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PTO Compatibility Criteria 4-8
Transmission PTO Compatibility Matrix
4700 SF/SB - Allison 4-9
4700 SF/SB - Eaton Fuller 4-10
4800/4900SB AWD - Allison & Eaton Fuller 4-11
4900SB - Allison & Eaton Fuller 4-12
4900SF - Allison & Eaton Fuller 4-13
4900XD - Allison & Eaton Fuller 4-14
4900SF/SB - Allison & Eaton Fuller With Front Frame Extension 4-15
Cooling Chart
Radiator Size & Configuration Model Engine
WST LowMax
Manufacturer
Data Code
ISX/SIG
FEPTO
DD13
DD15
DD16
Aluminum Core / Crimped Tank Radiators
X X X X X X X X
1375 266-098 Modine N Y Y
RC RC RC RC RC RC RC RC X
1625 266-082 Modine Y N N X X
1600 266-1A0 Modine Y Y N X X X X X X
1700 266-1AW Modine Y Y N X X X X X X X
Copper Brass Core / Bolted Tank Radiators
X X X X
1570 266-080 Modine N Y Y X X X X
RC RC RC RC
X
1750 266-1AE Modine N Y N X X X X X X
RC
X X
1875 266-1AF Modine N Y N X X X X
RC RC
Glacier Copper Brass Core / Bolted Tank Radiators
1710GC 266-1AA Copper Core N Y Y X X X X
1845GC 266-1AB Copper Core N Y N X X X X X
RC = Raised Cab
Western Star Bodybuilder Book: Revision 3.1
Sizing, Mounting, Locations, Output & Drive Options 3. PTO Output Types
SAE B-Pad: 2 and 4 bolt pad 7/8” 13 tooth internal spline
SAE BB-Pad: 2 and 4 bolt pad as B-pad 1” 15 tooth internal spline
Allison
Allison Rear
PTO Detroit Eaton Rear Eaton Eaton 10 bolt Split
10 bolt Engine
Application DT12 Throughshaft 6 bolt 8 bolt Med Shaft
Heavy Duty PTO
Duty
5. hydraulic Systems, Power/Torque Calculations: Dump x x x x
Dump Large >20 yards x x
Aerial x x x x
HP = GPM x P
E x 1714 GPM = Gallons/Minute
Walking Floor x x x x
P = Pressure (psi) Auger x x
E = Efficiency (use 0.85)
RPM = Pump speed Screw Discharge (feedlot) x x
Bulk Feed x x x x
Torque = Power x RPM
5252 Sewer Vacum x x x
Concrete Mixer Small x x x
Concrete Mixer Large x
Concrete Pump x
Blower Unit (small) x x x x
Blower Unit (Large) x x x
Fire pump <1000 gpm x x
Fire pump >1000 gpm x
Refuse x x x x
Generator x x x x
Snow Plow x x x x
Wrecker x x x x
Winch >30,000 capacity x x
Western Star Bodybuilder Book: Revision 3.1
PTO Switch (FEPTO/REPTO) or Trans PTO feedback Switch Required wired feedback to CPC pin 2/9 or multiplex PTO switch position via J1939 PGN when work is being performed.
Ÿ Disables the Auto Elevate feature
Ÿ Disables DPF regeneration unless PTO Dosing (79V-001) is enabled
Ÿ Removes California Clean Idle limitation of 900rpm for adjusted idle with cruise control switches (+/-)
Ÿ Allows VSG (PTO Mode) operation for remote throttle pedals/ hand throttles
Vehicle Speed Signal Evaluation in Case of Split Shaft PTO VSS Evaluation in Case of Split Gear PTO is a feature that is STANDARD beginning with CPC4 R36 software. This feature prevents the vehicle
odometer from accruing miles, the speedometer from displaying a false road speed, and undesired warning buzzer operation while the PTO is engaged and the vehicle is not moving (Road Speed = 0). For
this feature to be active, the following conditions must be met:
Ÿ Park Brake is applied
Ÿ Remote PTO is active
Ÿ ABS front wheel speed < 5 km/h (3.1 mph)
TSC1 PTO (Multiplexed PTO Control using TSC1 Interface) - Beginning with CPC R36 level software, PTO speed control can be achieved with specific J1939 messages using the TSC1 interface. Refer to
section "Communications - SAE J1939 Data Link". Dealer/Distributor changeable parameters can limit the maximum engine speed and allow for neutral and/or park brake interlocks.
