GOVERNMENT OF ANDHRA PRADESH
WATER RESOURCES DEPARTMEN
From To,
Sri K.Srinivas, M.Tech, MIE, MIGS All the members of
Engineer-in-Chief (Admin), Board of Chief Engineers.
Water Resources Department, &
Chairman, Board of Chief Engineers,
D.No.48-10-9/1,NH Feeder Road,
Currency Nagar, Vijayawada - 520008
Lr. No. RC/ENC(AW)/ADA/AEE/24686/Vol.XI /2018 _Dt,10-01-2019
Sir,
Sub: BOCEs - 11" Meeting of Board of Chief Engineers’ during the year
2018, held @ 03.00 P. M on 27-12-2018 in the Conference hall of the
(Admin), Water Resources Department, 1° Floor,
Engineer-in-C
Currency Nagar, Ramavarappadu, Vijayawada - Minutes of the
meeting communicated -Regarding.
It is to inform that the Minutes of the 11" Board of Chief Engineer's
meeting during the year 2018 held @ 03.00 P. M on 27-12-2018 in the
Conference hall of Engineer-in-Chief (Admin), Water Resources Department,
Vijayawada are placed in the Water Resources Department official web site i.e
‘www. ni 101
All the members are therefore requested to download the same and take
further necessary action.
Encls: As stated above
Yours faithfully
Sd/-K.Srinivas, Dt.10-01-2019
Engineer-in-Chief (Admin)
Water Resources Department &
Chairman, Board of Chief Engineers
Al
Chief (Admin)MINUTES OF 11° BOARD OF CHIEF ENGINEERS MEETING HELD ON
27.12.2018 @ 3.00 P.M, IN THE CONFERENCE HALL OF ENGINEER.IN-
CHIEF(A.W/LW) PERTAINING TO AGENDAS 2,3 AND 4.
At the outset, the Engineer-in-Chief(IW) & Chairman, Board of Chief
Engineers has welcomed all the Engineers-in-Chief, Chief Engineers of Engineering
Departments to the Board of Chief Engineers meeting to discuss on the agenda
items. The list of members attended the meetings are appended vide Annexure-l. The
Engineer-in-Chief (AW/IW) initiated the discussions.
A :2_ Implementation of Pre-GST machinery hire charges for all the
ongoing works as on 01-07-2017 or thereafter for which agreements were
concluded based on estimates sanctioned with subsumed tax element included
The Engineer-in-Chief, R&B Department, while enclosing the Builders Association of India
(BA) representation dt: 04.12.2018, had informed, vide his Lr. No. R&B Dep/ ENC/ DEC(RY/
EE(TEC/ DEE7/ AEE2/ 2018 dt06.12.2018, that the Pre-GST machinery charges were
restricted for the agreements that were concluded before 01.07.2017 only as per
G.O.Ms.No.118, WR(Reforms) Dept dt09.11.2018 and requested to extended the
implementation of G.O for the works estimates prepared with SoR 2016-17 and previous
years & 2017-18 with VAT @ 5% irrespective of date of agreement.
Further, it is submitted that the Goods and Service Tax came into force from 01
07-2017 onwards. In order to implement the GST Act, the Goverment of Andhra
Pradesh has issued instructions vide Government Memo No. 47027/ 297/ 2017,
Finance(WR.!) Department, dt. 13-09-2017.
Accordingly, the Board of Chief Engineers had revised the SoR 2017-18 with bastc
material rates after deducting the subsumed taxes from the approved rates of SoR
2017-18 and republished as Reformulated SoR 2017-18 in the Water Resources
Department website with the proceedings dt. 13-10-2017 with instructions to field
staff to arrive Revised Estimates for the balance works pending after 01-07-2017 with
the above finalized rates with the relevant Reformulated SoR and to conclude
Supplemental agreements with the executing agencies,
Subsequently, the Government have issued guidelines for implementations of GST
vide G. O. Ms. No. 58, Finance (WRI) Dept, dt. 08-05-2018.Based on the above said G.0., the BoCEs had revised the SoRs 2009-10 to 2016-17
with basic material rates after deducting the subsumed taxes and the same were
published in the Water Resources Department in the form of Reformulated SoRs.
Meanwhile, based on the representation of Builders Association of India(BAl), after
detailed discussions, the BoCEs recommended to the Government for implementation
of Pre-GST machinery rates for the ongoing works for which agreements were
concluded prior to 01-07-2017.
The Government have issued 6.0. Ms. No. 118, Water Resources (Reforms) Dept,
dt, 09-11-2018, allowing the Pre-GST machinery rates for all the ongoing works as on
01-07-2017 which are continued after 01-07-2017 for which agreements were
concluded before 01-07-2017.
The Builders Association of India(BAl), in turn, have submitted a representation to
Engineer-in-Chief(R&B) with a request to consider the implementation of Pre-GST
Machinery rates for all the agreements concluded prior to enforcement of the
Reformulated SoR 2017-18 with a request to implement the Go Ms. No. 118
WR(Reforms) Dept., dt. 09-11-2018 for all the works agreements concluded with VAT
@ 5% ie, prior to the enforcement of estimates with Reformulated SOR 2017-18.
