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SETUP:

THE SYSTEM: TIME-FRAME 15


We will wait for the LONDON to open. After it opens we will look for trades AWAY from
the 200 EMA. There are more than one setup. But for the beginners of this system, please
practice your eyes for this one setup and later I will elaborate on the other setups .Before
you take a trade the price should close below the 10EMA for short and above 10EMA for
long.
MONEY MANAGEMENT
SL is 20 Pips TP is up to a trader you may let it run till the TDI crosses back, or you may
close at 1:1 up to you. As many other system even this has failure at very high volatile times.
Please demo it demo it demo it, till you become consistent with this strategy. I move my stop
to BE after 12 pips. I don’t want to give the pips back the market what's in my pocket. Never
risk more than 2 % on a single trade.

This will be very easy if you already trading using TDI. For this setup the TDI GREEN should
cross the Yellow line. Please read Dean Malone TDI usage guide for more information on TDI.
Later we shall talk about re entries and other setups later coz it will confuse all the
newbie's. See below for the chart attached

INDICATORS USED:
1)200 EMA ( 1HR 50EMA)
2)800 EMA ( 4HR 50 EMA)
3) 10EMA
4)Round number indicator
5)Trading Time Indicator

This is a reentry trade the signal was for sell coz the price was below the 200ema and the
price was also bouncing off the Round number level..it was hesitating to break that level..and
as expected it finally broke down.

I trade just 2 currencies EU and GU i don't even look at other currency pairs.
I have been trading this method for over a year now. I jumped from one system to another in
my initial stage till I got mentored. Just focus on one system and one setup first. After you
have mastered that setup and practiced it well. It will be a cake walk. Trust me all you have
to do in this business is to wait, wait, wait, till you master it..it doesn't come overnight. I
have spent countless hours of chart time and have read everything I possibly can.

The problem with most of the people here in this business is they don't have anyone to
mentor them. So they simply break the rules and run away from this business. I have my
other business as well (family business). I don't trade all the days of the week since I have
my own business. I can tell, I average about 15 pips on a average per trade. Some trades or
BE very few are losses.

Remember in forex all you need is 10 pips /day...you will be on your way to top, if you
consistently nail 10pips/day.

There is an another setup which i have not yet discussed in this strategy that needs just the
cross of the green on the red which does not need the yellow line cross.

But for the one that we are discussing now..needs the cross of the yellow line..in particular
the green should cross the yellow line and the slope of the yellow should point little
upwards..will update a picture for your clarification. It's hard to explain certain things mate..

Trade man . How much ever I explain if you don't practice this or any other system ...a
trader will 100% fail. Just go through the Dean Malone's
TDI manual you will get some idea about how it works. In that manual, he talks about the
slope of the yellow line (very important)...you can take the cross of the green on the red if
that happens at a critical level under the yellow slope. I have posted the same trade in the
couple of attachments see the slope of the yellow line...it was falling from 68 level. Malone
describes that the yellow line is the moving average of the higher time frame in one of his
videos...just back test...back test back test... One more thing to the last post. Newbie's want
to become rich very quickly so they don't want to break their head with too much
information like EMA's/ RN /level momentum/slope of the MA's and stuff. But trust me
once if you practice these things it will only take seconds for you to identify a good setup...

For all the brothers out there...forex is the easiest way to make tons of dollars if you know
what you're doing. Knowing is only the first part....if you keep practicing...you will
start FEELING the rhythm of the market in second...you will take if it tells you to or you will
walk away... just take a look at this picture....

One more request. Please, please, please, don't even think of going on live till you back test
this. Just do the back testing for the last month Feb. You will know how many pips u would
have made. Test only from London open to the 2 hours after the US opens. That all.
Remember this very important..

According to the TDI we don't take short trades near the 32 level and we don't go long at
the 68 level. If u notice the in the above picture the green and red has crossed above the
yellow line.

Folks I hate posting charts. It's such a pain at the wrong place. But picture speaks more
than words. So posting this one for 2nd march...

Here the price was bouncing off of the RN. After the London open the buyers tried to push
the price up but couldn't sustain and the it was a free fall after that. Notice on most of the
market open there will a fake move, that is why we have the rule setup for no shorts above
200 EMA and no longs below 200EMA...

Coz of this rule sometimes you might lose few trades but it's ok...you will have losing days in
forex. Coz we are just humans and we make mistakes.
Another setup on 29feb ...it was right after the US open. I was not around when this
happened. Didn't take any trades on that day...it was ranging...no big momentum till the US
opened.

folks you may read about RANDY CANDLES as well


note: for higher timeframes traders. Take only the cross below the yellow
line for shorts and above for the long. I have attached a pic. Works really
well on 4hr chart

The cross has occurred on the yellow line..it has several supporting factors

1)it was a double top.

2)bouncing off of a RN.

3)the price did not go even 1pip above the previous high.

4)momemtum etc.

So in this case with all the supporting factors you can validate this trade. However not every
trade will be a winner. It's up to a trader to analyze what the market is telling at that
particular time.

Mate there is no 100% system. You need to practice, practice and practice in order to see
these trades forming.

I know people who have 6 yrs experience and still don't make a penny. And I know newbie's
who are making money. It's all up to a trader buddy. There are lot of systems here in forex
factory that work. It's a valuable source of information
price below 200ema

session London

I took a total of 34 pips on this one. Hope someone took it. Guys don't break your head with
so many setups and confirmation. This is the simplest system i have been using. If it works
for you start posting charts and it shall improve all the newbie's. They will learn after
learning teach others just don't take it away with you. Give it back to the people. If you
trading just one pair like me, you will not get trades quite often some days it will be against
the rules. Ignore those days

Don't keep watching the charts always. What I do is i watch movies while trading. Remember
movie is more important than trading. Movie needs constant watching of the screen but not
charts. My way of trading up to you.

Is this a correct entry from the 28th Feb on London open Loveevery1 or was there
something else that i could of done to avoid a trade like this in the future, yours and anyone
comments are welcome.

The TDI yellow line looks flat and the TDI green line is showing divergence
with price. I would avoid this signal.
oh ok..just came back and saw it was breakeven trade. Can't help we just have to accept days
like these. It did go for 15 pips but tp was over 25 pips.
Hi loveevery1,this is the way I read this trade. Not sure if I should have entered on the
earlier candle, but waited for the cross to be confirmed. Realize they can't all be winners.

ok...good day everyone...


I took this trade netted 28 pips. People this system works. All you need is patience. I knew
for certain that the price will shoot up above the 200 EMA today. Just came back it hit the
target. I should have squeezed more in this trade. But I am just another human being with
emotions so did not set a higher TP coz of yesterdays BE.....can't...

I know lot of people here in forex factory . The so called gurus say you should not trade with
emotions. I think they are missing the point here. If you "DONT HAVE EMOTIONS,YOU
ARE NOT A HUMAN BEING. HUMANS WILL HAVE EMOTIONS AND THAT'S WHAT
MAKES THEM HUMANS"
It's ok to trade with emotions. Just my quote. Forgive me if it's against your beliefs guys.

picking pips. You should have entered on the candle that you have drawn the line. Coz the
TDI cross occurred on the candle before that. So opening of that candle should have given
you +15 pips. This is why I say back test, back test, back test. The you need to have eyes to
read the TDI signal...i still back test on weekends the entire weeks data. So don't stop.
Just take a look at this chart. The distance between the 2 EMA's as wide over 100 pips. In
this case you may trade between them. Simple reason the price has enough space between
them to move.
For someone starting out always try to trade away from these EMA's.

