Pcmcia-Socket-Startup Hangs Kernel

29/06/2020 186164 – pcmcia-socket-startup hangs kernel
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Bug 186164 - pcmcia-socket-startup hangs kernel
Keywords: Reported: 2006-03-21 22:46 UTC by

Matthew Daniel
Status: CLOSED RAWHIDE Modified: 2007-11-30 22:11 UTC (History)
Alias: None CC List: 20 users (show)
Product: Fedora Fixed In Version:

Doc Type: Bug Fix
Component:
pcmciautils  
Doc Text:
Clone Of:
Version: 5
Environment:
Hardware: i386 Last Closed: 2007-04-02 10:11:20 UTC
OS: Linux Type: ---
Priority: medium
Dependent Products:
Severity: high
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Harald Hoyer
QA Contact:
Docs Contact:
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Duplicates (4): 185989 186386 187798 187956
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Depends On:
Blocks:
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
Attachments (Terms of Use)

sysreport output (286.10 KB, no flags Details
application/x-bzip)
2006-04-01 22:59 UTC, Michael J Knox
Sysreport of my PC (270.54 KB, no flags Details

application/x-bzip)
2006-04-03 03:52 UTC, Atalibio
Schneider
udev hang - sysreport (356.39 no flags Details

KB, application/x-bzip)
2006-08-08 16:49 UTC, Ken Blair
Abend messages while no flags Details

attempting to load 12c-savage4
module (3.58 KB, text/plain)
2006-12-24 13:22 UTC, Marcus O.
White
Add an attachment (proposed patch, testcase, etc.)
Matthew Daniel 2006-03-21 22:46:27 UTC Description
Description of problem:
This bugzilla issue is being created to track the progress
of the following
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=186164 1/23
issue, as reported in the lists:
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-
March/msg00456.html
After a fresh install of FC5 (FC-5-i386-DVD.iso) on my Sony

Vaio VGN-AX580G, I
am experiencing a hard hang after seeing the "Starting
udev" text. I qualify
"hard hang" in that the system does not respond to any
keystrokes (i.e. CTRL-C,
CTRL-\, etc) and the numlock and capslock lights no longer
function.
Version-Release number of selected component (if

applicable):
Stock udev from FC5 DVD
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Install FC5, accepting all defaults
2. Reboot
3. Observe hang
Russell Strong 2006-03-22 00:45:52 UTC Comment 1
I'm seeing the exact same problem on a Toshiba Tecra S2.

FC5t3 did not have
this problem for me.
Matthew Daniel 2006-03-22 02:11:29 UTC Comment 2
I used the rescue CD to mount my new system and changed

/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit to
"sh -x /sbin/start_udev", in an effort to see what's [not]
happening.
Here is the last lines on the console before freeze:

---8<----
loop=176
test -d /dev/.udev/queue
usleep 100000
--->8----
As you can imagine, there were lots of "loop=177 ..."
friends above it.
I thought I'd report my findings in case that helps anyone,

or if those CC'd on
this bug want to try on their system, too.
Russell Strong 2006-03-22 04:10:51 UTC Comment 3
Added acpi=off to the kernel cmdline and was able to get

past the lockup.
Harald Hoyer 2006-03-22 08:34:31 UTC Comment 4
you could also boot from the rescue CD and set in
/etc/udev/udev.conf
udev_log="debug"
I suspect, that a kernel module is causing the hangup, so

look out for the last
"modprobe" to be executed.
Benjamin Thery 2006-03-22 14:18:33 UTC Comment 5
Same problem here on a NEC P550 laptop.

udev hangs at first boot after install.
And I confirm that added "acpi=off" option solved the udev
hang.
Unfortunately the kernel crashes a bit later (general
protection fault).
But it seems to be another problem.
I edited /etc/udev/udev.conf and set: udev_log="debug"

The last log message I see before the hang is:
udevd-event[1104]: wait_for_sysfs: wait for

'/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb4/4-0:1.0/bus' for
20 mseconds
any "modprobe" message before that?
(In reply to comment #7)

