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Polymath086
27-Dec-20 12:03 PM
Good day famz can we be sharing our trading plan here so we new student with little experience about trading can be using it as an opportunity to form our own trading plan
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Rythien
27-Dec-20 12:03 PM
Hey man let me link 2 templates i know that share here including one i shared
Polymath086
27-Dec-20 12:05 PM
OK mate
I will be expecting
Rythien
27-Dec-20 12:05 PM
https://discord.com/channels/728715235531161611/728715235531161615/773629070004715522
And check the notion template i sent, there a trading plan template insiden
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Rythien And check the notion template i sent, there a trading plan template insiden
fLawed
27-Dec-20 12:19 PM
Great way to start 2021
MEE6
27-Dec-20 12:19 PM
@fLawed advanced to level 7!
Rythien https://discord.com/channels/728715235531161611/728715235531161615/773629070004715522
Polymath086
27-Dec-20 12:24 PM
Good... Thanks
MEE6
27-Dec-20 12:24 PM
@Polymath086 advanced to level 2!
Chief
28-Dec-20 03:41 PM
@R O B E R T O nice setups! Have you been testing this in background along side regular orderblocks?
R O B E R T O
28-Dec-20 08:24 PM
Yessir
jake.
29-Dec-20 01:40 PM
@R O B E R T O it says i dont have access to it
R O B E R T O
29-Dec-20 01:47 PM
try now
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Marci 🇮🇹
29-Dec-20 11:43 PM
Marci’s trading plan
1) trade ONLY IF 100% feeling healthy from the morning OR no trading. If feeling sick or not well, paper trade or demo ONLY or take a day off.
No distractions
No other thoughts
No freestyle
No improvisation
5) Map:
Daily bias
4h and 1h bias
15-5m refinement
1m execution
6) map ALL 1m order blocks across 20pips above and under current price, mark the 50% with a line and write on if it is tradable / not tradable
Mat.P.Bay
29-Dec-20 11:58 PM
This REALLY helped a lot! Thankyou!
@Marci 🇮🇹
kalpanos1
30-Dec-20 12:01 AM
amazing plan and noted as well thank you dear Marci
SIFU. D A N
30-Dec-20 12:05 AM
Marvelous plan @Marci 🇮🇹 ! You WILL Master EURUSD
Marci 🇮🇹
30-Dec-20 07:50 AM
thank you guys! let's do this!
Albie 💰
Love that @Marci 🇮🇹 i see you killing Eu love to see it lets go!
30-Dec-20 08:36 AM
Zhivko Delchev
30-Dec-20 04:00 PM
Hey everyone, I was off for a week and today decided to create a Trading Plan Template so everybody who needs one can adopt it and tweak it to his own way of trading refined trough
backtesting
TRADING_PLAN_TEMPLATE.docx
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Nice plan. I love the brain surgery bit the most ! Would you be so kind to tell me when OB is tradable and when not for you. Thank you so much.
Zhivko Delchev Hey everyone, I was off for a week and today decided to create a Trading Plan Template so everybody who needs one can adopt it and tweak it to his own way of trading refined trough b…
£x
30-Dec-20 05:17 PM
God bless you! This is beautiful ! You're a treasure, Zhivko. So many useful docs and templates from you all the way, brother!
Marci 🇮🇹
30-Dec-20 05:27 PM
Hi @£x thank you for asking. I just posted a reply on the same question in the EURUSD analysis. Also if you scroll back the posts of yesterday there is a chart where I drew the OBs with
tradable/ not tradable (as per a visual reference)
AnonDanTrader
30-Dec-20 08:34 PM
Nice work guys, some great templates used!
chartimefx
30-Dec-20 08:47 PM
I created this risk management system which fit my personality and mentality and the way I see the market and react to it
system is this :
1) Fuck profit fuck money , mental goal is to breakeven not to profit , this helps a lot with emotions , Im trading because Its my purpose in life , not thinking of money or materialistic stuff.
2) risk 1% per trade. ( sl either 5 pip - 7.5 pip - 10 pip and adjust the lot size according to that)
3) RR always 1:4 , take 50% when you reach 1:2 ( this will allow you to lock 1% profit , so if trade hit your BE its actually deleting ur previous loss not just a BE , no one goes broke by taking
profit , after that keep 50% position open and if it hit 1:4 , thats a nice 1:3 overall trade)
4) Psychology , 10 trades , 2 win , 3 BE , 5 loss , (2W x 3% + 3BE x 1% - 5L x1% ) = 4% [ This is even the worst case scenario ! if you master tha phantom strategy you will have far higher
winstreak , but we talk here on some worst cases , you will still be fucking profitable )
5) 10 trades a week , 2-3 a day , no more than 10 trades a week , no more than -2% a day , 1h for trend and overall understanding , 30 15 for OB and BoS , 5 and 1 for entry)
Today results : 3 trades ( NZDUSD , EURCAD, EURUSD ) , 3/3 wins , clean 9% in one day risking 1% a trade.
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chartimefx
01-Jan-21 10:23 PM
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Same trade plan , Still learning , gonna try to CE after I RE, I bet this will make a big impact too!
3/3 trades
2BE = 2 x 1 = 2%
1W= 1 x 3 = 3%
I can now even spot OB without drawing it, Im becoming aware of every connection between the HTF and LTF
£x God bless you! This is beautiful ! You're a treasure, Zhivko. So many useful docs and templates from you all the way, brother!
Zhivko Delchev
04-Jan-21 08:33 AM
You are all welcome
JP117
04-Jan-21 01:32 PM
Hi everyone, I was wondering how much data they collect before they make a trading plan? I like to place entries on the 5 minute timeframe but I can't backtest very far back for that. I was
wondering how other people approach it, I have made trading plans before with GT so I was backtesting 2 years of data on a pair then make a trading then I would backtest with the trading
plan then if I was happy I would go live on that pair. Any tips and suggestions would be appreciated.
