technologies and thank you for joining us on this webinar we at cersei technologies have been hosting the series of webinar series as a platform to showcase the technologies which have been developed by the water division at e3 our first session was a detailed excellent presentation on the biological treatment solutions developed by uh the water team at i treat it taiwan and we cover the anaerobic sludge bed aerobic process of bio-net and the sludge on our youtube channel as well this webinar will be covering the advanced oxidation processes and fentanyl technologies that the water division team at e3 have developed the fur the webinar will be divided into two parts the first part we'll be discussing is and also full scale applique covering the advanced oxidation processes and how it can be applied as a pre-treatment step as well in biological treatments and how it improves the efficiency of the system the end of each uh part we'll be having a brief q a session as well with the panelists so joining us as a speaker for the first session uh for the first part session and he joined e3 in 2015 and is a researcher at the water division team at e3 taiwan he's currently working on developing advanced membrane technology and biological treatment solutions for water treatment thank you dr yen for joining us we are very interested and excited to hear what you have to say over to you thank you okay can you see the fly yes we can see it yep you can make it a full screen okay good morning ladies and gentlemen thank you to everyone who joined this conference code my name is john yen today i would like to talk about phantom family technology i hope this can help you to understand e3's restaurant treatment technology first i will talk some general information on adobe ester oxidation process chemical explanation is to decompose organics to carbon dioxide and water with oxygen and the most active technology is lp lp contains many technologies including phantom and the combination of chorom hydrogen peroxide and uv light or hydrogen peroxide and metal ions or uli and the senate hunter conductors but let's measure they have some purpose less lead is generating hydrogen radical for oxidation the most commonly technology authentic and uv with our own phantom master is a kind of lp which use hydrogen peroxide to generate hydrogen radical using various ions as catalysts and the lymphatic hydroside is final product hydrotheradical is one of the strong oxygen and oxidation potential of hydrogen radical is triceline curry this photo is very hydra sized sludge in general the color of the stud is dark brown in 1894 bender is one first person who found this creation so call it gentle message the trouble with phantom reaction is generating much ferric site large so regard to pay a lot of money for separation and disposal based anthology reduction is to develop a series phantom technology we call it phantom family the most used technology offend on three and the phantom four the ferro phantom is used to treat higher cod wastewater suitable for over 1 000 milligram per lead and the fbi phantom is used to treat lower cod western one should work for below one thousand milligrams the organic waste water could be divided into refractory and non-refractory in general non-refractory where the water goes to conventional biological treatment unit and refreshed factory where the water goes to federal bureaucratic units or biological treatment unit finally fbr content can treat procedural refractory cod to meet the environment standard this table is comparisons of the treatment for refractory high cod western water including in generation west sedation super crystal freeze you relied with all wrong in the conventional sentence medicine and the feral phantom the incineration and uv light with orange and ferrofenton could be used to trade theory over ten thousand milligrams per liter the capital cost of conventional central measure is the lowest and the incineration is highest but the operating cost of paraphernalia is lowest ranging between 2.3 and 4.4 us dollar per kilogram cod moreover the early advantage of aerophantom is lowest large generation this table is comparation of treatment for refractory lower field with the water including membrane separation carbon absorption chemical coordination or wrong and conventional vendor method and the fbi benefits the capital cost of conventional content medicine is the lowest but the operating cost of fbi advantage is only higher than chemical cooperation the removable efficiency is only lower land membrane separation in addition raj of fbr phantom is reduced 70 percent compared to phantom method next i would like to talk about pharaoh phantom metal in traditional phantom reaction various ion will be oxidized to varying ions but the valid ion can be reduced to various ions by electro chemical reaction enveloping so the very iron we will be reduced to various iron and the cathode at so you can see here therefore the various ion can react with hydrogen peroxide continuously and also they also could decrease the consumption of iron agent and the raj volume over 70 percent in this test shielded source was acetic acid and its initial concentration that was 10 00 milligram per liter it sets our creation time the cod of phantom process only decreased to six solar mingling per liter fatherless theory of feral phantom process can down to one character per liter our speaking removal efficient of ferrofontane is highland traditional phantom method in addition in addition barofontan is a kind of electrochemical reaction so its temperature will goes to around 60 frequency place higher length conventional sentence reaction in this in this test verify was applied to treat heterochemical waste or water hexamine is a kind of refractory organics less not easy to treat by traditional biological treatment please see this chart which looks cody could be decreased from 17 milligram values to below 500 milligram per liter but elaborating is is economical when reaction