Unbiblical Teachings and Behaviors of Steven Anderson and The New IFB Movement by The Reason Files

Unbiblical Teachings and Behaviors
of Steven Anderson
and the New IFB Movement
By The Reason Files
“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are
foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually
discerned.” – 1 Corinthians 2:14
One of the tell tale signs of a pseudo-Christian group is that it consistently interprets Scripture
incorrectly, concerning both the essential doctrines (such the Deity of Jesus, the Trinity, salvation by
grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone, the atonement, the resurrection, etc.) and non-essential
doctrines as well. It is some of the strange non-essential (and unbiblical) doctrines taught by Steven
Anderson and the New IFB Movement that we will be looking at in section three.
The New IFB movement is marked by a violent spirit that is visible in just about every aspect of the
group, as well as the individuals within the group. Even in their verbal interactions with others, the
violence is present. During a recent YouTube live streaming even with Benjamin Naim where he and a
few other New IFB adherents spoke about the so-called “Reprobate Doctrine” and what they call
“infiltrators”, Ben had some interactions with people who had signed in and were participating in the
accompanying live chat1. One of these people, who used the screen name “Vigilant Marksman” made
some comments that were critical of the Steven Anderson and the New IFB movement. Not nasty
comments, no foul language, and contained no untrue comments. But Ben did not care, and he
responded in what could charitably be called an unchristian manner.
Vigilant Marksman: God will judge you Ben.
Ben the Baptist: Jump in a lake
Vigilant Marksman: Pastor Anderson violated the biblical order and placed his puppet in control of a
church he did not build.
Ben the Baptist: Keep crying loser. No one likes you.
Vigilant Marksman: Ben the Baptist speak for yourself.

Ben the Baptist: Nice comeback. Go back to Law of Leprosy*. Out Doug oneness! Out!
Vigilant Marksman: Pastor Anderson stepped into an internal church problem what wasn’t his.
Ben the Baptist, block me then.
Ben the Baptist: Bozo Fanninite
Vigilant Marksman: Ben the Baptist, I believe the Trinity the same way Pastor Anderson did for 10
years of ministry.
Ben the Baptist: Haha no you don’t loser
*a reference to Adam Fannin’s church, Law of Liberty Baptist Church. Law of Liberty is from James 2:12
In this article series, we will examine some of the violence aspects of the New IFB movement.
Reprobates, Theonomy, and Violence – An Introduction to the

Vitriolic, Vindictive, and Violent Nature of the New IFB
The Reprobate Doctrine
The so-called “Reprobate Doctrine” embraced by Steven Anderson and the New IFB movement
teaches that there are certain individuals who have so hardened their hearts against God, that they are
beyond any hope for salvation. While this doctrine does have some basis in Scripture (see Romans
11:7; 1 Peter 2:8 among others), the version embraced by Anderson and the New IFB is a bastardized
version of it, wherein Anderson and his followers tend to view themselves as the final arbiter of who is
or isn’t a reprobate.
While Anderson and his followers seem to have a penchant for labeling anyone who critically disagrees
with them as reprobates, there are apparently two primary groups of people who are labeled as
reprobates by the New IFB. The first are those who are ejected or excommunicated by the group.
Anderson has stated repeatedly that anyone who attends his church and is not saved as a result is a
reprobate. This label had been placed on virtually everyone who has been excommunicated by the New
IFB.
The second group of people whom are labeled as reprobate by the New IFB are homosexuals.
According to the New IFB, all homosexuals are beyond any and all hope for salvation. They base this
on Romans 1:18-32, specifically verses 26-28, which state, “26 For this cause God gave them up unto
vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward
another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence
of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God
gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;”
They then turn to Jeremiah 6:30, “Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the Lord hath rejected
them” and conclude that reprobate is a synonym for rejected, therefore someone with a reprobate mind,
is a reprobate themselves and is therefore rejected by God. They look at passages such as Ecclesiastes
1:15, “That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered”
and Ecclesiastes 7:13, “Consider the work of God: for who can make that straight, which he hath made
crooked?” and interpret these combined scriptures to mean that homosexuals engage in homosexuality
because they have been rejected by God and are unable to be saved. They are beyond any hope of
salvation. They are doomed to hell for all eternity. Because of their version of reprobation, or the
reprobate doctrine, Anderson and his followers have become infamous for the violent hatred of
homosexuals
Since December 2005, Anderson and his followers have made a name for themselves in their vocal
condemnation not simply of homosexuality, but of homosexuals themselves, almost always calling for
their death2.
Benjamin Naim, a New IFB YouTube “celebrity” known as Ben the Baptist, recently held a live stream
hate fest which he advertised as a “Live Reprobate Doctrine Roundtable”3, and not long after this it
was revealed that New IFB “pastor” Grayson Fritts, who is also a Knox County Tennessee Sheriff’s
Office detective, has come under fire for a sermon he delivered on June 2, 2019 wherein he called for
the arrest and execution of homosexuals4.
Meanwhile, over in Clermont, Florida, a suburb of Orlando, New IFB “pastor” Patrick Boyle was
preparing for his church, Revival Baptist Church, to host an antihomosexual conference he calls the
“Make America Straight Again Conference.”5
The antihomsexual hate rhetoric from New IFB pastors, began with Steven Anderson and Roger
Jimenez, the founders of the movement, in 2016 after the deadly shooting at Pulse, a gay nightclub in
Orlando, Florida where shooter Omar Mateen shot over 100 people, killing 49 of them. Within days
Steven Anderson and Roger Jimenez went public praising Mateen for killing so many homosexuals.
Both Anderson and Jimenez said the only thing they regretted about the shooting was that more
homosexuals were nor not killed.6
Not surprisingly, Steven Anderson has found himself banned from several countries – 31 in all, because
of his hate speech. What is surprising, however, is that while these countries have banned Steven
Anderson, they have allowed the other New IFB “pastors” that Anderson sends in his place, thus
ensuring his hate speech has an international audience.7
Steven Anderson claims he learned the Reprobate Doctrine from his father, sometime after Anderson
was bullied by what he calls “gangs of sodomites” that terrorized him and others during his time at the
Citadel of Faith Christian Academy8 when he was in the seventh grade.
Anderson relates some of the abuse he claims he witnessed at Citadel,
“I am not exaggerating when I say this. When I was twelve years old, when I went to Citadel Christian
school, I was literally scared every day that my parents dropped me off. I was literally..as I got out of
the car, I was scared getting out of the car. And I dreaded every day that I went to that school because
of the horrors that were going on there. Now, one of the problems was that the school was seventh
through twelfth grade. So basically, in my main class that I was in, there were about twenty some, thirty
kids, and they were just seventh and eighth graders but the whole school was seventh through twelfth
so we would have P.E. and Bible classes and other times where we would be basically in the same class
with “children” quote unquote that were seventeen, eighteen years old. I’m twelve, they’re seventeen or
eighteen. These, uh, “children” quote unquote would basically beat up on us, cause I’m a seventh
grader, I mean all of us were being beaten up, tortured, having food and money extorted from us – I
mean the typical, ‘hey kid, give us your lunch money’ you know? But basically we had money extorted
from us every day. Money – we had to pay them off, or give them food or whatever; or, be attacked or
fight them, or whatever. Try fighting an eighteen year old when you’re twelve. You say, ‘you were just
a wienie of a wuss.’ No. Let me tell you something. When you’re twelve, you’re not going to fight off a
seventeen or eighteen year old from the ghetto. They’re going to beat the fire out of you. Okay? And
we literally..I mean..we’re not talking about, you know, I’m not talking about mild beating up. I’m
talking about kicking you in the groin as hard as they can – an eighteen year old when you’re twelve.
I’m talking about ripping the hair out of the back of your neck. I mean, I’m talking about slugging you
in the stomach as hard as they could. I’m talking about them coming up with every way possible to
torture you. Okay? This is the kind of stuff that would go on at this Christian school. I remember I
would always..you know, my dad always taught me, don’t give in to bullies. Don’t give them the
money. Don’t give them the food. Don’t give them what they want, they’ll just come after you more.
So I’d always try to fight back and resist, you know, the attack. But honestly, there was a kid in that
school he would pay them every day. He’d give them his food every day. He’d give them a twinkie or
whatever, you know, out of his lunch. He’d give them money every day, and he got beat up the worst.
He got tortured the worst. And I’m not using the word tortured lightly, I mean, I’m talking about
extreme pain being inflicted on us [his exact words]. And again, I don’t even want to go into too much
of it because of the fact that it’s gruesome. But no only that, the sodomite innuendo that came out of
these “kids” mouths. I mean, they would talk sodomy all the time. Filth to young kids. I mean they
would basically, an..and you know I’m not playing when I say that the sodomites aren’t reproducers
they’re recruiters, and they would constantly have sodomite innuendo coming out of their mouth.
Again, nothing I would repeat, but basically trying to solicit sodomite acts out of the younger
children.9
“You know, I didn’t like going to seventh grade at that messed up school, but in some ways I’m glad I
did ‘cause it made me so mad, that I’m still mad, and I still hate their guts! I still hate these reprobates!
I still hate these sodomites! I still hate these haters of God! These VILE, PERVERTERS OF THE
FLESH!!! [pounding his pulpit with each word spoken] And I’ll stand up to them! I stood up to them
then and I’ll stand up to them now!...Bullies! Bullies my friend, BULLIES! [pounding his pulpit] And
they would cram this stuff down your throat, and nobody, because look, a nine-year old, a ten-year old,
an eleven-year old doesn’t have the guts to stand up to that kind of a bully. They want to fit in, they
want to go with the crowd, they want to be cool, they want to be accepted, they don’t want to get a
worse beating, they’re not going to have the guts to stand up. But you know what? Men need to stand
up. But I’ll tell you this, kids, they’re just not going to have the guts to stand up. And in every Christian
school there are going to be reprobates, there are going to be bullies, and kids aren’t going to stand up
to them because kids just don’t have the boldness at that age to stand up to them. And I’m not faulting
the kids, I’m faulting the parents, because honestly, a kid who is ten or eleven shouldn’t have to be
expected to stand up to some seventeen or eighteen year old sodomite and tell them to go to hell, which
is what they ought to be told. And you know, honestly, this is the problem with Christian schools, and
it’s the problem with school in general, that you know, you’re basically turning your kids over to
people and you don’t really know what all is happening. And they’re not going to, you say, people
always ask me, ‘didn’t you tell your parents that this kind of stuff was going on?’ And I always say this,
you know, it’s like when you’re a kid you don’t tell your parents. Now logically it would have made
sense for me to go home and say, ‘Mom and Dad, you know, these horrible reprobate kids are there that
are beating people up, and kicking them in the groin, and stealing their money, and stealing their food,
and trying to get them involved in pornography, and you know, I never, honestly I never saw anybody
“molested” per se, I was never molested physically at all, but verbally..I mean it’s coming out of their
mouths constantly; but the reason kids don’t tell their parents is because kids have this idea, you know
what, I guess this is normal. I mean, this is all they’ve known. And they think, well, I guess I just need
to stand up for myself, and if I come home and tell my parents then I’m a tattletale and a wimp. You
know what I mean? And obviously kids should tell their parents. And I hope that my kids, if anything
bad ever happens will..will come to me and tell me because that’s what I should have done looking
back.”10
Anderson claims it was his father who taught him the reprobate doctrine11, and he very well may have.
With the obviously excessive obsession Steven Anderson has with homosexuals in general, coupled
with his ranting about “sodomite bullies” in his junior high school, one has to wonder of something
very traumatic happened to Steven Anderson at Citadel Christian Academy. Something so traumatic
that it scarred him terribly. So bad that it still upsets him greatly. He takes great pains to emphasize that
“I never saw anybody molested, per se” and again, “I was never molested physically.” And yet, he
presents a lot of the examples of abuse in such a way that it is obvious it comes from first hand
experience. And during his relating of the abuse experienced at Citadel, he makes a very interesting
comment, He says, “And I’m not using the word tortured lightly, I mean, I’m talking about extreme
pain being inflicted on us.” Inflicted on us. His exact words.
Steven Anderson is not a big man, although he has managed to beef up a bit over the past several years.
But in his teen years he was a short scrawny kid. Standing probably somewhat shorter than his current
five feet nine or ten inches, and weighing in at about 95 to 100 pounds at that age (photos of him at
nineteen years old show a five foot nine or ten inch teen of about 125 pounds), he would have been the
perfect victim for school yard bullies who, like all bullies and cowards, tend to pick on those who are
smaller and weaker than they are. Given this scenario, it is easy to imagine young Steven Anderson
coming home traumatized, possibly sexually molested or at least abused in some manner, and turning
to his father for consolation and reassurance. And given this scenario, one can almost hear his dad
telling him that those bullies who badly hurt young Steven Anderson both physically and emotionally,
that they were going to burn in hell for their actions because they were reprobate sodomites who cannot
be saved, and consoling his son with these words. Given Anderson’s current attitude toward
homosexuals – an attitude and belief he has apparently held since his days at Citadel Christian
Academy, it seems apparent that he very well could have received some consolation that his “sodomite
bully” antagonists would spend eternity burning in hell with no hope of salvation. While this scenario
is pure speculation, given Anderson’s own telling of his experiences at Citadel, as well as his long held
deep seated obsessional hatred for and belief (desire) that homosexuals cannot be saved, seems to be an
extremely realistic scenario.
The elder Mr. Anderson, however, did not invent the reprobate doctrine himself, and certainly not to
console his abused and possibly molested son. It was Jack Hyles, the founder of the IFB, or
Independent Fundamental Baptist movement back in the 1950’s who came up with this doctrine. And
no doubt Steven Anderson was taught this doctrine during his time at Hyles-Anderson College. In fact,
Anderson himself has posted a video of Jack Hyles teaching the reprobate doctrine on his personal
YouTube channel.12
Unfortunately, many victims of abuse become abusers themselves, and this is clearly the case with
Steven Anderson. He has become the very thing he loathes, a bully. He is spiritually abusive, a spiritual
bully not unlike those whom he calls the “Sodomite Bullies” of his early junior high school years,
whose abuse of him festered inside of him until it finally erupted into the spiritual abuse – including his
“reprobate doctrine” for “sodomites” today. He is still fighting back against those same bullies today,
though no longer as a small skinny 13-year old against the larger and older high school age bullies who
tormented him.
Anderson constantly rails against homosexuals from behind his pulpit, during interviews, and has even
made it a point to meet some of the pro-homosexual protesters at his church and speaking venues
where he tells them all to “get AIDS and die!” He has thrown homosexuals out of his church telling
them they are not welcome (and thus denying them the gospel), he has told them he wants them to
contract brain cancer and die, he has emphatically stated over and over and over again from his and
other pulpits that all homosexuals deserve to die.13
Hatred is both contagious and consuming, and Steven Anderson’s New IFB is a textbook example of
this. His reprobate doctrine and hatred has spread throughout the New IFB and among the like-minded
preachers and adherents. After the 2016 Pulse nightclub shooting where 49 people lost their life,
Anderson was quick to find a spotlight and begin spouting his hate, praising the self-professed Islamic
terrorist, but complaining that more homosexuals were not killed. Soon after Anderson’s public rants,
both Roger Jimenez and Donnie Romero (both New IFB pastors) made the evening news spouting the
same rhetoric, almost verbatim. It was as if Anderson had handed them both a prepared hate speech. A
recent check of New IFB YouTube channels revealed more than one hundred seventy-five different
videos relating to Anderson’s reprobate doctrine spread across only twenty of the thirty-one New IFB
related channels. In addition to these, the New IFB recently held a “Make America Straight Again”
conference, “dedicated to the proclamation of the reprobate doctrine”14, and featuring three days chock
full of anti-homosexual hate sermons with titles such as “The Sodomite Infiltration and Infestation,”
“Waging War Against The Sodomites”15; in addition to the more than two dozen news and other
videos resulting from the conference16 with each of them allowing the New IFB haters even more
video time to spew their hatred; and, at least nine news reports featuring interviews and video of New
IFB pastor Grayson Fritts who just days before the conference preached a sermon calling for the death
penalty for homosexuals17.
While some people might look at this as a “contained” situation, in that these hate filled people are all
part of the same group – the New IFB movement. While this is true, we must also remember that these
people do have jobs outside of their religious group, and some of them hold positions where they are
able to wield a lot of influence over the public. For instance, how many of these people who want
homosexuals put to death are school teachers, and able to influence their students? How many are
employees at a bank or other lending institution? Would they be inclined to turn down people for
needed loans because they are part of this group? More importantly, how many are in law enforcement?
Grayson Fritts who is mentioned above is a detective and 20-year veteran with the Knox County
Tennessee Sheriff’s Department.18 How many of his cases are now in question because of his publicly
expressed hatred of homosexuals? At least one case investigated by Detective Fritts involved the
murder of man with a homosexual son.19 Did Fritts perhaps look at this case or others with a bias
based on his intense and violent homophobia?
Another individual who is fairly well known among the New IFB is both a firefighter and an EMT.
According to a former New IFB member,20 this individual gave a “sermon” on psychopathy (an odd
choice for a sermon to say the least) and during this so-called “sermon” named several well known gay
celebrities such as Ellen DeGeneres that he would like to see put to death. Given this intense hatred for
gays, one must wonder if this New IFB firefighter/EMT might hesitate to save the life of a homosexual
victim? Would he perhaps not try as hard to save their home if it was on fire, or rescue them if they
were trapped inside? Would he refuse to perform CPR or mouth-to-mouth resuscitation on a
homosexual victim, and thus allow them to die (which would be according to his publicly stated
desires).
Given the their outspoken and virulent hatred for homosexuals, does the New IFB pose a greater threat
to the homosexual community that the rest of the population? These are legitimate questions and
concerns that should be addressed when it is discovered these individuals are in positions where they
are able to wield a great deal of influence – even a life or death influence, over the homosexual
community.
When looking through the various New IFB related websites, one thing above all others quickly
becomes crystal clear. That is their hate. It runs deep, and they are eager to express it, and they’ll take
any steps to justify it, even twisting Scripture. At the recent New IFB “Make America Straight
Conference,” Bruce Mejia, resident pastor at Faithful Word Baptist Church in El Monte, California,
gave a sermon he called, “Waging War on Sodomites.” In it he said,
“Now look. When is a time, when is it a time to love? At our church it’s Sunday afternoon. It’s on
Thursdays, it’s on Saturdays. What is that? Preaching the gospel. Spend a good amount of hours out
there, you know, talking about the love of God. Look, the Bible tells us, ‘Do not I hate them, O LORD,
that hate thee, and that I gree* with those that rise up against thee, I hate them with perfect hatred. I
count them mine enemies.’ Now don’t miss this. The Bible tells us here that David – this is a very bold
statement – he hates them with perfect hatred. What does perfect mean in the Bible? It means complete.
Now look. I’ve known preachers of times past, they hated some things. But their hatred was
incomplete. You know why? Because we’re supposed to hate sin, amen? Supposed to hate sin. We’re
supposed to hate what sin does to people. But you know what? A perfect hatred also includes hating
those who hate the Lord. And what David’s basically saying here is, he has a complete mature hatred!
He hates sin. He hates evil. He hates those who hate the Lord. ‘[you say] I don’t believe God hates.’
Have you heard of hell? You think it’s like just all roses and daisies, it’s just, the heater’s turned on. It’s
hell. We need to recognize and stop, you know, having this weird perception that God is only love but
He’s no hate. Hey, God is love and heaven is the expression of that. Everlasting life is the expression of
that. Jesus Christ coming to die for us is the expression of that. But you know what? God also hates!
Hell’s the proof! God also hates! Damnation is proof! The Bible says in Psalm 97, verse 10, ‘Ye that
love the Lord hate evil. He preserveth the souls of th..the saints, He delivereth them out of the hand of
the wicked.’ Romans 12:9 says ‘let love be without dissimulation! Abhor that which is evil, cleave to
that which is good.’ You know what this is telling us? That a hypocritical love is a love that claims that
it don’t, that they don’t hate. That’s what that’s saying. You know, I forgot what preacher said, he’s like,
‘Oh, you can’t say that you love everyone, if you love everyone, if you said you love everyone, you
love nobody and that’s fact. Because in order to love someone, there has to be an equal amount of
hatred for those who would even desire to harm them.”
Throughout his rant, the New IFB folks that were in attendance were repeatedly saying things such as,
“That’s Right!” “Amen!” and laughing, although it is unsure where the comedy was. They did seem,
however, to laugh the loudest and longest when Mejia would say homosexuals were going to go to hell.
This extremely unbiblical hatred of homosexuals has led New IFB pastor Manly Perry to condemn “Dr.
Bronner’s Pure-Castile Liquid Soap.” In a video he has titled, “Say No To Sodomite Soap!”22 Mr.
Perry relates that he has used the Dr. Bronner soap for some time, and how he thinks it is a very good
product. “But,” he says, “have you ever taken time to read one of these?” (referring to the label) “It’s
all kinds of New Age nonsense, mumbo jumbo on there. Let me just read the first line here: ‘As taught
by The Moral ABC, the real Rabbi Hillel taught Jesus to unite all mankind free.’ Now look,” he
continues, “Ain’t nobody teachin’ Jesus anything, amen?” Later he says that although he really liked
the product, he never felt good using it.
Now that’s all well and good, if he is uncomfortable using it because of the New Age messages printed
in impossibly small print all over the label, then he should not violate his conscience by using it. No
problem. However, he doesn’t stop there. He goes on to explain that his family also used to use Dove
brand soap, but then he discovered that Unilever, the company that makes Dove soap, produced a
commercial with what he called “a transvestite” using Dove. He then asks, “Where can you find a good
soap these days?” His rant against what he calls, “New Age friendly, sodomite friendly” soap soon
becomes an advertisement to buy a homemade soap produced by another New IFB pastor, Michael
Johnson and his wife. He concludes his video by encouraging his viewers to “stop giving New Ager
sodomites your money for soap!”
While depicting a homosexual in their commercial may be offensive to some, it is certainly no reason
to boycott Unilever. In fact I am certain that while Mr. Perry has stopped “giving sodomites money” for
soap, he continues to give them a huge amount of money by purchasing some of the 400 recognizable
brands of food, health, and beauty products manufactured and owned by Unilever, in addition to their
Dove soap; products such as Ragu pasta sauces, Knorr pasta and sauces, Klondike ice cream bars,
Lipton tea, Hellman’s mayonnaise, Vaseline, Noxema, Q-Tips, Breyer’s ice cream, and so many, many,
many more. If nothing else, Mr. Perry and those in the New IFB that follow his advice to “Say No To
Sodomite Soap!” have no problem saying yes to “sodomite” food, “sodomite” health products, and
“sodomite” beauty products. If you are reading this Mr. Perry (or any of the New IFB folks), this is
called a double standard, and hypocrisy. The Bible calls it being double minded, and I am sure you
know what the Bible says about those who are double minded? “A double minded man is unstable in all
his ways.” (James 1:8). And that certainly describes the New IFB movement.
Ironically, the “Johnson Pure Soap” being promoted by Mr. Perry, is sold by New IFB celebrity Paul
Wittenberger on his Framing the World website. Right alongside a wide selection of Auromère
products which are produced by and which support both a Hindu ashram in Northern California and a
communal Hindu community in India. What makes this so ironic is the prevailing Hindu stance on
homosexuality. The Human Rights Campaign reports that,
“The Hindu American Foundation, in its policy brief on Hindus and Homosexuality, notes that
Hinduism does not provide a fundamental spiritual reason to reject or ostracize LGBTQ individuals,
and that, ‘Given their inherent spiritual equality, Hindus should not socially ostracize LGBT
individuals, but should accept them as fellow sojourners on the path to moksha.’
“The Vedas refer to a ‘third sex,’ roughly defined as people for whom sex is not procreative, either
through impotence or a lack of desire for the opposite sex. Members of the third sex are not ostracized,
however, and are sometimes recognized for having divine powers or insights. The Kama Sutra, a Hindu
text detailing the pleasures of sexuality, states that same-sex experience is ‘to be engaged in and
enjoyed for its own sake as one of the arts.’”23
In other words, Mr. Manly Perry and the New IFB are saying, “Say no to New Age and Sodomite soap!
… but buy this soap that is made by New Age homosexual supporting Hindu’s!”
Of course, the New IFB hatred of homosexuals has its foundation in Pastor Steven Anderson, and he
makes no apologies for this. His rants about homosexuals, his well publicized public homophobic
comments, his violent vitriol regarding homosexuals is globally known, and as a result he has been
banned from entering thirty-three separate nations.24
For Anderson, however, being banned from these countries is nothing more than free publicity.
Although these countries have taken a step to prevent Anderson’s New IFB brand of hate, they haven’t
even slowed down its progress into their countries, for as soon as one of them bans him, he simply
sends one of his New IFB clone pastors to take his place, and before long, that country has its own New
IFB Steven Anderson clone and church – whether a house church or an actual church building, such as
in England, The Republic of Ireland, Malawi and South Africa.25
The reprobate doctrine of Steven Anderson and the New IFB is probably the one doctrine of theirs that
they are know for. They are defined by it, and they seem inordinately proud of that. But with all of the
screaming, and pulpit pounding, kicking and jumping they employ to emphasize this doctrine, is it
actually biblical? The New IFB bases its reprobate doctrine on two passages of Scripture, Leviticus
20:13, and Romans 1:24-28.
The Leviticus passage reads, “13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of
them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon
them.” and the Romans passage: “24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the
lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth
of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for
ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change
the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use
of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly,
and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did
not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things
which are not convenient”.
Anderson combines these two passages and arrives at the conclusion that:
1. God considers homosexuality to be an abomination worthy of death,
2. Those given over to a reprobate mind commit homosexual acts,
3. Therefore, homosexuality is evidence of reprobation, therefore all homosexuals are to be killed and
God approves of this.
There are several things wrong with Anderson’s conclusion, beginning with his insistence that this
doctrine and passage are essential to salvation. He insists (complete with pulpit pounding emphasis)
that if you do not believe that homosexuals are reprobates that must be put to death, you are not a
Christian, not saved, and doomed to spend eternity burning in hell. He states,
[indent] “Here’s what the verse says, it says in verse 20, uh, Leviticus 20:13, ‘If a man also lie with
mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
put to death; their blood shall be upon them.’ Now let just start out by saying this, and you can like this
or lump this, if you don’t believe this verse you’re not even saved, you’re gonna go to hell when you
die. IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE WHAT I JUST READ YOU YOU’RE GOING TO HELL WHEN
YOU DIE! YOU’RE GONNA BURN IN HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY! YOU’RE NOT EVEN
SAVED! YOU DON’T HAVE CHRIST AS YOUR SAVIOR! You say, how do you know that? Because
THE BIBLE SAYS HE THAT IS OF GOD HEARETH GOD’S WORD! And YOU therefore hear them
not, ‘cause you’re not of God. And you know what? IF YOU DON’T HEAR THE WORD OF GOD
THAT I JUST READ TO YOU, and you say, ‘that isn’t right, that’s wrong, that’s mean;’ you know
what? YOU’RE NOT EVEN OF GOD! YOU’RE NOT EVEN OF GOD! YOU DON’T EVEN HAVE
CHRIST IN YOUR HEART! YOU’RE NOT EVEN SAVED!!!” (All caps indicate those points which
Anderson emphasized by screaming at the top of voice and pounding his pulpit repeatedly)26
Additionally, Anderson takes the Romans passage out of context in order to support his reprobate
doctrine. The full passage would include all verses from Romans 1:15-32, not just the four verses he
has cherry picked. Notice verse 21 which states, “Because that, when they knew God, they glorified
him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart
was darkened.” According to numerous other verses in Scripture including Genesis 6:5, Genesis 8:21;
John 3:18-20, Romans 3:10-19; and numerous other passages, Romans 1:21 refers to every single
unbeliever. Is Anderson prepared to say that every single unbeliever is a reprobate? Not likely
(although one can never be too sure about a thing like this when it concerns Steven L Anderson).
And verse 21 aside, take a look at verse 28 which lays at the end of Anderson’s ‘supporting” verse for
his reprobate doctrine. Notice how there is a semi-colon at the end of that verse? Which indicates what?
That the statement is not complete. The complete statement includes verses 29-32. Let’s take a look at
that complete statement and examine the obvious ramifications of it with regard to Anderson’s
reprobate doctrine.
“28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate
mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness,
fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity;
whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things,
disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection,
implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are
worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”
Well, now, that puts a whole new light on things doesn’t it. For not only are homosexuals worthy of
death, but there is a whole list of people who are worthy of death. Note the word “worthy” as used
here. The passage neither says “must be put to death,” nor “should be put to death,” but rather these
people are “worthy of death.” Meaning they deserve death, as does every sinner according to Scripture
which states, “the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our
Lord.” But Steven Anderson, in order to support his “death to all homosexuals” doctrine, the “reprobate
doctrine,” has redefined what God has said in order to fit what he wants the passage to say, rather than
what it actually says.
In order to remain consistent, however, Anderson must also call for the death of:
1. Those “filled with all unrighteousness.” (verse 29). The Greek word used here is adikia, and refers to
injustice, as in contrary to God’s justice, contrary to what He approves. According to Anderson’s
theology, anyone who is filled with injustice is to be put to death.
2. Those involved in “fornication”. The Greek word porneia refers to prostitution.
3. Those involved in “wickedness.” The Greek word here is ponéria, and it refers to sin.
4. Those involved in “covetousness.” The Greek word used here is pleonexia, and is used to describe
avarice, greed, and an aggressive desire for things.
5. Those involved in “maliciousness.” Here the Greek word used is kakia, and refers to those with a
vicious disposition marked by malice and spite.
6. Those who are “full of envy.” The Greek word translated “envy” in this passage is phthonos, and it
refers to those who are happy when someone else experiences misfortune or pain.
7. Those who commit “murder.” The Greek word here is phonos, and refers to intentional, unjustified
homicide.
8. Those who “debate”. The Greek word is eris, which refers to contention, strife, and wrangling.
9. “Deceit.” The Greek word is dolos, and refers to those who deal in deceit and treachery.
10. Those filled with “malignity.” The Greek word kakoétheia refers to those who are evil minded, who
are spiteful, and hostile, and who have or express a desire to do evil to others.
11. Those who are “whisperers.” The Greek word psithuristés refers to those who gossip.
12. Continuing into verse 30 we see that “backbiters” is included in this list of reprobates. The Greek
word here is psithuristés, the same word translated as “whisperers.” It is used here to describe the
elements of gossip such as slander and defamation. In other words, it is not simply talking about others
behind their backs (whisperers), but also slandering and defaming them (backbiters) when you do so.
13. Those who are “haters of God.” The Greek word theostugés is used here, and refers not only to
those who hate God, but also to those who are hateful to God.
14. Those who are “despiteful.” The Greek word hubristés refers to those who are insolent, insulting,
and/or violent.
15. Those who are “proud.” The Greek word is huperephanos, and it referes to those who think of and
present themselves as better than others, as above others.
16. Those who are “boasters.” The Greek word here is alazón, and it refers to those who present
themselves as something other than what they are, flaunting their fake achievements, boasting about
fake accomplishments.
17. Those who are “inventors of evil things.” The Greek phrase epheuretés kakos, refers to those who
plan evil and wickedness out of the evil in their hearts.
18. Those who are “disobedient to parents.” The Greek word is apeithés, and refers to those who are
rebellious toward their parents, disobedient and refusing to obey them.
19. And into verse 31 we see those who are “without understanding.” This is the Greek word asunetos,
and it refers to those who lack wisdom and discernment.
20. Those who are “covenantbreakers.” The Greek word here is asunthetos. It refers to those who do
not keep agreements, and are untrustworthy.
21. Those who are “without natural affection.” The Greek word astorgos refers to those who are
unloving toward others.
22. Those who are “implacable.” The Greek word here is aspondous. It refers to those who cannot be
please, those who refuse to reconcile, and refuse to accept any truce.
23. Those who are “unmerciful.” This is the Greek word aneleemon, which refers to those who lack
pity, mercy, and compassion. Those who are cruel.
24. And verse 32, those who knowing the judgment of God not only commit these things, but they take
pleasure in those that commit these things, approving of what they do.
Anderson’s theology, specifically his so-called “reprobate doctrine,” which permeates the New IFB
movement, is a self-condemning theology. It condemns and calls reprobate those within the New IFB
itself who use it to justify their hate and condemnation of others, their lack of compassion for others,
their cruelty toward others (especially as will be shown later), their slander and defamation of others,
their refusal to reconcile with those they have harmed, their unloving manner and attitude, and the joy
they experience at that murder of others. Sadly, they also condemn as unsavable reprobates those who
lack the wisdom and discernment to recognize this about Steven Anderson and the New IFB
movement.
The “reprobate doctrine” is clearly unbiblical. While those who do the things mentioned in Romans
1:15-32 actually are worthy of death, the list includes virtually anyone who has ever lived. And that is
the intent of the Apostle Paul in writing this. He is pointing out that everyone is worthy of death. This
does not mean they are to be put to death as Anderson claims. And as Paul notes in 1 Corinthians 6:9-
11,
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither
fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of
God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the
name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
This is almost the same list as appears in Romans 1:15-32. The statement of verse 9 here, “...the
unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God...” is inclusive of every single element found in
Romans 1:15-32. But note verse 11 here: “And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are
sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.” What is
Paul saying? There are born again Christians who once engaged in every single condemned act noted in
Romans 1:15-32, including homosexuality. Just because you engage in one of the actions, including
homosexuality, does not mean you unable to be saved. Steven Anderson’s theology is contrary to God’s
word, is antithetical to God and Christianity, and it should be banned from every discerning Christian’s
mind.
Sources:
1. Ben the Baptist LIVE: Reprobate Doctrine Roundtable [2:11:54]
Streamed live on Jun 7, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NE-Aof3zOQ
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio Downloaded for this Video
Live Chat Screen Shots Downloaded(?)
2. People I Hate - Pastor Jonathan Shelley
Stedfast Baptist Church
Streamed live on Mar 31, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L27G1kQB7p8
Mark 3 - Blasphemy Against the Holy Ghost (6/19/16)
brothermanly316 – Manly Perry
Published on Jun 20, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XucDaB_ZB7o
Shame on Atlanta Pride and its Supporters
Strong Hold Baptist Church – David Berzins
Published on Oct 20, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DbWqeaPWjY
Can A Reprobate Get Saved
Joe Major (Faith Baptist Church)
Streamed live on Jul 29, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx7K0SCX5zo
Reprobate mask drops in church
Tim Delello – Friendship Baptist Church
Streamed live on Oct 31, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWVOoX2pgl4
Reprobate Pride by Pastor Tommy McMurtry 6/12/16 PM
Liberty Baptist Church of Rock Falls, IL
6/12/2016 Sunday Evening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvxmC7z3fT4
"Sodomite Reprobates" - Sunday am 6/9/19 - Pastor Grayson Fritts
All Scripture Baptist Church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpIOeshtasE
Importance of the Reprobate Doctrine - Matt. 13
Revival Baptist Church Live – Patrick Boyle
Published on Sep 17, 2018
www.RevivalBaptistOrlando.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbn7lXqdKS4
Steven Anderson: I Pray Caitlyn Jenner Dies Today and Goes to Hell [3:43]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlZVyJZGowc
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
Pastor Steven L Anderson Is Gonna Pray For Barack Obama To Die And Go To
Hell [1:48]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9zyLRaX7jQ
'Pastor' Steven Anderson Says He Hates Gays and They All Should Be Killed [5:34]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceFja7OosbU
Pastor Steven Anderson HEATED Australian Radio Interview | Homosexual
Interrupts!!! [7:16]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5yx07-TkZo
AIDS, the Judgement of God - documentary by Pastor Steven Anderson minus
patent trolled segment [54:36]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvZzVQ3iAak
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video
Pastor Steven Anderson Tells Gay Radio Host he Hopes he gets Cancer and Dies
[CRINGE] [1:07]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmmoFdCtDLg
Disgusting Pastor Has "Discovered" A Cure For AIDs [5:13]
The Young Turks
"A Baptist pastor in Tempe, Arizona called for the mass extermination of LGBT people on Sunday in a
sermon entitled “AIDS: The ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCq8jxzyW18
Christian Pastor Supports Killing “Sodomites" [4:45]
The Young Turks
Christian pastor Steven Anderson doesn't mind homosexuals being executed. John Iadarola
(ThinkTank), Wes Clark Jr., and ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbgT_52-OF8
3. Ben the Baptist LIVE: Reprobate Doctrine Roundtable
Ben the Baptist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NE-Aof3zOQ
4. Detective Grayson Fritts defends LGBTQ comments
Knoxville News Sentinel
The Knox County Sheriff's Office detective who came under fire Wednesday after the News Sentinel
reported on his recent hate-filled sermon did not back off Wednesday on his stance that the government
should arrest and execute members of the LGBTQ community. Detective Grayson Fritts, pastor of All
Scripture Baptist Church, scrapped his original sermon Wednesday afternoon and spoke about his view
of persecution. He said he is not alone in his beliefs, but said he’s the only one willing to take a stand
for it. Read more: https://knoxne.ws/2IGahhj
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua0HkCT4QV8
KCSO Grayson Fritts anti-gay sermon
WATE 6 On Your Side
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ3tXU3eEjQ
5. Florida pastor holding 'Make America Straight Again' conference
By Robert Guaderrama, Posted Jun 13 2019
http://www.fox13news.com/news/florida-news/florida-pastor-holding-make-america-straight-again-
conference
‘Make America Straight Again’ conference will bring a group of anti-LGBTQ preachers to
Orlando’s Pride weekend
By Muri Assunção | New York Daily News | Jun 13, 2019
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-pulse-anti-lgbtq-make-america-straight-again-pride-
weekend-20190613-quhvtkdoybhanmv3z3hfmid4jy-story.html
Clermont church plans 'Make America Straight Again' conference
By: Myrt Price, Updated: Jun 12, 2019
https://www.wftv.com/news/local/clermont-church-plans-make-america-straight-again-conference/
957654884
6. California pastor praises Orlando massacre
USA TODAY
After the mass shooting at an Orlando gay nightclub, Pastor Roger Jimenez praised the massacre,
saying that it's a tragedy more "predators" and "pedophiles" didn't die.
Be Smarter. Faster. More Colorful and get the full story at: http://usat.ly/1VX2ZaI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUzqi3GKD0
Christian Pastor Supports Killing “Sodomites"
The Young Turks
7. Anderson has been banned from entering South Africa, Botswana, the United Kingdom,
Canada, and Jamaica.
In a YouTube video, Anderson mentioned a planned trip to Malawi in order to set up a church there.
Malawian authorities subsequently made it known that he would not be welcome in the country and
that he would also be banned from entering it in the future.
He has been banned from several other countries, including the United Kingdom, Malawi, South
Africa, Canada, Jamaica and all other European Union countries. And Also: the Republic of Ireland,
and the Netherlands. THE UK: England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland.
Pastor Anderson Now Banned from 31 Countries [4:06]
MP4 Video downloaded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWK2rcX3mJM
sanderson1611
Published on May 2, 2019
6 Countries That Have Banned Me:
Botswana, Canada, Jamaica, Netherlands, South Africa, United Kingdom
25 additional "Schengen" countries I am now banned from:
Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary,
Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Norway, Poland, Portugal,
Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland.
the Schengen consists of 26 countries that Anderson is banned from:
The 26 Schengen countries are: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France,
Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta,
Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland.
https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/schengen-visa-countries-list/
Steven Anderson has been banned from a total of 36 countries.
Anderson mentioned a planned trip to Malawi in order to set up a church there. Malawian authorities
subsequently made it known that he would not be welcome in the country and that he would also be
banned from entering it in the future.[39][40]
[39] "Govt. blocks anti-gay pastor from coming to Malawi". 2016-10-26.
https://malawi24.com/2016/10/26/govt-blocks-anti-gay-pastor-from-coming-to-malawi/.
[40] Collison, Carl. "Malawi government says 'kill the gays’ pastor 'will not be received' in the
country". The M&G Online. http://mg.co.za/article/2016-10-24-00-kill-the-gays-pastor-now-trying-to-
infiltrate-malawi.
Govt. blocks anti-gay pastor from coming to Malawi
By Luke Bisani on Oct 26, 2016
https://malawi24.com/2016/10/26/govt-blocks-anti-gay-pastor-from-coming-to-malawi/
government through its spokesperson Malison Ndau has disclosed that they have banned controversial
US pastor Steven Anderson from opening his church in the country.
Malawi government says 'kill the gays’ pastor 'will not be received' in the country
Carl Collison 24 Oct 2016
https://mg.co.za/article/2016-10-24-00-kill-the-gays-pastor-now-trying-to-infiltrate-malawi
Malison Ndau, Malawi’s government spokesperson, has said that ‘pastor of hate’, Steven Anderson
setting up a church in the country “would not augur well for the people of Malawi” and that the
country’s people “would not accept it”. “He would would not be received well here,” Ndau said.
Malawi bans homophobic US pastor Steven Anderson - EWN
https://ewn.co.za/2016/10/28/malawi-bans-us-pastor-steven-anderson
Oct 28, 2016 - CAPE TOWN - Malawi is the latest African country to ban controversial US pastor
Steven Anderson. Local online newspaper Malawi24 is ...
Media Lies about Malawi Banning Pastor Anderson – YouTube [5:44]
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 21, 2016
[Note: In this video, Anderson shows his passport which indicates he is allowed to go to Malawi, but
yet, he didn't go, and the reason he did not go is because the Malawian government banned him!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVuMpcaPyI8
Steven L Anderson: We are already in Malawi
sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2016/12/we-are-already-in-malawi.html
Dec 3, 2016 - The homos that said we had been banned must have been lying because the ... Enough
people in Malawi are fluent in English for us to conduct ...
Wanted: Laborers in Malawi
December 30, 2016
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2016/12/wanted-laborers-in-malawi.html
pastor_anderson_malawi_visa
Article by Roberto Igual | December 26, 2016
https://www.mambaonline.com/2016/12/26/revolting-steven-anderson-celebrates-george-michaels-
death/pastor_anderson_malawi_visa/
Faithful Word Baptist Church Malawi
https://www.facebook.com/Faithful-Word-Baptist-Church-Malawi-1303136263053850/
Faithful Word Baptist Church Malawi
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Please check the URL or go back a page.
404 Error. Page Not Found.
https://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/malawi.html
8. Citadel of Faith Christian Academy, 5230 Ehrhardt Ave., Sacramento, CA 95823. The school opened
July 1, 1980, and closed its doors August 12, 2004. It was a private K-12 school located within the
boundaries of the Elk Grove Unified School District of Sacramento, California.
9. [Note, this is a verbatim transcript. Scare quotes appear where Anderson would motion them with his
fingers]
Horrors of a "Christian" Junior High School [7:33]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed62uzT997g
– or an extended version of the same –
HORRORS OF CHRISTIAN SCHOOL | First hand experience [26:26]
File001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e734rRcLLIo
10. Standing Up to the Sodomite Bullies!!!!! Pastor Steven L Anderson [5:03]
Let God's word be true and every man a liar!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXRn73sY9jY&feature=youtu.be
Anderson is so rabidly homophobic (with that term being defined in the most precise terms as his
hatred for them stems from his intense fear of them as a young junior high school student) that he
actually went out of his way in one of his sermons to teach that Jesus wore pants. Yes, he said pants.
What kind of clothes did Jesus wear?
History suggests that Jesus would have worn the same clothes as the ordinary people of His day. He
would have worn plain linens, comfortable long robes with a sash to tuck the garment in when He ran.
He would have worn simple sandals on His feet. Jesus was from a poor background and His clothes
would have been plain and ordinary.
Jesus probably wore a type of rope around his middle, not a "sash". It would likely be woven, but
simple, with some threads at each end. Hasidic Jews, for centuries, have worn black silk woven string
ropes around their waist when praying. It's to separate the upper, more holy parts of the body, the heart
and mind, from the lower parts, involving waste disposal and sexual activity and lust. It's called a
gartel. Jesus would not have worn a gartel made out of silk, but of humbler rope material.
First Century Clothing
Typical clothing for a man in the First Century seems pretty foreign to Westerners.
Tunic, Chaluq, Kitunna, or Colobium
Illustration from Madelieine S. and J. Lane Miller, Harper's Encyclopedia of Bible Life (Third Revised
Edition, Harper & Row, 1978), p. 55.
• Tunic, the Chaluq, Kittuna, or colobium, a long, close-fitting tunic made of linen or wool and worn
next to the skin. It had an opening for the neck and sometimes sleeves. It was worn long, perhaps to the
ankles, and fastened with a girdle or belt of linen or leather around the waist or under the breast. We
know that Jesus' garment was seamless (John 19:23). http://jesuswalk.com/images/tunic.gif
• Cloak, the Tallith or Goltha. This was a square garment that bore tassels at the corners in fulfillment
of the commands in Numbers 15:38-39 and Deuteronomy 22:12 as a reminder to obey the laws of the
Lord. The strands that made up the tassel probably included at least one of hyacinth (light violet to
moderate purple) color and several strands of white. In Luke 8:44 the outer clothing is expressed by the
Greek word himation, "cloak, robe."[3]
• Head-gear, possibly a turban, or a covering for the head, back of the neck, and shoulders. There is
some dispute about whether men wore these in Jesus' day, since there is no mention in the New
Testament.
• Sandals[4]
Sometimes Bible commentators refer to undergarments and outer garments, but the inner garments
were not like our underwear that are worn invariably under our other clothing. In Jesus' day the tunic
was visible under the cloak. It was more the "layered look" that was fashionable around the turn of the
Twenty-First Century.
Where Luke records, "She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak" (8:44), the word
translated "edge" is Greek kraspedon, " 'edge, border, hem' of a garment." But it can also refer to the
"tassel" that Israelites wore on the four corners of the cloak.[5] We're not exactly sure which is referred
to in this verse.
Jesus’ Attire
There are only a couple of references to the type of clothing that Jesus wore during His time on earth
and it would not have been much different from the way that other Jewish men dressed at that time,
particularly rabbis. Once such reference was “When the soldiers had crucified Jesus, they took his
garments and divided them into four parts, one part for each soldier; also his tunic” (John 19:23a). The
word “tunic” is from the Greek word “chiton” which is a long garment worn under the cloak next to the
skin so what Jesus was wearing “was seamless, woven in one piece from top to bottom, so they said to
one another, “Let us not tear it, but cast lots for it to see whose it shall be” (John 19:23b-24.) A
seamless piece of clothing was very valuable in that day because most clothing at the time was not
“woven in one piece from the top to bottom” as Jesus’ tunic was.
Touching Jesus
When a woman with a disease came to Jesus it says “And behold, a woman who had suffered from a
discharge of blood for twelve years came up behind him and touched the fringe of his garment, for she
said to herself, “If I only touch his garment, I will be made well” (Matt 9:20-21). Jesus may have been
wearing what had been worn and commanded of the ancient Israelites where God told Moses “Speak to
the people of Israel, and tell them to make tassels on the corners of their garments throughout their
generations, and to put a cord of blue on the tassel of each corner” (Num 15:38). These tassels were
originally intended for them to “look at and remember all the commandments of the Lord, to do them,
not to follow after your own heart and your own eyes, which you are inclined to whore after” (Num
15:28-29). These tassels on the corners of their garments closely resembled what the Pharisees wore
and about which Jesus said, “They do all their deeds to be seen by others. For they make their
phylacteries broad and their fringes long” (Matt 23:5). The longer the phylacteries were, the more holy
they thought themselves to be and the more they expected others to regard them as holy. To the Jews, it
would have been an abomination to have a woman with a blood discharge touch Jesus. They believed
that would have declared Him as unclean.
What Jesus Wore
Jesus certainly wore sandals.
Jesus wore a tunic underneath His garments.
Jesus wore a cloak.
Jesus wore plain linens.
A sash to tuck in the clothing if necessary.
Jesus wore comfortable long robes.
Jesus might have worn a Jewish turban while outside.
Revelation 19:13
And he was clothed with a vesture [himation = 2440. himation. an outer garment, a cloak, robe
Usage: a long flowing outer garment, tunic.] dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
John 19:23-24 (KJV)

