FOREWORD QUITE OFTEN WHEN 1] @M TRYING TQ WRITE @ LETTER UR SOME INSTRUCTIONS T WILL. HAVE TO CONSULT THE DICTIONAKY TO FIND QUT HOW TO SPELL WORD WHILH I WANT TO USE, 11 1S @LWAYS FUN TO READ THE DIFFERENT DEPINITIONS. 1 THOUGHT THAT 1 HAD BETTER LOOK UF THE WORD "FORWORD*~ TWAS NOT GU1IE SURE ABQUT 17 AND 17 WAS 6 GOOD THING THAT 1 DID SINCE THE FIRST TIME I USED 11 IN FART IT WAS MISSPELLED. THE NEAREST THING I COULD FIND TO “FORWDORD’ WAS "FORWARD". ONE DEFINI~ TION LISTED WAG: 7SDVANCE. ESPECIALLY BEYOND THE USUAL DEGRES’. T HOPE THAT WITH THE INSTRUCTIONS WHICM FOLLOW THAT YOUR PROGRESS WILL HE * FORWARD. NOT TU LONG AGO I PURCHASED ONE OF THE LITTLE PERSONAL COMPUTERS WHICH @RE AVAILABLE ON THE MARKET TODAY. UR LOCAL COMMUNITY OFFERED A NITE COURSE IN PROGRAMING SUCH A COMPUTER AND THUS 1 DETERMINED TO TAKE THE COURSE. THE FIRST NITE ABOUT A DOZEN STUDENTS SHOWED UF, WHILE THE COURSE WAS LISTED AB BEING ONE FOR THE NOVICE THE CLASS LEVEL EXTENDED ALL THE WAY FROM THE ONE STUDENT WHO HAD NEVER SEEN a PERSONAL COMPUTER TO A COUPLE OF STUDENTS WHO WERE PROBABLY BETTER INFORMED THAN THE TEACHER. THIS FUT THE TEACHER IN A POSITION UF SORT OF BEING BETWEEN THE "DEVIL AND THE DEEF BLUE SEA’. [Ff H® DIRECTED HIS INSTRUCTIONS IN A MANNER WHICH WOULD INSTRUCT THE COMPLETE NOVICE THEN He Was REALLY JUST WASTING THE TIME OF THE STUDENT AT THE OTHER END OF BCALE. THIS SAME HELD TRUE IN THE OPOSITE DIRECTION, IN WRITING PART 11. WHICHEVER SYSTEM YOU HAVE CHOSEN, 1 am PRETTY MUCH IN THE SAME FUSITIUN AS THIS TEACHER. AS MACHINISTS SOME OF YOUR ARE PROBABLY IN THE NOVICE CLASS AND MANY Z AM SURE ARE BOUND TO MNOW MORE THAN THE INSTRUCTOR. WHICHEVER YDUR CATAGORY T HOPE THAT YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND BEAR WITH ME. 1 DD HAVE ONE SUGGESTION WHICH WILL FIT THE NOVICE AND THE JOURNEYMAN MACHINIST. IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING THIS PROJECT STRICTLY FROM THE ANGLE OF PRODUCING @ LOW COST SET OF BULLET SWAGIN5 DLES THEN MY ADVICE IS *FORGET 17%. IF ON THE OTHER HAND YOUR MAIN AIM IS DIRECTED AT LEARNING HOW TO MAKE BULLET SWABING DIES THEN I BELIEVE THAT WHAT EVER CATAGORY YOU FALL INTO OUR PROGRESS CAN BE ’ FORWARD’ CNE OF THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE IN WRITING @ WORKS SWIGH AS THIS IS THE FACT THAT EVEN THO A PERSON KNOWS HOW TO PREFORM A CER~ TAIN FEAT HE MAY NOT RE ABLE TO PRESENT IT TO A READER IN AN UNDERSTANDABLE MANNER. WHILE I HAVE HAD CONGIDERBLE EXPERIENCE IN WRITING INSTRUCTIONS 2 AM SURE 1 HAVE MANY SHORTCOMINGS. THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT T SEEM TO BE THE ONLY. BALL GAME IN TOWN 50 TC SPEAK. IF THiS THING [8 TO BE A REAL SUCCESS T AM GOING TO HAVE 70 DEFEND UPON YOU THE READER ALMOST AS MUCH AS YOU WILL HAVE TO LEAN ON ME, THIS MAKES IT IMPERITIVE THAT WE WORK TOGETHER AS @ TEAM. THE {OFA OF THE LOOSE LEAF BINDER OFFERS AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TQ UPDATE THIS WORKS BOTH FROM THE STAND— POINT DF THE NOVICE AND THE ACCOMPLISHED. IF YOU ARE A MACHINIST THEN YOU CAN HELP CORRECT MY MISTAXES, IF YOUR ARE & DRAFTSMAN 1 WELCOME BETTER PRINTS WITH OPEN ARMS. IF THERE ARE FARTS YOU SuST DON’T UNDERSTAND THEN PROBABLY OTHERS ARE IN THE SAME BOAT. DON?T BE