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Me: Hi welcome! First off, thanks so much for doing this! I appreciate this so much!

Hollie: Of course I’m happy to do it!

Me: So how are you doing??

Hollie: I’m good! I just got home from the gym, so I’m doing much better now!

Me: Haha that's great! I'm glad you’re doing good! Ok so how this is kinda gonna go is I’m just
gonna ask you a couple questions, you can answer them however you want and we’ll just talk!

Hollie: Perfect sounds easy enough haha!

Me: So my first question is how did you know you wanted to go into hair?

Hollie: to be honest when I was in school I always said I was gonna be a butrician, and then I
got a business scholarship in bcu, and got into dance and another scholarship so I was just
gonna go into business and dance at the same time but Will (Her husband now)l was going on a
mission, and he was really worried about going on a mission, and me finding another guy, so he
reminded me about how i wanted to go into beauty and That I was able to do that while he was
gone so I would be distracted and not think about boys, and so instead of going into business I
went and looked at schools and found the one that I wanted to go the most and I went there!

Me: Oh that's so cool! What a fun story, I never knew you were a dancer before

Hollie: haha neither do a lot of other people!

Me: Well I'm really glad you went into hair, i love when you do my hair. But ok my next question
is what is a typical day for you?

Hollie: umm I usually start work in anywhere between noon and two, and typically there's at
least always one maybe two colors in a day and built in with a haircut, umm there's really just a
hair cuts and colors umm i’ll get the occasional lash but i don't have many lashes and then umm
eyebrows that like one or two a months that's just typically it, I usually go in start a color umm
sometimes i'll have clients pop min between and like if there's someone processing i'll cut their
hair but i feel like being at home i need that time in between to be with my family, and like go
help my kids, tall to them, talk to my husband, umm a lot of times i don't eat there are some
days i work 12-8 and can’t eat till im done, so it's important to have that time while processing
instead of fitting in another client. Umm if i was in a salon, when i was in a salon you were
usually double booked so you'd have a color come in and then you'd have a haircut come in or
have another color come in and start on them while they're finished processing. So it's very
different, then at home, like if i wanted more p[eople i would just open another day.
Me: I didn’t know that about a salon, like how they double book you and everything

Hollie: Ya, ya umm depending upon on like in one salon i worked at they had umm a
receptionist would go around and sweep up the hair umm wash the color bowls things like that,
so she would be everyone's kinda assistant and she got paid an hourly wage and we expected
to give her a portion of our tip, and so umm it made it easier to work clients in between each
other but ya sometimes it's not the best i mean I don't know i, i don't if i ever really, have I ever
done you and your sister at the same time?

Me: Umm ya like when we first started going to you mmhmm ya you did

Hollie: Ya so like i try not to do that too often unless it's like sisters on family members or friends
or somebody coming together that you don’t mind if you sit there and just talk for a bit cause
sometimes it doesn’t go as planned

Me: Ya umm ya, AI just lost my train of thought haha sorry, umm when I first went from brown to
blonde it took like all day, i felt so bad, like you were on your feet the entire time *hollie: haha*
like oh it was a long process

Hollie: well that's the thing too like umm someone can go on there and say I just want to go
blonde and i've learned over the years, like sometimes i'm good at it and sometimes I don’t and
i'm like crap I try to text and find out what you’re wanting to do like are we gonna weave the
whole head we gonna ya know, like I had a girl come in a couple weeks ago she was a new
client and she was coming over and so I texted her and said hey what are you planning on
doing and shes like I just want to go blonde and i'm like okay, umm what are we, uh oh I said
what you want to do like an all over and she's like just all over weave and I’m like okay umm is
your hair long or thick, thin like what's it like and she said it's pretty long and kinda thick I think
and so she wanted to know how much it would be and so I quoted and told her it would be
between here and here well she came in and I kid you not, her hair was down to her butt and
like I had to grab both of my hands and make it into a pony like it was so thick so thick I couldn't
even, and she came at like 5 oclock, and so like ok this is the deal, this is how long its gonna
take to do your whole head if you want me to weave it pot it all in foils cause its so long so like
not only am I painting the roots im painting all the way down and wrapping it all the way up and
so After we talked about it, and that's another important thing the consultations I think a lot of
times people are gonna know what I’m talking about hand they're like h ya totally like when you
got your hair Like when you got your hair done I totally knew that it was gonna take all day you
on the other hand probably didn’t, I did and I need to be better at that kind of stuff but I feel like
umm just the you can’t that’s the thing is trying to find a typical day like there’s a lot of times that
I have to that I have to call and text and be like OK I’m going to be like 10 minutes late or I’m
running behind like that’s my biggest pet peeve to go to the doctor and and be like are they
going to be on time and they’re like totally they’re going to be on time and then like an hour later
and I’m like all you have to say is they’re behind and I’ll be much happier about it so I try to
make sure that my clients understand that I’m like so sorry crap happens *mhm* A person came
in with a crap ton of hair I put in the behind a little bit and so you can totally stop me if I go off on
another tangent but

