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From Creativity, to Technology, to Social Change:

How Bass is Shaping the Future

Author: Gareth Hughes B00768977

Date: 10 January 2019

Supervisor: Dr. Adam Melvin

Word count: 6,325

This research essay is submitted in partial fulfilment of the requirements of the

Masters in Creative Music at the University of Ulster.

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ABSTRACT

This research paper aims to detail how bass players have embraced an ever-

evolving technology, to forge a new lineage in bass playing and music making.

More than this, it may have contributed to social change. This paper aims to

investigate stages of cultural evolution through the lens of bass playing and

instrument innovation, acknowledging the cause and effect the bass has had on

social change.

The electric bass, a hybrid instrument with an electric guitar and double bass

heritage, will be shown as fertile ground in a rapidly changing musical

environment. Further, how it in turn influenced a new approach to double bass

playing, and how they both morph between a position of deferential subservience

and a self-contained musical entity.

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CHAPTER 1: Our Fender who art in heaven....

While the name Fender is synonymous with the electric guitar and the myriad

styles of music in which it is used, it is rarely thought of in the light deserving

of a true revolutionary innovator. Leo Fender himself did not set out to start a

revolution. His goal was to simply use his engineering talents and his passion

for music to help some guitarist friends fill the role of the bass player in their

groups, without learning how to play the cumbersome double bass. But as is

often the case with life changing discoveries that occurred by accident, such

as penicillin and stainless steel, Fender invented something that had a much

larger reach, beyond the scope of helping a few friends.

In Jim Robert’s book, ‘How The Fender Bass Changed The World’, the

introduction of the Fender Precision Bass guitar in October of 1951 was the

catalyst that enabled the pre-existing styles of country and western, rockabilly

and R&B to slowly merge into Rock and Roll. ‘Most histories of popular music

focus on the electric guitar as the crucial instrument in the evolution of rock &

roll. It played an absolutely essential role, to be sure – but it was really the

Fender bass that made possible the forward progress of this new genre.

Without it, rock & roll might never have moved beyond the crude (if

captivating) sound of the young Elvis on That’s All Right or Chuck Berry on

Maybellene.’ (Roberts, 2001, p.42)

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Helping to forge a new musical genre is not the change that Roberts argued

for, but rather the changing of opinions, minds and, indeed, of lives

themselves. ‘It may seem simplistic to ascribe social change to the invention

of a musical instrument, but the line of causality is clear: without the Fender

bass rock music as we know it was simply not possible.’ (Roberts, 2001,

p.181)

To expand that argument, there would be no Beatles or Rolling Stones

without the Fender Bass, as the volume that these bands demanded was

simply not possible with a traditional double bass. In a 1989 interview,

discussing how the rhythms used in this new form of music called rock and

roll evolved, Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards said that ‘it suddenly

changed in ‘58, ’59, ‘60, until it was all over by the early 60’s. The drummers

were starting to play eight to the bar, and I thought at first maybe they were

just going for more power. Then I realised that, no, it was because of the

bass, the advent of reliable electric bass guitar. The traditional double bass

went bye-bye.’ (Roberts, 2001, p.58)

The Fender bass now gave the bass player in any group a newfound voice,

with an authority that could not be ignored. With a clearer sound and

increased prominence on stage, musicians and arrangers were now

beginning to use different bass patterns. The simple introduction of this new

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instrument, coupled with the success of groups such as the Beatles and

various acts on the Motown label, was now beginning to affect how music was

being written and performed. Nelson Riddle, the longtime arranger for Frank

Sinatra, said that ‘all sorts of interesting lines are possible on the Fender

bass. I’m sure that many of these are possible on the string bass but, due to

the great resonance of the Fender, they sound with more authority when

played on that instrument.’ (Riddle, 1985, p.102) The rhythm section as a

whole unit changed ‘and with the change came a whole new series of bass

lines.’ (Riddle, 1985, p.101)

Contemporary with those bands was a fertile music scene that produced

bands such as Cream, The Yardbirds, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, and so

many more. The music of these bands became a uniting element for many

social movements. ‘During the 1960’s, the primordial sound of early rock &roll

was transformed into something much more potent and influential. The power

of the electric bass, in the hands of such innovators as James Jamerson (at

Motown Records) and Paul McCartney (of The Beatles), was critical in this

transformation. And rock music was no longer just a diversion; it was, as

Christopher Porterfield of Time put it, ‘the language of a new generation

determined to usher in sweeping social change.’ (Roberts, 2001, p.181)

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CHAPTER 2: Beyond Fender

Although the Fender bass has long been established as an indispensable

ingredient in countless groups in just as many genres, its success was not

instantaneous. ‘The Precision Bass was greeted with little enthusiasm and

gained limited acceptance at first. Only a few P-Basses [sic: Precision Bass]

were sold in the early 1950’s.’ (Roberts, 2001, p.180)

The electric bass was shoehorned into many situations, until enough

visionaries persevered and the instrument was rewarded with commercial

success and critical acceptance. For purists, it was to be avoided. Many of its

early adopters were either reluctant guitar players or double bassists. Double

bass players looked at it as a guitar. Guitar players looked at it as some kind

of lesser guitar. “None of us wanted to be the bass player,” admits Beatles

bassist Paul McCartney. “It wasn’t the #1 job. In our minds it was the fat guy

in the back of the group who nearly always played the bass. We wanted to be

up front singing, looking good, to pull the birds.” (Coryat, 1999, p.172) Even its

first true visionary, James Jamerson, came from a double bass playing

background, bringing much of his jazz heritage to the instrument. It would be

at least 20-25 years from its introduction until the instrument was a first choice

for an aspiring musician, someone with no association to either the guitar or

the double bass.

