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Recapitulate
• We discussed Doppler Effect
in Light.
• We also described Transverse
Doppler Effect.
• We gave flavor of some
experiments where Doppler
Effect is used.
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C Frame
Centre of Mass Frame
(C-Frame) is defined
as a frame in which
the sum of momenta
of a system of
particles is zero.
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L Frame
Laboratory Frame (L-
Frame ) is one in
which the experiment
is performed/
described which may
or may not be same as
C frame.
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In STR, problems can
be simplified when
transformed to C-
frame.
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Find initial momentum
E 3Moc 2
L 3 1 2
2
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3
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pL 3 Mo c 8Moc
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Or use
E 2 p2c 2 Mo2c 4
2 2 2 2 4
p c E Mo c
p2c 2 9Mo2c 4 Mo2c 4
p 8Moc
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Prof. Shiva Prasad, Department of Physics, IIT Bombay
L Frame
Conservation of
Energy and
momentum
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Prof. Shiva Prasad, Department of Physics, IIT Bombay
These equations have
to be solved using
following equations’
E1L p1L c mo c
2 2 2 2 4
E2L p2L c mo c
2 2 2 2 4
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Go to C Frame
As there only a single
particle initially, we
shall have following in
C frame.
pxc 0; Ec Moc 2
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Prof. Shiva Prasad, Department of Physics, IIT Bombay
C Frame
Conservation of
energy and
momentum gives
following.
Mo c 2 C mo c
2 2
Mo
C
2mo
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The two particles will
move in opposite
direction with the
following speed.
c 12
c 2
1 4mo 2
v 1 2 c 1 2
c
C Mo
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Prof. Shiva Prasad, Department of Physics, IIT Bombay
These speeds have only
to be transformed back
to L frame taking care of
appropriate sign.
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Issues
• It is a two particle
system from the
beginning.
• Hence C frame is
not as obvious as
in previous
problem.
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First Method
• Let C frame travel in L
frame with a speed v.
• Find momentum and
Energy in C frame.
• Equate the
momentum to zero to
find v.
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L Frame
Total initial energy of
the two electrons
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L Frame
c
The momentum of the
second electron is zero.
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Transform to a frame having a
velocity v in L frame.
MeV v 1.4MeV
p1x 1.304 2
c c
v 0.51MeV
p2 x 0 2
c
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For C frame
p1x p2 x 0
This gives
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MeV v 1.4MeV
1.304 c 2
c
v 0.51MeV
0 2 0
c
v .683c
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Method 2
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Prof. Shiva Prasad, Department of Physics, IIT Bombay
Length in L
E
2
p
2
Li
Li 2
c
2
MeV
(1.304) (1.91) 1.9482
2
2
c
MeV
1.396i
c
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Prof. Shiva Prasad, Department of Physics, IIT Bombay
In C Frame
The length of four
vector is same but the
total momentum is
zero. Hence we can
evaluate the total
energy.
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E
2
Ci
2
c
MeV
1.396i
c
E
2 2
MeV
1.949
Ci
2
c c
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Prof. Shiva Prasad, Department of Physics, IIT Bombay
In C Frame
The energy of the two
scattered electrons
and the magnitude of
the momenta are
same. We therefore
get the following.
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1.396
EC 0.698MeV
2
MeV
pC (0.698) (0.51) 0.477
2 2
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The magnitude of x
and y component of
the momenta are
given by
0.477 MeV
pCx pCy 0.337
2 c
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Relative speed of C frame
in L frame in this method.
0.698
1.369
0.51
1 1.873 1
2
2
2
0.466
1.873
v 0.683c
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Prof. Shiva Prasad, Department of Physics, IIT Bombay
Further
The energy and momenta
can be obtained in L frame,
using Energy Momentum
transformation.
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Example 3
A proton (p) with kinetic
energy K is incident on
another proton at rest in
L frame.
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Prof. Shiva Prasad, Department of Physics, IIT Bombay
After the interaction
four particles are
found, three proton and
one anti- proton. Find
the least value of K
needed for this process
to happen.
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C-Frame
The least energy required
would be when all the
four particles are created
at rest. But that is
possible only when initial
momentum is zero,
which is so in C-frame.
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The energy in C-
frame is given by
following.
EC 4moc 2
16mo c
2 2
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Length in L-
Frame
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Prof. Shiva Prasad, Department of Physics, IIT Bombay
2
E
p 2
2
c
K 2
2 2mo K
K 2mo c
2 2
2
c c
2mo K 4mo c
2 2
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Equating the length in L
before interaction to
length in C frame after
interaction
16mo c 2mo K 4mo c
2 2 2 2
K 6mo c 2
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