I have been warning about this for over a decade. No one listens.

They have thought

it was a joke. They refused to believe it could happen in America. I showed them a
video on Sweden and they still said that was Europe and would never be allowed in
America. I will tell you exactly how we got here:

The Church compromised on the gospel and started preaching a reductionist gospel
saying that you only have to believe in Jesus and you are saved, that nothing you
do matters regarding your salvation. That meant the preaching for the necessity to
obey as part of that faith, the completion of it, as James says, vanished. That
meant when the churches started reaching out to preach their new and reduced gospel
to the gay community they did not insist that they stop practicing homosexuality.
Combine that with the confusion the pastors who thought they could also do whatever
they wanted and were caught in affairs and homosexually compromised situation, and
then the authority of the pastors in general dried up as a result. So then the
agent that was supposed to hold back the decadence and the immorality was gone.
LGBT raised its flags and won the fight for law to stop others from expressing
their freedom of speech against them. Combine that with the attack of 911 and the
normal illogical reactions that Americans are often exhibiting out of misplaced
sympathies, in this case of embracing the Muslims rather than tightening the
immigration policies against them, and you have this situation now. This is chiefly
due to ignorant news channels, pastors, movies, TV series, and talk show hosts
wanting to be seen as compassionate and smart, by advocating the opposite of what
should be done.

Here is the judgment against America: since we were unwilling to walk in

righteousness before the LORD God Almighty, Father of Jesus Christ, the true Son of
the true God, then God has handed us over to a foreign people who will force you to
walk in righteousness, but worshiping a foreign god, which is a construction of
demons through the demonic possession of Mohamed when he would fall into seizures
to receive his prophecies. You will bow down and worship their god and they will
put a yoke on you to force you to stop your unrighteous behavior.

If you humble yourselves and break yourselves and weep and mourn and turn again to
me, says the LORD, I may rescue you from this calamity. But if you continue to say
that you have no God whom you must obey and to whom you must submit both thoughts
and actions every day, then this will be your end. I wanted to bless the whole
world through you, but now the whole world will suffer because you have handed over
your nation to worshipers of demons.

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This guy speaks out of both sides of his mouth. He speaks as a charlatan. If he
imitates those who are evil, then why should we even watch more than a few seconds
of this trash talk? He may have some truth to share, but my stomach turns when I
hear him "preach". Antennae go up sensing a scam. Oho! He makes light of having
been made in God's image! 1:10. Enough! I cannot bear to listen to this. 1:20 He
has a theory that he believes lines up with the Scriptures. Yeah, Satan did too
when he tempted Jesus. Jesus didn't buy it though. We are not to preach our own
thoughts or theories. We are to preach words as they come from God's mouth. The
problem is that most preachers do not know how to walk the walk of the New
Testament. So they do not hear words from God's mouth. They do not have this
intimacy with God. And no wonder, because they are not walking righteously and do
not even believe that they can and they teach others that they cannot. It is no
wonder God ignores them, that God refuses to meet with them.

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Mr. Zacharias misquotes Scripture as most pastors and preachers do. "Let us love
one another" when it is mentioned in Scripture is for the brotherhood of believers,
not for the whole world who is steeped in sinful actions on a daily basis. That
does not mean we are not to show compassion. But we are not to love the "world"
(Greek word literally means "whole collection of individuals") or anything in the
"world". If anyone loves the "world" they become an enemy of God. So then, Mr.,
Zacharias' misquote of Scripture has the power to turn the listener into an enemy
of God. This is the deception at the heart of the churches in America today.

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If you talk to many people from many other churches as I do, you will see that his
view here is in fact the norm now in American churches. Now I am going to talk
about the sin, not the sinner, so make a distinction and don't go nuts over this.
The tolerance of homosexuality as a sin has confused many Christians so that they
do not tell the homosexual that they must stop practicing homosexuality and
committing homosexual acts. This is because a reductionist gospel that is not
preached by Jesus, is preached now in the churches. It says that all you must do is
believe in Jesus and you will be saved, just as the demons believe and know who
Jesus is, but they shake in fear because they refuse to obey. If we do not obey
then we will not be saved. If we teach others to not obey, even if we ourselves
will be saved, we will be least in the Kingdom of Heaven (Jesus said).