With the above representations by BAI, the Engineer-in-Chief(R&B) had
requested the Engineer-in-Chief (Admn), Water Resources Dept, to place the above
issue before BoCEs for taking further necessary action.
The same is placed before the Board of Chief Engineers for discussion and
appropriate recommendation on the matter.
“The members have discussed the matter in detail and examined the
proposal of Builders Association of India (BAI) submitted by Engineer-in-
Chief(R&B). After detailed discussions, it is observed that the proceedings for
issue of Reformulated SoR 2017-18 (ie, basic material rates exclusive of
subsumed taxes) was issued on 13-10-2017. Further, it is observed that In
between the period of date of implementation of GST and the issue of
proceedings for Reformulated SoR 2017-18, agreements were concluded with
the estimates prepared with SoRs having subsumed taxes included.In view of the above, the BoCEs have opined that it is reasonable to
extend the G.O. Ms. No. 118, WR(Reforms) Dept, dt. 09-11-2018 for the
agreements concluded after 01-07-2017(te, date of implementation of GST)
with estimates prepared with SoRs having subsumed taxes included for the
reason that there were no proper instructions and guidelines on
implementation of GST Act in work contracts during the transition period and
the agencies quoted their rates based on the then prepared estimated rates.
Finally, the BoCEs have recommended fot issuing amendment for the
G.0. Ms. No. 118, WR(Reforms) Dept, dt. 09-11-2018, duly allowing the Pre-
GST machinery hire charges for all the ongoing works as on 01-07-2017 or
thereafter for which agreements were concluded based on estimates sanctioned
with subsumed tax element included”
Action: Engineer-in-Chief, Admn, WR Department
Agenda:3 Allowing the Contractors Profit_and Overhead charges on
subsumed taxes for all the ongoing works as on 01-07-2017 or thereafter for
which agreements were concluded based _on estimates sanctioned with
subsumed tax element included.
The Engineer-in-Chief, R&B Department, while enclosing the Builders Association of India
(BAI) representation dt: 04.12.2018, had informed, vide his Lr. No. R&B Dep/ ENC/ DEC(RY/
EE(TEC)/ DEE7/ AEE2/ 2018 dt06.12.2018, that the Pre-GST machinery charges were
restricted for the agreements that were concluded before 01.07.2017 only as per
G.O.Ms.No.118, WR(Reforms) Dept dt09.11.2018 and requested to extended the
implementation of G.O for the works estimates prepared with SoR 2016-17 and previous
years & 2017-18 with VAT @ 5% irrespective of date of agreement.
Further, It is submitted that the Goods and Service Tax came into force from 01-
07-2017 onwards. In order to implement the GST Act, the Government of Andhra
Pradesh has issued’ instructions vide Government Memo No. 47027/ 297/ 2017,
Finance(WR.l) Department, dt. 13-09-2017.
Accordingly, the Board of Chief Engineers had revised the SoR 2017-18 with basic
material rates after deducting the subsumed taxes from the approved rates of SOR
2017-18 and republished as Reformulated SoR 2017-16 in the Water Resources
Department website with the proceedings dt. 13-10-2017 with instructions to field
staff to arrive Revised Estimates for the balance works pending after 01-07-2017 with
8the above finalized rates with the relevant Reformulated SoR and to conclude
Supplemental agreements with the executing agencies,
Subsequently, the Government have issued guidelines for implementations of GST
vide G. 0. Ms, No. 58, Finance (WR.!) Dept, dt. 08-05-2018.
Based on the above said G.., the BoCEs had revised the SoRs 2009-10 to 2016-17
with basic material rates after deducting the subsumed taxes and the same were
published in the Water Resources Department in the form of Reformulated SoRs.
The Builders Association of India(BAl), have submitted a representation to
Engineer-in-Chief(R&B) with a request to consider a methodology to implement GST
for works agreement concluded with VAT so as to deduct the eligible subsumed taxes
without altering the parameters of OH & Contractors Profit committed earlier, since
the Overhead charges are to be borne by the contractors remain the same both in pre
and post GST era.
With the above representations by BAI, the Engineer-in-Chief(R&B) had
requested the Engineer-in-Chief(Admn), Water Resources Dept, to place the above
issue before BoCEs for taking further necessary action,
The same is placed before the Board of Chief Engineers for discussion and
appropriate recommendation on the matter.
The members have discussed the matter in detail and examined the
proposal of Builders Association of India (BAI) submitted by Engineer-in-
Chief(R&B). After detailed discussions, it is observed that the proceedings for
issue of Reformulated SoR 2017-18 (Le, basic material rates exclusive of
subsumed taxes) was issued on 13-10-2017. Further, it is observed that In
between the period of date of implementation of GST and the issue of
proceedings for Retormulated SoR 2017-18, agreements were concluded with
the estimates prepared with SoRs having subsumed taxes included.