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The electric bass guitar, regardless of brand or manufacturer, did come to be

accepted by musicians and the public alike. This was thanks to an increasing

use by prominent studio musicians such as Carol Kaye, James Jamerson and

Joe Osborn in the US and John Paul Jones and Herbie Flowers in the UK.

The emerging popularity of the ‘British Invasion’ bands like the Beatles, the

Rolling Stones, Manfred Mann, the Kinks, the Who and many more also

played a crucial role.

Fender continued to experiment and move forward with new instruments, like

the Fender Jazz Bass, introduced in 1960. By this stage, other companies

that had initially resisted these new developments, such as Gibson,

Rickenbacker and Danelectro, began to produce their own bass guitars. Such

was the success of the Fender bass however that, from its introduction in

1951 until the early 1970s, all electric basses were referred to by the generic

name Fender, regardless of their origin.

Just as Leo Fender had been a pioneering engineer looking for a way to solve

a musical problem, so too was Carl Thompson, a luthier from Brooklyn, NY.

Whilst Fender had conceived of his bass guitar as the result of many guitar

playing friends who were losing work as they could not play the double bass,

Thompson was engaged to fulfil the desires of one individual, Anthony

Jackson. Already a successful session bassist in New York City, Jackson

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conceived the idea of a 6- string bass, with one lower and one higher string

than a regular four string bass, after practicing with records by jazz organist

Jimmy Smith. When Jackson heard Smith playing a note with the organ foot

pedals that extended below the range of a standard tuned four string bass, he

decided it was “one I simply had to play.” (Roberts, 2001, p.133) Jackson

contended that the bass guitar should have always had six strings, as he

believed it to be a member of the guitar family, not the violin family as the

double bass is generally considered. As Jackson said, “the only reason it had

four strings was because Leo Fender was thinking in application terms of an

upright bass, but he built it along guitar lines because that was his training.”

(Roberts, 2001, p.134)

Like the Precision Bass on its introduction, this new instrument, the

Contrabass Guitar, as Jackson calls it, was viewed with suspicion at first.

Comments such as “You tell Anthony Jackson if he wants to bring his ‘science

experiment,’ then let him book his own sessions. I want to see the Fender!”

(Jisi, 2008, p.32) soon made their way back to Jackson.

Thanks to Anthony Jackson’s pursuit of his musical vision, and the adoption of

that instrument by others, the 6-string bass has become an established

instrument in its own right. The synthesizer dominated sounds of the 1980s

gave way to the guitar orientated sounds of grunge by the end of that decade.

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New bands and styles were emerging in which being the front man of a three-

piece alternative band and playing a 6-string fretless bass, such as in the

case of Primus, was not as radical an idea as it might have once been.

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CHAPTER 3: Going low, going lower, going lowest

The invention, and subsequent evolution, of the 6-string bass, and its myriad

offshoots known as Extended Range Basses with upwards of seven or more

strings, would remain a small footnote in the grand scheme of music making

were it not for the new paths they helped forge.

The 6-string bass is not the only instrument that helped expand the musical

opportunities for bass players. The fretless bass, as popularised by Jaco

Pastorius in the mid-1970s, did much to show, to musicians and audiences

alike, that the electric bass guitar was as valid an instrument for making

soloistic and melodic statements as any other instrument. In short, it helped

break down any resistance that designated the electric bass guitar as always

being part of the rhythm section, instead of part of the front line of soloists and

band leaders. Although there had been several bands with bass players as

leaders before Jaco Pastorius, his musicality and popularity did much to

accelerate the evolution of the instrument, its capabilities and attitudes

towards it.

These two voices, the 6-string bass and the fretless bass, helped to establish

a lineage of exploration. Much more than adding a new sonic palette and

extending the range of a traditional four string bass, the 6-string bass opened

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up the minds of musicians. However initially, when luthier Carl Thompson was

approached by Anthony Jackson in the winter of 1974 to discuss building this

new instrument, his ‘reaction went from initial polite puzzlement, to resistance,

to anger. He didn’t see the purpose in the low B; he felt no one would be able

to hear it, as the speakers in cars and television sets were too small.’ (Jisi,

2008, p.26) Yet, 17 years later Thompson would build a 6-string fretless bass

for Les Claypool of Primus.

As Primus were one of the unlikely success stories from the alternative music

scene of the late 80s/early 90s, that bass would be featured regularly on MTV

as videos for the singles Jerry Was A Race Car Driver and Tommy The Cat

received heavy rotation. This bass-centric band were also featured in the

movie Bill And Ted’s Bogus Journey, released in 1991.

Les Claypool’s 6-string fretless Carl Thompson bass, beaming brightly from

the front cover of the Jan/Feb 1993 issue of Bass Player magazine, may have

been responsible, for demonstrating that the bass did not have to conform.

