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VirtualHandout - 5820 - AU Virtual 2012 Handouts
VirtualHandout - 5820 - AU Virtual 2012 Handouts
AC5820-V
Scanning and point cloud data processing is an innovative and early trend, but it is already a leading
architecture, engineering, and construction industry’s technology that allows us to save time, gain better
accuracy, and win effectiveness. In this class, we will explore several real-life cases and discuss the best
ways and necessary tools that are required to efficiently derive 2D and 3D deliverables from a point
cloud. You will learn how to manage dense point clouds and control their visibility. We will also share our
best practices and tips and tricks for maximum performance working with scanned data in AutoCAD®
software.
Learning Objectives
At the end of this class, you will be able to:
Explain when and why the 3rd party software is necessary for point cloud projects
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A Case Study of Point Clouds in AEC: Tips and Tricks on How to Derive 2D and 3D Deliverables
Introduction
This class is based on actual every day cases, therefore, full of challenges and definitely worth
listening. During the session I will use AutoCAD and 3rd party software called Undet, which you
can download with 7 days free trail from www.infoera.com or www.undet.com websites. Also I
have uploaded some point cloud data sets, which I was using for preparation of this virtual
class.
Since 2011 years AutoCAD has great ability to support point clouds. You can index scanned
data in to PCG or ISD structure from different point cloud file formats. Also it is equipped with
basic tools for point cloud visibility and coloring management. Besides, I guess you already
know that one PCG file can consist up to 2 billion points. But the more sensitive question is: if
you can see all scanned points in the area of interest? This question was considered and
implemented in the latest AutoCAD version (2013). So now you can set Maximum visible point
count up to 10 million, depending whether your OS is 32 or 64 bits. In the earlier versions it was
possible to set only up to 2 million.
Hardware
If you want see up to 10 million points standard PC or better laptop is enough. But if you want
see more than 10 million you will already need more resources. You will also need some 3 rd
party software here as plain AutoCAD limits Max point count up to 10 million.
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Before starting creation of point cloud, firstly we need make sure that the hardware
acceleration is turned on. You can find it in the lower right corner. It is necessary to have it
turned on when working with such a massive date like point clouds.
P.S If you chose 2D Wireframe mode or turn off hardware acceleration, you can see point cloud
only in black and white.
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Before attaching point cloud into AutoCAD, it must be indexed. Option for indexing can be found
in AutoCAD ribbon menu bar, selecting Insert -> Create Point Cloud. AutoCAD 2013 version
supports basic point cloud files formats, which you can see in image bellow.
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After all set up of the settings we just need to attach created point cloud. And we are ready to
start.
After selecting the point cloud new tab appears. You can find here all AutoCAD tools
implemented for point cloud visibility and coloring management. You can fast and easily change
density of the point cloud.
You can fast We are recommending Auto Here are a variety of tools for
and easily update function to keep hold off. cropping point cloud. Point cloud
change density And only when you need just can be cropped using standard or
of the point placed RE (refresh) key to non-standard mathematical forms.
cloud. command line and redraw point
cloud. This trick will greatly
speed up the reviewing point
cloud.
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All created or saved UCS you can easily check or select in one
place.
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Why do I need 3rd party software if AutoCAD and AutoCAD based products has
point cloud functionality?
AutoCAD (2011/2012 version) have the great functionality to import point clouds and review
them but in most of cases it is not enough to prepare as-built documentation or high level of
detail 2D drawings or simple 3D models. Why is so?
Time consuming import. No possibility to group and classify imported data depending
on your work tasks and data structure. When using plain AutoCAD importing point
clouds gets difficult and long lasting process because you can index only one file per
time and usually having many files from different scanners force you to spend
unproductive hours for indexing and managing import dialog.
Limited file support. AutoCAD can support only following file formats: *.las, *.xyb, *.fls,
*.flw. The problem is that not all scanning equipment programs can export data to the
mentioned file formats.
Difficult to control visibility and coloring. Working with bigger point clouds in
AutoCAD gets difficult to control visibility and coloring. It is very complex and
uncomfortable to select individual object for detail view and characteristics management.
Basically, there are no features to select or filter desirable to view objects from the point
cloud. Besides, the standard PCG file has only one coloring channel (imported natural
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RGB) and no possibility to manage colors regarding height or distance from the
reference plane. In addition to this, you cannot resize points, but this is necessary when
you face low density of points or lack of sharpness in the cloud.