BACKWARD ABOUT STATING YOUR POSITION. ‘LETS ALL GET TOGETHER @a) CHANGE THAT WORD UP FRONT TO: FORWARDTHL MARK TT MITY-MITE PRESS all new Bark Ii Mity-Mite press is a si 5 esuecially qned for bullet swaging. Tt will not reload amumation. Some of the basic features are floating, self aligning punches which allow, the Qperater ta float thy punch into the die and then leck it for use. Tk has lhe doubie acting cam similar ta the Rockchucker newever tne shart tke inch ram travel just abou the press over conventional reloading aresses. This is nat really necessary for suaging but: it docs result im loss operator fatique and altows for all the travel necessary for guaqing. The press lays horizontal to the table for easy acc have ta be caught as they are automatically ejected frem the dies. A new system of attaching the Lever to the pross hedy completely eliminates any possibility of spring in the press body, Dies ere availble in all caliberé ineludia rifle and hendguns Woe Nave a special of the manth deal. We will furnish the new Mark IT Press complete with @ set af dies for swaging 22 caliber bullets. This set will include & four cavity cara mauld for casting cores from scrap lead and alse included ja-the deal will be a special deheading dig wich will make it possible for you te denead the rims from upent catiber rim fire cases which can fine SS grain open peint bullet which is excellent fer varmint hunting And general plinking. Far tne serious panch rest shooter the same cpt of dies may ke used with factory type jackets which normally make a 52 to SE grain cpen point bullet. accessories such as lubricant, instructions and so forth, In fact Lhis set is so complete that yeu will Be able ta set up and ereduce bultoe juckuts whichever you decide to use. “3 you wish to add +i will alse include my bool ‘Compleat Guide to Making your oun Bullet Suagn Dies for tne Mity—Mite Press’. This book includes pages on such iaportant subjects as grilling, milling, reaming, lapping and aise detatied instructions on mating your aun reemers, laps and other special tooling necessary- Ll keup this special deal open thr with onty a supply af lead and apunt crn fire canes or factory As nated earlier I do aake dies in all calibers but thers ara some Lhings wach require Further afscussion Concer iaiiy sows yeu Wish to order calibers other than the 22 please write and give me As much information as possible en the tyne and use of the bullet which you wish te produce. T will then send you a detailed report concerning this caliper cucn 26 avaiiability of jackets, use of kubing for making your own jackets and so # ealisers. If So far now just send a note and say ‘send me a special deal*and your presa und dies will be shipped within ten aerking days. 1°11 know from fhe amsunt 2 you wont the guide te making swage dies. If you have any questions please be sure and call or weite for further information. 