2020vision
04-Jan-21 01:34 PM
there is a platform called soft 4x so can back test on that and it acts like you're in a live trade. that might work
JP117 Hi everyone, I was wondering how much data they collect before they make a trading plan? I like to place entries on the 5 minute timeframe but I can't backtest very far back for that. I was wonderi…
Mr. Sketchy Wyckoff
04-Jan-21 01:45 PM
its not so much how far back you can go, but how many trades you have documented mate
i would aim for north of 50 backtested before u start forward testing
Mr. Sketchy Wyckoff its not so much how far back you can go, but how many trades you have documented mate
JP117
04-Jan-21 01:51 PM
Perfect man, cheers. Getting there on EU for the minimum so hahaha
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2020vision
04-Jan-21 02:00 PM
well pair characteristics is what we were told to look out for when we were at GT
2020vision well pair characteristics is what we were told to look out for when we were at GT
Mr. Sketchy Wyckoff
04-Jan-21 02:00 PM
i was with GT too
but GT is retail, patterns and probabilities, essentially its a flag and break and retest strategy
2020vision
04-Jan-21 02:00 PM
yeah
2020vision
04-Jan-21 02:01 PM
yeh thats it
thats the beauty if this
CharlesForSure
04-Jan-21 02:14 PM
@Mr. Sketchy Wyckoff did you start backtesting bar by bar or did you do case studies First?
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CharlesForSure @Mr. Sketchy Wyckoff did you start backtesting bar by bar or did you do case studies First?
Mr. Sketchy Wyckoff
04-Jan-21 02:18 PM
i did case studies mate
best way to start
CharlesForSure
04-Jan-21 02:21 PM
Thanks
Mr. Sketchy Wyckoff i would aim for north of 50 backtested before u start forward testing
AMFX7
04-Jan-21 02:43 PM
Is that 50 on one specific pair or if you wanna trade like 5 pairs (50 overall)?
AMFX7 Is that 50 on one specific pair or if you wanna trade like 5 pairs (50 overall)?
Mr. Sketchy Wyckoff
04-Jan-21 02:44 PM
i would say 50 overall to start forward testing mate
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Sorafx
04-Jan-21 10:08 PM
50 of what pls
Sorafx
04-Jan-21 10:10 PM
50 case study
Mr. Sketchy Wyckoff i would say 50 overall to start forward testing mate
Vaughn Item
04-Jan-21 10:11 PM
how did you read my mind! was just pundering this couple of minutes ago and saw the respone thanx!
MEE6
04-Jan-21 10:11 PM
@Vaughn Item advanced to level 1!
R O B E R T O
12-Jan-21 10:37 AM
Sorry bout that fixing it now!
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give it a go now and let me know if that works @Archad
Thank you
Krul
12-Jan-21 11:01 AM
https://www.notion.so/GBPUSD-1e768d0a855046be905868d0fe9cd012
R O B E R T O
13-Jan-21 03:52 PM
hey guys still working on it
so that is in the case of bearish or bullish orderflow
wherein a candle gets mitigated ,followed by another candle that gets mitigated without breaking the previously mitigated candles high
there is a chart example of that setup I think i put in there
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R O B E R T O wherein a candle gets mitigated ,followed by another candle that gets mitigated without breaking the previously mitigated candles high
JP117
13-Jan-21 05:08 PM
Ohh ok, now I see. Thank you
R O B E R T O
13-Jan-21 11:21 PM
Hey guys just an update -- gonna pull that trading plan for the time being as I want to have it fleshed out first. Release was a little premature
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THanks for understanding!
R O B E R T O Hey guys just an update -- gonna pull that trading plan for the time being as I want to have it fleshed out first. Release was a little premature
Ana7777
14-Jan-21 12:00 AM
Sorbsaha
15-Jan-21 10:58 AM
Guys, time of the day is very important for Forex trading so, I created this time table to let me know when to look for fresh entries. Helps manage my time a lot better now. My timezone is
India (IST) so, that's my go-to but feel free to duplicate it on your google drive and modify according to your time zone
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/180cO3De1eLummiqHZvRS_xnY4cwzvDFKKwUFlPnm5pE/edit?usp=sharing
FX Time Table
Sheet1
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Almopt
16-Jan-21 12:14 AM
Can someone explain me which are the best times for open trades and why? Thanks
Sorbsaha
16-Jan-21 01:56 AM
Hey @Almopt , the excel I shared above has the best time in "Green". Check it out.
Almopt Can someone explain me which are the best times for open trades and why? Thanks
Chief
16-Jan-21 02:21 AM
Well it's going to be around volume, because that means more liquidity, which means probably more manipulations by institutions and faster move bc exchange of money creates orderflow.
So when I say that when do you think best times to trade are? If you aren't sure look up highest volumes in forex OR chuck on volume indicator and you will quickly see a pattern (hint hint
it's London and NY sessions)
SamadhiFX
My personal trading plan
🇮🇹(Otiraggir)
❤️✈️ 28-Jan-21 08:33 PM
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Jamie_All
28-Jan-21 08:53 PM
@SamadhiFX 🇮🇹(Otiraggir) thats i nice and clean one. i like it.
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Freshizy
28-Jan-21 09:28 PM
@SamadhiFX 🇮🇹(Otiraggir) nice one
ApolloCreedXI
04-Feb-21 05:09 PM
This is my current, detailed trading plan
trading_plan_.pdf
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MEE6
04-Feb-21 05:09 PM
@ApolloCreedXI advanced to level 2!
Krul https://www.notion.so/GBPUSD-1e768d0a855046be905868d0fe9cd012
Vetsky
05-Feb-21 03:54 PM
Hello, would please make public?