Me: oh no it’s totally fine don’t worry about it I go off on tangents all time haha, Ya umm so it’s
just kinda like depending on your day anything change because of what people want and
everything

Hollie: ya mhm

Me: alright so then what do you like most about your job?

Hollie: what do I like most umm I like the variation I like that it’s the same job but every day it’s
not the same old crap that I always do like even if I did three hair colors right in a row they’re not
all the same *ya* everybody’s hair is different everybody’s feels different it process is different
and I just have very few clients
That I don’t have to put any toner on after we do have a blonde it just looks amazing while
everyone else has to have a toner. Tessa always tells me like mom you have like 10 different
jobs and I’m like oh yeah and she’s like you do hair you do lashes you do eyebrows you do
Home Depot and she names all these things like all my cosmetology like each individual service
a different job and to look at it like that and I’m like you know what I’ve never Im never bored of
my job even if I’m i’m like I don’t wanna work today you know cause it work but it’s like fun for
me and I get to talk and it’s work

Me: ya I totally get that! That’s how everyone feels

Hollie: right it’s like I tell Will all the time I just wanna quit and he’s like why it’s not that I don’t
like it I just don’t wanna work anymore, you know, but for me it’s the fact that that is very so
much and so I’m never at like never gets old

Me: ya see that’s why I’m so excited about doing all the different things it’s like every day every
day

Hollie: ya

Me: not having to do the same things every day, alright so now what do you like least about
doing hair

Hollie: umm I think I like least about it probably two things and I’ll name them just in case I forget
them when I’m done I am I hate the thing that makes me feel the worst is when I know in my
heart and my brain that’s something is supposed to work like someone comes in with a certain
hair color and we need to get something different and I mix up the coloring and I do what I know
is supposed to be done right and then it doesn’t work and I have to fix that it like wears on my
self-esteem when the quality and ability that I have to do my job there’s been a couple times
over the years I’ve thought I’m done I suck at this I can’t do it anymore I don’t know what I’m
doing and so many times and then also at the same time I get three or four more clients I’m like
OK well maybe I do you know what I’m doing and it’s like that one client out of 10 that makes
me question my ability and it’s not necessarily them as it’s their hair *ya* you know it’s not like
they’re the ones being like what the heck don’t you know what you’re doing like I know what I’m
doing and I put a color on their hair in it and it’s not the color it’s supposed to be and that’s when
I start to question my ability the other is I don’t know how to say this I mean cause you could
have high maintenance people that you love like I have high maintenance people and they only
go four weeks in between colorings like like I have them and I love them but when I say I don’t
know what to say it’s OK to be picky it’s OK to go in to go with an idea that you want like when I
tell my husband that I want to do this in the bathroom and I want you to fix it and I want it to look
like this and I have an idea and I explain it to him but he hears something very different than
what I am saying and so for me when someone comes in and shows me a picture and says I
want this it would work a lot better and it’s obviously going to vary because it’s not gonna look
exactly like the picture because he’s doing it but when I convey what I want and show him the
picture he at least has an idea and he did the best he could it’s the same thing and somebody
comes in and has the amount of hair as a five-year-old girl and thin hair and then all of a sudden
they want their hair to look like Jennifer Aniston it’s not gonna turn out the way they want like the
whole beautician not a magician Like I don’t do that kind of crap to people and that’s the part I
hate the worse the expectation, umm the expectations for some people they don’t understand
that there’s a limit that there’s a limit for their hair that’s like super thin, like you won’t be able to
blow dry it every day and flat iron but you don’t want your hair to break I don’t know how to
figure that out you know