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Everyone here missed his argument, because it is unusual. I used the argument about
autonomous culture, though I didn't call it that, in an open debate before an
audience in the 1980's. Pay attention to what he says... he is saying to this woman
that her rejection of racism is because she inherently treats the race and
ethnicity, with which we were born and have no control over, as sacred. Then he
asks why she doesn't do the same with the biological sexuality with which we are
born. His implication is that the approval of homosexuality is a rejection of the
sacredness of this biological sexuality we are given at birth.

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It is tolerance only of the tolerant. Show intolerance and instantly everyone else
shows intolerance too. This tolerance is only skin deep. And who declared
intolerance was a bad thing? I should be intolerant of someone raping my daughter.
I should be intolerant of someone shooting my wife. If you exalt the demonic
doctrine of tolerance it becomes absurd and there is not reason for life at all.

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Yes, but scientists are jealous of God. They want to destroy His creation and
replace it with one they have created. That is why they are studying these matters.
I was an Astrophysicist. I know scientists quite well.

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@holarc Why would Christ need to specifically mention it in order to know it is

wrong? He upheld the Old Testament law which said specifically it was wrong. Paul,
an apostle appointed by Christ and by the other Apostles, who had the authority of
Christ, explained in detail why it was wrong. It fell on Paul to explain, because
he was the evangelist to the Greeks, where homosexuality was practiced. It was rare
in Israel at that time. That is why it did not come up in Jesus' teachings.
Nevertheless, it is in the Bible, in the Old and New Testaments, in Paul and John's
writings. I have ministered to homosexuals in the Church. So if you would like to
discuss this in more detail you are welcome to write me at
ron.craig@therootedword.com
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In reply to: Hate the sin...love the sinner!!

That is an incorrect application of the Scriptures. Hate the sin... have compassion
on the sinner. Love not the "world" (literally from Greek "whole collection of
individuals") nor anything in the "world". Whoever loves the "world" the love of
the Father is not in him. You cannot love the whole collection of individuals with
the love of God. John says it is impossible. We are also told whoever loves the
"world" becomes an enemy of God. God does have compassion on the "world" though.
Compassion is NOT love. We need to stop promulgating that or we fight against God.
Whose side are you on?

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He has a gloss of genuine that he has polished to no end. His inflections are so
rehearsed though, it is clear it is a performance first, with some heart put in
here and there to make it feel authentic to those who are not used to detecting the
frauds. He reasons from human thinking and then sometimes throws in Scriptures to
justify it. I do not know whether he knows what the actual Gospel is that Jesus
preached. He does not talk about it, so how can we know?

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In reply to: I feel Dr Ravi is among the most intelligent persons in the world.

Even intelligent people will stand outside the Kingdom of God crying, "Why won't
you let me in? I fought for the same values as you. What did I do wrong?" He will
say to them, "Away from me you evildoers! I never knew you."

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holarc You are commenting as if I made an argument. I didn't. the Dr. did.
However, I will comment on what you have said and I hope you more precisely comment
on I say, not on what I say someone else said.

Biological sexuality is intended for four things equally, according to the

Scriptures. #1 complimentarity #2 intimacy #3 procreation #4 as a demonstration of
Christ's relationship to the Church. The healthiest expression of biological
sexuality is in all four areas. The first two have very narrow and specific
applications with many boundaries outside of marriage. The last two are for
marriage only.

If you would like to discuss this in more detail we can, but please write me at
ron.craig@therootedword.com

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Ilhan Omar's attitude always seems to be one ridiculing and making fun of. She
knows the Muslim plan to take over Europe and America by compelling us through our
compassion to let them in. She knows that in this plan there is nothing we can do
to stop it. Our own system will not throw them out once they have been there
working and living among us. We won't. Individuals, yes, but not whole people
groups. They found our weak underbelly and are piercing it and there is nothing we
can do about it. We've lost. Give up and become Muslim all you who rejected Christ.
Islam has trapped you. If you want to be saved from that, then there is a solution,
but you won't like it. You will have to become a disciple of Jesus Christ.