time is over four hours because you have to waste too much hydrogen peroxide for remo lower cod this this cover of this curve this curve means to match residual oxygen in western water it says hydrogen peroxide agent this this case is application of ferrofandom for treating watching waste water from a semiconductor plant this watching water water contains ipa acetone mea and then phenol this cod is 11 solid milligram per liter and foray around one cmd this bench test have four steps first one the waste water goes through buffer tank and get into reaction tank at the same time the velcro ion will reduce to various ions in electrolytic tank and the various ion can react with hydrogen for outside continuous by keeping water cycle with creation tank next step is next step is a sedimentation and the ph of the adjustment after purifier process the treated waste of water goes to discharge and the ions large sludge will be dissolved in ph 2 for next operation this photo is electrolytic tank inside [Music] and [Music] here is castle screen not least this picture is electron this is a aberration panel this one is this one is reaction tank and here is electrolytic tank and the list is clarifier we can see ph vo or important information on the panel this tab shows the data from the test runs the theory of influence influence are ranging between 10 000 to 25 000 milligram per liter and then removal emissions of cod are all over 95 percent imperial phantom process after said evidence of the meditation process the the influence is very clear and the theory are all below one solar mingling for later next i would like to introduce fbi fbi vendor is of kind of random methods based on 3d light condition when a painting reaction is carried out in tower like power like reactor the ion oxide will create or right on the carrier to achieve the strategy reduction it it could decrease over 60 percent large compared to transitional random message fbi content could be used for treating refractory with the water difficult with water or the button containing with water the fbi venting is similar to conventional phantom mess they also have a homogeneous reaction for produce hydro theoretical so other carrier has captured heterogeneous reaction of iron outside to produce hydro radicals so we can set the dosage of ferrous iron and reduce the cost of sludge treatment in the disposal please see this photo the color of carrier will slowly change to dark brick which is related to thickness of iron outside layer this case is for treating abs resin with the water the theory of the raw water is 3 00 milligram per liter and the cod with gray decreased to below 200 milligrams lead after biological treatment in fb abundant unit the theory of influence are ranging between 100 to 150 milligram per liter finally the cod and the access of average are below 60 milligram per liter and the current immigrant liter respectively this one is tower like fbi patent reactor and the apple are upper right is top view of reactor please see lower lower right place a water distributor for fluid stabilization here are other photos of equipment including recycled water pumper finally this table is fan of family application for your information but the information is in recent years has not been updated so this is relatively or information this is the end of my presentation thank you [Music] thank you thank you dr yen for that present detailed presentation on we have one question from mr suresh who would like to know is your technology similar to electrocoagulation i think it's uh slightly different also they are all using can sorry and can you speak a bit louder please because sorry uh let me briefly mention about that the actual coagulation is different to the electrical oxidation which we call it's like a fentanyl process and the phantom process is to generate the oil radicals in the water solution by the electron transfer yeah and also they use some like the vented a tendon reagents like ferrous and hydroxyl peroxide hydrogen peroxide and the electro coagulation is by using some spatial material of the electrodes like the aluminium and the fairies and to produce this kind of ion in the solution and have the coagulation phenomena occurs so it's different mechanisms about the organic decomposition process from the attendees on this uh part of the session i don't think we have uh at this moment oh we've got one more from mr mossy who would like to know why is ph dependent and how can we work with aop on different types of ph can you split again why is why aop is ph dependent and how can we work with aop on different on every ph normally we will do some preliminary study because for the like a strong oxygen like earth radicals which is more suitable in acidic condition especially in the phantom process so normally we will do a preliminary study about different kind of situations called organic decompositions kind of electrodes are suitable for fenton process what what kind of electrodes are suitable for fenton process okay for this kind of issue normally we will use like this soluble uh soluble anal material which is called in coding kind kind of like a metal oxides in titanium substrates and these are the electrical materials we commonly use and which can stand for the long-term extreme conditions like the strong acidic and the high oxidation conditions okay okay thank you uh thank you dr juan and thank you dr yen that was an excellent first half of the session so we could move on to the second part of the part of this session we have dr chun chili who is the researcher who is a researcher at the water division team at taiwan he received his phd from the national singsoir university and his uh research was focused on the utilization of advanced oxidation processes in treating semiconductor wastewater and variable eop systems tested as pre-treatment system for biological treatment first session and hi over to you please thank you okay so we can start to share let's lie okay oh hello uh this is chinchilly i