One could step out of the traditional role forged by previous generations of

bass players and play an instrument that did not have four strings or the name

Fender or Rickenbacker on them. That bass, and how it was played, was the

key, in my opinion, that unlocked a world of possibilities for a new generation

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of bass players.

The Primus example was not an outlier. Anthony Jackson’s artistry elevated

the visibility, and viability, of the contrabass guitar through recordings and

performances with such high- profile artists like Chaka Khan, Paul Simon,

Steely Dan, Donald Fagan, Al Di Meola, Quincy Jones and Grover

Washington Jr, amongst others. The development of the contrabass guitar

continued and, although not his intention, was eventually met with critical and

commercial success. After hearing Jackson’s recordings, fellow session

musician Nathan East began playing a 5-string bass, with a low B string.

Relating to Jackson’s playing, he said: ‘Anthony’s performance on Move Me

No Mountain (from Naughty by Chaka Khan) should be studied by all bassists

as an example of a perfect bass part… it represents a standard of creativity

that should be the barometer for all of us who consider ourselves to be studio

bassists.’ (Jisi, 2004, p.85) Other session greats like Neil Stubenhaus, Jimmy

Johnson and Abraham Laboriel were early adopters of these extended range

basses. By mid-1985, Yamaha Musical Instruments were offering the BB5000

5 string bass in its summer catalogue. This is the first documented instance of

a mass produced 5 string bass. (Yamaha, 1985)

Helping fuel this ascension was the development of bass technology and

reproduction as a whole, across professional and consumer level equipment.

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Not only were bass amplifiers being designed that could accommodate the

low range offered by the contrabass guitar and keyboard bass synths, but

also the audio reproduction in home sound systems could now reproduce

these sounds too. ‘Bass could now be heard clearer, deeper and louder than

ever and it soon began to dominate the mix on recordings and on stage.’

(Newell, 2014)

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CHAPTER 4: Tinseltown Rebellion (Oh no, it’s the 80’s again)

This newfound popularity contributed to songs being constructed around the

bass in ways they previously had not. Again, the bass was affecting how

music was being written and performed. Hit songs like New York Minute’

(1989) by Don Henley and Wherever I Lay My Hat (1983) by Paul Young both

featured the fretless bass playing of Pino Palladino. Paul Simon's 1986 album

Graceland featured the melodic bass playing of Bakithi Kumalo heavily,

including a bass solo on the hit (You Can) Call Me Al. The chart topping

Under Pressure (1981) by Queen is anchored throughout by John Deacon's

simple but ear catching hook. While not showcasing soloistic virtuosity, the

electric bass was now being prominently featured in a melodic role.

A high mark in this development, was Billie Jean by Michael Jackson,

released in 1983. The cultural significance of Billie Jean cannot be ignored,

though its legacy is easily taken for granted. Michael Jackson as an artist

brought together black and white audiences in unprecedented numbers.

Thriller, the album from which Billie Jean comes, remains the best-selling

album of all time. (“Guinness World Records,” n.d.)

The video for Billie Jean played a pivotal role in changing the status quo of the

day. MTV rarely showed videos by black artists, and so refused to play the

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video for Billie Jean. Walter Yetnikoff, president of Jackson’s label, CBS

Records, told MTV that he would pull every CBS related video from the station

and inform the public of MTV’s racist practices. MTV capitulated and Billie

Jean was played on heavy rotation. (Lewis, 2007) The effect this had cannot

be underestimated. In an article entitled How Billie Jean Changed The World,

Joe Queenan writes in the Guardian newspaper that ‘Billie Jean transformed

MTV from a mere diversion for young people into a cultural institution that

society at large paid attention to. It

introduced the pasty-faced number-crunchers who ran MTV to the concept

that white viewers would respond enthusiastically to videos featuring a black

performer, something they had not previously believed.’ (Queenan, 2007)

Discussing the cultural significance of Billie Jean, Queenan goes on to say

that for ‘around seven years, Michael Jackson was the most luminous,

powerful, influential star in the music business, and no one else was even

close…All this began with the 1983 hit single Billie Jean. Though it may not

sound like it today, Billie Jean is one of the most revolutionary songs in the

history of popular music.‘ (Queenan, 2007)

Featuring a dominating bass line, it perfectly illustrates how the role of the

bass functions as the bridge between rhythm and harmony. The song begins

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boldly with 29 seconds of that bass line and a drumbeat, unheard of in the

three-and-a-half-minute pop world. Producer Quincy Jones wanted to cut the

introduction, but was talked out of it by Jackson who claimed ‘That’s what

makes me want to dance.’ Retelling this story to a reporter, Jones relates:

“When Michael Jackson tells you that’s what makes me want to dance, well,

the rest of us just have to shut up.” (Glentzer, 2009)

As Rolling Stone magazine noted in its 25th anniversary review of the album

Thriller, “Beat It” was the one designed to get on rock radio - but “Billie Jean”

got there first, since the rock stations played it, along with the rest of the

world. They couldn’t resist that bass. Who could?’ (Sheffield, 2008) It is worth

noting that when Kanye West removed the bassline in his 2008 remix of Billie

Jean, Rolling Stone ‘compared it to "putting (ice hockey legend) Bobby Orr on

the ice without a hockey stick". (Sheffield, 2008)

Stylistically, the feel, and sound itself, can be heard in bands performing on

the radio today. Scheduled for release in January 2019, one need only listen

to the similar opening drum beat and bass line of Líneas En Hojas by Mexican

group Lorelle Meets The Obsolete to hear the enduring influence of Billie

Jean.