1 might mote that I have beun selling the Mmity—nite press naw for some thenty years and f cannot remember of ever having a customer who was dissatisfied with t a hetter preas than the original made!. Tf you wish ta call the number is (S05) 758-7155. Phone rings nome ang shoa. day or mite, Feel free to call when your rates are low. Shooters Becesuory Supply ZOSt N, Bay Drive North Bend, Ore. 97459Complete Guide Te Making Your Own dullet Swage Dies I have been making bullet swaging dies now far some thirty years and since I prebably do not have to many years left I felt thet 1 should try and pass on some of the knewledge that 1 have gained on the subject. Thus I have writteng this little booklet. In the early editions 1 described thrae systems which T labeled System I, If and III. The first tuo systems were concerned with making dies for a standard reloading press and System 111 told how to make swage dies for the Mity-y Nite Bullet Swage Frese whicn To make nere in my chop. in a very short tim there was just ne interest in the first two systems. T feo1 that this was caused by the great number of parts that had te be machined, special tooling necessary and this added te the Simpliciy Of making dies for the MH coupled wit which 1 offer the press for sale. Thus T only now offer the book for those interested in making dies for the H-M press. If anyone Sid with to make dies fer a standard press the information contained in this bocklet would be invaluable. In its present form the guide congints of around twenty pages printed on perforated note book type paper so that it can be inserted into a thre: hole binder. The note back gs not furnished because of the cest of packaging aad shipping. They are of course common items around most househelds or readily available in stores at @ very low price The book contains detailed information! on every process of making bullet swage dies including such subjects au driling, easing, honing, lapping, milling end se forth, [¢ goes into detail on making ones coun reamers, buliet ge compounds and so forth. Approximately one third of the gages are working drawings from uhich parts can be made. Feeling that in some instances the customer might wish to purchase parte rather. than ta machine them I have included a lige available. (An examsle of this might he the too! steal necessary to make the dies which is not nermaily available in small qusnities. On most of these my prices are very near my cost. Since tNis booklet only describes how to mabe dies for the MM press ot would be necessary for tie beuspective customer to purchase one tho many might already have them, 1 therafare am meking the press along with the booklet availabie + UPS charges prepaid ta you. I# you only want the book then it is $12.50 postpaid to you. T might mention here that when one uses the NI-MH pross ag a basis for the set then it is only necessary to meke Six parts and four of these sre very sinp actually a machinist but I did make my awn first set of swage dies without any nels from a machinist or one familiar with bullet swage die making. I know that thie maak would nave mado the task = lot simpler. . * L thank thet the averaus purchaser af this beak will fing that the most valuable part of tne whole thing is my effer of Asia after the sale. [ am sutronely amxiqus that anyone who purchases thie book succeeds in their offort te preduce swage diez. 1 ensver every Jetter J receive on the subject ang all teleph calls regardless of the time of day or niteCore SWAGE DIE THE CORE SWABE DIE 1S JUST WHAT THE NAME IMPLIES. IT