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ANSWER: The Angle was the land between the Mitheithel (Hoarwell or possibly “boundary river”) and Bruinen
(Loudwater). At the time of the War of the Ring the Angle was the home of the Dunedain of the North (Aragorn’s people).
Although J.R.R. Tolkien does not explain why the Dunedain chose to live in that region, he often placed secretive peoples
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in woodlands that were bordered by two rivers. The Folk of Haleth retreated to a stockade they had built between two
rivers in Thargelion in the First Age, and the Elves of Lothlorien dwelt mostly in the woodlands near the confluence of the
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identifying information for the sake of processing In the Second Age the Noldor and Sindar who established Eregion settled
user data. between the Glanduin and Gwathlo rivers, and their descendants — the
survivors of Eregion who retreated north with Elrond — found another
defensive position at Imladris, which also lay between two rivers. These
kinds of natural defensive boundaries make the survivability of some of
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When Elendil established his kingdom of Arnor at the end of the Second
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@tolkien_qna related to the Edainic peoples who once inhabited all of Eriador, or they
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Beleriand in the First Age. The hill-folk of Rhudaur and the Men of Angmar
Mitheithel and Bruinen rivers.
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None of J.R.R. Tolkien’s published notes or stories speak of any watercraft along the Gwathlo north of Tharbad, which was
RSS Feed a fordable point on the river where the Numenoreans built a bridge. Numenorean ships were able to navigate the river as
far north as Tharbad. Beyond that point maybe only small boats would have been used on the river. Hence, there is no
https://middle-earth.xenite.org/feed/ reference to any Numenorean city or port in or near the Angle.
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Did J.R.R. Tolkien Invent Orcs call upon Lorien for help. The last time the Elves of Imladris went to war was during the War of Third Age year 1974, when
with Gondor’s help the Elves, Dwarves, and Men of Eriador finally overthrew Angmar.
Being close to the Elves of Imladris would have ensured the Dunedain of the Angle had friends and resources to call upon;
SUBMIT A QUESTION and the Angle itself seems to have been a land easily capable of supporting a population when it was not threatened by
war. Nonetheless, either because of their small numbers or from a desire for secrecy the Dunedain did not build any cities
Have a question you would like to see featured in the Angle. Aragorn seems to confirm as much when he tells Eomer and Imrahil that he will not enter Minas Tirith yet, but
here? Use this form to contact Michael Martinez. If rather will pitch his tents before the city “as a captain of the Rangers, who are unused to cities and houses of stone”.
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The Angle must therefore be viewed as a remote wilderness area adjacent to the only major east-west road passing
through Eriador. That it was a wilderness is attested by Tolkien’s own description of the Dunedain’s living in a “fastness in
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Cole
June 26, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Do you think there could have other Ranger settlements in Eriador? And what about population (circa
T.A. 3019)? In the hundreds or thousands? Also, in The Hobbit the stone trolls were reportedly
menacing people ‘in the district’. Could these people have been the Rangers in the Angle?
Michael Martinez
June 27, 2012 at 2:19 am
Cole, I speculated on all those things in my essay “Of Thegns and Kings and Rangers and
Things”. I think you’ll enjoy reading it.
The short answer is I don’t believe there would have been any Dunadan communities closer to
the Shire than the Angle at the time of the Lord of the Rings (or, say, after Tharbad was
deserted). I suspect Tolkien may have imagined beteen 1,000 and 5,000 Dunedain living in the
North but that is pure guesswork on my part. I think the people mentioned in The Hobbit were
just generic people as there were no Dunedain in Tolkien’s fiction at the time he wrote The
Hobbit.
If he gave any thought to revising that statement, he may have concluded that the Dunedain
were a suitable justification for leaving it in place.
Patrick, UK
June 30, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Actually the siege of Rivendell began not after but some time before the war of 1409, during the reign of
Arveleg I of Arthedain (acceded 1356, killed in the war). At this time Rhudaur had already fallen under
the influence of Angmar; it still included the Angle, as the account makes clear. In 1409 “evil men
subject to Angmar” occupied Rhudaur outright, and the remaining Dunedain were slain or fled west.
So I should say that the evidence for the Dunedain retreating “toward Imladris rather than Lindon” is
slender to non-existent. Everything suggests that their dwindling territory was centred on Fornost. Most
likely after the 1409 war the Angle was simply deserted; the power of Rivendell being sufficient to
contain Angmar’s proxies to the north of the Road, and the Stoors having already fled.
There does seem to be a remarkable desire to find a home for the Rangers! This is despite the fact that
they are repeatedly described as mysterious wanderers, a secret people wandering in the wild, etc.,
implying that they have no fixed abode. Such a lifestyle would fit with the mistrust in which they are held
by the Bree-folk; similar to the suspicions entertained of “travellers” (gypsies) in various countries to this
day.
The passage you cite as locating the Rangers in the Angle, because it is more than 300 miles East from
the Shire, is actually at pains to contrast the “settled dwellings” of the Bree-men with the “mysterious
wanderers”. So it is really reinforcing the dissociation of the Rangers from any fixed location.
Again, in ‘The Ring Goes South’ the Rangers help out with the western part of the search, down the
Greyflood. It doesn’t give any real clue to their base, other than suggesting it is somewhere west of
Rivendell.
The published work says only of Aragorn’s home that it is “the North”, and Gilraen’s, “Eriador”.
Admittedly this could reflect merely a habitual secrecy, without ruling out some kind of settlement.
However the “fastness in the wilderness” was after all dropped, along with the reference to the Angle.
Probably if the Rangers did have settlements they were both well concealed and easily uprooted.
I agree, we know nothing of Tharbad’s inhabitants. I have, however, for many years believed that
Bilbo’s clock was procured from there.
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