23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments [himatia = 2440. himation. an
outer garment, a cloak, robe. Usage: a long flowing outer garment, tunic.], and made four parts, to
every soldier a part; and also his coat [chitōna = 5509. chitón]: now the coat [chitōn = 5509. chitón. a
tunic, garment, undergarment.] was without seam, woven from the top throughout.
24 They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that
the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment [himatia = 2440] among them,
and for my vesture [himatismon = 2441. himatismos. a collective word: raiment, clothing.] they did
cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did.
Jesus wore pants, not a dress!!! Baptist preaching Bible [5:31]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta9LSx8-9Vc
Did Jesus Wear Long Clothing [3:04]
sanderson1611
Published on Jul 11, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5uuaup4EsM
11. How My Dad Taught Me the Reprobate Doctrine [6:10]
sanderson1611
Published on Feb 14, 2019
He takes this from Hebrews 6, saying those who have come to church, and “tasted” the Holy Spirit, i,e.
heard the sermon, etc., but stop coming to church, they have been rejected by God, they are reprobate,
they cannot be saved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luv-pGS7Wik&feature=youtu.be
13. Steven Anderson: I Pray Caitlyn Jenner Dies Today and Goes to Hell [3:43]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlZVyJZGowc
Pastor Steven L Anderson Is Gonna Pray For Barack Obama To Die And Go To
Hell [1:48]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9zyLRaX7jQ
'Pastor' Steven Anderson Says He Hates Gays and They All Should Be Killed [5:34]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceFja7OosbU
Pastor Steven Anderson HEATED Australian Radio Interview | Homosexual
Interrupts!!! [7:16]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5yx07-TkZo
AIDS, the Judgement of God - documentary by Pastor Steven Anderson minus
patent trolled segment [54:36]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvZzVQ3iAak
Pastor Steven Anderson Tells Gay Radio Host he Hopes he gets Cancer and Dies
[CRINGE] [1:07]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmmoFdCtDLg
Disgusting Pastor Has "Discovered" A Cure For AIDs [5:13]
The Young Turks
"A Baptist pastor in Tempe, Arizona called for the mass extermination of LGBT people on Sunday in a
sermon entitled “AIDS: The ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCq8jxzyW18
Christian Pastor Supports Killing “Sodomites" [4:45]
The Young Turks
Christian pastor Steven Anderson doesn't mind homosexuals being executed. John Iadarola
(ThinkTank), Wes Clark Jr., and ...
14. Roger Jimenez in his conference opening sermon, “Make America Straight Again Conference -
Pastor Roger Jimenez Sermon,” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlncJw7VXtw&t=5s
MASA Conference Set 1, https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNJtltw2kZr2bava4-
Q_6VucHnRcbW1NX
15. Make America Straight Again Conference - Pastor Aaron Thompson, “The Sodomite
Infiltration and Infestation,” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwZ6LhJNcns
Make America Straight Again Conference - Pastor Bruce Mejia, “Waging War Against The
Sodomites,” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kma7wIP81ZI
16. YouTube Search for: “Make America Great Again Conference”
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Make+America+Straight+Again+Conference
Archived here: https://web.archive.org/web/20190623005955/https://www.youtube.com/results?
search_query=Make+America+Straight+Again+Conference
17. YouTube Search for: “Grayson Fritts”
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Grayson+Fritts
Archived here: https://web.archive.org/results?search_query=Grayson+Fritts
Google Search for: “Grayson Fritts”
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&channel=cus&q=Grayson+Fritts
Archived here: https://web.archive.org/save/https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-
d&channel=cus&q=Grayson+Fritts
18. File shows anti-gay detective's work history
WBIR Channel 10 NBC Knoxville, TN
“Fritts, a 20-year KCSO veteran, is also a pastor at the All Scripture Baptist Church, which identifies
itself as an "independent, fundamental, King James Bible only, soul-winning church."
In two sermons delivered this month to his congregation, Fritts said he hated gay people and that their
sexuality constituted a "capital crime."”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-zUGb3lncw
Knox Sheriff: Grayson Fritts won't be fired because of fear of free-speech lawsuits
Knoxville News Sentinel
Knox County Sheriff Tom Spangler said his fear of First Amendment lawsuits is keeping him from
firing a detective who called for the killing of LGBTQ community members.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgLRSJvREkU
19. Detective's sermon of hatred hurt homicide victim's gay son
WBIR Channel 10 NBC Knoxville, TN
The son of a homicide victim is outraged after the detective who worked on his father's case said gay
people should die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V-0RPGOvDQ
20. The former New IFB member spoke on condition on anonymity. Because of this, although the
individual who called for the death of Ellen Degeneres is known, they will not be named.
21. Hell is proof God hates [2:39]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NREhKg0VlhY
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This is an excerpt from “Waging War Against The Sodomites” [32:21]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kma7wIP81ZI
22. Say no to sodomite soap! [3:53]
brothermanly316
(note that Manly promotes soap made by fellow NIFB pastor Michael Johnson)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu2PBDwJoPY
23. The Human Rights Campaign, Stances of Faiths on LGBTQ Issues: Hinduism, Last revised:
8/1/2018, https://www.hrc.org/resources/stances-of-faiths-on-lgbt-issues-hinduism
24. Steven Anderson has been banned from entering: Austria, Belgium, Botswana, Canada, Czech
Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Jamaica,
Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malawi, Malta, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia,
Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, The Netherlands, The Republic of Ireland, and
The United Kingdom [England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland].
Pastor Anderson Now Banned from 31 Countries
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWK2rcX3mJM
Govt. blocks anti-gay pastor from coming to Malawi
By Luke Bisani on Oct 26, 2016
https://malawi24.com/2016/10/26/govt-blocks-anti-gay-pastor-from-coming-to-malawi/
Malawi government says 'kill the gays’ pastor 'will not be received' in the country
Carl Collison 24 Oct 2016
https://mg.co.za/article/2016-10-24-00-kill-the-gays-pastor-now-trying-to-infiltrate-malawi
Malawi bans homophobic US pastor Steven Anderson - EWN
Lauren Isaacs, 28 October 2016
https://ewn.co.za/2016/10/28/malawi-bans-us-pastor-steven-anderson
Anti-gay preacher Steven Anderson banned from Ireland
BBC News, 13 May 2019
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48252527
Far-Right, Anti-Gay Arizona Pastor Becomes First-Ever Person Banned From Ireland Under
Exclusion Powers
By Christina Zhao On 5/13/19
https://www.newsweek.com/far-right-anti-gay-arizona-pastor-becomes-first-ever-person-banned-
ireland-1423359
Jamaica bars anti-gay preacher Steven Anderson
BBC News, 30 January 2018
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-42873266
Anti-gay preacher Steven Anderson banned from Ireland
By Tim Fitzsimons, May 13, 2019
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/anti-gay-preacher-who-applauded-pulse-shooting-banned-
ireland-n1005031
Botswana to deport anti-gay US pastor Steven Anderson
BBC News, 20 September 2016
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37418875
South Africa bars anti-gay US pastor Steven Anderson
BBC News, 13 September 2016
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37349683
Anti-gay pastor Steven Anderson banned from UK
Andy Walton Fri 16 Sep 2016
https://www.christiantoday.com/article/anti-gay-pastor-steven-anderson-banned-from-uk/95585.htm
‘Death to gays’ preacher Steven Anderson banned from Netherlands
Dutch News, May 1, 2019
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/05/death-to-gays-preacher-steven-anderson-banned-from-
netherlands/
Anti-gay preacher is first-ever banned from Ireland under exclusion powers
Controversial pastor Steven L Anderson has already been banned from most EU countries
Harry McGee – Political Correspondent, May 12, 2019
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/anti-gay-preacher-is-first-ever-banned-from-ireland-under-
exclusion-powers-1.3889848
25. A global New IFB “Soul Winning” event took place in 2018 which incorporated affiliated New
IFB home churches, local churches, and New IFB sympathizers, in the United States, England,
Scotland, Hong Kong, Japan, the Philippines, Kenya, Malawi, South Africa, Togo West Africa, Croatia,
France, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Sweden, Australia, and New Zealand. (New IFB
churches are located in those areas that are italicized)
2018 Soul-Winning Mega-Marathon
https://www.soulwinningmarathon.com/
26. from video “The New IFB Cult, Believe us or you are not saved” Need to find the actual video
and download it.
The New IFB Cult: Believe us or you are not saved [2:12]
Ex Andersonite
Published on Mar 1, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilpcegqFTNI
MP4 Downloaded For This Video
"Cleaning House" preached by Pastor Steven L Anderson [53:45]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krLIbNgUCuo
"The Works of the Flesh" (independent fundamental Baptist sermon) [1:10:24]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwXYyT-23Zg
New IFB Theonomous Beliefs

Steven Anderson is a theonomist; or, at least a selective theonomist, as are most if not all New IFB
pastors and adherents. His reprobate doctrine proves this without a shadow of doubt. The simply fact
that Anderson and his clones call for the death of homosexuals based (at least in part) on Leviticus
20:13 demonstrates this. A theonomist is one who believes that all divine law – which includes the
divinely given laws of the Old Testament – are applicable in all times and in all places. Whether 3,000
years ago or today, they are to be observed and enforced. Most theonomists will exclude the ceremonial
laws which were all fulfilled in Jesus. Anderson, however, even includes these to some extent in his
theology.
In the book of Leviticus we read about five different types of offerings: the burnt offering (Lev. 1; 6:8-
13; 8:18-21; 16:24), the grain (or meal) offering (Lev. 2; 6:14-23), the peace offering (Lev. 3; 7:11-34),
the sin (or purification) offering (Lev. 4; 5:1-13; 6:24-30; 8:14-17; 16:3-22), and the trespass (or guilt,
or reparation) offering (Lev. 5:14-19; 6:1-7; 7:1-6). The first three are considered voluntary offerings
and the last two mandatory offerings. Steven Anderson has lumped them all together into one offering,
which he calls “The Burnt Offering” (probably because all of the offerings are in some part burned on
the altar).
Anderson insists that because Jesus was a sacrifice for our sins, in order to be a proper sacrifice He
must be a burnt sacrifice. This is the basis for Anderson’s “Jesus in hell” doctrine. Anderson teaches
that Jesus died for our sins (he is correct about this), that Jesus was a sacrifice for our sins (and he is
correct about this), and that Jesus had to go to hell and be burned up as a sacrifice for our sins. (he is
not correct about this). In his interview of Dr. James White, Anderson said, “What’s the punishment for
sin? … He was a burnt sacrifice. Every sacrifice is a burnt sacrifice. Why is every sacrifice a burnt
sacrifice? Why is the Passover roasted with fire? Why is every sacrifice a burnt sacrifice?”1
The problems with Anderson’s “Jesus in Hell” doctrine are many; however, the two primary problems
are that one, Anderson only adheres to part of the law regarding burnt offerings. According to Leviticus
the burnt offering is to be a make with no defect: Jesus meets this qualification. It is to have it’s blood
drained: Jesus’s scourging could possibly be applied to this qualification. The priest was to sprinkle the
animals blood around the altar: this does not apply to Jesus. The sacrifice is to be skinned and cut into
pieces: Sorry Mr. Anderson, but Jesus was not skinned, nor was He cut into pieces. The intestines and
legs of the sacrifice are to be washed: Again, this does not apply to Jesus. And finally, the sacrifice was
to be burned on the altar all night, with its skin being given to the priest as a fee for his help in
performing the sacrifice. Again, this did not happen.
Steven Anderson insists that Jesus was a burnt sacrifice, and had to be a burnt sacrifice in order to be an
acceptable sacrifice. But his insistence taking the burnt sacrifice passages literal negates Jesus being an
acceptable sacrifice because not all the requirements were met. But this is what happens when someone
who does not understand the Bible makes an attempt to interpret it.
Christians have always looked upon Jesus as the final, ultimate, perfect, and acceptable sacrifice for our
sins. He fulfilled all the sacrifices once and for all time through His shed blood and death on the cross
(Heb.9:22; 10:1-10; Col.1:22; 1 Pet.1:19), thus opening a way, the only way, for us to enter the Holy
Place of God’s Presence (Heb.10:19-22), where we will offer our “sacrifice of praise” to Him
(Heb.13:15; cf. 9:11-28; 4:14-5:10).
For Steven Anderson to insist that Christ must also enter hell and while there be burned up as a
sacrifice is for Anderson to say that Christ’s shedding of blood, and His death, were insufficient. They
weren’t enough. In spite of Scripture saying the shed blood and death of Jesus are what redeem us,
Anderson adds to this the “Jesus in Hell” doctrine. Unsupported by Scripture, unsupported by Church
history (the Church has never taught this), and unsupported by anything other than Anderson’s own
twisted understanding of God, Jesus, Scripture, and salvation.
Not only does Anderson twist and arbitrarily apply the ceremonial laws of the Old Testament (as just
shown), but he also practices a selective, arbitrary and capricious form of theonomy when it comes to
the civil law as well.
There are 613 laws in the Old Testament, divided up into three categories: The Ceremonial Law (which
we have just addressed with regard to Steven Anderson and the New IFB), the Civil Law (which we are
about to address), and the Moral Law. Out of the hundreds of civil laws, Anderson and the New IFB
have chosen to call for adherence to only three of them, and those three they want enforced selectively.
The three are:
1. Homosexuals are to be put to death (Lev. 18:22,29; 20:13).2
2. Adulterers (Exo. 20; Lev. 20:10; Deut. 22:22-24)3
3. Rebellious teens (Exo. 21:15,17; Lev. 20:9; Deut. 21-18-21)4
Steven Anderson and the New IFB have made it clear they want homosexuals, adulterers, and
“rebellious teenagers” put to death, and they have no qualms about making the beliefs known on this
subject. What they are quiet about, however, is the other 610 Old Testament laws. If they are going to
be consistent in their beliefs then they must observe and enforce these as well. And if not these, then
what about the numerous other crimes the Old Testament law requires the death penalty for? What
about murder31/5 (Exo. 21:12,14; Lev. 24:17,21; Num. 35:16-21,30-31)? Surely Anderson and his
New IFB clones would support the death penalty for murderers. What about kidnapping32/6
(Deut.24:7), or kidnapping someone and selling them into slavery33/7 (Exo.21:16; Deut. 24:7), or
being found in possession of someone who has been kidnapped and sold into slavery35/8 (Exo.21:16)?
With the amount of slavery still going on today, would Anderson and the New IFB advocate for the
death penalty for human traffickers?
What about child sacrifice36/9 (Lev. 18:21,29; 20:2)? Rape37/10 (Deut. 22:25)? How about if the
daughter of a priest becomes a prostitute38/11 (Lev. 21:9)? What about those who set up anything over
God and are thus an idolator39/12 (Exo. 22:20; Deut. 17:2-5; Num. 15:32-36)? And what about those
who break the Sabbath40/13 (Exo. 31:14; 35:2; Num. 15:32-36)? Considering we are talking about Old
Testament law, will Anderson and his fellow New IFB adherents call for the death of anyone who does
not worship God on the Old Testament Sabbath day of Saturday?
And since Anderson and his clones have already publicly called for the death penalty for homosexuals,
adulterers, and rebellious teens, do they or will they also publicly call for the death penalty on those
who break any of the other Old Testaments laws against other forms of sexual immorality such as
people having premarital sex41/14, sex with a step-mother42/15, sex with a daughter-in-law43/16, sex
with an immediate family member44/17, sex with a step-sibling45/18, sex with grandchildren46/19,
sex with half-siblings47/20, sex with aunts and uncles48/21, sex with parents49/22, sex with a sister-in-
law50/23, sex with a woman who is mensturating51/24, sex with a neighbors wife52/25 like
Anderson’s hero Jack Hyles did, sex with a woman and her daughter or granddaughters53/26,
bestiality54/27, or if a man married both a woman and her mother in which case all three are to be put
to death55/28. Will they publicly call for anyone committing any of the admittedly vile acts to be put to
death? And while we’re on the subject will Anderson and the other New IFB adherents publicly call for
the death of Anderson’s former protégé, Donnie Romero who admitted to committing adultery, as well
as the prostitutes whom he was with?
There are many other acts which if committed during the Old Testament period in Israel would have
cost the perpetrator his or her life, such as abusing widows or orphans in any way56/29, or if two men
are fighting and accidentally hit a pregnant woman and cause her to lose her baby57/30, or if a man
owns an ox and that ox gores someone after having already gored someone else58/31. Anyone not
abiding by the decision of the court was subject to the death penalty59/32, so shouldn’t Anderson be
publicly calling for the death of anyone who violates a restraining order? If a non-Levite tried to set up
or take down the Tabernacle they would be subject to the death penalty60/33. Does this mean Anderson
will call for the death penalty for any non-Levite who works on the construction or demolition of a
church building?
The rape of an engaged virgin61/34, or if a man and an engaged woman meet and have sex then both
are subject to the death penalty, or if a man rapes an engaged woman he us subject to the death
penalty62/35. Witches, sorceresses63/36, mediums and spiritists64/37 are all subject to the death
penalty. No doubt Anderson will soon be publicly calling for the death of those who create horoscopes,
New Age channelers, herbalists, tarot card readers, palm readers, wiccans, witches and nature
worshipers. He will if he is going to be consistent in his beliefs and teachings.
The Old Testament Levitical law that Steven Anderson and his New IFB clones use to publicly call for
the “justified” death penalty for homosexuals and adulterers (or at least most adulterers), and rebellious
teens, also calls for the death penalty for anyone who attempts to get you to follow a god other than the
God of the Bible, whether it is a family member or friend65/38, or someone from another town66/39.
Should we expect to soon see Anderson and his New IFB buddies publicly calling for the death of
Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, or any other non-Christian religious group that has members going
door to door or handing out tracts and pamphlets? Or those who produce television and radio
commercials, programs and films designed to entice people to join their religion? Or perhaps they will
simply call for the death penalty of anyone who worships a god other than the biblical God67/40.
And finally, according to the same Levitical law that Steven Anderson calls on to be observed and
enforced, any woman who is found to have not been a virgin on the night of her wedding is to be put to
death68/41. Does Anderson intend to call for the public execution of the vast majority of women in
America? And according to the same Levitical law anyone who blasphemes the Lord, or take’s His
name in vain, or curses His name is to be put to death69/42. Will Anderson and the New IFB now also
publicly call for the death of anyone who takes the Lord’s name in vain? Or anyone who curses the
name of the Lord? These last two are the most important with regard to Anderson’s insistence upon the
observance and enforcement of Levitical law, a false prophet is to be put to death70/43; and a false
witness is to be put to death71/44. This is important because Anderson has publicly claimed to be a
prophet chosen by God Himself. And yet, the “Prophet Anderson” was unable to discern that two men
he personally chose, trained, and ordained to the pastorate – Richard Miller and Donnie Romero, would
simply abandon his pastorate and walk away (Miller), or fall into the grievous sin of adultery,
drunkeness, and drug use and be forced to resign his pastorship (Romero). Nor was “Prophet
Anderson” able to discern that three of his most trusted protégés – Domonique Davis, Garrett
Kirchway, and Tyler Baker, one of whom he ordained as deacon (Baker) in preparation of placing in a
new church, and another whom he had personally known for over eight years (Kirchway), were
actually Jesus only modalists.
Since “Prophet Anderson” was unable to discern the character and beliefs of these close and trusted
friends in these vitally important areas of their spiritual life; and since Anderson and other New IFB
pastors and adherents have publicly lied about many, many people, are they all going to publicly call
for their own deaths?
Granted, this particular section seems long and drawn out, however, it is important to fully expose the
hypocrisy that is rampant within the New IFB. Not simply in individual cases such as Donnie Romero
preaching “hard” against adultery while engaging in it himself; nor as Steven Anderson preaching
“hard” against entering casinos because just walking through the door can corrupt you, while at the
same time sending three of his followers into casinos in the Jacksonville, Florida area for the express
purpose of digging up dirt on a former New IFB member. Why? Because that is what they do. But
rather it is the wide spread hypocrisy of publicly calling for the death of homosexuals and adulterers,
while calling them reprobates who are incapable of salvation, while at the same time refusing to do so
for people in so many other cases that it would require them to call for the death of, and label as
unsavable reprobates, virtually anyone who does not fit the New IFB criteria for a Christian; as well as
refusing to place themselves in the same categories of deserving of death and reprobate, since they too
engage in practices the Levitical law requires the death penalty for.
In a display of crass / gross hypocrisy, not only does Steven Anderson not include his parents (both of
whom have committed adultery) in his condemnation of adulterers, and not only does not include
Donnie Romero – a self-admitted adulterer, in his condemnation of adulterers, but he continues to
include Romero on his hard preaching website (at least as of 28 July 2019), listing him as a “man of
God” (and a number of Romero’s sermons are still available):
Sources:
1. Dr. James White Full Interview 'NWO Bible Versions' [2:32:48]
framingtheworld
Published on Aug 11, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJrptikLjq8&t=834s
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2. The position of the Steven Anderson and the New IFB concerning their advocating for the death
penalty for homosexuals is well known and well documented. They went so far as to hold an entire
conference advocating for this in June 2019, known as the “Make America Straight Again” Conference.
3. John 8 and the Woman Taken in Adultery (He that is without sin among you…) [6:30]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69-h3y2BgTw
Avoiding Adultery [1:00:27]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhqTeGL2gdU
The Death Penalty for Adultery?
By Steven L. Anderson, Wednesday, June 22, 2016
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-death-penalty-for-adultery.html
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4. Although New IFB “Pastor” Jonathan Shelley’s sermon calls for the death of “rebellious teenagers,”
the passages given here refer to the similar issues of include disobedient sons, children who strike or
curse their parents, and stubborn and rebellious sons. Since they are similar, we will go ahead and
include them, as we are sure Jonathan Shelley would. His sermon on this subject is:
Rebellious Teenagers Are Worthy of Death #teenagers #badchildren #ifb [5:36]
Published on Jan 21, 2019
Pastor Shelley explains how the Bible teaches that Rebellious teenagers who are lazy drunkards should
be executed by the government. https://youtu.be/5KWOXWg7UYo
Full Sermon: “Honour Thy Father and Thy Mother – Pastor Jonathan Shelley
Streamed live on Jan 21, 2019
https://youtu.be/5KWOXWg7UYo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIns-wVlrw4
Parents Are Commanded By God to Spank Their Children #parenting #ifb #kjv [2:19]
Pastor Shelly explains from the Bible that parents who refuse to discipline and correct their children are
disobedient to God and hate their children.
Full Sermon: https://youtu.be/5KWOXWg7UYo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3vBKX-8vao&feature=youtu.be
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Texas Pastor Encourages Stoning Deaths of Rebellious Kids and 'Lazy Gamers,' YouTube
Removes Videos
By Benjamin Fearnow On 1/22/19 at 3:02 PM EST
https://www.newsweek.com/pastor-stedfast-baptist-fort-worth-stoning-jonathan-shelley-rebellion-
death-1300803
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“A Baptist church pastor in Fort Worth, Texas, said today's rebellious public school students and ‘lazy
gamers’ should be stoned to death as part of a societal lesson in obedience. Stedfast Baptist Church
Pastor Jonathan Shelley used Old Testament Bible verses to support his sermon this week against
rebellious sons and daughters and how to discipline such disobedient children in public schools—by
stoning them to death.
“‘[Young adults are] going to continue being more rebellious, more mocking, more arrogant, more
prideful,’ Shelley continued. ‘You see, it's never enough. They just want to keep mocking their parents
and disobeying their parents. You've got to squash out the rebellion in your child. You know how you
could squash rebellion in a public school today? Take the rebellious one out and stone him. I bet they'd
shapen up pretty quick. I bet they'd figure it out.’
“Shelley said society in 2019 is ‘destroying itself’ because the ‘prideful teenage jerks’ who are not
being put to death as the book of Deuteronomy demands. ‘The guy that's the lazy gamer saying, 'I don't
want to get a job. I just want to play video games all day and drink alcohol with my buddies,' that guy
should be put to death,’ Shelley added.”
5. Exodus 21:12,14; Leviticus 24:17,21; Numbers 35:16-21,30-31
6. Deuteronomy 24:7
7. Exodus 21:16; Deuteronomy 24:7
8. Exodus 21:16
9. Leviticus 18:21,29; 20:2
10. Deuteronomy 22:25
11. Leviticus 21:9
12. Exodus 22:20; Deuteronomy 17:2-5; Numbers 15:32-36
13. Exodus 31:14; 35:2; Numbers 15:32-36
14. Deuteronomy 22:21-24
15. Leviticus 18:8,29; 20:11
16. Leviticus 18:15,29; 20:12
17. Leviticus 18:6,29
18. Leviticus 18:9,29; 20:17
21. Leviticus 18:13-14,29; 20:19-20
23. Leviticus 18:16,18,29; 20:21
24. Leviticus 18:19,29; 20:18
25. Leviticus 18:20,29 [the affair between Jack Hyles and his neighbors wife was well known]
27. Exodus 22:19; Leviticus 18:23,29; 20:15-16
28. Leviticus 20:14
29. Exodus 22:22-24
30. Exodus 21:22-25
31. Exodus 21:28-29
33. Numbers 1:51
36. Exodus 22:18
40. Worshiping false gods and worshiping other gods is considered a death penalty offense in Levitical
law, Exodus 22:20; Deuteronomy 13:6-10; Deuteronomy 17:2-7
42. Leviticus 24:10-16,23
43. Deuteronomy 13:5; Deuteronomy 18:20
Hate and Violence Promoted in the New IFB

The hatred and hate speech of Steven Anderson and his New IFB clone pastors, has naturally flowed
over into Anderson’s followers – both in his own church, as well as in the other New IFB churches and
around the world; and flowed, and flowed, and flowed to such a degree that the entire movement is
infected with demonic hatred. Simply being in a discussion with them for only a few moments, and the
hatred begins to spew forth like just so much poisonous vomit. Here are only a few examples of
comments made by New IFB Andersonites on a few YouTube videos. A few examples out of hundreds
that have been collected out of the thousands that have been witnessed in researching this article.
The following have been taken from the comments section of a YouTube video posted by Andersonite
Benjamin “Ben the Baptist” Naim:
In another example of online violence, Ben "the Baptist" Naim, one of the popular rising stars in
Steven Anderson's New IFB Movement, gave his solution for crime in a blog article he authored titled,
"What the Bible prescribes for murderers and other violent criminals." Ben writes,
"Although soft, lefty, effeminate Christians shudder at the thought of capital punishment, the Bible
makes it clear that certain criminals should be put to death. In this article, I’ll talk about the BIBLICAL
solution for the violent crime epidemic sweeping inner city neighborhoods and other areas throughout
the United States and the world.
Murder:
"According to News4Jax, FDLE data show 112 murders in Duval County in 2017, six more than the
previous year. That’s 16.8 slayings per 100,000 Jacksonville residents, giving the city the highest
murder rate of Florida’s largest cities. By far.
"Here’s what the Bible says we can do to alleviate this problem:
"Leviticus 24:17 And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death."Put them to death. Perhaps if
the government followed Leviticus 24:17 for all offenders, Jacksonville wouldn’t be the murder capital
of Florida! Perhaps some broken neighborhoods (where it isn’t even safe to walk your dog down a
public sidewalk) would get cleaned up and transformed into less of a hell hole.
"Obviously, there should be a proper investigation prior to the appropriate punishment being dolled out.
"1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the
king, as supreme;
"1 Peter 2:14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and
for the praise of them that do well.
"1 Peter 2 tells us that the role of government is to punish evildoers.
"Putting a psychopath killer in prison, where they get fed and clothed, does NOT constitute
punishment. People who don’t get a life term inevitably become repeat offenders because prison does
nothing to inhibit them from falling back into the same situation that got them there in the first place!
Rape:
"Deuteronomy 22:25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie
with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die:"Feminists claim to fight against “rape culture,”
yet they’ve fully embraced Islam (where rape victims are executed under Sharia Law) and they reject
the death penalty for rapists. How does that make sense?
"The Bible says that if a man forces a woman, he should be executed by the government. This is how
we save women from being assaulted and this is how we make potential predators think twice before
acting on their disgusting impulse.
"Apparently, leftists want the government to subsidize abortion clinics for women to execute a baby
conceived through rape while allowing the rapist to live! This is pure insanity. According to the Bible,
the baby should live and the rapist should die.
Sodomy:
"All sodomites are violent predators who should be put to death by the government.
"The Bible tells us in Leviticus 20:13
"Levitcus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."This is
what happens when sodomites get their way, they compass a house looking for someone to victimize:
"Judges 19:22 Now as they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city, certain sons of
Belial, beset the house round about, and beat at the door, and spake to the master of the house, the old
man, saying, Bring forth the man that came into thine house, that we may know him.
"Judges 19:23 And the man, the master of the house, went out unto them, and said unto them, Nay, my
brethren, nay, I pray you, do not so wickedly; seeing that this man is come into mine house, do not this
folly.
"Genesis 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the
house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
"Genesis 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee
this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them."We see in both instances that homos
attempt to abuse another man because they have no conscience and no ability to discern right from
wrong. This is why the Bible refers to them as “beasts” made to be taken and destroyed.
"If our government actually followed Leviticus 20:13 and prescribed the death penalty for filthy
predators, far less children would be abused and recruited into the sodomite deathstyle and innocent
lives would be saved.
"Overall, the modern prison industrial complex is an abject failure designed to line the pockets of
wealthy elites who profit from mass incarceration. According to the Bible, the appropriate response to
violent crime is capital punishment — NOT a lengthy prison sentence where the offender gets to sit in
a glorified hotel at the tax payer’s expense."1
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Leaving a comment on Ben’s blogpost, I asked him,