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This element of a social and cultural revolution is also mirrored in the story of

legendary bass player Ron Carter. A veteran of over 2000 studio recordings,

including dozens as a band leader, Carter was also a member of Miles Davis’

second great quintet from 1963 to 1968. Having studied cello since the age of

ten, Carter was poised to pursue an orchestral career but quickly found that,

despite his training, finding an orchestral job as an African-American in the 1950s

was difficult. Sensing the futility of the situation, Carter changed both instrument

and environment by switching to the double bass and immersing himself in the

flourishing jazz scene of New York City. With barely a year on this new

instrument, Carter was accepted into the Eastman School of Music on a full

scholarship. Although he quickly ascended to a first call status in the studio and

live jazz world, a position he still retains at the age of 81, Carter has observed the

same discriminatory practices in the classical world throughout his career. Here,

Carter details the situation as he encountered it, after nearly forty years as a

professional musician: ‘I see it more than most people, because I’m constantly

threatening that environment by just standing in the doorway. I’ve done 45-

member sessions and seen only one other black musician on the date. We’re in

New York, man - you mean to tell me they couldn’t find one African-American to

play violin at 9:00 in the morning?’ (Jisi, 1994, p.41)

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CHAPTER 5: Growing up and moving out

That an instrument could be associated with cultural change may seem far-

fetched, this attribution has shown up in the fabric of music from time to time.

Synthesizers, ‘unhooked from the provenance of musical culture and

tradition’, were viewed favourably by those wishing to evoke something new.

Guitars and keyboard instruments, such as pianos and organs, can be viewed

as inherently Western based as they ‘play Western scales and tuning easily,

and anything else with great difficulty.’ (Byrne, 2012, p.103)

As Leon Theremin’s eponymous instrument bore no similarity in how it was

played to any other intstrument, its volume and pitch being controlled by

proximity sensors, David Byrne argues that though ‘Theremin was Russian,

one could say that this instrument, and some other electronic instruments and

samplers that followed, had no national or cultural provenance. They didn’t

emerge out of an ongoing tradition, and they weren’t better suited to play

music of one tradition over another.’ (Byrne, 2012, pp.102-103)

In the 1970s the Chinese government felt that the Mini Moog synthesizer was

the perfect instrument to represent their worldview. Although it was designed

to imitate the sound of other instruments, it was seen as a potentially

liberating tool if used in a different manner. ‘The Chinese, then quite

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doctrinaire in their version of communism, felt that this instrument, untethered

as it was from history and traditional culture, was perfect for their New

Society.’ (Byrne, 2012, p.105)

Just as the myriad new sounds available from a synthesizer may appeal to

those wishing to draw from an untapped musical well, so too is the reverse a

consideration. Eschewing an established sound from the past was a politically

motivated choice made by the Dixie Chicks, an American group. Session

bassist Sebastian Steinberg recalls being asked to favour electric bass over

double bass as the lead singer of the group, Natalie Maines, ‘felt it really

signified the old country world and unpleasant connotations, particularly given

the outspoken stances they're famous for.’ Steinberg felt ‘it was first time (he)

ran into the upright bass representing a political stance.’ (Prasad, 2007)

As the electric bass diverged from the guitar and the double bass to become

its own entity, it severed any link to a national or cultural heritage. This had

happened before, when the invention of the magnetic pickup made the hollow

body of an acoustic guitar redundant. This was the event which cut the

traditional ties of the acoustic guitar to the electric guitar: ‘That unwritten law

of staying true to the sound of a traditional instrument had been violently

broken…the electric guitars were breaking free of history. Their available

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range of sounds wasn’t constrained by any specific cultural trajectory. It

seemed that music would be liberated from the past.’ (Byrne, 2012, p.104)

The electric bass guitar did not come from any one tradition. It was now free

to create its own.

The genres of funk, R&B and disco did much to solidify the permanence of the

bass guitar as these styles all featured strong, repetitive and distinct bass

lines. In rock music a bass guitarist was a pre-requisite. But just as the electric

guitar has little practical relation to its acoustic forbearer, so too does the

electric bass share the same tenuous relationship with the double bass.

Adapting to new styles and sounds, even new instruments, has been a

common thread throughout the bass playing world. ‘When the Fender electric

bass began to supplant the acoustic stand-up bass, a lot of players said,

'That's the end of us,' " remembers former session player Herb Bushler. "And

it was the end of a lot of them, unless they learned to play the Fender

bass."(Walker, 1990) The dominance of synthesizers in the eighties was

reminiscent of the fifties and the growing popularity of the Precision bass. ‘The

mechanisation all happened at once: synths, drum machines, keyboard bass

became the choice; people were understandably grooving on the new

technology’ says Neil Stubenhaus, a first call L.A. Session bassist since the

seventies. ‘The answer’ says Stubenhaus, ‘is to emulate the current music

scene and embrace the technology.’ (Jisi, 2001, p.54)

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CHAPTER 6: Analogue meets digital, has child

The electric bass today is being used in ways completely unforeseen by its

inventor and forbearers, and for different reasons too. Even the double bass

has had a resurgence in popularity, and not only in its traditional settings,

ranging from popular chart-topping band Mumford & Sons to Miles Mosley

playing with rapper Kendrick Lamar, soul singer Lauren Hill and heavy metal

superstar Jonathan Davis of Korn. A combination of embracing an ever-

evolving technology and a plethora of musicians who are forging a new

lineage in bass playing is resulting in a wonderfully diverse and expansive

musical universe.

