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Apakah Persoalan Pokok Sudah Terjawab ?

 ExpertTrader ·  Dec 27, 2011

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Dec 30, 2011 #141

zeman
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pening dah dok tilik price ni...x kembang x kuncup spread 4 dc brokar ni..hahah

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Dec 30, 2011 #142

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zeman said: 

pening dah dok tilik price ni...x kembang x kuncup spread 4 dc brokar ni..hahah

sebab broker 4 digit x peka dekat harga sbb tu fixed je spread..

broker 5 digit peka pada harga,spread kembang kucup..

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Dec 30, 2011 #143

zhary
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Betul tuh.. Sy rasa kita semua tak peka/faham soalan TT sebab ramai kt sini yg pakai broker 4digit dan
guna fixed spread. So.. utk lebih faham kena la try pakai broker regulated, 5 digit dan variable spread. Baru
boleh dapat jawapannya..

Dec 30, 2011 #144

ExpertTrader
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Sangat bagus perbincangan di sini - Tahniah semua

(nak baca satu-satu jap)

Dec 30, 2011 #145

ExpertTrader
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Benar, dan selak page belakang saya dah kata 5 digit.

zhary said: 

Betul tuh.. Sy rasa kita semua tak peka/faham soalan TT sebab ramai kt sini yg pakai broker 4digit dan guna fixed
spread. So.. utk lebih faham kena la try pakai broker regulated, 5 digit dan variable spread. Baru boleh dapat
jawapannya..

Dec 30, 2011 #146

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spread nie perbezaan ask and bid..

bila spread wider- perbezaan ask dan bid tu terlalu tinggi

bila spread narrow-perbezaan ask and bid tu rendah..

membawa maksud apa kepada pergerakkan harga,liquidity dan volatility

Dec 30, 2011 #147

ExpertTrader
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sangat benar

hentai88 said: 

sama seperti yg saya faham, harap2 betul lah. utk price gerak ke next level, semua kesanggupan menjual/membeli
yang ada kena dihabiskan atau diconsume dulu.sekiranya pasaran is liquid, permintaan yg byk boleh dioff-set dengan
penawaran yg ada. participants yg ramai boleh menjamin kos transaksi yg murah atau spread yg rendah.

real edge comes from real knowledge ((

Dec 30, 2011 #148

ExpertTrader
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Tentang Morubozu saya tak nak comment - itu kepandaian saudara.

Tentang Demand n Supply Broker dari Client nya sahaja atau dari Market -

Broker atau Market Maker deal dengan Market - kita tidak, kecuali True ECN.

Demand n Supply adalah datang dari semua Market Participants, cuma bila kita trade dengan Broker,
diaorang yang 'filter'kan untuk keuntungan dia -

Tu sebab baru 2 broker berlainan dah nampak chart pattern berlainan - sebab PILIHAN broker untuk
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either 'kembangkan spread' masa liquidity takde Register
atau 'buat spike price' untuk mencari STOP atau LIMIT
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Orders - mencari Liquidity providers

Jangan buat keputusan utk pening - sama2 kita bincang

osazizi said: 

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Dec 30, 2011 #149

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Terror said: 

spread nie perbezaan ask and bid..

bila spread wider- perbezaan ask dan bid tu terlalu tinggi

bila spread narrow-perbezaan ask and bid tu rendah..

membawa maksud apa kepada pergerakkan harga,liquidity dan volatility

ianya berlaku pada floating spread account sahaja..

Dec 30, 2011 #150

ExpertTrader
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Ini ulasan saya :

Dalam keadaan High Liquidity di mana Spread adalah kecil, Demand dan juga Supply adalah dalam
keadaan Balance. Di sini, Market Maker tidakLog
'memainkan'
in peranannya sebab Liquidity dah ada.
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Time Low Liquidity di mana Spread di besarkan untuk 'mengejar' itu Liquidity maka masa inilah Volatile -
Market Maker mencari mangsa - masa inilah kita boleh tengok sekejap Spike ke atas, sekejap Spike ke
bawah - masa ni kita kena Trade macam kita ni Broker/Market Maker -

Di masa Time Low Liquidity nilah Ramai Trader 'tertipu' dengan 'gerakan- gerakan' --- oiih nak turun ni -
masuukkk sell - exactly lepas masuk , lepas tu, taruk Stop Loss kat atas beberap pip dari 'last resistance' -
2-3 saat lepas masuk, 'gerakan' yang kelihatan hebat tadi, Baik PUNYA dia melantun balik - 'takde' supply
dah kat situ - dia gi pulak tempat Stop Loss kat atas -

So, BIASAKAN dengan Trade semasa Low Liquidity ini - masa bila Low Liquidity ? Masa Market Participants
tak ramai -

Yang ni boleh kira - saya dah biasa kan - (yang satu lagi, saya pun tak biasa - nanti cerita)

Tentang statement ni 'high liquidity/market mover masuk = volatility rendah, spread kecik'

Ianya lebih tepat jika digantikan 'Market Participants banyak masuk' dari 'Market Movers' masuk

Market Movers adalah 'saya punya term' sendiri rasanya jika di google pun takde definitionnya di tulis - ini
adalah term yang saya guna UNTUK membezakan ANTARA gerakan dari Market Makers yang palsu
dengan Market Movers yang boleh bergerak sehingga 100, 200, 300, 400 pips atau lebih, sekali swing - di
situlah bermulanya 'trend' pada orang yang mengkaji 'trend' - bila Market Movers masuk - merekalah
menggerakkan Price dari Old Place High Liquidity kepada New Place High Liquidity -

pergh padat..

ringgit_maker said: 

setakat ini yang saya paham,

high liquidity/market mover masuk = low volatile / spread kecik

low liquidity/market maker masuk = high volatile / spread besar

tp masih belum konfom sebab perlu di eksperimenkan dulu pemahaman di atas sebelum di bawah ke level
seterusnya...

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