Me: ya that would be hard

Hollie: yeah it is hard because when I have to explain it to them and help them understand that
if you’re going to spend money on your hair you also better be spending money on how to take
care of it like the shampoos and conditioners you know, instead of them getting mad and be like
this is ruining my hair I don’t know you say that’s just like the frustrating part people questioning
you and making them feel like it’s your fault And maybe it is but you’re like I know what I’m
doing but that was the hardest thing to overcome because a lot of people will quit in the first
super fast couple months they’ll quit because you spend the last part of hair school on the floor
taking clients and so you’re on the books and people calling taking an appointment with you well
you’re not always Busy well other people are. But like you spend months in school and you’re
just waiting and then once you get to a salon and whether it’s a walk-in salon or where it’s a
train you’re at a private salon either way you’re waiting and twiddling your thumbs and
sometimes you’re making minimum-wage and you didn’t get any clients that day and then
people get very very discouraged and be like I can’t do this and when you finally do get clients
and they tell you that you did a horrible job and they want someone to fix it, those are some
hard things that you have to have tough skin with

Me: I feel like when they sat and possible expectations for someone and you’re like I don’t know
how to do that that’s probably the most thing that I’m scared of and struggle with the most
Hollie: yeah I know it is when I was in the salon I watched like 1 to 3 girls come in and only
lasted a couple months and I know for a fact that two of them don’t do hair because of how
discouraged they were actually no three they just were like I’m not cut out for this they went
through all the hair school paid the money put in time and then they were like screw it I can’t do
it

Me: that’s like so hard especially to watch because you know these girls and you know they can
do it and they’re like nope I’m quitting

Hollie: it’s OK if someone thinks you suck then you just say well sorry about that go to someone
else you know and not feel really guilty about it and not feeling bad also about not giving them a
refund like you can give them Like half back but you still need some of that for supplies because
that’s your whole money from the day and so you just have to get tough skin and be like you
know what it is what it is and if you need to go to someone else that’s what you need to do

Me: ya like you can go find someone else to do like and I’ll just have to be OK with that

Hollie: yep like I do my best and if my best isn’t enough for you sorry you can go find someone
else

Me: ya that’s how you would have to be, but umm is there something that surprised you when
you first started?

Hollie: I know I shouldn’t be surprised but I feel like working in a salon with a bunch of other
women was really hard it was really hard because you have four people on one side of the
salon everyone has their own booth but there’s me and you were kind of attract the clients that
like you but one time I had a really good friend sit next to my chair and I loved her she wasn’t a
member but she was amazing but she swore like a sailor and depending on what client was in
her chair they just dropped F bombs all the time and were swearing and talking about things
that you shouldn’t and I was sitting here with like a really society president sitting in my chair
you know like hahaHaha uhh

Me: yeah I know I totally get that and you’re just sitting there like they didn’t say anything I just
ignore them

Halle: right right and you’re just like oh crap or people can get really catty because they could be
like oh you got one of my clients that I have been working on for forever and then I get really
offended or or it just really catty I didn’t think that grown women could be just like junior high and
high school girls but they are so for me I was like yeah I’m going to work in my home and it’s
been great and I love it

Me: well I’m glad you did I love going to you it’s really the best

Hollie: oh you’re sweet I’m glad I did too it’s one of the Best decisions I’ve made
Me: yeah yep, uhh alrighty so what skills do you think are most important for someone
interested in this