> any "modprobe" message before that?
I'm not trying to be naive about this, but what is the

recommended way to
capture the console messages since once it locks up, the
scrollback is gone?
I do not have a serial port on this machine, otherwise I'd

ask about booting
over serial line (I've heard that's possible, anyway).
I tried the acpi=off as suggested, and I, too, receive a

kernel panic but I
cannot confirm its impact on udev as my system never makes
it that far (with
acpi=off).
I also edited the udev.conf and there were no modprobe

messages on the screen at
hang-time. If there were modprobe messages at all, they
were shoved off-screen
by the plethora of udevd-event messages (similar to comment
#6).
H.J. Lu 2006-03-22 20:38:04 UTC Comment 9
I have the same problem on the identical hardware with FC5

as described in
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-
March/msg00456.html
ok, next step... comment out all modprobe lines from:

/etc/udev/rules.d/*
try to boot
I played a bit with udev rules this morning:
1. I commented all lines containing modprobes in *.rules

files:
--> it doesn't solve the problem. udev is still hanging.
2. I removed some udev rules file. I remembered pcmcia

daemon made
this same laptop crash at boot with FC4, I add some
problem with
the sound card too and I don't own a Wacom tablet:
pcmcia.rules,
wacom.rules and alsa.rules removed.
--> problem seems to be solved! It seems PCMCIA on this
laptop is
supported.
3. I added back wacom.rules and alsa.rules to confirm the

above
statement:
--> udev is ok, but HAL daemon crashes later in boot
process
4. I removed alsa.rules again.

--> udev still ok and HAL daemon starts without problem.
Conclusion:
PCMCIA seems to be the cause for udev hang.

There is also a problem with alsa but it may be unrelated.
this is NOT an UDEV hang... this is the KERNEL which hangs
...
please try to isolate the line in 60-pcmcia.rules, which

crashes the kernel.
*** Bug 186386 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug.

***

> this is NOT an UDEV hang... this is the KERNEL which
hangs ...
When I say 'udev hangs', I only mean "the boot process

halts after the 'Starting
udev' message is displayed on screen and the machine seems
to hang".
No need to yell, I'm no specialist. :)
I'm just trying to help and make this kernel boot cleanly
on my laptop.
As asked in comment #13, I re-installed 60-pcmcia.rules and

tried to find the
line which causes of the hang:
- comments every ACTION lines
- loop:
- uncomment one more ACTION line
- reboot
ACTIONs 1 + 2 : OK
ACTIONs 1 + 2 + 3 : udev OK, but hald crashes
(may be hald needs action 4 if 3 is
executed)
(I can provide the dmesg output if
needed)
ACTIONs 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 : udev OK, hald OK
ACTIONS 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 : machine hangs
Hope this helps.
To avoid any confusion, action 5 is the last one in 60-

pcmcia.rules. It is:
# if this is a PCMCIA socket which needs a resource

database,
# pcmcia-socket-startup sets it up
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="pcmcia_socket", \
RUN+="/sbin/pcmcia-socket-startup"
I realized it wasn't very clear in my previous comment.
ok...
could you try to run as root:

# /sbin/pcmcia-socket-startup
if the laptop hangs, could you try to update pcmciautils to

ftp://people.redhat.com/harald/pcmciautils-012-1.i386.rpm
and rerun:
# /sbin/pcmcia-socket-startup
Andre 2006-03-23 14:09:46 UTC Comment 19
I've tried it. Laptop hangs.

Downloaded pcmciautils. Now it doesn't hang.
As expected, running /sbin/pcmcia-socket-startup as root

hangs the computer.
I installed your updated package and ran succesfully the

new
/sbin/pcmcia-socket-startup: no crash.
I checked that every lines in 60-pcmcia.rules that no lines

are commented.
It rebooted like a charm: no hang.
It seems you found the cause.
(BTW, I can't tell you if pcmcia actually works as I have

no pcmcia card at
disposable here.)
Cool! Good News! Thanks for all the help!
ok, please also test:

ftp://people.redhat.com/harald/pcmciautils/012-0.FC5.1
for those using pcmciautils-012-1.i386.rpm:

# rpm -Uvh --oldpackage
No problem here with pcmciautils-012-0.FC5.1.i386.rpm.

This rpm seems as good as the previous one.