You spotted it right. I have marked the entries. If you had entered at the right marked.
This is what i call bounce entry. You simply would have made 35 pips now. Unfortunately i
wasn't at my desk to trade that. I miss it..
The first white candle did not close above the 200ema. What might happen is the price could
have bounced off that level very easily. The second white candle closed above the 200ema.
But the size of the candle is too large and it was very close to the RN. So to me this is not a
good setup. But if you had risked you would have still made +30...

We are attracted to all the NEW things that we see in this world. We like them on the first
day. Second day we don't handle them we just see. Third day we don't see it. Fourth day we
get irritated with it, philosophy of life.

Coming to the point. When a newbie sees a system. He feels that this is the strategy that he
has been waiting for all this life. He is fully attracted to it on the first day and eventually he
gets tired of it and even without experimenting it fully. He moves on to another NEW system
posted in forex factory or any other forum. These newbie's will take ages to learn forex or
they might learn at all. This is what i have learnt in my life and in this industry

Guys just focus and practice, practice and practice. You will be on top I assure you that. It
will take at least 2-3 months for newbie's to see these trades happening. Just watch closely
when you back test, good luck
Any good?

EU 15M, price below the 200ma, HA bar closed below the 10ma, green and red crossed
yellow.

RN right below did u see that?. No big movement in EU today, mate.

Just posting few charts jus to show you what bounce is not according to the rules. Just
the bounce trades. On Higher TF
I don't trade during this time mate. The market rarely moves at this time. You can wait for
the candles crossover below yellow. Be careful at this TIME trading mate. I am happy you
dint take that trade didubai. Look at that now. Anything can happen when the price is around
the 200EMA. Just look at the number of times it has bounced off the 200 EMA after the
price reaches to the other side of the 200 EMA. This will tell if the price is going to go
through the 200 EMA or its going to get rejected.

I have another strategy which is based on 200EMA i have discussed that as yet. Will do
when every1 starts making money with this one first. Good luck to you for to day's trading.
You got this setup in day mate, re entry is one of the key features of this strategy.1.3093
was on dot. Mate..but we just have to careful with this coz it's at the 32 level. We can go for
it only if the momentum allows. In this case it was solid entry since there was a inverted
hammer on the 4hr, so the higher timeframe is yelling SELL ME....it was indeed a good entry.

I will post the same chart with explanation. See the number of times the price has bounced
off the RN. And it finally closed below the RN with the good rejection on from 200ema. And
it was a cross of the TDI as well.
So this was a by the book trade. I hope someone took it..

The moving average is the dynamic support and resistance. What is this supposed to
mean?

On every frame. The 50EMA and 200EMA is well respected. If you see when the price
approaches say 200EMA, just back and check for the PPA (Previous Price Action). The price
would have bounced off that level in the past.

PPA is nothing but the SUPPLY and DEMAND. When the DEMAND exceeds supply the value
of a commodity will go UP and when the SUPPLY exceeds DEMAND the value of a commodity
will go DOWN

So if you trade towards the EMA, you will be buying when traders are going to sell or exit,
and you will be selling when the traders are wanting to buy...
always trade away from EMA's....

And sometimes it will breakthrough when the demand or supply exceeds each other. But we
just can't risk our hard earned money I know how much I have suffered in this business
doing all sorts of dumb thing in the past.

So be very careful. It's money guys. And you know what money means. It's not just paper.
It's your family. Your dignity in the society. Your respect. Your love for everyone...
Ok...here we go again..I got a PM asking me how i trade the 4hr chart.

Ok, Steve this is how i look the 4hr chart.


I just see one loser for the last 2 1/2 months. I have marked from the 31 of January till
today.
The trades were taken on the following scenario
a) You go long when the TDI crosses or bounces off above the yellow line or crosses or
bounces on the yellow line...
b)vise versa for short trade.
This system is not does take all the crosses, very important.
The only drawback is PATIENCE, and I feel that's an advantage for someone who doesn't
have enough time.
If that was your entry, as you said it was a late entry. And on top of that, if you see
yesterday in Gu the price is in between the 800EMA and 200EMA, we even talked about how
the price would bounce between them. Last Friday did not trade coz of them. Remember, be
careful with these days..
It would have been a good trade if 800ema was not there. Coz it's bouncing off the RN
which is good sign. Nice buy signal. It's ok to have these days. It keeps us in control.

Would this be a valid trade?


Price below the 800 and 200 EMA, HA closed below the 10 EMA, green crossed red and
yellow on TDI.

Always wait for the cross below the Yellow that's what is very safe. Do not, do not do not,
risk your hard earned money like that, mate.
I wish at least the cross or the bounce occurred close to the yellow line. It did not in this
case.
This type of trading that you just did requires extreme forex skills. Like seeing S&R levels in
particular. It's always safe for newbie's to look for signals under the yellow line not the
cross of that...as Dean Malone does.

I'm going post few particular setups based on TDI...look only for these setups. Wait till you
get it. Will post in few minutes..

"Not this one", why, because green crossed red before yellow?
"This cross", because green crossed yellow and then red? yes...
Hello mate. Just take a look at it. The SL is usually 50 pips and same with the TP.

Mate, this is how it starts. Forex is all about maintaining. Even a dumb person can buy and
sell in the market. But sustain what u have made is what is hard in this business. Forex is the
only business where u have 50% chance of putting the right trade even without knowing what
forex is...there is no business in this world like this one.

For 4hr chart, I don't use 200EMA. Of course if you put 200EMA. You can take rejects of
that. What matters is the yellow line. Take all the sell crosses below the yellow and same for
the buy. Like i have explained in the post.

Forex will take 2-3 years if you are very hard working I mean spending 15-16hours a day
looking at charts for 3 years. After that you will master everything and it will become a cake
walk for you. You won't spend more than 15min in a day to analyze the charts.

For now...take only 1% risk and never more than that. You will get the hang of it. I remember
my days when I used to put buy and sell trades for no reason. It happens. Do what you will do
on the real account in demo account.
just the TDI examples...if all the other rules are met on the chart..just take these types of
crosses

hi Davlo...sorry mate..i thought you were referring to EU. But still on the AU chart the cross
occurred very far from the yellow line. Not like the way i have described. Refer to the
usdchf chart cross of the green and yellow near the yellow line. And compare yours.

This is how it look on 1HR


how many of you took this....this was a confirmed trade folks...

here is the chart for you mate...don't ask me anything about this chart...
I'm posting these charts to give clues to all the newbie's that everyone can earn money
through forex and in any business provided they are dedicated.
What are you referring to when you say PPA?

This is what i mean!

i did not see this divergence on 1HR chart...somehow my mind said it will from 4hr...it went
exactly 52 pips from where i took the trade and its bouncing off now..

This is how i look at the chart. It has very high probability to break that support line. The
price has touched the yellow line twice and has bounced twice and the second touch did not
reach the previous high(yellow line).
The price has hit the bottom red line 3 times recently, it was trying to break that level 3
times. It's trying to break that level. Nothing is 100% sure in forex, one news can change the
whole story. But if that doesn't happen this is what the chart is telling me. Let's watch in
the coming days. I think you guys are paying more attention to the TDI than Chart. First see
what's on the chart folks, then look at the TDI and confirm you entry with the TDI. Not the
other way around.

This is why most of the traders get killed. Don't do that mistake people.

Now look at the highlighted blue area. As soon as the price reaches that area, it bounced off
in just one or two candles.

Now see the yellow area, look at the consolidation. Traders want to move the price down.
There are no heavy buyers out there, and its ranging. See the number of indecision candles
standing there without knowing where to go.