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or am I missing something
Rapidmagic Thanks for uploading! When you refer to "type 2" and "type 3 " BOS do you mean type of breaks structure mapping ie type 2 - wick/body and type 3 wick/wick?
or am I missing something
ApolloCreedXI
15-Feb-21 06:33 PM
Sorry for the late response, you are spot on when talking about the BOS break of structure. Brad talked about how different breaks of structures can give us clues as to which order blocks
might get respected. That’s is why I included it in my trading plan.
ApolloCreedXI Sorry for the late response, you are spot on when talking about the BOS break of structure. Brad talked about how different breaks of structures can give us clues as to which order block…
Rapidmagic
16-Feb-21 08:38 PM
Thanks for confirming! and good luck with your trading plan!
£x God bless you! This is beautiful ! You're a treasure, Zhivko. So many useful docs and templates from you all the way, brother!
DJDBazzer
19-Feb-21 07:24 PM
Falcon didn't work out then?
destroyer of dreams
19-Feb-21 08:26 PM
Did she leave here too? Maybe she's gone to guerilla trading to learn how to get -6% in drawdown before hitting a 10% trade that stops her out at breakeven lol
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Chief She left falcon and then joined here and then left here also lol
DJDBazzer
19-Feb-21 08:35 PM
Haha brilliant. Hopefully she has found a strategy that works for her. I offered her some valuable advice a while back as an ex-Falcon member but she poo poo'd it and told me she wasn't
at Falcon for the %%% which I couldn't really get my head around haha
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destroyer of dreams Did she leave here too? Maybe she's gone to guerilla trading to learn how to get -6% in drawdown before hitting a 10% trade that stops her out at breakeven lol
Chief
19-Feb-21 08:50 PM
Yeah bro better not move that stop unless you break the high, idc if you up 50%.... follow the plan mate
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Chief Yeah bro better not move that stop unless you break the high, idc if you up 50%.... follow the plan mate
CaptainHaytch
19-Feb-21 09:08 PM
Then find out that he ended up somehow taking profit anyways in his recap (Probably said that it's Friday so I manually closed it)
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Chief Yeah bro better not move that stop unless you break the high, idc if you up 50%.... follow the plan mate
WyseFx
19-Feb-21 09:27 PM
The amount of times I got yelled at for moving trades to BE
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Chief Yeah bro better not move that stop unless you break the high, idc if you up 50%.... follow the plan mate
destroyer of dreams
19-Feb-21 09:35 PM
Did you lose?
Did FTMO servers break down and your internet in the house cut off?
N O R A A
19-Feb-21 10:12 PM
https://tenor.com/view/flanders-company-tv-show-discretion-wig-pink-wig-gif-17323275
Jcharb
20-Feb-21 03:25 AM
xd
DJDBazzer Haha brilliant. Hopefully she has found a strategy that works for her. I offered her some valuable advice a while back as an ex-Falcon member but she poo poo'd it and told me she wasn't at F…
2020vision
20-Feb-21 12:24 PM
its cos they run those places like a cult to the point where the person is hooked to the group as opposed to achieving their actual objective which is simply to make money from trading
financial markets ♂️
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and she also said she's not their for the money as a way to rationalise her losses. defence mechanism
N O R A A https://tenor.com/view/flanders-company-tv-show-discretion-wig-pink-wig-gif-17323275
2020vision
20-Feb-21 12:29 PM
funny thing is, GT uses discretion. what is classed as "impulsive enough" requires intuition
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2020vision funny thing is, GT uses discretion. what is classed as "impulsive enough" requires intuition
CaptainHaytch
20-Feb-21 07:04 PM
Tbf, there's always going to be some level of discretion no matter what
2020vision
20-Feb-21 07:06 PM
yeah exactly. the most profitable traders jack schwager found from all the guys he interviewed in market wizards was that the most profitable were the discretionary traders
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2020vision yeah exactly. the most profitable traders jack schwager found from all the guys he interviewed in market wizards was that the most profitable were the discretionary traders
CaptainHaytch
20-Feb-21 07:11 PM
I heard he had a new book coming out
2020vision
20-Feb-21 07:12 PM
it came out a few months ago - unknown market wizards.
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Sanad Layas
28-Feb-21 02:12 PM
I have literally lost it I don't know what to trade I don't have trading plan any help guys any suggestions ?
Sanad Layas I have literally lost it I don't know what to trade I don't have trading plan any help guys any suggestions ?
JayG
28-Feb-21 03:04 PM
What exactly are you struggling with, I presume you've gone through all the content numerous times?
JayG What exactly are you struggling with, I presume you've gone through all the content numerous times?
Sanad Layas
28-Feb-21 03:12 PM
Yeah I have gone through all the content and at the first I was doing good but then I don't know what changed
Well basically bro I trade London session and I don't like swing trade so I'm an inter day trader
And I don't know what's the best training plan
Sanad Layas Well basically bro I trade London session and I don't like swing trade so I'm an inter day trader
Bosh Junkaaaah
28-Feb-21 07:09 PM
How many pairs are you trying to follow?
Bosh Junkaaaah
28-Feb-21 09:18 PM
And you're trading intra day?
@Sanad Layas
Why don't you just narrow your focus to one pair?
Quarter your choice and narrow your focus
Sanad Layas
28-Feb-21 09:25 PM
I think I know why I was struggling with this strategy it's because I was trading 1 hour time frame and Below only I will try to put my order block on the higher time frame 1 hour and above
Sanad Layas I think I know why I was struggling with this strategy it's because I was trading 1 hour time frame and Below only I will try to put my order block on the higher time frame 1 hour and above
amnaaziz
01-Mar-21 10:31 PM
I was trading on demo only using H1 orderblocks and I just had loss after loss. I was being too impatient to wait for H4 or D1 orderblocks.
