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Wylie77
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 by Wylie77 » Mon May 28, 2018 5:56 pm

Thanks Greg - currently using the BMW clutch parts other than a dnepr clutch plate, actuation rod etc Posts: 42
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Dan

Frankenbike - Ural frame, dnepr sidecar BMW R80 engine mated to modified Dnepr gearbox - 4 plus reverse - drum brakes
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Wylie77
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 by Wylie77 » Mon May 28, 2018 7:51 pm

here are some pix of the worn bits...... Posts: 42

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Frankenbike - Ural frame, dnepr sidecar BMW R80 engine mated to modified Dnepr gearbox - 4 plus reverse - drum brakes
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 by GregAus » Tue May 29, 2018 6:35 pm

Read https://w6rec.com/bmw-motorcycle-clutch ... nd-repair/ and it'll give you some good advice on your problems. A single
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Dnepr clutch plate won't cope reliably with your set-up. Consider https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CJ750-Advan ... 2757663974 Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:13 am
but be aware it has both good and bad reports, probably due to small batch manufacture. There are several types of clutch Contact: 
bearings. plastic and bronze with balls and radial bearings. Also make sure your gearbox is properly aligned to the engine.
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Wylie77
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 by Wylie77 » Tue May 29, 2018 9:05 pm

Greg thanks so much for this - very much appreciated. Posts: 42

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I always see Dneper clutch plate sold in pairs.....is that because they only last 5 minutes?? Contact: 
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Already have a Radial bearing to fit but Rod is toast - does anyone
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Thanks again

Dan

Frankenbike - Ural frame, dnepr sidecar BMW R80 engine mated to modified Dnepr gearbox - 4 plus reverse - drum brakes
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GregAus
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 by GregAus » Wed May 30, 2018 7:05 am

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 Wylie77 wrote: Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:13 am
Greg thanks so much for this - very much appreciated. Contact: 

I always see Dneper clutch plate sold in pairs.....is that because they only last 5 minutes??

Already have a Radial bearing to fit but Rod is toast - does anyone make on that lasts??

Thanks again

Dan

Dneprs and Urals use a twin plate clutch. The Dnepr actuation rod has a square end and the BMW conical. This is one situation
where a square peg doesn't go into a round hole.
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 by Fredrikrosen » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:07 pm

My former Dnepr MT-16 with a BMW R69S engine.

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Ural 750 Retro -2010

Ural 650 Solo Export -1992
IZH Jupiter-3 -1980
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Honda CR500R -1984
Dnepr MT16 with BMW engine :sold
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Plus another 50+ bikes though the years.

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 by vetsurginc » Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:20 am

Very nice!

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 by fencermatt » Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:05 am

A quick update on my engine modification. When I first did the swap, I tried to avoid using a centering ring because I couldn't
find a machinist who'd make it for a price I could afford. I tried getting the clutch centered really well and then taking the
whole engine and transmission to the welder, so that everything lined up when he welded up the new mounting ears on the
transmission. That worked fine until I pulled the transmission to swap out some gears. Just a few hundred miles after that I fencermatt
pulled the transmission off again to replace a seal and discovered that my clutch splines were almost completely worn out, and Party Member

the input shaft on the transmission needed to be worn out.

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Moral of the story: Use a centering ring!
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Here's the one I installed in my engine. Luckily, over the last few years I lucked into a great wife with a aerospace-machinist
friend. He knocked one together for me out of some spare aluminum in a Saturday afternoon!

Here's the diagram I found on the internet that I handed him

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Diagram
and here's the end result. Fit like a glove!

Centering Ring

Matt Pearsall
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