***
Please test:
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-
March/msg01542.html
I've installed pcmciautils-012-0.FC5.2.i386.rpm from

comment #25.
It works well on my laptop.
Jacek Piskozub 2006-03-24 17:21:24 UTC Comment 27
Same story (problem and workaround) with Acer Travelmate

4100.
This thing must be a total showstopper for an average user.
Richard Körber 2006-03-24 18:03:23 UTC Comment 28
After installing the RPM from comment #18, my Acer

Travelmate 4600 boots up
fine, too. Thanks!
E Mair 2006-03-25 18:10:57 UTC Comment 29
udev freezes here as well, and this is not on a laptop with

PCMCIA.
If I supply the "acpi=off" switch through GRUB, then the

freeze won't happen,
but udev will complain about "No devices found" and there's
a message saying
"ERROR: No arguments allowed with -i". There are no
apparent ill effects from
these messages, as far as I can tell as a mere user. Not
other than losing ACPI
functionality, that is.
I don't know if this could be relevant, but when I first

tried to do an FC4 -> 5
upgrade, and later when I out of frustration wiped
everything and made a fresh
install, I got strange messages seemingly pertaining to
some RAID issue. That's
weird because I don't have any RAID controller. The
message, right before the
mid-installation lockups, was "ERROR: pdc: wrong # of
devices in RAID set"
followed by something about "pdc_<some seemingly random
combination of letters>".
My affected hardware:
Asus A7M-266D mobo (AMD-760MPX) w. 2x Athlon MP, 1 GB RAM
Fedora on sda, connected to a Sym 53C896-based SCSI
controller
hda (Windows) + hdb (storage) connected to on-board IDE
(AMD-768)
CMI8738 on-board audio
VT6105 [Rhine-III] eth0
3c905C eth1
NEC USB2 PCI
Radeon 9600XT (mis-identified as RV350)
USB mouse, trackball, joystick, scanner, webcam
PS/2 keyboard with built-in serial touchpad
Ronald Warsow 2006-03-27 01:33:45 UTC Comment 30
first, i got no problem with udev or pcmcia and maybe it is

not the right place
here, but i can confirm, that i see the line
"ERROR: No arguments allowed with -i" in fc5-devel since 2-
3 month and in FC5.
but only on my amd 64 with i386 and x64_86 packages, not on
an pentium 3 or my
notebook.
i search the bugzilla for a while, daily reading the
mailing lists, no results,
only a discussion/bug about env in fc4-test?.
it seemed that i am quite alone or most people boot with

rhgb.
so, since this line doesn't affect my work and remembering
the discussion about
the "reorganisation" of bugzilla and the slip of the fc5
release day,i decided
to wait for fc5.
i still see that line.
i search my /etc, no results.
i played with the thought to fill a bug, but on what
component ???
nevertheless, FC5 is quit good !!!

thx to the developers, (maybe) the whole day
hearing/reading, what is NOT
functioning. i know !
i think, the last 2 sentences have to be broadcasted or

duplicated in, maybe,
the bugzilla, but on what component ...
valery brasseur 2006-03-27 07:32:33 UTC Comment 31
on my thoshiba M30x : default install hang on udev.

after apply the new pcmcia rpm from comment #18 : now it
boot
but hald coredump and now computer is unable to start X11
!!
I remove the hald start from init ... and it boot's OK
(without hald ;-)
valery brasseur 2006-03-27 07:33:14 UTC Comment 32
on my thoshiba M30x : default install hang on udev.

after apply the new pcmcia rpm from comment #18 : now it
boot
but hald coredump and now computer is unable to start X11
!!
I remove the hald start from init ... and it boot's OK
(without hald ;-)
Gianluca Sforna 2006-03-27 08:42:46 UTC Comment 33
Confirmed for my Acer Travlemate 8202 WLMi.