Hollie: skills skills umm you know like all the time I’m like oh you don’t need to be a talker you
don’t need to be you don’t need to be crazy outgoing but at the same time you need to have
really good people skills like my niece she really wanted to do hair but honestly I felt like she
might put people to sleep or or she might fall asleep in the middle of it or ha ha like you have to
be able to talk you have to be able to have good people skills and to know when to say
something and went to require and let them talk like have those good people skills and have
compassion because you become a therapist you hear things you never you would never want
to hear and it’s hard on you like want to call The cops on some people and hide some people
you just hear some stuff and it’s hard but at the same time you have to leave it and your chair

Me: yeah you got to be able to keep that a secret and not tell and not let it affect you

Hollie: Right right but also not letting it weigh on me like some of the things that people told me
in the salon were just heartbreaking and horrifying they would bug me and it would wear on me
and bring me down and over the years I had to realize that I needed to leave their sadness and
bad situation or experience and not keep it with me you have to learn how to have compassion
and show that concern and love but at the same time you’re not a therapist because you know
they will pay you enough to take all of that on and and you have to keep it all confidential like
people tell you things like if I tell anybody about a client I will just be like yo this one client but I
would never ever say their name you know what I mean but half the time Maybe it’s just cause
I’m old but I have so much information that I don’t really remember their stores and chances of
me being able to repeat it to my husband well is like mmm pretty much not gonna happen like
one time I tried and he’s like Hollie that makes no sense and I’m like well I tried i’m like you
know what never mind it’s fine and sometimes all I remember is that I was just totally freaked
out or floored and then I’m like you know whatever

Me: be like yeah moving on

Hollie: but yeah I’ll probably just people skills and the ability to to also not be offended you’ll get
offended but you’ll learn how to get over it

Me: ya like not let it affect you and doubt your capabilities

Hollie: yep totally that’s exactly yet you had to be like whatever it’s fine

Me: what kind of training does your job require?

Hollie: Well when I went to school they required 2000 hours of going to school you clock in like a
job and they track all of the things you do like to the minute but now I believe it’s 1500 hours I
think, somewhere around that I’m not sure and it has tons of bookwork and hands on they don’t
require continuing education but yeah you don’t have to do that with hair it’s good to do it they
used to have shows that you could go and like learn but since Covid and everything they shut
those down but whatever extra stuff you want to do like eyelashes eyebrows you have to
research and find a place that you want to go to. or usually takes about, if you do part time it
takes about two years, but it’s like a job you have to request time off you can’t call in sick too
many times and then once you reach your 2000 hours you you clock out for the last time and
you’re done

Me: oh wow that’s so crazy you learn so much and like it doesn’t seem like a lot but like it is at
the same time it’s just so crazy

Hollie: yeah and I think it’s important to know that just because you start at a certain school
doesn’t mean you have to stay there if it’s not for you you don’t have to finish there like for me I
started at the community college and umm I lasted my first 500 hours and I couldn’t take it
anymore and so I switched to a private school it was called Fransa B and I loved it there the
training was so much better and the way they taught was very much better for me, their focus
was on how to help you make money and so they wanted you to practice your skills and help
you for when you are on your own

Me: I heard technique is also a big deal because if your technique is different than the way
they’re teaching then it’s gonna be a lot harder for you to be able to do what you want them to
do

Hollie: write your mindset community College had a lot older ladies and so are the instructors
and they wanted you to learn a different way the way they were earned like pin curls and finger
waves and spent a lot of time doing it and I wanted you to put the pins in a certain way and
every time they do it their way I left the biggest tiger stripes but when I went to the other school
here’s what you do but find what you works for you and roll with it and when I did that things
changed so you just have to find your fit and style

Me: yeah I have to be able to make sure you like the style you’re using and so that then you’re
able to do it and perfect it and make sure it’s perfect for everyone else to

Hollie: Yeah exactly cause you’re there for a long time with the same people and same teacher
say do you want to make sure you like them

Me: yeah right! What steps would you recommend I take to prepare to enter school and an
actual career and hair?