Of these bands and musicians, this combination is clearly evident in the group

Royal Blood. Singer and bassist Mike Kerr employs several effects pedals to

make his four string bass guitar sound like a standard electric guitar and an

electric bass guitar playing simultaneously. One of these effects pedals is the

Electro Harmonix POG, a digital polyphonic octave generator. The digital

technology is vital in this pedal as its analogue predecessors were unable to

track and duplicate more than a single voice accurately, rendering chords

unusable. A guitar player in previous bands, Kerr switched to bass as a

means to find a new voice. ‘I’d just started playing bass on the first record,

and I didn’t really know what I was doing. Maybe that made for some creative

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songwriting’ says Kerr in an article fittingly titled ‘Royal Blood Continue to

Rewrite the Rock Rulebook - Without a Guitar’. (Bosso, 2017)

It is worth noting that this approach is the reverse of that taken by the White

Stripes in the late 1990s into the early 2000s. On their first big hit, Seven

Nation Army, the bass line is actually a hollow body electric guitar played

through a DigiTech Whammy pedal, set to reproduce the input signal one

octave lower. (Gill, 2018) This simple usage of available technology,

employed with such confidence, can be seen as an extension of the punk rock

ethos of the 1970s, itself a reaction, in part at least musically, to the

overblown grandeur of bands like Led Zeppelin, YES, Emerson, Lake and

Palmer and the spectacle of glam rock groups such as T-Rex, KISS and Alice

Cooper.

Mark Sandman, with the groups Morphine and Treat Her Right, pioneered the

use of a two-string bass, each string tuned a fifth apart. That bass, coupled with

Sandman’s baritone voice and a baritone saxophone as the only other melodic

instrument, created a style of music known as Low-Rock. Other proponents of

this style are Chris Ballew with his three-string ‘basitar’ in the band Presidents of

the U.S.A. and Monique Ortiz, also playing the two string slide bass, in the group

Alien Knife Fight. Using a metal slide traditionally associated with standard six

string guitar playing ‘Ortiz approaches slide bass with a punk rock ethos, creating

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distorted, grinding music that is refreshingly new yet pure American rock and roll.’

(Speal, 2017)

Not surprisingly, given its penchant for exploration, it is within the jazz idiom

that much of this new ground is being ploughed. By studying the legends of

the past, and sometimes with them, bassist Miles Mosley has crafted an

environment that serves his musical vision well, and he’s done this from the

bottom up. ‘I’ve taken an upright bass, put a bunch of effects on it, changed

the groove so it’s hitting a little bit harder and feels a bit more modern, but I

can’t do any of that without understanding the bass players that came before

me, like Ray Brown, Oscar Pettiford or Charles Mingus’ says Mosley. (Waring,

2018)

A motivator in exploring new soundscapes comes from being acutely aware of

the current state of the music industry and ‘music-consuming’, previously

record-buying, public at large. “We live at a time where pop music is always

on – on every YouTube ad, every commercial….but because people have so

much of that readily available, they are excited to build a relationship with a

record and put something on that takes a bit longer to develop” says Mosley.

(Waring, 2018)

Using both upright bass and electric bass, Esperanza Spalding has taken

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relationship building even further by inviting her fans to live stream the entire

recording process for her 2017 album Exposure. No music was written prior to

streaming, and viewers were invited to add comments to the proceedings.

The entire process, a total of 77 hours of non-stop streaming including rest

and food breaks, was broadcast live on Facebook. All 7,777 physical copies

of the record were signed by Spalding and included handwritten notes and

lyrics made during the recording sessions. Weaving new technology with old-

school interaction to engage with audiences at this personal level, artists are

pursuing new ways to build genuine, and hopefully long lasting, fan bases.

Echoing Spalding’s personal connection with her audience, Royal Blood’s

Mike Kerr adds that listening to what your audience wants from a grassroots

level can pay dividends. ‘The album format … has a lot of value. Also, there’s

vinyl—that’s where the format lives. A lot of our fans are into vinyl. They’re

dipping back to that ritual of buying a record, going home and listening to it,

flipping it over. It’s not as big as streaming, but it’s there. So as long as we

have that, we’ll make albums, even if less people appreciate them. (Bosso,

2017) 

Even in the modern chart-topping pop world, Ted Dwane, bassist for Mumford

& Sons, has found a way to make the sound of the double bass stay relevant

by utilising modern technology. The most common method of amplifying a

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double bass is by using a piezo pickup, which sense the instruments

vibrations. However, the very nature of a double bass being a large

resonating chamber, when amplified, facilitates a feedback loop which

renders them unusable at high volumes. This problem of double bass

feedback has been solved, to a large degree, by using the technology that

spurred the development of its one-time successor, the electric bass:

magnetic pickups.