The rpm in testing solves the problem.
Thanks a lot
Doug Pettit 2006-03-31 18:44:30 UTC Comment 34
Let me add just a twist to this problem. I installed FC5

earlier this week. Was
running FC4 just fine. FC5 installed with no problem and I
was able to run it
for several days. Then, one morning, I got the exact same
'starting udev:'
problem......after being successful for days that is. I re-
installed FC4 and
was not able to boot. Then, I reinstalled FC5 and witnessed
the same udev
situation. However, I left the machine for at least 3
hours, and when I
returned, the machine had booted and was at a user prompt.
I logged on fine,
but the machine is now running slower than my old 8086 DOS
machine.
Dell Inspiron 4000.....Any thoughts or ideas?
Doug
GP 2006-04-01 16:32:57 UTC Comment 35
I see the same problem on a new hp dv800t CTO laptop.

At the starting udev prompt, the system hangs (completely
unresponsive...can
only power down by holding power button)
Seems to happen when udevstart is called from the

/sbin/start_udev script.
Commenting this out allows the system to boot (obviously
not very well without
the /dev/ entries)
Will run strace or enable udev logging at a later time.
Also seeing a bunch of PCI allocation errors just before

the "...press "I" for
interactive startup" is displayed, along with a temperature
error (0 degrees).
Maybe there is a problem with the drivers for intel 945pm

chipset on this machine?
Was able to use FC4 (final) with a different problem

(pcmcia service would hand
in a similar manner), but with that service disabled, was
able to get everything
but the accelerated graphics to work (although the generic
'nv' driver looked
good enough for now...).
Michael J Knox 2006-04-01 19:26:53 UTC Comment 36
This is still an issue for myself. I have removed the

pcmciautils package
completely. I am not using a laptop.
Removing the udev package allowed my machine to boot to a

bash login
(obviously with errors). I will try to get a sysreport of
the machine
Created attachment 127189 [details]

sysreport output
I have installed udev from FC4 and now my system boots to

the desktop, my sound
card is nowhere to be seen, but I will take what I can get
for now.
Let me know if any further info is required.
Mark van Rossum 2006-04-02 12:13:24 UTC Comment 39
I also find it hangs on boot.

- upgrading pcmciautils did not help
- kernel-2.6.16-1.2080_FC5 has the bug
- kernel-2.6.15-1.2054_FC5 is fine
Hardware: IBM T42p
Mark van Rossum 2006-04-02 23:30:56 UTC Comment 40
More information on my t42p report above:
In my laptop there is a COnexant HSF modem. Downloading the

stacksize=16k kernel
from Linuxant fixed it.
It looks to me that there is a whole slew of potential

causes for this bug.
Atalibio Schneider 2006-04-03 03:52:18 UTC Comment 41

Sysreport of my PC
I hope this can help
I have same problem here.

I use a normal desktop (not notebook) with Asus K8V-X
mainboard, Geforce Fx5200
with 256MB memory, 512 MB DDR RAM and 80 Gb PATA hard disk.
The systemm boots when i use the
pci=off
acpi-off
both options in kernel boot line.

Obviously, boot without AGP and PCI devices.
At this, when i clear /etc/udev/rules.d/ files, the system

boots in text mode.
No graphic support available.
Look at sysreport file attached.
Peter Walsham (Axomic Ltd) 2006-04-03 10:02:00 UTC Comment 43
I confirm upgrading pcmciautils fixes the udev problem for

me:
Problem
============
Sony Vaio VGN FS115S
Fresh Fedora Core 5 install
Kernel 2.6.15-1.2054_FC5
On boot it would not get past "Starting udev"
It would boot if I set the kernel flag acpi=off
But no access to battery status, a real pain on a laptop!
Solution
=============
rpm -Uvh pcmciautils-012-0.FC5.1.i386.rpm
ftp://people.redhat.com/harald/pcmciautils/012-0.FC5.1
Now boots fine and everything is working
Since we have multiple indications of success, do we want

to mark this bug as FIXED?
No, we have people that do not have a fix. Like myself for
example
Me too.
By the way, I configured my X Server successfully, but my

other devices doesnÂ´t
work.
i hope someone help us.
Regards.
Doug Pettit 2006-04-03 19:06:04 UTC Comment 47
I agree with Michael Knox.....we need a definitive answer

before this should be
closed. Unfortunately, some of us, (like me), don't have
the Linux savy to
employ these 'workarounds'. I have tried some of the
remedies posted, but still
have problems. I am re-installing FC4 on my laptop as we
speak.
Doug
Daniel Qarras 2006-04-03 19:20:58 UTC Comment 48
FWIW, the pcmciautils-012-0.FC5.1.i386.rpm package solved

my problem with Acer
Aspire 1692. The report is at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=187798
and is clearly a
duplicate of this one.