“Hello Ben, I wonder if you would add adulterers to this list of those deserving of the death penalty,
since the Bible calls for their death in Leviticus 20, just a few verses before it calls for the death of
homosexuals? And if so, would you include both of Steven Anderson's parents who are living in
adultery, and Donnie Romero who has committed adultery? And what are your thoughts on Steven
Anderson continuing to present Donnie Romero as a "Man of God" on his website, almost 8 months
after Romero admitted to doing drugs, drinking, adultery, stealing $50,000 from the church, and (like
you) repeatedly visiting casinos?” (yes, I intentionally poked a wasp nest of heresy)
https://benthebaptistkjv.com/2019/07/22/the-biblical-response-to-violent-crime/comment-page-1/
#comment-3
Thus far, Ben has not responded.
And the following is taken from a video posted by Jonathan Shelley, pastor of New IFB church,
Stedfast Baptist Church Fort Worth:
And here Steven Anderson replies to CassieRae McMurtry, the wife of New IFB pastor Tommy
McMurtry. Note the high degree of respect Anderson displays toward Mrs. McMurtry:
The New IFB can be compared to a volcano with multiple vents that allow violence to escape. A
volcano with Steven Anderson as its god, “Stephanus Andersonus Vulcanus,” the New IFB god of fire,
manifesting in the fiery explosions of verbal violence erupting from the New IFB volcanic ventings.
These ventings can be placed into two main categories, minor and major. Of course there are more
minor ventings than major ones, and often with many unknown victims. But it is the major ventings,
such as the New IFB verbal assaults on homosexuals, that catch the eyes and ears of the media and the
world at large. As we examine some of these ventings, let’s begin with a look at the minor ventings,
and some of the unknown victims of the New IFB.
As with the vast majority of violent people, their verbal violence is only the tip of a very large iceberg.
Many people have seen the numerous videos on YouTube featuring the rantings, railings, and revilings
of Steven Anderson. Videos abound of Anderson kicking his pulpit, pounding on it, or jumping up on
top it all while screaming invective's at the top of his lungs2, and many have seen them.
What many do not see, however, is the aftermath of Anderson’s ranting. But there are some indications
that what we do not see may very well be terrifying. For example, at the Sunday evening service at
Steven Anderson’s Faithful Word Baptist Church on July 17, 2016, Richard Miller gave a sermon titled,
“What A Time To Be Alive.” Among other subjects in this sermon, Miller touched on what he called
the manly things, such as shooting guns, hunting food, and fighting. These are what men do and
women do not do according to Miller’s sermon. “It’s a manly thing to fight! It’s something that men
do,” Miller said. He went on to exclaim, “if you’re a man, you oughta love to fight!”3 It should be
noted that Miller was a protégé of Steven Anderson, whom Anderson later ordained to the position of
pastor, setting him up with his own church in Tennessee.4
And, of course, we have already learned about New IFB pastor Jonathan Shelley’s (another Steven
Anderson protégé ordained by Anderson) approach to child rearing: “If ya don’t want your kids to go to
hell, ya gotta beat ‘em! Ya gotta train ‘em, ya gotta chasten ‘em, ya gotta scourge ‘em! And we see very
clearly from this passage, it’s not a suggestion. Verse 14, ‘Thou Shalt Beat Him,’ that’s the same as all
the other Ten Commandments.”5 Clearly, Shelley believes child abuse is not only mandatory, it’s a sign
of love.
And this is apparently the same method of child rearing employed in the Anderson household as well.
Mrs. Anderson has written extensively about problems with modern child rearing methods. In one of
her blog posts she points out the benefits of the “rod of correction” and looks back longingly at her own
upbringing in East Germany with “old-school grandparents.”6 Former Faithful Word church member,
and executive producer of Anderson’s New World Order Bible Versions “documentary,” Paul Berg,
related in a YouTube video that when Anderson was told two of his sons had bullied another boy by
drawing a picture of the boy with feces on his face and calling him “poop face,” Anderson responded
by beating his two sons.7 Granted, bullying should never be tolerated, but drawing a picture of another
boy and calling it “poop face” is not all that unusual for young elementary school children and hardly
warrants much punishment at all, much less a beating.
Steven Anderson’s wife also weighs in on the subject of spousal abuse, giving advice to women who
are being abused by their husbands. In her blog article, “So You’re Married To A Jerk,” Zsuzsanna
Anderson writes, “Chances are that the ‘victim’ in this situation made their own bed. … my personal
observation has been that those who complain about their spouses...or think all the time what a jerk he
is, maybe are not a pleasant person to be around themselves. Maybe it’s them who is the problem? Just
hypothetically, let’s assume that a sweet, godly lady marries a nice godly guy. After they are married,
completely out of the blue, he changes personalities and turns out to be a complete jerk. What should
she do? Does she have any ‘recourse’?...The only biblical recourse for a horrible marriage, or any
marriage for that matter, is death. If your husband is an abusive, mean, hateful, fill-in-the-blank jerk in
spite of you doing your best as a wife, God can kill him whenever He wants to. If he is still alive, God
must still want you to be married to him. ...If nothing else, it will be a great lesson for the kids, who
hopefully will grow up and make wiser and more careful choices regarding their future spouse...”
Zsuzsanna doubles down in the comments section insisting there is no biblical reason to ever divorce or
separate from a spouse.8
Perhaps the most chilling example of the violence that Steven Anderson and the New IFB has
fomented, is the online presence of Andersonite Shawn Barnish. During Steven Anderson’s online live
Q&A on May 30, 2019, Barnish, a member of Anderson’s Faithful Word Baptist Church, was appointed
to moderate the online live chat along with fellow Andersonite Benjamin “Ben the Baptist” Naim. His
live chat responses to Roger Clay (an associate who has helped work on this article) were, of course,
typical of Anderson and his followers, full of invective's and slander. In one incident, Barnish told Clay,
“Shut up f****t.” Ben the Baptist then promptly expelled Roger from the chat.9
His vitriol, however, seemed to be just a notch above the standard Andersonite, and on a level fairly
equal with Ben the Baptist and Anderson himself. Because of this a more indepth investigation into Mr.
Barnish seemed warranted. In one video on his public YouTube channel, Mr. Barnish is driving through
the desert vociferously complaining about the U.S. Government, and not being the least bit shy about
using foul language in front of his pre-teen daughter (at least two of God’s commands were ignored by
Mr. Barnish in a video less than ten minutes long).10
Also on his YouTube channel is a hidden link that takes the visitor to Mr. Barnish’s website, “God,
Guns, Guts, and Glory.” On his website he features a link to Steven Anderson’s “The Bible Way To
Heaven” video, a link to his blog, and a link to a live chat feature which runs for those who are aware
of it, during Steven Anderson’s sermons. As already noted, the link to Mr. Barnish’s website is hidden
on his YouTube page, and not readily noticeable to a member of the general public.
When one clicks on Mr. Barnish’s live video chat, things become extremely disturbing as the visitor is
exposed to a video of a very graphic, very violent, very bloody murder of what is purportedly a
homosexual youth. The person posting this video claims it was taken in Jamaica. That a professing
Christian would allow a graphic video of a violent murder to be posted to his personal website for the
purpose of entertainment (of all things), and to an “alternate” and hidden Faithful Word Baptist Church/
Steven Anderson sermon live chat (again, for entertainment purposes), is beyond reprehensible, and
clearly demonstrates the depravity of the New IFB.
During Steven Anderson’s fourth “Live Uncensored” YouTube call-in program, I confronted Shawn
Barnish in the accompanying live chat about the murder video on his personal website, in the Faithful
Word Baptist Church live sermon chat. As you can see from the chat screen shot below, Barnish
initially tried to deny it, then tried to shift the blame on the chat program itself. When he could no
longer legitimately deny responsibility, his friend Benjamin “The Baptist” Naim stepped in and ejected
me from the chat.11
Before banning me from the live chat, Ben the Baptist could not resist condemning me to hell.
But when his bait was refused, he kicked me out.
Elsewhere in the chat, Barnish’s friend and fellow Faithful Word member, Osmar Ponce, chimed in
with a comment that was not only typical of Andersonites, but certainly in keeping with the murder
video on the FWBC Live Sermon Chat on Barnish’s website:
As we peel back the layers of veneer (thin though they might be) covering the New IFB movement, we
begin to see more and more evil in the form of violence toward others, to the point of eclipsing the
group that most often comes to mind when one things of violent pseudo-Christian groups – the
Westboro Baptist Church.
Fred Phelps (the founder and leader of the Westboro church) and Steven Anderson actually have quite a
bit in common.
– Both are listed as hate groups and hate group leaders by the Southern Poverty Law Center and the
Anti-Defamation League12
– Both are well known for their hatred of homosexuals13
– Both are rabidly anti-Semitic14
– Both are independent fundamental Baptist preachers (meaning they have no accountability
whatsoever)15
– Both oppose set apart Sunday School meetings16
– Both oppose Bible college17
– Both have been banned from foreign countries (Phelps from the UK, Anderson from the UK and over
30 other countries)18
In spite of the similarities, however, Steven Anderson has managed to exceed Phelps in the extent of his
hatred. Whereas Phelps had only one church, Anderson holds sway over a global network of like-
minded pastors, churches, and congregants within the New IFB movement. In his own church – upon
which all other New IFB churches are modeled, Anderson rules with an iron fist which he repeatedly
pounds on his large hollow pulpit (designed to reverberate with his pounding) with as much gusto as he
can muster; coupled with screaming at the top of lungs, both the words of his sermons, and also
invectives at some of those present. In short, Steven Anderson is a pulpit thug.
Sources:
1. The Biblical Response to Violent Crime
Posted on July 22, 2019, by Ben the Baptist
https://benthebaptistkjv.com/2019/07/22/the-biblical-response-to-violent-crime/
2. Steven Anderson's Hatred and Railing
Christopher Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpdkZwISgRg
Steven Anderson's Hatred and Wrath
Christopher Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2JgwH2ir0s
Pastor Steven Anderson Epic Rant
The Kragen Clan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Bvyp0gyQs&feature=youtu.be
Best Pastor Steven Anderson Rants/Hard Preaching pt 3
Baptist 1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUD0SIjWWAY
Pastor Steven Anderson Crazy Rants – Compilation
The Bible does not say that homosexuals are beasts. I think Anderson is getting that from 2 Peter 2 :12
that uses the word beast a few verses after mentioning Sodom and Gomorrah, but in context the verse is
talking about false teachers who are like beasts / animals in what they do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttxumEkHnKE&feature=youtu.be
Pastor Steven Anderson - Jeremiah 16
On!yDaTruth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TK3fA_iTQQ
Steven Anderson Is Losing Followers & Church Members
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djQgl3j6j0I
3. Christian Men Should Love to Fight
Elliott Ray
A clip from the sermon, "What a Time to be Alive", preached by brother Richard Miller at Faithful
Word Baptist Church on the night of 07-17-16.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hl3Da6n-a4
4. Richard Miller Pastor Ordination (Faithful Word Baptist Church)
Wendy Davis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76XT0GT32v4
5. Parents Are Commanded By God to Spank Their Children
Stedfast Baptist Church [Jonathan Shelley]
Video Description: “Pastor Shelly explains from the Bible that parents who refuse to discipline and
correct their children are disobedient to God and hate their children. Full Sermon:
https://youtu.be/5KWOXWg7UYo”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3vBKX-8vao
Rebellious Teenagers Are Worthy of Death
Pastor Shelley explains how the Bible teaches that Rebellious teenagers who are lazy drunkards should
be executed by the government. Full Sermon: https://youtu.be/5KWOXWg7UYo
6. Radical Unschooling
By Zsuzsanna Anderson, Tuesday, December 19, 2017
http://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2017/12/radical-unschooling.html
7. ARE THEY ALL YOUR BULLIES Pastor Steven Anderson Raising Bullies Tylah Baker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnu70-FWeHU&feature=youtu.be
8. Blog article: So you're married to a jerk...
by Zsuzusanna Anderson, Tuesday, January 18, 2011
https://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2011/01/so-youre-married-to-jerk.html
9. Steven Anderson Uncensored Live Q & A (#2)
sanderson1611
Streamed live on May 30, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDT2ACSxn1A&t=6325s
10. What is more annoying? No shooting signs or the Samsung S8+?
Shawn Barnish
Today after church I took my daughter out to Table Mesa (Exit) to go to the desert and do some
shooting.
It had been a little while since I was out on this road and we found that they added a bunch of new
signs. Conflicting signs at that.
A sign will display RULES FOR SHOOTING then the next sign 50 feet away will say NO
SHOOTING. So which is it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hXWaHyfvkQ&t=202s
11. Steven Anderson Uncensored (Episode 4)
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpZNRaII3EU
12. "Kill the homos" pastor and hate group leader Steven Anderson pushes into the Last Frontier
April 03, 2018, Brendan Joel Kelley
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/04/03/kill-homos-pastor-and-hate-group-leader-steven-
anderson-pushes-last-frontier
Westboro Baptist Church
SPLC Designated Hate Group
Westboro Baptist Church (WBC) is arguably the most obnoxious and rabid hate group in America.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/westboro-baptist-church
ADL Deeply Troubled at Upcoming Documentary Film Denigrating Jews and Judaism
New York, NY, November 24, 2014 … The Anti-Defamation League
https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/adl-deeply-troubled-at-upcoming-documentary-film-
denigrating-jews-and-judaism
Extremism in America: Westboro Baptist Church
https://web.archive.org/web/20100707223315/http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/WBC/default.asp?
LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=3&item=WBC
13. Anti-Semitic Arizona Preacher Steven Anderson, Who Says Homosexuals Should Be
Executed, Banned From Netherlands
By Kashmira Gander On 5/2/19
https://www.newsweek.com/anti-semitic-arizona-preacher-steven-anderson-homosexuals-executed-
banned-1412468
Pastor defends his anti-homosexual sermon
USA TODAY
Arizona pastor Steven Anderson defends his anti-gay sermon and beliefs. In a previous sermon,
Anderson can be heard explaining why he believes that the cure for AIDS is to kill all homosexuals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbSM_kxpObc
“God Hates Fags”
Westboro Baptist Church Homepage, Retrieved July 14, 2019
Weiner, Rachel (March 18, 2010). "Westboro Baptist Church Protests Outside Obama Girls'
School". The Huffington Post. Retrieved July 14, 2019
Melloy, Kilian (March 12, 2009). "Phelps Clan Met with Revelry and Frat Boys in Chicago".
EDGE Boston. Retrieved July 14, 2019
14. 'Marching to Zion' Official Full Film – Youtube
framingtheworld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=typ2pl2L47k
Texe Marrs Interviews Steven Anderson About 'Marching to Zion' Part 1
framingtheworld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vbUkXm8K3g
Texe Marrs Interviews Steven Anderson About 'Marching to Zion' Part 2
framingtheworld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HaBBRsHTOY
15. Faithful Word Baptist Church
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithful_Word_Baptist_Church
Fred Phelps
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps
16. Steven Anderson's Sermon against the Nursery and Sunday School
New IFBdot info
http://newifb.info/index.php/2018/09/...
Originally posted as "'Suffer the Children' Baptist Preaching against nurseries and childrens'
church"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E2M_rCeo4k
Westboro Baptist Church – Memo on the Church
July 21, 2002
https://web.archive.org/web/20090419130119/http://www.godhatesfags.com/written/wbcinfo/
memoonthechurch.pdf
17. Church vs Bible College
Rehoboth Baptist
Published on Apr 26, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAHz5h5pcNk
College Makes Women Stupid
Sanderson 1611
Excerpt from "Finish What You Start" preached at Faithful Word Baptist Church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAd0GPIYRsQ&t=46s
"College" and "School" in the Bible
sanderson1611
Excerpt from "The Bible College Scam"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb82LkIGWkQ&t=5s
MP4 for this video has been downloaded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnfL0W7t6mI
Young People: Don't Go to Bible College! [0:59]
sanderson1611
Excerpt from "The Bible College Scam" [1:13:53]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb82LkIGWkQ&t=5s
MP4 for this video has been downloaded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJEOhuvzeSg
Westboro Baptist Church – Memo on the Church
July 21, 2002
https://web.archive.org/web/20090419130119/http://www.godhatesfags.com/written/wbcinfo/
memoonthechurch.pdf
18. Far-Right, Anti-Gay Arizona Pastor Becomes First-Ever Person Banned From Ireland Under
Exclusion Powers
By Christina Zhao On 5/13/19
https://www.newsweek.com/far-right-anti-gay-arizona-pastor-becomes-first-ever-person-banned-
ireland-1423359
US Preacher Now Banned From All 28 EU Countries
May 2019 — Rob Quinn, Newser
https://start.att.net/news/read/category/news/article/newser-
us_preacher_now_banned_from_all_28_eu_countries-rnewsernor
Ireland bans homophobic and antisemitic pastor in first use of exclusion powers
Steven L Anderson is already barred from most of Europe as well as South Africa, Canada and Jamaica
Alessio Perrone, Monday 13 May 2019
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ireland-pastor-ban-steven-anderson-lgbt-
antisemitic-baptist-arizona-a8911236.html
"Anti-Gay Preachers Banned from UK". BBC Online. February 19, 2009. Retrieved July 14, 2019
"The Home Office List of People Banned from the UK", The Guardian, May 5, 2009, retrieved July
14, 2019
Case Histories
The Byrne Family Case
There are numerous videos posted on YouTube showing Anderson screaming at congregants and
visitors. Mocking them, taunting them, harassing them, belittling them, intimidating them, and so forth.
In the case of one now former member of Anderson’s church by the name of Kris Byrne, all it took was
discussing Anderson’s reprobate doctrine without Anderson’s knowledge (or presumably his
permission). Some of the conversation took place via text message, wherein Kris stated he did not
believe homosexuals were reprobate, and that Anderson was tampering with the gospel when he said
they were not eligible for salvation.19 Anderson eventually gained access to the text messages, and to
say he came unhinged would be an understatement.
What happened next was simply unbelievable. On June 26, 2016, Anderson stopped Kris in the parking
lot of the church. Kris relates that Anderson came quick walking up to him in an aggressive manner,
getting in Kris’s face and angrily saying, “I heard you’re talking crap about me behind my back,” much
like a high school kid trying to pick a fight. Anderson went on saying, “look, you have two options.
One, you turn around, you leave, and you never come back; or, you can come in and I’m going to
confront you in front of the congregation.” The members view of the situation was that he had done
nothing worthy of being kicked out of the church, and although Anderson was not being biblical in his
dealing with church discipline, the member was willing to go before the church and let them decide. So
Kris, his wife, and their four small children entered the church and took their seats. Little did Kris
realize what Anderson had in mind.
After the church announcements had been read, and some hymns sung, Anderson entered the pulpit and
immediately turned his sights on Kris, and it was not to bring the issue before the church as Kris
thought. Instead, Anderson began to vilify Kris in front of not just the congregation, but in front of his
wife and children as well. Anderson began to lie to his congregation by falsely accuse Kris of things
Kris did not do, attempting to paint Kris as an intentional trouble maker who has been harassing other
church members, and trying to divide the church. But no one had accused Kris of these things. They
came completely out of Anderson’s imagination.20
Anderson begins yelling at Kris, and soon jumps up on a chair in the midst of the congregation and
making derogatory remarks, calling Kris a coward, a Judas, an idiot, demanding Kris leave the church
immediately, and actually ordering the men of the church to “pick him up and take him out!” At one
point Anderson calms down his rhetoric for one brief moment and asks Kris to explain himself. But as
soon as Kris begins, the moment passes and Anderson renewed his verbal abuse and accuses him of
trying to take over the service.
With Anderson screaming and yelling at Kris, at his family, at his children, and with Kris’s children
understandably upset and crying, Anderson attempts to make it appear as if Kris is resisting, and he
again orders the men of the church to physically pick them up and remove them from the church. No
sooner than he gave these orders, several men approach Kris and are ready to physically assault him on
Anderson’s orders. Kris and his family, however, get up and leave the church. At this point, a visitor to
Anderson’s church who is clearly upset at the proceedings, attempts to stand up for Kris. Upon doing
so, however, Anderson turned on him as well, and kicks him out of the church as well while verbally
abusing him too.
And even after Kris and his family have left, Anderson continues to rail about him, continues to make
false accusations about him, etc. He goes on to encourage the congregation to come to him and tell him
anytime they hear of anyone from the church talking about Anderson. Anderson’s version of, “if you
hear something, say something.”21
Anderson’s obvious purpose for continuing his tirade against Kris and his family even after they left
was to get the congregation worked up and turned against Kris and his family. This is what Anderson
does. This is his modus operandi, his method of operation in dealing with those who cross him,
whether in reality or just only in his own imagination. Here are just four more examples, out of many
more similar cases..
The Carone Family Case22

While attending Steven Anderson’s Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona, Alyssa Farlow
was introduced to Nathan Carone, a long-time friend of both Steven Anderson and Donnie Romero.
Alyssa and Nathan became friends and eventually began dating. Everything was fine until they decided
to get married. It was at that point that both Anderson and Romero began a campaign of hate designed
to break the couple up.
Anderson could not sanction their marriage because Alyssa had been previously married. According to
Alyssa her previous husband entered into an adulterous relationship with another woman, and divorced
Alyssa to be with that woman. Although Scripture tells us that God hates divorce (Malachi 2:16), there
are instances where God allows divorce, such as instances of sexual immorality (Matthew 5:31-32;
19:9), and in cases such as Alyssa described:
“13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her,
let her not leave him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving
wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. 15 But if the
unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God
hath called us to peace.” (1 Corinthians 7:13-15)
When the unbelieving husband (such as Alyssa’s first husband) leaves the marriage (as he did), the wife
(Alyssa) is to allow them to leave and she is no longer bound to her marriage. She is released, and free
to remarry. But Anderson and Romero placed their own marriage restrictions over and above God’s
word, and forbade Alyssa and Nathan’s marriage, and actively worked to prevent it. This demonstrates
Anderson’s Pharisaical nature.
Amazingly, Anderson went so far as to call the Carone’s marriage adulterous, a crime for which
Anderson believes there should be public executions. When one looks at Anderson’s own family,
however, his gross hypocrisy quickly becomes apparent. For Anderson’s own parents divorced, and
they both remarried. Yet does Anderson publicly condemn them? No. Does he call for their public
execution? Of course not. Contrary to his publicly stated beliefs, he gives his parents a pass. He has
excused their actual adultery, while condemning what he subjectively defines as adultery in the case of
the Carone’s.
According to Alyssa, Steven Anderson and his followers began making disparaging remarks, and
dragging their names through the mud, in an attempt to discredit them. Donnie Romero began calling
them names, calling Alyssa, “Jezebel,” comparing her to the biblical Jezebel, a dangerously wicked
seductress. He went on to refer to her children as illegitimate “bastards,” telling her he could not see
how Nathan could be attracted to her, condemning her because she wears make-up, and both Anderson
and Romero pulling out all the stops in trying to convince Nathan to stop seeing her.
When Alyssa and Nathan ignored Anderson and Romero and were married in spite of them, Anderson
and Romero shunned them both.
The “Ashley & Kelley” Case23

The “Ashley & Kelley” case concerns two now former members of Anderson’s church with the names
Ashley and Kelley. Apparently these two women became friends with the Edwards family who also
attended Faithful Word Baptist Church.
The problem for Ashley and Kelley began when the Edwards family started to question one of
Anderson’s teachings. This incurred the wrath of Steven Anderson and also his more devoted groupies.
As the Edwards' began to experience the harassment that so many other have also experienced (and
more on this below), so Ashley and Kelley also experienced harassment.
Both Ashley and Kelley had internet blogs where they shared their thoughts on various subjects. As
“punishment” for their friendship and support of the Edwards family, both of their blogs were hacked
and horrible things began appearing on them, always under Ashley and Kelley’s name, thus making it
appear as if they themselves had written the blog entries.
Perhaps the most vindictive of the fake posts were on Ashley’s blog. In one of these posts, the hacker
went to far as to post what appeared to be a suicide pact between Ashley, Kelley, and the Edwards
family. The hacker tried to make it appear as if the suicide would take place on the fifth anniversary of
the Heaven’s Gate cult suicide.
Blog post allegedly made by “Ashley,” but actually made by a hacker believed to be a member of
Faithful Word Baptist Church. The mention of the Edwards family supports this belief.
Another post allegedly made by “Ashley,” but actually posted by a hacker on her personal blog. The
mention of the “Edwards family” and “Bro. David” (Edwards) supports the belief that the hacker was a
member of Faithful Word Baptist Church.
Yet another post allegedly from “Ashley,” this time claiming she and her sister have entered into a
suicide pact. This post was actually made by a member of Faithful Word Baptist Church who hacked
Ashley’s personal blog. The content of this post demonstrates the perverted pleasure this hacker derives
from causing others problems and pain.
Finally, the hacker posted anonymously to Ashley’s blog, in a post that is clearly a boast, going so far
as to reveal they knew Ashley’s password. There is strong speculation among researchers as to the
identity of the hacker. All evidence that points to this person is, however, circumstantial, and so they
will not be named. At least not at this time.
The Edwards Family Case24

The “Edwards Family” mentioned in “The Ashley and Kelley Case” above is actually David and Helen
Edwards and their then 12-year old daughter Iris. The problems for the Edwards family began when
Steven Anderson started preaching his bare breasts doctrine to his congregation, telling them it was not
only permissible for nursing mothers to bare their breasts during worship services, but also telling them
not to cover themselves with a receiving blanket, nursing cover, or anything else lest they cause
developmental or emotional damage to their babies.
Apparently some of the women of Anderson’s Faithful Word church were swayed by Anderson’s
teaching as they began to openly nurse their babies with their breast(s) uncovered. Helen Edwards was
naturally upset at this, as she did not want her family, particularly her 12-year old daughter, exposed to
such a thing. When she spoke out about it on her personal blog (which Anderson had monitored), she
was retaliated against. When David Edwards defended his wife, he too, and soon their daughter Iris as
well, became the target of retaliation by Anderson’s congregation.
Not the entire congregation, although after running them out of the church Anderson made sure he had
the congregation turned against them, and they were completely shunned and treated horribly.
Initially, Helen’s personal blog was hacked (just as Ashley and Kelley’s blogs were – see above), with
several terrible blog posts and comments being posted on it. Then David’s blog was attacked, and
finally a completely fake blog was created in Iris’s name, where the hacker posted several blog posts
while pretending to be Iris herself.
David Edwards’ blog post below demonstrates the desperation the family was experiencing due to the
harassment they were experiencing at the hands of Faithful Word Baptist Church.
Ashley responded in a positive manner to David Edwards, offering her support:
This, of course, placed Ashley and Kelley in directly in Faithful Word’s sights, and they too became the
target of the church’s campaign of harassment (see the “Ashley and Kelley Case” above). Soon, the
hacker began posting on David Edwards’ blog, pretending to be his daughter Iris:
This was followed by another comment, posted anonymously (likely the hacker, but possibly another
Faithful Word member):
Please note there is no compassion, no attempt at either exhortation or reconciliation, no love or loving
kindness of any kind. Just a “you deserve what you get” attitude. It was at this same time that the
hacker started to harass 12-year old Iris by creating a fake blog under her name, and pretending to be
her. Here are a few of the posts this person or persons made while pretending to be Iris:
That anyone, much less grown adults, attack and bully a young girl as these fine folks at Steven
Anderson’s church did is simply beyond the pale. It is simply outrageous behavior on their part. As
with the previous cases mentioned above, this too demonstrates the true nature of Steven Anderson and
the New IFB.
The Berg Family Case25

The Berg family case is interesting to say the least, and revolves around some accusations against the
Berg family made by Steven Anderson.
According to Steven Anderson, Paul Berg and his family were thrown out of Anderson’s church,
Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona. Also according to Anderson, his reason for doing this
was “perversion.” Anderson has explained that he investigated the situation “very thoroughly,” and that
there were “four eye-witnesses to this sin.” Anderson further claims that Paul Berg’s son “molested a
little girl that was like 8-years old,” that Paul Berg admitted this, that the boy was “15” and that he held
her down and repeatedly shoved his hand down her pants against her will, while she told him to stop,
and while other children from the church were spending the night at the Berg home. Anderson claims
the boy admitted doing this. Anderson says “it’s disgusting, it’s incest, it’s pedophilia.” Anderson says,
“I threw them out of the church and I turned this over to the police. I got rid of the problem. … let the
police handle it, if they botch the case, whatever. It’s not my problem. You know, I gave them all the
information that I had.”
Horrific what happened to this innocent little girl. What a monster she must have for a brother, and also
for a father who allowed this all to go on. Steven Anderson has publicly stated, “There was also
evidence from multiple witnesses of perversion on the part of Paul himself,” so there is little wonder
and even less doubt that he allowed it to happen, and probably took part in it himself. At least, this is
what Steven Anderson wants people to believe; and his statements both publicly written and publicly
stated in a video and to his congregation naturally lead people to come to this conclusion. The problem
is, however, none of it is true. It is all fantasy. Here is what actually happened.
The Pelota family (not their actual name) were good friends with the Berg family. Such good friends
that when the Pelota family needed a place to live, the Berg’s brought them into their home. During the
several weeks where the Pelota’s were staying with the Berg’s, the Berg’s 8-year old daughter
mentioned that her brother had touched her bottom. Mrs. Berg questioned her daughter and was able to
determine that all her son had done was literally touch is sisters bottom with his hand. That’s it. No
groping or caressing or anything like that; and nothing overtly sexual. As it happened, however, Mrs.
Pelota was present.
In spite of this revelation, the Pelota’s continued to maintain their friendship with the Berg’s, and
continued to stay with them until they were able to get back on their feet financially. At one point Mrs.
Pelota volunteered that she had been the victim of the sexual abuse several years previous at the hands
of a family member. The two families got along well, and spent quite a bit of time together. It wasn’t
long, however, that a problem arose between the Pelota’s and the Berg’s. Mrs. Pelota, as it turned out,
had a bad habit of being judgmental of others, especially other women. She would constantly refer to
other women as “whores” if they wore pants rather than dresses, or if their dresses did not meet Mrs.
Pelota’s standards. If they wore make-up or earrings she called them whores. Her behavior continued
even after the Pelota’s moved out of the Berg home and into their own house. To his credit, Mr. Berg
did not sit idly by and allow this, but rather, he confronted her, and rebuked her on several occasions
for her decidedly less than Christian behavior.
This resulted in a falling out between the Pelota’s and the Berg’s. Because of her sincere sisterly
affection for Mrs. Pelota, Mrs. Berg took the falling out exceptionally hard. She repeatedly attempted to
bring about a reconciliation between the two families, but was always rebuffed by Mrs. Pelota. This
served to exacerbate Mrs. Berg’s grief over the matter to a point where the Berg’s 8-year old daughter
took it upon herself to go to Mrs. Pelota and ask her to please be friends with mom again. During her
visit at the Pelota home, Mrs. Pelota was able to surreptitiously begin recording her conversation with
the young Berg girl, and she began asking the girl loaded questions such as, “Is your brother still
molesting you?” Regardless of how the girl answered, she condemned her brother. Mrs. Pelota
manipulated the young girl until she had a recording that would achieve a specific goal; and when she
had that recording, she took it to Steven Anderson. Anderson listened to the recording, and asked the
Pelota’s if they had witnessed anything. They responded yes, they had. Anderson then threw the Berg
family out of the church, and turned the recording over to the Tempe police department. Child
Protective Services (CPS) was also notified.
It should be noted here, that with regard to the recording secretly made by Mrs. Pelota, there are some
who mistakenly believe it was perfectly legal. These folks should actually take some time and study
Arizona law. Although it is perfectly legal to record anyone as long as one of the parties being recorded
knows this; the law also states that it is legal when the speakers (in this case Mrs. Pelota and the 8-year
old Berg girl) have “an expectation that the communication is not subject to interception under
circumstances justifying the expectation” ( A.R.S. § 13-3001), but when the speaker’s justified
expectation is non-existent it may not be legal (See State v. Hauss, 142 Ariz. 159, 164, Ariz. Ct. App.
1984). In other words, it may be legal to record an in-person conversation when that conversation
occurs someplace where there is no real expectation of privacy such as in a public place. However,
when the conversation occurs someplace where privacy is expected, violating that privacy can be found
to be illegal, thus subjecting the violator to possible criminal prosecution.
Furthermore, under the Parents Bill of Rights as passed by the Arizona Legislature in 2010 (A.R.S. 1-
601 / 1-602), establishes a broad rule of parents rights which includes the parents right to provided
“written permission before any videos or voice recordings are made of their child, with certain
exceptions (for example, security or surveillance of school property).” Therefore, the secret recording
made surreptitiously by Mrs. Pelota while she manipulated and coerced the young Berg girl in an
attempt to damage the Berg family may very well be illegal, and may very well be a felony.
And while it is granted that A.R.S. 1-601-B states specifically, “B. This state, any political subdivision
of this state or any other governmental entity shall not infringe on these rights without demonstrating
that the compelling governmental interest as applied to the child involved is of the highest order, is
narrowly tailored and is not otherwise served by a less restrictive means”; it does not specifically limit
A.R.S. 1-601 / 1-602 as applicable only to the government. And given the states dim view of non-
family members surreptitiously recording children, a court may very well apply this law to Mrs.
Pelota’s secret recording of Mr. Berg’s young daughter.
Additionally, in order to dispel another widely held myth regarding polygraph tests, Paul Berg
voluntarily underwent a polygraph test in order to prove his innocence. Something Steven Anderson
scoffed at and claimed the test was bought and therefore inadmissible. In one sense he is correct.
Polygraphs are inadmissible in a criminal court case. However, since there is no criminal court case
against Paul Berg, this is a moot point. On the other hand, polygraphs are perfectly admissible in a civil
court case. And considering that Steven Anderson was presented with the findings of that polygraph
which proved Paul Berg was innocent of the accusations being publicly set forth by Anderson, and
Anderson chose to present those allegations publicly in spite of this, demonstrates a deliberate and
intentional act of slander made by Steven Anderson against Paul Berg.
At any rate; both the police department and CPS began separate investigations into the matter. The
Berg family was questioned, with both of the Berg girls being questioned extensively. Although Paul
Berg himself was never the subject of any investigation, and never accused by the police or CPS of any
criminal activity such as rape or incest, during their questioning the Berg girls were asked if their father
had ever touched them inappropriately. Both responded with, “No.” The both investigations (police and
CPS) were professionally done and both were thorough; and both concluded there was no wrong doing
on the part of anyone in the Berg home. Touching his younger sister’s bottom while considered
inappropriate and uncalled for, was considered to be nothing more than the actions of a curious boy
who, while he should have known better, had acted in innocence. The investigations were closed and
no charges were ever filed.
During all of this, Paul Berg was never told by Steven Anderson why he and his family were being
thrown out of the church. Mr. Berg wrote a long letter to Steven Anderson explaining all that had
happened, and even attempted to telephone Anderson. Finally Anderson allowed a brief two minute
phone call. During that call, Mr. Berg repeatedly asked Steven Anderson what he was being accused of
and why was he being thrown out of the church. Anderson repeatedly refused to tell him why, saying
only, “You know. You know.” Mr. Berg protested his innocence of any wrong doing, and his assurance
that he would be able to stand before Jesus knowing he had nothing to be thrown out of the church for.
But Anderson would have none of it. In fact, he claims he recorded the two minute conversation with
Mr. Berg, and then sent the transcription and also the letter Mr. Berg had written to a forensic statement
analyst that had worked with the FBI. Anderson also claim he took the Berg girl’s statement and sent to
the same statement analyst. He claims the statement analyst concluded that Mr. Berg was certainly
guilty.
The problem with Anderson's statement here is that it too is untrue. There are two professional
statement analysts in the that entire area of Arizona. Both were contacted, and both stated that there
was no possible way to conclude any guilt based on the information provided by Steven Anderson, had
he actually contacted them and provided said “evidence.” There was no chain of evidence protocol in
place. Everything the analyst received would have been second hand from Steven Anderson. It is
customary for the analyst to conduct the interviews himself, to take statements himself. Not receive
them second or third hand, with all manner of evidence tampering or contamination possible. There
was no way for the analyst to know if the letter submitted by Anderson was actually written by Berg, or
if Anderson had tampered with it. There was no way for the analyst to know if Anderson actually
transcribed the two minute telephone call accurately. And most importantly, there was no way for the
analyst to know if Steven Anderson interviewed the victim properly or if he used leading questions to
coerce the Berg girl into saying what he wanted her to say.
This last issue is the easiest to answer. Anderson did not use leading questions in his interview with the
Berg girl. In fact, he didn’t use any questions because he never interviewed her. In fact, he never
interviewed anyone in the Berg family. Every accusation made by Steven Anderson against Paul Berg
and his son was based on the single, brief, and quite possibly illegally obtained secret recording made
by Mrs. Pelota. Steven Anderson made absolutely no attempt to substantiate anything Mrs. Pelota said.
Even after both CPS and the Tempe police investigators exonerated the Berg family of any wrong
doing, and even after Mrs. Pelota, Mr. Pelota and their two children all admitted to the police and CPS
that they had not actually witnessed anything at all, Steven Anderson still continued to spread these lies
about Paul Berg and his son.
In fact, the Sunday following the expulsion of the Berg family from the church, just prior to that
evenings sermon, Steven Anderson made it a point to let the congregation know that the Berg’s had
been kicked out, and then he went into some detail regarding just why he had made this decision.
Anderson titled his sermon that evening, “Thine Eye Shall Not Pity,” which he took from Deuteronomy
19:15-21. The irony of this should not escape anyone familiar with the situation. The passage read thus:
“15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he
sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be
established. 16 If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong; 17
Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the Lord, before the priests
and the judges, which shall be in those days; 18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and,
behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother; 19 Then shall ye
do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from
among you. 20 And those which remain shall hear, and fear, and shall henceforth commit no more any
such evil among you. 21 And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for
tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.”
There are several points in this passage that related specifically to the Berg family situation. They are:
1. Accusations must be supported by two or three witnesses. This was met by the Pelota family. Mr. and
Mrs. Pelota and their two children all claimed to be witnesses to the behavior addressed by the
accusations.
2. If a false witness makes accusations against anyone, it is the responsibility of the head of the church
(in this case Steven Anderson), to hear both sides of the story, and conduct a diligent and thorough
investigate to determine the veracity of the accusation or if the accusations are false. Steven Anderson
failed deliberately in this when he refused to tell Paul Berg what the accusations were, and when he
refused to question anyone in the Berg family – including the child who was allegedly victimized. And
he failed when he deliberately choose to accept the Pelota’s accusations without any question, and
continued to accept the Pelota’s accusations against the Berg family even when the police department
and CPS all determined the accusations to be false; and even after it was revealed that no one in the
Pelota family had actually witnessed a single thing related to the accusations. And, last but not least:
3. When it is discovered the accuser (in this case the Pelota family) has born false witness and falsely
accused someone in the church, the punishment that would have been required of the accused is to be
applied to the false accuser. In this point Steven Anderson has also deliberately failed in that he kicked
out the Berg family after they had been exonerated, and he continues to welcome the Pelota family
even after it was proven they had falsely accused the Berg’s. It should go without saying that in
deliberately refusing to obey God’s word, placed Steven Anderson is in rebellion against God. His
continual refusal to repent demonstrates that his rebellion against God continues even to this day, two
years after his unbiblical actions against the Berg’s.
Both the Pelota’s and Steven Anderson not only made slanderous and libelous statements about Paul
Berg, defaming him repeatedly to hundreds of people and damaging his reputation with these people,
and exposing him to all manner of retribution at their hand; but, they also involved children. Without
any regard for the truth, without any regard for the physical safety, or the psychological well-being of
these children, the Pelota’s and Steven Anderson released false information regarding these children
and sexual perversion to hundreds of people, and even thousands of people. Follow the progression.
Mrs. Pelota secretly records Paul Berg’s little girl, asking her manipulative questions of a sexual nature,
coercing her into saying what Mrs. Pelota wanted her to say. And remember, there is no evidence that
Mrs. Pelota did not edit that recording in order to make that little girl say something completely
different than what she actually said. Then, Mrs. Pelota tells her family about it. Now the spreading of
lies begins. Then she presents Steven Anderson with the secret recording and with her false accusations
about the Berg’s as well. Anderson tells at least his wife and then hands the recording (or a copy of it)
over to the police and CPS. The number of people who have heard these false accusations up to this
point have grown to at least a dozen or more. Then Anderson spreads the false accusations to his
congregation, thus spreading the lies to the several hundred in attendance. Then, Anderson makes a
video during which he repeats these false accusations and uploads the video to YouTube, makes it
public, and it can be seen anyone who simply clicks on the video. To date the video, along with the
false accusations, has been seen by more than eight thousand people. In addition to this, Anderson
repeats the false accusations in the comment section, and adds even more false accusations, where they
are publicly available for anyone to read, at any time, from anywhere in the world.
Although the state of Arizona had placed a statute of limitations of one year on the civil prosecution of
defamation cases concerning slander and libel, it could potentially still be possible for Mr. Berg to sue
Steven Anderson for slander and libel based on the video Anderson published to YouTube. Since he
slanders Paul Berg and his family in the video, and writes libelous statements about them in the
comments section, and he knowingly keeps the video and comments posted publicly for all to see even
after knowing the Berg’s were completely exonerated and that his comments are nothing more than
defamatory lies the argument could be made that Anderson is continuing to intentionally defame the
Berg family through slander and libel even to this very day.
Of course, as Steven Anderson goes, so goes his congregation and the rest of Anderson’s New IFB
movement. Nowhere is this more evident than in the comment section of Anderson’s anti-Paul Berg
video. Not only does Anderson continue to defame the Berg’s in the comment section, but so do many
others, both from Anderson’s Faithful Word church, but also from people connected to other New IFB
churches. Not only did Tommy McMurtry and Bruce Mejia, both of whom pastor New IFB churches in
Illinois and California respectively, chime in and make comments parroting what Anderson said; but so
did McMurtry’s wife, a member of a New IFB church in Texas, and more, all making comments based
on the false accusations made by Anderson in his video.
Fortunately for Steven Anderson, Paul Berg is a Christian, and as such he has forgiven Anderson, and
does not seek any compensatory damages for Anderson’s defamation of him. All he wants is Anderson
to apologize for what he has done, and repent of his sin. If only Anderson could and would exhibit the
Christ-likeness that Paul Berg has exhibited in this situation. If only. Until he does, however, Anderson
will continue to spread false accusations about people, lying about them, defaming them, mocking
them, and more, and exhibiting that he is far more like the world than like the Lord.
The Jeff Durbin Case26

In 2018, Steven Anderson, for some reason, decided to go after Pastor Jeff Durbin of Apologia Church
in Tempe, Arizona. While the reasons behind Anderson attacks on Pastor Durbin are unknown, it is
likely they come from Durbin’s association with Dr. James White, someone who has publicly taken
Anderson to task for his false teaching. As is normal for Anderson when someone calls him out as a
result of his false teaching, Anderson immediately attacks both them, and their family, and their
associates, via YouTube videos wherein Anderson will pull out all the stops in his attacks. This includes
tossing the truth in the trash when it conflicts with Anderson preconceived ideas about a person. His
attacks on Pastor Durbin are no exception.
To give a brief and necessary background on this subject, prior to the incident we are about to look at,
Steven Anderson had already publicly attacked and slandered not only Pastor Durbin (calling him a
drunk), but also his wife (calling her a drunk as well), and his church (calling it a flop, in spite of its ten
year – at the time – history, and its remarkable growth). With that being said, Steven Anderson next
sought out Pastor Durbin, finally engaging with him in a Facebook conversation. A conversation, I
might add, that Anderson himself copied and pasted in its entirety in a blog post on Anderson’s own
personal blog.
In his conversation with Pastor Durbin, Anderson begins by stating what is ostensibly his purpose in
contacting Durbin. Anderson writes, “I just wanted to ask you about your discharge from the Marine
Corps. I wanted to give you a chance to give your side. Apparently you were discharged for
homosexuality?” Notice Anderson does not actually ask a question here, but rather presents a
statement.
Pastor Durbin then responded to Anderson’s statement in a lengthy, but not overly so, response, which
he breaks down into three sections. First, pastor Durbin reminds Anderson that bearing false witness is
a sin. This is a response to Anderson’s previous attacks against Durbin, his wife, and his church as
noted above. Second, Pastor Durbin responds to Anderson’s statement that he was
“apparently...discharged for homosexuality.” Durbin’s response is that he has never been a homosexual.
This response answers Anderson’s statement very specifically. Third, although he is under no obligation
to do so, Pastor Durbin explains the actual circumstances surrounding his discharge.
Steven Anderson, however, soon begins to show his true colors, and the actual reason for contacting
Pastor Durbin as he ignores everything Durbin has told him, and begins to badger him relentlessly. He
asks Durbin six times, specifically, if he was discharged from the Marine Corps for telling his drill
instructor he was a homosexual. Anderson goes on an additional three times where he states this to be a
fact rather than a question. Anderson is obviously not interested in the truth here, but rather, he is only
interested in manipulating Durbin into a “gotcha” moment that will support the conclusion Anderson
had settled on before he even engaged Durbin in conversation. Even after Pastor Durbin tells him a
second time, again specifically, that he was not discharged for telling his drill instructor that he was a
homosexual, Anderson goes on to ask him an additional three times, and states it as a fact twice more in
addition to this.
Jeff Durbin’s patience during this conversation is both remarkable and evidence of his Holy Spirit born
humility. Anderson, on the other hand, is relentlessly obsessed (if not demonically possessed) in his
badgering of Pastor Durbin. Anderson then ends the conversation with yet more false witness when he
accuses Pastor Durbin of engaging in a “scam.” Steven Anderson isn’t done, however. Not by a long
shot. Soon after his Facebook attack on Jeff Durbin, Anderson presented a sermon to his congregation
regarding demon possessed preachers, wherein he attempts to prove (although he fails miserably) that
Jeff Durbin is demon possessed. Talk about irrationally obsessed! So obsessed that during this fifty-
eight minute sermon Anderson devotes an entire thirteen and a half minutes to Pastor Durbins alleged
homosexuality and discharge from the Marine Corps.
Anderson begins his rant (rant is really the only word that can describe this) by stating as fact that, “Jeff
Durbin joined the United States Marine Corps, and then told his drill instructor that he was a
homosexual. Jeff Durbin told his drill instructor in the U.S. Marine Corps that he was a homosexual,
and he was discharged a couple weeks later.” Anderson goes on, saying, “Now I confronted him about
this. … I finally got hold of him on Facebook, and I confronted him about this thing of him telling his
drill instructor that he was a homosexual and being discharged from the military and basically he wrote
me this super long wall of text just snowing me with all this irrelevant information.” As we’ve already
seen, this is a bald faced lie. Nothing in Pastor Durbin’s response was irrelevant, in fact, he specifically
answered Anderson’s claim that he was discharged for being a homosexual, by stating very clearly that
he had never been a homosexual.
Anderson then goes on to tell his congregation, “Hey, I had two witnesses. I got this out of the mouth
of two first hand witnesses, and was given documentation of it!” Again, this is demonstrably a lie.
Given Anderson’s track record, if he actually had two first hand witnesses to Durbin’s discharge he
would have trotted them out long before this. To date, he has failed to produce any evidence of the
existence of these so-called witnesses. Additionally, why would he even accept as true anyone’s claim
that Pastor Durbin was discharged for homosexuality, especially without knowing these so-called
witnesses? And lastly, Anderson claims he was given documentation of Pastor Durbin being discharged
for homosexuality. Again, this is not only a lie, but it is impossible. The only documentation that would
be available to Steven Anderson regarding Jeff Durbin’s military service would be his DD form 214;
which, by the way, is available on the internet, and it says nothing other than he was discharged
fourteen days after he started in the Marines. That’s it. And given there are any number of legitimate
reasons for this happening, not the least of which is the reason Pastor Durbin gave to Steven Anderson,
there is no way to truthfully say that Durbin’s DD-214 documents he was discharged for being a
homosexual.
Anderson goes on, “but it’s funny in this giant wall of text he never one time did he deny tel..so then I
just said, ‘look, it’s a simple question, are you denying telling the drill instructor that you’re a
homosexual?’ ‘well, I’m not gonna answer any more questions, and blah, blah, blah.’ I asked him like
five times and he won’t answer, he never will deny it, because it’s true.” Except that this is yet another
lie Steven Anderson has told his congregation, as Durbin has already specifically told Anderson that he
was not discharged for being a homosexual. Twice. But the truth does not matter to Steven Anderson,
and he proves this by then saying, “this is the story, and it’s confirmed [no it isn’t], and he’s not denying
it [yes he did, twice]. And it’s out of the mouth of two witnesses [he continues to fail to produce these
witnesses]. He said to the drill instructor that he’s a sodomite [bald-faced lie]. That he’s a homo [a lie].
And the drill instructor basically demanded that he prove that [and yet another lie]. And basically, as a
result, he got that reputation for being a sodomite [Anderson can’t stop lying at this point], and so he
was persecuted and then that led to his discharge a few weeks later.” One lie after another lie, after
another lie, after another. This is standard Steven Anderson fare.
And he continues to lie throughout his rant. Even after pulling out a printed copy of the conversation he
had with Pastor Durbin, and staring at it, and reading it to himself, he continues to misrepresent Pastor
Durbin, and continue in his lying spree. “This is not something from his past that he repented of an
forsook” Anderson says. But there was nothing for Durbin to repent of! Anderson just can’t accept that.
It is as if Durbin has to be a homosexual in order for Anderson’s world to set aright at this point. He
literally begins ranting, so much so that one can almost see the spittle flying from his lips as he goes on
like a mad man. “He’s lying!” Anderson says, “and sending me this deceptive wall of text, this non-
denial! … and won’t admit the simple fact that he told his drill instructor that he was a homo! He won’t
admit that even though I asked him five, six times!” And yet, Durbin did respond, and he denied it
twice; both time very clearly, very specifically, and very much ignored by Anderson.
Anderson continues, “I said look, I’m giving you one more chance, did you tell the drill instructor that
you’re a homo? … I ask him five, six times, it’s just this wall of text about, ‘oh, you don’t understand,
you know, I left voluntarily.’ yeah, we know that you were trying to get out of the Marine Corps ’cause
you couldn’t cut the mustard.” An interesting comment coming from someone who was never man
enough to sign up. Pastor Durbin may not have stayed in, but at least he had enough backbone to try.
Anderson goes on, “But that’s not the point, okay? … and then finally I said, ‘Okay, last chance.’ I said,
‘Let’s try this one more time. Last chance. Are you denying you told the drill instructor that you were a
homosexual?’ … I mean, you know, I asked him every..six different ways from someway..Sunday, he
won’t deny it.” And yet again, Anderson has lied to his congregation. If anyone in his congregation had
bothered to read Anderson’s blog, they would easily and quickly see that Durbin denied Anderson’s
false allegations not once, but twice.
And if anyone bother’s to look at Anderson’s blog article about this, they will see something else that is
very interesting (and which relates directly to the above “Berg Family Case”), and that is the analysis
done of Jeff Durbin’s written responses to Steven Anderson during their Facebook conversation. They
were not done by a professional statement analyst, but rather by Anderson’s wife Zsuzsanna. At the
beginning of the blog post, Anderson wrote, “Disclosure: This analysis was done by the wife of Steven
Anderson, while carefully following principle. Still, the reader should bear in mind that there could be
bias present on the part of the analyst in favor of Steven Anderson that cannot be fully overcome.”
Could be bias? Hmmmm? Let’s see. According to Zsuzsanna Anderson’s “analysis” of Jeff Durbin’s
written responses to Steven Anderson’s badgering, Pastor Durbin’s responses of, “I was absolutely
NEVER kicked out of the Marines for being a homosexual. I never have been a homosexual.”, about
this response, Zsuzsanna writes, “This is not a reliable denial. … The original question asked of the
subject was, ‘Apparently you were discharged for homosexuality?’ In his ‘denial,’ the subject changes
‘discharged’ to ‘kicked out.’ This begs the question whether the subject has a different internal
definition of discharged vs. kicked out. … The unusual sentence structure is noted, with ‘never’ coming
before ‘have.’ Using ‘never’ allows the subject to avoid saying ‘I have not been..’ As stated above,
never is vague in time and thus not reliable.”
There you have it folks. Using the common verbiage of “kicked out” rather than “discharge” (which is
common when referring to someone involuntarily discharged as Anderson is doing) is some form of
avoidance; and saying he was not kicked out for being a homosexual and has never been a
homosexual” is “not a reliable denial.” It is painfully obvious that the truth matters not to either Steven
Anderson nor his wife, as both had it clearly established in their minds that Jeff Durbin was guilty as
charged by Steven Anderson, regardless of the fact that Anderson has no proof, regardless of the fact
that the charges leveled by Steven Anderson were denied by the one person who would have
knowledge of this.
But Steven Anderson was determined to slander and smear Jeff Durbin. This is what he set out do to,
and this is what he did. In fact, Anderson has been so determined to slander and smear Pastor Durbin,
that he has produced a full dozen anti-Durbin videos that he has posted publicly on YouTube. Naturally,
Anderson’s actions have resulted in several additional anti-Durbin videos being posted to YouTube by
New IFB’ers “Ben the Baptist,” “The New IFB,” and others; as well as a plethora of anti-Durbin hate
speech posted by New IFB’ers in the comments sections of these videos. Comments such as:
william graw
And who says "Christians won't gleefully take the mark of the Beast". Durtbin is the drum major
marching christians [sic] to Hell.
Evangelist Baptist John Worley