Limited number of points on the display. Plain AutoCAD handles to display only near
2 mln. points so you will not be able to see entire cloud. Basically, you will miss points.
Furthermore, when rotating the point cloud standard AutoCAD can display only 800 000
points. Therefore, sometimes it is even impossible to identify densely scanned object
when rotating. Unclear snapping on the point cloud is an issue as well because
AutoCAD snaps the object independently if it is hidden or not.
AutoCAD (2013 version) have some new functions to control point clouds data and review them
but in most of cases it is not enough to prepare as-built documentation or high level of detail 2D
drawings or simple 3D models. Why is so?
Additional indexing will speed up the process and give additional performance for view point
cloud data depending on the project tasks.
„No limits“ to point cloud project size. 3rd party software lets to import unlimited amount of
multiple files at once. No matter if you use different scanners, the only restriction is your HDD
size!
Data files and Individual points management. 3rd party software provides you with the
possibility to group and classify imported data depending on your work tasks and data structure.
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You can simply group data files or even individually selected points to manageable logical
classes.
Interactive Color management. Gives you full access to manage colors. Intensity, height, true
color or distance from the reference plane can be used for coloring your point clouds. Low
density of points or lack of sharpness in the cloud is not a problem as well. You can generate a
colorful image with larger and brighter points. Also lets you to set color of your point cloud data
by selecting view section area, scan positions or logical classes.
Interactive Visibility management. Use grips and gizmo because it is the easiest interactive
method to change the size and position of point cloud detail view area.
Smart indicator. Select view section area and 3rd party software will show you how many points
from different scan positions falls into your working area, also you can switch on / off any scan
positions or data groups. Smart indicator helps you to easily see all points, so no more missing
points! You can see 1,5mln – 40mln points in the detail view area depending on your equipment
and OS
Supports of additional point cloud data file formats. Such as scan data from Riegl scanners
with RDB files structure with colored points.
Additional UCS settings. Such as UCS by selected points to statistically locate UCS of
selected area of interest. And also to set correctly UCS to center of view section slices (as
example to create profiles).
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In our example the main project task was to create detailed drawings, in which we ware
should mark stone joins. Below I am giving you some tips and tricks which had helped to
complete project faster than was planned in work schedule.
So we started to choose
positions by the indicator
showing, which was
showing points count
fallen from different
positions or just started
switching off / on positions
in case to get clearest
view.
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Sometimes if you have scan position with poor quality of real colors, we suggesting you to use
coloring by intensity. And if you want to get best coloring setting in short time please keep
natural break function on, it lets you automatically choose interval selection on specific places.
We also noticed that if you want get clearest coloring view, please set coloring mode for each
scan position individual.
- Sometimes if you are out of time and you didn’t finished drawing, you can save your
view section and mark it, with any name. And you can any time turn back to your saved
view section. It looks like a simple thing, but it is very useful.
- To change view section size using grips and gizmo functions will help you to quickly
select the desired section view and move it anywhere you want.
- And using 3rd party software indicator you will always know when you are seeing all
points. So you can easily avoid time form playing with density button.
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3D modeling
Extracting point cloud into 3D models we found these tips and tricks that helped to make the
work more quickly and to avoid unstable AutoCAD workflow. And in this example we tried to
show main tips and trick that came out during 3D modeling.
I understanding that there are plenty of ways and tools to make 3D modeling, and each of you
have own way and know better than me how to extract point cloud.
To start understand and analyzing object structure I suwggest you to create a separate logical
class only for object of interest without any bushes or an useful information.
This trick will help you to get clear view without nearby bushes, trees, tall buildings, or just to
keep up clean point cloud. And additional good thing is that you will concentrate maximum
visible point count on preview mode in your selected area. And selected territory will became
quite dense.
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We've found that doing complex modeling with AutoCAD tools in original coordinate system it
works unstable. So we moved point cloud into different coordinate system with origin closed to
zero. And only after modeling part is finished, we suggest to move your objects to original
coordinate system.
We noticed that in order to start modeling we should become familiar with the object and
understand the mains forms that it contains as you see in picture bellow.
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- To change view section size using grips and gizmo functions will help you to quickly
select the desired section view and move it anywhere you want.
- Second view port helped to visualize the location of profile drawing.
- Please don’t forget dynamic UCS feature benefits when you need to cut or model solids.
Conclusion:
In practice, I can say AutoCAD 2013 version has enough features for point cloud visibility
management. But any 3rd party software provides additional features that really help and in
some places without certain features it is wasting lots of unnecessary time.
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