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Intro To
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company or just some
shares, building up an entirely new
business or starting mutual venture
with somebody else are some basic
ways of spreading the business
activities.

Consolidation goes “hand in hand” with


any foreign business.

But what is it?

Many people refer to consolidation


when they speak about their share in
other business in general.

However, we need to di erentiate


between the individual types of
investments in other businesses,
because every type of the investment
is accounted for in its own way.

What Shall We Do?


First, you need to determine what type
of investment you’re dealing with.

Then, you need to look in the


appropriate IFRS standard and apply
the appropriate rules.

In today’s article and video, I’d like to


outline the basic types of investments,
their accounting methods and the IFRS
standards you should be looking at.

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IFRS Standards
Dealing with Group
Accounts
There are 6 IFRS standards dealing
with group accounts:

1. IAS 27 Separate Financial


Statements

This standard prescribes how the


investor shall present its investments in
the individual or separate (non-
consolidated) nancial statements.

Before 2013, IAS 27 covered also


consolidated nancial statements, but
this part has been superseded and
starting 1 January 2013, you should look
to IFRS 10 (//www.ifrsbox.com/ifrs-10-
consolidated- nancial-statements/) for
the rules about consolidated nancial
statements.

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2. IAS 28 Investments in
Associates

IAS 28 (//www.ifrsbox.com/ias-28-
investments-associates-joint-
ventures/)prescribes the accounting
treatment of associates, or the entities
in which the investor has signi cant
in uence (but not control or joint
control).

3. IFRS 3 Business
Combinations

IFRS 3 (//www.ifrsbox.com/ifrs-3-
business-combinations/) outlines the
accounting when the investor obtains a
control over its investment.

People are often confused because


both IFRS 3 and IFRS 10 deal with this
situation, but each of these standards
deals with its own aspects of the same
thing.

IFRS 3 tells us what the business


combination is, how to account for it at
the recognition (but not when you
perform consolidation afterwards –
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4. IFRS 10 Consolidated
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This is the second standard dealing


with the situation when the investor
obtains a control over its investment.

As opposed to IFRS 3 mentioned


above, IFRS 10
(//www.ifrsbox.com/ifrs-10-
consolidated- nancial-statements/)
de nes the control and gives a
guidance to identify whether there is a
control or not.

Then it also prescribes the


consolidation procedures for preparing
consolidated nancial statements.

5. IFRS 11 Joint
Arrangements

IFRS 11 (//www.ifrsbox.com/ifrs-11-
joint-arrangements/) deals with the
third type of investment – joint
arrangement, which could be a joint
operation or joint venture. In both
cases, investor obtains joint control
over some business with some other
investor.

Before 2013, IAS 28 included the rules


for joint arrangements, but now, we
should look to IFRS 11.

6. IFRS 12 Disclosure of
Interests in Other Entities
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It requires disclosures of various kind of


information about these interests.

How to Account for


Your Investment
As I’ve already mentioned above, you
should rst determine WHAT TYPE of
investment you deal with and based on
the type, apply speci ed accounting
treatment.

There are the 4 basic types of


investments:

1. Subsidiaries

IFRS 10 (//www.ifrsbox.com/ifrs-10-
consolidated- nancial-statements/)
de nes a subsidiary as “an entity
controlled by another entity”.

The basic indicator of having a control


over subsidiary is the size of your share
in it. If you own more than 50% of
investment’s shares, then it indicates
you control it.

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true: investor can have a control despite
the share lower than 50%.

If there is a control, then investor must


account for such an investment using
the acquisition method and apply full
consolidation procedures when making
consolidated nancial statements.

2. Associates

IAS 28 (//www.ifrsbox.com/ias-28-
investments-associates-joint-
ventures/)de nes an associate as “an
entity over which an investor has
signi cant in uence and which is
neither a subsidiary nor an interest in
joint venture”.

Here, the basic indicator of signi cant


in uence is the investors share
between 20% and 50%, but similarly as
with subsidiaries and control, there are
situations where signi cant in uence
might or might not be demonstrated
regardless the size of ownership.

If there’s a signi cant in uence, then


investor must account for such an
investment using the equity method.

3. Joint Arrangements

IFRS 11 (//www.ifrsbox.com/ifrs-11-
joint-arrangements/) de nes joint
arrangement as “arrangement of which

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the “share” here, because it should be
equal for all the parties. So if there are 2
parties of arrangement, each party has
50% share. If there are 3 parties, each
party has 33.3% share – you get the
idea.

Instead, parties need to exercise joint


control over the arrangement. It means
that important decisions require
unanimous consent of all parties of the
arrangement and no single party can
decide independently.