come from e3 lab and today is my presentation topic transition to all of you here at the advanced aspecting process the military professor that dr yan have targeted before and this process was applied as a pre-treatment process for the enhancement of the biological treatment efficiency and just just like the topics like the cod treatment method will be related to divide into two parts one is the biotreatment and then the other one is the physical method and using the bio treatment we got many kind of advantages like a la the footprint and no no no the cost is lower you know using energy conditions you can trade it volume to eight to 10 kilo kilogram per tonnes per day using rc conditions you can maybe to two or three loading and the organic carbons will transferring to the methane carbon dioxide in the biomass and for fully physical method we use an aop just like the battery have been mentioned about is the phantom reaction to use the hydrogen peroxide reactions with the various ions and then produce the hydrocele radicals and to attack the carbon to carbon carbon carbon carbon links to the carbon dioxides and then the other one is usually ub oxidation uv oxidation use the uv light to react with the water and reduce the hydroxyl radical but it's more important with the the waters you your target compound should be transparencies otherwise the uv will be inhibited and then the final one is the oxidation using the older or chemical chemicals like a sulfate and here he considered see there comparisons between this chemical this method and you can find out a lot using the biological method which you can get a long low-cost effect low cost and high high effective efficiency but is it hard to control because of the if the compound is numbered non- biodegradable or is a bio-inhibitor then your biological system cannot treat this kind of cods however using aopa if you don't need to face this kind of problems everything like high concentrations or hearts with hard degraded theods can be decomposes just use the chemicals reactions but there's more uh these disadvantages than the chemical risk residues use painting no matter which kind of venting is between one and two final depending four you will re you reach the various ion or ferric ions residues in your immune systems that can affect the water if you need to reclaim these waters to return to the water systems so if we can combine these two kind of systems then then you we can use the system to do the hurricane waters now we can know the biological treatment uh if we apply in a reclaimed water uh that you can water after you can water from the municipal water or industrial this is a after the secondary treatment we can see from the slightest is a the fresh water come from the factory or before a pre-treatment process and primary secondary this is a biological treatment and the release the cod content was low because content was low around 30 to 80 ppms but the release of the cod's number degradable is produced on particle biodegradable and if you want to use a biological treatment to trigger the bio inhibitors like the peptides herbicides antibiotics or pharmaceutical waste waters and then this kind of like penicillin or methylene total is under the low concentration is inhibited for biological treatment so in this case the biological system can have so many advantages that we have the cost effect is cheap and they can a huge high throughput of to treat the codes but to face these kind of situations recognize about lots of treatment to do it so here we introduce the older odons into the system as a future and allow us to do some properties of the ozones in 1840s organ was used artificially in france and after 20 years later on was the first applied in airstrikes in paris and later in 50 years later was applied first in water purification in new york and the most important thing is the half-life of the ozone in under 25 degrees celsius in airs the half-life of the ozone is around 20 to 20 to 100 hours most important is around normal conditions in waters the half-life of the ozone is around three hours especially with some impurity like the cod or impurity of the ions in size the half-life of the ozone can be decreased into 30 to 50 minutes so that's the reasons and the most important as if you used all them as the protruding systems warm it won't affect the secondary tuli biological systems so if you use use ozone as an oxidant and first we call emission steps we also will react with the water to produce hydroxyl radicals more importantly under oxycontin under the best conditions it will produce more hydroxyl radicals and then radicals and then finally terminated so in these steps we can find a lot the oral treatment can we can can both can conduct on the neutral ph and the higher ph values except the acidity gauge values so it can work so here's the summaries of our acts reactions yet we can divide into two parts is one is the direct reactions and the secondary secondary reactions and the rest directly actually call it as organisations is also as uh assigned to oxidized and the second variation is in order to react with the water and produce the hydrocele radicals and the ph values should be higher than seven on the fb in the best conditions it may work and the most important is the the byproducts using automation by products barriers you can divide it the boundaries of the compounds you can but if you use the hydroxyl radicals it can produce it can mineralize the clds into co2 carbon dioxide so if you use an ozone without the uh we allow the high dosage and we can transplant the cod of organic hormone inside to the small part or to detoxify the dods and we use although irregular water systems is very important is another result of the reclined waters being the water take from the traditional circle or industrial influence and after a lot you can find on the the figures here you can find out there's the analysis of the influence of living in a separate industrial influence the tlc analyzes the molecular