‘2108/2020, Dyno is marketing hype - (HR) Hajes Racing About Service _— Articles Projects. = Contact ~—Sitemap No Gain Search this website Most important informations Our Philosophy How to NOT kill your car HR maintenance procedure You are here: Home / BHG / Dyno is marketing hype Dyno is marketing hype Everybody loves dyno graphs and performance figures. After all, HP sells cars. Based on my experience, I do not wonder ~ most ask me for unreal results such as 200PS from 140PS factory engine..they even get upset if I share facts about so called chiptuning hitps:hajes-racing.comlenidyne-e-marketing-hypel mn21082020 Dyno is marketing hype - (HR) Hajas Racing About Service _— Articles Projects. = Contact ~—Sitemap PLEASE READ WARNINGS BEFORE YOU PROCEED !! IF YOU FIND INFORMATIONS USEFUL, PLEASE CONSIDER DONATION. SUMMARY + most chiptuners feed engines with artificially cool air — you will never get IAT 20°C in real life (perhaps in winter at -20°C), especially if you are spi) driver or even worst..track day guy. hitps:hajes-racing.comlenidyne-e-marketing-hypel 2m‘2108/2020, Dyno is marketing hype - (HR) Hajes Racing About Service _— Articles Projects. = Contact ~—Sitemap various losses that lead to inconsistency and imaginary results rolling road session lasts up to 30 seconds and it doesn't reflect real full load fun for spirited drivers if you cannot drive flat out, chiptuning is not for you in first place I want to see some real life simulation of full load dyno session lasting at least 10 minutes no heat soaking effect VW GOLF II. 4x4 1.9TDI 130PS to 300PS by DIE... Top right corner: first number is ambient temp (34°C) and second is IAT (20°C) Chassis dynamometer fundamentals hitps:hajes-racing.comlenidyne-e-marketing-hypel amt2108/2020 Dyno is marketing hype - (HR) Hajas Racing About Service _— Articles Projects. = Contact ~—Sitemap From all those poor misinformed fools there was only one guy that confirmed my field tests — excessive fueling reduces torque in long term. It is sad day for human kind if one from hundreds humanoids have brain. Above by mentioned guy pushed his car to the limit more than usual 30 seconds dyno session and confirmed effects of torque limiting due heat soaking and overheating. Perfect chassis dyno would read IAT, knows wheel diameter and pressure thus compensating for various wheel diameters. If you can read IAT, you can control “real” ambient temperature because no factory/upgraded IC has got 100+ % efficiency. IAT is always at least +10°C above ambient temperature and +30 to 40°C at full load. hitps:tajes-racing.comfenidyne-is-marksting-hype! emt‘2108/2020, About Service _— Articles Projects. = Contact ~—Sitemap If you increase IHP on dyno, it is logical you need aerodynamics on 61HP racing car, no? You have been warned IAT/air density is main reason for engine power loss — for example an engine produces 140HP @ 40°C IAT (40°C is usual IAT for 140HP TDi engine at full load for short periods of time such as acceleration) but you have got 150HP @ 20°C IAT (possible over winter at sub zero temps) Of course it goes both ways...if you increase heat, as is usual byproduct of poor ECU calibration, you suddenly hit IAT 50-60°C and you have lost over 6% of torque/power. hitps:hajes-racing.comlenidyne-e-marketing-hypel mm‘2108/2020, Dyno is marketing hype - (HR) Hajes Racing About Service _— Articles Projects. = Contact ~—Sitemap Thave not seen any dyno that is hooked up to OBD diagnostic port and reads live engine sensor data. Which means, dyno is just wild estimate of wheel power output. Since there is many variables in play, one wonders how you can trust results? Iknow little bit about combustion theory, thermodynamics and MAF modelling, Dyno is basically similar system that is guessing engine power output. Chassis dyno aka rolling road simply guesses power output based on wheel radial speed, ambient temperature/humidity. There is major flaws though: + there is no losses (transmission, tire pressure, IC efficiency, MAF) + transmission and final drive issues - somewhere between 3rd and 4th gear is 11 gearing « wheel diameter, tire grip and effective chassis/suspension * not to mention engine is fed by constant cool air flow PSA #02: HOW REAL ARE DYNO NUMBERS? (T... hitps:hajes-racing.comlenidyne-e-marketing-hypel‘2108/2020, Dyno is marketing hype - (HR) Hajes Racing About Service _— Articles Projects. = Contact ~—Sitemap I was initially looking for a hardcore dyno run where someone pushes TDi at full load for at least 5 minutes where EGT limiter and heat soaking kicks in but I found only above by video, which supports my theory. Perfect chassis dyno Imagine Hilda HR I compared to “same” car with same ECU calibration — Hilda would be clear winner because she has got rally suspension and minimal losses in transmission. It is said there is about 5% transmission losses but normal car users usually have worn dampers or believe wide tires are better. As you can see in above by video, it is very easy to fool dyno electronic and provide “more” power to customers. I am not surprised normals want it all, I see it by myself. Irecall a hot discussion on Briskoda forum (before they banned me for brutal honesty of course ROFL) where I shared knowledge about AFR. I brought it upon myself though ~ Briskoda is sponsored by commercial chiptuners, occupied by tExperts and last thing they need to know is how everything really works. hitps:hajes-racing.comlenidyne-e-marketing-hypel si2108/2020 Dyno is marketing hype - (HR) Hajes Racing About Service _— Articles Projects. = Contact ~—Sitemap Chassis dyno has no real value because even same car on same day has different results every time you do some dyno run, Sole purpose is marketing because love to brag about theoretical power gains for 30 seconds. One wonders if “30 second” power is just coincidence with their usual bed performance. Beautiful things don't seek attention. Iam not surprised though, if you suffer from SPS and have 2 cm penis...you need at least wide tires, aerodynamics and 300HP on paper...then you do only traffic- light-racing and shopping...zest of time, occupying SocNet and whine about small dick © Leave a Reply Your email address will not be published. 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