Never heard of the lieing [sic] bastard. Jeff until recently. Skinnky [sic] jean wearing sissy
Bill Macgregor
Faggy voice and gestures, thumb ring, queer necklace, tattoos, beard, all go together.
FBG Custom Auto Lighting

Bill Macgregor can’t forget the V neck. How can someone dress so ridiculous and think God approves
Pastor Durbin’s good friend, Dr. James White, who is an Elder and the “Scholar in Residence” at
Durbin’s Apologia Church, has fared about as well as Pastor Durbin, with more than a dozen videos
condemning and slandering Dr. White posted to YouTube by Steven Anderson and New IFB’ers “Ben
the Baptist, Jason Robinson, Joe Major, Paul Niven, Paul Wittenberger, and more. And, of course, the
innumerable New IFB comments that slander Dr. White and say all manner of vile things about him.27
The Harper Family Case28

One of the most heart rending cases of abuse by the New IFB is the Harper Family case. Steven Harper
and his family were members of Stedfast Baptist Church in Fort Worth, Texas. They began attending
several years ago, long before the Donnie Romero scandal, and while Romero was the pastor of
Stedfast. Romero had been groomed by Steven Anderson personally, for the express purpose of moving
out from Anderson’s Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona (where Romero was attending as
a member) to Fort Worth to start another New IFB church there. This he did, eventually becoming
“independent” from Anderson’s mother church in Tempe. As mentioned previously, this is the preferred
method of expansion used by Steven Anderson and the New IFB.
After the Romero scandal was made public (Pastor Romero publicly confessed to using drugs, having
affairs with prostitutes, and numerous visits to casinos, plus Steven Anderson allegedly stated that
Romero had stolen $50,000 from the church to fund these sins), it was also made public that Steven
Harper’s special needs son had been sexually abused. Harper himself has made these accusations public
via various YouTube videos he has posted online.
According to Steven Harper, one of Donnie Romero’s children had been “touching” Harper’s son’s
“private areas.” Harper claims this was substantiated by another member of Stedfast Baptist Church,
who told him that Romero’s child had done this to other children as well. The person who substantiated
this, also told another couple who attended Stedfast Baptist Church, and it was agreed by these two (not
Steven Harper) that they would simply keep their children away from the Romero children, and keep a
better eye on their own children. They also told Steven Harper and his wife that they would also keep
an eye on their special needs son. They apparently did not want to confront Donnie Romero about the
abuse inflicted by his child on other, younger, children. Not confronting the pastor is a standard practice
within the New IFB, and doing so can lead to excommunication and complete shunning and
ostracization of the person confronting the pastor, as well as their entire family. We have seen this New
IFB form of discipline in the cases of the Berg family, the Edwards family, and others.
Steven Harper, to his credit, refused to allow the matter to be put to rest, and he began investigating it.
Initially, he refused to accept that Donnie Romero’s child had done this terrible thing to his young son.
This is likely due to the New IFB practice of not confronting one’s pastor. This and other New IFB
doctrines are repeatedly pounded into the heads of the members of New IFB churches. Because of this
New IFB “thought control” (for ultimately this is what it is), Steven Harper looked to Donnie Romero
for help in finding out who had abused his son. Romero was only too happy to be kept in the loop, and
he insisted that every time Harper was contacted by the police, or contacted the police himself
regarding this matter, that Harper immediately let Romero know what the police had discovered, or
were asking. Very suspicious behavior to say the least, and leading one to believe that Romero’s child
was involved, and that Romero knew about it.
Then the scandal broke, and Romero was removed by Steven Anderson from the pastorate of Stedfast
church. So much for being an independent church. Anderson then brought in another of his personally
groomed and ordained “pastors” to replace Donnie Romero at Stedfast (and both Stedfast satellite
churches, in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma and Jacksonville, Florida). This man was Jonathan Shelley.
During the time between the removal of Donnie Romero and the installation of Jonathan Shelley,
Anderson held two private, or secret, meetings between himself and the men of Stedfast Fort Worth. At
the first meeting there were only five men in attendance in addition to Steven Anderson. They were
Steven Harper, Kevin Edelman, John Stebner, Emmanual Zermano, and Jessie Michaels. Anderson
insisted there be no recording of the meeting. It was during this meeting that Anderson told the men in
attendance that Donnie Romero had stolen $50,000 of church money to fund his escapades with drugs,
gambling, and prostitutes (thus indicating he was personally aware of the crime committed by
Romero), and then, again according to Steven Harper, Anderson told the men in attendance that they
were not to tell anyone of Romero’s crime, because, “we have to keep Donnie out of jail.” (this too is a
crime in Texas, thus opening Anderson up to potential prosecution for fraud/embezzlement, and aiding
and abetting. In Texas, those who fail to report a crime they have personal knowledge of, and actively
engage in protecting the criminal and thus hindering law enforcement, can be tried not just for this
crime, but also for the crime committed by the initial offender – in this case, Donnie Romero).
Anderson’s insistence that Donnie Romero be protected and kept out of jail, apparently extended to the
abuse Harper claims his son suffered at the hands of Donnie Romero’s child. When Steven Harper took
the information he had gathered to Jonathan Shelley for his help, Shelley intentionally drug his feet,
and did nothing to help Harper and his family. According to Harper, Shelley’s primary concern was if
there were eye witnesses to the abuse. According to Steven Harper, Jonathan Shelley told him that if no
one personally witnessed the abuse, then there was nothing he could do to help Harper. When Jonathan
Shelley was asked about his investigation into these claims of sexual abuse, Shelley stated that he
asked Donnie Romero about it and Romero told him the accusations were not true. Apparently this was
all Shelley needed to hear, although one has to question the wisdom of conducting an “investigation”
which consisted of asking father of the accused if their child was a sexual abuser, and calling it all goo
when they say, “No, of course not.” Harper says that Shelley continued to stall him and put him off,
until the Harper’s decided they could no longer attend Stedfast Baptist Church, Fort Worth; and he told
Shelley as much.
On the Sunday after the Harper family left Stedfast church, Jonathan Shelley stood up in the pulpit and
publicly accused Steven Harper of making false accusations, and railing against members of the
church. Shelley stated that he had done a thorough investigation (which by his own admission was
anything but thorough) and found Harper’s accusations to be false. He stated that he had interviewed
those involved (Harper had given him the names of the other church members who had knowledge of
the abuse), and that they had denied anything took place. Please remember that in an interview,
Jonathan Shelley stated his investigation was comprised of asking Donnie Romero, not talking to those
whom Harper knew to be witnesses.
Coincidentally (or not) when Harper and his wife contacted those church members after Shelley’s
sermon, they all denied having any knowledge of the abuse (in spite of earlier stating they did have
such knowledge, and were willing to stand with the Harper’s and testify to what they knew), and they
told the Harper’s it was now someone elses’s problem. They also began to shun the Harper’s and treat
them as outcasts. Shelley also claimed to be in possession of a recording wherein Mrs. Harper allegedly
told the Fort Worth police that no one in Texas had anything to do with the abuse. During the interview
with Shelley, he claimed he received the recording from Donnie Romero. How Romero would have
managed to gain access to what should have been evidence in a sexual abuse investigation is unknown,
but very questionable.
When Jonathan Shelley excommunicated the Harper family, he ensured by this action that the Harper
family would be shunned and ostracized, completely cut off from all friends and family still attending
Stedfast and/or any other New IFB church. This is, of course, a standard practice within the New IFB,
and serves to keep the members in check and subservient to the church leaders. As a result, the
Harper’s were set adrift to deal with the aftermath of the abuse by themselves. No Stedfast member
would associate with them, much less help them.
The New IFB points to 1 Timothy 5:19-20 as biblical support for this practice. The passage reads:
“19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses. 20 Them that sin
rebuke before all, that others also may fear.”
The first verse in this passage, verse 19, is interpreted by the New IFB as “never question or confront
the pastor. Period.” For those who do, however, they look to verse 20 as support for the public shaming
of the person and their family from the pulpit, as well as their shunning. In other words, if you question
or accuse the pastor (or in the case of Steven Harper, the former pastor, Donnie Romero), then you are
in sin and must be punished. And this is exactly what Jonathan Shelley did. Not only based on 1
Timothy 5:19-20, but also on Steven Anderson’s order to keep Donnie Romero out of jail.
Since Steven Harper went public with the abuse of his young son, the family has been treated in much
the same way as others before them, such as the Berg family and the Edwards family. Like the Berg
family, the Harper’s have had child protective services called on them. Like the Edwards family, a
person from Stedfast church created a fake Google account, and then went on YouTube pretending to
be Steven Harper. In comments posted by the fake Steven Harper, this person pretending to be Mr.
Harper posted a “confession” that he had been sexually molesting his own son. The fake account was
soon thereafter deleted. Unlike the other families who found themselves victims of abuse at the hands
of the New IFB, the Harper family also received threats of both physical violence and death. All of this
allegedly from members of Stedfast Baptist Church, Fort Worth. Nice folks those New IFB.
Because of the twisted interpretation of this Bible passage and their accompanying unbiblical practice,
the Steven Harper family was left to suffer and bear these burdens, and their young son left to remain a
silent victim, while his abuser is left alone. While some may look at this and think, “well, this is all
hearsay, all based on Steven Harper’s word.” Well, that isn’t entirely true. What many do not know is
that after they left the church, Donnie Romero’s wife sent text messages (plural) to the Harper family,
apologizing for ruining their lives. The only thing the Romero’s did to ruin the lives of Steven Harper
and his wife and young son, was to abandon them after their child allegedly abused the Harper’s young
son; and do nothing to stop the abuse. That’s it. We will leave it up to the reader to decide what Mrs.
Romero meant by her repeated cryptic message; as well as strongly encourage the reader to continue in
prayer for both the Harper family and the Romero family.
A former member of the New IFB interviewed for this article series spoke only on the express
condition of anonymity, expressing a sincere fear of Steven Anderson and the New IFB. This person
stated that Anderson and his followers will “try and ruin your life publicly if they possibly can. They
don’t care about your family, your kids, they don’t care about innocent people or good men.”
The behavior displayed by Steven Anderson and the New IFB toward the Carone family, the Berg
family, the Edwards family, Jeff Durbin, The Harper family and others mentioned in this chapter prove
this beyond any reasonable doubt.
Sources:
19. Text Messages Between Kris Byrne and Russell Bopst, June 13-26, 2016, PDF on file, accessed
July 14, 2019.
Text Messages Between Kris Byrne and Ramon Ventura, June 20, 2016, PDF on file, accessed July
14, 2019.
20. My account of being kicked out of the Anderson Show (aka Faithful Word Baptist Church /
FWBC) [33:22]
Kontrarian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2x5DlNR_74&feature=youtu.be
21. Pastor Anderson kicking out an unrepentant trouble maker [7:10]
Craig Dohner
Published on Nov 16, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBGxGKmLZgg
22. Personal email from Alyssa Carone dated July 5, 2019. on file.
Answering Email About Donnie Romero Divorce Options… [38:22]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71uX6v3Qcmk
Answering Email About Romero & The "New IFB"… [28:22]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGe697C1bsc
My Response To Pig Pastor Donnie Romero's "Apology" [14:40]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-c2zAVo65k
Was I Too Harsh On Donnie Romero… [20:17]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRu4I9WWS7w
Pig Pastor Romero Caught With Prostitutes After Condemning My Makeup… [23:35]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2tXLRVZTjk
Pastor Romero Caught With Prostitutes After Condemning My Makeup Part 2 [28:01]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jstuOOeA0xA
Trusting In The Sovereignty Of God When People Are Evil Like Donnie Romero… [34:01]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pl3n6fWHaM
My Wife Zsuzsa - Part 14
Friday, March 22, 2013
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2013/03/my-wife-zsuzsa-part-14.html
My mom, Susan Anderson...
Memorial Service for Grandma (Helen Anderson)
Tuesday, October 2, 2018
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2018/10/memorial-service-for-grandma-helen.html
Left to right: Clint, Spring, Dad, Denise, Myself, Zsuzsa, Matt, Lisa, Bobby, Raani
Per Public Records:
Steven Anderson’s Father is: Raymond Richard Anderson, DOB 1950
Steven Anderson’s Mother is: Susan Jeanene Tackaberry, DOB 1950
They divorced and remarried to:
Raymond Richard Anderson to Denise Ann Nicholls, DOB 1966 [they live in Roseville, Calif]
Susan J Tackaberry Anderson to Lance L Hagler, DOB 1952 [they live in Citrus Heights, Calif]
Divorce + Remarriage = Adultery! [1:56]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzodigNPgNw
23. Confidential Source who has asked to remain anonymous due to fear of Anderson and his
followers, explaining they have personally witnessed New IFB members conducting coordinated
attacks on former members, explaining they have a single goal and that is to destroy their victim
without regard as to how they accomplish this, and without regard to destroying the victims spouse or
children in the process.
24. Confidential Source who has asked to remain anonymous due to fear of Anderson and his
followers, explaining they have personally witnessed New IFB members conducting coordinated
attacks on former members, explaining they have a single goal and that is to destroy their victim
without regard as to how they accomplish this, and without regard to destroying the victims spouse or
children in the process.
25. Video: Lie Detector Proves Pastor Steven Anderson to be a Liar and False Accuser of the
Brethren, This one hour forty-five minute video was produced by Paul Berg in response to Steven
Anderson’s decision to put Berg and his family out of the church, based solely on lies, false
accusations, and misleading false information. The video is not available online. A copy of this video in
its entirety is on file with the author.
Video: Are They All Your Bullies? Pastor Steven Anderson Raising Bullies? [5:08]
Tylah Baker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnu70-FWeHU&t=30s
MP4 of this video has been downloaded
Video: Response to Paul Berg [15:57]
This is a response to Paul Berg's video entitled: LIE DETECTOR PROVES PASTOR STEVEN
ANDERSON TO BE A LIAR AND FALSE ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPQssMNb9B4
MP4 of this video has been downloaded
Email from Advanced Interview Concepts of Harrisburg, North Carolina. Email on file.
Email from Truth2Lies Analysis Group, LLC of Tempe, Arizona. Email on file.
Arizona Revised Statutes 1-601 Parents Rights Protected
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/1/00601.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 1-602 Parents Bill of Rights Definition
Arizona Revised Statutes 12-731 Recovery of civil damages
https://www.azleg.gov/viewdocument/?docName=https://www.azleg.gov/ars/12/00731.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-601 Classification of offenses
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-603 Authorized disposition of offenders
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-702 First time felony offenders; sentencing; definition
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-801 Fines for felonies
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-3001 Eavesdropping and Communications: Definitions
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-3005 Interception of wire, electronic and oral communications;
installation of pen register or trap and trace device; classification; exceptions
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-3012 Eavesdropping and Communications: Exemptions
State v. Hauss, 142 Ariz. 159, 164 (Ariz. Ct. App. 1984).
https://casetext.com/case/state-v-hauss-1
Arizona Wiretapping Law
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/arizona-recording-law
Arizona's wiretapping law is a "one-party consent" law. Arizona makes it a crime to intercept a "wire or
electronic communication" or a "conversation or discussion" unless you are a party to the
communication, present during the conversation or discussion, or one party to the communication or
conversation consents. A.R.S. § 13-3005, -3012(9). Therefore, if you operate in Arizona, you may
record a conversation or phone call if you are a party to the conversation or you get permission from
one party to the conversation in advance. That said, if you intend to record conversations involving
people located in more than one state, you should abide by the recording law of the most restrictive
state involved, or play it safe and get the consent of all parties.
The wiretapping law covers oral communications when the speakers have "an expectation that the
communication is not subject to interception under circumstances justifying the expectation," A.R.S. §
13-3001, but absent the speakers' justified expectation, the law does not apply. See State v. Hauss, 142
Ariz. 159, 164 (Ariz. Ct. App. 1984). Therefore, you may be able to record in-person conversations
occurring in a public place, such as a street or restaurant, without consent. However, you should seek
the consent of one or all of the parties before recording any conversation that an ordinary person would
deem private.
Violation of the Arizona law is a felony, punishable by imprisonment and fine. See A.R.S. §§ 13-601, -
603, -702, and -801 for more details.
In addition, while recording a conversation with the consent of only one party is legal in Arizona, a
lawyer's recording of a conversation without the consent of all parties may be unethical under the
Arizona Rules of Professional Conduct. See State Bar of Arizona Ethics Opinions 75-13, 95-03.
However, an attorney may advise her client to record a conversation without the consent of all parties
as long as the recording is legal and the attorney does not participate in the recording. See State Bar of
Arizona Ethics Opinion 00-04.
In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the Arizona wiretapping law can expose
you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party. See A.R.S. § 12-731.
Are polygraphs admissible in court?
http://www.mattepolygraph.com/legal_admissibility.html
Arizona Defamation Law
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/arizona-defamation-law
Is It Legal To Record A Conversation With A Minor?
From: https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-it-legal-to-record-a-conversation-with-a-minor--
840189.html
Telephone interview with Paul Berg on 29 August 2019
Telephone interview with Paul Berg on 03 September 2019
Text Messages from Anonymous Faithful Word Baptist Church member with another Faithful Word
Baptist Church member, regarding why the Berg’s were kicked out of Faithful Word Baptist Church by
Steven Anderson; thus confirming Anderson spoke to the congregation about this.
Facebook Private Message dated February 28, 2018, and sent to members of Faithful Word Baptist
Church by Zsuzsanna Anderson, the wife of FWBC pastor, Steven Anderson, in which she states the
Berg family was “thrown out” of the church for “admitted incest,” and that Paul Berg was “guilty” of
being a “predator and child molester.” All accusations that were proven to be false. Based on
Deuteronomy 19:15-21, which Anderson used as justification for throwing the Berg’s out of the church,
since his wife has also made the false accusations, she too should be thrown out of the church. In fact,
since Anderson himself has falsely accused Paul Berg, based on this passage, he should also be thrown
out of the church.
Telephone interview with Anonymous on 26 June 2019.
This person has stated, “I want to be anonymous on this. I don’t want to be singled out by these guys. I
don’t want to use the word crazy, but the word narcissist has been thrown around. Somebody got
thrown out of Stedfast Fort Worth for calling Shelley a narcissist or something. I believe it. I believe
these guys are dangerous. I believe they would try and ruin your life publicly if they possibly can. They
don’t care about your family, your kids, they don’t care about innocent people or good men”. This
person’s concern was clearly genuine, and based on first hand experience with the New IFB. Because
of this, their request for anonymity will be respected.
26. Detailed Breakdown of Jeff Durbin's Non-Denial
Written by Steven Anderson, Monday, December 24, 2018
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2018/12/detailed-breakdown-of-jeff-durbins-non.html
This Blog Article Downloaded as a PDF and is on file
While Mrs. Anderson presents her “analysis” in a manner that makes it appear as if it were done by
a professional analyst, it isn’t and she isn’t. In a video produced by Mrs. Anderson and posted by her to
YouTube, titled, “Mothering Moment - What to do if you're married to a jerk” [streamed live on
YouTube July 19, 2019, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5BEgyE3uug, accessed 29 September
2019, video on file with the author], Mrs. Anderson states that she has just completed “three years of
professional training” in how to analyze people’s words, so she is better able to read between the lines
than most people.” Sounds impressive, but it is more an embellishment than an actual accomplishment.
In the comment section of the same video, when asked where she had taken this “three years of
professional training,” Mrs. Anderson revealed that she had taken, “some online courses and seminars,
some seminars in person.” While she does not reveal which online course she took, when asked for
book recommendations on the subject, she recommended those by Mark McClish of Advanced
Interviewing Concepts. McClish offers a four month online course in statement analysis, and she likely
took this course. An internet search for online statement analysis courses revealed several options,
however, most are anywhere from a few hours to a month in length. One company offers a one-year
program, and another offers a work-at-your-own-pace program, but there are no three-year programs
such as Mrs. Anderson describes. It is likely she has embellished her online accomplishment, and is
hardly a professionally trained statement analyst, unless you consider taking an online do-it-yourself
study course written by a professional as being professionally trained.
Jeff Durbin and His Drill Instructor [6:52]
Faithful Word
This is an excerpt from the full sermon "Demon Possessed Preachers:"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WF1y23UAAA&t=148s
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Jeff Durbin's Church Promotes Tattoos and Booze [13:23]
sanderson1611
Here is the link to the full sermon from Sunday night where Pastor Anderson exposes Jeff Durbin as a
demoniac and a Sodomite. The sermon is called "Demon Possessed Preachers:"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2IjSoWuGg4
"Demon Possessed Preachers" (Jeff Durbin Exposed) [58:21]
sanderson1611
Streamed live on Dec 23, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXD-OisY2Uw
Pastor Jeff Durbin = Pervert, Dog, Drunkard [16:02]
sanderson1611
[Note: it is in this video that Anderson calls both Durbin and his wife “Drunks” and “Alcoholics” and
calls Jeff Durbin, a “Drunkard”, as well as a pervert and a dog, etc. Pure slander, unsubstantiated
slander, thus making Anderson a biblically defined slanderer and railer. The fact that he still has this
video up on his YouTube channel, for all the world to see, and has since August 20, 2017 – almost two
full years (today is August 15, 2019), shows that he could not care less. An unrepentant sinner,
flaunting his sin in God’s face. And he’s a Christian? No, he is a blasphemer. And who does not inherit
the kingdom of heaven? 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (KJV): “9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not
inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor
effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor
revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” Unless one repents and is saved, verse 11,
“And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name
of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.” AND: Leviticus 19:16 (KJV), “16 Thou shalt not go
up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy
neighbour; I am the Lord.”]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzOirKIwAF4
Jeff Durbin Apologia Beer Church [5:25]
sanderson1611
Please accept my "apologia." Here is the link to the sermon where the error was made:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyUNZU2J4Dw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zoly8puVpA0
"What It Means to be a Fundamental Baptist" (No Glitches) [1:15:49]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyUNZU2J4Dw
I Never Knew You. Depart from Me! (Jeff Durbin) [2:36]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Ejbdor6jQ
The Possession of Jeff Durbin [7:17]
sanderson1611
Published on December 26, 2018
This is an excerpt from the full sermon "Demon Possessed Preachers:"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHrHfAjSfTA
Jeff Durbin's Thinly Veiled Works Salvation [4:50]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsNHhix0-mE
Pastor Jeff Durbin's Dirty Comedy Show [3:15]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Oo35OpjUiQ
Pastor Anderson vs. Jeff Durbin [7:39]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lx7Ql2zi0k
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Pastor Jeff Durbin approved "Dirty Trinity" tattoo for church member (Apologia Church) [0:50]
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGTyJ6fDcRs
Booze is a Blessing says James White's New Pastor Jeff Durbin (Apologia Church Tempe AZ)
[1:11]
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO2aXhe6VUY
Jeff Durbin & James White Attack Pastor Anderson (Call him a Internet Troll) [1:20]
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZvI5fWK9P4
Apologia Church / Tattoo Parlor exposed by Pastor Steven Anderson (Jeff Durbin / James White)
[14:27]
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcPxGvMjdWg
Sue me Jeff Durbin, I dare you! (Pastor Steven Anderson) [1:26]
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8R1xll6Qig
In this video, Anderson claims he has nothing and his church has nothing. Surprising considering he is
bringing in $120,000 per month on average.
Jeff Durbin: Kingdom of God Documentary Exposed (Apologia Studios) [3:51]
New Ifb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AEvE_0l3tE
Jeff Durbin's Christian "Comedy" is Terrible (Apologia Studios Fail) [3:52]
Ben the Baptist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfBqvlRKLrI
27. James White: Not Enough Greeks to be Worth Evangelizing [7:55]
sanderson1611
July 21, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYRHEjk_klw&t=220s
James White vs Steven Anderson (debate vs Evangelism) [2:33]
sanderson1611
July 21, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J8h9hsYxno
What’s the Big Deal about Dr. James White? - Part 1 [9:52]
sanderson1611
November 13, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO48cqShD_s
Ten “Response to ‘The King James Only Controversy” (Book by James White) – ten videos, one
per chapter
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTSXeNpNACE&t=288s
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFJ1kTzsUtk&t=11s
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZmRb1zPfVQ
4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfgrFs9NaPI
5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyf8ePNs0Ro
6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuqqhTyp_bM
7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8KUvuQyhYA
8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU5iSHF65nc
9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1OJxbJaG-4
10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzZVxncz4I
plus videos by Ben the Baptist, Paul Wittenberger, Jason Robinson, Joe Major, “The New IFB”
YouTube channel (Paul Niven), and more, including:
Dr James White Is A Moronic Pervert - Steven Anderson [8:39]
The Polemicist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oBr4NACqVY
James White Thinks He’s God [2:55]
Ben the Baptist
Stay away from false prophet heretic “Dr.” James White.
Note: The Comments Are A Real Treasure!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIE00U6u2nw&feature=youtu.be
James White Scared To Death of Pastor Major [2:56]
Note: Do you notice the click bait style title? There is nothing in this video indicating White is “scared
to death of” Joe Major. Nothing. White is merely commenting on who stupid and childish the video
trailer for “Calvinism – The Doctrine of Devils” is. Major is simply flattering himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEdpyOHXH4c
James White covets Steven Anderson's popularity [18:39]
The Word Independent Baptist Church
Streamed live on Dec 12, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S1DwzADCJ0
Not to mention all the various comments left by Andersonites!!!
28. Stedfast Baptist Church Coverup Video #1 Donnie Romero 12-3-18 [6:34]
Cult Survivors
Published on Jan 13, 2019 (1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lON9TEvNLU
Stedfast Baptist Church Cover up Video 2: The Lies of The Cardona Family
Steven Harper KJV
Stedfast Baptist Church cover up Video 3: The Alleged Perpetrators Mom [20:25]
Cult Survivors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFFZebQmGeA
Steven Harper KJV Claims Stedfast Baptist Church Cover-up by Donnie Romero and Jonathan
Shelley [6:34]
shedrock vieira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCQcVMHFjVw
Steven Harper Says Will Continue to Expose the Cover-up @ Stedfast Baptist Church Despite
Harassment [1:30]
Banned From THE NEW IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcHq7LSU0A0
Harper Family Alleges Abuse Cover-up at Stedfast Baptist Church (Jonathan Shelley and Donnie
Romero) [8:20]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRDcNNt1qmo
Phone call privacy complaint(cover up) [3:08]
Cult Survivors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFozqCia2KQ
3 privacy complaints received Stedfast Baptist Church cover up #conspiracy [0:54]
Cult Survivors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0oHVAmX9fk
Steven Harper Calls Out Stedfast Baptist Church and Pastor Jonathan Shelley for Abuse Cover-
up [0:57]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSyU4-IdeOc&feature=youtu.be
Leaving Stedfast Baptist Church Proof 1 #Stedfast #Baptist #Coverup [10:27]
Titus Kjv [Steven Harper]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qz8qJeYmT4
STEDFAST BAPTIST CHURCH
Jonathan Shelly of Stedfast Baptist Church is a proven Liar call recording#Coverup #Cult
#Abuse [3:19]
Retitled: “Evidence i left stedfast Baptist video 2 Jonathan shelly lied #Coverup #Cult #Abuse”
Titus Kjv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wZZfkm_ypI
John stebner Freudian slip. [0:52]
Titus Kjv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOrTZGzk21E
Stedfast Baptist Jonathan Shelly Exposed #NewIFB #Abuse #Deception [19:44]
Titus KJV
January 30, 2019 (01)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCol9Lvs2qs
Shadow pc rendering jonathan shelly exposed video [3:01]
Titus KJV
January 30, 2019 (02)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bu-vSb049Y
Emmanuel of Stedfast Baptist Church 1-9-2019 [18:37]
Titus KJV
January 30, 2019 (03)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy7U9_0-dmg
NOTE: This video was removed from YouTube. It was downloaded before it was removed, however.
Reuploading videos and discussing cult practices [10:17]
Cult Survivors [Steven Harper]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV3TvtJw1jY
Emmnanuel Zermano correction |Stedfast Baptist Church Cult Member [12:00]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0praakFCLE8
Stedfast baptist church John Stebner Repobate False Accuser #Reprobate #Psychopath
#StedfastBaptist [6:04]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcNFrkEs_4s
Caught you slippin [8:07]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzEaCpN1qB0
Telephone interview with Steven Harper, dated 10 February 2019
Telephone interview with Steven Harper, dated 18 July 2019
Telephone interview with Jonathan Shelley, dated 27 February 2019
Takin’ it to the Tube

