Re: no spark

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Post by Dan1985 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:16 am

You have the 1986 SEi, which is almost Idential to the 1985 LTD, different color. Read
on, this may be of use to you. You have under the trunk,
your fuel injection control CFI computer, which does many things. It for one sends a
signal for the spark for each bank 1&3, 2&4 at the proper time. It needs to know
where the crank is for these signals. It comes from the Crank position (Ns) sensor
behind the timing belts, next to the crank pulley. These are know to go bad, I just
experienced this on a LTD I just purchased that has a spark problem. If no signal from
the Ns sensor, you will get NO SPARK at the plugs.
First try to start the bike, if it does and then dies, BEFORE YOU TURN THE KEY OFF,
look under the trunk at the left hand side of the computer, look to see if any LEDs are
on. From Left to Right they are labeled (3-2-1-0-W), If 3 & 0 are flashing AND W is
solid, the LED's are telling you the Ns sensor (crank Position sensor) at the crank
pulley is bad. NOTE: the 3 & possibly 2 LED may be hidden with the mounting bracket.
Look in your GL1200 LTD supplement Manual, PG 10-6, you will find the chart, that
little computer has a mind of its own, USE IT to your advantage. Page 10-27 will tell
you how to check the sensor. The resistance measurement should be 297-363 ohms, if
not, bad luck. I removed my timing belt covers, plus the radiator to get to the Ns
sensor, I used a heat gun to heat the sensor just a little bit, I had an Ohm meter
connected to the two wires up at the connector shown in the book, just in front of
the voltage regulator, look you will see the white connector with two wires.
Disconnect this connector
to check your resistance. As I gave the sensor a little heat, the ohm meter showed me
an open circuit, lost its reading. BINGO, BAD Sensor, thats why
the bike ran for a few minutes then died. You need a new sensor.
Now that you may have zeroed in on your problem, more bad and possibly good news.
The sensor (Ns) (30300-MG9-951) is now longer available from Honda, OBSOLETE. I ran
a dealer check for the part, no luck on a new replacement. BUT, A dealer in
Hendersonville, NC / Shroaders Honda (Tele: (828)693-4101 will repair yours with a
substitue sensor. Your will need to send your sensor with wire harness to them, cost
$150 Plus S/H, vs the original around $50. OUCH
Your other option is to get one off Ebay, Which very seldom come up for action,
sellers let it go with a complete running engine. I see one on auction at $175 USED at
the present. I have sent mine to Shroaders, for a new replacement. They claim they
have been doing this for about a year with no problems with the substitue, so they
claim. ??? Mine is due back this week around Friday, I hope.
This is my 3rd 1985 LTD, I enjoy picking them up giving them new life and turning
them around, with a little profit in my pocket. This and the 86SEi
are in my book, a great choice in an older very reliable bike well ahead of its time.
HOW EVER certin parts are getting scare and hard to get at times. Especially the
sensors. I have found most of the Goldwing electrical components are very rugged,
but they do fail at times.
I also have a 1998 SE, which is also a great rider for long distance, BUT I DO MISS THE
FUEL INJECTION, along with the lighter bike of around 100+ lbs. 
From Canby, OR / a retired daily rider, 12 months, rain or shine, hot or cold, night or
day, but I will not put chains or studed tires on for that suicide ride. Other wise, I am
grounded when snow and Ice are present, which may only be a couple weeks in the
winter, in the Willamette Valley here in Oregon.

Hope this helps solve your problem, or at least zero in on it.

If I can be of further help let me know.