J1939 PTO – Power Takeoff Information (PGN 65264) - Ability to multiplex PTO switch (SPN 979), increment + (SPN 981), and decrement – (SPN982). The PTO controls operate similar to cruise switches,
only from a body controller, the functionality of the dashboard mounted cruise control switches is maintained.
Western Star Bodybuilder Book: Revision 3.1
GHG17 Engine changes have a big impact vehicle performance with the introduction of
“downsped” engine ratings. To improve fuel economy the engine speed at which peak torque and Engines
peak power occur is being lowered. With these new features it is necessary to reevaluate the pre Model: D471.928 - Truck Engine Family: DD13
GHG17 power train configurations to ensure the equipment performs under these low speed Rating: 470bhp @ 1625r/min - 1650lb*ft @ 1075r/min Certification: GHG17
outputs: 2200
470 bhp
Ÿ Axle Ratios 500 (350 kW) 2000
Ÿ Torque Converters
Ÿ Transmission Shift Maps 450 1650 lb.ft 1800
Torque [lb•ft]
(2237 Nm)
Ÿ Engine Ratings
400 1600
The new GHG17 engines spin the engine slower and work it harder. The ability to operate the
350 1519 lb.ft 1400
engine on an alternate PTO operating curve. This solution is currently only available for
Power [bhp]
(2060 Nm)
stationary PTO operation. 300 1200
There are a series of interlocks that will be required in order for the PTO Mode curve to be 250 1000
activated:
Ÿ The engine PTO Power Curve parameter must be enabled; (the official parameter name within 200 800
CPC04T software is “PTO Power Enable”).
Ÿ Park brake must be set. 150 600
Ÿ Dashboard PTO switch must be engaged.
Ÿ Wheel speed sensor must be indicating road speed below 5 mph. 100
500 700 900 1100 1300 1500 1700 1900
For “live drive” PTO operation above 900 RPM see page 4-? for programing and modification Power Engine Speed [r/min]
requirements. Torque Dd13 GHG 17 Adjusted Idle Normal Engine Operation
Adjusted Idle (non-work mode) 2200
470 bhp
Ÿ Idle governor
500 (350 kW) 2000
Ÿ Driver is allowed to fast idle the engines, but work is not necessarily being performed
Ÿ Engine remains on the idle governor 1650 lb*ft
450 1800
Ÿ Limited to Clean Idle limitation of 900 rpm (2237 N*m)
Clearance Criteria:
442XWAHX-P5XK
Acceptable installation clearance is defined as 13mm of clearance with 2 degrees of engine rotation about the engine
crankshaft. In some cases additional clearance is required such as when considering front suspension components. P.T.O. SERIES
The clearance review is also restricted to the basic PTO housing and does not include the different mounting flanges
MOUNTING OPTION
and orientations available as this is highly variable.
GEAR RATIO
Acceptable clearance is determined by reviewing clearances to the following major components: LUBE
Ÿ Transmissions INPUT GEAR
Ÿ Suspension components SHIFT OPTION
Ÿ Exhaust components (typical EPA2010 options only)
ASSEMBLY
Ÿ Underslung crossmembers
Ÿ Front cab crossmembers OUTPUT OPTION
Ÿ Frame rails
SPECIAL FEATURE
The following components are not considered in the clearance review:
Ÿ Air lines TG6SU6818-E3KH
Ÿ Fuel lines
Ÿ Electrical harnesses and components
Ÿ Other chassis mounted components not listed above
MUNCIEPartNoSystem
TG6SU6818-3KH
Ÿ PTO external lubrication lines
Note: for Allison 4000 series transmissions with top mounted PTO's, clearance for PTO driven equipment maybe
limited by dual exhaust, single lefthand side exhaust systems and rear of transmission crossmembers. ListedasTG-3incompatibilitycharts
The review was done by vehicle model; only transmissions which have been previously used in a specific model of
truck were included, for example, in the Western Star 69xd model only the Eaton RT and Allison 4000 series
transmissions were reviewed.