As a trader we need to look at these things. This is how we learn. This is what is price action,
pattern, minds of the people...

Look at the orange arrow, even this is possible, nothing is 100% sure in forex. These are my
thinking's and i might be wrong. But it works most of the time.

IN Preparation:

1)200ema strategy
2)Counter trend entries
3)Trading in between the lines.

Preparing is a hectic job mate. It takes lot of time and patience. I'm posting these charts on
traders request. If you learn it yourself it's better or I have to post these charts and
explain. I have few pictures saved to my desktop I will share it will you guys soon.. In the
mean time...just see it yourself why these trades work. I'm posting well in advance what the
price is going to do most of the days. Just see for yourself why or how i say it. I gauge from
the HTF.

PATIENCE PAYS...
Ok folks like I said yesterday. I took the trade on AU. Took 40 pips, from last night. I'm
posting the chart here for your assessment. Now think how did I know if the price is going to
fall?. What are the supporting reasons?

Counter entries CT
This is the only trade I took today, it can serve as an example of a situation when the green
line crosses red line very close below the yellow line.
I was looking at the candle sticks and 200EMA primarily, TDI served only as a confirmation.

I have been following this system type (Dean Malone) for about 3 years now and there good
are people like Loveevery1 that takes time to bring something different out of it sometimes.

But from my years of study of the system, I found out the following.

A) FOR NEWBIES: the crosses that occurs above. Above or Below the Yellow line (MBL)
have higher probabilities.

B) FOR EXPERIENCED traders: you can take the crosses close to the yellow line and add
more when it bounces.
Hello mate...

1:1 is more than enough to starting mate..on the 15min. 20:20 should work this is what I used
to keep when I started. Practice on demo first then move on to small live account with 100
dollars. Trade only .5-1% risk every trade. Later deposit 200 dollars then 300, and so on.

The reason is, if you have doubled 100$ and after doubling if you invest 1000$, your mind
and eyes are not used to seeing the profit or the loss on the 1000$ account. You will exit a
good trade early or you will not exit a bad trade early. Practice your mind for the numbers. I
still don't take trades more than 3-5 lots. I'm happy with the money i make.

To clarify few things on this thread.

1st setup - Cross of red and green above the yellow in accordance with 200EMA
this setup occurs few times in a month. And it works 90% of the times
positive.

2nd setup CT - Break the 200ema rule everything same

the 2nd setup occurs quite often. But little risky.

This is how we need to start folks. Later do don't have to follow anything other than MM,
you will win most of the times.

For thought: we can't take a penny when we die. Whoever you make money for( sons,
daughters, parents, wife) everyone will forget you in 3 days. They will carry on with their
lives. In our normal lives try to help others as much as you can. Don't cheat on anybody. This
is the credit that we can take when we die.
CT entry in EURUSD in 15m tf. Bagged 34 pips today. Thank you Lovee

It's a reply to the PM i received

Ok mate. I know what you talking about. There are few things I have followed I started with.
A minimum capital(100$). I made lot of losses initially and started gaining I was able to
double this account to 5 times. Here is the trick my friend. Since it's a small account I was
holding the trades for a long time I waited for TP to get hit. When I started making profit I
thought of withdrawing, felt i have achieved something. When I withdrew I was not able to
survive with the money. That money which I made for over a year didn't last for even a
month.
I was so dumb thinking that I have done a great job my taking my account to a new high. I
was able to take it new high coz it was a small account. Any layman will do that. Coz amount
was small. Then I told myself that I need to increase my account size. When I did. I was
peeing on my pants when I saw a small drawdown. I couldn't take it. I was jumping when I
made little profits here and there. There is a saying in my country... " only if you invest
money you can make money" . It struck me real hard. I thought for days about this. I wanted
a bulletproof method or system or strategy. And at last I found out(this is my mind, my
instinct, my love for others, helping nature, no greed no fear attitude). Don't doubt these
natural behavior. Follow it and you will u understand. One simple example is if you love others
you will not cheat on them, if you don't cheat there is no place for greed there is no anger
nor frustration nor fear. I trained only this for over 6 months. Coz I was confident about
the way I read the price action. I have read numerous books on psychology. All my mother
tongue version. One good book was "trading in the zone" excellent English version for
psychology. Coming to the point. You have to invest in order to make money. This is the only
way and it's very hard for us to risk our money ( we humans are so stupid we risk our
precious life with everything possible but we don't want to risk bunch of papers. What crap.
Brother deposit more, I mean your 20% return per month should take care of
your expenses/charity/savings. Per month. Deposit that kind of money. If you don't have it
then wait for the money to grow in 6 months. Do compounding. If you don't have patience do
deposit. One last Advise : we all come to forex to make money. But forex is for someone who
doesn't want to make money. The person who has this attitude will be a KING in forex.
Everyone's will fail in the long Run....how contrary?..

With your permission I'm going to post this in forum so everyone understands. Thanks for
bringing this out from me thanks. Ask me more if you want to know more

Traders Dynamic Index

This hybrid indicator is developed to assist traders in their ability to decipher and monitor
market conditions related to trend direction, market strength, and market volatility.

Even though comprehensive, the T.D.I. is easy to read and use.

Green line = RSI Price Line


Red line = Trade Signal Line
Blue lines = Volatility Band
Yellow line = Market Base Line

Trend Direction - Immediate and Overall

Immediate = Green over Red...price action is moving up. Red over Green...price action is
moving down.

Overall = Yellow line trends up and down generally between the lines 32 & 68. Watch
for Yellow line to bounces off these lines for market reversal. Trade long when price is
above the Yellow line, and trade short when price is below.

Market Strength & Volatility - Immediate and Overall


Immediate:

Green Line is Strong = Steep slope up or down.


Green Line is Weak = Moderate to Flat slope.

Overall:

Blue Lines - When expanding, market is strong and trending. When constricting, market is
weak and in a range. When the Blue lines are extremely tight in a narrow range, expect an
economic announcement or other market condition to spike the market.

Entry conditions

Scalping:
Long = Green over Red, Short = Red over Green
Active:
Long = Green over Red & Yellow lines
Short = Red over Green & Yellow lines

Moderate:
Long = Green over Red, Yellow, & 50 lines
Short = Red over Green, Green below Yellow & 50 line

Exit conditions*
Long = Green crosses below Red
Short = Green crosses above Red

* If Green crosses either Blue lines, consider exiting when the Green line crosses back over
the Blue line.

IMPORTANT: The default settings are well tested and proven. But, you can change the
settings to fit your trading style. Unquote

You will never go ashtray if you read this 100 times

TDI VIDEO

http://www.synergyprotrader.com/video/SP_TDI/SP_TDI.html

For Thought:- I see lot of people asking me how i look at HTF.

Here is how...
1) SUPPORT AND RESISTANCE
2) SUPPLY AND DEMAND
According to me
1) S&R :- According to me S&R is only on smaller timeframes
2) S&D :- supply and demand are from the HTF

So what you see on the LTF is used only to take your profits. This is what i do. And i enter
trades based on HTF S&D from above 4HR TF. This is the mantra.

Let all the living things live blissfully


ok...there was a very nice trade on Eu anyone...100% classic trade

Let me try to answer that. I hope my mentor (PAT) will agree with me on this.
Attached chart is my view of the situation after US opened. For PA to reverse, we need to
see Lower High PA (which is not in this case).
PA just need to pull back because RED TDI had reached limit of 68.
But YELLOW TDI still on the rise.
For easy confirmation, let the RED TDI cross the YELLOW, this 99% sure trade will go to
your favor.

