


by RogueWarrior65 ( 678876 )
You're trusting a Chinese OS? *points and laughs*

Careful there with Forbes (Score:2)


by Fly Swatter ( 30498 )
They are now owned 51% by Integrated Whale Media
Investments, based in Hong Kong.

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Re:Country of Origin: China (Score:4, Insightful)


by Stoutlimb ( 143245 ) on Saturday October 19, 2019
@04:07PM (#59325580)
Out of curiosity, how many things in your house are
marked "Made in China"?
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by markdavis ( 642305 )
>"Nope, nope, nope, HELL no."
If it were like Red Flag Linux, I would agree. But this is
different. It is not a state-sponsored project. And, much
more importantly, it is OPEN SOURCE. If you like the
desktop environment, it will probably be available for any
distro, eventually (Fedora, Mageia, Ubuntu, Mint, SuSe,
etc).

Re: (Score:2)
by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )
As long as it's open source it's fine. Otherwise I'd have to
add Linux to my list of banned products because too much
of it comes from the US and other compromised Five Eyes
countries.

Own government spyware then? (Score:2)


by BAReFO0t ( 6240524 )
From those with actual power over your anus-prison-
Bubba distance in spacetime?

Re: (Score:2)
by Opportunist ( 166417 )
I'd already be satisfied with something that works and is
quick to respond.
Like, say, the systems we had about 15-20 years ago.

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