IFRS 11 requires accounting for joint


arrangement based on its speci c type:

If parties established joint venture,


then each party accounts for its
investment using the equity
method in line with IAS 28, and
If parties established joint
operation, then each party
accounts for its own assets,
liabilities, expenses, revenues and
its share on all items incurred
jointly.

4. Other Investments

If an investor acquires any other


investment that does not fall into any of
above categories, then it is accounted
for as a nancial instrument in line with
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What’s Next?
This was just a very quick and short
introduction to the world of group
accounts and consolidation and details
are in the other articles that I
recommend you to read:

IAS 28 Investments in Associates


and Joint Ventures
(//www.ifrsbox.com/ias-28-
investments-associates-joint-
ventures/)
IFRS 3 Business Combinations
(//www.ifrsbox.com/ifrs-3-
business-combinations/)
IFRS 10 Consolidated Financial
Statements
(//www.ifrsbox.com/ifrs-10-
consolidated- nancial-
statements/)
IFRS 11 Joint Arrangements
(//www.ifrsbox.com/ifrs-11-joint-
arrangements/)
Example: How to consolidate
(//www.ifrsbox.com/consolidatio
n-example/)

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57 Comments

iyuoha F.O. July 3, 2014 at 7:41


am
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to-consolidation-and-group-
accounts/#comment-2089)

SIlvia, you are simply


wonderful. You are a great
blessing to the world of IFRS

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Silvia M. July 3, 2014 at 8:00


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simba July 3, 2014 at 10:26 am


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hie silvia thank you for the


great stu .

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OYEWOLE July 3, 2014 at 2:20


pm
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accounts/#comment-2092)

“wonderful, wonderful”” Silvia


M. you turn IFRS into a reading
novel for people to have
standard knowledge.

Good Job.

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Silvia M. July 3, 2014 at 6:01


pm
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accounts/#comment-2095)

Thank you so much for this


poetic comment! Enjoy! S.

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raj July 3, 2014 at 2:49 pm
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Hi Silvia

It’s been a while since your


last email. Hope all is well

Fantastic summary. You have a


natural ability to simplify
di cult subject matter. Really
admire that…

Thank

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Silvia M. July 3, 2014 at 6:01


pm
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accounts/#comment-2094)

Hi Raj, glad you liked that!


Well, my kids are on their
vacation, so I post once per 2
weeks during this time – the
family is still my priority But
after that, I’ll return to once
per week.
Take care!
S.

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Shiraz July 3, 2014 at 11:28 pm


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what i would say is, this is just
“awesome & user friendly”

many thanks Silvia for sharing


such a great topic in a simple
way, users like me can
understand the basics well.

expecting more on IFRS

regards

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kazeem July 4, 2014 at 7:26


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God bless you Silvia, you have


made be a better person in
IFRS within just 1week of my
joining your website
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(http://www.ifrsbox.com), may
God continue to increase your
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KIBONA July 4, 2014 at 7:54


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Mike July 4, 2014 at 8:22 pm


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Unbelievable. Its like ABC

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Aashutosh July 19, 2014 at


10:35 pm
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accounts/#comment-2100)

thanks Silvia , very nice


presentation & easy to
understand.

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Robert August 7, 2014 at 8:59


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A very nice basic summary.


Though I think you should
consider emphasising that
power, not voting rights, is the
criteria for assessing control. In

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especially the percentages,

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IFRS guidance still
comparable to US GAAP,
where these bright lines are
still in force.

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Silvia M. August 8, 2014 at 5:04


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Hi, yes, you’re right – the


power rules. However, but this
was just basic summary to
introduce people to this
complex topic. Please note I’m
not emphasizing the
“percentages” – I rather write
that it’s just an indicator and
the opposite can be truth. I
write more about the power in
my IFRS 10 summary here:
http://www.ifrsbox.com/ifrs-
10-consolidated- nancial-
statements/
(http://www.ifrsbox.com/ifrs-
10-consolidated- nancial-
statements/)
PS – now I understood your
second comment. You
thought I deleted this one. No,
I did not. The reason it did not
appear immediately is that I
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spammers, etc. I do it once in
12-24 hours, so you were too
quick. Anyway, I left it there
because I feel I need to
defend myself and my work
for the good of others. Good
luck.

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robert August 7, 2014 at 11:59


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Sorry to see that comments


not like “God bless you Silvia,
you have made be a better
person in IFRS within just
1week” are simply deleted.

Puts the integrity of your site


into serious question.