Today I was backtesting and only used D1 orderblocks, then when price entered the zone, I only used the M5 to find a confirmation entry. This has wayyyyyy higher probability and I can
finally see the strategy playing out
Sometimes we feel like we “always” need to be in a trade. But really just 1 high probability set up a week is all you need.
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I know it sounds obvious, but sometimes we need to be reminded of the obvious backtesting helps a lot with that. You could backtest January and February, and see that patience can
really pay off
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amnaaziz I was trading on demo only using H1 orderblocks and I just had loss after loss. I was being too impatient to wait for H4 or D1 orderblocks. Today I was backtesting and only used D1 orderbloc…
spenfx
02-Mar-21 12:40 AM
Hey, try backtesting with the chart in full view rather than bar replay, mark on everything the same way you would with the bar replay/live trading, things like HTF POIs, breaks of
structure, EQs, inefficiency etc. then see where the major trades happen, you'll soon see which POIs have the highest probability of playing out
This is one I'm going over again on AUDUSD Jan 21 https://www.tradingview.com/x/5pkWyYrd/ then you can use that data to build an initial trading plan, then test the plan out with the
bar replay tool and see how you do
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amnaaziz I know it sounds obvious, but sometimes we need to be reminded of the obvious backtesting helps a lot with that. You could backtest January and February, and see that patience can real…
Sanad Layas
02-Mar-21 09:53 AM
Thank you so much. that has really helped and I have started to analysis on the HTF and enter in the LTF and I see much different ❤
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MEE6
02-Mar-21 09:53 AM
@Sanad Layas advanced to level 1!
spenfx Hey, try backtesting with the chart in full view rather than bar replay, mark on everything the same way you would with the bar replay/live trading, things like HTF POIs, breaks of structure, EQs, …
Sanad Layas
02-Mar-21 09:55 AM
I like your chart bro ↗️
spenfx Hey, try backtesting with the chart in full view rather than bar replay, mark on everything the same way you would with the bar replay/live trading, things like HTF POIs, breaks of structure, EQs, …
amnaaziz
02-Mar-21 11:04 AM
Thank you, I’ll give that a go
amnaaziz I was trading on demo only using H1 orderblocks and I just had loss after loss. I was being too impatient to wait for H4 or D1 orderblocks. Today I was backtesting and only used D1 orderbloc…
Orri
03-Mar-21 12:24 PM
Which pair were you backtesting?
amnaaziz EURUSD
Orri
03-Mar-21 01:02 PM
OK thanks.
M1R4GE
03-Mar-21 01:23 PM
Hey guys quick question, how many back testing case studies do you guys usually do before making a trading plan for a specific pair or do you guys have like a universal trading plan which
you just use for each pair you trade?
amnaaziz I was trading on demo only using H1 orderblocks and I just had loss after loss. I was being too impatient to wait for H4 or D1 orderblocks. Today I was backtesting and only used D1 orderbloc…
Tylers
04-Mar-21 06:19 PM
Do you mean you were doing 1H confirmation entries and getting loss after loss, but htf poi’s getting more higher probability trades?
Tylers Do you mean you were doing 1H confirmation entries and getting loss after loss, but htf poi’s getting more higher probability trades?
amnaaziz
04-Mar-21 06:20 PM
Yes
amnaaziz Yes
Tylers
04-Mar-21 06:20 PM
Interesting, I get a lot of losses from it but the wins outweigh it. Obviously loss after loss can still throw me psychologically sometimes
amnaaziz
04-Mar-21 06:22 PM
Personally I’d rather only trade maybe 1/2 trades a week which are high probability
MEE6
04-Mar-21 06:22 PM
@amnaaziz advanced to level 2!
amnaaziz Personally I’d rather only trade maybe 1/2 trades a week which are high probability So it suits me much better
Tylers
04-Mar-21 06:25 PM
I’m guessing just nice setups from 4H/Daily poi’s?
MEE6
04-Mar-21 06:25 PM
@Tylers advanced to level 1!
Tylers Do you mean you were doing 1H confirmation entries and getting loss after loss, but htf poi’s getting more higher probability trades?
2020vision
05-Mar-21 09:18 AM
yeah i noticed that too. htf is much clearer
amnaaziz Personally I’d rather only trade maybe 1/2 trades a week which are high probability So it suits me much better
2020vision
05-Mar-21 09:19 AM
yeah im just getting used to trading once a week. feels weird as i was used to trading multiple times a day on 5 min charts
2020vision yeah im just getting used to trading once a week. feels weird as i was used to trading multiple times a day on 5 min charts
HD27
05-Mar-21 09:32 AM
You can also do intraday if that is what you like
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2020vision
05-Mar-21 09:40 AM
i trade htf's so set ups happen less often
2020vision
05-Mar-21 09:54 AM
i stick to the same pairs as those pairs fit my plan. some other pairs have no order blocks unless its a daily
2020vision i stick to the same pairs as those pairs fit my plan. some other pairs have no order blocks unless its a daily
lucalatorre
05-Mar-21 10:07 AM
Yeah exactly, I see that all the pairs, even the least traded like chfjpy (for example) in daily give good OB if are in the same bias of the weekly chart, but me too I prefer focus always in
same pair for have less confusion about understanding always new narrative that every pair is telling. I like trade audusd, euraud, audnzd and nzdusd that they moves really good and it’s
fine look correlations among them.