In view of the above, the BoCEs have opined that it is reasonable to allow
the Contractors Profit and Overheads on subsumed taxes for the agreements
concluded after 01-07-2017 with estimates prepared with SoRs having
subsumed taxes included for the reason that there were no proper instructions
and guidelines on implementation of GST Act in works contracts during the
4transition period and the agencies quoted their rates based on the then
prepared estimates.
Finally, the BoCEs have recommended to allow the Contractors Profit and
Overhead charges on subsumed taxes for all the ongoing works as on 01-07-
2017 or thereafter for which agreements were concluded based on estimates
sanctioned with subsumed tax element included. ~ ,
Action: Engineer-in-Chief, Admn, WR Department
Agenda:4 : Request of the Engineer-in-Chief(R&B), SH& Managing Director, APRDC,
Vijayawada for adopting the block period of 10 years instead of 5 years for Long
Term Performance Based Maintenance Contracts(LTPBMC) works-Request to place
the matter in BOCEs and furnish the report to the Government.
The Government, vide memo No. ICD01-COOROMISC/2/2018 WR(Reforms) Dept
dt:06.11.2018, while enclosing the proposal of Engineer-in-Chief(R&B), SH & Managing
Director, APRDC, for adopting the block period of 10 years instead of 5 years for Long Term
Performance Based Maintenance Contracts(LTPBMC) works, have requested the Engineer-in-
Chief(IW), WR Dept., to place the matter in Board of Chief Engineers and furnish the
recommendations of BoCEs to the Government for taking further necessary action.
The Engineer-in-Chief(R&B)SH& Managing Director, APRDC, in his letter, has
submitted to the Government that the proposed 38 packages for a length of 4758 Km in all
13 districts are identified for maintaining roads under Long Term Performance Based
Maintenance Contract System (LTPBMC) with contract period of 5 years. In order to meet
the qualification criteria as per the G.O.Ms.no 94 (je the experience gained by the bidder
uring the last five years is being considered in case of similar works, physical quantities, Bid
‘Capacity etc)many of the agencies are not meeting the above criteria.
Further, the Engineer-in-Chief(R&B) SH& Managing Director, APRDC, has also
submitted that formerty, the Government, R&B Department, vide memo no.1351/R.1(2)/2014
dt:08.12.2014, have issued orders, for better participation of tenders for bridge works, by
considering last 10 years experience in the bidding process, instead of 5 years experience, in
respect of bridge works in R&B Department.In view of the above, the Engineer-in-Chief(R&B)SH& Managing Director, APRDC
has requested the Government for adopting the block period 10 years for LTPBMC works
instead of 5 years.
In this context, the Government has requested this office to examine the matter and
furnish the recommendation of BoCEs to the Government.
The same was discussed in the BoCEs meeting held on 22.11.2018, the members
after detailed discussions have opined that the above relaxation may be extended to all the
Departments and requested the members to come up with proper suggestions.
The proposal is placed again before the Board of Chief Engineers meeting held on
27.42.2108.
The members have discussed the matter in detail and observed that the
proposal of EnC(R&B), SH & Managing Director, APRDC for adopting block period
of 10 years instead of 5 years for the works of maintaining of roads under Long
Term Performance Based Maintenance Contract System(LTPBMCS) with contract.
period of 5 years is reasonable in order to enable many of the executing agencies
to meet the eligibility criteria and hence the BoCEs recommend to Government to
allow the block period of 10 years instead of 5 years for similar nature of works
for the LTPEMCS works and directed the Engineer-in-Chief(R&B), SH& Managing
Director, APRDC to act accordingly. we
Action: Engineer-in-Chief, R&B Department, SH & Managing
Director, APRDC
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Engineer-in-Chief(Admn),'WR'Dept., &
Chairman, BoCEs
Water Resources Department,ANNEXURE- I
MEMBERS PRESENT TO THE 11" BOARD OF CHIEF ENGINEERS MEETING
DURING THE YEAR 2018 HELD AT 3.00 PM ON 27-12-2018 IN THE
CONFERENCE HALL OF ENGINEER-IN-CHIEF(Admin), WATER RESOURCES
DEPARTMENT, CURRENCY NAGAR, VIJAYAWADA.
S.No | Name of the Engineer- in | Designation
-Chief / Chief Engineer |
1 Sri.K.Srinivas | Engineer-in-Chief(Admin), |
L Chairman of BOCEs, W R Dept.
{2 Sri.K.Srinivas ~~ | Chief Engineer, CDO, WR Dept,
| Vijayawada.
Sri.K.Varada Rajulu Chief Engineer, H.R.D
4 Sri. T.V.N-A.R Kumar Chief Engineer (Hydrology)
5 Sri.R.Muralinath Reddy Chief Engineer, NTR TGP, Tirupati
6 Sri.Ch.V.Soma Sekhar Chief Engineer, R&B
MDR
7 | Sri.P.Sreemannarayana Chief Engineer , NABARD
8 Sri K. Nayeemulla Chief Engineer (R&B), Building & RSW
9 Sri M.Sreemannarayana Chief Engineer APTIDCO
10 | Sri R.G. Krishna Reddy Chief Engineer APTIDCO |
|
i1 ‘Sri.B.Raja Gopla Rao Chief Engineer, A.P.Housing Board |