Although this technology is not new, magnetic pickups have had little

popularity with double bass players as their sonic characteristics remove too

much of acoustic sound from the double bass. Ted Dwane has found a mix of

old and new as the recipe for success in amplifying his double bass to

stadium level volume while still retaining a large semblance of the original

acoustic sound. ‘Early on, we started experimenting with things like mounting

a P-style [sic: Precision bass style] pickup to the fingerboard with gaffer tape.

Now I have a Zadow magnetic humbucker that I blend with a [sic:piezo

design] David Gage Realist SoundClip. That way, I get a lot of low-end thump

and fullness from the humbucker, and blend as much of the Realist as we can

for that woody sound. The piezos supply the percussive side, and the

magnetic pickup offers unlimited volume.’ (Fox, 2013)

Pushing the technology side further is Grammy Award-winning bassist

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Stephen ‘Thundercat’ Bruner. Besides being one of the most unique bass

players in music today, Thundercat is also one of music’s most original and

creative artists. ‘For anyone interested in the constantly evolving nexus

between jazz, electronica and hip hop, Thundercat's swiftly becoming as

ubiquitous as woolly hats and Sun Ra shout outs.’ (McQuaid, 2015)

In a telling step that reflects how popular Thundercat is, and also

acknowledging his method of creating music on his bass, instrument

manufacturer Ibanez has released a Thundercat signature bass. Featuring

standard magnetic pickups, the 6-string bass also features a piezo system as

well as a MIDI pickup. Rather than an add on accessory, the MIDI pickup,

which Bruner uses to replicate a wide variety of instrument sounds from

keyboard synths to percussion to orchestral strings, the MIDI pickup is

built directly into the instrument and has its own dedicated output. The output

options are extensive, including separate volume controls for the separate

magnetic, piezo and MIDI pickups, along with MIDI up/down switches and a

mid/dark EQ selector switch.

Julie Slick is another bassist using MIDI technology to embrace sounds not

traditionally associated with bass playing, creating soundscapes inspired by

Robert Fripp and Brian Eno. Slick uses her MIDI equipped Precision-style bass

with a Roland VB-99 signal processor, which converts bass to MIDI and streams

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audio via USB audio sources. Bubby Lewis, producer and bassist for Snoop

Dogg and Lupe Fiasco uses the VB-99 because ‘the possibilities of what you can

do with this is endless, you can score an entire movie with this tiny little box right

here’. (Rolandmedia, 2012, 00:00:42) Gary Willis, of TribalTech and Tryphasia,

views the merging of a traditional instrument with modern technology like the VB-

99 as all part of the same user interface, recommending that ‘students and young

players can look at the instrument and the technology as a mouldable interface

for their imagination.’ (Rolandmedia, 2012, 00:17:30)

All of this seems very ‘high-brow’ and ‘muso’ – terms which rarely entice mass

commercial appeal, yet Thundercat has frequently made high profile TV

appearances, most notably with repeat appearances on The Tonight Show

Starring Jimmy Fallon. Appearances such as these, along with his Grammy

Award, are sure signs that progressive instruments such as the 6-string bass

have been accepted by mainstream musical audiences and practitioners.

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CONCLUSION: Never backward, always forward

This research project initially sprung from the idea to investigate if there was

any substantiating evidence to support my claim that there was more to the

jokes about bass players being failed guitarists, and if there was some

genuine malicious intent in these sentiments. From the formal and informal

interviews and conversations with several bass players, of various standing in

the international music community, I arrived at the conclusion that there was

no genuine malicious intent but rather good-natured camaraderie. However,

while I believe that the bass guitar does enjoy a mutual respect shared

amongst other instrumentalists, this path of inquiry took me somewhere

unexpected. I began to ponder just why did I feel that the bass guitar, and its

player, can sometimes feel like an outsider. Could the reason lie in that, by

the very nature of its hybrid origins, it serves both the rhythm and the harmony

simultaneously and therefore can also seem to belong to neither camp

successfully?

In considering whether or not individual personalities play a role in

determining the instruments we play, take this comparative study of orchestral

instruments: ‘To outsiders, ‘the brass’ may be lumped all together but each

instrument bestows upon those who seek to master it something of its own

character. The pyrotechnics, for instance, are mostly in the trumpet…the

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trombone is the brass’s philosopher…Others may make free with jokes about

Tubby the Tuba, but a tuba player knows how important is his contribution to

his colleagues.’ (Blandford, 1985, p.20) In understanding ones role within any

ensemble being determined by the instrument played, it is worth considering

the solitude of the piano. ‘It is indeed the stranger in the family…it does not

have, naturally, that sustained, singing tone to which musicians most readily

respond. The piano is perforce set apart from an orchestra by size,

appearance, position, sound and attack. To string players a violinist is one of

‘us’, his success is ‘ours’. A pianist is an outsider, no kith and kin of his here.’