RamonMartcan
05-Mar-21 03:58 PM
Really interesting what @amnaaziz @Tylers @2020vision and @lucalatorre are talking about as I was in a similar situation than the one you mentioned above: lost in LTF, trying to find my
own approach to the strategy with different timeframes, types of entries, management...My main handicap is that I work from 8 to 3 London time so I'm not able to constantly check the
charts to execute orders in LTF, therefore I'm trying to simplify everything to either H1 RE after hitting Daily POI's or 15' CE after hitting this daily areas. If any of you is trying to implement
something similar I would really appreciate if you send me a DM and discuss how we can set everything up for not being constantly monitoring the price and being profitable
Jamie_All
05-Mar-21 04:24 PM
@RamonMartcan If you find a solution please share with us
RamonMartcan Really interesting what @amnaaziz @Tylers @2020vision and @lucalatorre are talking about as I was in a similar situation than the one you mentioned above: lost in LTF, trying to fi…
JuiceBox
05-Mar-21 04:25 PM
Look at the backtesting channels. Becuase TV only allows us to go back so far with LTF, people shared using 1hr OB entries and 15m if its closer in time. Might be able to get some ideas from
there. Definitely looks like it would allow someone a lot more time to place a trade where as the 1m or even 5m, you might need to be at the chart once in a AOI to see if a BOS and orderflow
is happening.
Jamie_All @RamonMartcan If you find a solution please share with us I searching also for a way to trade next to work
2020vision
05-Mar-21 04:51 PM
stick to 4 major pairs and look on H1 charts and higher
MEE6
05-Mar-21 04:51 PM
@2020vision advanced to level 11!
2020vision
05-Mar-21 04:51 PM
set price alerts
Jamie_All
05-Mar-21 05:02 PM
ok ️
RamonMartcan Really interesting what @amnaaziz @Tylers @2020vision and @lucalatorre are talking about as I was in a similar situation than the one you mentioned above: lost in LTF, trying to fi…
amnaaziz
05-Mar-21 05:28 PM
I’m also from the U.K. and even though it can be hard to trade whilst you’re working, I’m quite appreciative of the fact that we’re at least awake during London and NY
Identify your D1/H4 OB’s and set alerts for when price reaches those levels. Then you won’t have to always keep checking the charts.
When you do get an alert, choose only 1 LTF to focus on (M5 is my preferred). The setup could take hours to form so there’s no rush, you just wait for an M5 BOS and OB and place a
pending order
If you’re just focusing on 3/4 pairs and H4/D1 orderblocks, you won’t even necessarily have to trade every day. Just a few times a week. And update your OB’s and alerts every evening.
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amnaaziz I’m also from the U.K. and even though it can be hard to trade whilst you’re working, I’m quite appreciative of the fact that we’re at least awake during London and NY Identify your D1/H4 …
SIFU. D A N
05-Mar-21 05:31 PM
Well said !
amnaaziz I’m also from the U.K. and even though it can be hard to trade whilst you’re working, I’m quite appreciative of the fact that we’re at least awake during London and NY Identify your D1/H4 …
Ange
05-Mar-21 05:40 PM
This is great advice, and how I was planning on doing things. Although I had been thinking I would be using the 15M chart for entry. Good to hear this is managable with the 5M charts as
that would really be my preference. I'll have to get backtesting this and see how it fits.
amnaaziz I’m also from the U.K. and even though it can be hard to trade whilst you’re working, I’m quite appreciative of the fact that we’re at least awake during London and NY Identify your D1/H4 …
Rock
05-Mar-21 06:07 PM
Exactly what im doing . Keep it simple. No lower than H4. If you focus on H1 you will confuse and lose yourself, especially if your working too. When you get really comfortable with the
above. Go down, but only if you think you need to. H4 is super effective and there is plenty of opportunities. BT only H4 you will see
Ange This is great advice, and how I was planning on doing things. Although I had been thinking I would be using the 15M chart for entry. Good to hear this is managable with the 5M charts as that wo…
amnaaziz
05-Mar-21 06:36 PM
Yeah the reason I like M5 is because it can give you a reasonable stop loss which makes your RR better
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amnaaziz Yeah the reason I like M5 is because it can give you a reasonable stop loss which makes your RR better
S A M
05-Mar-21 06:36 PM
and alot of noise is cut off
ofc you can go lower when you have backtested enough and are experienced but m5 TF is good if you have difficulty choosig between OBs
S A M ofc you can go lower when you have backtested enough and are experienced but m5 TF is good if you have difficulty choosig between OBs
amnaaziz
05-Mar-21 07:01 PM
Definitely! And you can always compare the different timeframes in real-time to see which one is clearer
amnaaziz Definitely! And you can always compare the different timeframes in real-time to see which one is clearer Sometimes M3 can be better than M5, just depends in the moment
S A M
05-Mar-21 07:06 PM
yes. TFs carry information...we have to find what is relevant !!
Ange This is great advice, and how I was planning on doing things. Although I had been thinking I would be using the 15M chart for entry. Good to hear this is managable with the 5M charts as that wo…
V i c
05-Mar-21 09:58 PM
When backtesting with 4H OBs, try to take note of how long does it take to from a set-up until entry point is formed. It can also give clarity and lesser urge to rush trades.
V i c When backtesting with 4H OBs, try to take note of how long does it take to from a set-up until entry point is formed. It can also give clarity and lesser urge to rush trades.
Ange
05-Mar-21 10:18 PM
That's a good shout, I had been noting the time for the risk entries I had been testing, but hadn't thought about doing this for the time from when price enters the POI to and confirmation
entry set-up, this will be interesting to see. Thanks
Tylers
06-Mar-21 12:55 AM
does anyone here do solely risk entries? its something i have found profitable backtesting but in real time can struggle to do so
Tylers does anyone here do solely risk entries? its something i have found profitable backtesting but in real time can struggle to do so
Yana Binaev
06-Mar-21 07:13 AM
I do them mostly. I found myself being naturally inclined to risk entries. Confirmation entries just don’t click with me.