As can be seen, Steven Anderson and the New IFB have absolutely no problem attacking anyone they
don’t like. In fact, there doesn’t seem to be any rhyme nor reason, no guidelines they might follow
when they determine they are going to attack someone. They might go after an individual and/or their
family (such as the examples given), or they might go after a group of people such as the homosexual
community (as we’ve already shown), or a different religion such as Hindus, Buddhists, or Mormons
(the New IFB has produced “documentaries” condemning all of these). Or, they might go after
Christians simply because they don’t like or agree with their doctrinal beliefs, such as Calvinists, who
the New IFB has repeatedly mocked, belittled, and condemned via misrepresentations,
caricaturizations, and other strawman arguments. Almost anyone outside the New IFB seems to be a
target for Steven Anderson and his New IFB.
Even this author has been targeted by them. They complained about a video, the single solitary video
on my YouTube channel. They video exposed Jonathan Shelley’s self-aggrandizing, self-righteous,
attitude by using Shelley’s own words in a video he produced. As soon as they became aware of it, they
complained to YouTube en masse and the entire channel was removed.
Apparently they do not like being exposed for the false teachers they are.
As you have no doubt noticed, the primary weapon utilized by Steven Anderson and the New IFB to
display their vitriolic hatred are YouTube videos. This is not to say they are not vocally abusive to
people in person, because they are. This is not to say they do not stalk people on the internet, as well as
physically, because they do. This is not to say they don’t use child protective services as a weapon,
calling CPS on those who disagree with them publicly, because they will. But the primary weapon they
use to attack others are YouTube videos, and the primary purpose of these videos is character
assassination, including defamation and slander. In this next chapter, we will take a look at some
examples of the New IFB “Takin’ it to the Tube” brand of assault videos.
Those attacked by Steven Anderson and his New IFB movement affiliated churches and followers seem
to fall into three primary categories:
1. Unbelievers and Non-IFB Christians who either disagree with them, or whom they arbitrarily deem
as reprobate (a label they toss around like a Frisbee at a beach party), which we have already addressed.
2. Old IFB who disagree with them
3. Former New-IFB who disagree with them
Basically, the primary motivation for them to begin their video assault on someone is disagreement. If
someone disagrees with them, they start making videos. And if they really don’t like someone, then
they bring out the big guns: a YouTube video “documentary”! These are usually nothing more than
compilation videos coupled with rantings, belittlement, mocking, and generally bashing the subject of
the “documentary.” They generally last anywhere from thirty minutes to a couple hours in length, and
they are usually produced by New IFB Steven Anderson sycophant Jeff Utzler. The same Jeff Utzler
written about in a previous article in this series.
Hatred, vitriol, malicious slander, public shaming, shunning, mockery, belittlement, ranting and railing
are all tools employed by Anderson and his New IFB in these assault videos, and anyone who dares to
disagree with them is attacked as a heretic and a reprobate beyond salvation. And they dare to call
themselves “Christians.” Contrary to the apparent belief staunchly held by Steven Anderson and his
New IFB, they are not the standard by which Christianity is measured. No, the actual standard, and
final arbiter on who is and is not a Christian, and what is and is not Christian behavior is God; and He
has set forth this standard in Scripture.
So how does Scripture describe the attitude and behavior a Christian is to have toward others? One
such description can be found in Romans 12:14-21, which states,
“14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not. 15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and
weep with them that weep. 16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but
condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits. 17 Recompense to no man evil for
evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live
peaceably with all men. 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for
it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed
him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21 Be not
overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.”
Does Steven Anderson, or anyone else in the New IFB exhibit these God-commanded attitudes and
behaviors? Romans 12:14-21 can be broken down into thirteen questions we can call the “Christian
Attitude and Behavior Quotient” test. Of course, this particular test is based only on this particular
passage. If we were to employ all of Scripture the test would be significantly longer, and likely biased
against Anderson and his New IFB. Therefore, we will stick with this “abbreviated” version. A quotient
is a degree or amount of a specified quality or characteristic. So the higher the score on this “CABQ”
test, the more Christian, or Christlike, the subject is.
1. Do they bless those who persecute them?
2. Do they refrain from cursing those who persecute them?
3. Do they rejoice with those who rejoice and weep with those who weep?
4. Are they impartial and of the same mind toward one another?
5. Do they avoid self-seeking, prideful attitudes?
6. Do they associate with the humble?
7. Are they wise in their own conceits, thinking themselves better or more spiritual or more righteous
than others who profess Christ?
8. Are they vindictive and vengeful, repaying evil with evil?
9. Are they honest and respectful, providing these things to ALL men?
10. Do they live peaceably with ALL men?
11. Are they content to trust the Lord to avenge any and all wrongdoing done to them?
12. Do they care for the physical and spiritual needs of their enemies?
13. Do they overcome evil with good?
To score this Christian Attitude and Behavior Quotient, or CABQ test, each correct answer is awarded
one point, and each incorrect answer is awarded one negative point. Therefore, the best possible score
is 13 (indicating the most Christlike based on this passage), and the worst possible score is -13
(indicating the least Christlike based on this passage). For example, if you are able to answer twelve
questions correctly, you would have a score of 12; but by answering one question incorrectly, you
would deduct one point, leaving you with a score of 11. If you answer ten questions correctly you
would have a score of 10; but, answering the remaining three questions incorrectly means you deduct
three points, leaving you with a score of 7. Christians should be able to answer yes to all of these
questions except for numbers 7 and 8, which should be answered no. Granted, no one is perfect, and
each Christian will be at a different level of maturity. Therefore, having even a low CABQ of 1 or 2
might indicate a relatively low level of Christian maturity, while a CABQ of 12 or 13 might indicate a
very high level of Christian maturity. Keeping the attitude of Steven Anderson and the New IFB, and
the CABQ test in mind, let’s take a look at some examples of “Takin’ it to the Tube!” After which, we
will revisit the CABQ.
First we will look at examples pertaining to those within the “Old” IFB.
Sam Gipp1
As has been noted previously, Sam Gipp has been the subject of harassment at the hands of Steven
Anderson and his New IFB movement for several years. From New IFB personality Jeff Utzler making
prank calls to Gipp’s cell phone (as well as doxxing* Dr. Gipp by displaying his personal cell phone
number); to a gang of New IFB thugs from Verity Baptist Church in Boise, Idaho (a Roger Jimenez
church) descending on Dr. Gipp’s home to personally intimidate and harass him; to making a concerted
effort to telephone all the churches that Dr. Gipp speaks at and trying to discredit Dr. Gipp – and
sometimes threaten those pastors who host Dr. Gipp; to Steven Anderson and other New IFB folks
producing numerous mocking and slanderous videos which they post publicly to YouTube.
[*doxxing: The act of publishing personal and private information on the internet, usually with
malicious intent. ]
Steven Anderson has made the claim that Sam Gipp is deranged and obsessed with him. He apparently
bases this on the videos that Dr. Gipp has made about Steven Anderson. One which exposes Anderson’s
teachings and movement as false and cult-like, and the other that was made in response to one of
Anderson’s anti-Gipp videos. However, when one compares the two videos Dr. Gipp has made about
Steven Anderson to the twenty-nine videos Steven Anderson has made which mock, misrepresent, and
slander Dr. Gipp; it is painfully clear who is psychopathically obsessed with whom. And this doesn’t
begin to address the anti-Gipp videos produced and posted to YouTube by Jeff Utzler and other New
IFB people who are following in Anderson’s footsteps.
Bill Grady2
When Steven Anderson attacked Bill Grady (an evangelist based at Fellowship Baptist Church (located
in Maryville, Tennesee, under the leadership of Pastor Tom Hatley) in his YouTube videos and from the
pulpit, the rest of the Andersonites jumped on the band wagon, and began throwing the same
accusations against Grady that Anderson had been throwing at him, and the dogpile on Bill Grady
began. In all, there are a total of fourteen anti-Bill Grady videos designed to slander, defame, and
discredit Bill Grady. All because he doesn’t believe the same unbiblical doctrines that Steven Anderson
and the New IFB hold near and dear to their hearts. This is a perfect example of Anderson and the
Andersonites swarming together to attack a common foe at the leading of Steven Anderson.
Keith Gomez3
Keith Gomez is the pastor of Northwest Bible Baptist Church in Elgin, Illinois, an Independent
Fundamental Baptist Church. Note, IFB but not New IFB (Anderson’s movement). And because he is
“old” IFB and friends with Dr. Sam Gipp and other “old” IFB pastors and preachers, pastor Gomez is
automatically considered an enemy by Steven Anderson; and as has been noted, as Steven Anderson
goes so goes the New IFB. Therefore, it is not unusual that other New IFB people jumped on the “Bash
Pastor Gomez” bandwagon. To date, there are sixteen anti-Keith Gomez videos published to YouTube
by Steven Anderson, Tommy McMurtry (New IFB pastor), and Paul Niven (The New IFB website).
Bryan Denlinger4
One of the favorite kicking dogs of Steven Anderson and the New IFB is Bryan Denlinger, who is an
independent Fundamental Baptist who has fashioned himself as an internet Bible teacher, and who uses
the YouTube screen name “husky394xp”. Not only have there been numerous videos posted to
YouTube bashing him, but many of the comments made by New IFB adherents have followed suit. As
an example, in one video, titled, “Husky the Heretic Denies Salvation by Faith Alone” published by
Ben “the Baptist” Naim in November 2018, Naim refers to Bryan as “Bryan Dinkhammer, Dinlinger,
Dinklinker, Dingbat, Dinghammer,” and more. Naim says Bryan looks like a “demonic raccoon,” calls
him a “moron,” and he mocks Bryan Denlinger by mimicking him and using what is apparently
supposed to be the voice of a mentally disabled person (which Ben apparently thinks Bryan is).
Representative of the comments made by New IFB adherents are:
CassieRae McMurtry (wife of New IFB pastor Tommy McMurtry): I call him "Bryan Ding-donger"
Sean Wallace: I call him dungslinger
David Robinson: I call him Dumblinger.
James MCMLXXXVI: Dunglicker
Alberto Hernandez: I call him Brian Dungeater.
Patiently Waiting: Dingleberry
Florida Mark: Dumblooker
Matt Powell [New IFB Preacher]: I hate Bryan Denlinger.
Jacksmack77: .....blasphemous, unsaved devil. I can't tell who he looks like more: Burt or Ernie! What
a hellbound bastard!
Rozay: This husky guy should be taken out and slaughtered
redlisab: "Professor" Dingledork
Shawn Barnish: Dill-Lingerer
Jeremy Gore: Brian dumpdumpster
loonypics: Ding Clinke
One viewer, however, actually took the high ground and called them out on their unchristian behavior.
The person going by the YouTube screen name, “04inGoditrust04,” wrote, “Why are you name calling
and picking on his appearance?”
To date there are ten anti-Bryan Denlinger videos posted to YouTube by Ben Naim, Steven Anderson,
Bruce Mejia, Paul Niven, Matt Powell, and “Guzman1611.”
Of course, the New IFB does not limit their YouTube assaults to those in the Old IFB, as they are more
than happy to launch attacks against almost each and every New IFB person who has found themselves
kicked out of their movement for whatever reason (even when they weren’t really in their movement to
begin with, but that’s another story). People like Garrett Kirchway, who they blasted with at least five
videos5; and Tyler Doka who was slammed with six hate videos6; and Victor Tey, with eight videos
against him7; and Domonique Davis, Gleb Glebov, Rick Martinez, Elliott Ray, and Russell Bopst with
at least eight videos against them8.
Perhaps the worst YouTube attacks committed by Steven Anderson and the New IFB, at least to date,
have been against Tyler Baker, the pastor of Valiant Baptist Church of Jacksonville, Florida; and Adam
Fannin, the pastor of Law of Liberty Baptist Church, also in Jacksonville, Florida.
Tyler Baker9
Tyler Baker was initially ordained by Steven Anderson himself, as a deacon in Anderson’s Faithful
Word Baptist Church. Anderson was in the process of training Baker to be a pastor in his own right.
Anderson’s plan was to open a church plant in Jacksonville, Florida, and call it Valiant Baptist Church,
with Baker as the pastor. In addition to training Baker to prepare sermons and preach, he also placed
Baker in charge of his church’s finances, with Baker being in charge of tallying up the tithes and
offerings from Anderson’s three Arizona churches as well as all of the online donations and ensuring all
of the money was deposited into Anderson’s church account.
There are many who like to point out that the account is in the church’s name, and not Steven
Anderson’s, and that Anderson is nothing more than a paid employee of the church. However, as we
have already discovered, Faithful Word Baptist Church is a non-profit corporation with Steven
Anderson as CEO, President, Chairman of the Board of Directors, and the only member of the Board of
the Directors. He has no elder board, no governing board, no church board, and he answers to no one.
He, and he alone makes all decisions regarding Faithful Word Baptist Church and that includes all
decisions regarding any and all money coming into his church. In effect, Steven Anderson IS Faithful
Word Baptist Church, therefore, every penny coming into the church is coming into Steven Anderson.
All $120,000 per month (based on an average of total yearly donations divided by twelve), according to
Tyler Baker, Anderson’s deacon in charge of finances.
When Anderson changed his doctrine of God and went from teaching modalism to tri-theism, he almost
immediately fired Baker for believing in a modalistic view of God. At least this is Anderson’s
explanation (although he denies ever teaching modalism, in spite of the mountain of video evidence to
the contrary). His explanation doesn’t make much sense, however, when one considers Baker simply
believed the exact same modalistic doctrine that Anderson had taught him, and every other person in
his church.
When Anderson fired Baker on June 19, 2017, a video was taken of the incident, during which the
actual reason Anderson fired Baker was revealed. In the video Anderson can be seen screaming at
Baker, making threatening and intimidating gestures, and calling Baker just about everything but a
child of God. In the video Anderson can be seen telling Baker that he hated working with him, that his
behavior was “unf******g believable,” that he “s****d” as an employee, saying “I have been this
close to firing you every month, the only reason I kept you around was I didn’t want to rock the boat
’cause you’re leaving anyway.” He went on saying, “If I had to work with you the rest of my life I
would have fired you a long time ago. You are lazy! You s**k! You’ve never done anything that I’ve
told you to do beyond the minimum. ...At the best of times you’re a C minus.” He repeatedly told
Baker he was a liar, especially when he confronted Baker about something Baker had allegedly said
and Baker denied it. And here it was revealed that Anderson lost control and lost his temper simply
because of a false allegation made against Tyler Baker. Sound familiar? The same thing happened with
the Berg family.
Someone came to Anderson and told him that Tyler Baker was going around behind Anderson’s back
and “talking crap” about Anderson’s church and that his (Baker’s) church was going to be so much
better. The little worm-tongue whispering in Anderson’s ear also told him that Baker was promoting
oneness Pentecostalism to people behind Anderson’s back. Anderson becomes so incensed when he
thinks or hears someone is talking behind his back and without his permission (whether true or not
true), that he doesn’t take the time to investigate (although he claims he does, we now know better) the
claims, and he immediately takes them at face value. This is why, according to the video, he fired Tyler
Baker.
Anderson continued to circle Baker, railing at him, saying, “You’re an idiot...You’re a liar, your
testimony s**ks!” Anderson told him. Anderson’s tirade continued with him telling Baker, “You don’t
do anything I tell you! You do nothing! What the h**l do you do for fifty hours last week? You think
you can do whatever the h**l you want! You s**k as an employee! You lazy jerk!...You s**k! You
s**k! You’ve s****d from the beginning! You’ve always s****d! I told my wife that you’re a C minus
when you started, and I told Pastor Jimenez. I told my wife and my one best friend that you’re a bad
employee, and I told them that a year ago.”
Now this is an important piece of information. According to the video, Anderson fired Tyler Baker on
June 19, 2017. If he told his wife and Roger Jimenez a year prior that Baker was a bad employee, then
that would mean at least as early as June 2016 Steven Anderson knew, or at least believed, that Tyler
Baker was not pastor material, and throughout that ensuing year, up until the day he fired Baker, a mere
six weeks before he planned to send Baker to Jacksonville, Florida to start a church as the pastor of that
church plant, Anderson believed that Baker was a bad employee, that he “s****d,” that he was “lazy,”
and that at best he was a “C minus.” Think about that for a minute. How poorly must Steven Anderson
think of the people of Jacksonville, Florida that we was willing to send to them someone he did not
believe was pastor material, to be their new pastor? Apparently Anderson doesn’t hold the people of
Jacksonville in very high regard.
After he left Faithful Word Baptist Church and the clearly tyrannically unhinged Steven Anderson,
Tyler Baker returned to his home church, New Macedonia Baptist Church in Newport, Kentucky
where, eight months later in February 2018 Baker was ordained; and, in March 2018 he was sent to
Jacksonville, Florida to start a new church which Baker named Valiant Baptist Church.
After FWBC, baker returned to Northern Kentucky, and then to New Macedonia Baptist Church in
Newport, Kentucky, his home church, where he was ordained in February 2018. In March 2018, he was
sent to Jacksonville to start a church, which he named Valiant Baptist church. Concerned that Baker
would do this very thing, Anderson tried to thwart his plans by ordering Donnie Romero, then the
pastor of Stedfast Baptist Church in Fort Worth, Texas (whom Anderson had ordained and sent to Fort
Worth to start Stedfast) to start a new church plant in Jacksonville, Florida. Romero complied and in
August 2017 he started Stedfast Baptist Church Jacksonville, a church which later split when it was
discovered Romero had been involved with gambling, prostitutes and illegal drugs. Apparently Steven
Anderson was developing a habit of sending people he either believed or actually were not pastor
material to Jacksonville.
Almost immediately upon his firing the “let’s-bash-Tyler-Baker” videos began to appear on YouTube.
Initially coming from Anderson and others at his Tempe, Arizona church; it was not long before the rest
of the New IFB jumped on the railing bandwagon, all of them seemingly trying to out do the others in
slandering Tyler Baker. To date there are at least a whopping fifty-six of these video assaults dedicated
to slandering, smearing, and slamming Tyler Baker. Fifty-Six! And all of it started because some
unnamed person started whispering false accusations into Steven Anderson’s ear, and rather than doing
his due diligence as a pastor and investigating the accusations, Anderson chose to just fly off the handle
and attack his own deacon.
Adam Fannin10
The “Adam Fannin” situation is a bizarre one to say the least. In August 2017, Donnie Romero, the
pastor of Stedfast Baptist Church in Fort Worth, Texas ordained Adam Fannin as an evangelist, and sent
him out to Jacksonville, Florida to start a church plant called Stedfast Baptist Church Jacksonville
(commonly known as Stedfast Jax).
On Wednesday, January 2, 2019, Donnie Romero resigned as the pastor of Stedfast church, after
admitting to visiting casinos and gambling, engaging the services of prostitutes, and using illegal drugs.
The following day, on Thursday, January 3, 2019, Steven Anderson notified the world via a YouTube
video (of course) of Donnie Romero’s sin and subsequent fall from NIFB grace. When Romero’s wife
discovered what her husband had been up to, she notified Steven Anderson and asked him to come to
Fort Worth to handle the situation. This was an odd turn of events in that she should have gone to the
more mature men of her own church, and asked them to take over the day to day operations of the
church because of her husbands indiscretions. Calling the pastor of what is supposed to be an
unaffiliated church more than 1,000 miles away would be a serious breach of church protocol in any
normal church. Of course, we aren’t talking about a normal church, we are talking about the New IFB,
which is, in spite of what they claim, the very essence of a denomination and with Steven Anderson as
its de facto leader.
Anderson immediately traveled to Fort Worth and established himself there as the interim pastor of
Stedfast. Whether officially or autocratically the result was the same. He was making the decisions, and
was the one who ordered Romero to step down. He was there for that Wednesday night service, and in
what was ostensibly a magnanimous gesture offered himself to the folks of Stedfast as a guiding light
in their time of trouble. One can almost see the wolf-like smile on his face.
On Thursday night, Anderson called together the men of Stedfast church for a closed door meeting. He
insisted that no one record the meeting, and also insisted that no one was to talk about what was
discussed during that meeting. The meeting must have been called on short notice, because only five
men attended in addition to Anderson. They were Steven Harper, Jesse Michael, John Stebner, Emanuel
Zermano, and Kevin Edelmann. According to one of these men, who agreed to speak only on the
condition of anonymity, stated Anderson explained to them the extent of Romero’s wrong doing, which
apparently included embezzeling as much as $50,000 from the church. Anderson then instructed the
men not to talk to anyone about Romero’s financial crimes because, “we have to keep Donnie out of
jail.” Anderson used a grossly twisted eisegesis of 1 Corinthians chapter 6 (Christians are not to take
other Christians to court to settle their grievances) as biblical support for this.
At some point during all of this, someone either made an off hand comment, or asked the question, or
made a patently false accusation about Adam Fannin possibly or actually being involved in Romero’s
sins. As we have repeatedly seen, it doesn’t take much for a single comment to worm its way into
Anderson’s mind, and niggle around until he manages to form a full fledged conspiracy surrounding it.
And, as we have also repeatedly seen, Anderson never actually investigates situations such as this,
preferring instead to simply assume he is right in whatever imagined scenario he can conjure up.
However it happened, on Friday, January 4, 2019, at 12:10pm Jacksonville, Florida time (11:10am Fort
Worth, Texas time), Steven Anderson sent a text message to Adam Fannin giving him two choices. One
he can leave Stedfast, or two he can stay. Anderson went on to write, however, “If you stay with
Stedfast, you are fired. Pastor Shelley is on the same page. Those are your two choices.”
Wait, what? Who said anything about Shelley? At this point Jonathan Shelley was the pastor of Pure
Words Baptist Church in Houston, Texas (where Anderson had sent him), and had nothing to do with
Stedfast. In fact, on this same day Jonathan Shelley posted a video to YouTube titled, “Stedfast Baptist
Church Jacksonville – Adam Fannin” during which he states he is not the pastor of Stedfast. He makes
comments offering himself, although he doesn’t really want to move there; and, “if I take on Stedfast,”
so it is clear that at this point Jonathan Shelley had no authority whatsoever at Stedfast.
In fact, it wasn’t until the night of January 4, 2019 that it was decided by Steven Anderson – or rather
the men of Stedfast as led by and told by Steven Anderson, to bring in Jonathan Shelley as the new
pastor of Stedfast Baptist Church. Anderson called a second closed door meeting for that night at about
7pm, again for the men of Stedfast. The meeting lasted about three hours and at the end of it Shelley
was the new pastor of Stedfast. Interestingly, Steven Anderson has said he had no way to include the
men of Stedfast Jax in the closed door meeting. However, this has been shown to be a lie (not unusual
for Steven Anderson) as the men of Stedfast Jax were holding their own meeting at the exact same
time, and they actually telephoned Stedfast Fort Worth during the joint meeting and spoke with
Jonathan Shelley via conference call and on an open speaker. The Stedfast Jax meeting was recorded,
including this conference call, and including the questions that were asked of Jonathan Shelley, and
including Shelley hanging up on the men of Stedfast Jax as if they mattered not one whit to him.
Naturally, this did not sit well with the majority of the men of Stedfast Jax, and they opted to not accept
Jonathan Shelley as their new long distance pastor and losing Adam Fannin, the man who had been
their “pastor” in all but title to an arbitrary dismissal at the hands of someone who essentially took over
without any actual authority. For Steven Anderson this was all the proof he needed to believe Fannin
was guilty of all manner of nefarious deeds. This can be seen in a series of videos produced by Steven
Anderson and posted to YouTube between early Saturday morning, January 5, 2019 and the evening of
Wednesday, January 9, 2019; wherein he makes all manner of comments about Adam Fannin that begin
somewhat negative, but benign, and progressing to out and out accusations by the end of those four
days.
On Saturday, January 5, 2019, earlier in the day, Anderson posts a video to YouTube titled, “Update on
Stedfast Baptist Church.” In this video Anderson begins by talking about his impending installation of
Jonathan Shelley as the pastor of the three Stedfast churches. He soon moves into talking about Adam
Fannin, however, pointing out that Fannin is obstinately trying to sabotage the process, rebelling and
being divisive. Anderson paints himself has the helpless victim being slandered and opposed when all
he is trying to do is mediate between Fanning and Shelley. Something Fanning is working hard against
according to Anderson. Anderson ends the video by saying, “I’m hoping [Adam Fannin] will do the
right thing and step down and resign...I still hope he can do the right thing and everybody can stay
friends.”
This is, of course, about as disingenuous as it can possibly be. What Anderson has chosen to withhold
from his following of loyal but gullible groupies is that he doesn’t hope Adam Fannin will “do the right
thing and step down and resign” because he unceremoniously fired Adam Fannin almost twenty-four
hours prior to making this video! This entire “Update on Stedfast Baptist Church” is a sham. It is
nothing more than a build-up to the increasingly virulent video attacks he is about to launch on Adam
Fannin.
Later that same afternoon (January 5, 2019) Anderson uploads a video titled, “Adam Fannin Lies.”
In this video we see the beginning of Anderson’s implied assertions. If you are unfamiliar with the
term, it is a legal term defined as “a statement that is not express, but is instead implicated from the
context in which the statement is made.” Legally, implied assertions are considered hearsay, and as
such as not considered to be reliable. In spite of the lack of reliability in what Anderson says about
Fannin, his message is clear: Fannin is guilty unless and until he can prove himself innocent.
In the video, “Adam Fannin Lies,” Anderson states, “The Vast majority of the sins of Romero took
place in Jacksonville, Florida. That’s what all the evidence shows, that’s what he himself said. So this
has been a pattern of every time he goes to Jacksonville, these things are going on. So how are we
supposed to know that Adam Fannin is not involved in this?” Of course, there is no way to know if
Adam Fannin was involved other than asking both Fannin and Romero, as they would be the only ones
with any knowledge of any involvement Fannin may have had. And barring any evidence to the
contrary, there is no reason to suspect Fannin of any wrong doing, and yet, that is exactly what
Anderson does, and he says as much in this statement.
Anderson then goes to attempt to mitigate his accusation of Fannin by saying, “Now I’m not accusing
him of that, and if anyone accuses him of that without evidence they’re wrong.” Well, of course they
are wrong. But this is exactly what Anderson is doing here. He is implicitly accusing Adam Fannin of
participating in Donnie Romero’s sins. Anderson confirms this with his next statement: “But at the
same time, when there’s all of these squirrelly things going on financially, and when the sins were
taking place in Jacksonville, Florida, and every single person I talk to here in Fort Worth says that
Romero and Fannin are like two peas in a pod and that they were best buddies, super close, he was the
only person Romero was close to, that’s what everyone here is telling me; why would I just be in a
hurry to just make sure that Adam Fannin’s up to speed on everything, and keep him in the loop and
everything...NO.”
Anderson continues, “If the books are audited by a third party, which has to happen, they’re either
going to implicate or exonerate Adam Fannin. If the books show, and if the documentation shows that
Adam Fannin was not involved then I’ll be the first to say, don’t accuse him of anything. And, if the
books show that he’s guilty, obviously he’s going to be condemned.” Anderson’s meaning here is clear.
In his mind, Adam Fannin is guilty unless and until he can prove himself innocent. “If all the sin is
taking place predominantly in Jacksonville, Florida,” Anderson says, “and his name is on one of the
bank accounts, you know, we just need to wait and see what the independent auditor says.” Just to be
sure those of his followers who are watching this video understand, the evidence is stacked against
Adam Fannin in Anderson’s mind, even before any investigation is done. This mindset tells you exactly
what the conclusions of any investigation are going to be, and that is one of Adam Fannin’s guilt.
Regardless of where the investigation leads, regardless of what the evidence reveals, in Anderson’s
mind Fannin is as guilty as sin; and he cements this in his closing statement, “You weren’t being told
[about any financial decisions regarding the church Fannin was pastoring], Adam Fannin, because I
don’t trust you, other people don’t trust you, and based on your behavior you keep proving us right.
Why are you so interested in getting into the finances and being involved in the finances?”
The very next day, in his Sunday, January 6, 2019 morning service titled, “As A Dog Returneth To Its
Vomit,” Anderson removes all doubt as to what he thinks about Adam Fannin when he says, “There is a
wicked element in Jacksonville, they need to go their own way” and leave.
On Monday, January 7, 2019, the day after declaring “there is a wicked element in Jacksonville,”
Anderson removed any doubt as to whom he was referring. In a video titled, “Audit of Financial
Records in Jacksonville Complete,” Anderson begins by complaining about the way Donnie Romero,
the pastor of Stedfast Jacksonville, handled the weekly tithes and offerings. According to sources,
Romero’s instructions were for church ushers to collect the tithes and offerings and place them into a
zippered cash bag. Adam Fannin would then take and count them, notify Romero of the amount, and
then deposit them in the bank. Now, granted this is clearly an odd way to manage the weekly tithes and
offerings, but it is the way in which Pastor Donnie Romero wanted it done. Considering he was found
to be embezzling money from his church, it is easy to understand why he wanted the money handled in
this manner.
Of course, some might question why Adam Fannin did not question Romero’s method of handling the
tithes and offerings, and why he didn’t just do things the proper and correct way; but, it bears
remembering that in the New IFB questioning the methods of the pastor is considered a grievous sin.
Steven Anderson himself has publicly shamed some of his congregants and thrown them out of his
church for doing this very same thing. One simply does not question the pastor regarding the way in
which he is running his church. It simply isn’t done in the New IFB. And so Adam Fannin did not
question Romero’s methods, and simply obeyed him.
However, because Anderson clearly had an agenda when it came to Adam Fannin, he used Fannin’s
obedience to his pastor as ammunition to verbally eviscerate Fannin. After complaining about the way
in which Romero had Fannin handle the tithes and offerings, he states, “What in the world would stop
him from just shoving large amounts of cash in his pocket every week and it doesn’t even make it to
the bank!” While this may be true, there is nothing to indicate that Fannin is doing this, or has ever
done this. No evidence whatsoever. Yet that doesn’t stop Anderson from making such an implied
assertion. Anderson says, “There has been financial fraud that has taken place at Stedfast Jacksonville.
There’s no doubt anymore. …And that explains Adam Fannin’s bizarre behavior. …Adam Fannin IS
involved in the dishonest financial practices, and he needs to be investigated [to see] whether he’s been
involved in the gambling, and the hookers, and everything else, because he was right there with
Romero in this shady financial practice.” According to Anderson’s videos, all of these assertions being
made by him are based on one or two unsubstantiated text messages to Jonathan Shelley from Joe
Uyakim, who was the loudest and most enthusiastic supporter of Jonathan Shelley and the most
vociferous opponent of Adam Fannin at Stedfast Jacksonville, during the meeting on January 4, 2019.
As can be clearly seen here, Steven Anderson very methodically begins his attempt to discredit and
destroy Adam Fannin through a series of YouTube videos. He begins be presenting himself as a helpful
and well meaning man of God, just trying to help Stedfast church in its time of turmoil and trouble,
hoping that Adam Fannin will get on board with the program and accept the leadership of Jonathan
Shelley. Of course this is all just stage dressing since he had already fired Adam Fannin. Then he
begins to question Fannin’s honesty and integrity. Not directly, but indirectly through a very subtle
implied accusation. Then the implied accusations become stronger, and then no longer implied but
directly stated. Then Anderson moves on from assertions of potential criminal wrongdoing to actual
accusations of criminal wrongdoing.
Then, on January 9, 2019, after returning to his church in Tempe, Arizona, Anderson preaches a sermon
titled, “Sheba, Son of Bichri – Adam Fannin Exposed,” where he moves from accusations of criminal
wrongdoing to stating quite matter-of-factly that not only is Adam Fannin stealing money from the
church, but that he now has three witnesses to this, and states, “We proved he was doing wicked things
with the finances...Proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt! …The guys out there, the righteous remnant
out there, which is the majority out there by the way is not with Fannin. The majority of the church out
there, you know what they did? They called the police to evict him! … You better know it’s getting
dangerous for you, you thief! … Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do when they come for you!”
Anderson presented these videos in the manner that he did, in order to manipulate his gullible
sycophantic followers that Adam Fannin was proven to be guilty of theft, of fraud, of embezzlement.
And it worked. Almost immediately Fannin became a pariah in the New IFB. Other New IFB pastors
and Andersonites began producing their own videos condemning Adam Fannin for being a railer, a
divisive person, a liar, a thief, a false prophet, and a reprobate beyond salvation; and all based on
Steven Anderson’s unsubstantiated claims against Fannin. Yep, that’s right. Unsubstantiated. Anderson
did not have a single piece of definitive evidence to back up any of the claims he made regarding Adam
Fannin’s alleged wrongdoing. Nothing other than his own twisted imagination.
But that’s all it took to convince his thousands of loyal followers, such as Jonathan Shelley, Jeff Utzler,
Ben “the Baptist” Naim, and others, to believe his lies and join him in slandering Adam Fannin; and
now also those who attend church with him and have called him to be their pastor. And not with ten, or
twenty, or fifty, or even seventy-five assault videos; but rather there are well over 100 videos on
YouTube alone, that are either directly aimed at Adam Fannin, or mention him derogatorily, or make
veiled derogatory statements about him. More than 100! When you consider it takes on average two
hours to create a YouTube video (with creation, editing, publishing and all the little related steps), that
adds up to about 200 hours of creating these videos. That’s at least two and one-half work weeks (at
eight hours per day, five days per week); and that is a whole lot of time spent attacking and slandering
one man! Time that could have probably been better spent sharing the gospel with people, or feeding
the hungry, or clothing and obtaining housing and shelter for the poor – like Jesus tells His followers to
do in Matthew 25:31-46:
“35 For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger,
and ye took me in: 36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye
came unto me. 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred,
and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or
naked, and clothed thee? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the
King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of
the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.” (verses 35-40)
But instead, Steven Anderson and his New IFB followers chose to take that time and use it to slander
someone who certainly did not deserve any of persecution they heaped on him. This says a lot about
their priorities.
Sources:
1. Interview with Dr. Sam Gipp, 03 February 2019
Interview with Tyler Baker, 02 06 February 2019
Regarding Anderson's people (i.e. Tyler Baker) calling churches where Gipp was scheduled to speak,
and telling them to cancel Gipp's talk because Gipp is a heretic; one pastor in Maryland was called and
told to cancel Sam Gipp because he is a heretic, and the pastor told the caller, “No.” Not long after that,
someone called and identified themselves as Steven Anderson and told the pastor to cancel Sam Gipp.
The pastor told this person no, and the person claiming to be Steven Anderson told him, “Cancel Sam
Gipp or you'll be sorry.”
Pastor Anderson Rant about Lame Baptist Churches [9:56]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvSRnVcnPWA&feature=youtu.be
The Truth About Steve Anderson [1:42:42]
Sam Gipp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaF54M3H5S8
Sam Gipp's Rebuttal to Steven Anderson [28:34]
Sam Gipp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVjDwiOVyqI
Sam Gipp is Demonic and Evil (hear it for yourself) [10:10]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQTVLK1xe4Q
Dr. Sam Gipp, Ph.D. - English language expert [8:57]
sanderson1611
Published on October 15, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0Qh3EI2AMI
Sam Gipp Thinks I’m a Millionaire [6:21]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRn2f-gVKrY&t=188s
Sam Gipp Blasphemy Refuted & Rebuked [12:35]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN0VEo7sKZ8
Sam Gipp – not a Ph.D but an M.C. and an O.G. [1:19]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xkoapvV-II
Red Hot Preaching – Sam Gipp Exposed [11:11]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkxLUnm2W1Q
Sam Gipp Taught Same Blasphemy Back in January 2016 [2:34]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35t8KDjFkRU
Sam Gipp Gets a Phone Call & Panics [0:51]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiOdavt6FK4
Pre-Trib Math Fail (by Sam Gipp) [2:51]
sanderson1611
Published on February 4, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLnWCIgxZlA
Sam Gipp’s “Anti-Anderson Conference” at Keith Gomez’s church [3:40]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5biTUoNF0A
Sam Gipp & Treasure Valley Baptist Church [16:03]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hk6Gh1xSHE
Did Sam Gipp Teach Same Blasphemy in Morning Session? [4:12]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxYN1I4MVHU
Sam Gipp Teaches “Zombie Apocalypse” [4:42]
sanderson1611
Published on June 6, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4z2M64N94g
FULL SERMON – Sam Gipp says that Jesus is NOT his Messiah [1:35:50]
sanderson1611
Published on September 11, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9fdziSjTgk
Pastor Roger Jimenez Rebukes Sam Gipp [8:17]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-aPCTNkZP8
Sam Gipp Handled the Word of God Deceitfully [5:27]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTGEHnHD7ec
Sam Gipp denies that Jesus is our Messiah [0:58]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdXl5rM0nyI
Sam Gipp Lies More to Cover Up His Blasphemy [1:15]
Steven Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByNWErAuoPc
Sam Gipp Lies about Revelation Chart [2:04]
Steven Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVXSgnJj0a8
Sam Gipp Debunks After the Tribulation – CASE CLOSED! [3:21]
Steven Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTXe4bqhhEQ
Sam Gipp Obsessed with Steven Anderson (Part 1) [7:38]
Steven Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arKuouWIyok&t=173s
Sam Gipp Obsessed with Steven Anderson (Part 2) [3:38]
Steven Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zBR1DRZhus
Sam Gipp & Keith Gomez: ZERO Response to Anderson’s Rebuke [19:59]
Steven Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNVKCht4mSM
Sam Gipp’s Account Tweets Porn – Blames Pastor Anderson [8:05]
The New IFB
Published on December 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m0490AXq-8
Sam Gipp’s Zombie Apocalypse [6:40]
Steven Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNtN7fAT7ZE
Sam Gipp’s Lame Response to Blasphemy Charges [7:03]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avnj5wdtfDk
Sam Gipp Goes Mega-viral [0:52]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af1lnPtWNnE
Sam Gipp Teaches Life Begins at Birth (not conception) [1:58]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqeLFKhtPss
Full Day 3 of Anti-Anderson Conference [1:50:45]
Sam Gipp’s Blasphemy Refuted & Rebuked
Faithful Word Baptist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fa-EK9rh3w
There are also additional videos attacking Sam Gipp, published by other New IFB members, such as:
Proof Sam Gipp is a PSYCHOPATH!!! [1:10]
KJV soulwinners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWEwP5AC4js
Sam Gipp acts like a child when called out [0:51]
KJV innersole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kuUwWjg-1A
Todd Ferguson Sam Gipp Phone Conversation 03 February 2019 [14:11]
2. Fellowship Baptist Church in Maryville, Tennessee, Pastor Tom Hatley, website
https://three2thrive.org/, accessed on 24 August 2019
Wolf Alert: Dr. William Grady Teaches a Salvation without Jesus [20:28]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJgiNtfovK4
Dr. William P. Grady Holy Ground Book Review [8:35]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3kCsIsAWfw
Bill Grady Tries to Refute the KJV with Scofield's Notes [2:01]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhTSY540au8
Bill Grady answers a Question I Have Been Asking for the Last Year [6:30]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7Bf7LXHH54
My Thoughts on Bill Grady's Book "Holy Ground" [8:35]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sacqAmV-r8I
Bill Grady the False Prophet [4:49]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSBcV5z6bPQ
Bill Grady Loves Hooters! [0:31]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkmpBiOdY3g
Ruckmanite FairyTales- Bill Grady Edition [1:01:10]
Streamed live on May 20, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7oyc7f8v7Y
Bill Grady Sermon Highlights (Low Points) [3:49]
Steven Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3DlGItSma0
Old IFB is running scared of Pastor Anderson & The New IFB [4:49]
Shady Bill Grady strikes again!
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufvJa4RU6iQ
Panic and madness in the Old IFB (Sam Gipp, Bill Grady & missionaries) [5:03]
File001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW7SeDA-hSc
William Grady: OT Salvation by Faith is 'Junk' [0:39]
Ben the Baptist
Heretic dispensational moron William Grady thinks old testament salvation by faith is the "biggest,
dumbest bunch of junk you could ever come up with."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-CK-0Ba4fE
False Teacher Bill Grady is Damned [12:24]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BRTLCG3c_M
Ruckmanite Preaching about People on Other Planets [3:56]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzr17PURbxI&t=41s
3. Pastor of Northwest Bible Baptist Church in Elgin, Illinois [https://nwbbc.com/page/Pastor]
Keith Gomez Challenges Pastor Anderson to a FIGHT [3:35]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDnfO-KoFFc
Sam Gipp's "Anti-Anderson Conference" at Keith Gomez's church [3:39]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5biTUoNF0A&t=64s
Pastor Keith Gomez Teaches Hyper Dispensational Lies [4:38]
Faithful Word
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_b7ZSISgtA
False Shepherds: Sam Gipp and Keith Gomez [5:24]
Sure Foundation Baptist Church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAptqmVywZE
Keith Gomez Invitation (talking about Steven Anderson) [2:41]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csoFB-bOfdY
Sam Gipp is Demonic and Evil (hear it for yourself) [10:09]
sanderson1611
[Video “exposing” Sam Gipp and Keith Gomez]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQTVLK1xe4Q
Keith Gomez Makes Fun of Himself [2:07]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfJRy8VEE8k
Pastor Keith Gomez on Slavery [2:17]
New Ifb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKWqY4PdypY
FULL SERMON - Keith Gomez on Slavery (bad sermon) [44:57]
Steven Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLM6Yhx6I8s
Keith Gomez's Church = House of Merchandise [49:47]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViVMxXPrOKQ
Keith Gomez preaches Works Salvation at Old Paths Conference [4:21]
Verity Baptist Church Mirror
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWwZGOiDL0U
Sam Gipp & Keith Gomez: ZERO Response to Anderson's Rebuke [19:58]
Steven Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNVKCht4mSM&t=25s
Sam Gipp Blasphemy Refuted & Rebuked [12:34]
sanderson1611
[Sam Gipp and Keith Gomez “exposed”]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN0VEo7sKZ8
Tommy McMurtry - The Old IFB taken over by Effeminate Sissies (Sam Gipp & Pastor Keith
Gomez) [3:57]
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CblrUEgzoNw
"How to Fight False Doctrine in the Last Days" by Pastor Tommy McMurtry 1/20/19 [48:00]
Streamed live on Jan 20, 2019
[Sam Gipp and Keith Gomez are effeminate]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqkamIqbwjc
Pastor Keith Gomez on Slavery (Elgin, IL) [7:03]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-elLfO8I44
4. Husky the Heretic Denies Salvation by Faith Alone [13:43]
Ben the Baptist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXySqDEMQuk
Bryan Denlinger vs. Steven L Anderson (husky394xp vs. sanderson1611) [16:34]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE5hMIdeN50
Garrett Weiss Refutes Bryan Denlinger [1:10]
Matt Powell OFFICIAL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Um9RIR71YE
Brother Bruce Mejia Responds to Bryan Denlinger [5:04]
The New IFB
Brother Bruce Mejia of Faithful Word Baptist Church Los Angeles responds to Bryan Denlinger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-Hdw_qqo6U
Bryan Denlinger is So Vain! Haha husky394xp [2:23]
sanderson1769 mirror
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK5u9lD83V4
Bryan Denlinger (husky394xp) Exposed [2:56]
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S93aNVztSa4
Coming after Dungliner in the Millenial Reign [0:44]
Fwbc La
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIXtQZvu2-M
RESPONSE TO BRYAN DUNG-LINGER (whiner, hen-pecked, dispensationalist) [5:04]
Fwbc La
Bryan Denlinger AKA musty247xp attempting to do damage control over the film coming out this
Monday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVsPgeWsu3o
What GOOGLE thinks of Bryan DUNG-linger (Husky394xp) [0:20]
Fwbc La
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLKRF1WggxM
Bryan Denlinger’s madness on the ‘Romero-Fannin’ Controversy (Anarchy) [5:27]
Guzman 1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iObGaUV4ZY
5. Garrett Kirchway Fired from FWBC [0:58]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ9toArU-RI
Pastor Anderson kicks out Garrett Kirchway & Dominique Davis for Modalism, FWBC 5/27/18
[8:04]
The New IFB
Pastor Anderson will not tolerate people siding with the Modalists no matter who they are! Neither will
he tolerate some guy trying to take over the service. Watch as Pastor Anderson rules as the man of God
at FWBC.
The New IFB channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF5lxE7W-P-oRFPU1171B-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjOlTxb6Pxg
Garrett Kirchway Bogus Soul-winning
Steven Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8wxd4qIhvo
I'm not Garrett Kirchway, I get people saved
Fwbc La
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djz7AQl-ADU
Garrett Kirchway Exposed by Pastor Steven Anderson (7/29/18 Church Service)
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmIShOcPWpQ
6. Rebuking Tyler Doka & Joey Faust's Damnable Heresy [2:43]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qlzyx83sq4
Pastor Steven Anderson Endorses Awesome Website Made By Pastor Tyler Doka [4:32]
Tylah Baker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4uomqazziw&feature=youtu.be
Fake and Self Willed Pastors | Tyler Doka
Pure Words Baptist Church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuxL4EiUz9A
Dealing with Tyler Doka and Justin Leblanc's Lies
Matt Powell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdNVBup31kw
Tyler Doka Exposed by Brother Bruce Mejia
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we2bEFYLA7E
Tyler Doka the unqualified FOOL
Fwbc La
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POGB8B25wiM
7. Response to Pastor Steven Anderson (Part 2) - My Experience at Faithful Word Baptist
Church [1:26:01]
The Church in Liverpool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1amjz3lmOCU&feature=youtu.be
Listen at 52:20 ...
Answering Victor Tey's Questions About the Trinity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVaRk16v6Zk
Victor Tey (the church in Liverpool)
PILLAR BAPTIST CHURCH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ANDKTsxAlQ
Jimenez Launches Attack at Victor Tey, Despite Same Trinity Doctrine
Timotheus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxKtGrUT2gI
Victor Tey Exposed
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEJqf5rK1ls
Victor Tey and His False Doctrine
Modalist Watchman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVohdL7JRZ4
Pastor Anderson Preaching Against Tyler Baker, Victor Tey and Garrett Kirchway
Modalist Watchman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOlDIfxpBQo
Victor Tey and His Jesus Only Baptism (The Church in Liverpool)
PILLAR BAPTIST CHURCH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzbnx07wdEE
8. Rick Martinez Slips Up
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGADSeYkjWs
Reprobate Rick Digs Himself In Deeper
Steven Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_uDqZ_1t9Y&t=12s
PROOF | Russell Bopst is a lying RAILER against Pastor Steven Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y_R3eRYdOo
Russell Bopst can't stop LYING like his "Pastor".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNATK-4VQnY
Domonique Davis Exposed
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re6DtBwtlR4
Domonique Davis' Psalm 2 Interpretation Debunked
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVlzo654270
Explaining Domonique Davis - Steven Anderson
New IFB Army
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiwV4KA7Hpk
Gleb Glebov and Bill MacGregor are Unqualified buffoons
Sure Foundation Baptist Church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvLhtlsFl3I
9. "Beware Of Tyler Baker's Cult" Terminated Deacon Of FWBC [13:17]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxCNU_Vhda8
Garrett Kirchway on Tyler Baker's Work Performance [1:40]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=jHsYR1DY4Ls&feature=youtu.be
Tyler Baker's Timesheets - Read 'em & weep! [31:36]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RefDM8gjfo
Angry Steven Anderson vs Tyler Baker - Pastor Berates Understudy While Wife in Labor
Banned From THE NEW IFB [6:01]
52 views2 days ago
Pastor Steven Anderson fires and berates his protégé Tyler Baker while Baker's wife is in labor.
Interestingly, Pastor Steven ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaHyA5Ij2ko
Pastor Manly Perry Takes Out the Trash [2:51]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD6g8IzrBE4&feature=youtu.be
Tyler Baker Fired from FWBC [29:11]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqUgXQTp1Qo
MP4 Video Downloaded
Oneness Heresy from Tyler Baker's Own Mouth (a.k.a. Modalism) [3:57]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvHEx107KFw
Don't Get Discouraged about Tyler Baker Being Exposed [4:08]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQeKmIsUQZw
Tyler Baker Mocks the Father Sending the Son to Die for Us [8:44]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcg9fs71Gtg
Documentary - Tyler Baker the Oneness Heretic [1:20:23]
Faithful Word
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-ukNLMwzak
Tyler Baker Promises… [0:29]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHQckr3cPg4
Tyler Baker: the Coward (Valiant Baptist Church) [7:19]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8ePZrCZBro
Pray for Tyler Baker [2:29]
Fwbc La
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KioFFqfbWUg
Bro Graham Arpen's view on Tyler Baker the person! [32:34]
Bro Grahams take on the character of Tyler Baker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLniilORpfE
Tyler Baker & His Oneness Baptism [1:50]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHY8MpV0piU
Tyler Baker Oneness Doctrines Refuted (Nestorianism, Incarnational Sonship) [18:10]
Ben the Baptist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esmk_Z-BQ8w
Tyler Baker Closet Oneness Coward! [24:49]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0M2bV6OQb8
Tyler Baker Admits to Being Adonijah [3:21]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNhfgNh3KAA
Tyler Baker and Co Unlawfully Restrict Open Breastfeeding [5:06]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elRdNd6QIPg&t=3s
Tyler Baker Drunk/Stoned? [0:50]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFWemfWq38
“Their Folly Shall Be Manifest” (Tyler Doka, Tyler Baker Update) [1:12:51]
Streamed live on Sep 23, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP5XaFH6RuQ
Tyler Baker says the Trinity is "Heresy" and "Doctrine of Devils" [0:28]
Steven Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYZ3agbv7d4
Tyler Baker's Latest Strange New Doctrine [12:47]
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKSNr1SnvKY
Hebrews 7 - Eternal Son of God (Melchizedek) | Tyler Baker is an Idiot [11:29]
Jonathan Shelley
GodResource
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok78meluVuM
Tyler Baker Confronted about Printer [2:33]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbiBAF0IV3M
Pastor Roger Jimenez Calls out Tyler Baker [13:06]
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z40EXO3KOvA
Pastor Anderson confronts Tyler Baker on Oneness Heresy [3:33]
Kragen Clan dotcom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyIrVpoxS1M
Tyler Baker Exposed (Ordained by Mommy & Daddy says Pastor Steven Anderson) [2:20]
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BOgQK6vA64
Tyler Baker Can't Stop Lying | Valiant Bapticostal Oneness (Nonfundamental) [1:01]
GodResource (Jonathan Shelley)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC_CMPpjT5U
Oneness Attacks on the Trinity - Tyler Baker, Rick Martinez, and Elliott Ray [24:31]
Discerner of Spirits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDXOwbOLpt8
Tyler Baker Documentary with Jeff Utzler Intro [1:31:26]
* Jake12399
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeyynQTHSko
Tyler Baker calls New IFB a movement of hate / Baker vs Steven Anderson (Part 1) [1:16]
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE8q6XX08eQ
Porky The Pig (Tyler baker) [0:33]
msanchez1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsarqBru7sI
Tyler Baker's Reprobate Mind [0:24]
Dylan KJV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP_hbRM1RIs
Tyler Baker & Friends believe in Pentecostal Oneness [15:31]
Findantruth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiPt2dKWv5k
Tyler "The Trashman" Baker (Pastor Steven Anderson – Adonijah) [3:00]
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU5vDf2PQOE
Thoughts on Tyler Baker & Adam Fannin Jeff W/KJVSOULWINNERS [4:08]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTu5XRzJEkE
Deceived by Tyler Baker Hindsight is 2020 [39:42]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pQBGoW0WDk
Pastor Joe Major: Modalist are not saved! Garrett Kirchway, Tyler Baker, Dominique Davis
[1:02]
[Watch as Joe Major reinforces the Trinity declaring these modalists devils from the beginning who
infiltrated as wolves in sheeps ...]
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOx7LpL07ao
Tyler Baker's Invisible Jesus Doctrine [7:21]
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3uZYrghfmA
Hard Evidence of Tyler Baker Employee Theft [13:20]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uInMJaWh1LI
Tyler Baker Proves His Own Theft [3:48]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFc9AgfZaT0
Is Tyler Baker a Jehovah's Witness? Pastor Steven Anderson [2:01]
Dr. Spurgel made another appearance, this time to rip face on Tyler Bakers invisible Jesus doctrine.
Maybe the disgraced deacon is a closet Jehovah's Witness?
The New IFB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkjZqC5-kMQ
Tyler Baker, the Wolf – Donnie Romero [14:08]
New Ifb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCubQ6LVoDI
Tyler Baker Deceiver & Wolf - Bro Joe [20:31]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOcFm-w8CpQ
Tyler Baker Caught On Camera Lying To Pastor Anderson [24:49]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KceoJhevhGw
Watch: Sissy Tyler Baker Cowers Like Wimpy Puppy [5:00]
My thoughts on soy boy Tyler Baker cowering like a wimp before Pastor Anderson when he's caught
teaching damnable heresy ...
Ben the Baptist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GglFiMjOlk
Tyler Baker - The Epitome of Manhood (Calls Every Pastor in the New IFB a Girl) [4:31]
Verity Baptist Church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmedysDvmt4
Tyler Baker Melting Down [9:09]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fzTUHl73vY&t=192s
COMING SOON: Proof Tyler Baker is not saved!!!! [0:38]
KJV soulwinners
Published on November 2018
[Removed from YouTube]
Tyler Baker: cowardly, cry baby version of a modern day Adonijah the trash collector [19:00]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24jE9Qykjz8
Tyler Baker Lied TO Me - Peter James [20:14]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmmNFcaif2A
Tyler Baker's Weird Teaching On Skirts in the Bible Exposed [13:54]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRR1ZbLGm0o
Tyler Baker Documentary is FINISHED!!! [3:31]
KJV soulwinners
Published on January 27, 2019
[Removed from YouTube]
Doctrinal Dissertation on Oneness/Modalism | A Case Study on Tyler Baker and Valiant Baptist
Church [1:20:23]
KJV soulwinners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHvLVa5zhXo
Tyler Baker teaches Islamic Blasphemy [1:38]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s1aiPkxAio
10. Adam Fannin Interview #1, 30 January 2019
Adam Fannin Interview #2, 09 February 2019
Adam Fannin Interview #3, 24 June 2019
Adam Fannin Interview #4, 26 June 2019
Adam Fannin Interview #5, 16 July 2019
Ben Naim Interview, 23 February 2019
Donnie Romero Interview, 26 June 2019
Elliott Ray Interview 12 February 2019
Interview with “Anonymous #1” former member of Stedfast Baptist Church Jacksonville, 26
June 2019
Interview with “Anonymous #2” former member of Stedfast Baptist Church Fort Worth 19 July
2019
Interview with “Anonymous #3” former member of Stedfast Baptist Church Fort Worth 25 July
2019
Jonathan Shelley Interview, 23 February 2019
Manly Perry Interview, 03 February 2019
Steven Anderson Interview, 09 March 2019
Steven Harper Interview #1, 10 February 2019
Steven Harper Interview #2, 18 July 2019
Steven Harper Interview #3, 19 July 2019
“Implied Assertion” definition, Quimbee Law Database
https://www.quimbee.com/keyterms/implied-assertion
Steven Anderson Uncensored Episode 3 [2:33:08]
Anselm Urban
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6IA3sJ6YHk
MP4 Downloaded for this video
Casinos and Gambling are Wicked! [1:29]
MP4 Downloaded for this video
Why I Love the New IFB & Stedfast JAX [27:00]
With Adam Fannin
Adam Fannin responds to the resignation of Donnie Romero
Stedfast Jacksonville
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqX6VWLEfsI&feature=youtu.be
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video.
Who is STEDFAST? [7:02]
With Adam Fannin
Adam Fannin makes a statement, indicating that he is preparing to make a stand against Stedfast Ft.
Worth and Steven Anderson
Published on Jan 6, 2019 [@ approx. 8am Eastern Time]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQY--6Ykd1w
Stedfast JAX Waiting for a Better Option [00:00:37]
With Adam Fannin
Adam Fannin stands with the majority of Stedfast Jacksonville families and says no to Jonathan
Shelley as their pastor, essentially saying he's not leaving!
Premiered 6 hours ago [Jan 6, 2019 @ approx.1pm Eastern Time]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpRJec5n96Y
THE NEW IFB MAFIA [8:58]
With Adam Fannin
Independent Fundamental
Premiered 12 hours ago [@ approx 1am Eastern Time 8 Jan 2019]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQo-FgjJ4lU&feature=youtu.be
Statement on Stedfast Jacksonville Events [14:20]
With Adam Fannin
Independent Fundamental
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OZEqZn8v2U
I’m sorry for the sins I’ve committed and the people I’ve hurt [8:42]
With Donnie Romero
faithaloneromero
Thank you to all the people that have been a help and an encouragement to my wife. I don’t want this
video to be a hindrance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf_ZQNgXexQ&feature=youtu.be
Drive Furiously or Let Her Drive [45:19]
With Adam Fannin
Adam Fannin's Sunday Morning Service
Streamed live Jan 6, 2019 [@ approx. 10:30am Eastern Time]
Streamed live 9 hours ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHxOT1pAmDA
Audio MP3 has been downloaded for this video.
Confirming Disciples - Teaching Doctrine to New Believers [1:09:11]
With Adam Fannin
Adam Fannin's Sunday Night Service
Premiered Jan 6, 2019 @ approx.7pm Eastern Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSAi3RfBDKI
Audio MP3 has been downloaded for this video
Anti-Adam Fannin Videos:
Adam Fannin Against Sarah Silverman,
Adam Fannin & Stedfast Jacksonville Rebellion
Adam Fannin & The People in Jacksonville are Wicked!
Adam Fannin Changed the Word of God!,
Adam Fannin Demonstrates Covered Feeding
Adam Fannin Exposed
Adam Fannin finally ordains himself as Pastor!,
Adam Fannin is so loving, so godly. (Pastor Steven Anderson),
Adam Fannin is worse than Donnie Romero – Son of Belial says Pastor Steven Anderson
Adam Fannin Lies,
Adam Fannin Lies Again!
Adam Fannin's Blasphemous Image,
Adam Fannin’s Church Has No Biblical Authority,
Adam Fannin Stedfast Jax Rebellion,
Adam Fannin’s Weird Proverbs 5 Interpretation
Adam Fannin the Heady False Prophet,
Adam Fannin Was Destroyed By Pride,
A Message to Adam Fannin,
As a Dog Returneth to His Vomit,
ATTN: Stedfast Jacksonville Rebellion
Audit of Financial Records in Jacksonville Complete,
BAD BOYS
Bastard Fannin’s “New Spirit”
Be Content – Bro Ken Smith
Ben the Baptist w/ Pastor Shelley, Jeff Utzler, Stedfast Leadership
Be Ye Stedfast - Pastor Jonathan Shelley,
BOMBSHELL: Stedfast Jax Audit Complete!
“Church Planting” Pastor Jonathan Shelley
Church Website Now Shrine to Adam Fannin
Congregational Ordination is Not an Ordination
Decently and In Order (Church Planting and Ordinations) by Pastor Tommy McMurtry 9119
Dirty Donnie Romero Exposed by Pastor Manly Perry
Donnie Romero Admits That Adam Fannin Did Not Embezzle Money
Donnie Romero Exposes Steven Anderson Lies About Adam Fannin New IFB Baptist Bad Pastors
Donnie Romero Says Brother Fannin Had Nothing To Do With Any Of This
Doubletalk from Adam Fannin
Fannin Fired and Romero Hypocrisy
Fannin Followers: Your Trash Can Awaits
Fear Thou NOT
Flatterer Fannin Flattered His Flattering Follower
Floundering Fannin – Statement on Stedfast Jacksonville Events
Hosea 7 (Liars, thieves, and silly doves)
How to Respond to an Evil Report
I am STEDFAST,
I Must Be About My Father’s Business – Bro. Marcel
Info about Donnie Romero’s sins by Pastor Steven Anderson
I Stand with Stedfast Jax and the Truth
I Will Have NO FELLOWSHIP With Law of Liberty Cult Members
Jonathan Shelley did better than I could do says Pastor Steven Anderson,
Jonathan Shelley: Stedfast Jacksonville & Adam Fannin
Judah or Judas?
Law of Liberty Baptist Church is A Joke
Lazy Fannin Bare-Minimum Soul Winner,
Let’s Go Soulwinning! Pure Words Baptist Church-Stedfast Baptist Church
LOL Baptist Church
LOLBC Clowns Ordain Adam Fannin
Make Not Provision for the Flesh – Pastor Jason Robinson
Mothering Moment #4: Breastfeeding & Modesty
My Thoughts on What is Happening with Stedfast Baptist Church
My wife knew Adam Fannin was no good from day one says Pastor Steven Anderson,
New IFB Week in Review w/ Pastors Steven Anderson, Jonathan Shelley, Aaron Thompson [Jan 14,
2019]
Ordination of Jonathan Shelley at Stedfast Baptist Church,
Ordination Truths
Pastor Anderson Responds to Adam Fannin
Pastor Anderson Update on Stedfast Baptist Church
Pastor Donnie Romero of Stedfast Baptist Church Absolves Adam Fannin of Wrongdoing in Church
Scandal
Pastor Donnie Romero Steps Down from Stedfast Baptist Church
Pastor Jonathan Shelley Addresses Stedfast Jacksonville
Pastor Jonathan Shelley Offers Help to Stedfast Baptist Church
Pastor Jonathan Shelley Rebukes Adam Fannin
Pastor McMurtry Rips Law of Liberty Fake Church (Adam Fannin and Jake Strickland EXPOSED)
Pastor Shelley – Mark Those in the Photo – Stedfast Jacksonville Rebellion/Adam Fannin
Pastor Shelley’s Message to Saran Silverman
Pastor Steven Anderson: The Latest in Adam Fannin
Profile of Donnie Romero & Adam Fannin
Railing – Pastor Jonathan Shelley
Resignation of Pastor Romero
Sarah Silverman Jonathan Shelley rides Adam Fannins coattails
Satan Hath Desired to Have You
Sermon Ideas for Adam Fannin
"Sheba the Son of Bichri" (Adam Fannin Exposed),
Serving the LORD With All Humility of Mind - Bro. Marcel,
Split in Jacksonville is Necessary,
Statement on Stedfast Jacksonville Events
Stealing? Audit of Financial Records in Jacksonville – Pastor Steven Anderson/Adam Fannin
Stedfast Baptist Church Backs Pastor Jonathan Shelley!
Stedfast Baptist Church Jacksonville – Adam Fannin
Stedfast Baptist Church Jacksonville – Returning to Jerusalem,
Stedfast Baptist Church Update
Stedfast Baptist Jacksonville - Let's rebuild!,
Stedfast Baptist JAX Church Split,
Stedfast in Fort Worth of One Accord: We Are Behind Pastor Shelley!
Stedfast Jacksonville Supports Pastor Jonathan Shelley!
Stedfast Jax: A New Era,
Stedfast Jax Reacts to Fannin Firing,
Stedfast Jax Rebellion,
Stedfast Jax: You want back in? Make a video and beg for it says Pastor Steven Anderson,
Stedfast Jax vs Stedfast Jacksonville (Donnie Romero, Adam Fannin)
Take the money and run! (Adam Fannin, Donnie Romero Exposed by Pastor Steven Anderson),
T.D. Jakes Supports Shelley on Jacksonville Church Split
Them That Sin Rebuke Before All – Pastor Manly Perry
The Fall of Donnie Romero
The Righteous Remnant at Stedfast
The Root of All Evil
The Stedfast Jacksonville Split,
The Week in Review 1/29 | Pastors Jonathan Shelley, Joe Major, Steven Anderson and Others [Jan 29,
2019]
Thou Are Inexcusable
Thoughts on Tyler Baker & Adam Fannin Jeff W/KJVSOULWINNERS,
Tried With Fire
Tyler Baker and Co Unlawfully Restrict Open Breastfeeding
Update on Stedfast Baptist Church (Texas/Florida)
URGENT: Beware of Adam Fannin,
We Are Stedfast and FREE!!!!
"What a Time to be Alive" | Pastor Jonathan Shelley,
What if Adam Fannin was NOT fired?
“Who Told Thee That Thou Wast Naked?” by Jonathan Shelley
Why We Kept Our Church Alive
Week in Review: Pastor Jonathan Shelley, Bo Ballard, Theo Matthews, "Jacksonville" Joe, Bro. Eli
[Jan 22, 2019]
Weird Crap Preached by Adam Fannin
Steven Anderson’s Personal Vendetta