This is CT (Counter Trend), Price is already -120 pips below 200EMA.


I was looking at opportunity for CT.
Set-up (this is the most crucial step)
1) Look at Yellow TDI direction (slope) and soonest it touch 50 line, get ready , and look at
2)Red must be above Yellow
3) Let the green cross RED.
4) PA above 10EMA
5) Donchian (optional) act as Dynamic Support & Resistance.
6) Enter at close of blue candle.

Exit
1) TDI red and Yellow does angle does not show strong momentum
2) RED cross yellow
3) YELLOW TDI show weakness and start to flat.
If you practice to look at TDI and PA, this will become easy, even in most difficult days of
trading.
The reason, I'm sharing this difficult trade is to enable other traders to understand the
nature of TDI in relationship with PA.
Most times people will give "Cherry Picking" example ,which does not represent the real
situation in Forex Trading.
How to watch PA:

Hi Boys,

today I want to Share the simplified (Sempoi) version on looking at Charts using this System.
Attached two EJ Charts for Monday & Tuesday with different Perspective.
Remember, this is not "Cherry Picking" trades, but a "Coconut Picking" trades.
By Mastering " Coconut Picking" trades, you will soon discover "Cheery Picking" trades will be
like walking on Wakalator !
I'm NOT recommending anyone to use this version, but only to analyze how putting "Sempoi"
to you Charts will makes you understand and react accordingly. If you understand the flow
with this Chart, switch back to your regular charts for Demo trades (don't trade with real
Money OK !)
Understand the relationship between PA + 10EMA with TDI (Yellow & Red), will help you
to react accordingly.
The House Rules remains the same , nothing change here. Don't put pressure to already
difficult trade, makes trades simple (Sempoi). Follow the House rules will be on the safe
ground.
I welcome comments and view on ways I'm looking at Chart to understand PA and structures.
Contribution on Views and Comments will be beneficial to new and old traders. Please
contribute to knowledge coz that's noble things to do, and you will find soon PIPS will be
chasing you. (this is my REAL LIFE experience)
Special Love to Loveevery 1 ( actually, I'm curious to know your name ). Just like love, to
earn it, you got to give it. The more love you give, the better will you will received.
Happy trading day & may Pips be with you.

And by the way my name is ARJUN


The TRUTH about indicators. All the indicators work and none of them work. Lot of
discussion on this thread about the indicators.

Folks...even the default Stochastic MACD on the MT4 will work exactly the same way as TDI
does, provided you have practiced your eyes with that particular indicator. Assange's chart
seems to be neat and simple you can use it. Whatever the indicator you are going to
use...practice your eyes. If not none of them work. Cause you don't know how it moves in
relation to the price.
That's all you need to learn. I know TOR uses TRIX cross as an extra confirmation. That's an
excellent indicator developed by cobraforex. It works for lot of people.

I know lot of profitable traders. I have seen their charts...trust me guys every crappy junk
will be there. It will look like a plate of NOODLES. You won't understand a damn of what's
on the chart. It works for them. They are very profitable HOW ?. They brain is use to that
movement.

And there is another category. They just hate indicators. They like naked trading. For them
indicators are nothing but junk on the chart. They just trade NAKED with just plane
candlestick some use moving averages as well.

So the point is...practice with ONE indicator. You can use the default one or the
Assange's /TRIX/any other indicator. I practiced with TDI so I started explaining with
it. I no longer use TDI. It is always minimized. There will be a day when you will throw
all the indicators you have outside the window and you will rely on the POM(Price Of
Moment)
Thank You for a very good & valid question. Please don't ask indy coz I'm amazed with lot of
request from new traders who believe Indy will improved their trading.
Let me illustrate the bigger picture for trading successfully.
First Chart (au), normally posted in this Forum to help new traders to get the feel and
understand of the price movement. In fact, there is TWO CT trades which is not VALID
marked with thick Green line. I've made some explanation notes in the Chart as an answer.
Hope it clarify things.

Now for Bonus answer :

When I trade, Charts I'm using are different than the one I posted. ( See Chart au1) This is
how I trade. I use minimum indicators on charts. I like to keep my chart simple by reading
the candlestick, watching the price action, and drawing resistance lines. In addition, look at
HIGHER Time Frame.
( Sorry Arjun no mean to undermine your effort to help others- but in this forum, I used
indy to help new traders to develop and mature their skill slowly and less painful ways)

The 200 EMA indicator does have an advantage of showing the trader's psychology of what
they feel the currency price should be.

I hope new traders make an effort to learn fundamentals of PA because those are BASIS of
Forex survival. ( Lower HIGH, Higher LOW etc...)Indicators are merely price action translate
into visible form and easy understanding ( but they are all LAG).

It takes years to put indicators away ( just like putting CRUTCHES away for walking). Indy
lagging price to charts. They really are just clouding over the important information, an
indicator that visually represents past price movement is not going to tell you anything that
you can’t already see from knowing how to analyze price action.
Honestly, Arjun has done great works to help others. His method is simple and reliable, but
you will take fewer trade ( but very safe). I like his patience explaining and trading at the
same time. Please, don't ADD new fancy indy to this method. He has done his part, now we
have to do ours but following the correct path, not CORRECTING the path he had laid.

Notice, I eliminate Green TDI, in order new traders to focus at PA rather than TDI. Can
anyone tell me what is the purpose of Green TDI ?. Eventually we all be looking only at PA to
trade, but at the moment Indy stay to guide new traders.

I normally will draw Trend line, look at S & R and Higher Time Frame to get clue, where the
market are going.

Last, my advice to new traders remember that, Forex trading is all about spotting trends,
coming up with a mathematical analogy and calculated risks.

To ARJUN, thanks a million giving me this opportunity to help others. With my Special
Love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yGMJlc-o4-Q#!
TDI uses some of the most powerful indicators such as the RSI as well as other types of
calculations to determine the trend and momentum of the pairs.

This indicator gives you the current situation of the pair you put it on and let you know
whether a bull or bear situation.

This indicator can be used standalone, but it helps that you use other confirming indicators
together with it such as fibos and trend lines EMA's.

Simple trend lines, whether drawn manually or created by moving averages, can be useful in
reducing the role of speculation in analyzing price action.

If, for instance, a moving average of a certain period eg, the 200EMA provides an
insurmountable barrier to the price action for a considerable time, the trader can use it as a
naturally occurring trend line without worrying about the intricacies of technical analysis.

When such a barrier line is invalidated by the price action, the trader can regard this as a
signal for a countertrend move.

Most importantly, the trader must avoid changing his tools constantly or seeking the best
indicator, since this will only cause distraction.
The golden rule of technical analysis is to keep it simple. Even indicators of the same type
are prone to creating conflicting signals, and there’s no reason to expect that false signals
generated by a multitude of indicators can be combined to create a correct signal.

Since we will not know which indicator tells the truth until the price action confirms
it, there’s little to be gained by compounding the uncertainty inherent in our analysis by
adding to the noise in our data with more and more indicators.

Stick around, and learn more. Contribute and participate coz you will grow to become better
Forex Traders in due time.

Salute to Arjun for his kind Effort ! ( Are you from the land of Bollywood ?)

Pat

If you understand the above Charts well, it's going to be easy to understand PA by looking at
the following Chart.
It's the same Chart, but view with HA Candle.
Train you eyes & Brain to look at Signal before taking trades.
Some of the Signal are FALSE. I will post picture on how Forex Traders believing a false
signal and happily participate in the trade
A Repetition and Recap what we have gone thru'.