Hollie: umm research the schools find where you want go there’s there’s a lot of schools now
like Paul Mitchell Taylor Andrews I don’t even know

Me: yeah those are the two that I’ve looked at yeah
Hollie: I mean I know there’s one that called him it’s down in Provo I don’t remember what it’s
called

Me: I know you’re talking about

Hollie: it’s just really expensive, Yeah you don’t really wanna go to like a freaking expensive
place or a strip mall kind of salon you don’t want to go I don’t know I mean you can do what you
want search out the prices and make sure they’re not terrible if someone’s charging way more
that doesn’t mean that they’re better they just think they’re better and that they think they have
more to offer but you get education from wherever you go

Me: yeah totally it’s like the same education and it’s and it’s like super expensive and you learn
the exact same thing so is it really worth it

Hollie: well you see how much they charge at Walmart to get your hair done like wow what are
you using my gold

Me: haha ya seriously

Hollie: it’s just the same thing and you definitely get the bigger schools have more money to pay
their instructors whatever but that doesn’t mean there any better

Me: ya so go to the school you want to go to

Hollie: ya exactly

Me: what has changed in the past couple years, like trends, ways to do different things?

Hollie: well I joked when we went to school we learned how to get rid of regrowth and all of the
sudden having the route look got big and like the regrowth look became something like what the
heck now we have to learn how to use it in the hairstyle so that was really hard like the balayage
and the hombre those types of things like I’ve gone to classes for them but they’re like four
hours and you don’t really need them so just like color applications are the biggest ones that
changed

Me: ya totally!! Like my hair you can definitely see my route since I went from brown to blonde
but it doesn’t look ever too bad because everyone still has that like brown top with like the
blonde bottom so I don’t worry about it that much you know

Hollie: yeah and especially with your hair color it works perfectly with it so people think it’s like
you paid to get that done and it’s actually your real hair
Me: yeah it works great! Has it been like easier or hard to adapt easier to adapt who have
different hair, and hair types and and want different things, and go from one thing to the next,
sorry does that makes sense

Hollie: I think umm obviously I have some clients and come in brown and then they want blonde
and then white purple and then go back to blonde and and you just have to be honest and tell
them this is not gonna happen and this is how much cost you, is it really worth it like I had a gal
the other day who wanted to come and get her hair done and she had this really long thick hair
and she wanted blonde highlights and I couldn’t fit her in, I just told her my schedule and she’s
all can you just put me in on a Friday or Monday and I’m all no I can’t, like if it was something I
really wanted to do I could probably have fit her in but I don’t really wanna do that haha but you
just kind of have to know your limits and know what you are willing to do and sometimes it takes
doing it and realizing oh I am never doing that again

Me: yeah and not being afraid to say I’m not doing that

Hollie: Yeah totally and at the beginning when you’re trying to build your clientele I mean you
have to be a little bit more willing to do stuff so that they keep coming back to you and you need
the experience but sometimes it’s just not worth the drama or pressure that it causes you

Me: what didn’t you know before you got into hair,that you wish someone would’ve told you?

Hollie: umm hmm I don’t know, Will what some thing that I wish someone would’ve told me
about hair before I went into it

Will: The wear and tear of your body

Hollie: ya That it would cause me migraines, it causes you some pain Yep! Makes makes you
have a lot of tension up in your shoulders and neck

Me: what I’ve learned is that peoples feet hurt so bad after the day ends and they have like
blisters

Hollie: oh yeah I totally am I would definitely suggest wearing comfortable shoes that you like
and depending on the person I will go put on high shoes on because I’m sure and I can’t see the
top of their head so I’ll go where I shoes and then by the time I’m done putting color on I have to
go take them off your feet hurt your shoulders hurt your everything hurts

Me: yeah especially after a really long day

Hollie: so ya just The wear and tear on your body

Me: like at the end of the day when you’ve been with a bunch of clients and you barely ate
anything or sat down you’re just done
Hollie: yep exactly

Me: what are some of the early rolls that you did when you first started? Like when you first got
out of school