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Silvia M. August 8, 2014 at 4:59


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to-consolidation-and-group-
accounts/#comment-2103)

Hi Robert, did you make any


comment that was deleted? I
don’t remember deleting any
similar comment.
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IFRSIconversion
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manager with 70% pay
rise.
people in a very simple way
andto
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learnappreciate
more their
feedback. It makes me feel
that my work helps someone.
However, I don’t understand
people like you. I know you’re
an IFRS expert, coming from
Czech Republic. Your IFRS
knowledge is so great – I
know it, as I’ve read some of
your valuable commentaries
in other sites (including your
articles in your Czech site). So
I’m quite surprised you rather
attack other people instead of
putting the brains together
and creating something great
for others. Silvia

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ali akhter September 8, 2014


at 1:47 pm
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to-consolidation-and-group-
accounts/#comment-2105)

Silvia, you rock!!! You are great,


both as accountant and as
person.

Robert, don’t spit out your


jealousy here on Silvia. She
does her best for us, and
you???

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You make teaching and


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Christabel Ampah September


30, 2014 at 5:06 pm
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accounts/#comment-2107)

Silvia you are soo awesome


and your explanation is the
best. I now really understand
the concept of consolidation.

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Silvia M. October 1, 2014 at


7:14 am
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to-consolidation-and-group-
accounts/#comment-2108)

Thank you Christabel, it’s


important to know that you
actually gained something
from my lectures. All the best!
S.

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emma August 11, 2015 at 6:42


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Please, how can tabular


method of group consolidated
accounts be done using
excel? Please, the inter
company adjustments should
be speci ed in the tabular
excel worksheet.

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Silvia M. August 12, 2015 at


6:46 am
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to-consolidation-and-group-
accounts/#comment-2110)

Hi Emma, I think I have


covered this topic in the other
article in which I illustrated the
“tabular method”. Please try to
search for “How to
consolidate”. It’s coming with
the video. Of course, the
details including
intercompany balances are in
my IFRS Kit
(http://www.ifrsbox.com/ifrs-
kit). S.

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thank you so much Miss Silvia.
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15.

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naseem September 1, 2015 at


12:21 pm
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to-consolidation-and-group-
accounts/#comment-2112)

Hi Sivia,

Thanks for your good


presentation. A wholly owned
subsidiary should be
consolidated, is there any
exception for not
consolidating the 100 per cent
subsidiary. If yes, could you
please indicate the conditions
for the exception.

Thanks

Naseem

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Hi. Thanks. But the subsidiary


does not fall under the
de nition of an investment
entity.

Thanks

Naseem

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11:45 am
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Subsidiary not, but maybe the


parent.

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OK, that was just 1 exception.


There are some more
exceptions (e.g. when an
ultimate parent prepares
consolidated FS, then
intermediate parent does not
need so in some
circumstances), but most of
the time – 100% share
indicates control and if there’s
control, then there’s a need to
consolidate.

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MALOMO MICHAEL
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I just landed on your website


but was amazed with the ease
with which you explain group
accounting. Please include
something on consolidating
situations with subsidiaries
and sub-subsidiaries. I am a
Ugandan CPA but now have
challenges with purchasing
your IFRS toolkit. What is the
best way of paying?

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Silvia M. September 18, 2015


at 2:30 pm
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Hi Michael, yes, maybe in the


future, I’ll include some
example with sub-

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Malomo Michael September


21, 2015 at 12:10 pm
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Hello Silvia
What are the cases where a
parent may have 50% or more
of the investment shares in a
subsidiary and yet not have a
controlling interest? What
then determines the
controlling interest if not the
investment shares held?

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Pieter Marais February 10,


2017 at 11:29 am
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Power to in uence the


economic decision making of
the entity, and rights to
resulting gain/losses
determines control. (“Control
requires exposure or rights to
variable returns and the ability
to a ect those returns through
power over an investee”.)

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Phuong Thanh October 7,
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Thank you, Silvia!


I used your materials to
training IFRS for my students.
Hope see you in Vietnam.

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Monica November 8, 2015 at


7:25 am
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Alexander February 11, 2016


at 10:58 pm
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Hi Silvia!
I have a question regarding
IAS 10. Would you do full
consolidation of Company A,
3% of share capital of which is
directly owned by Company B,
assuming that the remaining
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the treasury stock was built by
Company A?

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Silvia M. February 12, 2016 at


7:33 am
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to-consolidation-and-group-
accounts/#comment-2125)

Dear Alexander,
this is a very interesting
structure; however in this case
it’s absolutely necessary to
examine who controls
Company A. The size of the
share is not as important as
control. So, is Company B able
to exercise control? If yes, then
yes, I would consolidate, no
matter company B has only
3%. Hope this helps. S.