TDI uses indicators such as the RSI as well as other types of calculations to determine the
trend and momentum of the pairs.
At glance, TDI gives you the current situation of the pair knows whether PA in a bull or bear
situation.
It can be used standalone, it is advised to use other confirming indicators together with it.
Leading indicators such as fibos, trend lines, S & R should do good.

The Indicator Parameters are as follows:

RSI_Period (default = 13) — the period in bars for calculation of RSI.


RSI_Price (default = MODE_CLOSE) — the price type to use in RSI calculation.
Volatility_Band (default = 34) —the parameter for volatility band calculation. (Can be
between 20 and 40. The lower this value is the curvier becomes the band.)
RSI_Price_Line (default = 2) — the period of the first moving average (fast).
RSI_Price_Type (default = MODE_SMA) — the type of the first moving average.
Trade_Signal_Line (default = 7) — the period of the second moving average (slow).
Trade_Signal_Type (default = MODE_SMA) — the type of the second moving average.

Buy

BUY position when:

1. Green line is above red line


2. Both Green and Red line are above Yellow line
3. Yellow line is above 50 (Optional for long term/Must for short-term)

Sell

SELL position when:

1. Red line is above Green line


2. Both Red and Green lines are below Yellow line
3. Yellow line is below 50 (Optional for long term/Must for short-term)

NO trade

1. Do not enter a trade when the Green/Red lines are outside the Blue Line or very near to
it... try to enter the trades as close to the Yellow line as possible.
2. Do not enter trade when the Blue lines (bands) are too narrow as it shows little volatility
in the market.
3. TDI reaches 32 and 68 level
wish to illustrate scenario, where Trade fails.

He has done everything to follow the rules, but the trade fails. To avoid confusion, the
trader will be me.

1. I opened 15 min & 60 min Chart of EA


2. at 0:200 pm I saw slight trend line break in 60 min chart.(touching)
3. Trendline in 15 mins broken @ 0:100 pm.
4. Green TDI Cross RED @ 01:00 pm on 60 mins Chart. Good sign to Short.
5. Yellow TDi is sloping down on 15 mins. ( good sign to short)
6. Price is hoovering just above 200EMA ( in my mind, this sure will drop like bomb)
7. At 2:00pm I saw Green cross RED., Price below 7EMA on 15 mins Chart.
8. Wow, I hot SELL button, smiling & happy.
9. Clock 2:00 pm passed, 3:00pm, passed 4:00pm, passed 5:00 pm, tired and stuck. Shall I
wait ? Shall I stop at loss ( -7-10 pips) ? Nah.... I wait.
10. At 5:15pm, I'm happy, price start to go down, +8 pips, Price goes below 200EMA. Yahooo.
Happy happy.
11. At 5;30 pm, trend reverse?? 30 pips against my trade ??? words came out from my mouth
. "$^&%#$^&"
12. At 5:45 pm. I saw price back down 12 pips. OK , the last moves was to catch traders with
tight SL ( I think, I'm smarter than that)
13. At 6:00pm I was taken out - 30 pips. $*#^$.

Can anyone help me to analyze this trade. I was following all the Rules strictly by the book.
Something wrong with this Forex Market & something wrong with this indicator ! Please
participate coz by helping me you are actually helping yourself.
Can anyone help me to correct the Market & Indicator. But PLEASE don't correct me,
because I follow strictly to the rules and Market & Indicator suck not me.

Thank you for you help.

Your Sincerely
ANGRY & UPSET TRADER

My views: I havent seen the chart.


Psyhological Views
a)NOT ALL SIGNALS WORK:-If all the rules followed then it's a trade that dint work. If all
the trades work then we will be richest in the world. We can create ROBO's to trade for us.

b) UNWILLINGNESS TO QUIT:-The trader has been holding it for a Long time i think for
over 3 hours....it shows his UNWILLINGNESS TO QUIT

C) VERY STUBBORN:- Fixed TP..

D) GREED:- GREED is responsible for all the problems in this world


When I saw this post, I realize that your timing is almost perfect . Great CALL !

I did enter LONG position , but 4 hours earlier ( was stuck and almost taken out by SL
with Brokers hunting SL)

Beside the Indy showing direction for LONG, the Price swing is HL, HH. , assuming price will
shoot straight up. Few hours after enter LONG, word like - If I waited a bit, Should I..... bla
bla bla, hoping I didn't took the trade at that time !!

I must admit , today is extremely difficult to trade and to enter with precision timing is
crucial for success..

In short, i wasn't patience waiting thhe confirmation of signal from Higher time frame.

LESSON LEARNED TODAY : " Wait for Arjun to tell you to enter LONG before hitting the
button
Hello Everyone!

I have next failure setup, which was made approximately 2 hours ago on USD/CAD (dark
circle)... Everything seemed to be good:
- Cross of Green and Red below Yellow
- Yellow was going down
- it was just below 200 EMA
- the market was in a good up down move...

- However the 200 EMA and 800 EMA was quite flat...
- It wasn't London Open...

Although:
- the price action went against me and strengthen USD. Why ?
... Was that because of the fear of EU, Greccen and the run on USD ?
... the data for the CAD was very good in the end of last week.

What has happened. Please help, that case could be very educational for everyone, cause the
setup looked good, isn't it ? Please explain what I did wrong.

1. hello SilverCerber,
first we don't now where the market will go before London open,
And second the RN is a strong support for me look, the price.
If I take a short on this situation I would wait for a clear break of this RN
2. Hi,
Look at the price action of Higher High and Higher Low. So the trend was expecting to
go up. Train our eyes as our master also said. I am trying to attached the chart not
sure if I can do it

3. Just check the previous 14 bars from your trade, PA is too flat, therefore it is
better to wait for big boys (so London open). Also there is a strong USD uptrend in
most pairs. Yes, Friday's CAD data was strong, but if you look at higher TF like daily,
you'll see that price managed to print HH last week above strong 1.0050 SR tough
there wasn't a close above it to confirm. You should also be careful when price is
between 200 and 800 EMAs. But most important clue was flat PA, IMO.

I have another case study for you...


... that's the actual situation on AUD/USD. (White line is for the candle on which I entered
on the market) As we can se:

+ here is a downtrend.
+ impressive S/R on exactly 1.0000 level (can be better?)
+ green crossed red.

- the cross of green and red is high above yellow


- the yellow line is moving upward...
- there is not so much liquidity on the market....

Please, share your opinions and reasons, was it a good trade or not?
how many brother/sisters took these setups...first setup

I took the first leg down after it violated the previous support level, put my TP on the next
support level around 1.607 (this setup with SL and TP was discussed in the chatroom too). I
missed the second leg down, what I'm gonna do next time is I will plot a fibo on the leg that
breaks previous structure and if it retraces to one of the key fibo levels (in this case it was
38.2) and stops I will take another leg down. From there it basically had a free flow down
with no support on it's way. Information ally I was no longer trading.

Now, the key areas I see for potential reversal on this pair is around 1.592 (weak level) and
1.582 (very strong level). Until then I'm a seller only
I'm getting into this new routine that one hour before FO. I open my 2nd mt4 (getting mt5
now, for easier charting) which is on demo and quick analysis on my pairs on H4 time frame.
I'm looking for simple pattern, divergence, key S&R areas this defines whether I'm a seller
or buyer on that specific pair.

Now if I was a pro and had two monitors like tor I would have my 2nd mt4 with h4 charts
open at all time to remind me if I'm looking for buying or selling signals on respective pair.
Since I don't I put it down on a piece of paper and have it in front of me while trading.
From there on I'm sticking to my rules and strategy.