***
For those who have still problems, _please_ open a seperate

bug report along
with your possible workarounds.

***
Robin Taylor 2006-04-10 12:13:16 UTC Comment 52
I found this problem and after a lot of reinstall's I found

that it didnt hang
when the monitor was plugged into the onboard video port,
and the video card
removed. Im not sure if the card wasn't supported but it
worked fine with FC4
Robin Taylor: which video card?
Eduardo N. H. 2006-04-11 02:07:19 UTC Comment 54
try disabling selinux by pressing a on grub and appending

selinux=disabled to
the kernel parameters. For some reason selinux came with
enforced policy and the
labels on the files were wrong and boot stopped.
Robin Taylor 2006-04-12 19:19:29 UTC Comment 55
The card is a "Sparkle 8MB PCI SIS 6326", it wouldnt

install in graphical form
either, the X server wouldnt load
Rickey Moore 2006-04-23 19:25:22 UTC Comment 56
I've had the udev bug since I did the yum upgrade thing, so
I blamed myself for
awhile. Mine complains about missing /etc/fstab.sys. I
don't beleieve I recall
having that file in the 'old days', so it's a new one on
me. <g>
I'm trying the pcmcia rpm thingie, but it doesn't seem

likely that it would be
the problem, for me. Ric
Still no relief... how do I generate /etc/fstab.sys? The

pcmcia update did not
help. What do you need of me to get some sort of
resolution? I want to help... Ric
Rickey Moore, I don't know of any /etc/fstab.sys... What is

this? Where does
this come from?
Ben Franklin 2006-05-13 23:29:11 UTC Comment 59
Having similar problems with Lenovo N100. Haven't tried the

RPMs yet - not quite
sure how to add rpms when the computer doesn't boot.

> Having similar problems with Lenovo N100. Haven't tried
the RPMs yet - not quite
> sure how to add rpms when the computer doesn't boot.
I booted with the installer disc and activated rescue mode

(linux rescue).
If your network card works in rescue mode, just do a
"chroot /mnt/sysimage" at
the prompt and then a "yum update pcmciautils"
After this, the boot should work
Ben Franklin 2006-05-17 04:10:24 UTC Comment 61
Yup - that worked. Now the Lenovo N100 no longer hangs on

udev. Thanks.
I tried this, yum reports that I already have this

installed... so no relief. :(
This bug report has practically developed its own forum

here. Can we assign this
is someone else or _close_it_ so I'm not getting CC'ed on
all this tech support?
Thanks,
-- /v\atthew
Mattijs Riekerk 2006-05-25 00:50:56 UTC Comment 64

> try disabling selinux by pressing a on grub and appending
selinux=disabled to
> the kernel parameters. For some reason selinux came with
enforced policy and
the
> labels on the files were wrong and boot stopped.
This solved my long delay at starting udev...
More info about that bug here:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=189856
Thanks
Rob Linklater 2006-05-27 04:16:11 UTC Comment 65
Starting udev on my system results in a shutdown, as if

I switched off the
power, immediate with no warning. It is a pentium 4, 3.2
GHz, 1 Gig ram, Soyo
motherboard, two large hard drives, USB optical wheel
mouse, LCD screen.
I shall try the above fixes, will keep in touch as to
progress.
TTYL,
Rob Linklater.
I think the initial bug report was fixed with the pcmcia
utils update, so the
bug IMHO should be closed as resolved.
Most of the other comments should belong to other (new?)
bugs
RE: #58
Sorry, missed that question. When I boot the screen says
/etc/fstab.sys missing.
Dmesg nor /var/log/messages say nothing about this.
Strange. I do have /etc/fstab.
The "fstab.sys" problem is not a udev problem... you may

google a bit and find,
e.g.:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?
p=2191333
Rickey Moore, your problem is in the initrd.
I erased 60-pcmcia.rules and alsa.rules in my rules.d

subdirectory, but my
system still shuts down when it reachea the " starting udev
" line. Will
downloading the fix file work if this test didn't?
I am going to try restoring FC1 for now, I miss having my
Linux up and having
to use WinXP to do everything. I'll watch for a future fix
of this bug, so that
I can try upgrading again in the future.
TTYL.
Rob, please have a look at:

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-
March/msg01542.html
Thanks Harald...I've re-installed Fedora Core 1 and it's

working well, although
all my email addresses, etc are gone. I looked at the above
message, the fix it
refers to is no longer available. The oldest file is
April...
Anyway, I have a desktop unit with no PCMCIA stuff on it.
Thanks for trying to help.
TTYL,
Rob.
oops, should be:

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2006-
April/msg00007.html
Rozak 2006-07-01 21:04:13 UTC Comment 74

> oops, should be:
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-
list/2006-April/msg00007.html
Still doesnt fix it for me. Running on a T-series Lifebook

from Fujitsu-Siemens.
Followed the instructions for moving aside the start up
script, that worked, got
a full system up, patched pcmciautils as described,
rebooted and still get:
Starting udev: Wait timeout. Will continue in the

background [FAILED]
Then a hang. Holding in the power button is the only way

out.
Rozak, you have to play around with the ioports in

/etc/pcmcia/config.opts and
exclude the port which makes problems.
Gabriel M. Elder 2006-07-21 19:32:25 UTC Comment 76
AFAICT, this is a kernel-level issue or a bug in udev. I've

got a pci wireless
NIC (00:08.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group
Ltd. 88w8335
[Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03) 00:08.0 0200:
11ab:1faa (rev 03)) in a
desktop workstation that <b><i>intermittently</i><b> (even
better) hangs when
trying to boot kernel-2.6.17-1.2157_FC5. It gets to the
point where it's
starting udev then this after about 20 seconds:
Starting udev: Wait timeout. Will continue in the
backgroun[FAILED]
and appears to completely hang. acpi=off didn't help.
Same exact hardware, and i can boot just fine via kernel-
2.6.15-1.2054_FC5
(haven't tried any other kernels yet). Then when i shut
down and try to boot
into the most recent kernel, it happens again. When i pull
the card out i can
boot fine via most recent kernel. This kinda bites. I'm
hard-pressed to envision
a simple workaround at this point. I think i'll try the
previous kernel release
for now and see what kind of results i get.
Gabriel M. Elder 2006-07-22 14:14:31 UTC Comment 77
I am able to boot with kernel-2.6.16-1.2133_FC5.i686.rpm,

but every kernel
revision package after this one seems to manifest the udev
hang problem.
Hopefully this helps narrow down the source (pun intended:)
of the problem.
Gabriel, kernel problem with the module.
Ken Blair 2006-08-08 16:49:24 UTC Comment 79

udev hang - sysreport
Ken Blair 2006-08-08 16:51:37 UTC Comment 80
Hi
I get same problem - Starting udev .... [FAILED] then hang
- on desktop
workstation. kernel-2.6.16-1.2133_FC5.x86_64 is fine, later
kernels
(e.g kernel-2.6.17-1.2157_FC5.x86_64) give problem.
Attaching sysreport.
Thanks.
Don Levey 2006-08-23 16:52:56 UTC Comment 81
I ran into this udev/kernel hang problem. My machine:
Acer Aspire 3102WLMi

AMD Sempron 3200+
ATI Radeon 1100 video
512 MB RAM
Internal 802.11 b/g wireless, internal card reader, etc.
I tried the solution stated here (updating pcmciautils) and

that did not help.
However, I figured that as long as I could chroot via the
rescue CD, I might as
well update everything while I was at it. I simply did a
'yum update' to the
stock FC5 install. *THIS* worked; I am now able to boot.
I realise that with
such a sledgehammer solution it isn't possible to determine
which package
update did the trick, but in my case it wasn't pcmciautils.
patrik 2006-08-26 16:12:47 UTC Comment 82
I ran also into the udev/kernel problem
My system is:
Fedora Core 5 x86_64 on an Acer Aspire 5102WLMi
AMD Turion 64 x2
ATI Radeon Xpress 1100 (fc recognize it as a Radeon Xpress
M200)
I tried to install the recommended pcmciautils package