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James August 21, 2016 at 5:40


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Hi Silvia,
After 2 months, I landed a new position of IIFRS
got aconversion
question, how
manager with 70% pay
rise.
does company consolidate

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incurred except common
shareholders. Is it the full
consolidation apply? Also,
there is no control over both
companies.

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Silvia M. August 22, 2016 at


2:22 pm
(https://www.ifrsbox.com/intro-
to-consolidation-and-group-
accounts/#comment-2127)

Dear James, I don’t


understand your question.
Who should/should not
consolidate? What “both”
companies? If there is a
company A having 2
shareholders, then there’s
nothing to consolidate. Please
explain it further. S.

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James August 22, 2016 at 3:24


pm
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accounts/#comment-2128)

Hi Silvia,

First of all, sorry for my bad


English. Let me try to explain
further my situation.

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with 70%
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more was run by 2
di erent directors and
management. For some
reason, the auditor of
company A nd out that the
company B has the same
shareholder and the auditor
for company A request to
consolidate the account for
company A & B. How can it be
done? And i can’t nd any
relevant information and
reasons to consolidate the
accounts. If so, how will it
a ect company A.

Thanks in advance.

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Venkateshwar Rao
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October 10, 2016 at 12:53 pm
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accounts/#comment-2129)

Dear Silvia,

If the parent company


nancial year end on 31 March
2016, one of the subsidiary
companies nancial year end
on 31 December 2015 and one
of the subsidiary companies
nancial year end on 30 April
2016. Is it possible to prepare
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statements for parent

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31 March 2016? Please note
that there is no signi cant
material transaction occurred
in subsidiary companies from
01 January 2016 to 30 April
2016.

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Akrity Acharya December 17,


2016 at 6:04 am
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It just simpli es everything…


very e ective… !!!

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Carlos Campos February 15,


2017 at 4:07 pm
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Hi Silvia,
I’ve discovered this website
about IFRS by accident and it’s
been great discovering your
tips and explanations. they are
direct, simple and very useful.
Thank you!

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Hi Silvia

Great work..:)

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Shikha Gupta March 30, 2017


at 5:31 pm
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Dear Silvia,

You are really great. I just love


your way of presentation .
Please mail me your email id
for discussion.

Thanks & Regards,


Shikha

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Elder Cruz April 19, 2017 at


7:21 pm
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Hi Silvia.
Thank you for your excellent
explanation. I have one
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Should this parent adopt IFRS
1 with the comparative
information (3 statements of
nancial position, 2
comprehensive income
statements, 2 cash ow
statements, etc)?

Or… Is there an optional


exception to the comparative
information? Can the new
parent use the book value of
the subsidiary (under IFRS) to
consolidate and indicate in its
notes to the nancial
statements that the parent is
under IFRS?

Thank you so much for your


attention to this

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Silvia M. April 20, 2017 at 7:43


pm
(https://www.ifrsbox.com/intro-
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Dear Elder,
hmmm, if the parent is NOT
under IFRS, does it prepare
the IFRS nancial statements?
Because if not, and the parent
prepares its nancial
statements under totally
di erent standards, then IFRS
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consolidate accordingly.
Anyway, I think that 1 rule is
universal: when you
consolidate, both parent and
subsidiary should use the
same accounting policies, and
therefore, it would be
necessary to restate
subsidiary’s numbers. S.

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Sanath November 19, 2017 at


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Thank you Silvia! You are the


best!
I don’t need classes now to
learn IFRS.
Do you have a help section
where we can ask questions
from you?
I’m looking forward to buy
your Kit as well.
Keep doing what you are
doing!!!
Hope to see you in person and
also would like to work with
you to make the Accounting
Global , “Perfect”.

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Hi Sanath, glad you like my


page and thank you for your
kind words You can ask
questions here in the
comments below articles, I
often respond. Best! S.

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King Sitaw May 24, 2018 at


3:56 am
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Hello there,
Just an inquiry. For
consolidation and separate
reports of the parent and
subsidiaries, can a subsidiary
use di erent accounting
policies in presenting its
separate nancial statement
and adjust the same for
consolidation purposes?

For example, a subsidiary uses


revaluation method in
accounting for its Property and
equipment while the parent
company uses the cost
method less depreciation. Is
this allowed by IFRS? to
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the subsidiary needs to adjust
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retain its presentation on the
separate nancial statement?

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Arjun M September 8, 2018 at


4:57 am
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Thnx Silvia. Brilliantly done.

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Silvia September 8, 2018 at


9:35 am
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Thank you

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More grace!!!

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