I've seen a significant improvement since I've applied this preparation to my trading plan and
not just blindly following the signals.

As far as news are concerned, I'm looking for something to remind me a time a news release,
some countdown alarm. So I know when to close my trades .
I don't care about the outcome of the news I simply don't trade them.
How much lower can GU go ?
Look at Bigger TF and bring it down to 15 mins.
Carefully understand the break of bigger trend line.

Different view of current PA


# 1531 - Recap of Rules
# 1523 - The Master talk about indicator
# 1565 - Message from Dean Malone. HARD RULE
Please watch Post #1526 video attach on Trading Physcology.

NO trade

1. Do not enter a trade when the Green/Red lines are outside the Blue Line or very near to
it... try to enter the trades as close to the Yellow line as possible.
2. Do not enter trade when the Blue lines (bands) are too narrow as it shows little volatility
in the market.
3. TDI reaches 32 and 68 level

(Since, as I understand it, in a short once the green TDI reaches 32 we would consider
getting out or locking in profit)

YES : if you only Trade Single time frame. eg. TDI green reach 32 on 15 mins Chart, you lock
profit on your short, vice versa for Long on 68 level.

NO : if you use Multiple Time Frame to trade. eg. Some experience traders uses 15
mins and 60 mins time frame. TDI reaches 32 , they lock half position and let the
other half run because the 60 mins TDI has yet to reach 32 level.

I guess what I'm asking is, what if any, are the hard rules for entry at the 32,50,68 lines on
the TDI???

HARD RULES , please Read Post # 1565

P.S. reposting this because my question kinda got buried.

Apology you feel that way. Most of friends here always try our best possible ways to help
other trader in this Thread and answer them asap.

With time and education we can overcome these issues though.

Familiarize yourself with simple and robust " Another Simple System - Time Frame 15 "
trading techniques.

The most important part to remember is that, you stick to this strategy; strategy will take
care of the losses, because it is tested to have positive returns in the end.
There is no magic formula, method, system, mathematical equation or secret indicator in
here to make you Forex Master.

In here, we deal in a business of odss, putting odds in our favor and focusing on the risk.

All of us here will learn to acquire knowledge, patience, planning and good money management
skills to be successful.

There is no Holy Grail that will guarantee returns, but there is a way, a realistic way (shown
by Arjun) to be successful. The sooner you accept this, the better it is for you.

As it is Friday I suggest to be careful! Don't go short until you can leave a solid support
behind you!
Hello folks. I will start discussing how I look at HTF and analyze the chart. There was a
bounce on the 3rd touch of the trend line. How do we know if it's going to bounce off. Look
at those candles(a), it was trying to pierce but could not. We are already expecting a bounce.
These candle confirms it and look at the TDI now...(b). And look at( C). A baby will know what
will happen if the price reaches at this level (c) What is hard in this ? Open your eyes folks.

It's the same chart 15min. The price has touched the RN once before LO and bounced off.
And when LO, the price started to climb up see the bull candle and at the same time look at
TDI. It shows a buy signal. There is a bullish divergence as well.
4 things:-
a) HTF-DEMAND LEVEL
b) RN
c) TDI
d) DIVERGENCE
This is how you need to look at the chart. If you blindly follow the TDI signals you will fail.
Always look for what's happening on the HTF.

Always watch out for the 10EMA rejection. After the market opens this will tell you what is
going on the chart you can go long or short based on that, don't try to save or lose 1 or 2
pips...just go with the flow of the market....do not over think. Trust what you have learnt and
go for it...trust yourself.
Sometimes, we got a shake out by the market for weak holder. This part of forex games.
If you have an entry with proper SL set, you shouldn't fall during the shake out.
chart below to illustrate simple shake out.
Look at the price bouncing off between the lines...you certainly can squeeze some pips
between them. But you should know how the price moves between them. Always look for
rejects. You should learn how to spot a reversal. Sometimes there would be some profit
taking when the price approaches the critical area. It will drop 15 pips. And then continue in
the same direction. You should learn how to spot them. See picture

I personally like to take positions based on the 1 hour chart. However I use the four hour
chart to tell me which way I should be trading.

If the trend is up on the four hour chart, then I will only be looking to go long on the 1 hour
chart, and vice versa if the trend is down.

On the rare occasions when I haven’t stuck to this rule, I have often found that any price
movements on the 1 hour chart have run out of momentum very quickly, and I start kicking
myself for trading against the long term trend.

So the point Arjun want to get across in this thread is that it often pays to use more than
one time frame. By looking at a longer term chart and determining the overall trend, you
can put the odds firmly in your favour by only trading in the same direction as this
trend on your favoured shorter term chart. It’s not essential of course, but it certainly
helps to increase your overall success rate

Think of it as being lost in the forest. It’s easier to find the way out if you know the
direction you’re traveling in.
The macro trend is basically the guide to help traders assess market direction. So it’s going
to be important to study the daily and 4 hour time frame.
Anything below the one hour chart will provide you with information on what the currency is
doing short-term. This is where you may appreciate the value of a trend line or of trading
with MA.
A thirty-minute chart may be the map that offers you more intricate directions. It can
showcase whether an important level has been pierced. It’s perhaps one of the reason drilling
down to smaller frames is crucial.
To see the moves within the trend, the 15-minute chart may be ideal.
If you see something promising in you 15 mins chart, you can tune to hourly chart and see if
you are trading any major trend. Go back to 15-minut chart for a selected entry price.
No matter what your trading strategy is, when you get the signal to enter the market the
higher the TF it happens to be a more reliable signal.

A weekly or daily signal is significantly safer than 1hr or 4hr signal, and as stated before
once you go under 1hr TF you might as well be flipping a coin just trading decisions.
Once you gain experience about what works and what does not work and to develop a plan for
dealing with specific entry and exit rules based on daily and weekly charts, you can look at
charts or even 4hr 1hr charts
Fine tune your entry or exit. However, it is said, it is quite possible to just look at daily
charts or above and consistently profit in the trdings. Taking this path would be very likely,
also less stressful, and also allows you with regular jobs & not worry about minute to minute
market fluctuations.
Always remember, much of the movement that happens the lower TF is just random noise
that does not really tell you anything meaningful.
Already Long EJ. TP R3. Look at the Squeeze !!! Watch out

Now drill this down to smaller time frame, you will see what fib can do, !!!

Look at 60 mins. divergence.

Driil it to 15 mins.

Then you will decide where PA is going.


The concept is same as what Arjun has put and stress many times in this thread.
Practice and train your eyes.

You will make minimum 30 pips with this system, EVERYDAY !


I'm enjoy to help others, as long as they post something for me to comment.

Don't sit and wait for someone to tell you to buy or sell.
If I'm 15 min traders and strictly follow rules set by Arjun .

This is what my trade going to be today.

FIRST. Price above 200EMA !

2nd. Wait for LO open. ( do go for FO Long, )


Draw trend line, breaks, you get out.
Put SL to lowest point ( in this case both SL set at 15 pips Lowest Point)
Draw intermediate trendline (Yellow) and draw Long Term trendline ( Orange).
Trade three times a day make money, already banked +50 pips, with one trade still running
after 3 hours, go outside and play.
Watch the ORANGE Trend line on 15 mins. !!!

I can give you TWO ALERT, if you really want it,


1) Mind Alert
2) Eyes alert. ( through practice and observation).
Because NOT every cross is VALID signal.

If you focus, Chart become readable and easy to understand.


Once, the "weak holder" is shaken out, the Price will continue its journey,
This is typical Games they boys play every day.