Western Star Bodybuilder Book: Revision 3.1
Cummins ISC/ISL
278-3, 278-5, 870-3, 870-5, SETBACK MUNCIE CD05-1, CD05-3, CD10-1, CD10-3,
877-3, 877-5, 890-5 CS24/25-1, CS24/25-3, HS24-1, HS24-3
SETBACK
W/O REPTO
MUNCIE CD05-1, CD05-3, CD10-1, CD10-3, RHS CHELSEA 267-3, 267-5, 277-3, 277-5,
CS10/11-1, CS24/25-1, CS24/25-3,
278-3, 278-5, 890-5
Detroit
Cummins ISC/ISL
SETBACK MUNCIE TG8-1, TG8-3, CS8-1, CS8-3, 340-3, 340-5, 442-3,442-5
828-1, 828-3 FORWARD
W/O REPTO
BOTTOM MUNCIE TG8-1, TG8-3, CS8-1, CS8-3
Chelsea 238-3, 238-5, 489-3, 489-5,
823-3, 823-5, 880-3, 880-5 BOTTOM CHELSEA 238-3, 238-5, 489-3, 489-5,
EATON
FULLER 880-3, 880-5, 852-3, 852-5
MUNCIE TG6-1, TG6-3, CS6-1, CS6-3
LHS
REQUIRES 45 OR 55 FRO MUNCIE TG6-1, TG6-3, CS6-1, CS6-3
REQUIRES 45
CHELSEA 221-3, 221-5, 236-3, 236-5, DEGREE ADAPTER LHS CHELSEA 221-3, 221-5, 236-3, 236-5, DEGREE ADAPTER
340-3, 340-5, 442-3,442-5
340-3, 340-5, 442-3,442-5
FORWARD MUNCIE TG8-1, TG8-3, CS8-1, CS8-3, SETBACK
Detroit
828-1, 828-3
BOTTOM BOTTOM CHELSEA 238-3, 238-5, 489-3, 489-5,
Chelsea 238-3, 238-5, 489-3, 489-5,
EATON 880-3, 880-5, 852-3, 852-5
823-3, 823-5, 880-3, 880-5
FULLER
MUNCIE TG6-1, TG6-3, CS6-1, CS6-3
FRO MUNCIE TG6-1, TG6-3, CS6-1, CS6-3
REQUIRES 45 LHS
REQUIRES 45 OR 55
LHS CHELSEA 221-3, 221-5, 236-3, 236-5, DEGREE ADAPTER
CHELSEA 221-3, 236-5, 340-3, 340-5, DEGREE ADAPTER
442-3,442-5
340-3, 340-5, 442-3,442-5 FORWARD
SETBACK MUNCIE TG8-1,TG8-3,CS8-3,828-3
MUNCIE TG8-1,TG8-3, CS8-1, CS8-3, EATON
828-1, 828-3 FULLER BOTTOM CHELSEA 238-3, 238-5, 489-3, 489-5,
BOTTOM 880-3, 880-5
CHELSEA 238-3, 238-5, 489-3, 489-5, FO
823-3, 823-5, 880-3, 880-5 MUNCIE TG6-1, CS6-1 REQUIRES 55
ULTRASHIFT LHS
CHELSEA 221-3, 236-3, 340-5, 442-3 DEGREE ADAPTER
MUNCIE TG6-1, TG6-3, CS6-1, CS6-3
REQUIRES 45 OR 55 SETBACK MUNCIE TG8-1,TG8-3,CS8-3,828-3
LHS CHELSEA 221-3, 221-5, 236-3, 236-5, DEGREE ADAPTER
340-3, 340-5, 442-3,442-5 BOTTOM CHELSEA 238-3, 238-5, 489-3, 489-5,
FORWARD 880-3, 880-5
EATON MUNCIE TG8-1,TG8-3,CS8-3,828-3
FULLER BOTTOM CHELSEA 238-5, 489-3, 489-5,
FO 880-3, 880-5
4800SB AWD (with Front Drive Axle) 4900SB AWD (with Front Drive Axle)
GUIDELINE CHART-TRANSMISSION MOUNTED PTO'S GUIDELINE CHART-TRANSMISSION MOUNTED PTO'S