(Blandford, 1985, p.106)

This intangible relationship that a musician may have with his or her

instrument could be viewed of as a chicken and egg scenario. Did we choose

the bass guitar or does it choose us? In describing his role in the group Spinal

Tap, bassist Derek Smalls offers this comical thought on where he fits

between the two bandleaders, both of whom, co-incidentally and yet

importantly, are guitarists. "David and Nigel are like poets, you know, like

Shelley or Byron, or people like that. The two totally distinct types of

visionaries, it’s like fire and ice, and I feel my role in the band is to be kind of

the middle of that, kind of like lukewarm water." (This Is Spinal Tap, 1984)

Although this insight is fictional, written as part of a ‘mockumentary’, I believe

this exchange speaks volumes as to the mind-set involved in why we play the

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particular instruments that we do. The joke simply would not worked if Smalls

were not a bass player, and if he was not talking about two guitarists.

An instrument is just that, an instrument. Yet it can draw towards it a certain

kind of personality, one that finds a home in this new place. ‘According to

orchestra lore, cellists and double basses are the most warm-hearted of

sections. Is it something to do with years spent hugging their instruments? Or

do the big deep tones at the bottom attract more giving personalities?’

(Blandford, 1985, p.91) This new place, this home, in creative music making,

and sometimes culture changing, via an extended range bass or effects laden

double bass, is an exciting part of the growing legacy of being a bass player.

Far from being only a member of the rhythm section, bass players are now

involved in every aspect of the music business, from performing the music,

writing the music, arranging it, booking shows, tour managing, liaising with

record labels and the media to being the media itself. All of these facets have

become more important than ever for the individual musician to understand.

As Miles Mosley states regarding his own career, in which he balances being

a sideman with being a solo artist, and writing scores for TV and film, being “a

musician, especially in this day and age, you really are managing a portfolio of

sorts and so diversification becomes the key.” (Heath, 2017)

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More than being any one thing, the bass is about everything. The bass, be it

electric or acoustic, can be the harmony and the rhythm simultaneously; it can

provide a main melody or a supportive counterpoint all at a whim. With the

technology available today that allows the electric bass of Julie Slick or

Thundercat to sound like any instrument possible and also allows the upright

bass to feature as a bona fide solo instrument in a rock band with Miles

Mosley, the bass is like a musical Schrödinger‘s Cat, existing in several

metaphysical states at once.

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INTERVIEWS:

The following bass players were asked the same two questions.

1) During your career what do you feel have been the most noticeable

innovations, with regards to equipment, that you feel have helped you or worked

against you and how (ie: octave pedals, travel double basses, samplers, synth

bass, bass on click-track, etc),

2) In thinking of old jokes such as ’How many bass players does it take to change

a lightbulb? One, but the guitar player has to show him how to do it first’ or 'None,

the keyboard player does it with his left hand', and assuming that these jokes

come from a 'where there's smoke, there's fire' line of thought, have you ever

encountered an instance of a negative attitude towards you because of the

instrument you played, and, if so, how?

Jerry Scheff – bassist for Elvis Presley, Bob Dylan, The Doors, Neil Diamond

#1      Of course electric basses have become more refined over the years. I

have always used Tube amps and that hasn’t changed. I used Fender Jazz and

P basses although Lakland took me on and I had a bunch of their basses

including my signature basses. 

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I have never collected instruments. I have given many away, usually to kids who

needed them. I haven’t had to supply my own amps for years but I always asked

for Ampeg b15s in the studio and SVT Ampegs with 8x10s.   With Presley I

started with a Sun Tube Amp, changed to a couple of Music Mans. I used the

Sun Tube amp on the Doors LA woman album.

Now I have the newest Fender Jazz elite, and an old Lakland as my go to

basses, along with an old Hofner Beatle bass.  I got a Mark Bass Standard 104

HF with 4 tens, and a Little Mark Tube 800 head for gigging around within driving

distance here in Scandinavia. I have been to Iceland, the UK and Germany for

concerts and that’s what I ask for.

So, I guess the biggest change for me is the amps. Light weight speakers and an

800 watt Tube head that fits in my carry on. A little clean for me so I like to use a

Bass Muff just barely on. 

#2.  Musicians always like to rag on one another.  There were gun laws in

California and posters saying, “Use a gun - go to jail.” Bumper stickers soon

showed up with, “Use an accordion - go to Jail. Then Banjo jokes. 

Other that those kind of jokes I can’t remember reverse reactions about being a

bass player except bass was always thought of as the instrument anybody could

play.

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On the other hand, I never liked playing with a pick and I always stuck to my

guns about that. When I got to LA Carol Kaye and Joe Osborn were the two

busiest session players. I could have made a lot more money if I had looked at

music as a business, so my style of playing was mine and I wasn’t very flexible

about it. The only song I ever used a pick on was Neil Diamonds Song Sung

Blue. Producer Tom Catalano said it really needed the pick sound, was nice

about it and I agreed. I took flack from people who had preconceived ideas about

what a bass should or shouldn’t do.  All the people and producers I worked with

liked what I did. Elvis never once told me what or what not to play.

Nick Scott – bassist for Van Morrison, Mary Black, Gilbert O’Sullivan

Okeydoke: regarding electric bass: 1) I reckon the development directly in the

instrument from the Precision onwards regarding, a) number of strings, b)

fretless, c) increased scale-length, d) pre-amps have all opened up subsequent

waves of artists to investigate new vistas in the instrument's capabilities directly,

alongside recording technology developments, led by artists like James

Jamerson (who came from upright background in jazz) through Larry Graham 

(who brought guitaristic techniques to the instrument), Stanley Clarke with his

solid jazz footing and of course Jaco with his innovative adaption of a stock

Fender Jazz into a hybrid beast somewhere in between upright and electric for

expressiveness. 