Look at this attachment nexst page, when I see this Funny THIN looking Candle trying to say
something to me. The Time now is 4 min to the HOUR !
Lets have some fun in here. Then Money will come to you.
Ok, I've had a few fail trades in the last few days. I think a couple were just bad decisions
on my behalf, as demonstrated in the UC chart attached. Being pretty new, the only reason I
can see is that the red TDI line was now sloping in the direction of the trade.
Can anyone comment? Please be as direct & up front as possible, it's pretty hard to hurt my
feelings

First Ej short at the 200EMA; TDI had made 3 waves down past the red and yellow lines and
went into OS territory (past the blue band which were tight). Price started down twice
before your entry to cross 200 but couldn't with very small candles meaning no volume. Asian
session slow.
Second trade Uchf long with immediate 15m resistance to the left stopped it. Red TDI going
down hurts too. Price came back to the round number before setting up and a entry to go up.
HTF's were with you.
Entry after red TDI flattened would have been 2 winners. After looking at Pat Chikos post, I
can see the importance of the red pointing in direction of trade. Just trying to get my head
around the TDI as well as take note of what is happening with the PA.
I need your help to understand yesterday's UJ.

 Price is above 800 EMA

 RED / Green is pointing down, but the prices keeps going up

 Based on the rules set by LoveE I am unable to understand to go long or short based
on the TDI as its pointing down

I am missing something, your thoughts would be highly appreciated

Take look at this buddy...


Take a look at these charts it's on 4hr and the same trade on the 15mn

Take a look at this one aswell


I shorted right at the red arrow mark. Do your
own analysis why I shorted there, why not right after the yellow arrow. This is what forex is
all about. Most of the newbie's would have shorted after the yellow arrow candle where will
you keep your SL if you had shorted there?.Do your math folks, please learn quick. Time is
precious. I might not be there tomorrow. But there will be people like me to help you guys.
But you guys learn fast. Get it straight inside your head. I will not post trades I take in
advance anymore. That's quite misleading I think.

HaHaHa.....i did wait for the touch of 10ema and it was also supported by RN(very
Important)...watch out...after taking the trades negative or positive just sit and watch the
how the price moves in relation to the MAs..and TDI..
What I saw was D and H4 is not in agreement.
Therefore we must be careful when we take any trade today.
Also US Bank holidays may cause lower liquidity, so who are trading ? your brokers or the
SM?
Who do you look to trade with?

Right now, the way

I look for setup are inspired by Master Arjun (refer to his post):
1. Look for daily, if prev bar close above MA10 the bias is Up and vice versa.
2. Look for H4, if prev bar close above M10 the bias is Up and vice versa.
3. Then look for M15 setup. Errrrr... actually I skip the H1 part and directly waiting for a
setup in M15.
And I also draw S/R area using H4 and longer TF and update them at last once in the start
of the week.
First, inside bars are just one of those narrow range price bars which are view as market
consolidation and we anticipate price to breakout when more market participants join in the
market and liquidity return.

We cannot predict which direction of the breakout. But in trending market, the breakout can
be picked out easier when we use this 10EMA method PA and also TDI in higher TF. Notice I
pick only H4 and D inside bars to trade.
There are different entries - conservative and aggressive.
Conservative entry only when price break the mother bar.
Aggressive entry when price action remain within the mother bar or sometimes within the
inside bar range itself. M15 PA is good for this.

When market is sideway or when trend reach exhaustion, the breakout may not be that
clear. We need to anticipate this and rely more on the use of chart/candlstick patterns with
S&R. Under this situation, we must be prepared to take the opposite breakout when the first
breakout fail. there will be occasion when the second breakout fail and we reverse back to
the first breakout direction. I can safely say 80% of the time the 3rd breakout will
succeed.

But, having said this, it is how we read the PA on M15 that will put us in the market before
the actual breakout itself. Reading the M15 PA using 10/50/200 and 800 EMAs also help put
us in the higher probability direction.
We use smart money management to trade breakouts. Enter al small risk, and only build up to
full positions and add positions when the breakout trade is profitable and BE. You need to
capitalize on the breakouts and ride the trending move.
Learn to stay in the market and don't get out so easily. Take a longer term view of the
market moves.

Today AU is a good example whether market will continue upwards. Remember those S&R I
posted yesterday, Those a historical S&R and also recent D S&R 1.05685 and 1.05775. We
don't pluck from air any price levels to play with. You can see how price play at these two
levels.

Check Daily TF, Check price in relation to 10,50,200 and 800 EMA's. Then check 4Htf for
the same thing. You'll then see how we form bias for the days trades. We then simply go
down to 15MTF and cook the trade according to taste. That means looking for the best
'high' price to sell or the best 'low' price to buy. Some of our entries are very aggressive
based on strong LOGIC. But newbie's have been told how to take safer entries above 10ema.
How is that "...posting your own charts and diverging away from the method discussed on this
thread"????
Here you go. Everything broken down to bits for you. Enjoy.
Hey Wizard(really?? lol!), here are my thoughts on your trade. The same applies to the other
charts you posted. Just keep doing the same thing everyday.
Today. Already long EJ. Multiple positions. Multiple entries. Up 25pips now. Stops already at
BE(+14 on some).
If I'm 15 mins traders and strictly folow. rules set by Arjun .
This is what my trade going to be today.
FIRST. Price above 200EMA !
2nd. Wait for LO open. ( do go for FO Long, )
Draw tendline, breaks, you get out.
Put SL to lowest point ( in this case both SL set at 15 pips Lowest Point)
Draw intermediate trendline (Yellow) and draw Long Term trendline ( Orange).
Trade three times a day make money, already banked +50 pips, with one trade still
runningafter 3 hours, go outside and play.

Watch the ORANGE Trendline on 15 mins. !!!!


This is only one pair. Do be Greedy, just concentrate one pairs, with 15 mins TF, follow all the
rules. EASY>
You do this every day with +30 pips. You do the maths.
Once, the "weak holder" is shaken out, the Price will comtinue its journey,
This is typical Games they boys play every day.
I shorted right at the red arrow mark...do your own analysis why i shorted there why not
right after the yellow arrow...this is what forex is all about...most of the newbies would have
shroted after the yellow arrow candle where will you keep your SL if you had shortd
there?...Do your math folks....please learn quick...time is precious...i might not be there
tomorrow..but there will be people like me to help you guys...but you guys learn fast...get it
straight inside your head....i will not post trades i take in advance anymore..thats quite
misleading i feel

Im sure lot of you guys took it on Friday...this is for newbie's...a nice bounce trade below the
yellow line...
These kind days happen few times a month...this is where most of the experienced traders
lose money...no one is god here..and we cant filter out every trade..but there is a way to
minimize the loss...we have to stop trading after 2 losers.make it a dicipline.i get lot of PMs
saying i was able to slowly build my equity but one bad day i lost everything.
so watch out for these days and keep your money management proper

Good luck today Gibril. Look back in your charts as loveevery1 teaches us to do many times
before trading. See where the 15m signal is given at the yellow tdi; then look at daily, 4h and
1h for candle patterns, RN and where price stopped in the past(support and resistance). This
is the only way to build confidence and faith without paying the price of losing trades which
hurts confidence and builds fear.

You have to win to build confidence and I know no other way to start winning than practice
finding where to push the button from past setups. I got frustrated demo trading and losing
because not prepared. After going back and figuring out where the wins are it became fairly
easy to double a demo account. I felt like a show off posting huge wins on demo and small live
account.