Hollie: I went to a chain salon and yeah I just went and applied, and you were just apply you
have your interview and you cut guys haircut and I just a regular haircut for a girls and a
women’s color so the salon can see if they want you there or not and then I worked there maybe
only five months because it was up in North Creek and I live down in Wesvalley and I was
getting ready to have Spencer and so I came and worked at a salon in magna and a lot of it was
was sitting and something I didn’t realize was that if your name was on the book you need to be
in the salon and if I saw that my name was on the book at 2 o’clock till 8:00 on a Tuesday and I
saw that I don’t have any clients till 6 o’clock I just wouldn’t go in till 6 o’clock well that morning
people had put more appointments on my name because my book is open and so they call me
and be like are you coming and be I’d I don’t have any till six and they’re like no you have one
now you have one at two and I’m like how do I have one at two and they’re like we scheduled
you. so that didn’t click for me, and so if you didn’t wanna be there you have to block out your
name that’s something that I was like oh shoot definitely not what I thought it was

Me: that’s funny that’s something I would do

Hollie: well now you know!

Me: what was your first job at a salon? Were you like a shampoo girl or were you an actual
hairstylist?

Hollie: yep I was hired right as a hairstylist

Me: oh that’s so cool!

Hollie: ya it was pretty great!

Me: what is your favorite thing to do to hair? like if you could pick anything you wanted to do
with someone’s hair what would it be?

Hollie: hmm probably I don’t know I like to do leaves like it’s kind of like a mindless work but it
could take a long time but for me the time flies, kinda like oh hell yeah you know I’ve just been
braiding your hair for two hours for you no it’s fine

Me: haha ya it’s fine, braiding hair is fun!

Hollie: ya it definitely is! But it’s something that you don’t have to be super challenged and it’s
not something you’re super worried about and you don’t have to worry if you’re going to like
mess up color or not

Me: my biggest fear is that I’m going to accidentally makes like the chemicals or coloring wrong
and almost put on their hair and be like oh no

Hollie: oh don’t worry I totally done that like I mixing a darker and a lighter and to do the roots
and I get them mixed up, and then I don’t remember which one is which so I have to like dump it
out and restart so that super sucks

Me: yeah that would suck losing all that product

Hollie: mhm

Me: what are some of the biggest challenges you face day to day?

Hollie: umm The time, having enough time in thinking I blocked out enough time for someone
and it ends up not being enough time

Me: yeah like if they change up what they wanna do or what they wanted to do takes longer
than you thought

Hollie: or like they’re late or my kids obviously need me for a second and so that throws me off
for than for this one and then the next one and the next one in the next one, it just affects the
time and it just makes it super stressful and making sure you’re not making a mistake

Me: ya time would definitely be hard. But do you think there is a personality that is not well
suited for doing hair?

Hollie: Yeah I wish I could just tell you names so then you could be like oh yeah totally not good
for hair but umm super shy, people pleasers, how would you describe my little sister my sister
would not be doing good at hair how would you describe my sister Will?

Will: non-conversational

Hollie awkward I mean they can’t be super super sarcastic like you can be sarcastic but you
can’t be tactless sarcastic you got to have a certain personality but you can’t be too shy to
intimidated, get offended easily, you won’t ever make it you’ll get offended left and right

Me: ya that wouldn’t end well!

Hollie: no it would not!

Me: That's the personality that I was thinking of too!

Hollie: ya, yep, those definitely aren’t good

Me: how long were you in school for?

Hollie: umm let’s see 1,2,3 *doing math in head* umm. Why can’t I think, Okay 2001, 2000 I
don’t even know like most the time I went part time and then at the end I went full time, so let’s
see 22 months

Me: OK that’s not too bad just a little under two years

Hollie: ya because I ended up going full-time at the end for four months and I went on Saturdays

Me: that’s not too bad because there are some people who go over it for two years

Hollie: oh ya for sure, And now would be less because they’ve lowered the amount of hours that
you have to do

Me: yes so now it would be less. What would be the biggest reward from this job? In your
opinion

Hollie: Give me an Opportunity to be with people that you may not otherwise interact with like
I’m in contact with people I went to elementary school with, Junior high and high school from
doing their hair I get to see them and other people and people are like oh wow you’re still in
contact with them and I’m like yeah I do their hair. I get to spend time with my mom that my
siblings don’t get to have because I get to do her hair

Me: yeah that’s awesome you have like that special bond because you do her hair

Hollie: mhm and I get to do my grandma‘s hair also well my grandma and my grandpa like I got
to do their hair and then when they pass I did it for the funeral so that was cool and I got to
spend that time with them, so yeah just the average unities and experiences I get to have with
people it just gives me that ability to know I spend time with my mom, but like she would get her
hair done all the time and then now we just let it go natural and so we don’t do her hair that
much but now she gets her eyelashes done and I honestly feel like she only gets her eyelashes
done because she still wants to come see me.