weight of the plc inside you can find a lot this one is in a family separating industrial influence the tlc contain high count high content of the non-biodegradable plc however compared to the top waters layers coming along so if you if we use the recycling use of the uh industrial influence we will face that the we use the the major peripheral technologies edro this kind of huge molecules will cause a serious membrane points or bowel forms so if you you use the recline wall system we use it uh normally we don't use we we use the mf to to filter build it and then we compare to us and then to our system to purify cis to purify if we don't have the pre-treatment then our ufo our system will easily to easily fall by this kind of the big compound of the tclds so we are easily to use the biosystem in front of the as a pre-treatment treatment to treat this kind of the clds but the cod released from the secondary treatment the cods cannot be easily too decomposed by the biological system so in here we are first introduced using the ozone as pre- treatment systems to digest or to decompose this kind of blue market macro molecules into small molecules and enhance the power degradations so in their own applications traditionally it was set up in front of our system to prevent the growth of microorganisms that were frequently used or used the final treatment process not only for the sterilization sometimes optimized to prevent the acid informing release of the high congestion cld into into the cld so firmly quantification is likely ozone dosage to steal the mineralization dlp is around two to four times it's indicated that the program of the ozone was needed to mineralize one ground of cld it caused a huge amount of ozone but if we think it in in other angles if we combine ozone as a biological system we can use a small dosage of ozone and then to just to break the boundaries of the cods and they can enhance the biological process they can best lessen the stem uh behave behaviors so who can as a piece as a pre-treatment process in front of the biological system and to enhance the biological treatment efficiency it increases the lower hormone dose it was applied just to break parts of the chemical bondings from experiments normally is around point five to point five ozone loading to still be was amended which means the last order on loadings must turn 40 times lower than the traditional ones if we combine the ozone system to the biological systems compared to the simple organizations here's a pilot study we set up in cultural city and in the one industrial park to as a resource so uh traditionally we'll use the uh mmf as the first the first stage and then to the uf system and then to the r or india system full of verifications so in this case we'll use the aopa mmf and then aop systems we use the ozone as a proteomic system and then combine to the biological system to enhance the biological behaviors to digest or to digest the cods and here is the organic content species analysis in the in this science park we can finalize in the rural water can be the clt completed by the 3d part one is the low molecular weight and the humid excellent and the most important is the molecule molecules be called a biopolymers which are thought will get a serious falling on the membranes so in a row water years around big values around 50 50 the coincidental density and after simple to the bionic systems the biopolymers also remain remaining because the biological system cannot decompose or just about polymers and then to the organ systems there's nothing happens because the voltage of the ozone is lower and they can just change the species inside the market molecules to small molecules but it will not change the cld values however if we combine all them to the boundary system with reloading to the to from zero to one point two values or almost to the dld values we can follow around 0.5 loadings we can change the abilities around 40 times 40 percent of the co2 blt it which means that the bowel polymer can be decomposed after all of the oral treatment and they can be digested by the bounded by by the biological systems which means that the biopolymer will be decreased as you can see the green light years and it is more important is that with with the lower content of the biopolymers we can use the uf membrane to test it we can use the water you have membrane foreign tests we call it uh i mean contestant using the water to penetrate a membrane we can find a lot with the treated water amount uh the flocks were decreased without the treatment and the balance system were decreased sharply and with the ozone also sharply but with the ozone with the odon combined with the article systems the flux will decrease slowly and we are applied in the real pilot scales is the 200 cubic meter today is the pilot scales we have applied it we can finalize with without the treatment only the boweling systems the flux will decrease in after 15 tons of the of the use of the floss will decrease sharply however if we combine with their own systems or oral systems with the organ in the heart in in front of balance of biological system or in the actually the treatment biological signal treatment the the plus or sorry the flux of the membranes or can be maintained which means that the combination of the ozone can treat pre-treat the still this into the bottle about credible and enhance the biological treatment and it can enhance the the uf the use life of the uf and the more in reflected our system or adr systems which can decrease the the the become water cost and here we are you we use intui uh antibiotic or herbicide or peptides of the last uh of our inhibitors is like i just want to tell you that this is a very complicated uh process because this kind of the compound even underneath uh low concentration is also in inhibited truly biological systems and after uh ozone treatment to break down the tool to break the the balance and become to the small molecules sometimes also a toxic to the biological