While this may seem like beating a dead horse, it is important to understand the mindset of Steven
Anderson, especially since as has been noted before, as Steven Anderson goes, so goes the New IFB.
Unlike his campaigns against others, Anderson’s campaign against Adam Fannin was not confined to
YouTube videos. In fact, it is not an exaggeration to say that Steven Anderson had embarked on a
personal vendetta against Fannin, and engaged in a conspiracy with others to do everything in his
power to destroy Adam Fannin.
As previously noted, on January 3, 2019, Steven Anderson called a meeting of the men of Stedfast
Baptist Church in Fort Worth, Texas. Five men showed up for that meeting. One of them, who has
asked to remain anonymous, stated that during this meeting Anderson revealed Donnie Romero’s sins;
specifically that he had stolen $50,000 from the church, was gambling at casinos, drinking, doing
drugs, and engaging the services of prostitutes. Anderson then told the men not to say anything to
anyone because, “we need to keep Donnie out of jail.”1
According to Steven Anderson himself, the churches in the New IFB are considered autonomous, and
therefore independent from all other New IFB churches.2 However, noted Anderson, when a church
has no pastor, it is no longer independent.3 When Anderson arrived at Stedfast Fort Worth, and
removed Donnie Romero, he effectively removed Stedfast’s independence and placed it under the
authority of his own church. At that point, for all intents and purposes, Stedfast became a satellite of
Faithful Word Baptist Church, thus empowering Anderson to effect any change he personally desired.
One of the first those changes was the firing of Adam Fannin.
Anderson states that when he fired Fannin on the morning of January 4, 2019, he was “respecting the
wishes of the incoming Pastor, who was Pastor Shelley."4 Anderson claims, "He and I were in
communication, in one accord, and we were the legitimate leadership of the church.”5 Look at that
statement again, and remember the date in question, Friday, January 4, 2019. Anderson fired Adam
Fannin at 12:10pm Jacksonville, Florida time. That was at 11:10am Fort Worth, Texas time on that
date.
Anderson stated that at that time, at 11:10am on Friday January 4, 2019, Jonathan Shelley was the
incoming pastor and they -- Anderson and Shelley -- were the "legitimate leadership of the church."
Not the men of Stedfast Baptist Church, but Anderson and Shelley. In an interview with Jonathan
Shelley, he admitted that he was the only candidate for the position of pastor for Stedfast.6 There were
no other candidates, no one else was ever considered. And this was all before the meeting that
Anderson called for later that evening, and certainly before the meeting Anderson called for the
following night where he talked about bringing in Jonathan Shelley and the men of Stedfast “decided”
to accept Shelley as their new pastor. They may think they decided who would be their new pastor, and
they may think Steven Anderson only suggested Jonathan Shelley for the position; but they would be
wrong. Steven Anderson made that decision, and his decision was to install his protege Jonathan
Shelley into the position of pastor of Stedfast Baptist Church.
All those videos that Anderson and Shelley made where they claimed they had been in contact with
Adam Fannin and keeping him the loop, and trying to get him to cooperate are really nothing more than
setting the stage for what Anderson – with the help of Jonathan Shelley, was about to do.
As has been noted, Anderson began with a series of videos he posted to YouTube from January 5-9,
2019, wherein he made accusations against Adam Fannin that moved from subtly implied to explicit,
when he clearly accused Adam Fannin of theft, claiming the police were called, and condemning him
for this alleged theft from the church. We now know that those accusations were all false. Fannin did
not steal anything, and when interviewed, Ben “the Baptist” Naim was emphatic that the police were
never once called on Adam Fannin. In other words, Steven Anderson lied. But not only did he lie and
bear false witness against Adam Fannin, but he was also engaging in hypocrisy. Anderson had already
made it clear that he knew Donnie Romero stole $50,000 from the church, and he also made it clear
that he was not going to hold Romero accountable for this theft, and he took steps to cover it up by
ordering the men at the meeting to not tell anyone about it. Clearly then, stealing from the church was
not a serious crime in Anderson’s mind. Not even stealing $50,000. So any indignation Anderson
presented to the camera for his anti-Adam Fannin assault videos was nothing more than hypocrisy. But
it accomplished what Anderson was trying to achieve, and that was to turn the New IFB sentiment
against Adam Fannin, and that is exactly what Steven Anderson did. It is amazing how easily so many
in the New IFB are manipulated. At the same time, it is also very sad how easily so many in the New
IFB are manipulated.
Once he had Fannin removed from the New IFB, Anderson did not ease up in his campaign against
Fannin. It was not long before two men from the Stedfast satellite church in Jacksonville, Florida began
making the rounds of area casinos, allegedly seeking information about Donnie Romero and Adam
Fannin. Whether they were under orders of Steven Anderson, or took it upon themselves to do this is a
matter of conjecture. At the very least, however, they were there with Anderson’s full blessing.
According to Anderson, the two men, Ben “the Baptist” Naim and Jeff Utzler, visited these casinos
armed with photographs of Donnie Romero and Adam Fannin, allegedly to discover if they had been to
the casinos.7 But we have to ask to what end? Romero had already confessed to visiting the casinos, so
there was no question there, and nothing to learn. And, in an interview with Donnie Romero, he stated
that when Anderson asked him if Fannin was involved in any way, Romero told him no. Adam Fannin
was not involved, and that as far as he knew Fannin had never been in a casino in his life.8 In addition
to this, Romero publicly stated in the comments section of his YouTube apology video, that Adam
Fannin was innocent of any wrong doing.9
Clearly, Anderson had a separate agenda concerning Adam Fannin, and did not care one bit that Fannin was innocent.
Exactly why Anderson was (and is) determined to see Adam Fannin destroyed is unknown, and it is likely the real reason
will ever be known. However, by removing both Donnie Romero and Adam Fannin from the only two positions of
leadership over Stedfast Baptist Church, and installing his sycophantic lap dog Jonathan Shelley as pastor, Anderson now
gained complete control over Stedfast. This is similar to what happened at All Scripture Baptist Church in Knoxville,
Tennessee. When the pastor of the church was removed and Steven Anderson installed Grayson Fritts as pastor in February
2018.
There have been some who have denied Naim and Utzler actually visited any casinos, especially in light of Steven
Anderson’s sermon where he clearly stated that all it takes is walking in through the doors of a casino places one “on a dark
path, my friend, and who knows where you’re going to end up on that dark path. It all starts when you walk into that stupid
casino. … Hey! Run screaming in the other direction because the Bible says, ‘Thou, o man of God flee these things!’ Flee
them! Run away! Get away from that stuff! Don’t go near the casino!”10 “Who would disobey Pastor Anderson’s clear
biblical teaching on this?” they ask. But it was Anderson himself who admitted they had done this, and they clearly had his
blessing to do so.11 Additionally, when they were asked about their casino visit, not only did Naim and Utzler refuse to
deny visiting the casino; but, Ben was quick to clarify which of the Stedfast men did not accompany him and Utzler12; and
Utzler asked if we could thank the bartender for him, and tell her “the chicken fingers were delicious.”13
Interviews with local casino employees revealed that Ben Naim and Jeff Utzler did indeed visit them, armed
with photos of two men (allegedly photos of Romero and Fannin). The casino employees we spoke with stated they did not
recognize either Romero or Fannin. The bartender at the Best Bet Casino in Jacksonville said she remembers Naim and
Utzler coming in and showing her the photos, and then staying for lunch.14
A former member of Stedfast Jacksonville who has asked to remain anonymous stated, “You know, I wouldn’t put it past
them. I wouldn’t put it past them to try and frame him. It’s just super sad. I heard some rumors they were going to try some
stuff like that to try and incorporate Bro. Fannin in Donnie Romero’s sin.”15 This individual went on to say that no one
even had the idea to investigate Fannin, “until Shelley tried to fire Adam Fannin. When he first tried to fire Adam Fannin, I
feel like at that point a switch went off in their minds, and they’re like, ‘ruin Adam Fannin’s life.’ I don’t think they care if
they frame him, or if they are truthful or not, obviously. You can see it in their videos, they don’t care if they’re telling the
truth or not. They’re just [throwing] everything they can at Adam Fannin. I mean, if the worst thing they can say against him
is he’s a flatterer, you’re going to say he’s a reprobate, he’s unsaved because he’s a flatterer? I mean, like there’s no other
flatterers? Ben the Baptist is like the biggest flatterer ever to some of those guys. He was to Adam Fannin too. I feel like
they are just trying to ruin Bro. Fannin’s life.”16
When one takes into consideration the complete lack of evidence against Adam Fannin, coupled with Romero’s exoneration
of him, and Anderson’s knowledge of that; Anderson’s actions in this situation are very suspect to say the least, and
certainly demonstrate what kind of man he really is.
Sources:
1. Interview with former member of Stedfast Baptist Church conducted 25 July 2019. This person
expressed legitimate concern for their personal safety and the safety of their family, as based on their
personal experience with the Stedfast pastor and other members of Stedfast.
2. Interview with Steven Anderson conducted 09 March 2019
3. Ibid
4. Ibid
5. Ibid
6. Interview with Jonathan Shelley conducted 23 Feb 2019
sanderson1611
Streamed live 06 June 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Zk6D9xsjI&t=8331s
8. Interview with Donnie Romero conducted 26 June 2019
9. I’m sorry for the sins I’ve committed and the people I’ve hurt
[Donnie Romero apology video]
Uploaded by: shedrock
Published January 9, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q80awpau7F4&t=12s
10. Casinos and Gambling are Wicked
Uploaded by: sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson)
published on February 21, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TiehZzRlJY
2 Corinthians 8 (Love of Money, Giving, Deep Poverty)
Streamed live on February 20, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDc8KGFQ8E4
Streamed live on June 6, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CxPJwzIjhQ&t=4111s
Streamed live on August 10, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CxPJwzIjhQ&t=4111s
13. Video comment from Jeff Utzler
14. Casino’s in the area include Best Bet Casino Jacksonville, Best Bet Casino Orange Park, Victory
Casino, Daytona Racing and Card Club, Emerald Princess Casino, and Big M Casino.
Interview with Best Best Jacksonville Bartender July 2019
15. Interview with a second former member of Stedfast Baptist Church conducted on 26 June 2019.
This person expressed legitimate concern for their personal safety and the safety of their family, as
based on their personal experience with the Stedfast pastor and other members of Stedfast.
16. Ibid
The New IFB Gets Political
With all of this vitriolic hatred, one wonders if it is contained and confined to internet ranting and
railing. The answer is no. This much hatred will naturally flow into other areas of the New IFBer’s life,
as is evidenced by some of the sermons preached from the pulpit in New IFB churches, as well as the
actions of some New IFBer’s.
On August 16, 2009, Steven Anderson preached a sermon titled, “Why I Hate Barack Obama,”1 during
which he stated, “Barack Obama’s coming to town tomorrow morning. … And I’m gonna tell you
something, I hate Barack Obama. You say, ‘you mean you just don’t like what he stands for.’ No! I hate
the person! You say, “oh you just don’t like his policies.’ No! I hate him! Now, I’m gonna prove from
the Bible tonight why I should hate Barack Obama, why God wants me to hate Barack Obama! Why
God hates Barack Obama!” Anderson then attempts to justify his words by twisting Psalm 58 and other
passages. He claims that because Obama approves of abortion, which sometimes uses a saline solution
which Anderson claims causes an unborn baby to melt just as salt makes a snail melt, Obama is a
reprobate beyond salvation and worthy of death and eternal damnation. I guess he expects people to
ignore that salt does not melt babies and snails. It kills them yes, but it does not melt them. Perhaps he
is employing some dramatic license. Of course, that would mean he is intentionally distorting the text
of Scripture, but we’ll overlook that for the moment lest we find ourselves running down that rabbit
trail.
Anderson continues, “Let me tell you something. I don’t love Barack Obama. I don’t respect Barack
Obama. I don’t obey Barack Obama, and I’d like to see Barack Obama melt like a snail tonight.
Because he needs to recompense. He needs to reap what he’s sown. Any Christian will tell you that
someone who commits murder should get the death penalty. Because that’s what it says in Genesis
chapter nine, that’s what it says in the Mosaic Law, that’s what it teaches throughout the Bible. ‘Whoso
sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God created he man.’
Of course, this isn’t word for word from Genesis 9:6, as Anderson added the word “created,” but again,
let’s set his distortion of the text aside for a moment. He goes on, “And when Barack Obama is gonna
push his partial birth abortion, his salty saline solution abortion, hey, he deserves to be punished for
what he’s done, and I’m not gonna pray for God to bless Barack Obama, this is my prayer tonight for
Barack Obama. You see, your prayer is never more right than when you pray God’s word. I don’t know
if you know this, but many times I like to pray God’s word. … If somebody is gonna twist my arm
behind my back and tell me pray for Barack Obama, this is what I’m gonna pray, because this is the
only prayer that applies to him: ‘break his teeth O God, in his mouth! You know, as a snail which
melteth, let him pass away like the untimely birth of a woman, that he thinks, he calls it a woman’s
right to choose, you know, he thinks it’s so wonderful, he oughta be aborted! It oughta be Abort
Obama! It oughta be the motto.”
Okay, let’s stop for just a moment to point out the obvious. Did Barack Obama kill someone? Or did he
make it legal to kill someone? There is an important distinction here. Yes, what Obama did was
certainly evil, and he will likely face punishment at the great white throne judgment for what he has
done. But let’s not use that fact as justification for distorting other facts. If Anderson is going to hold
people guilty for the sinful and criminal actions of others simply because they provided the possibility
for them to engage in those sinful and criminal actions; then he is also going to have hold every
Walmart that sells sharp knives accountable for the actions of those who stab people to death. He is
going to have to hold every sporting goods store that sells firearms accountable for the actions of those
who shoot people. Do you see the logic (or lack of logic) in Anderson’s thinking?
Anderson continues, “Look, people who are bloody and violent are evil people. I mean, do you love
Adolph Hitler? Do you love Joseph Stalin? Do you love Mao Tse Tung? Do you love these evil sadistic
butchers of history? No! If you were to meet Jeffrey Dahmer in real life, if you were to meet John
Wayne Gacy, or if Adolph Hitler could come back from the dead and be in church, I’m sure you’d go
and shake his hand and tell him it’s good to have you. No! The Bible said in Hosea 9:14, ‘Throw them
out of the congregation of the Lord, I will love them no more!’2 Violent, bloody, wicked people, He’s
sayin’ get them away from me!” … “Barack Obama is one of the rulers of the darkness of this world.”
… “He’s a Pentecostal Charimatic. Didn’t you see his pastor wearing a dress? Woooooooo!” … “and
yet you’re gonna tell me that I’m supposed to pray for the socialist devil, murderer, infanticide, who
wants to see young children, and he wants to see babies killed through abortion and partial birth and all
these other things, and you’re gonna tell me I supposed to pray that God would give him a good lunch
tomorrow while he’s in Phoenix, Arizona. Nope. I’m not gonna pray for his good. I’m gonna pray that
he dies and goes to hell. When I go to bed tonight, that’s how I’m gonna pray. And you say, ‘are you
just sayin’ that?’ No. When I go to bed tonight Steven L. Anderson is gonna pray for Barack Obama to
die and go to hell.”
Okay, we have to stop once again and look at what Anderson has said here. First, his comparing Hitler,
Stalin, and Mao, who actually ordered the deaths of millions of people, to Barack Obama who made it
possible for those who want to kill babies to be able to do so legally. Then he compares Obama to
Dahmer and Gacy who actually did the killing themselves. Again, did Barack Obama actually plunge a
knife into someone, or inject a baby with saline? Did he actually kill someone? No, of course not. Nor
did he order anyone to kill babies or anyone else.
Then Anderson quotes Hosea 9:14. Or at least he claims he is quoting Hosea 9:14. Only he isn’t. Just as
he twists the Scriptures noted above, he really misquotes this passage. He quotes Hosea 9:14 as,
“Throw them out of the congregation of the Lord, I will love them no more!” Which sounds good, and
sounds like it supports what he is saying. But the passage actually states, “Give them, O Lord: what
wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.” Not even close, is it?
What he is trying to quote, but still doesn’t get right, is Hosea 9:15, which states, “All their wickedness
is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine
house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.” This passage is speaking about the
Assyrian conquer of Israel, which was brought about by God because of Israel’s gross immorality and
idolatry. This isn’t even remotely supportive of what Anderson is teaching. What’s more, Israel was
brought back. So, if Anderson is comparing Obama to Israel, he must then believe that God caused
Obama to do this as punishment for Obama’s immorality and idolatry, and that Obama can be brought
back as well. But that conflicts with Anderson’s earlier statement that Obama was a reprobate beyond
salvation! There is nothing in this passage of Scripture, or any passage of Scripture, that supports
Anderson railing against Barack Obama.
Anderson then goes on in his sermon, ranting and railing about how unjust war is, and how wrong it is
to pay taxes, and reciting Declaration of Independence at the top of his lungs. He goes from preaching
what is supposed to be the Bible (but obviously isn’t), to releasing his inner “True Born Sons of
Liberty” persona (an anti-government “Tea Party”/Militia/Sovereign Citizen/“Patriot” style
organization founded by Steven Anderson in the early 2000’s). Anderson begins screaming, “We are
not revolutionaries, we’re not trying to overthrow the government. We are counter-revolutionaries,
because the revolution is what’s going on right there in Phoenix at 8am tomorrow where Obama is
overturning the Constitution. Overturning the Declaration of Independence. Overturning everything we
believe as a country. Overturning two hundred and some years of history. He is the revolutionary, and
it’s a socialist, communist revolution. We are the counter-revolutionary's saying, NO! We don’t want
change! We want to go back to the way it was started! A country under God! A free country! A country
of liberty and justice for all! Anybody, everyone, whatever their race, whatever their citizenship, HEY!
They’re BORN with liberty! Created with liberty! The government doesn’t give us our liberty, the
government is only supposed to protect our liberty. Our liberty comes from God.”
Anderson goes on, “So I hope tonight you understand why I hate Barack Obama. Don’t tell me to love
him, don’t tell me how I’m to love him, I’m a loving guy. … And you know what, God does not love
the pedophile, and the rapist, and the bloody and deceitful worker of iniquity. He said He hates ’em.
And I believe the Bible, that He hates them. I believe God looks down and says, ‘Man, I hate that guy.’
You say, ‘Well, why is he in office?’ Because you know what? God allows this world to run its course. I
mean, He’s not up there..if He were it’d be a much better place. One day He will. It’s called the
millennium, when Jesus will rule this world. ‘Oh Jesus’ up on His throne, everything’s okay.’ When His
throne is on this earth, everything will be okay. A thousand years of peace. No blood will be shed
during that thousand years. It’s going to be a peaceful time on this earth. Even the lion will lay down
with the lamb. Even the animal kingdom will not destroy one another. It’s gonna be a wonderful time.
But today there is spiritual wickedness in high places. Now, I’m preaching against Barack Obama, it’s
not all him. But he is just the tip of the sword, okay? He is the figurehead of spiritual wickedness in
high places. And he’s comin’ to Arizona tomorrow. Don’t go there and scream and cheer for him. I
know people are planning on it. Don’t go there and get a tear in the eye. No, go to the prayer closet and
get a tear in the eye for our country. And if I go there, which I’m not ’cause I’m busy tomorrow, but if I
went there I’d be there to say ‘Down with Obama!” okay? You know, I’d be down there protesting
Obama and all. But I’m not really a protest kind of guy. I’m a preacher. And so I’m preaching to you
what the Bible teaches tonight. Take it and let it sink down into your ears.”3
In less than 24-hours it became very clear that at least one person in his congregation let that sink down
into his ears. Chris Broughton, one of Anderson’s followers and a member of his church, arrived at
Obama’s appearance with a fully loaded AR-15 slung over his shoulder and a loaded semi-automatic
handgun prominently displayed on his hip. Prior to this, another so-called “Patriot”, William Kostric,
showed up at a similar Obama health care rally in New Hampshire. What’s the connection you may
ask? Both Kostric and Broughton are members of the Arizona chapter of “We the People,” an anti-
government “Tea Party”/Militia/Sovereign Citizen/“Patriot” style organization similar to Anderson’s
“True Born Sons of Liberty” (Kostric had moved to New Hampshire by the time Broughton attended
the Arizona rally).4
In July 2009, just one month prior to his “I Hate Barack Obama” rant sermon, Anderson was at a “Tea
Party” rally in Gilbert, Arizona where he spoke to hundreds of Chris Broughton’s and William
Kostric’s, telling them about how he has spilled his blood for the liberty of America (neglecting to
mention that he brought it upon himself by both breaking the law and violating Scripture in the
process), and that the government, specifically Barack Obama, was the enemy and must be stood up
to.5
Anderson also has a connection to the Arizona chapter of the We the People organization, the same
organization Chris Broughton has admitted belonging to, and which William Kostric is known to have
belonged to. In April 2009, just months before Anderson’s infamous Obama sermon and his attendance
at a “Tea Party” rally, he was involved (at his instigation) in an incident involving the Border Patrol and
Arizona DPS officers. Prior to this incident, Anderson had a long history of intentionally baiting Border
Patrol and law enforcement officers and hindering from doing their job at legal check points. He would
purposely attract the attention of these officers when arriving at a check point, knowing full well they
would react by pulling him over to check his driver’s license, and so forth. Anderson admits he had
been doing this for months prior to the incident where he was tazed, and he also has numerous videos
posted to his YouTube channel documenting this long term pattern of doing this.6
When pulled over, however, Anderson would begin to refuse to comply with their requests, ostensibly
standing up for his Constitutional rights. In other words, he made an issue out of a non-issue. This is
typical behavior for those involved in the “Tea Party”/Militia/Sovereign Citizen/“Patriot” type
movements. Create a situation, become involved in the situation, push law enforcement to react, and
then when they do react, scream as loud as possible that they are being victimized by bully boy police.
And this is exactly what Steven Anderson did in April 2009. After repeatedly baiting the Border Patrol
and other Law Enforcement officers, hoping they would react, in April 2009 they finally did, and
almost immediately out came the victim card; and also almost immediately, Anderson began making
the rounds among various “Patriot” groups, telling the story of how he has shed his blood standing up
for the United States Constitution, and encouraging others to do the same.7
After his arrest and being charged, Anderson engaged the services of Marc J. Victor, and attorney who
specializes in these types of cases, and who is also connected to the We the People group that Chris
Broughton is connected to. Victor is connected through a man by the name of Ernest Hancock, the
founder of the Freedom’s Phoenix organization.114 Previously, Victor had helped a young man by the
name of Jason Shelton, who uses the pseudonym Shelton Obadiah and goes by “4409” on YouTube.
Anderson at one time had many of Obadiah’s videos in his favorite video list, all of them revolving
around one subject – you guessed it, how to incite the police during stops and at check points.115
Anderson has since made those videos either private or removed them altogether from his YouTube
channel.
It was Ernest Hancock who proudly exclaimed in a broadcast interview with Anderson that he would be
ensuring Anderson received the best legal representation during his impending court case. That legal
representation was Marc Victor.116 Hancock himself is affiliated with the We the People organization8,
the same “counter-revolutionary” organization Anderson’s congregant, Chris Broughton, and also
William Kostric are affiliated with. So for Broughton to say Anderson had no influence on him when he
decided to openly bear loaded semi-automatic firearms to a Barack Obama rally is far-fetched to say
the least.
Anderson was clear when he stated that “God hates Barack Obama” and that he hates Barack Obama,
and that Obama hates God. Something one of his congregants parroted when he said, “I hate people
that hate God.” Broughton, however, claims Anderson’s hate message was the motivation for his
attending the Obama rally armed to the teeth.
Broughton told a reporter with the Arizona Republic, “I want attention brought to the ideas that I
espouse. … I don't think the political process works anymore. It is done. . . . This government is the
most corrupt Mafioso on the face of the Earth. … It's as simple as this. The people who support
government, the ones who like government, they are using government like a weapon. The government
continues to take over more and more things.” Broughton went on, however, to tell the Associated
Press that he “absolutely” agreed with Anderson’s anti-Obama sentiments, and that he wanted Obama
to die.9 Scary stuff, even ten years after the incident. Primarily because Steven Anderson and his New
IFB is still preaching hate.
Christopher Broughton’s armed to the teeth mentality is not limited to presidential rallies by the way. It
has been reported that he sometimes brings his AR-15 with him to worship at Anderson’s Faithful Word
Baptist Church. While the average person might think this is unusual, for Anderson’s church it is
standard operating procedure. You see, Anderson encourages it. In fact, in December 2014, he preached
from the pulpit that “every Christian should own a weapon” and in November 2017 he explained in a
YouTube video (taken from one of his many violence advocating sermons, that he not only allows, but
encourages his congregants to be armed with a firearm when in attendance at his church, treating both
the open and concealed carrying of firearms almost as if they were sacraments in his church.10
Sources:
1. Why I Hate Barack Obama
Steven Anderson
August 16, 2009, Sunday PM service
Note: the video has been removed from YouTube. The mp3 is, as of this date, still available on the
Faithful Word website, and has been downloaded from there.
http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/081609p.mp3
Accessed 23 September 2019
2. Ibid
3. Ibid
4. Steven Anderson Flips Out, Admits Business and Church Share an Address, Says He's Been
Contacted by U.S. Secret Service (w/Update)
Stephen Lemons | September 6, 2009
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/steven-anderson-flips-out-admits-business-and-church-share-
an-address-says-hes-been-contacted-by-us-secret-service-w-update-6498941
'I Hate Obama' Pastor Draws Protesters Outside Church
By Jennifer Riley, Christian Post Reporter | Tuesday, September 08, 2009
https://www.christianpost.com/news/i-hate-obama-pastor-draws-protestors-outside-church-40764/
Christopher Broughton's Pastor Steven Anderson Prays for President Barack Obama's Death
Stephen Lemons | August 26, 2009
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/christopher-broughtons-pastor-steven-anderson-prays-for-
president-barack-obamas-death-6500993
Protesters Rally Against Pastor's 'Why I Hate Obama' Sermon
By Susan Donaldson James | Sept. 7, 2009
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/arizona-protesters-rally-obama-hating-pastor/story?id=8510835
AR-15 Chris Broughton on the Alex Jones show - August 20th 2009
MP3 of live radio show with Alex Jones
08-20-2009
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/055947-2009-08-20-ar15-chris-b-on-the-alex-jones-show-
august-20th.htm
Update on protestor with assault rifle at Obama event in Phoenix
Posted by AzBlueMeanie, August 22, 2009
https://arizona.typepad.com/blog/2009/08/update-on-guns-at-obama-event-in-phoenix.html
Gun-Toter From Obama Event: I, Like My Pastor, Want The President To Die
By Justin Elliott | August 31, 2009
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/gun-toter-from-obama-event-i-like-my-pastor-want-the-
president-to-die
5. Gilbert Arizona Tea Party - Pastor Steven L Anderson Speaks AZ
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVemYhWSFPM
7/6/09 Broadcast "Tea Party Speech Part 1 (Gilbert AZ)"
Steven Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abjSK2-RsmY
7/7/09 Broadcast "Tea Party Speech Part 2 (Gilbert AZ)"
Steven Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a40JC1yzETM
7/8/09 Broadcast "Phoenix Tea Party Speech on July 4 AZ"
Steven Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6ziYM0jLZA
6. Pastor Tased and "Beaten" at Checkpoint Plans to Sue; Admits He's Been Resisting at
Checkpoints for Months
Ray Stern | April 17, 2009
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/pastor-tased-and-beaten-at-checkpoint-plans-to-sue-admits-
hes-been-resisting-at-checkpoints-for-months-6661889
I knew something was wrong, but I had no idea...
Henry Porter, Thursday April 16, 2009
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2009/4/16/721030/-I-knew-something-was-wrong,-but-I-had-no-idea
Pastor Claims Abuse at Border Patrol Checkpoint on Interstate 8
Ray Stern | April 16, 2009
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/pastor-claims-abuse-at-border-patrol-checkpoint-on-
interstate-8-6665080
Abusive Border Patrol Agents w/ Nun Chucks at NM Checkpoint
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFS7oZtE8Ks
Baptist pastor beaten + tazed by Border patrol - 11 stitches
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUzd7G875Hc
ACTUAL FOOTAGE Pastor Beaten & Tased by Border Patrol & DPS
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJF5cUWXA_A
I’m Not Sure If I’m An American Citizen or Not
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=b0b3xV8smt8&t=0s&list=FLq7BdmVpQsay5XrwOgMhN5w&index=517
Randomly Stopped and Searched for WMD's in North Texas!
sanderson1611
v=XSgR4ujCBWA&t=0s&list=FLq7BdmVpQsay5XrwOgMhN5w&index=502
Police threaten to KILL Pastor over License Plate Light being Burned Out
sanderson1611
v=tYjI138u1z0&index=485&list=FLq7BdmVpQsay5XrwOgMhN5w&t=0s
How Many Checkpoints in One Morning?! Welcome to the Police State!
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDCXzqgD99o
Citizen of Israel vs. Nazi Checkpoints
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFk2SQfoBio
7. Steve Anderson Arizona Breakfast Club Phoenix Arizona
oneidea2112
Sponsored by Freedom's Phoenix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm9ch28uS9M
Steve Anderson Arizona Breakfast Club 2 of 2 phoenix Arizona
oneidea2112
Sponsored by Freedom's Phoenix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d86UYQGE7TA
Pastor Steven Anderson interview on Freedom's Phoenix TV
WeAreChangeAZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z_tDivKVcQ
8. My Journey to Libertarianville
by Marc J. Victor
https://attorneysforfreedom.com/articles-by-marc-j-victor/my-journey-to-libertarianville
Jekyll Island: A New Beginning for America
May 25, 2009
https://wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/Update2009-05-25.htm
4409 vs The Road Pirates
Marc J. Victor
https://attorneysforfreedom.com/blognews/4409-vs-the-road-pirates
Urban Dictionary: Definition of “4409”
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=4409
In the following articles, Steven Anderson is shown to not only socialize with Ernest Hancock and
Jason “4409” Shelton, and other We the People types, but they also call him “friend”:
Steven Anderson's Yuma City Warrant for "Disorderly Conduct," and RP4409's Moronic Misuse
of the Word "Nazi" (w/Update)
Stephen Lemons | September 3, 2009
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/steven-andersons-yuma-city-warrant-for-disorderly-conduct-
and-rp4409s-moronic-misuse-of-the-word-nazi-w-update-6502719
Pastor Steven Anderson has warrant out for his arrest
Written by Powell Gammill Date: 09-01-2009
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/056644-2009-09-01-pastor-steven-anderson-has-warrant-
out-for-his-arrest.htm
4409 -- NAZI Checkpoint Confronted - 3
Written by Forty Four O Nine Subject: Videos by 4409
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/051378-2009-06-06-4409-nazi-checkpoint-confronted-3.htm
Scottsdale Arrests Photo Radar Protester, But Did Police Break His Toe, Too?
Ray Stern | August 29, 2008
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/scottsdale-arrests-photo-radar-protester-but-did-police-break-
his-toe-too-6660800
9. A representative list of some of Steven Anderson’s favorite YouTube videos (note, many have been
either made private or removed from YouTube by Steven Anderson):
“Passengers are NOT required to Show ID to Police!”
“Call to Benson Police Department who threaten to KILL Pastor”
“WTC 7 blew itself up out of sympathy for the twin towers.”
“How to handle a Census Worker” [Instructions on how to avoid answering all the census questions]
“Arrested over Arizona's Real I.D. Paper's Please SB1070 bill”
“NAZI Checkpoint Guards get a taste of their own medicine!”
“Customs K9 Team Deployed at Internal Immigration Checkpoint”
“(Busted) Redflex Photo Radar red light Scams on video!”
“Has agent 4409 inspected your trash?”
“EXTORTION COURT 101”
“Play “Know Your Rights” A Nazi Style Check Point Inside the USA,”
“DHS Checkpoint Blog Entry 9: 'Cruz' Control”
“DHS Checkpoint Blog Entry 14: Obedience Training”
10. Pastor Steven Anderson interview on Freedom's Phoenix TV
WeAreChangeAZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z_tDivKVcQ
Jekyll Island: A New Beginning for America
May 25, 2009
https://wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/Update2009-05-25.htm
Midwifing the Militias
Heidi Beirich
Intelligence Project Director
March 02, 2010
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2010/midwifing-militias
Resist Tyranny with a "Death by a Thousand Cuts" Guerrilla Strategy
Submitted by Dave Hodges on Saturday, October 12, 2013
https://thecommonsenseshow.com/activism/resist-tyranny-death-thousand-cuts-guerrilla-strategy
AR-15 Chris Broughton on the Alex Jones show - August 20th 2009
MP3 of live radio show with Alex Jones
08-20-2009
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/055947-2009-08-20-ar15-chris-b-on-the-alex-jones-show-
august-20th.htm
Update on protestor with assault rifle at Obama event in Phoenix
Posted by AzBlueMeanie, August 22, 2009
https://arizona.typepad.com/blog/2009/08/update-on-guns-at-obama-event-in-phoenix.html
Gun-Toter From Obama Event: I, Like My Pastor, Want The President To Die
By Justin Elliott | August 31, 2009
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/gun-toter-from-obama-event-i-like-my-pastor-want-the-
president-to-die
Every Christian should own a Weapon
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD9oiT5qaEM
Why we allow and encourage firearms at our service
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NAeF8CgpTE
See Also:
Christian's Duty to Carry a GUN
Adam Fannin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPZ25hCX75g
For other examples of Steven Anderson’s violent hatred, please see:
Pastor Steven Anderson Crazy Rants – Compilation
Surfer Brendan
Published December 16, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttxumEkHnKE&feature=youtu.be
Steven Anderson's Hatred and Railing
Christopher Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpdkZwISgRg
Steven Anderson's Hatred and Wrath
Christopher Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2JgwH2ir0s
Pastor Steven Anderson Epic Rant
The Kragen Clan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Bvyp0gyQs&feature=youtu.be
Best Pastor Steven Anderson Rants/Hard Preaching pt 3
Baptist 1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUD0SIjWWAY
Pastor Steven Anderson - Jeremiah 16
On!yDaTruth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TK3fA_iTQQ
Domestic Violence and the New IFB