IS @ DIE WHICH 18 USED TD SWAGE CORES. THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THIS DIE IS TO MAKE ALL CURES UNIFORM AS TO WEIGHT AND SHAPE. IT ALSO ELIMINATES AIR WHICH MIGHT MAVE REEN INDUCED DURING CASTINGS. THIS DIF IS GFTEN RE- FERRED TO AS A’ BLEED DIE IN THAT DURING THE SWAGING OPERATION LEAD BLEEDS OFF THRU THE BLEED HOLES SHOWN AS D IN THE PICTURE, IT 18 ALSO OFTEN CALLED @ SQUIRT DIE BECAUSE THE LEAD SQUIRTS QUT THRU THE BLEED APRATURE, + THE CORE SWAGE DIE IS MADE EXECTLY LIKE THE CORE SEATING DIE HOW- EVER THERE ARE @ FEW THINGS WHICH MUST BE CONSIDERED IN MAKING THIS DIE. IN THE DRAWING SECTION A REPRESENTS THE LENGTH OF THE DIE. E18 THE TO# PUNCH AND F THE BOTTOM PUNCH. B REPRESENTS THE CORE. SECTION C OF THE BOTTOM PUNCH WOULD OF COURSE BE EQUAL TO THE LENGTH OF THE DIE. , D IS THE BLEED HOLE. USUALLY THE DIE MAKER WILL DRILL THREE HOLES IN THE CURE SWASE DIE WHICH ARE EQUALLY SPACED AROUND THE DIR, @ 1/16 INCH DRILL SEEMS TO BE THE MOST POPULAR THO THIS TS NOT REALLY CRITICAL THEY SHOULD BE SMALL. THE PLACING OF THESE HOLES IG IMPORTANT BECAUSE DURING SWAGING THE HULES MUST BE WITHIN THE SPACE WHICH WILL BE OCCUPIED DY THE LEAD CORE B. ALSO THESE APRATURES MUST BE ABOVE THE THREADS. iF HOLE D IS TO HIGH ON THE DIE THEN PUNCH & MIGHT PASS THE MOLE DURING SWAGING AND THUS SEAL IT OFF. THE EXACT AERIA WHERE THE CORE WILL BE WITHIN THE DIE DURING SWAGING IS DETERMINED BY THE BOTTOM PUNCH. PLEASE REFER TO THE DRAWING ON PUNCHES WHICH ARE LISTED AS X,¥ AND Z. Z IS THE BOTTOM PUNCH AND THE LENGTH OF SECTION B DETERMINES JUST HOW FAR BACK IN THE DIE AERIA € WILL RECEFDF. THUS FOR A HEAVIER CORE YOU! MIGHT MAKE SECTICN B (FUNCH DRAWING) SHORTER AND VICE VERSA, THERE ARE SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN MAKING UP CORE SWAGE DIES. 1 LIKE TO USE A 1-5/8 INCH LENSTH EVEN THO IT MIGHT NOT BE NECESGARY WHEN MAKING UP FOR SMALL CALIBERS. A LONGER DIE ALLOWS THE FUNCH 7G ENTER THE DIE AND ALIGN ITSELF BEFORE THE SWAGING OPERATION REALLY BEGINS, THIS IS ALSU A FACTOR TO CONSIDER WHEN DESIGNING POINT FORMING DIES. THE CORE SWAGE DIE MUST HAVE AN EXCELLENT SURFACE FINISH OR THE CORES WILL BE HARD TO EJECT AND SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY TAPER FOR THE Same REASON. THE INSIDE DIAMETER OF THE DIE MUST BE LARGE ENOUGH 10 ACCEPT THE CORE YOU PLAN ON USING BUT IT MUST @LSO BE SMELL ENOUGH SO THAT THE SUAGED CORE WILL GU INTO THE JACKET. AGAIN REMEMBER THAT SOME JACKETS ARE TAPERED THUS SMALLER AT THE BASE THAN THEY ARE IN THE MOUTH, IT USUALLY PUT A SMALL CAVITY IN THE END GF THE BOTTOM PUNCH. I JUST USE A DRILL WHICH IS SLIGHTLY LARGER THAN THE PUNCH, THIS WILL CAUSE TRE CORES TO HAVE ONE ROUND END, THE MAIN REASON I DO THIS 18 THAT UNDER PRESSURE THE END OF THE PUNCH WILL EXPAND OUT TO THE DIE AND MAKE A BOOD SEAL, ALGO IF THE PUNCH WEARS SIZE WILL BE MAINTAINED. BOTH PUNCHES MUST BE A GOOD FIT IN THE DIE OR ELSE LEAD WILL BLEED AROUND THE PUNCH AND CAUSE RAD FINS ON THE END OF THE LEAD. USUALLY I MAKE A 22 CAL. CORE SWAGE G0 IT EJECTS a .190 INCH CORE. THIS SAME CORE DIAMETER 1S ABOUT RIGHT FOR THE .243. IT MAY BE NECESSARY TO SHORTEN SECTION B, PUNCH Z IN THE DRAWING ON PUNCHES IN ORDER FOR THE PUNCH AND DIF TO ACCOMODATE THE .743 CORE. FOR THE 30 CAL. T MAKE MY CORE SWAGE DIES .252“PUNCHES: THERE ARE ONLY FOUR PUNCHES NECESSARY TO MAKING A SET OF DIES FOR THE MITY-MITE PRESS. THE PRINT AT THE LEFT SHOWS ONLY THREE OF THESE THE REASON BEING THAT THO OF THEM ARE IDENTICAL WITH EXCEPTION OF THE DIAMETER, THE PUNCHES @RE LISTED AS ¥, Y, 2. 