system trying to test up for every steps and just want to show you that we can use discount from reference we can use this kind of the the testing to know that which steps should be located in which part and in which cases she can use which kind of the aov system in which part and he has access research from the references is on to the herbicide is a tbtosdt like the structure like we have shown here and it is the beta check tone keep sites used for important images of fashion and columns and the loading of the header side also to have some more ratios 0 to 2 2 and with the increase with the increase of the also ozone loading to 0.5 to 0.75 to 0.75 uh the decrease of the sct was transferring to the other bipod compounds and then decreased the slowly with the inhibit inhibitions around 40 percent so it means a lot we decrease the discount over herbicide but the residue still has inhibitions but we did decrease the inhibition percent and then the most important part is the automation we should put the oval into the water and dissolve all those very dependent on the temperatures so here we use the normal bubbles but if we can transfer into the microfiber bubbles let's increase the surface area normally if we change from the normal bubble to some microphone size the reaction surface will increase the 10 10 000 times higher however more almost over the density change the length of the length of stay time in water increase because the micro bubble fine bubble is high is it is higher so it will come it will precipitate on the bottom of the waters so enlarge the reaction time so the overall the counting time transferring from normal bubble to the microphone bubbles can increase around two hundred thousand times paralleling the all bubbles now it can use in the situation with the height a little bit higher temperatures situations so here goes the conclusion that in the use the ozone combined with the biological systems in the reclaimed waters although can be applied as the procurement of the biosystem to break very integrated organic matters name without a serious ph controls ph not not except the acidity you get hydrogen fiber you can go this kind of the phenomena and then the old dosage cultural at only five to point five times of the stereo content should be case by case but normally lower than one time no longer than one to one the result shows that all ozone has the pre-treatment can prevent the falling on the membrane systems and and as polybiological inhibitors it is seriously because we cast by case you depend on which kind of the structure which kind of compact we use that we are faces you can in a different process using alzheimer's to do the detoxification and enhancing the more about the probabilities and normally also longing was dependent on targets normally around 0.5 to 2. and the automatic bubbles we are applied to increase the organ content times which was uh it will spend a little bit of the electricity but they can enhance the great dissolver all ozone environments so here we are present one kind of interesting combination of the ozone as the pre-treatment of the biological systems and the results you know can give the support like that with the other free treatment can do enhance the biological treatment so this is the today's presentation and thanks for your attention thank you just thank you dr lee i think uh that was quite interesting to see how we could use the ozone system as a pre-treatment method so uh maybe now at this point we have any questions from any of the participants if you could just put it in the q a or the chat box if you'd like to ask dr lee any questions pertaining to this type of technology i don't think we have any questions as yet i have actually a question uh you know dr lee you know this is quite an interesting thing is this being applied currently only at five scale or are they full scale applications of using this pre-treatment step [Music] we are just in the beginning we have a lab scale tester and the one is we have shown the slices in pilot scales it's around 200 200 200 cubic meter days the pilot scales and we test this kind of the phenomena yeah and we do the greater resulting to prove that the ozone can be as a protein system that we have never seen in the pilot scales yeah but we can only yes okay that's quite interesting and what kind of industries do you see this being applied in what kind of effluent treatment plants what kind of uh effluent treatment plants uh like what kind of industries what what specific uh in in in our pilot scale test that we are using uh as all we clean water systems we use the influence of the industrial or municipal waters that get treated after the plant the treated waters but this contains some reticulum dod that will fall on the membrane but cannot be removed by the biological plastic system again so we use the ozone in front of the biological system to digest the cod into the biodegradable and we are trying to fast into the purpose of purpose our minister or the pharmaceutical of industries but it is really hard because it should be know exactly what kind of the compound we used and after the aop treatment it may be that the detox may be not so significant but we are trying to do how to enhance this kind of bioinhibitors to live biodegradables using all those treatments but it needs to be tested by cassidy okay okay and uh we have a question from mr marumutu who would like to know what about waste generation in the use of ozone western uh what about the waste generation when you use ozone oh western what's the generation no because we if we use aop we can select many kinds of the eop system like in the purpose you can use the phantom reaction but it will produce the ferric mirror other minerals but if we use the ozone and then we have presented a slide all the way to decomposed in waters you have life around 30 to 15 minutes and the economy also will decompose into osteo and waters so in and especially while combined to the biological systems we are choosing to take