IKenWin
06-Mar-21 07:13 AM
@Yana Binaev Would you be able to give me feedback on a chart i recently marked up with what I learned from phantom trading please
Just recently joined, but I loved this strategy that I had to try it out
IKenWin @Yana Binaev Would you be able to give me feedback on a chart i recently marked up with what I learned from phantom trading please
Yana Binaev
06-Mar-21 07:14 AM
I can try haha
IKenWin
06-Mar-21 07:15 AM
Thank you so much :D!
https://www.tradingview.com/x/Djl2tdD4/
IKenWin https://www.tradingview.com/x/Djl2tdD4/
Yana Binaev
06-Mar-21 07:16 AM
Are you trying to wait for a confirmation entry or you were tagged into the trade already?
IKenWin
06-Mar-21 07:17 AM
I am not currently in it, but trying to get in the trade when it hits the 5min OB, but I'm confused if that touch that hit the OB already makes that orderblock not work as well anymore
Yana Binaev
06-Mar-21 07:17 AM
Was this your tagging in?
IKenWin
06-Mar-21 07:17 AM
oooh :/
Yana Binaev
06-Mar-21 07:18 AM
I mean it can still be seen as a confirmation entry perhaps. It wasn’t fully mitigated so it might still come back for more liquidity.
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That’s how I see it so dunno, trading is lots of probabilities.
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IKenWin
06-Mar-21 07:20 AM
Yeah, no worries. Ty for the feed back, its honestly really nice there's such an active community here
Yana Binaev
06-Mar-21 07:20 AM
Welcome, hope this helps. Still learning myself!
Yeah the community is fab.
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Average Joe
06-Mar-21 07:24 AM
Do you make use of your grids alot @IKenWin ?
I personally find it alot cleaner and easier to spot things w/o grids
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IKenWin
06-Mar-21 07:25 AM
Uhm, not really I don't use them
Ah, I will see how to turn them off
Average Joe
06-Mar-21 07:25 AM
Try to disable them and see how that goes
IKenWin
06-Mar-21 07:25 AM
Thanks for that tip dude
Average Joe
06-Mar-21 07:25 AM
No worries
Jamie_All
06-Mar-21 10:39 AM
@Yana Binaev how do you use Risk entry? once price tapped in your htf ob your take the entry at the next formed ob at your entry timeframe?
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Jamie_All @Yana Binaev how do you use Risk entry? once price tapped in your htf ob your take the entry at the next formed ob at your entry timeframe?
RamonMartcan
06-Mar-21 11:00 AM
That's what I'm looking for, someone who trades RE in order to share opinions and discuss @Yana Binaev @Tylers
Jamie_All @Yana Binaev how do you use Risk entry? once price tapped in your htf ob your take the entry at the next formed ob at your entry timeframe?
AMFX7
06-Mar-21 11:56 AM
Check this breakdown posted by George awhile back that shows various entries once tapped into HTF OB....I find this trade very helpful to use as a template.
http://discordapp.com/channels/728715235531161611/728716186946371715/810107021059293194
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Jamie_All @Yana Binaev how do you use Risk entry? once price tapped in your htf ob your take the entry at the next formed ob at your entry timeframe?
Yana Binaev
06-Mar-21 01:17 PM
Nope, so I refine them in this order 4H, 1H, 15M, 5M. Sometimes 1M but it’s a little too much.
From the HTF’s I go down in this order once price tapped in my HFT OB’s I search for entries on the lower ones. Essentially, search for OB’s in the same EOI/POI. And you?
RamonMartcan That's what I'm looking for, someone who trades RE in order to share opinions and discuss @Yana Binaev @Tylers
Yana Binaev
06-Mar-21 01:17 PM
I wasn’t diving into Risk Entries intentionally tbh, but it’s what flows. Wbu?
AMFX7 Check this breakdown posted by George awhile back that shows various entries once tapped into HTF OB....I find this trade very helpful to use as a template.
http://discordapp.com/channels/…
Yana Binaev
06-Mar-21 01:21 PM
Thanks!
amnaaziz I’m also from the U.K. and even though it can be hard to trade whilst you’re working, I’m quite appreciative of the fact that we’re at least awake during London and NY Identify your D1/H4 …
CT
06-Mar-21 01:22 PM
Exactly my plan too . But I'll monitor a couple pairs at once because correlated pairs tend to reach HTF OBs at the same time. So I'll see which pair gives the best setup
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Yana Binaev Nope, so I refine them in this order 4H, 1H, 15M, 5M. Sometimes 1M but it’s a little too much. From the HTF’s I go down in this order once price tapped in my HFT OB’s I search for entries o…
Jamie_All
06-Mar-21 01:30 PM
yes you can pretty easily over refine your ob down to m1 .
But I also try to use h1 OB as poi because H4 take so long to give me a entry. But to be honest, H1 really confused me because of directions. (which directions I should take the trade )
Jamie_All yes you can pretty easily over refine your ob down to m1 .
For now I try the same like @amnaaziz#9731 and @twrecks#4592 .
But I also try to use h1 OB as poi because H4 take so long to g…
Yana Binaev
06-Mar-21 01:43 PM
I am not sure how they trade
Haha I feel you 100% about directions. For now I haven’t figured out a better way except of focusing on HH, HL, LL and LH. And watching the flow, dynamic, market cycle...
Sometimes I take it in the wrong direction no doubt.
Jamie_All When Price tapped into your HTF OB you go down to your entry Timeframe (lets say m5) and there your wait for a BoS to see that the price iss changing direction. The BoS "created" an OB. T…
Yana Binaev
06-Mar-21 02:16 PM
Yessss that’s pretty much what I do! You explained it pretty perfectly.