The violence and hatred inherent in the New IFB movement is not limited to Steven Anderson’s pulpit
messages and the plethora of assault videos on YouTube, as can be seen in the following examples.
On July 17, 2016, Richard Miller, an early protégé of Steven Anderson gave a sermon titled, “What A
Time To Be Alive” while at Anderson’s church. During this sermon, Miller talked about what he called
the “manly things”, such as shooting guns, hunting food, and fighting. According to Miller, these are
what men and only men do. “It’s a manly thing to fight! It’s something that men do,” Miller said. He
went on to exclaim, “if you’re a man, you oughta love to fight!”1 Miller gave this sermon after
attending Anderson’s church for several years, and shortly before Anderson ordained Miller to the
ministry. It seems odd that Anderson would ordain Miller as a pastor after giving a sermon such as this
one, especially considering God’s word clearly states in Titus 1:7 that one of the qualifications for
being a pastor is that the man is not a “striker” meaning he cannot be a contentious or pugnacious
person. And, in 1 Timothy 3:3, God’s word states that a pastor can not only not be a “striker,” but also
cannot be a “brawler” which is from the Greek word, amachon, meaning the person is peaceable, not
prone to fighting, not contentious. In other words, Anderson’s protoge is saying one thing, and the
Bible is saying the complete opposite with regard to being violent.
In spite of his obvious lack of biblical qualifications, Anderson ordained him anyway, and sent him out
to Tennessee to begin “Soul Winning Baptist Church”.2 According to Anderson, with a name like that
it cannot do away with soul winning, otherwise it might just as well shut down. And that is exactly
what happened. Within months of being ordained and opening his new church, Miller simply walked
away from the church, severing all affiliation with Anderson and his New IFB movement.3
Pastor Jonathan Shelley of Pure Words Baptist Church and the Stedfast Baptist Church group of
churches, and also a protégé of Steven Anderson, takes the violence to an entirely new level, and brings
it into the home when he teaches that beating and killing children is mandatory. In a sermon he gave
titled, “Honour Thy Mother and They Father,”4 Shelley points to Proverbs 23:12-15 which states,
“12 Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge. 13 Withhold not
correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. 14 Thou shalt beat him
with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. 15 My son, if thine heart be wise, my heart shall
rejoice, even mine.”
In his “exposition” of this passage, Shelley states that parents who refuse to discipline and correct their
children are disobedient to God and actually hate their children. He claims that beating children is just
as mandatory as the Ten Commandments. After reading this passage from Proverbs, Shelley goes on to
say, “If ya don’t want your kids to go to hell, ya gotta beat ‘em! Ya gotta train ‘em, ya gotta chasten
‘em, ya gotta scourge ‘em! And we see very clearly from this passage, it’s not a suggestion. Verse 14,
‘Thou Shalt Beat Him,’ that’s the same as all the other Ten Commandments.”
While the passage does say a child is to be “beat...with the rod,” while the words “beat” and “rod” quite
literally mean what they say, and the passage is teaching the importance of corporal punishment, the
“rod” is not to be taken literally, but metaphorically. As Tedd Tripp writes in his book, “Shepherding a
Child’s Heart,” “The rod is a parent, in faith toward God and faithfulness toward his or her children,
undertaking the responsibility of careful, timely, measured, and controlled use of physical punishment
to underscore the importance of obeying God, thus rescuing the child from continuing in his
foolishness until death.”5 This would naturally refer to spanking the child. Not slapping or punching or
kicking. Not hitting them in the face, the head, the back, the legs, etc. It means an open handed spank,
on the bottom, with force sufficient to teach and appropriate for the age and size of the child. Texas
pastor Dan Phillips says, “God has thoughtfully provided parents with a ‘bull’s-eye’ that is a well-
padded area which He kept free from sensitive internal organs.”6
The late theologian R.C. Sproul wrote, “Pain can be a great teacher indeed. As any parent of a toddler
will tell you, there are lessons that very young children will not learn without a spanking...Properly
administered physical discipline is an act of love, and as the Bible indicates, those who spare the rod
are hating their children and not showing them love and affection (Prov. 13:24; 22:15; 23:13-14; Heb
12:7-11)”7
The operative phrase here is “properly applied.” As noted, this means an appropriate spanking, not
leaving red marks, welts, broken bones, and worse. The responsible Christian parent is able to express
their love for their child through both praise and encouragement and also appropriate meaningful
discipline and punishment.
Shelley, on the other hand, when preaching this passage is screaming, yelling, pounding the pulpit with
full force almost as if he is imagining himself wailing on a child, with spittle frothing at the corners of
his mouth. It is a frightening scene to be sure. And his admonition to his congregation, “YA GOTTA
SCOURGE ‘EM!!!” is not biblical at all. To scourge someone is to whip them with a small multi-
thonged whip which has pieces of wood and glass embedded in the braided leather thongs. It is
designed to inflict maximum pain and blood loss as it rips pieces of flesh and muscle from the victim
(in Shelley’s case a child) being scourged.
Jesus was beaten and scourged to such a degree that He was no longer recognizable as a human being.
Pastor Shelley would have no doubt been very familiar with that Bible passage (Matt. 20:19; 27:26;
Mark 15:15; Luke 18:33; John 19:1, cf. Isa. 52:14), and thus he would know exactly what scourging
entailed. That he would command – not suggest, but command – that any child be scourged is beyond
reprehensible. Why he, or anyone, who commands that children be beaten severely with wooden rods
and whipped with a scourge as necessary to keep them from hell; who in essence is commanding child
abuse from the pulpit, is even allowed to have custodial rights over any child is beyond comprehension.
And, as if beating and scourging children isn’t bad enough, Shelley goes on to tell his congregation
(and every viewer of the YouTube video of his sermon) that if the beating and scourging doesn’t knock
the rebelliousness out their children, then kill them. He says that lazy, video game playing, rebellious
children are to be put to death. Of course, he later adds a qualifier by saying they “should” be put to
death by the government. This seems to the standard qualifier used by Anderson and his New IFB
movement followers when calling for the deaths of whatever group of people they are railing about at
any given time. They must be put to death, but the government should do it. The death penalty is
mandatory, it’s required, but the government should do it.
And this is apparently the same method of child rearing employed in the Anderson household as well.
Mrs. Anderson has written extensively about problems with modern child rearing methods. In one of
her blog posts she points out the benefits of the “rod of correction” and looks back longingly at her own
upbringing in East Germany with “old-school grandparents.” She writes, “Not like Germany is the
bedrock of strict parenting these days or even was in my days, but being from East Germany and
having had 'old-school' grandparents, I was raised in times and circumstances that were decades 'behind
the times'. When we were newlyweds and young parents, I was often dumbfounded by permissive
American parenting, where it is a virtue among many to let kids walk rough-shod over their parents and
suffer it patiently.” She goes on to write, “Kids do not turn out right overnight, and they are not lost
overnight. They continue for many years on the path of right, lit by God's word, or they continue down
the way of transgressors, unchecked for many years. There are a thousand parenting decisions made
over the course of many years that keep kids on one path, or the other.”8
Former Faith Word church member, and executive producer of Anderson’s New World Order Bible
Versions “documentary,” Paul Berg, related in a YouTube video that when Anderson was told two of
his sons had bullied another boy by drawing a picture of the boy with feces on his face and calling him
“poop face,” Anderson responded by beating his two sons.9 Granted, bullying should never be
tolerated, but drawing a picture of another boy and calling it “poop face” is not all that unusual for
young elementary school children and hardly warrants much punishment at all, much less a beating.
While Mrs. Anderson is correct in her blog post that it is important to keep children on the proper path
when they are growing up, it is almost certain that beating them as her husband allegedly does, or
scourging them as Jonathan Shelley does, are not proper parenting methods. Why Child Protective
Services allows beatings and scourgings (which they apparently do since both the Anderson’s and the
Shelley’s still have their children in their homes) is beyond understanding.
As has been briefly noted elsewhere, Zsuzsanna Anderson, the wife of Steven Anderson, has made it a
point to condone spousal abuse. At least implicitly. While she does say in one of her videos that she
does not recommend a woman remain in a home where the she and her children are in physical danger.
She says, “obviously, if you are in danger of life or limb get out of there. Protect yourself, protect the
children.” She goes on to say, “But it is a very sad situation, it is a lose-lose situation, and unfortunately
I have no advice for that. I don’t know what you should do, or what would be prudent to you, other
than protect yourself from physical harm.”10 This is about the extent of Zsuzsanna Anderson’s advice
for someone who is in “physical danger...danger of life or limb.” Just get out and protect yourself and
your children. Sound advice. But this is the limit of her sound advice to women who are married to
abusive men.
According to the United States Department of Justice, there are five types of abuse possible in the
home.11 They are:
1. Physical Abuse, which consists of striking someone, shoving them, or otherwise intentionally
causing some form of physical injury, regardless of how slight.
2. Sexual Abuse, which consists of rape, unwanted touching of sexual areas of the body, forcibly
kissing, or any forced and unwanted encounter of a sexual nature.
3. Emotional Abuse, which consists of constant unwarranted criticism, repeated name calling, repeated
mockery and belittlement, undermining the victim’s relationship with their children and/or family
friends and/or relatives, intentional dismissing and diminishing of the victim’s abilities and
accomplishments, and other forms of verbal abuse.
4. Economic Abuse, which consists of manipulating the victim in such a manner as to make them
completely financially dependent upon the abuser, by asserting complete and total control over all
finances and all financial decisions, requiring the victim to request and account for any money needed
for household or personal supplies, and similar behaviors involving finances.
5. Psychological Abuse, which consists of threats of harm to the victim and/or the victim’s children and
or the victim’s family members and friends, destroying the victim’s property, killing or otherwise
removing the victim’s pet(s) from the victim, intimidation, forced isolation from family and/or friends
and/or school or work associates, or any other fear inducing behavior.
In her video, Mothering Moment - What to do if you're married to a jerk, Mrs. Anderson addresses all
of these forms of abuse, though not in the manner you might expect from the wife of someone who is
ostensibly a Christian pastor. As we have seen, she does advise those who are in physical danger of life
and limb to remove themselves and their children from the abuser. And again, this is sound advice. But
it is the end of her sound advice, because when she addresses the other forms of abuse, she suddenly
switches gears and rather than blame the abuser for their intentionally abusive behavior, she blames the
victim, the person receiving the abuse.
In her video, Mrs. Anderson says, “The short answer of what to do if you’re married to a jerk, take a
long hard look in the mirror, because chances are you are the problem. … Chances are, if you are
married to a jerk, the problem is you.”
If that isn’t enough of a slap in the face to the victims of spousal abuse, Mrs. Anderson goes on to say,
“If you are married to a jerk, look in the mirror, because no good wife thinks, ‘I’m married to a jerk.’
Only a haughty, prideful, arrogant person who has the wrong feelings in their heart, and who does not
know how to be a godly Christian would even think that. What if a child said, ‘Well, what do you do if
your parent is a jerk?’ You would think, well it sounds like you have the wrong attitude toward your
parents. ’Cause she [the victim] could have phrased it any which way, you know, she could have said,
‘I’m struggling in my marriage, my husband is withdrawn from me,’ but no, she decided to phrase it
the way she did. If your husband is withdrawn from you it might be because you’re driving him to the
corner of the housetop.”
Her video is based primarily on a woman who wrote to her asking for help. A woman who was married
to an abusive man. A man whom she referred to as a jerk. The woman tells Mrs. Anderson that she and
others have been trying to get her husband into counseling, and although he is now going, he does not
cooperate with the counseling. This is typical behavior for an abuser once their abuse is made public. In
order to “save face” and attempt to make their victim appear as if they are “making it all up,” they will
go to counseling, but it only for appearances as they do not cooperate with what the counselor asks of
them.
Mrs. Anderson responds by not only telling this woman that she is to blame for her husbands abusive
behavior, but that she does not have to be a victim. That she is one by choice. Mrs. Anderson says all
the woman has to do, all any woman has to do when they are involved in an abusive relationship that
isn’t physically abusive, is understand that they have the power to influence their husbands by simply
submitting. Submit to the abuser and just do what he says. Mrs. Anderson says that when a husband is
abusive (again abusive though not physically so), it is usually the wife’s fault because she is not being
the kind of wife her husband wants, and is therefore in rebellion against his authority, and her answer is
to submit to the abuser.12 To boil down her advice to victims of emotional abuse, psychological abuse,
sexual abuse, and economic abuse to a single line, it would be, “just suck it up buttercup because it’s all
your fault anyway.” Lovely.
Many of those viewing Mrs. Anderson’s video are apparently so enamored with Mrs. Anderson, or her
husband, or both, and apparently believe they can do no wrong, and can say no wrong. They speak
glowingly of Mrs. Anderson’s advice to submit to an abusive bully spouse. One woman commented on
this video, “That's something that has changed my way of seeing life and problems: i try to be the
culprit (guilty party) because, then, the solution is on my hands! How liberating it is and how powerful
makes you feel!!” Another person wrote, “Beautiful advice! Thank you so much for this. It was truly
inspiring to me.”13 One has to wonder what flavor the Anderson Kool-Aid is that they drank.
While her video was live streamed to YouTube in July 2019, it is really nothing more than the video
version of a blog post she wrote in January 2011, similarly titled, “So You’re Married To A Jerk.” In
this blog article, Mrs. Anderson writes, “Chances are that the ‘victim’ in this situation made their own
bed. … my personal observation has been that those who complain about their spouses...or think all the
time what a jerk he is, maybe are not a pleasant person to be around themselves. Maybe it’s them who
is the problem? Just hypothetically, let’s assume that a sweet, godly lady marries a nice godly guy.
After they are married, completely out of the blue, he changes personalities and turns out to be a
complete jerk. What should she do? Does she have any ‘recourse’?...The only biblical recourse for a
horrible marriage, or any marriage for that matter, is death. If your husband is an abusive, mean,
hateful, fill-in-the-blank jerk in spite of you doing your best as a wife, God can kill him whenever He
wants to. If he is still alive, God must still want you to be married to him. ...If nothing else, it will be a
great lesson for the kids, who hopefully will grow up and make wiser and more careful choices
regarding their future spouse...”14
If this isn’t an approval, and even encouragement, of spousal abuse and violence in the home, then
nothing is.
Another example of violence and hatred in the home can be seen in a video produced by Jonathan
Guzman, who apparently attends Stedfast Baptist Church in Fort Worth, Texas. Although the church is
pastored by Steven Anderson protégé Jonathan Shelley who presents sermon after sermon filled with
hatred and violence, the fact that Jonathan Guzman’s sermon was allowed and even approved of (as
demonstrated by the number of hearty “amen!” and “preach it!” comments from the congregation), is
evidence that the hatred and violence inherent within the New IFB is not confined to Steven Anderson’s
church or his home.
Jonathan Guzman is a child. While his actual age is unknown, based on his September 2018 sermon
video, he appears to be between the ages of 10 and 13. Just a child. In his sermon, young Guzman
screams and rants and pounds the pulpit like any other New IFB preacher, so that is almost expected.
But what he says in his eight minute “sermon” is very disturbing. He literally screams that “all
scientists are sodomites” and “reprobates.”15
As noted in this work, it is a common, and almost core doctrine of the New IFB, that all homosexuals
(whom they almost exclusively refer to as sodomites) are reprobate – meaning they are beyond any
hope of salvation; and, that all homosexuals are to be put to death. They deserve death, they should be
put to death, and the world would be a better and safer place as soon as they all die. This is standard
New IFB rhetoric.
But apply that rhetoric to Jonathan Guzman’s “sermon,” which it almost certainly does apply given the
New IFB influence on Guzman, and you begin to see the disturbing message that this young child is
screaming from the pulpit: “All scientists are beyond the hope of salvation, and should be put to death.”
This is a call, from a child, to return to the dark ages; and, it completely ignores the scientific
contributions made by Christians, and the scientific aspects of Scripture itself.
That Jonathan Guzman even developed this mentality cannot be attributed solely to his attendance in a
New IFB church, or even his exposure to Steven Anderson and Jonathan Shelley. It must either come
from his home, or at the very least is encouraged by his parents who have allowed him to both preach
this “sermon” and post it to YouTube.
Welcome to the next generation of hate and violence.
Another of Steven Anderson’s protégés, the newly ordained pastor Bruce Mejia has tried his best to
excuse all the violent hatred in the New IFB, by placing the blame on God. He teaches that all of the
violent hatred in the New IFB is justified because, as he puts it, God hates. So if God hates, then so can
they. In his video, “Hell is Proof that God Hates” (which is a clip from his sermon “Waging War
Against the Sodomites” – a typical New IFB rant), Mejia says,
“Now look. When is a time, when is it a time to love? At our church it’s Sunday afternoon. It’s on
Thursdays, it’s on Saturdays. What is that? Preaching the gospel. Spend a good amount of hours out
there, you know, talking about the love of God. Look, the Bible tells us, ‘Do not I hate them, O LORD,
that hate thee, and-that-I-gree* with those that rise up against thee, I hate them with perfect hatred. I
count them mine enemies.’ Now don’t miss this. The Bible tells us here that David – this is a very bold
statement – he hates them with perfect hatred. What does perfect mean in the Bible? It means complete.
“Now look. I’ve known preachers of times past, they hated some things. But their hatred was
incomplete. You know why? Because we’re supposed to hate sin, amen? Supposed to hate sin. We’re
supposed to hate what sin does to people. But you know what? A perfect hatred also includes hating
those who hate the Lord. [several in the crowd say, “that’s right!”] And what David’s basically saying
here is, he has a complete mature hatred! He hates sin. He hates evil. He hates those who hate the Lord.
‘[you say] I don’t believe God hates.’ Have you heard of hell? [most of the crowd says yeah, yeah, and
chuckle] You think it’s like just all roses and daisies, it’s just, the heater’s turned on [crowd laughs]. It’s
hell [more laughing and people saying “yeah”].
“We need to recognize and stop, you know, having this weird perception that God is only love but He’s
no hate. Hey, God is love and heaven is the expression of that. Everlasting life is the expression of that.
Jesus Christ coming to die for us is the expression of that. But you know what? God also hates! Hell’s
the proof! [crowd raises its voice with “Yeah” and “That’s right!”] God also hates! Damnation is proof!
[Crowd gives its agreement] The Bible says in Psalm 97, verse 10, ‘Ye that love the Lord hate evil. He
preserveth the souls of th..the saints, He delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.’ Romans 12:9
says ‘let love be without dissimulation! Abhor that which is evil, cleave to that which is good.’ You
know what this is telling us? That a hypocritical love is a love that claims that it don’t, that they don’t
hate. That’s what that’s saying.
“You know, I forgot what preacher said, he’s like, ‘Oh, you can’t say that you love everyone, if you
love everyone, if you said you love everyone, you love nobody [crowd shares its agreement with, yeah,
yeah, that’s right] and that’s fact [crowd: that’s right]. Because in order to love someone, there has to be
an equal amount of hatred for those who would even desire to harm them.”16
[*One would think a preacher, a so-called “evangelist” (and recently ordained pastor) such as Bruce
Mejia, would not slur his words when reciting God’s word. He should have said, “and am not I grieved
with those that rise up against thee?” instead of “and-that-I-gree* with those that rise up against thee.”]
But are we to hate others with “a perfect hatred,” a “mature hatred,” as Bruce Mejia claims? Perhaps
the best person to answer this question is our Lord Jesus Christ, who said, “Ye have heard that it hath
been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies,
bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you,
and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his
sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.” (Matthew 5:43-
45)
This was not a new teaching that Jesus was introducing here in His Sermon on the Mount, but rather a
reiteration of God’s law as found in Leviticus 19:18: “Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge
against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.”
“Thou shalt”. Not a suggestion, but rather a command. “Love thy neighbour” which means not just the
person living next door, but fellow citizens, other people.
And Jesus again reiterated this when He gave what the Bible calls the two greatest commandments:
“Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy
God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great
commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these
two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.” (Matthew 22:36-40)
Again, “Thou shalt” demonstrates that this is not simply a suggestion, but rather it is a commandment.
“Love thy neighbour.” The word here is, plēsion, which means any other person. It is the same word
used in the Apostle Paul’s exposition of Jesus’ teaching in Matthew 22:36-40. Paul writes, “Owe no
man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou
shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying,
namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore
love is the fulfilling of the law.” (Romans 13:8-10)
Again, the word used here is plésion (πλησίον), and refers not simply to someone living in the house
next door, but as Thayer’s Greek Lexicon points out, “any other person, … thy fellow-man, thy
neighbor, … according to the teaching of Christ, any other man irrespective of race or religion with
whom we live or whom we chance to meet (which idea is clearly brought out in the parable Luke
10:25-37).”17
As with many passages of Scripture, the New IFB gets biblical hate all wrong. They simply don’t
understand it; or, don’t want to understand it. They prefer their own understanding, their own definition
of biblical hate because they can apply it to their favorite past time which seems to be hating others.
Unfortunately, they are using the Bible, or at least their faulty understanding of the Bible, to justify
their sinful hatred. And sin is exactly what it is, for it is in direct contradiction to God’s repeated
command to love their fellow human beings.
Biblical hatred is not an expression of emotion such as with the New IFB, but rather it is to count
someone as an enemy and show them disfavor. This is not to say you don’t help them if they need help,
nor is it to say you should not love them. You simply do not love them as you love someone close to
you such as a family member or a friend or a brother or sister in the Lord. You favor them with
fellowship, but you do not show that kind of favor with an enemy, and that is what biblical hatred is.
And this is what Psalm 139:21-22 teaches:
“Do I not hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? And am I not grieved with those that rise up against
thee? I hate them with a perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.”
Hating with a perfect hatred does not mean hating with a complete hatred as Bruce Mejia teaches; it
means hating with the same kind of hatred that God has (“Do I not hate them, O LORD, that hate
thee?). And how does God “hate” them that hate Him? He counts them as His enemies, and that is what
the Psalmist clearly states. Those that hate God are those who are at enmity with Him, and those that
hate God are also at enmity with God’s children. This is what the Psalmist is saying in Psalm 139:21-
22. Those who treat God as an enemy will soon learn that God will treat them as an enemy as well.
It is disfavor that God exhibits when Scripture teaches that God “hates” someone. It means He is at
odds with them, they are His enemy, and He does not show them any favor. “Jacob have I loved, but
Esau I have hated” (Romans 9:13). This does not mean that God harbored some emotional dislike for
Esau, but rather that Esau was His enemy. Just as Esau still received general blessings such as good
weather, good crops, etc.; those whom God counts as an enemy, those He disfavors, God does not favor
them with fellowship and the love He has for His children. God does not rant and rail against
homosexuals, and Mormons, and Calvinists, and Jeff Durbin, and James White, and Adam Fannin, and
scientists calling them all reprobate that He hopes they all get brain cancer and die slow horrible deaths.
Yet that is what Steven Anderson and his New IFB do, and they try to justify their hatred by saying
God hates they way they do, that they are simply reflecting God’s hatred, that they are hating the way
God hates. No. No they are not. They are hating more the way Satan hates, than the way God hates, as
Scripture clearly teaches. They are in sin with their hatred. Grossly immoral sin. They are living in
open rebellion against God, in direct disobedience to God. They are hating the way the world hates.
They are being just exactly like the world in this regard, and Scripture speaks about that as well. James
4:4 states, “Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with
God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.” And the New IFB, by
acting like the world, is living in enmity with God, and is, therefore, an enemy of God.
Now let’s review that CABQ (Christian Attitude & Behavior Quotient) which we examined at the
beginning of this section, and determine just were Steven Anderson and his New IFB rate. Remember
this is based on Romans 12:14-21, which states,
“14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not. 15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and
weep with them that weep. 16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but
condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits. 17 Recompense to no man evil for
evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live
peaceably with all men. 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for
it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed
him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21 Be not
overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.”
Does Steven Anderson, or anyone else in the New IFB exhibit these God-commanded attitudes and
behaviors? Romans 12:14-21 can be broken down into thirteen questions we can call the “Christian
Attitude and Behavior Quotient” test. Of course, this particular test is based only on this particular
passage. If we were to employ all of Scripture the test would be significantly longer, and likely biased
against Anderson and his New IFB. Therefore, we will stick with this “abbreviated” version. A quotient
is a degree or amount of a specified quality or characteristic. So the higher the score on this “CABQ”
test, the more Christian, or Christlike, the subject is.
1. Do they bless those who persecute them?
2. Do they refrain from cursing those who persecute them?
3. Do they rejoice with those who rejoice and weep with those who weep?
4. Are they impartial and of the same mind toward one another?
5. Do they avoid self-seeking, prideful attitudes?
6. Do they associate with the humble?
7. Are they wise in their own conceits, thinking themselves better or more spiritual or more righteous
than others who profess Christ?
8. Are they vindictive and vengeful, repaying evil with evil?
9. Are they honest and respectful, providing these things to ALL men?
10. Do they live peaceably with ALL men?
11. Are they content to trust the Lord to avenge any and all wrongdoing done to them?
12. Do they care for the physical and spiritual needs of their enemies?
13. Do they overcome evil with good?
To score this Christian Attitude and Behavior Quotient, or CABQ test, each correct answer is awarded
one point, and each incorrect answer is awarded one negative point. Therefore, the best possible score
is 13 (indicating the most Christlike based on this passage), and the worst possible score is 13
(indicating the least Christlike based on this passage). For example, if you are able to answer twelve
questions correctly, you would have a score of 12; but by answering one question incorrectly, you
would deduct one point, leaving you with a score of 11. If you answer ten questions correctly you
would have a score of 10; but, answering the remaining three questions incorrectly means you deduct
three points, leaving you with a score of 7. Christians should be able to answer yes to all of these
questions except for numbers 7 and 8, which should be answered no. Granted, no one is perfect, and
each Christian will be at a different level of maturity. Therefore, having even a low CABQ of 1 or 2
might indicate a relatively low level of Christian maturity, while a CABQ of 12 or 13 might indicate a
very high level of Christian maturity. It is clear, that based on Romans 12:14-21, Steven Anderson and
his New IFB would score at about -13. The worst possible score. This is not a personal determination
alone, but a comparison of the teachings and behaviors of Anderson and the New IFB.
Other passages which can be used to compare Steven Anderson and his New IFB to Scripture, which
also reveal just how far removed the New IFB actually is from God and the Bible, are: Proverbs 25:21;
Philippians 2:14-15; Ephesians 4:29; Galatians 5:16-21; Galatians 5:22-23; 1 John 3:7-10; 1 John 4:21;
Luke 10:25-37; Luke 6:28; Romans 8:7-8; Proverbs 17:5; Psalms 1:1; 1 Corinthians 5:11,13; 1 Peter
3:8-12; Romans 1:28-32; Romans 14:1.
Sources:
1. Christian Men Should Love to Fight
Elliott Ray
A clip from the sermon, "What a Time to be Alive", preached by brother Richard Miller at Faithful
Word Baptist Church on the night of 07-17-16.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hl3Da6n-a4
2. Richard Miller Pastor Ordination (Faithful Word Baptist Church)
Wendy Davis
Sunday Night October the 16th of 2016 Richard Miller is officially ordained as a pastor and will be
pastoring in Nashville Tennessee and his First Service will be a week from today. We wish you the best
and will keep you in our prayers and most definitely plan on a visit. God Bless you Brother.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76XT0GT32v4
3. We Need More Soul-winning Churches
By Steven Anderson, Wednesday, November 9, 2016
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2016/11/we-need-more-soul-winning-churches.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20190930022959/http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2016/11/we-need-
more-soul-winning-churches.html
In April 2017, Anderson wrote a blog article for his online blog titled, Don't Quit the Ministry [by
Steven Anderson, Friday, April 21, 2017, http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2017/04/dont-quit-
ministry.html, accessed 29 September 2019, archived at: https://web.archive.org/web/20190930023110/
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2017/04/dont-quit-ministry.html] which he clearly aimed at Richard
Miller. In the article Anderson wrote, “A lot of guys go out and start a church and then quit, and it’s a
tragedy because we need more churches. If you are a young man who wants to become a pastor or
missionary, you need to decide right now that you are going to finish what you start. When I started
Faithful Word Baptist Church, it was hard. I had to knock a lot of doors to get visitors, and most of
them didn’t stick.” In an ironic twist, an anonymous commentor wrote, “It was sad to see what
happened with Soulwinning Baptist Nashville. ...Richard Miller preached some excellent sermons even
back at FWBC.... The problem that I saw throughout all his sermons, which I now believe to be a
pointer to what happened in Nashville, is that he never did lift up his voice like a trumpet. He stuck out
like a clarinet between Pastor Romero's piercing bugle and Pastor Manly's booming tuba. I'm not
knocking Richard as a Christian, but I just think his voice style pointed to his ability (perhaps not his
willingness) to stand up and fight the good fight. I have more confidence in Brother Tyler's chances of
success in Jacksonville because he does cry out loud indeed.” As we have seen in this series, both Tyler
Baker and Donnie Romero failed in their ministries. And, like Richard Miller, both were hand picked
and ordained and sent out by Steven Anderson.
4. Honour They Father and Thy Mother
Published January 20, 2019
https://youtu.be/5KWOXWg7UYo
Parents Are Commanded By God to Spank Their Children
Stedfast Baptist Church [Jonathan Shelley]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3vBKX-8vao
Rebellious Teenagers Are Worthy of Death
5. Shepherding a Child's Heart Paperback, by Tedd Tripp (Author), Published by Shepherd Press
(1995)
6. God's Wisdom in Proverbs by Dan Phillips Published by Kress Biblical Resources (September 15,
2011)
7. “Discipline’s Cleansing Rod” by R.C. Sproul, First published in Tabletalk Magazine, an outreach of
Ligonier. For permissions, view our Copyright Policy.
https://www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/disciplines-cleansing-rod/
8. Radical Unschooling
By Zsuzsanna Anderson, Tuesday, December 19, 2017
http://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2017/12/radical-unschooling.html
9. ARE THEY ALL YOUR BULLIES Pastor Steven Anderson Raising Bullies
Tylah Baker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnu70-FWeHU&feature=youtu.be
10. Video: Mothering Moment - What to do if you're married to a jerk, by Zsuzsanna Anderson,
Streamed live on Jul 19, 2019, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5BEgyE3uug, accessed 29
September 2019
11. Article: 5 types of abuse, Domestic Violence FAQ, Published April 9, 2015, Updated April 16, 2015,
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/features/domestic-violence/2015/04/09/5-types-of-abuse-
domestic-violence-faq/25520519/, contains information from the National Domestic Violence Hotline,
the National Center for Victims of Crime, and WomensLaw.org. Accessed 29 September 2019
12. Video: Mothering Moment - What to do if you're married to a jerk, by Zsuzsanna Anderson,
Streamed live on Jul 19, 2019, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5BEgyE3uug, accessed 29
September 2019
13. Ibid comments section
14. Article: So you're married to a jerk…, by Zsuzusanna Anderson, January 18, 2011,
https://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2011/01/so-youre-married-to-jerk.html, accessed 29
September 2019
15. Science Falsely so Called Bro Jonathan Jr
Sep 12, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnzSqmVUywY
"Science Falsely So Called" 10 min Sermon by Jonathan Guzman
Guzman 1611
Oct 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQlE2t_IIjU
To his credit, at least somewhat, young Guzman makes an attempt to soften his stance by stating in the
video description, “I miss spoke [sic] when I said, ‘All these scientists are sodomites.’ But of course
most are, but there are plenty of Bible believing scientists.”
16. Hell is proof God hates
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NREhKg0VlhY
This is an excerpt from “Waging War Against The Sodomites”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kma7wIP81ZI
17. Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament by Joseph Henry Thayer, American Book
Company, 1889, pp 518-519
Antisemitism in the New IFB