an economic without any chemical resistant in size so that's why we are choosing the ozone as a pre- treating process okay and we've got another question uh we've got you mentioned about recalcitrance does this apply to [Music] urging contaminants too like pharma and personal care products you mentioned about emerging contaminants uh you mentioned about using ozone treatment for emerging contaminants does it apply i can use it in farmer treatment and personal care yeah we use all those final stages that's to prevent the emerging release of the cell disaster you use the high concentration of the ozone to treat it now we have we are frequently seen in taiwan using the ozone oral fentanyl final steps to treat this kind of suddenly released of the cld okay we have another question from dr ganeshan it's quite a thing which is on i'm sure in all our minds is ozone treatment and economical treatment only although treatment is not economical because it cost a lot of money but this one i just want to link the ozone system to the biological system although it's only to treat it part of the ozone so it's around uh compared to traditional year to the mineralization is around 40 times lower compared to the normal organization process just we combine the horizontally biological system to decrease to have an advantage of the low cost of the biological system but can also have the ozone process to the enhance the electrical treatment so we combine it we can become balanced to process the the price will be lower than the normal hormone use okay so if we're basically so if we invest in this our overall savings comes down so we have an overall savings in the overall opex essentially comes down for the plant okay it's kind of hard to know about credible codes but it will affect your your systems if later maybe that our membranes you will fall in your membranes and you will need to flush or to wash our membranes they if you pay a little bit of the ozone inside it can prevent a serious problem happen later so that's why we are trying to push this kind of technique and combine these two together that's very interesting to know so by adopting this we are having lowering the chances of ro fouling as well and all our membranes downstream and i would imagine even the uf membranes as well uh we have a question from dr emmanuel who would like to know can the microbubble system be added to existing ozone units uh it can generate easily with a simple equipment but it is not a method we can use a simple equipment to produce the micro bubbles yeah okay i i i did not show it's very detailed because it is we can purchase is it is a product that you can purchase from you can purchase it it's a machine that can generate bubbles then you can just link to the yeah oh so you can do it yeah yeah yeah yeah okay okay and uh we've got um uh yeah i think and then how much sludge is produced during the process how much such there's no sludge in this i think it is only for the biological treatment only for followed by extremely we are trying to treat the the carbohydrate the cld into the co2 solar charge will be layer it will be less except yes the yield of the biological system is 0.4 one gram of the stealth point will produce the point two two point four of the clds if we use an acid conditions okay we have a question uh we have a question from miss serenia who'd like to know if there are residual radicals of ozone won't it affect the subsequent biological processes yeah if you add the high dosage of the ozone but we don't need it because the old dosage should be calculated especially for the calculator clds we are mentioned about point two to point point one point 2.5 loading of the compared to the cld inside and we have discussed before the ozone in water especially we have substitute or impurity inside the half-life around 15 to 30 minutes so it will affect it will decompose during the transformation transfer from the ozone part to the biological part inside the piping they will be decomposed of the ozone so it's really to infect the biological systems but it will happen but it can be controlled okay okay okay wow that's very interesting and uh so this is quite a new technology then and it's it's quite new it's very new technology which you are working on and um i mean it's still only a pilot 200 cmd plant you mentioned okay good so it's i think peaked most of our interests as well especially mine so uh thank you dr lee i think that was an excellent session thank you for answering all of our questions i think we have some more questions we will try and answer by email thank you everyone for joining joining us for this uh webinar uh our next webinar will be on uh edr the electro dialysis reversal process and fluidized bed crystallization which we will have in a couple of weeks the details of which we will post on our linkedin page and also share with you by email the edr uh i'm sure i think most of you know that we will be uh we have been uh facilitating pilot plan trials of the india system at ranitek ctp where we've been treating the uh arrow reject that that's produced there so as i'm sure most of you know it is the harshest tannery effluent that uh that is produced so we'll be showcasing these results as well in our next showcase webinar if you would like to interested in these technologies would like to know more please do reach out to us at sourcing technologies we have a technical collaboration with e3 taiwan and we're promoting the technologies in india so if you'd like to know more how you can implement this at your treatment site please reach out to us and we could schedule a call a video consultation even if required and we could see how we could proceed with your requirement thank you everyone this webinar will be uploaded on our youtube youtube channel thank you again to our speakers dr yen dr lee thank you excellent sessions as always thank you dr juan for helping out as well thank you everyone thank you thank you bye bye bye bye everybody thank you see you all soon bye you