Me: awe ya that’s awesome!

Hollie: yeah and then I get to see the joy that people that a hair color does to them like I get to
see them sit in my chair and whip their hair around and ends to see the joy in their eyes and so
that’s awesome instead of being like oh OK thanks bye! Like uhh act a little bit excited
Me: yeah I just this a little bit I just wanna see a little excitement

Hollie: yeah so that’s super awesome

Me: yeah I’m so excited like the smiles and all of like the excitement

Hollie: mhm ya it’s great!!

Me: ya it sounds amazing! So how long did it take you to get that salon job?

Hollie: Super fast like I Applied there before I graduated and so she contacted me and was like
well if you pass your test you when you’re done you can come and start and so when I
graduated I had a job right away

Me: oh that’s super cool!

Hollie: ya!

Me: all right, what is the biggest challenge that you faced in all the years that you’ve done hair?

Hollie: I am I’ve got to say in like the earlier years it was really it was a lot you’re not getting paid
every time you work it’s like once once a week or twice a month but so budgeting having money
and having money to buy product because like one day you could have some and then the next
it’s gone, and so it’s like oh sorry honey I have to go spend our grocery money so that I can get
money for their color, so replenishing product and stuff like that and making it so that do you
know way to budget your money and how to spend it right and be responsible with it

Me: we’re almost done sorry I’ve kept you a long time

Hollie: oh no you’re all good don’t even worry!

Me: ok so I have two more questions for you and then we’re all done.

Hollie: OK cool

Me: So when you first started what was your end goal like where could you see yourself in like
10 to 5 years?

Hollie: mmm I feel like maybe where I’m at right now like I’ve always wanted to be home yeah I
never had aspirations of opening my own salon or like a big salon and like have a bunch of
hairstylist under me yeah I know that wasn’t something I wanted

Me: you’re like ya no it wasn’t for me!

Hollie: mmhm ya like right where I’m at like I’m not in a basement along time ago I wanted to
have a separate little thing on the side of the house like a little garage or or you know something
separate but it is what it is like this is great and I like it sometimes other times I go crazy, when
dogs and kids are bugging me but it is what it is

Me: yeah that’s exactly what I want to I want just like a little home salon like you have, And how
you do everything from like hair eyelashes eyebrows that’s what I would want to do

Hollie: ya it really is the best!!

Me: ya ok! Last question! What advice would you give me for going into hair?

Hollie: hmm umm is to just have fun! Umm because it’s hard it’s long hours sometimes umm
you’re with a bunch of gals and dudes and you’re not always gonna get along with them
especially in school but just have fun and try not to remember all the bad as bad things and
learn from them and thrive off the good! And just make friends cause you’ll need them! And be
resilient! And not be like oh my gosh I suck at this and don’t take things too personally, cause
like I said if they don’t like it they can go find someone new!

Me: ya they’ll be fine!

Hollie: right! Like it’s easier said than done! Like I know it’s really hard but in the beginning it’ll
be the hardest but where I’m like now I just am kinda like ehh, my clients are still important but I
can’t let that stop me! And make me sad or discouraged me or otherwise I wouldn’t have lasted
long

Me: umm but thank you so much for doing this! I appreciate you so much! And am so grateful
for letting me interview you!

Hollie: oh ya anytime!

Me! Literally thanks so much! I learned so much! Thank you!!

Hollie: you’re so welcome!! You will be amazing!

Me! Oh thank you!! You’re the best!!

Hollie: ok well you have a great day!

Me: You too! I’ll talk to you later!!

Hollie: ya I’ll see you later!