Yana Binaev I don’t even wait tbh. The moment the BOS “created” as you very rightly said, I take this and pretty much the step of waiting for an entry is very short. Then even if you missed this one it al…
Jamie_All
06-Mar-21 02:41 PM
if you have some time, can you please share a chart, to illustrate how you would enter the trades?
Yana Binaev Yessss that’s pretty much what I do! You explained it pretty perfectly.
It’s easy though. What do you struggle with exactly?
Jamie_All
06-Mar-21 02:47 PM
I have my to main struggle points.
1 - H1 / H4 trade direction (the market dont want to go in this direction where i thougt is will go )
2. on LTF can be so many things to take care of. For example EQL /EQH, some other OB "hanging around" or unfilled Imbalance. We as the trader have to make decision where is the right
place to Enter. I hope with times this becomes clearer
Jamie_All if you have some time, can you please share a chart, to illustrate how you would enter the trades? This would be great.
Yana Binaev
06-Mar-21 03:36 PM
Sure, here you go.
Jamie_All I have my to main struggle points. 1 - H1 / H4 trade direction (the market dont want to go in this direction where i thougt is will go )
2. on LTF can be so many things to take care of. For ex…
Yana Binaev
06-Mar-21 03:41 PM
I hear this.
1. This is something I am always asking myself too but it will get clearer with time as the understanding of liquidity will be better and better.
And plus, we can never REALLY know fully. Like I've seen VERY experienced traders taking a Long being so sure it's a bullish trend then it ends up as a Short.
So it's just lots of probabilities that essentially get smaller the more you refine your edge and stick to your rules, eventually the odds are in your favor.
2. Hmm yes, well here comes traders intuition too. What about the EQL / EQL that confuses you?
Imbalance is basically, I just ask myself was there efficiency or not, is there anything to essentially come back for and grab. Once again, am I always right? No.
Will I ever always be right? No. But with experience probabilities will grow.
Jamie_All
06-Mar-21 05:41 PM
@Yana Binaev thx for the charts and your writings very nice from you.
To your OB drawing, here you use the last down before up candle as ob but you didn't refine it to the candle before the "momentum" kicks in, like in the OB video of the course. Why you use
this way?
On your charts you would put the orders on m5 and m15 after taping in the OB and break structure in this ltf. in this shown example you didn't get get tagged in the trade, right?
Jamie_All @Yana Binaev thx for the charts and your writings very nice from you.
To your OB drawing, here you use the last down before up candle as ob but you didn't refine it to the candle before t…
Yana Binaev
06-Mar-21 05:54 PM
Welcome!
I am not sure what do you mean regarding your first question if I'm honest.
That's how I personally see it. At this point at least, I've been in Phantom for 3 weeks now.
It did tag the order in. Have a closer look on the 5M.
Jamie_All
06-Mar-21 06:42 PM
@Yana Binaev
https://youtu.be/K1HtiY_CvIg
In the content about Orderblocks, it is describe how to refine the OB to the candle before the real momentum started
Phantom Trading
Order Blocks
Jamie_All
06-Mar-21 07:19 PM
@Yana Binaev great and beneficial conversation today
Darren_
07-Mar-21 11:54 AM
Many have asked about the confluence acronyms on my charts so here are all the confluences that i look for before taking an ltf entry:
sc/fu
DCE
imbalance
ltf ob mitigation (price mitigated a ltf sc/fu/ob refined from a htf ob)
inside bar
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MEE6
07-Mar-21 03:18 PM
@Ana7777 advanced to level 6!
samliam
15-Mar-21 02:32 AM
hey guys can you share here with us your trading plan / rules ? it's gonna be helpful
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Brunu
29-Mar-21 04:03 AM
https://www.tradingview.com/x/hhWx2CD2/
Brunu https://www.tradingview.com/x/hhWx2CD2/
USDJPY (Bullish scenario) POI 5min refined
WyseFx
29-Mar-21 04:42 AM
Please post this in the #usdjpy channel or #usdjpy-i if this is more or a LTF only play
devgog
30-Mar-21 07:30 AM
Hi kinda new here , where are the #usdjpy or #usdjpy-s channels ,can't seem to find the ,cheeers
devgog Hi kinda new here , where are the #usdjpy or #usdjpy-s channels ,can't seem to find the ,cheeers
thelonewolftrader
30-Mar-21 07:32 AM
Hey good morning mate, have you had a chance to read to # start-here and react to the channels message?
https://discord.com/channels/728715235531161611/775187419812462613/806906108488056883
🔊
MEE6
30-Mar-21 07:32 AM
@thelonewolftrader advanced to level 16!
thelonewolftrader Hey good morning mate, have you had a chance to read to # 🔊start-here and react to the channels message?
https://discord.com/channels/728715235531161611/775187419812…
devgog
30-Mar-21 07:37 AM
Oops my bad ,thanks so much appreciated
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Pipholic
30-Mar-21 11:15 PM
any views on GU
Brunu
30-Mar-21 11:15 PM
@Pipholic buy on GU
Pipholic
30-Mar-21 11:15 PM
can u share ur setup
rukhon
30-Mar-21 11:47 PM
#gbpusd @Pipholic can you post your setup in that channel
aysaross
01-Apr-21 11:17 PM
is anyone interested in sharing their updated tradingplan, i'm new and i need some inspiration for my own
aysaross is anyone interested in sharing their updated tradingplan, i'm new and i need some inspiration for my own
Connor M
01-Apr-21 11:32 PM
Out of the 1000 people in here I would imagine that everyone has different things they look out for. You really need to find your own style that suits your personality and will only really do
that from backtesting and finding 'your edge'.