ENGINE TRANSMISSION PTO LOCATION PTO NOTES ENGINE TRANSMISSION PTO LOCATION PTO NOTES
SERIES 60
TOP
Detroit
FULLER
Detroit DD15/16,
CHELSEA 236-3 EXHAUST RT/RTLO
SETBACK WITH
EATON MUNCIE TG8-1, TG8-3, CS8-1,
FULLER
109-AA4
MUNCIE TG8-1, TG8-3, CS8-1, CS8-3, 828-1, 828-3
SETBACK WITH
109-AA4
4900SF - Allison & Eaton Fuller Detroit DD13 549-998 WITHOUT FRONT FRAME EXTENSION
4900SF/4900EX SINGLE NON DRIVE FRONT AXLE 4900SF/4900EX SINGLE NON DRIVE FRONT AXLE
GUIDELINE CHART-TRANSMISSION MOUNTED PTO'S GUIDELINE CHART-TRANSMISSION MOUNTED PTO'S
AXLE LOCN ENGINE TRANSMISSION PTO LOCATION PTO NOTES AXLE LOCN ENGINE TRANSMISSION PTO LOCATION PTO NOTES
SETFORWARD WITH
442-5 INBOARD EXHAUST FULLER
FULLER
Detroit DD15/16,
RT/RTLO
109-AA4
RT/RTLO MUNCIE TG8-1, TG8-3, CS8-1, MUNCIE TG8-1, TG8-3, CS8-1,
CS8-3, 828-1, 828-3 CS8-3, 828-1, 828-3
Detroit
Dd13
BOTTOM BOTTOM
CHELSEA 238-3, 238-5, 489-3, CHELSEA 238-3, 238-5, 489-3,
489-5, 823-3, 823-5, 880-3, 489-5, 823-3, 823-5, 880-3,
880-5 880-5
MUNCIE TG6-1, TG6-3, CS6-1, REQUIRES 45 OR 55 DEGREE MUNCIE TG6-1, TG6-3, CS6-1,
CS6-3 ADAPTER CS6-3
REQUIRES 45 OR 55 DEGREE
RHS CHELSEA 221-3, 221-5, 236-3, RHS ADAPTER
REQUIRES 45 OR 55 DEGREE CHELSEA 221-3, 221-5, 236-3,
236-5, 340-3, 340-5, 442-3, 236-5, 340-3, 340-5, 442-3,
EATON 442-5
ADAPTER EATON
442-5
FULLER FULLER
MUNCIE TG8-1, TG8-3, CS8-1,
FR/FRO FR/FRO MUNCIE TG8-1, TG8-3, CS8-1,
CS8-3, 828-1, 828-3
CS8-3, 828-1, 828-3
BOTTOM CHELSEA 238-3, 238-5, 489-3, BOTTOM
489-5, 823-3, 823-5, 880-3, CHELSEA 238-3, 238-5, 489-3,
880-5 489-5, 823-3, 823-5, 880-3,
880-5
REQUIRES 45 OR 55 DEGREE
MUNCIE TG6-1, TG6-3, CS6-1, ADAPTER, PTOS NOT AVAILABLE MUNCIE TG6-1, TG6-3, CS6-1,
CS6-3 WITH OPTION 235-076, HORZ CS6-3
REQUIRES 45 OR 55 DEGREE
INBOARD EXHAUST
RHS ADAPTER , PTOS NOT AVAILABLE
RHS CHELSEA 221-3, 221-5, 236-3,
EATON CHELSEA 221-3, 221-5, 236-3, REQUIRES 45 OR 55 DEGREE WITH OPTION 235-076, HORZ
MUNCIE CD05-3
LHS
LHS CHELSEA NOT AVAILABLE
CHELSEA NOT AVAILABLE
MUNCIE CD05-1, CD05-3, CD10-
MUNCIE CD05-1, CD05-3, CD10- 1, CD10-3, CS10/11-1,
1, CD10-3, CS10/11-1, ALLISON 4000 CS10/11-3, CS24/25-1,
CS10/11-3, CS24/25-1, SERIES CS24/25-3, HS24-1, HS24-3,
ALLISON 4000 CS24/25-3, HS24-1, HS24-3, CS41-1, CS41-3
SERIES CS41-1, CS41-3 TOP