above without success.
Then I downloaded the kernel from updates on
fedora.redhat.com and install it
under rescue mode (chroot /mnt/sysimage) with the command
rpm -i
kernel-2.6.x-x.x86_64.FC5.rpm (or something like that). I
reboot with success.
Patrik Andersson
Darren Cook 2006-09-13 01:40:16 UTC Comment 83
(Just another data point if someone is trying to track down
this problem.)
I upgraded to FC5, from FC4, a week ago, and it has been

running fine, yet in
this morning's boot it hung just after the udev message.
Yesterday's only change was re-detecting the sound card (I

have two sound cards,
an onboard via82xx which has never worked (hardware problem
I believe) but seems
to keep becoming the default, and a cmipci). However
removing alsa.rules from
/etc/udev/rules.d made no difference (I also removed the
pcmciautils rpm - this
is a desktop machine - and that also made no difference).
The fix was to add acpi=off to the grub boot settings.

I'm using 2.6.17-1.2174_FC5 kernel.
HTH - if you want more information let me know.
Kazutoshi Morioka 2006-09-15 09:05:05 UTC Comment 84
Today I experienced udev hang after system crash.

I added "udevtimeout=3" to kernel commandline.
The udev timeouted, and system started.
Once the system was started, the system was started well
without "udevtimeout=3".
Darren Cook 2006-09-20 12:36:40 UTC Comment 85
Additional info (following from comment #83): acpi=off only

worked for a couple
of boots. Then I had to use "acpi=off apm=off" to get it to
boot.
Then after I installed the kernel update (2.6.17-
1.2187_FC5) even that didn't work.
The solution I found was to remove 51-hotplug.rules from
/etc/udev/rules.d/.
After that FC5 boots, even without the "acpi=off apm=off"
parameters; I've had 6
perfect reboots in a row - a personal best since installing
FC5 ;-).
Incidentally my USB scanner still gets auto-detected when I
plug it in, so it
doesn't seem hotplug.rules was required? Or it is for some
other functionality I
have no need for?
If you need more info let me know the commandline to run.
Anshul 2006-09-23 10:32:54 UTC Comment 86
I have the same problem - system hangs after " Starting

udev: ". My PC has the
foll. config -
AMD Athlon64 2800+ processor
Seagate SATA hard disk
ATI Radeon X200 (onboard)
Joerg Schmidt 2006-10-06 09:32:28 UTC Comment 87

Hi
my system would also not boot after installing FC5 (at the
hald message).
Thanks for your tips in comment #60 and #81. I hadn't
realised that the
downloads of the ISO images are so outdated!
I also managed to do a
yum update
from the rescue CD as described. 1 Gb download!
Still didn't work.
Tried again
got an error during update that named.conf bind...
conflicts with caching-
nameserver...
So I yum remove bind and then again a yum update
another 1Gb download!
If my machine wouldn't be so heavy I probably would have
thrown it all the way
to Redhat.
At last another yum update told me there is nothing else to
update.
Reboot and IT WORKED!
Thanks guys, I couldn't have done it without you!
my system is:
Dell Poweredge 2900 with one dual core Xeon, 2 HDD(
SAS/SATA), 2GB RAM
Marcus O. White 2006-12-17 13:19:10 UTC Comment 88
After installing FC6 on my system udev would hang and then

the kernel would
abend. One work a round I found that works on a Dell DX370
and my homegrown
Intel-based system (VIA Technologies chipset) is to comment
out the line:
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="?*", MODALIAS=="?*",

RUN+="/sbin/modprobe $modalias"
in /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules. This has also worked

for co-workers
Intel-based workstation. Not sure of all the ramifications
of soing this but,
the system boots up normally and all sub-systems appear to
be working correctly.
Please debug which module is causing the system hang:

Create /sbin/modprobe.sh:
#!/bin/sh
/sbin/modprobe -v -s $@ &>/dev/console
# chmod 0644 /sbin/modprobe.sh

and change the rule to:
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="?*", MODALIAS=="?*",
RUN+="/sbin/modprobe.sh $modalias"
It seems that the problem is with my Colorgraphic Predator

LT 4 Video adapter. I
removed the card from my system and it booted up. Although,
I couldn't see the
message for it scrolled off the screen. I'll see if I can
it slow down...
The problem appears to be with the i2c_savage4.ko module.

