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Seems related to the condensed electron clusters discussed in a few experiments. I'm guessing if
real it is absorbing ambient thermal energy from the immediate environment, and induces
superconducting in the medium it travels through, thus why it is cold but I have little knowledge of
this.

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Positive and negative rotation currents symmetrically cancel and also the fields (when using the
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A bit out of the thread subject but it would be interesting to now which kind of reasoning has lead to
higher dimensional thinking. I would assume that adding torsion in Einstein's space-time world lead
to Evans' ECE originally maybe just by curiosity - what happens if we add torsion there instead of
only curvature? Now there is probably something similar behind SO(4)-thinking, e.g. is it easier to
explain some real-world phenomena adding dimensions or is there some kind of mathematical proof
that directly leads to higher dimensions ?

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From computation theory we know that there is no time or no continuous time arrow. In a distributed
system (all reality is such) there exist only partial ordered events. Thus physics based on time is just
approximative in respect to all quantities that integrate over time like energy. Obviously we live in
4D as GER shows but as already Einstein knew: GER is correct local only and thus the concept of
time only works in close proximity. Mills 4D approach already works better than GER for
cosmological calculations as it restricts GER to 2D what is enough to reproduce the claimed solved
mysteries like the Mercury perihelion.
The last step is to understand that there are no point particles and we need a higher order topology
to reproduce the correct charge surface.

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From computation theory we know that there is no time or no continuous time arrow. In a
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works better than GER for cosmological calculations as it restricts GER to 2D what is enough
to reproduce the claimed solved mysteries like the Mercury perihelion.
The last step is to understand that there are no point particles and we need a higher order
topology to reproduce the correct charge surface.

Agreed.
No point charges, that means dimensions in the nucleus of the atom. Thus we need the structure of
the nucleus in order to understand local differences.

For a proposal for the structure of the nucleus I presented the Structured Atom Model on several
occasions, hoping to inspire others to take a good look at it and in that process see the huge
advantage such a model offers for understanding what we are dealing with here.

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Hi Edo. Good to see you posting here. You and any of your colleagues in the Nuclear Structure
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Mar 24th 2020 #9

@Edo Very thought provoking theory! I have a major curiousity about some particular points.
Firstly how does this match up with compounding experimental results, regardless of experimenter's
theories, with exothermic products and input/output energies lower than expected for the particular
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may not be the actual novel source of excess energy. Again the key is in measuring of mass/energy
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changes and input/output power numbers per interaction in all positive hydrogen/metal/catalyst
reactor systems before formulating a theory. I like that it appears like more than one element
nucleus is inside a single atom and the proton/electron ultimately being the two fundamental
particles. Molecules at lower electron orbits, involving H isotopes with themselves and compatible
metals in precise conditions, would give similar if not more accurate experiment reflecting results.
Thanks for sharing.

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