1 USUALLY REFER TO THESE aS BEING EITHER TOP OR BOTTOM PUNCHES. THE TOP PUNCHES ARE USED IN THE PUNCH HOLDER WHICH IN TURN 15 SCREWED INTO THE THREADED SECTION OF THE PRESS. JHE BOTTOM PUNCHES FIT INTO THE DIES WHICH IN TURN ARE SCREWED INTO THE Ran. THE PUNCH SHOWN AS X IS 4 TOP PUNCH AND AS NOTED BOTH TOP PUNCHES ARE NEAR IDENTICAL. 2 MAKE THESE PUNCHES UP IN HAT 1 CALL BLANKS. A BLANK CAN THEN BE USED 70 MAKE ANY TOP PUNCH. TO HAKE 8 BLANK GF PUNCH X I START OFF WITH STRESS PROOF MATERIAL WHICH IS 7/16 IN DIA- METER, I CUT THE MATERIAL TO AN OVERALL LENGTH OF 2-1/4 IN, I LEAVE SECTION A AT FULL DIAMETER. I THEN TURN SECTION WHICH INCLUDES B AND T TO .350. THIG THEN BECOMES A BLANK WHICH CAN BE USED FOR ALL CALIBERS WHICH GRE UNDER .350, OR PUT ANCTHER WAY EVERYTING UP TO @ MM. THE «350 IS NOT A CRITICAL DIAMETER, 37 COULD BE MADE PLUS QR MINUS TEN THOUSGNDTHS. IN USE THIS DIAMETER PASSES THRU THE BUSHING WHICH HOLDS 27 IN THE PUNCH HOLDER AND IT NEEDS 70 BE MADE ENOUGH UNDER SIZE TO FLOAT IN THE BUSHING, WHICH THEN ACCOUNTS FOR THE SAYING "FLOATING, SELF ALIGNING PUNCHES’. IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO MakE A TOP PUNCH FOR YOUR CORE SEATING AND POINT FORMING DIES AND ALSO ANY OTHER DYES SUCH AS CURE SWAGE DIES. IN USE THE TOP PUNCH IS THE PUNCH WHICH PUSHES THE COMPONENTS INTO THE DIES. THE BOTTOM PUNCHES ACT AS EJECTORS. SECTION C WILL BE TURNED ACCORDINS TO THE USE FOR WHICH IT IS INTENDED. 3 TURN SEGTION C 1 IN, LONG ON ALL PUNCHES THO AGAIN THIS IS NOT CRITICAL. IN THE FUTURE 7 WILL REFER TO THE INSIDE DIAMETER AS THE ID AND FHE OUTSIDE DIAMETER AS THE OD. WHEN MAKING UP CORE SEATING PUNCHES THE OD OF THE PUNCH WILL Be A GOOD Fil FOR THE ID OF THE JACKET BEING USED. THIS WILL ELIMINATE EXTRUSION OF LEAD AROUND THE PUNCH DURING CORE SEATING BUT THE OD G= THE PUNCH MUST BE SMALL ENGUGH SD THAT IT WILL ENTER TQ THE DEPTH NECESSARY WITHOUT DAMAGE TO THE ID OF THE gackeT. FOR THE TOP PUNCH TO BE USED WITH THE POINT FORMING DIES DIAMETER & WILL BE AS GOOD A FIT INTO THE POINT FORMING DIE AS YOU WISH TO MAKE IT. I NORMALLY TRY TO MAKE DIAMETER & ABOUT .O01 UNDER BULLET DIAMETER. THE END AT & MUST BE FLAT AND PERPENDICULAR TO THE AXIS OF THE PUNCH. THIS TS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. Y AND 7 @RE BOTTOM PUNCHES. Y IS THE TYPE USED IN POINT FORMING DIES WHICH HAVE 6 POINT SUCH AS & SPITZER BULLET. IF vou ARE SETTING UP TO MAKE THESE PUNCHES AGAIN IT 1S WELL TD MAKE THEM UP AS BLANKS. J MAKE THESE BLANKS 2 INCHES QVERALL LENGTH WITH SLOT 8 ABOUT MID WAY, SLOT IS MILLED i/4 INCH WIDE AND ABOUT 3/16 INCH DEEP. AGAIN THIS IS NOT CRITICAL. END AT TOP SHOULD HAVE A SLIGHT RADIUS SO IT WILL FLOAT IN THE RAM, THE DIAMETER OF THIS PUNCH IS 1/4 INCH. SECTION E IS THE PIN PUNCH. THIS PUNCH MUST BE MADE FROM SPRING STEEL AND BE A GUDD FIT FOR THE HOLE DRILLED IN THE POINT FORMING DIE. THIS SPRING STEEL 15 VERY INEXPENSIVE AND I SUBGEST THAT