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The use of pedals was I think an attempt to bring the signal control of the studio

(compression, modulation, distortion etc) to the stage; also the development of

more portable equipment from fridge-sized cabs to isobaric cubes and

miniaturised amps, the former to allow the basic to open up its sonic space and

the latter to get the message out there..! With the changing mood of the business

and tbe advent of synthesis bassists have had to become more sonically

adventurous, including bringing those instruments into their arsenal, as

sometimes that's the correct choice to use. 2) I've only ever encountered one

example and that was from an unnamed sax-player who advised he still

practiced 3 hours every day as he didn't want to end up playing the

bass...deadbeat with no idea - or interest- what a bassplayer does nor cares I

suspect.

Damian Erskine – bassist for Peter Erskine, Jaco Pastorius Big Band, Gino

Vannelli

1) During your career what do you feel have been the most

noticeable innovations, with regards to equipment, that you

feel have helped you or worked against you and how (ie: octave

pedals, travel double basses, samplers, synth bass, bass on

click-track, etc),

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There have been so many innovations and areas of growth in

all aspects of the life of a working musician. The first thing that

comes to mind is the reduction in weight of the gear while also

increasing the power and headroom of the amps. I use Aguilar

amps and cabinets and my 410 cab weighs what my old 110

cab used to weigh. My 500 watt power amp weighs 4 lbs and

fits in a back-pack. The ease of the schlep has greatly reduced

the strain on my back with absolutely no compromise in tone.

Additionally, for touring bands, using digital boards and being

able to travel with your settings on a USB stick is phenomenal.

Just plug it in and load the exact settings from your last show.

Incredible. Basses are easier to play, amps are easier to carry

and you can backline an entire stages worth of gear and recall

settings… It’s a great time to be a traveling musician!

2) In thinking of old jokes such as ’How many bass players does

it take to change a lightbulb? One, but the guitar player has to

show him how to do it first’ or 'None, the keyboard player does

it with his left hand', and assuming that these jokes come from

a 'where there's smoke, there's fire' line of thought, have you

ever encountered an instance of a negative attitude towards

you because of the instrument you played, and, if so, how?

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Honestly, no. Those kinds of jokes are basically only told or

understood by musicians and are just a part of the way we jab

at each other in a loving way. Even the oldest musicians seem

to still be kids at heart, in my experience, and traveling

together almost requires a certain of levity and shenanigans.

Musicians tend to tease each other incessantly. For example,

“yeah.. I like what you were trying to do there”, or “oh man, I

was at this great hang the other night. You know who was

asking about you?…. nobody”. We get brutal but it’s always in

love and laughter. I don’t know what it is. Musicians love

f****** with each other!

Conrad St. Clair – bassist for The Furious Bongos, Kicksville

1) During your career what do you feel have been the most noticeable

innovations, with regards to equipment, that you feel have helped you or worked

against you and how (ie: octave pedals, travel double basses, samplers, synth

bass, bass on click-track, etc),

A lot has changed in my 30+ years as a bassist, but no question, the number one

innovation that has affected every aspect of my career has been the incredibly

fast evolution of computers. Computers fundamentally changed the recording

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process; computer control revolutionized the live event industry; long-distance

musical communication/collaboration has been facilitated in an extraordinary way

by the internet; using computer-based learning tools to practice and develop new

skills; and so on. To really go into all of it would require a 40-page essay - not

going there, but I'm sure there are folks who have, at length, with fancy data

tables and whatnots.

 2) In thinking of old jokes such as ’How many bass players does it take to

change a lightbulb? One, but the guitar player has to show him how to do it first’

or 'None, the keyboard player does it with his left hand', and assuming that these

jokes come from a 'where there's smoke, there's fire' line of thought, have you

ever encountered an instance of a negative attitude towards you because of the

instrument you played, and, if so, how?

Q: What are the three most useless things in the world?

A: The Pope's balls, and a bass solo.

Honestly, I don't recall another musician having a negative view of me because I

play bass. Maybe a wee bit of disdain from the pure jazz bassists because I don't

play upright, but even then, it's only when talking about playing a very specific

kind of music.

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On the other hand, I have encountered negative attitudes while working as a

sound engineer if I attempt to talk to the musicians as another musician. The

assumption, more often than not, is that if I was actually good, I wouldn't be

working as a sound monkey. Or, because I have long hair and look like a rock

dude, the assumption is that I play in a Guns & Roses cover band, with my bass

slung down to my knees.

It's actually a thing I have to dance around carefully. Working on the production

side often allows me access to the people I want to approach about possible

musical gigs, but if I handle it wrong and play into the stereotype, that musical

connection won't happen. I'll be a sound monkey in their minds from then on out

(even if they like the job I do), and won't be taken seriously as a musician. 

To be fair, I have had the same thing happen in reverse while working as a

bassist. Occasionally, if I try to talk shop with the engineers or production folks,

I'll get the "oh great, another muso who thinks he's an engineer" attitude. 

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