Then start live with the smallest account you can and double it and go from there as
loveevery1 has posted how to do in the past. But as loveevery1 teaches with bigger lots you
don't need bigger pip counts; just take 15-20 out of a trade.

I'm no expert. I've just lost so many times that the frustration and fear got so bad I
stopped and just studied loveevery1's posts. In fact I copied what he says that stands out
for me and put in a word doc. so I can refer back. That took a long time. Then he tells us to
practice, practice, practice. So I did. I studied where price popped and researched what was
going on right before that with SR, RN, HTF's, and last the TDI as loveevery1 teaches. And
it worked.

Repeat. Until you study, and practice, practice, practice probability is you are going to lose.
But work out how to win and this method becomes easy.

I feel a little lost today as I haven't looked much at any chart since waking up an hour ago.
I've read my rules, looked at this thread and saw a nice move down on the Ucad, Eu and Au
which are my 3 trading pairs for now. These three pairs all triggered at nice support and
resistance levels but tdi green crossed red a little further from the yellow line than I like.

I haven't researched what I see today enough to trade this yet. I only trade when I see
green cross red very close to yellow tdi (and even better when green crosses red from same
side of yellow)and yellow has to be sloped down or sideways. So I wait till I get into the
charts to find a almost perfect setup I feel good about. With time I will add more to my
knowledge to enter trades more confidently but am patient for now.

It doesn't matter to me if someone makes pips from a setup I am not ready for. They can
explain what they did but until I am ready to learn it it just doesn't matter. You can't do
everything at once but find one thing you can do and only do that at first is what I believe.

Take a look at these things..print it and keep it in front of your


before you start trading
I started this thread. Initially it was a TDI system, still most of the folks out there think it
as just system trading with TDI....no one knows unless they come inside and check out....

IM not here for PRIDE,FAME,ATTENTION or anything. that's why i have not updated the
first page...my intention is not to attract more people to this thread...and everyone thinking
big about me....and stuff...after all what am i going to do with this FAME,PRIDE?

Nothing stands forever. My intention is to let everyone know what the truth is...FOREX is
just like any other business .I take only 10 pips, doesn't mean i can't take more...coz my
friends here are taking way more than what i take....it depends on what the trader wants.
I'm not saying that I'm the best trader here...most of the good traders don't have time to
post(PAT,ASANGE)they are busy in their own world..they help us whenever they get time...

1 )TDI method
2) Bounce trades
3) ADR entries
4) 10 EMA

Out of all the above I rate the ADR the best type of entry. It works over 95% of the times.
You don't have to be a scientist and try to master every setup. Master one. That will lead
you to 100 setups....
coz everything came from ONE. And one came from nothing, it's all interconnected. Just
master one setup, just one I mean it. That will lead you to MANY.

II want the destiny to bring in people, not advertisements.

Initially it was TDI, then different MA's, then only 10EMA, and I don't want to make it
more naked. 10EMA will give you a visual of what the price is doing now.
I trade EU , GU , AU , EJ and GJ every day.
Those are the pairs I look for trades every day, no other pairs.
I always take 3 to 4 trades, at the very same time when I see setups. Each trade 2% risk.
I only take the trades, if I see those setups happening and not just because they are
correlated.
If I don't see the setup then I don't take the trade on that pair.

today EU , GU , EJ and GJ all had setups at the same time so I had 4 trades running.
I was going to close few trades and BE just before the news but I got caught up in posting
and all TPs hit very, very quick.
That's how I made the 95pips. I could've made much more than that if I allowed the trades
to run but I closed most of the trades at the round numbers.

I traded away from the 200ema on the 15min TF. MY entries were on the 5min TF.
I didn't post charts coz all were 5min trades.

If you look at the 15min TF I see that there are few pairs that had nice candles on the
10EMA before going short

the basics are the most important.


Once we learn the basics then only we can start removing indies and trading a naked chart.
If you see all the charts in the first few 100 pages the TDI was used with PA.
It was discussed in deep detail by Pat , assange and arjun.
They showed us how PA , the 10EMA and TDI flowed together.
Who of us studied these posts and learnt the flow with TDI and PA before removing the
TDI completely.

Why are the noobs trading extremely naked without mastering what was thought in the first
few 100 pages.

ONLY WHEN WE MASTER THE FLOW AND THE BASICS THEN WE ARE ALLOWED TO
REMOVE ALL INDIES.

Who still remembers Arjuns classic setups?


that was giving traders good pips and it still give good pips.

Don't rush guys take your time.


take baby steps and we will all get there.
Don't look at the size of the thread and rush through it.
If we rush through it we will never learn.

This thread is a step by step process. That's why the 1 post will never be updated because
we have to take the steps to get to where we are now.
Many noons will look at the first post and the latest posts and think that the system has
changed
If we take the time to study everything we will see that nothing has changed.
Hi Jordfx, can you tell me why this entry was not good ? 1h pinbar

It simply went against the trend. 200EMA just a few pips below. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Hey buddy, good of you to post your charts and ask questions. Thats the best way to learn.
Not by lurking as so many do. before I answer your question though, why not tell WHY YOU
think thats a good entry? That will help evaluate your thought processes and straighten you
out faster. What do you say? That's definitely one isn't it?

I know that this entry is against 200 ema(against trend) but I have seen on this forum that
some people play like this .I know this for experienced players but i want to now (learn)

in sum : I have to stay away from such entrys ?

Is the only explanation that was wrong entry is : against 200 ema(against trend) , misled me
1h pinbar

you shorted right above the demand zone, plus in an uptrend.


If a newbie can also comment on it, i would say that on H1, if you double check with the TDI
confirmation, the trend is in an up move, and you decided to sell, so besides going against the
200EMA you also went against the PA move.

Ig you checked the H4 10EMA, H1 10 EMA, they were not in accordance, I mean, they were
not all above or all below 10 EMA, including the M15 10EMA, and on top of it you had a BRN
just below.

I am not sure if my thoughts are right, but is what i see from it, I waited for PA crosses
above 10 EMA, (on H1, H4 and M15) and a quick 10 Pips.

imple chart. identify where buying and selling had occurred yesterday. mark it on your chart,
and where you sold. that will give you an answer to your question. if you want to learn that
is...

Is my analysis correct?

no. pros don't do that. that's how typical amateurs would enter.
rephrase my question: where would have large money (banks and institution traders) bought
and sold.

a lot of buying in this case.


right on.

so... he basically shorted where buyers were sitting.


About 10EMA, 50EMA and 200EMA ...and what type of trader are you?

A lot have been posted by members here but ultimately it is you who have to do your own
back-testing and learn the market structure using these 3 moving averages.
We are discussing tradin in the 15M timeframe in this thread. You have to ask yourself this
questions:
Are you a 15M scalper?
Are you a intraday trader?
Are you a weekly short term swing trader?
Until you are know and sure of what type of trader you are, you then decide to trade
that TREND of the MOMENT. This is Price Action trading and not 10EMA and definitely
not moving average trading.

To some traders, making 10~20pips per day sounds easy and is luring, but the fact is making
50 pips is much easier when you know the type of trader you are.

It is a money managerment game and it is not about how many pips you make in one day, or in
one week, or in one month. It is a business to trade the market and make profits with your
hard earned money aka your capital.

Trade Well!
You need to use both eyes and also the third eye which needs more training and develop the
20/20 vision for trading.

With several currency pairs showing huge weekend price gaps, that should be a warning that
it is not a normal or regular market type we are trading.
We threfore look in our arsenal of skills to trade this sort of market type.

GBPUSD still have that huge gap which is not filled yesterday. What is your trading plan for
this pair this week?

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