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SPICE Y 🌶
01-Apr-21 11:35 PM
I agree with Connor it’s highly individual. Stuff you can look out for in back testing though are times you will trade, pairs your will trade, where you place your order (distal, eq, 25%), will
you hold them over night, what will you risk, what do you look for before getting into a trade, how do you manage your trade, do you look for a minimum take profit, do you take partials or
trail your stop loss, what time frames do you look at for structure, for OBs, for entry. And plenty more I’m sure but that should give you a nice start. Also scroll to the top of this channel you
will find some examples
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Connor M Out of the 1000 people in here I would imagine that everyone has different things they look out for. You really need to find your own style that suits your personality and will only really do th…
aysaross
01-Apr-21 11:38 PM
Thanks for the reply, I know that I have to find my own and that I have to test a lot to find my “own edge”. I just have a hard time finding the right OB’s on the LTF, I just wanted some
inspiration on how you guys find yours and how you work towards it.
MEE6
01-Apr-21 11:38 PM
@aysaross advanced to level 2!
SPICEY 🌶 I agree with Connor it’s highly individual. Stuff you can look out for in back testing though are times you will trade, pairs your will trade, where you place your order (distal, eq, 25%), will y…
aysaross
01-Apr-21 11:39 PM
Yeah i understand bro, thank you for your reply
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aysaross Thanks for the reply, I know that I have to find my own and that I have to test a lot to find my “own edge”. I just have a hard time finding the right OB’s on the LTF, I just wanted some inspiratio…
Connor M
01-Apr-21 11:39 PM
If you are fairly new then I eould suggest focusing on the htf to start with and getting a good understanding of them before diving into ltf. The ltf has a lot of noise.
Once you have a better understanding of the htf, then the ltf will become easier to read.
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Connor M If you are fairly new then I eould suggest focusing on the htf to start with and getting a good understanding of them before diving into ltf. The ltf has a lot of noise. Once you have a better und…
aysaross
01-Apr-21 11:45 PM
I’m at a place where I understand the HTF, just not yet the LTF. It’s kind a frustrating when you put a lot of hours in and missing a lot of trades by a few pips because I place my OB’s wrong
on the LTF. I just wanted some inspiration on how others do it ahahahahah but thanks tho, I’ll just figure it out and watch some more case studies
And backtest more of course
Connor M
01-Apr-21 11:47 PM
Sketchy and alb are going to be releasing some content on tbe ltf soon.
Also the intraday markups that thay have been poating the last few days are gold. Copy them on your charts and then backtest every move until you grade it flawlessly. It will help a lot.
Connor M Sketchy and alb are going to be releasing some content on tbe ltf soon. Also the intraday markups that thay have been poating the last few days are gold. Copy them on your charts and then b…
aysaross
01-Apr-21 11:48 PM
Yes I will! Thanks
aysaross Thanks for the reply, I know that I have to find my own and that I have to test a lot to find my “own edge”. I just have a hard time finding the right OB’s on the LTF, I just wanted some inspiratio…
Mr. Sketchy Wyckoff
02-Apr-21 06:50 AM
Hop on the zoom meet up on Monday
aysaross I’m at a place where I understand the HTF, just not yet the LTF. It’s kind a frustrating when you put a lot of hours in and missing a lot of trades by a few pips because I place my OB’s wrong on t…
Project618
02-Apr-21 09:38 AM
If you’ve got this data on these losing trades where your missing out by a few pips. Look into all of them and find the commonalities that’s your answer right there mate. Just because
someone takes a certain OB doesn’t mean you will in a live scenario it’s about training your RAS to what you classify as your entry and then you’ll start to see it.
But yes the intraday team markups are like gold dust. Eat that shit up.
Project618 If you’ve got this data on these losing trades where your missing out by a few pips. Look into all of them and find the commonalities that’s your answer right there mate. Just because someo…
aysaross
02-Apr-21 10:16 PM
Thanks bro, I’ll definitely do what everyone told me to do! Love the advice you gave me
Shadowsoldier
18-Apr-21 06:11 PM
Hey Guys, could you help me. I am interesting about taking partials and breakeven. What is optimal? After the new structure should i put my trade BE? And about partials. Do you have any
good way to take partials? example: tp 1 30%, tp 2 20% ect. Thank you.
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Shadowsoldier Hey Guys, could you help me. I am interesting about taking partials and breakeven. What is optimal? After the new structure should i put my trade BE? And about partials. Do you have a…
B L A C K W A T C H
18-Apr-21 06:27 PM
hey man - i touch on partials a bit in todays commentary
B L A C K W A T C H
18-Apr-21 06:38 PM
up to you really. just be consistent. how many partials will you take over all? i dont do more than 3 before final TP
so im good with 20% each
or 75% if its closer to the final TP and might price might go agaisnt me before hitting my TP
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osaserenb23
18-Apr-21 10:27 PM
How do you calculate taking partials by percentage
MEE6
19-Apr-21 12:45 AM
@offlinegang advanced to level 1!
osaserenb23 I GOT the position size calculator, but cant find where to use take partials with it
JuiceBox
19-Apr-21 03:28 PM
I think there is an updated one. I saw it floating around in resource section I think
traderssociety
23-Apr-21 01:23 PM
Anyone know what a good broker for mt5 is?
FutureFx
23-Apr-21 01:47 PM
Ic markets
traderssociety
23-Apr-21 02:17 PM
Ftmo leverage are 1:50 right?!
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traderssociety
23-Apr-21 02:18 PM
Yeah I edited bro
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23-Apr-21 02:40 PM
1:100
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osaserenb23 I GOT the position size calculator, but cant find where to use take partials with it
B L A C K W A T C H
23-Apr-21 02:48 PM
@R O B E R T O could answer that for you- I dont use that tool so im unsure
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R O B E R T O
23-Apr-21 03:47 PM
It should be under take partial profits
It’s a parameter in the confit, see res
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