YOU ORCER THIS MATERIAL FRCM ME UN.ESS OTHERWISE AVAILABLE.F x] 9 k — koe 9 — et i nt We a < CO a“THE FOINT FORMING DIE OF ALL THE DIES YOU WILL HAVE TO MAKE THE POINT FORMING DIE 1S WITHOUT BOUBT THE STINKER IN THE WOCODPILE IF FOR NU OTHER REASON THAN THE FACT THAT IT GIVES THE FINAL SHAPE AND THUS THE FINAL APPEARENCE TO THE FINISHED PRODUCT, THE BULLET. THERE 1S ALGO THE THE PROBLEM THAT THE CORE SEATED JACKET IS FORCED INTO THE POINT FORMING DIE UNDER CONSIDERSBLe PRESSSURE AND MUST BE EJECTED FROM THE DIE WITH 4€ VERY SMALL PIN PUNCH. IF THE INSIDE SURFACE OF THE POINT FORMING DIE IS THE LEAST BIT ROUGH THEN YOU ARE ALMOST CERTAIN 10 EXPERIENCE EJECTION PROBLEMS. USUBLLY THE POINT FORMING DIE 18 STEP DRILLED. BY THIS I MEAN YOU CAN USE DRILLS SO 4S TO ROUGH OUT ALL MATERIAL POSSIBLE BEFORE REAMING. I USE 3/4 INCH STOCK FOR ALL MY DIES. THE RAM OF THE mM PRESS IS THREADED FOR A 5/8 X 24 THREAD SO NO STOCK SMALLER THAN 3/8 INCHES CAN BE USED. IT 1S NOT NECESSARY TO RELIEVE THE TOP OF THE THREADS AS THERE IS A RELIEF IN THE MOUTH OF THE RAM. WHEN MAKING PARTS WHICH MUST BE HARDENED IT IS WELL TO ELIMINATE AS FAR AS POSSIELE ANY UNNECESSARY CUTS SUCH AS A THREAD RELIEF. t WOULD RECOMEND THAT YOU FIND A PIECE OF SOFT STEEL SUCH AS A FREE MACHINING STEEL AND EXPERIMENT WITH YOUR DRILLING AND REAMING. IF YOU DO NOT SEEM 70 BE HAVING SUCESS WITH THIS TYPE OF MATERIAL, IT Ts CERTAIN THAT YOU WILL HAVE GREATER PROBLEMS WiTH ANY TYFE OF TOOL STEEL. GENERALLY ONE CAN CONSULT @ CHART ON THE MACHINASILITY UF & STEEL AND DETERMINE JUST HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO PREFORM ANY TYPE OF MACHINING OFERATION. IF YOU FEEL THE LE@ST BIT OF CHATTER AG THE HALF REAMER IG CUTTING THE CAVITY YOU WILL HAVE TO ELIMINATE THIS PROBLEM BEFURE YOU ARE GOING TU HAVE ANY SUCCESS, IT IS A GOOD iDEA TO CUT THE REANED DIE IN HALF TF POSSIBLE aND EXAMINE THE MILLED SURFACE FOR ABRASIONS. THESE CAN BE CAUSED BY A STEP DRILL OR BY THE HALF REAMER. YOU MIGHT AS WELL ELIMINATE THESE BEFORE YOU WASTE ANY EXPENSIVE TOOL STEEL BECAUSE THEY WILL GET WORSE, NOT RETTER. IN ANOTHER FART I SUGGESTED THAT I ONLY USE TWO LENGTNS OF DIES WHICH WERE 1-5/@ AND 1-7/8 INCH IN LENGTH. YOU MUST REAM AT LEAST ONE AND A HALF TIMES THE LENGTH OF THE BULLET @ND YOU NEED AT LEAST 1/4 INCH OF SECTION FOR THE EJECTOR PIN, SHOWN AS N ON THE DRAWING. THUS IF UNE WERE USING & 1 INCH LONG JACKET THE POINT CAVITY SHOULD BE RE@MED 1-1/2 PLUS 1/78 INCH AND STILL HAVE 1/4 FOR THE EJECTION PIN, THE MOUTH OF THE DIE SHOULD BE CHAMPHERED TO GUIDE THE PUNCH INTO THE DIE. I USE THE 1-S/@ INCH DIES FOR THE 22, 243 @ND ALL CORE SEATING DIeS. T USE THE 1-7/8 INCH FOR ALL LARGER FOINT FORMING DIES. YOU WILL FIND THAT THIS CAUSES SOME WASTE HOWEVER IT DOES ELIMINATE HEL TO STANDARDIZE THE DIES AND AT THE SAME TIME PUNCH LENGTH. 1 HIGHLY RECOMEND THE USE GF GRAPH-MD FOR MAKING THESE DIES BECAUSE THE MACHINIST JS GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH PROELENS MAKING HIS FIRST SET OF DIES WITHOUT BORROWING ANY. GRAPH-MG AS SUGGESTED RY THE NAME IS A GRAPHIC STEELL WHICH IS EXCELLENT FOR THIS PURPOSE. IT ° REACTS WELL TO HEAT TREATMENT AND TT IS NOT A CRITICAL STEEL. YOU WILL EXPERIENCE VERY LITTLE WAAPAGE WHEN USING GRAPH-NO.