Of course, when a person or a group harbors as much hatred as the New IFB does, that hatred is bound
to creep into every aspect of its life. As we have noted, it can be found in the New IFB “reprobate
doctrine;” it’s interactions with those who disagree with or criticize New IFB doctrine and leaders and
those who have left the New IFB; the numerous “assault videos” they post on YouTube; and, New IFB
teaching on parenting and couples. In each of these instances the hatred inherent in the New IFB is on
full display. Another area where the New IFB demonstrates its extreme hatred is Antisemitism, the
hatred of Jews.
Antisemitism is defined as hostility, prejudice, bigotry and racism directed against Jewish people. It has
an evil twin known as Anti-Zionism, which is defined as opposition to the establishment or support of
the state of Israel, particularly in an area of the Middle East roughly corresponding to (although
significantly smaller than) the historical land of Israel, which is currently home to Jews, Muslims,
Christians, Druze, Samaritans, Baha’i’s, and Atheists.
In the Middle Ages and up into the nineteenth century, Antisemitism was widespread. Jews were
segregated and they were prohibited from holding certain jobs and from owning land. In Tsarist Russia,
anti-Jewish laws remained in force into the early part of the twentieth century. On February 24, 1920,
Adolph Hitler formed The National Socialist German Workers' Party, or Nazi Party, in Munich,
Germany. This was the beginning of a resurgence of Antisemitism in Europe that eventually resulted in
the deaths of six million Jews, as well as millions of non-Jews.
In Hitler’s book, Mein Kampf, written in 1924, he claimed he became an anti-Semite during his time in
Vienna, Austra (1908-1913) when he was working as a painter. Whether this is true or not is a matter of
speculation, but it does demonstrate that his Antisemitism was in full bloom by at least 1913. In
addition to Mein Kampf, the Nazis also used a book published in Russia in 1903 titled, Protocols of the
Elders of Zion, to justify their Antisemitism. Although the book was debunked in 1938 as an
antisemitic forgery, all that mattered to the Nazis was that it supported their already long held
antisemitic hatred.
By 1929, Joseph Stalin had become the leader of Soviet Russia, having exiled any and all who might
pose adversarial to him. And, while in 1931, he addressed the issue of Antisemitism by saying it was
wrong and abhorrent and so forth, the fact of the matter was that he was an avowed antisemite who
hated Jews. The year before coming to supreme power, he tried to create a Soviet version of Israel in
Siberia where all Soviet Jews could be removed from Soviet society and contained in a single localized
space. Not unlike the Nazi ghettos, but on a much larger scale.
By 1936-37, Stalin had begun what has become known as the “Great Purge,” where thousands of
people found themselves suddenly perceived as enemies of the state and under a death sentence. There
were many Jews who lost their lives during this time. It was later, however, after World War II, in 1948,
when two million loyal Soviet Jews suddenly found themselves declared to be enemies of the state, and
Stalin’s reign of Antisemitic terror began in earnest. While we may never know exactly how many Jews
Stalin killed, to say it is in the millions is likely an understatement.1
This is the antisemitic heritage that Steven Anderson and his New IFB has built on, and built on it they
have. This is evidenced by the litany of antisemitic videos posted to YouTube by the New IFB. One
really need look no further than Anderson’s videos, “How to Hate A Jew” (now removed from YouTube
due to its hate content),2 “The Jews and Their Lies,”3 “The Jews Are Not the Chosen People”4, and his
video, “Differences Between Old IFB and New IFB” in which Anderson explains that the Old IFB is
Zionist, Pro-Israel and Pro-Jew; the New IFB is anti-Zionist/Zionism, anti-Israel, and anti-Jewish
(which is the same thing as being anti-Semitic), they’re against the state of Israel, against the religion
of Judaism. He states that the New IFB believes in “Replacement Theology, or Covenant Theology” he
says, “We do not believe the Jews are God’s chosen people, we believe that Christians are God’s
chosen people. That basically a spiritual nation made up of Christians has replaced the physical nation
made up of the Israelites. ‘The kingdom of God shall be taken from you and given to a nation bringing
forth fruits thereof,’ so, you know, they’ve been replaced. Or, you could look at it as we were graft in
and they were broken off as Romans 11 teaches. But, either way you look at it, at the end of the day,
you know, Christians in the New Testament replace Old Testament nation of Israel.”5
Paul Wittenberger, the New IFB filmmaker responsible for producing numerous New IFB
“documentaries” alongside his pastor, Steven Anderson, runs the website, Framing the World and its
accompanying online store. A check of Wittenberger’s website and online store reveals several
antisemitic, Nazi-sympathetic related books advertised and for sale.6
These include:
DNA Science and the Jewish Bloodline by Texe Marrs and published by Marrs’ publishing company,
RiverCrest Publishing7, in which noted antisemite Texe Marrs promotes what has become known as
the “Khazarian Hypothesis” or the “Khazarian Myth” which states that the Jews living in Israel since
1948 are not actually Jewish at all, but rather are descendants of the Khazars, a Turk/Mongol people
from the Caucasus region (an area covering modern day Southern Russia, Georgia, Armenia, and
Azerbaijan), thus concluding the Jews are not really Jews and have no connection whatsoever to
historical Israel and no legitimate claim to the land of Israel. Marrs’ book is merely a regurgitation of a
long refuted myth8.
The Synagogue of Satan: The Secret History of Jewish World Domination by Andrew Carrington
Hitchcock9. Texe Marrs published this book as well as writing the foreword. The author, Andrew
Hitchcock is a noted holocaust denier and antisemite who claims the Jews are actually priests of
Lucifer. Hitchcock insists Jews are responsible for orchestrating a “White Genocide,” and creating laws
to protect their fabricated myth of a Jewish holocaust at the hands of Adolph Hitler and the Nazi party.
In this book, Hitchcock promotes his beliefs that the Jews have established an international
conspiratorial Cabal that is “responsible for virtually all wars, revolutions, financial debacles and social
upheavals”10. Hitchcock claims the Jews established groups such as the Bilderbergers, the Freemasons,
and the Council of Foreign Relations in order to further their goal of total global domination and the
deaths of billions of White people11.
In his book, Hitchcock claims that the Jews own “almost every major book publishing firm in the
world”12; that they control all of America money through their central bank13; that they control the
world’s gold markets14; that they are behind the funding of radical Islamic terror groups15; that they
are influencing the United States Congress to endorse Talmudic laws that will call for the death by
beheading of all Christians16; and that, among numerous other fanciful conspiracies, the Jews
engineered both the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, and the September 11, 2001 al-Qaeda
attacks on the World Trade Center Towers, the Pentagon, and what was likely to be either the White
House or the Capitol17.
The Myth of the Six Million: An Examination of the Nazi Extermination Plot by David Hoggan18. This
book is another holocaust denial book, this one published by Willis Carto. Carto is best known for his
antisemitic conspiracy theories and holocaust denial. Hoggan also promotes the idea that rather than
fighting against the Nazi’s in World War II, the United States should have allied with them. Apparently
Mr. Hoggan believes America should have assisted Hitler in his quest for world domination and the
institution of occult paganism.
AUSCHWITZ: The Final Count by Vivian Bird (Editor).19 This small book contains several holocaust
denial essays, including one by Willis Carto (see above). This is not surprising since Carto published
this work through his The Barnes Review magazine. “Death books” (bound ledgers containing records
of those who died) were kept at Auschwitz during the years 1940 to 1945; but, the death book for the
years 1940, 1941, most of 1943, and all of 1944-1945 are missing. Therefore, no one really knows
exactly how many people died at Auschwitz. Historians, however, estimate that between 1940 and 1945
as many as 1.1 million people were killed or otherwise died at the Nazi concentration camp. Bird, on
the other hand, believes the number is far lower at just over 70,000.20
The Bad War: The Truth Never Taught About World War II by Jeff Rense and Mike King21. This self-
published book begins with the same premise as David Hoggan (see above) that the United States was
wrong to fight against the Nazi’s in World War II, and should have allied with them. Conspiracy
theorists Rense and King take things a step further in this book, by putting forth their beliefs that the
Japanese did not rape Nanking, that the war was a prelude to the establishment of a New World Order,
and, of course, that the Jews had their hands in everything from the White House to world banking, and
more all in their pursuit for global domination22.
Wittenberger’s website also advertises The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, one of the most antisemitic
books ever written. Written in 1903 in Russia, translated into multiple languages and distributed
throughout the world (auto manufacturing king Henry Ford paid to have half a million copies printed
and sent throughout the United States), the book is ostensibly the minutes of a meeting of Jewish
leaders that supposedly took place in the 19th century. According to the book, these Jewish leaders
discussed their plans for global domination through the manipulation of the press, the economy, and the
morals of the Gentiles. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion has been used for the past century by
antisemites – including the Nazi’s, to support and promote their hatred for the Jewish people.
The Times of London exposed the book as a fraud in 1921, and by 1938 it had been completely
debunked. It still remains, however, a popular work among antisemites.23
Are you beginning to see a pattern here? And it isn’t just Paul Wittenberger. As already noted,
antisemitism is rampant in the New IFB. In fact, Wittenberger organized an Anti-Jewish, Anti-Israel
“Conference” he called the “Marching to Zion” conference for October 2018 in celebration of both the
New IFB hatred of the Jewish people, and the release of his “documentary” film of the same name.24
The New IFB Marching to Zion Conference was held at Stronghold Baptist Church (David Berzins –
Pastor), a New IFB church in Atlanta, Georgia, on October 11-13, 2018.25
The conference schedule was to be26:
Day One:
Steven Anderson: “The Fake State of Israel”
Aaron Thompson: “Salvation Equality to the Jew & the Goyim Too”
Donnie Romero: “Replacement Theology”
Grayson Fritts: “Circumcision”
Donnie Romero: “Avoid Genealogies”
Joe Major: “Hollywood, Porn, and Human Trafficking (and the Jews)”
Day Two:
Patrick Boyle: “The Gospel of John Ripping on Jews”
Jonathan Shelley: “Stealing Christ’s Land”
Bruce Mejia: “The Allegory of the Two Sons (Galatians 4)”
Tommy McMurtry: “A Rebuke to Baptist Missions to Israel”
Steven Anderson: “Romans Chapter 11 (and the Jews)”
Day Three:
Discussion with Tommy McMurtry and Joe Major, “The True Temple Mount Location”
Michael Johnson: “The Promises to Israel Were Conditional”
Joe Major: “The Evils of Judaism the Religion”
Adam Fannin: “The Coming Jewish Antichrist”
Dave Berzins: “The Jews Don’t Follow the Torah They Follow the Talmud”
Every message a message of hate. At one point, the conference was abruptly canceled by the ticket
sales venue, who suddenly announced the conference canceled and they promptly refunded the ticket
price to people who had purchased tickets to the conference. No reason was ever given publicly, but it
is likely the sales venue (Event Brite) upon realizing the nature of the conference decided they did not
want to be associated with antisemitic hate. When clicking on the link provided by Paul Wittenberger
and Steven Anderson to the Event Brite website to purchase conference tickets (www.eventbrite.com/e/
marching-to-zion-conference-tickets-47881258132), you are taken to the Event Brite website, but to an
error page saying “this page is not available”
This caused the New IFB to go into crisis management / damage control mode, and they were soon
putting out videos announcing the conference had not been canceled, and setting up conference
registration centers in a local park and a Kentucky Fried Chicken fast food restaurant27.
“Eventbrite has shut down our ability to sign people up for the Marching to Zion Conference for hate
speech” Steven Anderson wrote to his followers. “They have cancelled our account and have refunded
everyone there tickets. However, that's not going to stop this event. We are asking for people to re-sign
up for the event and re-purchase your tickets at Framingtheworld.com. Just follow this link below and
purchase a ticket for each person attending the event. So sorry for this inconvenience.” Not wanting to
be left out, Jonathan Shelley quickly followed suit and wrote, “#Eventbrite #Cancelled the Marching to
Zion #Conference like a bunch of hypocrites. Never use this company!”28
New IFB pastor Michael Johnson of Temple Baptist Church was also “Johnny-on-the-Spot” and put out
his own video:
Within weeks after the conference had ended, Bruce Mejia of the then Faithful Word Baptist Church –
LA continued the antisemitic rhetoric with a sermon he titled, “Misinterpreted & Out Of Context
Scriptures”. In it he said,
“Here’s another verse that people use out of context, Psalm 122, in verse number 6, ‘Pray for the peace
of Jerusalem! They shall prosper that love thee.’ Don’t you feel all warm and fuzzy inside? People
who..these Zionist Christians, ‘Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.’ Let’s keep reading (chuckles), ’cause
when we’re talking about misinterpreted Scriptures and things that are taken out of context. Verse 7,
‘Peace be within thy walls, and prosperity within thy houses, FOR MY BRETHREN and companions
sake, I will now say, peace be within thee.’ Who’s they? Who they even talking about? Somebody’s
saved brethren! ’Cause he’s saved!
“Now, people, they get all offended at this when we’re like, ‘You know that the Jews are the sons of the
devil!’ and all these things. They get so bent out of shape when we say things like that, but we’re just
quoting the Lord Jesus Christ.” But is he actually quoting the Lord Jesus Christ as he claims? No, he
isn’t. He is, in fact, lying from the pulpit. One need only to continue listening to see this as he goes on
to quote Elijah, David, and Jeremiah, but not Jesus. He says, “Look, if it’s wrong to pray against Israel
then you need to talk to Elijah. ‘Who maketh intercessions against Israel.’ You need to talk to David in
Psalm 69 where he says, ‘May..Let them not be written with the righteous. Let their names be blotted
out of the Book of Life.’ Well you say, ‘Oh no, but we need to pray for the land! You know, the lamb!’
Well then you need to talk to Jeremiah when God told him, ‘Pray not for this people!’ He says in
Jeremiah 6:17, uh, 7:16, ‘Therefore, pray not for this people. Neither lift up a cry or a prayer for them.
Neither make intercession to me for I will not hear thee.’”29
And please notice that when he quotes these Old Testament prophets and King David, he is making
reference not to instances where God has not permanently abandoned Israel, but only where He is
punishing Israel for their sin. Pastor Mejia recognizes this and states, “So what has changed since then?
‘Well they’re God’s chosen people.’ No. They’re God’s chosen people in the Old Testament when
they’re obeying God and following the God of the Bible.” So even though Israel is God’s chosen
people – at this point in their history according to Mejia, he still condemns them all, as an entire nation,
saying they are not God’s people. He is not only lying (as shown in his own contradictory statements),
but he is intentionally obfuscating his lies by making a confusing eisegesis of Scripture!
Mejia goes on, “But when they decided to forsake God and serve Balaam,”30 Okay, wait a minute. Has
“Pastor” Mejia even read the Bible? Does he have any idea what happens in it? Israel never served
Balaam as he claims. Numbers chapters 22-24 describe Balak trying to get Balaam to curse Israel, but
instead Balaam blessed Israel. Four times! Later, he told Balak how to get Israel to fall into sin, which
they did, but never at any time does Scripture teach that Israel ever serve Balaam. Mejia does not know
what he is talking about. A condition common within the New IFB movement.
Mejia continues his thought by saying, “you know, take up the Star of Remphan, and the tabernacle of
Moloch, God says ‘don’t pray for them, they’re done.’”31 Again, this does not mean what Mejia
apparently thinks it means. He is referencing Acts 7:43, thinking it is referring to a New Testament
occurrence; but what he apparently does not realize is, that, Acts 7:43 is itself a reference to Amos
5:25-27, wherein Amos is prophesying about the then forth coming Babylonian exile was was
necessary as punishment for Israel taking up the worship of Moloch and either an Assyrian or Egyptian
(or both) celestial god which Amos 5:26 translates as Remphan. The point here is, however, that these
transgressions were forgiven and Israel was once again brought back as God’s chosen people.
Mejia continues, “‘Yeah, but we’re in the New Testament.’ Yeah, it’s even worse for them in the New
Testament. It’s even worse! They’re treasuring up wrath unto themselves! Okay. And look, God is
saying, ‘I’m not hearing you.’” Again Mejia confuses the Old Testament turning away of God from
Israel, with the New Testament where He does no such thing. He goes on, “So these guys that want to
have prayer meetings and stuff like that for Israel and Jerusalem, you know, you’re just wasting your
breath. Go..You accomplish more gossiping (laughs), than praying for Israel. ’Cause at least God will
hear gossip and punish you for it. He’ll actually take action. ‘Prayer for Israel? I don’t even know what
that guy..I’m not listening. I’m not gonna punish him, I’m not gonna reward him, I’m just not gonna
hear him.’ He says, ‘Don’t make intercessions for me.’ So nothing has changed, other than the fact that
we’re now God’s chosen people.”32
Here Mejia moves into what is known as “Replacement Theology” (also known as Supersessionism),
an unbiblical teaching related to the heresy of Marcionism (in that it removes the Jews as Marcion did,
and replaces them with the Church). The New IFB also mistakenly believes Replacement Theology is
simply another word for the Reformed doctrine of Covenant Theology33.
Mejia goes on to say in reference to Israel, “No, you guys, here’s the thing: if you are helping those
who hate the Lord, wrath is upon you, from before the Lord. If you want their good, and you want them
to prosper, then wrath is on you before the Lord. We want to make sure that we stay far clear, steer far
clear from helping any ungodly person that hates the Lord, and hates the Lord Jesus Christ.”34 Again,
this is a false teaching, based on antisemitic hatred, that claims Israel has long been abandoned by God
because it hates God. Nothing could be further from the truth, however. Yes, Judaism continues (so far)
to reject the Messiah, but that does not mean it/they hate God. It means they retain an Old Testament
understanding of God, and their eyes have not been opened en masse to the reality of the Triune nature
of God, and so they continue to reject Jesus. Again, at least so far.
The New IFB is not only blinded by its hatred for others, including the Jews, but it has also hardened
its heart to the truth of Scripture. Because of their self-imposed hardness of heart, the New IFB has
failed to understand God’s word, and, by extension, God Himself. They have failed to understand the
clear and explicit teaching of Scripture in Romans 11:26-27, which states:
“And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall
turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their
sins.”
Did you catch that? “All Israel shall be saved.” Not may be saved, not might be saved, not could be
saved, but will be saved. Furthermore, “There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer” – this is Jesus,
“and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob” (Israel). So this is not referring to a past occurrence, but
a future event. At some point in the future Jesus will turn Israel away from sin (ungodliness) and He
will save them. Nor is this a “may, might, could” happen occurrence, for God states very clearly that
the salvation of Israel, by Jesus, is His “covenant unto them” (verse 27). That Israel clearly appears in
the Book of Revelation (chapters 7,12,14,21) is further evidence of this New IFB fallacy.
While it should be clear that the New IFB is obviously antisemitic, and anti-Israel, they continue to
maintain that they are not. They continue to claim they are simply anti-Zionism. But when New IFB
pastor Michael Johnson posted a video where he referred to the “Marching to Zion Conference” as the
“Anti-Israel Conference” the proverbial cat was out of the bag. Although Johnson’s entire YouTube
channel has since been removed from the internet, screen shots continue exist in cyber space. They are
reproduced here.
Thumbnail for one of Michael Johnson’s anti-Israel videos:
Perhaps the most vocal proponent of antisemitism in the New IFB is Steven Anderson himself. Not
only does he teach replacement theology, not only does he teach that the Jews are not God’s chosen
people (both doctrines, as we have seen, are antithetical to Scripture), but he will justify his antisemitic
teachings by claiming they are not antisemitic because there is no such thing as antisemitic. He simply
states there are no such people as Jews anymore. They don’t exist. Therefore, since the Jews don’t
really exist, no one can be antisemitic.35 Don’t even try to understand his logic. You can’t because
there is no logic to his explanation. It is sort of like covering your head and thinking, no, believing, that
you cannot be seen because you cannot see anyone else. It ignores the evidence that is obvious to
everyone else (such as the rest of your body in full view, or the millions of Jews worldwide), simply
because doing so fits your personal viewpoint.
Anderson also takes antisemitism to the next obvious step, and he denies the nation of Israel. “It’s a
fraud” he exclaims, saying the Jews that returned to Israel weren’t really Jews. The Jews, he says, “they
didn’t come back!” Anderson claims the Jews who have been populating Israel since 1948 are not
Jews, but rather Ashkenazi’s who are white people from Caucasus region of Europe. This is more
commonly known as the “Khazar Myth” and it has been thoroughly debunked for many years. Of
course, as with most conspiracy theorists, Anderson believes the evidence debunking the Khazar
conspiracy is actually part of the conspiracy itself, believing it was the Jews who created the evidence
in order to protect themselves and discredit those whom the conspiracy theorists believe have debunked
the Jews. This is why normal people don’t often try to deal with conspiracy theorists. Their beliefs will
make your head spin!
Anderson explains, “Let me tell you something. The Jews – not only were they scattered as a
punishment in AD 70 and AD 135, they’ve been hated in every country that they’ve ever lived in for
the last 2,000 years. In fact, did you know that – I believe 51 countries throughout history have
expelled all the Jews. ‘Cause the one that you think of is 1492, when they were kicked out of Spain, but
they’ve been kicked out of England, kicked out of the Netherlands, kicked out of Germany, kicked out
of France, over and over again. You know, all throughout history. Even the Rabbis will tell you that
they’ve been hated and persecuted in every single country they’ve ever lived in for the last 2,000 years.
And people will say ‘Oh, that’s ‘cause they’re God’s people, that’s why they’re hated.’ No, Jesus Christ
said in Matthew 24, – and isn’t Matthew 24 the chapter where they try to say ‘oh, this is just to the
Jews?’ – In Matthew 24, Jesus Christ said this: ‘you shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake.’
Now have the Jews been hated for the name of Jesus? No, they’ve been hated because of being
bankers, and they’ve been hated for blaspheming Jesus, but they dead-sure have not been hated because
of Jesus’ name. They don’t claim the name of Jesus, okay. So why have they been persecuted, and
hated, and kicked out of every country, you know, over the course of the last few thousand years?
Simply this: They’re under the curse of God for rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ.”36
Did you catch what he did there? Using Matthew 24:9, “Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted,
and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.”, as evidence of the Jews
being under the curse of God. Of course, the problem with this becomes painfully clear when you read
the passage in context, especially from verse 3 down through verse 31 where it is clear that Jesus is
talking to His disciples, not the Jews. Jesus is teaching that it is Christians who will be persecuted for
his name’s sake. Not the Jews. But this is the only way Anderson and others in the New IFB are able to
make their unbiblical doctrines appear in Scripture: by twisting it until it is a mangled mess that no
longer resembles the inspired word of God.
And, if he is going to claim that the Jews are not the Jews, then the next obvious step is to deny the
holocaust, and that is precisely what Anderson does. In a video released by Anderson, but later
removed by YouTube because of its obvious racist and antisemitic tone, Anderson begins by
emphatically stating he is not a racist. That he loves Jews, and that he has personally pleaded with Jews
to come to Christ for salvation.37 But at the end of the day, those are just words, and when the actions
associated with those words are contrary to the extreme, then those actions speak far louder than the
words alone.
As we have already seen, Steven Anderson and his New IFB movement have gone out of their way to
vehemently express their beliefs that the Jews are evil, wicked, controlling, greedy lovers of money,
manipulative, are fraudulently occupying the nation of Israel, do not even really exist as a people, are
fraudulently claiming to be Jews, are engaged in a fraudulent religion, and more.38 If these awful
doctrines of the New IFB don’t qualify as racist and antisemitic, then nothing does. And, in addition to
the doctrines of devils being taught by Anderson and his New IFB, He and they also actively and
passionately deny the holocaust.
Anderson’s position is that the holocaust is a hoax, a scam, and a Jewish conspiracy. He claims that it is
illegal in fourteen countries39 (although this is demonstrably false40), a fact which Anderson claims is
proof of a Jewish conspiracy to promote the holocaust41.
He continues his case promoting the holocaust as a Jewish conspiracy by saying six million Jews were
not killed and subsequently cremated by the Nazi’s. Anderson claims the number is far too high, and he
claims it is a number decided on by the Jews long before Adolph Hitler was elected President of
Germany in 1934, perhaps even before his appointment to Chancellor in 1933. Anderson teaches the
commonly accepted number of six million Jews killed by the Nazi’s was a foreordained number chosen
by the Jews because, as he says, “the Jews love numbers. That’s what the kabbalah is all about.”
He goes on, “Think about all the things they [the Jews] fixate on that contain the number six. They
have a 6 pointed star, 6 million dead in the holocaust, the 6 days war, and how many supposed death
camps were there? Well, of course, there were 6. You know if you look through the list, Auschwitz,
Treblinka, Kulmhof, Sobibor, Majdanek and Belzec. So that number is before ordained”42 (there were
actually nine43, but hey, he was on a roll at this point). Anderson continues, “You can even find ten
newspaper articles from before Hitler was even elected where they’re talking about 6 million Jews are
gonna be killed, 6 million Jews, 6 million Jews. So that number is like a magic number to them. That 6
million figure. It’s not really based on real history and science. It’s just a number that was
foreordained.”44
He goes on, “So yeah, you can change the total at Auschwitz from 4 million to 1.5 million or down
below a million, but hey, it’s 6 million total and shut up and believe it because we said so. Now, let’s
talk about the number of people that were killed at Auschwitz.”
The problem with Anderson’s argument, however, is that he draws from only part of the research that
has been done regarding the number of Jews murdered by the Nazi’s during World War Two. He draws
on only those parts of the research that he can twist and reinterpret (or misinterpret) so he can shoe-
horn it into his revisionist presentation of history.
What we do know, and that Anderson conveniently omits, is that Dr. William Hoettl, an Austrian Nazi
Party member with the rank of SS-Sturmbannführer and the acting head of intelligence and counter
espionage for Hitler, and who said under oath on more than one occasion that the number was six
million. The first time was during the Nuremberg war trials in 1945, and the second time was during
the trial of Adolph Eichmann in 1961. Hoettl testified that Eichmann, who was responsible for the
logistics for the of the Jewish genocide, told him in August 1944 that the number of Jews who perished
at the hands of the Nazis was about six million – four million in the extermination camps and another
two million at the hands of the Einsatzgruppen (the Nazi death squads) who shot them, as well as those
who died via starvation, disease, and other forms of neglect while in Nazi custody45.
Yad Vashem, the World Holocaust Remembrance Center, reports there are several scholars who all
confirm the numbers are between five and six million. The center reports that these estimates are
derived through the examination of both pre and post World War II census data and population
estimates, as well as the detailed records kept by the Nazi’s recording deportations and gassings. The
Center itself maintains a list of documented Jewish holocaust victims. To date the list contains more
than four million names. The number is undoubtedly more considering the Russians have yet to release
all of their captured Nazi records46.
Raul Hilberg, the world’s preeminent scholar on the holocaust, wrote in his magnum opus, “The
Destruction of the European Jews” in 1961, that the number of Jews killed by the Nazi’s as part of their
“Final Solution to the Jewish Question” was 5.1 million. In the 1985 edition he provided a detailed
explanation of exactly how he arrived that that estimate47.
In 1975, award winning historian Lucy Schildkret Dawidowicz wrote in her book, “The War Against
the Jews,” that using pre and post war birth and death records she was able to narrow the figure to
5,933,90048.
During the mid to late 1990’s, preeminent German historian Wolfgang Benz reported his findings after
being allowed access to government archives in Eastern Europe, by which he was able to determine the
number of Jews killed by the Nazi’s was between 5.29 million and 6.2 million49.
When one notices the contrasting numbers it is easy to conclude that no one knows what they are
talking about. Which is similar to Steven Anderson’s conspiracy theory conclusion. However, it is
important to remember two things. The first is that researchers can only use the information they have
access to, and some researchers obviously have access to records and research material that other
researchers do not have access to. Equally important is that the six million figure was never meant to be
a precise number of victims. It has always been an estimate, a best guess based on available records and
expert testimony. As the recent expert research has shown (such as noted here), however, the number is
reasonably accurate, perhaps more so than many have ever realized.
Anderson then concludes his video with one of the strangest monologues possible. He begins with a
long drawn out explanation of how it was humanly impossible for the Nazi’s to have killed and
cremated the number of Jews that are claimed to have been killed and cremated. But he presents
inaccurate and incomplete information upon which he bases his claim. He claims most of those who
were cremated died of natural causes and were not killed by the Nazis. He claims to have done the
research, and he invites others to do their own research. However, his research is limited only to other
holocaust deniers (likely because holocaust deniers believe that all research done by non-holocaust
researchers is tainted by the Jews and their supporters); and he knows full well that most people are not
as committed to the facts and figures regarding the Holocaust as he and other holocaust deniers believe
they are (they are actually committed to furthering their conspiracy theory).50
Anderson then goes into another long drawn out explanation, this time regarding the word holocaust.
He says that as he was reading his Spanish Bible (La Santa Biblia) and learned that Noah offered “un
holocausto to the Lord” when he got off the ark, and he determined the word meant “the whole burnt
offering.” Anderson is close, although the text does not say “un holocausto” as he says it does when he
quotes it. The reference is to Genesis 8:20, which reads, “Y edificó Noé un altar a Jehová, y tomó de
todo animal limpio y de toda ave limpia, y ofreció holocausto en el altar.”51 The phrase Anderson is
referring to is, “y ofreció holocausto en el altar” and not “un holocausto” as he claims. This is the
beginning of where he goes horribly wrong in his eisegetical interpretation of the text.
The phrase is translated as, “and offered holocaust on the altar.” The word “holocaust” is translated
from the Greek word holocauston, which, in turn, is a translation of the Hebrew word `olah, which
refers to a burnt sacrifice. Anderson then takes this very simple understanding of the word holocaust,
and claims that since the “final solution to the Jewish question” was known as the “holocaust,” this
clearly means that the supposed goals was to “kill all the Jews and cremate them all.” He claims this is
what the holocaust actually means. He then explains that since the entire Jewish race was not all killed
and cremated in World War II, then the holocaust didn’t actually happen. “My point is this,” he says, “if
there was no mass cremation of millions and millions of Jews, then can you really call it the holocaust
anymore?”
That anyone can actually accept the complete suspension of rational thought necessary to believe such
nonsense is difficult to accept. And yet here we have Steven Anderson on video that has been preserved
for posterity demonstrating this very thing. It takes very little time and effort to do the research and
learn that most of the Jewish victims who were cremated were burned in pits, trenches, and pyres. Not
in the crematoria. Anderson claims this method would be inadequate for the destruction of the bodies.
As we see here, Anderson begins with a premise (that the Nazi’s were intent on both killing all of the
Jews and then cremating all of the bodies) that simply has no basis in reality.
While the Nazi’s were intent on ridding the world of Jews, the burning of the bodies was simply a
method utilized to help alleviate the problem of stacks of dead bodies. Their primary goal was to
eradicate the Jews. Remove them the planet. To achieve this psychopathic end they shot them. By the
thousands. They then took the bodies and dumped them in pits, trenches, ravines, and on pyres. Many
of the bodies they burned in the pits and on the pyres. Did these fires consume the bodies completely?
No, of course not. But to be brutally frank, it is far easier to dispose of the remains once they had been
burned in such a manner, than it would have been had they been simply shot and buried. The burning of
the bodies, you see, was nothing more than a means to an end. When the statistics are matched with the
methods, it quickly becomes apparent that around six million Jews were systematically exterminated52.
Steven Anderson and his New IFB movement deny the existence of the Nazi death camps (claiming
they were all simply forced labor camps. What he and they fail to mention and/or understand is that
thousands died at the hands of the Nazi’s while in these camps. Virtually all of the Nazi concentration
camps, regardless of their initial purpose, became a death camp to one degree or another.
Anderson tries to claim that the Nazi’s simply wanted the Jews to leave Germany, and not necessarily
to exterminate them. He points to a commemorative coin bearing both the Nazi swastika and the star of
David as evidence of this. He claims the Nazi’s and the Jews were working hand in hand to accomplish
this. He even references the Haavara Agreement of August 193353 (between National Socialists and
German Zionists) as evidence of this. What he has either failed or chosen to mention is that the Haavara
Agreement was nothing more than a precursory stage of what became known as the “Final Solution to
the Jewish Question”, which was the Nazi plan to rid Germany (and the world) of all Jews. While the
Haavara Agreement served to relocate some 60,000 Jews to British Palestine between 1933 and 1939,
as the war broke out the Nazi’s soon realized that this plan was no longer feasible, and another plan,
one that worked within the parameters of war the Nazi’s had instituted against the world, was
necessary.
Anderson finishes his antisemitic video diatribe of nonsensical myths and debunked conspiracy
theories by making several comments that can only be described as insulting. Insulting to the Jewish
people, insulting to those unfortunate enough to view his video (by assuming they are too stupid to
realize he is merely regurgitating the same tired old long refuted antisemitic garbage), and insulting to
God by claiming to be a Christian while exhibiting a hatred on par with the Nazi’s he laughingly claims
he does not approve of.
He claims the reason the Nazi’s shaved the Jews heads and made them take showers (Anderson claims
the showers were regular showers, and not gas chambers) was because, well, they are Jews so, you
know filthy and diseased and head lice. More racist antisemitic language.
As with virtually all holocaust deniers, Anderson creates a straw man argument, saying things such as
the holocaust is about six million Jews being sent straight to death camps where they were murdered,
the photographs of the emaciated corpses proves there was no holocaust because it proves they weren’t
sent straight to their deaths upon reaching the camps and there aren’t any photos of six million dead
Jews, and there are no credible witnesses to the gas chambers or cremations, and the Jews deny that
Jesus is the Messiah therefore they are all liars and are thus lying about the holocaust, and he then
proceeds to tear down the straw man he has built and say it proves the holocaust did not happen.
In order to show that all Jews will go to hell, Anderson makes reference to Matthew 8:12, “But the
children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of
teeth.” and he says that this verse shows all Jesus will go to hell. However, as he often does, Anderson
eisegetes the text rather than exegetes it, and his explanation defies all rational understanding as it
ignores numerous explicitly taught Scripture in order to support what Anderson already believes. The
passage is referring to theocratic Jews who believed that because they were trusting in the law to save
them, rather than for God to save them (which is contrary to what God has always taught, even in
regard to the law (see Romans 7:7-25), and who thus believed they were children of the kingdom. Jesus
was simply using language they would recognize as being about themselves.
Anderson claims the reason the Jews lie about the holocaust is because without the holocaust, the
nation of Israel would not exist. He says the holocaust was the “justification for going into Palestine
and stealing the land from the Arabs who lived there, and killing a bunch of Palestinians and kicking
them out, and putting them into a giant concentration camp known as Gaza or the West Bank.”
He claims the United Nations and the Rothchilds and the World Government, etc., were behind creation
of the nation of Israel; and Zionism was created by the Jews to manipulate the United States into
supporting Israel, and has caused the Muslims to hate Americans. It’s all the Jews fault.
He then offers some research options for those who want to research the holocaust for themselves. He
recommends:
The Holocaust Hoax Exposed by Victor Thorn
Auschwitz The Case for Sanity by Carlo Mattogno
The Hoax of the Twentieth Century: The Case Against the Presumed Extermination of European Jewry
by Arthur Butz
All three are standard holocaust denial books.
At the end of the day, the holocaust denial doctrine of Steven Anderson, as with the entire holocaust
denial movement, is filled with uninformed suppositions and speculations coupled with their own
misanthropic misrepresentations of the facts. Their tactics are almost uniform throughout the
movement. They do irrelevant calculations based on their own ignorance in order to "prove" their
claims. Quite often they will hyper focus on a specific, usually obscure aspect of the holocaust while
ignoring the totality of the whole. They ignore the all of the historical evidence in favor of their
presuppoitionally biased calculations. The purpose of the tactics is to cast doubt on that specific claim,
and then they leave it up to others to come in and disprove them. Most people will not take the time to
fully research the holocaust, and the deniers like Anderson not only know this, but they count on it. If
they are able to cast doubt on any particular aspect of the holocaust, then they have then succeeded in
creating doubt in the average persons mind regarding the whole of the holocaust. Once one is doubtful
about one aspect, they will never be sure regarding what they know about the rest.
This is the goal of the holocaust denier. They cannot be dissuaded by rational arguments or logic or
even irrefutable documented evidence. They are usually so thoroughly indoctrinated, so completely
infused with antisemitism and an irrational hatred of Jews; and so convinced that the Jews are behind a
vast shadowy international cabal operating with the goal of destroying the (white) western world, and
establishing global domination with the center of their power located in Israel, that they can only be
changed by a miracle of God.
Luke 24:46-47 says, "And [Jesus] said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to
suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be
preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.”
To whom? To the very Jews that called for Christ’s crucifixion. Why? Because, as the Apostle Paul
makes very clear in his epistle to the Romans, God continues to love the Jews and is clearly not done
with them yet. He still intends on saving the remnant of His children that are found among the Jewish
people. Compare this with Isaiah 37:4; Ezra 9:8; Nehemiah 1:2; Haggai 1:12; Isaiah 10:22; and
Zephaniah 2:7. See God’s message to Elijah in 1 Kings 19, He will reserve for Himself a remnant. See
God’s message to Ezekiel 6, He will reserve for Himself a remnant. See the 144,000 Jews reserved for
the Lord in Revelation 7 and 14. See Isaiah 37:31, the Tribe of Judah will be a remnant preserved for
the Lord. Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ came though the Tribe of Judah! (Matthew 1:1-6; Luke
3:31-34). God will always reserve for Himself a remnant of His people from among the Jews, “Esaias
also crieth concerning Israel, though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a
remnant shall be saved”! (Romans 9:27). While Steven Anderson is quick to write off the Jews, God is
not going to write them off as easily as Anderson.
Conclusion
As we have seen throughout this examination of Steven Anderson and his New IFB movement, they
are anything but Christian, regardless of what they call themselves. From criminal activity engaged in
by movement leaders, to documented lying to their congregants from the pulpit; from rampant
hypocrisy to widespread denial of the biblical Jesus, replacing Him with either a modalist deity or a
trithesitic deity; from slander and character assassination to orchestrated attacks designed to destroy the
reputation of a person; from obvious unbiblical and anti-biblical doctrines to demonically inspired
hatred, the New IFB movement is the antithesis of biblical, God honoring, Christ worshiping, Holy
Spirit led Christianity.
For those who are involved with the New IFB Movement, it would serve you well to remove
yourselves as fast and as far from it as you possibly can.
For those who have been exposed to the New IFB Movement, run! Run as far and as fast as you can
away from it! Do not hesitate! Run for your very spiritual lives!
For those who may be contemplating involving themselves and they family in this movement, please
reconsider. Please think very hard about becoming involved with this ear tickling cult. They only want
to hook you and drag you into their movement and further increase their numbers, their influence, and
their reach.
For all of you, please remember the God inspired words of the Apostle Paul instructs the body in 2
Corinthians 6:14-18,
14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with
unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as
God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my
people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean
thing; and I will receive you.
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
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Anti-Semitism
January 12, 1931
Reply to an Inquiry of the Jewish News Agency in the United States
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National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of
cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism.
Anti-semitism is of advantage to the exploiters as a lightning conductor that deflects the blows aimed
by the working people at capitalism. Anti-semitism is dangerous for the working people as being a
false path that leads them off the right road and lands them in the jungle. Hence Communists, as
consistent internationalists, cannot but be irreconcilable, sworn enemies of anti-semitism.
In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply
hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.
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2. How to Hate a Jew

sanderson1611
Date unknown, this video has since been removed from YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyOhrl_lrIA
Accessed 10 October 2019
3. The Jews and Their Lies | Pastor Steven Anderson
File001
Published August 10, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61qewrKwZNo
Two sermons against the Jews on one video.
4. The Jews Are Not the Chosen People by Pastor Steven L. Anderson
Discerner of Spirits
Published July 10, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ckvynXHBj0
5. Differences between Old IFB and New IFB
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXyI0FwwEz4
Note: In this video, Anderson also states that the New IFB is completely intolerant of LGBT, that they
hate LGBT, and not just the sin of homosexuality, but also homosexuals themselves. This is borne out
by the refusal of New IFB churches to even allow homosexuals into their church buildings to hear a
sermon, their refusal to share the gospel with them, and their insistence that ALL homosexuals are
reprobate and beyond any hope for salvation (contrary to 1 Corinthians 6:9-11). Also in this video,
Anderson references both Donnie Romero (by sin, not by name) and mentions Romero stole money
from the church – thus admitting his complicity by not turning Romero over to the police, and telling
everyone else to not say anything because, “we have to keep Donnie out of jail.” and he also references
Paul Berg (again by sin and not name) as the “Layman who was found out to be a pervert, we exposed
him and turned him over to the police!” (not an exact quote, see video at the 12:00 mark). He goes on
to say that while the Old IFB is generally pro-Republican in their politics, the New IFB is staunchly
against both parties, and is staunchly anti-War, what Anderson calls “more of a Ron Paul Republican
type of view.” He says, “We’re against the military industrial complex and the warfare state, call us
(scare quotes) conspiracy theorists (scare quotes) or whatever.” He goes on to say the New IFB is anti-
birth control. Next, Anderson says New IFB sermons are “expository in nature.” Seriously? Maybe in a
twisted Scripture sort of way. Maybe more of an “Eisegetical exposition” of the Bible. He defines
expository as going verse by verse. Exegesis is technical and grammatical exposition, a careful drawing
out of the exact meaning of a passage in its original context. {To prepare an expository sermon, the
preacher starts with a passage of Scripture and then studies the grammar, the context, and the historical
setting of that passage in order to understand the author’s intent. In other words, the expositor is also an
exegete—one who analyzes the text carefully and objectively. (See our article “What is the difference
between exegesis and eisegesis?”) Once the preacher understands the meaning of the passage, he then
crafts a sermon to explain and apply it. The result is expository preaching.
https://www.gotquestions.org/expository-preaching.html}. He goes on to say the New IFB is anti-Bible
College. He says the pastors in the New IFB “believe in teaching all the heavy Bible doctrine in church,
Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night, they’ll teach the heavy doctrine.” He says the Old
IFB is into Christian school, but the New IFB is all about Home schooling (which he ironically spells
“home shool”). He says, “we’re also into not vaccinating our children, and taking a more alternative
view to medicine sometimes such as home birth and breast feeding the baby and doing things more
naturally and holistically,” He says that all the things they deviate on from the Old IFB – such as noted
here, are “actually an improvement in every case. If you actually compare these things side by side,
you’ll see that in every case we’ve gotten closer to the word of God. We’ve actually tightened things up
and improved things.” He claims that being anti-Zionist and anti-Jewish is a biblical viewpoint. He
says the New IFB is led by the Holy Spirit. It’s interesting that Anderson keeps talking about the Old
IFB from its beginnings in the 1940’s as being “traditional” and the “old paths.” Mid-20th century is
not old with regard to Christianity, nor Christian tradition. That would be the early centuries AD.
Maybe that’s why they are so willing to accept the pre-Wrath thing which didn’t exist until the 1990’s.
These are the core doctrinal distinctives of the New IFB, held by every New IFB church.
6. Framing the World, https://store.framingtheworld.com/t/books, accessed 07 October 2019
7. DNA Science and the Jewish Bloodline by Texe Marrs, RiverCrest Publishing, July 8, 2013,
8. Israeli Researcher Challenges Jewish DNA links to Israel, Calls Those Who Disagree 'Nazi
Sympathizers'
Jon Entine – Contributor | May 16, 2013
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-challenges-jewish-dna-links-to-
israel-calls-those-who-disagree-nazi-sympathizers/#6abadeed28bc
Ashkenazi Jews Are Not Khazars. Here’s The Proof
Alexander Beider - September 25, 2017
https://forward.com/opinion/382967/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-khazars-heres-the-proof/
Jews Are Not Descended From Khazars, Hebrew University Historian Says
Ofer Aderet - Jun 26, 2014
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/khazar-myth-busted-1.5253397
9. The Synagogue of Satan: The Secret History of Jewish World Domination, by Andrew Carrington
Hitchcock, RiverCrest Publishing, May 19, 2007, Accessed 10 October 2019
10. European-American Evangelistic Crusades Website Bookstore
Entry for “The Synagogue of Satan” by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock
http://www.eaec.org/bookstore/books/the_synagogue_of_satan.htm
11. Ibid
12. The Synagogue of Satan by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock, page 8, Accessed 10 October 2019
13. Ibid, page 37
14. Ibid, page 104
15. Ibid, page 199
16. Ibid, page 218
17. Ibid, page 25
18. The Myth of the Six Million: An Examination of the Nazi Extermination Plot, by David Hoggan,
Noontide Press, 1978, Accessed 10 October 2019
19. AUSCHWITZ: The Final Count by Vivian Bird (Editor), The Barnes Review, 2000, Accessed 10
October 2019
20. Vivian Bird: Auschwitz: The Final Count, A Review, By Richard A. Widmann, Published: 1999-01-
01, https://codoh.com/library/document/508/?lang=en, Accessed 07 October 2019, Note: codoh.com is
the website for the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust, a holocaust denial group, Accessed
10 October 2019
21. The Bad War: The Truth Never Taught about World War II, by Jeff Rense and Mike King, self-
published, © 2015 Accessed 10 October 2019
22. Ibid
23. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion, accessed 07 October 2019
24. Marching to Zion Conference, https://store.framingtheworld.com/products/m2z-conference,
accessed 07 October 2019
25. Sermon Topics for Anti-Israel Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aUVmyr0t1A
Marching to Zion Conference | Day 1 Schedule
(Paul Wittenberger)
The New IFB
Sep 23, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCKjtr0KPlg
(Paul Wittenberger)
The New IFB
Sep 24, 2018
(Paul Wittenberger)
The New IFB
Sep 24, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMdiSt9HO7Q
26. Ibid
27. “Marching to Zion Conference is Not Cancelled”
Framing the World
Published October 3, 2018
Notes: Eventbrite has shut down our ability to sign people up for the Marching to Zion Conference for
hate speech. They have cancelled our account and have refunded everyone there tickets. However,
that's not going to stop this event. We are asking for people to re-sign up for the event and re-purchase
your tickets at Framingtheworld.com. Just follow this link below and purchase a ticket for each person
attending the event. So sorry for this inconvenience.
URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtIHHkZ6xps&t=1s
28. Eventbrite Cancels Registration But Marching to Zion Conference CONTINUES
Published October 4, 2018
Notes: #Eventbrite #Cancelled the Marching to Zion #Conference like a bunch of hypocrites. Never
use this company!
URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6hT7PlAOqE&t=3s
29. Misinterpreted & Out Of Context Scriptures | Bro. Bruce Mejia
Fwbc La
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl0aQtWyBv4
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem nonsense
File001 [Bruce Mejia preaching]
Excerpt from sermon "Misinterpreted & Out Of Context Scriptures", preached by Evangelist Bruce
Mejia from Faithful Word Baptist Church, Los Angeles, California, 10/29/18, PM. "Misinterpreted &
Out Of Context Scriptures" sermon https://youtu.be/Hl0aQtWyBv4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V21JYKAruY
30. Ibid
31. Ibid
32. Ibid
33. Differences between Old IFB and New IFB
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXyI0FwwEz4
accessed on 13 October 2019
While Replacement Theology replaces Israel with the Church as God’s chosen people, and subscribes
all of God’s promises to Israel to the Church instead; Covenant Theology does not. Covenant Theology
teaches that the Church, and not national Israel, is the Israel of God mentioned in Galatians 6:16. At the
same time, however, Covenant Theology does not exclude Israel from the Church, and believes it will,
in time, come to accept Jesus as their Messiah and be included in the Israel of God, which is another
term for the true believers of God. It has always meant that, and had never meant national Israel. See
Romans chapter 11.
34. Ibid
35. The New IFB admits that they are anti-Israel
It it wan’t clear enough by the claims that Israel loves occupation and likes murdering Palestinians, it
now has been made clear that the New IFB is actually self-admitting to being anti-Israel. Several
months ago, when Tyler Doka was still on the up-and-up in the New IFB, he criticized the
militarygetsaved Baptist Church directory for calling his church Anti-Israel. But now, Pastor Johnson
has uploaded a video admitting that the Marching to Zion conference is not just an anti-zionism
conference, but anti-Israel. See the screenshots of the video title below.
http://newifb.info/index.php/2018/10/07/the-new-ifb-admits-that-they-are-anti-israel/
Posted to the New IFB website on 07 October 2018
[Note: The YouTube Channel of Michael Johnson & Temple Baptist Church has been removed by
YouTube, therefore the video’s noted here are no longer available on YouTube. Good for YouTube]
35. No Such Thing as "ANTI-SEMITIC"
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa1uxLEZy80
36. 1948 Was a Fraud
sanderson1611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8i-Py5BXP0
37. Laws against Holocaust denial
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial
16 specifically illegal & 5 more which include holocaust denial as part of other laws, for a total of 21
countries.
There are a total of sixteen countries that have made holocaust denial a criminal offense: Australia,
Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Greece, Hungry, Israel, Italy, Lithuania,
Luxembourg, Poland, Romania, Russia, and Slovakia.
There are an additional five countries where although denial of the holocaust is not specifically a crime,
it is included within the description of similar crimes:
Liechtenstein (though not specifically illegal, denial of genocide and other crimes against humanity is
an imprisonable offense),
The Netherlands (though not specifically illegal, it is included in this country’s hate crime and anti-
discrimination laws),
Portugal (though not specifically illegal, denial of war crimes if used to promote racism or
discrimination is an imprisonable offense),
Spain (though denial is not illegal, justifying the holocaust is an imprisonable offense),
Switzerland (though not specifically illegal, denial of genocide and other crimes against humanity is an
imprisonable offense).
These twenty-one countries will prosecute holocaust denial either under their laws specifically
identifying holocaust denial as a criminal offense, or under their existing hate crime laws, anti-
discrimination laws, denazification laws, and crimes against humanity laws. Contrary to Anderson’s
claim, most of these laws are specifically pro-Jewish or pro-Israel. They are, however, pro-humanity
which is a decidedly biblical teaching and decidedly against everything Steven Anderson and the New
IFB stand for, believe, and teach.
38. Pastor Steven Anderson – The Holocaust Hoax Exposed
Originally published by Steven Anderson to YouTube, but subsequently removed by YouTube as being
in violation of community standards. It was then uploaded to Bitchute by the “Phoenix Party Fascists”
on July 3rd, 2019, where it can still be viewed at: https://www.bitchute.com/video/2aK4j795mQ0v/
Steven Anderson advances holocaust-denying conspiracy theories.
https://newifb.info/index.php/2018/07/26/steven-anderson-advances-holocaust-denying-conspiracy-
theories/
Steven Anderson uses Jews’ persecutions against them
https://newifb.info/index.php/2018/07/25/steven-anderson-uses-jews-persecutions-against-them/
39. Ibid
40. Ibid
42. Ibid
43. Extermination camps: Chełmno (Kulmhof), Bełżec, Sobibór, Treblinka, Auschwitz-Birkenau,
Majdanek, Maly-Trostenets, Sajmište (initially an extermination camp, later became a work camp), &
Jadovono-Jasenovac (an extermination camp established by Nazi sympathetic Croatia
[Mauthausen, Dachau, Bergen-Belsen, Buchenwald, etc., were work camps, not extermination camps,
however, at all works camps people were murdered just as they were at the extermination camps. The
essential difference between the two types of camps was, people who went to the extermination camps
were sent there to be killed; and at the concentration camps, aka work camps, the people were
separated with some being assigned to forced labor and others being assigned to be killed.]
Extermination camp https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp
German camps in occupied Poland during World War II
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_camps_in_occupied_Poland_during_World_War_II
Nazi concentration camps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camps
45. Holocaust Facts: Where Does the Figure of 6 Million Victims Come From?
Considering the amount of original research that has been done in recent decades, is this number still
considered accurate by scholars of the subject?
Haaretz | 01.05.201
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/holocaust-remembrance-day/6-million-where-is-the-figure-from-
1.5319546
46. Ibid
47. Ibid
48. Ibid
49. Dimension of Genocide: The Number of Jewish Victims of National Socialism (Sources and
Representations on Contemporary History) by Wolfgang Benz, published by DeGruyter Oldenbourg,
German Edition, 1991
The Holocaust: A German Historian Examines the Genocide by Wolfgang Benz, Columbia University
Press, 1999
Steven Anderson advances holocaust-denying conspiracy theories.
https://newifb.info/index.php/2018/07/26/steven-anderson-advances-holocaust-denying-conspiracy-
theories/
Steven Anderson uses Jews’ persecutions against them
https://newifb.info/index.php/2018/07/25/steven-anderson-uses-jews-persecutions-against-them/
51. Reina-Valera 1960 (RVR1960), Versión Reina-Valera 1960 © Sociedades Bíblicas en América
Latina, 1960. Renovado © Sociedades Bíblicas Unidas, 1988. Since this is the version of Santa Biblia
based on the Masoretic Text and the Textus Receptus (as is the King James Version), it would naturally
be the version used by Steven Anderson. Accessed 10 October 2019
52. Body Disposal at Auschwitz: The End of Holocaust Denial by John C. Zimmerman, Associate
Professor, University of Nevada, Las Vegas. Accessed 10 October 2019
53. Haavara Agreement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

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