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Visiting the National Library and Archives

Egyptian Arabic transcript:

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English translation:

Woman behind camera: Tell me about university life.

Man: University life was for me, I mean, university life was for me, I mean, a normal
life, I mean. I entered the university first as a stranger ….
Woman behind camera: Ummm.

Man: … regarding my relations to my female colleagues, I mean. It was, somewhat, it

was, ah … it was, ah … I mean, not so close to each other, I mean.

Woman behind camera: Ummm.

Man: That’s it. Then, after that, I started to get used to them, as we are the same age, I
mean. I missed talking to women in the first place, I mean, or to have relationships with
women. Then, I started getting to know them, one after another after another.

Woman behind camera: The university, your university, what is its name?

Man: Ah … the University of Menia. I studied at the University of Menia, at the College
of Arts, Department of Archives and Libraries, in the branch of Information Technology.

Woman behind camera: What did you study there?

Man: I studied in that branch, I studied the archives and libraries generally, I mean. What
libraries are, and how we organize them, and how we can make a good library that’s
electronic, I mean; ah …how we organize the books, how we can do indexing and
checking … ah … to facilitate the path to information for those who need them.

Woman behind camera: During the fourth year, you went on a trip with your friends to
Cairo.

Man: There was a trip in the third year ….

Woman behind camera: Ummm.

Man: And there was a trip in the second year. And there was a trip also in the fourth
year, I mean, ah, this trip was a scientific trip, and it was the first trip I went on, I mean. It
was, ah … a trip that included young men and women, and it was divided into two parts:
a scientific trip and a fun part. After we finished the scientific part … it was the National
Library and Archives. Ah … we saw over there at the National Library and Archives how
they arrange books and …ah … how … the United States of America contributes with a
great rule at the National Library and Archives; ah … and they use experts from there.
And they arrange books in a very organized way. You go, first, to the computer, you find
the book and its number, and then you enter the room to [see] the person in charge. The
person in charge shows you the book, and you bring it and take a look at it. After you
take a look at it, you go back to the person in charge, and he will return the book to its
place again -- that’s it. And if you want, for instance, to search for your subject, you go to
the computer and write the title of the subject, and it will bring you all the books that deal
with this subject. Ah … I mean, honestly, it’s a very good library, I mean.
Woman behind camera: Did you have any comments about the National Library and
Archives?

Man: Yes, the National Library and Archives … there were things, some things, I mean,
ah … almost very scarce. Ah, the books and the documents and so on lack preservation. I
mean, there are many documents that need to be preserved. And the microfilm and the
clerks over there are not competent to finish this huge part of the job. I mean, annually,
they can do 240 documents, and this is not, not, I mean, not good. Ah, the National
Library and Archives is filled with insects, filled with flies, rats, and, I mean, the
Egyptian heritage is considered entirely destroyed or eroded at the National Library and
Archives. I mean, most of … there is a positive side to it, but, at the same time, I mean,
there is complete devastation of the Egyptian heritage.

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