TOP CHELSEA 267-3, 267-5, 269-3,
CHELSEA 267-3, 267-5, 269-3, 269-5, 277-3, 277-5, 278-3,
278-5, 859-3, 859-5, 867-3,
WITH 109-A06 (2.5 DEG POWER ANGLE)
Detroit DD15/16,
Detroit SERIES 60
SETBACK WITH
RHS CHELSEA 236-3, 340-5
OPTION 235-076, HORZ INBOARD
SETBACK WITH
Cummins ISX
EATON
109-AA4
CHELSEA 221-3, 236-3, 340-5 REQUIRES 45 DEGREE ADAPTER EXHAUST
EATON FULLER
FULLER RT/RTLO MUNCIE TG8-1, TG8-3, CS8-1,
MUNCIE TG8-1, TG8-3, CS8-1, CS8-3, 828-1, 828-3
RT/RTLO CS8-3, 828-1, 828-3
BOTTOM
BOTTOM CHELSEA 238-3, 238-5, 489-3,
CHELSEA 238-3, 238-5, 489-3, 489-5, 823-3, 823-5, 880-3,
489-5, 823-3, 823-5, 880-3, 880-5
880-5
REQUIRES 45 OR 55 DEGREE
MUNCIE TG6-1, TG6-3, CS6-1, ADAPTER, PTOS NOT AVAILABLE
MUNCIE TG6-1, TG6-3, CS6-1, REQUIRES 45 OR 55 DEGREE
CS6-3 WITH OPTION 235-076, HORZ
CS6-3 ADAPTER
INBOARD EXHAUST
RHS RHS
CHELSEA 221-3, 221-5, 236-3,
REQUIRES 45 OR 55 DEGREE REQUIRES 45 OR 55 DEGREE
236-5, 340-3, 340-5, 442-3, CHELSEA 221-3, 221-5, 236-3,
ADAPTER EATON ADAPTER, PTOS NOT AVAILABLE
EATON 442-5 236-5, 340-3, 340-5, 442-3, WITH OPTION 235-076, HORZ
FULLER 442-5
FULLER INBOARD EXHAUST
FR/FRO
FR/FRO MUNCIE TG8-1, TG8-3, CS8-1,
CS8-3, 828-1, 828-3 MUNCIE TG8-1, TG8-3, CS8-1,
CS8-3, 828-1, 828-3
BOTTOM
CHELSEA 238-3, 238-5, 489-3,
BOTTOM
CHELSEA 238-3, 238-5, 489-3,
489-5, 823-3, 823-5, 880-3, 489-5, 823-3, 823-5, 880-3,
880-5 880-5
877-5
CHELSEA 267-3, 267-5, 269-3,
269-5, 277-3, 277-5, 278-3,
278-5, 859-3, 859-5, 867-3, MUNCIE CS6-1
867-5, 870-3, 870-5,
877-3, 877-5
MUNCIE CS6-1, TG6-1 REQUIRES 45 DEGREE
ADAPTER, PTO’S
RHS
Detroit SERIES 60
CHELSEA 221-3, 221-5, 236-3, INBOARD EXHAUST FULLER CHELSEA 221-3, 236-3, 340-5,
SETBACK WITH
RT/RTLO 442-3
Cummins ISX
EATON 340-3, 340-5, 442-3, 442-5
SET FORWARD WITH
Detroit SERIES 60
FULLER
MUNCIE TG8-1, TG8-3, CS8-1,
Cummins ISX
EATON MUNCIE TG6-1, TG6-3, REQUIRES 45 OR 55 DEGREE MUNCIE TG6-1, TG6-3, CS6-1,
FULLER FO CS6-1, CS6-3 REQUIRES
ADAPTER, PTOS NOT AVAILABLE CS6-3
45 OR 55 DEGREE ADAPTER,
ULTRASHIFT RHS WITH OPTION 235-076, HORZ
RHS PTOS NOT AVAILABLE WITH
INBOARD EXHAUST
CHELSEA 221-3, 221-5, CHELSEA 221-3, 221-5, 236-3, OPTION 235-076, HORZ
236-3, 236-5, 340-3, 340-5, EATON 236-5, 340-3, 340-5, 442-3, INBOARD EXHAUST
442-3, 442-5 FULLER FO 442-5