SG1A Approved For Release 2002/11/13 : Gum-ROPTe-0099eR000400050006-y/ be P CONFIDENTIAL OTS/BAB MEMO # 163-75 29 April 1975 MEMORANDUM FOR: ATTENTION i SUBJECT : Interview with Mr. Patrick H. Price re Grid Coordinates The attached report is a result of your memo of 31 January 1975 to OTS/CB wherein you provided five grid coordinates which were to be used in an experimental remote viewing Program designed to provide operational leads on variors targets. The information has been recorded essentially as presented by Pat with only minor editorial changes. Little attempt was made to follow through on most of his statements, since the primary objective of this interview was to provide you with raw data which you could review and evaluate before deciding 1f you want to meet and debrief Pat yourselves. Because of my deliberate effort to avoid gaining knowledge of the targets which could "tip off" Pat during the debriefing I do not know how mal, if any, of his statements are correct. We would therefore appreciate your comments regarding this information to help us evaluate the potential to the Agency of this technique in general and Mr. Price in particular. ‘OTS7BAB CONFIDENTIAL, Approved For Release 2002/11/13 : CIA-RDP79-00999A000400050006-0 SGI SG1l SG1AApproved For Release 2002/11/13 : CIA-RDP79-00999A000400050006-0 CONFIDENTIAL MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD Subject: Interview with “tr. Patrick 1, Price on 26 April 1975 Administrative For the record, the following administrative point: were covered with Pat on 26 April 1975 during our meeting at the Key Bridge Marriott Motel: Our relationship is now an operational one. We are no longer conducting R & D. He was very pleased with this and eager to go to work. He was asked what conditions help him to work at his best? Does it help to see the person or a photograph? Can he really get there best by grid coordinates, etc.? He feels we must provide more information so that he can rake a positive identification of a afte. Grid coordinates are ok to establish the general aren of interest but then he must be told what specific point to zero in on. Photographs are very good, particularly when a person or a building is in- volved. More data is needed to help pinpoint a location in relation to a known landmrk such as a city or a topographic feature. If the point is within a city then provide a locator point such as a building description. Pat was told that security will be a problem that we must face. I will not always be able to tell him everything because often I will not have all the details. The principl of "compartmentation" and "need to know" will be SOP. Also there is a potential for embarrassment if our association is played up in the pre: Ne agreed to keep me posted on other groups he may work with and even his contacts with the press. One interview he gave to the National nquirer about six weeks CONFIDENTIAT, Approved For Release 2002/11/13 : CIA-RDP79-00999A000400050006-0Approved For Release 2002/11/13 : CIA-RDP79-00999A000400050006-0 CONFIDENTIAL Page 2 ago should be published soon. The topic was a philosephicel discussion of psychokenisis and remote viewing in relation to the study of Scientology. As a ganeral rule Pat claims that he shuns publicity and hes turned down many requests for interviews. Pat was given the Personality chacklist, an indirect assessment guide and a PEQ III to help him focus on the type of information we would like to get on people. Pat promised to send sketches of the areas we discussed along with a bill for his expenses. Report Based on his "study" of the coordinates 1 gave him on 22 April, Pat supplied the following information. The interview was taped and the three cassettes are available for study. Coordinates given Pat: CONFIDENTIAL Approved For Release 2002/11/13 : CIA-RDP79-00999A000400050006-0 SG1ASGA Approved For Release 2002/11/13 : CIA-RDP79-00999A000400050006-0 Next 2 Page(s) In Document Exempt Approved For Release 2002/11/13 : CIA-RDP79-00999A000400050006-0Approved For Release 2002/11/13 : CIA-RDP79-00999A000400050006-0 CONFIDENTIAL Page 6 SG1A CONFIDENTIAL Approved For Release 2002/11/13 : CIA-RDP79-00999A000400050006-0