The Colorgraphic LT 4
Video adapter is a 4 port vga adapter that has worked under
previous kernels.
Any ideas?

Abend messages while attempting to load 12c-savage4 module
add to /etc/modprobe.conf:
blacklist i2c_savage4
and open a new bug against component kernel with the

backtrace.
Hege R. Frium 2007-03-29 09:43:35 UTC Comment 94
Hi, I have tried to install FC6 on my new computer and it

hangs on "starting
udev". I have packard bell computer with IntelCore 2 Duo
E6300 processor and
first I tried with a Nvidia Geforce 7300SE graphics card
and also with a ATI
Radeon X1300 Pro, but the same problem with both. My
computer hangs and the
screen is turned off.
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Bug 186164 - pcmcia-socket-startup hangs kernel

Keywords: Reported: 2006-03-21 22:46 UTC by

Status: CLOSED RAWHIDE Modified: 2007-11-30 22:11 UTC (History)

Alias: None CC List: 20 users (show)

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Matthew Daniel 2006-03-21 22:46:27 UTC Description

After a fresh install of FC5 (FC-5-i386-DVD.iso) on my Sony

Version-Release number of selected component (if

Russell Strong 2006-03-22 00:45:52 UTC Comment 1

I'm seeing the exact same problem on a Toshiba Tecra S2.

Matthew Daniel 2006-03-22 02:11:29 UTC Comment 2

I used the rescue CD to mount my new system and changed

Here is the last lines on the console before freeze:

I thought I'd report my findings in case that helps anyone,

Russell Strong 2006-03-22 04:10:51 UTC Comment 3

Added acpi=off to the kernel cmdline and was able to get

Harald Hoyer 2006-03-22 08:34:31 UTC Comment 4

I suspect, that a kernel module is causing the hangup, so

Benjamin Thery 2006-03-22 14:18:33 UTC Comment 5

Same problem here on a NEC P550 laptop.

Benjamin Thery 2006-03-22 16:25:07 UTC Comment 6

I edited /etc/udev/udev.conf and set: udev_log="debug"

udevd-event[1104]: wait_for_sysfs: wait for

Harald Hoyer 2006-03-22 16:56:42 UTC Comment 7

any "modprobe" message before that?

Matthew Daniel 2006-03-22 19:17:23 UTC Comment 8

(In reply to comment #7)

I'm not trying to be naive about this, but what is the

I do not have a serial port on this machine, otherwise I'd

I tried the acpi=off as suggested, and I, too, receive a

I also edited the udev.conf and there were no modprobe

H.J. Lu 2006-03-22 20:38:04 UTC Comment 9

I have the same problem on the identical hardware with FC5

Harald Hoyer 2006-03-23 08:05:18 UTC Comment 10

ok, next step... comment out all modprobe lines from:

Benjamin Thery 2006-03-23 09:13:25 UTC Comment 11

I played a bit with udev rules this morning:

1. I commented all lines containing modprobes in *.rules

2. I removed some udev rules file. I remembered pcmcia

3. I added back wacom.rules and alsa.rules to confirm the

4. I removed alsa.rules again.

PCMCIA seems to be the cause for udev hang.

Harald Hoyer 2006-03-23 09:56:55 UTC Comment 12

Harald Hoyer 2006-03-23 10:00:34 UTC Comment 13

please try to isolate the line in 60-pcmcia.rules, which

Harald Hoyer 2006-03-23 10:12:27 UTC Comment 14

*** Bug 186386 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug.

Benjamin Thery 2006-03-23 11:55:05 UTC Comment 15

(In reply to comment #12)

When I say 'udev hangs', I only mean "the boot process

As asked in comment #13, I re-installed 60-pcmcia.rules and

Hope this helps.

Benjamin Thery 2006-03-23 11:59:00 UTC Comment 16

To avoid any confusion, action 5 is the last one in 60-

# if this is a PCMCIA socket which needs a resource

I realized it wasn't very clear in my previous comment.

Harald Hoyer 2006-03-23 13:54:50 UTC Comment 17