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Curse of Shukra
Experiences January 26th, 2008

These three persons suffered emotional/love problems, due to various reasons. I want to
discuss these chart and show few techniques how to read that kind of events in native’s
Kundali Chakra.

Example 1
Date: June 19, 1981
Time: 0:45:00
Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)
Place: 19 E 02′ 00″, 49 N 49′ 00″

In this chart we see that Shani is aspecting Shukra, while Shukra is yuti Surya. These two
malefics
are causing Shukra-saapa which is curse. As Surya is DK and 12 from it sits Upapada lord, it
means
that partners can reject Him when it comes to serious relationship. From Lagna-Moola-Dasa
we see
Shukra-Rahu period. He was cheated in the relationship. Rahu in trikona makes at least one
event
when one is cheated, as dispositor sits with A7 it was related to love. Per standrart
Vimshottari it was
Moon-Venus period. Moon will give effect of Rahu, while Venus will give effect of Mangal
(due to amsa parivartana).
Mangal as malefic lording 12L from Chandra and engaged in papakartari on Venus and 7L will
cause
this sad event. As stated before Mangal sits in 12 from DK-Sun. It was related to 3UL, Rahu sits
in 2 from it and lord is with A7. Moon is also with Rahu
in D9.

Example 2
Date: January 14, 1986
Time: 14:20:00
Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)
Place: 23 E 10′ 10″, 53 N 08′ 10″

In this chart we have Shukra in 12 from Sun-Dk. Shukra is Atmkaraka which gives
many problems in love life as its 5L in seventh bhava. This will cause some enmity
as Ma-Ke aspecting 2H from UL are starting grahamalika yoga. Only when native started
studying this issue was calmed, this is due to Chandra occupying dharmabhava.

Jupiter is cursed here. 7L is in even footed sign, so we should see from lord to karaka,
its twelfth which show loss of relationship or in relationship. Moon in ninth shows that
Vimshottari will work excellent for this native. It was in shani-Budha. Shani is in Thulaamsa
which is fifth in rasi, while Budha will give AK effect - lessons in relationship which will
affect general life of native (Lagnesh) and Her reputation (10 from AL). Venus is in 11 from
Moon
which gives person which will excel in any field, and thats true that she is very skilled, altough

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many obstacles came in form of disease (8 from AL+Badhakesh in eigth starting GMY) and
relationship problems.

Example 3:
Date: July 15, 1982
Time: 14:15:00
Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)
Place: 18 E 19′ 10″, 50 N 31′ 10″

Here again Shukra is afflicted/cursed. Ma+Sa in twelfth also doesnt bode well for peaceful
relationship.

For Mangal, Shani is the remedy (he will not help as its engaged in the same yoga), for the
Shani Moon sits in seventh, so she will be very forgiving and that is one way to cure the
problem. Rahu in ninth will take away
the luck of native especially when Surya as badhakesh-AK and in rasi sandhi is also involved in
this yoga. Sun sits in ninth from Lagna which means that the middle part of life will be the
best. In Naisargika Bhava dasa it was eight bhava period, and lord is Shukra nicely explaining
the event. As Venus+Rahu is special yoga for being cheated in relationship,
especially when Rahu is in trikona and sits in forth bhava in D9 (lording maraka to 2H). This
was in period of Moon-Rahu that she was betrayed. This will not affect all relationship as 7L is
not involved. Her first partner was astrologer, as Sun sits in 7 in D9, while Upapada is with
ketu in dhanus rasi.
the second partner was musician (Su in 6, Ve in 10 from 2H; Mo sits in 10 from 2UL, and Venus
lords and aspects
11 from 2UL - performance). As 2L from 2UL is with Ve+Ra yoga she was cheated in the second
relationship.
This was very painful as this yoga yuti AK she will never forget it (Lagnesh involved). As this
yoga
is occupying ninth bhava it comes from past life and that will disturb her raja yoga as Shani is
with Mangal in twelfth bhava (shani is 4 from buddha in varachakra). Going to temple/church
is the remedy.

From Narayana Dasa perspective it was Dhanus Rasi and Ve+Ra are in badhak from it, while
Rahu is Bahya rasi lord. Ketu yuti A7 shows many mistakes commited in private life. But this
aspect will be very important, as the seventh bhava rasi in d1 is fifth bhava rasi in D9.

Om Tat Sat

1. priya Says:
January 27th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Dear Rafal-ji, Namaskar.
I come to understand that amsa parivarthana is parivartana in the navämça which
causes a complete exchange in the nature of events in the persons life. From your
“Example 1″ can i deduce that both the Mahadasa and the Antara of the planets in
exchange will confer the results of the exchange. Is it merely as if the planets were in
their own houses or is there any speciality in these exchanges?
If Jupiter and Venus had amsa parivarthana & were placed in the 5th from Gemini
lagna which happens to be in a cursed bhava(Libra) in Rasi chart what would that
indicate??
As per your “example 2″ can i conclude that planets with the AK will give the results of
AK? What about planets in parivarthan with AK…will it give effects of both AK and
planet with it??
In ” example 3″ why does sun being in the 9th mean happiness in the middle part of
life?? “Rahu in ninth will take away the luck of native” Since Rahu in the 9th is
remedied by Jupiter does one strengthen Venus instead if Jupiter and Venus were
together in D1 and in parivarthana in D9.

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Many,many thanks,
Priya

2. Rafal Gendarz Says:

January 27th, 2008 at 5:14 pm

hare rama krsna

Dear Priya, Namaskar
1. Navamsa Parivartana especially work for antardasa, as Navamsa has a lot to do
with association, the same is with AD-Level (Moon-people approaching You).
Parivartana doesnt change avastha of planet. This is used especially for timing
purposes. Parivartana in D1 shows transformation or reversal of fortune.
2. Regarding yuti AK Dasa. That was inspired by Sanjay Rath’s mail, where He use
this exchange of results in the case of yuti (conjunction). Parivartana in D1 doesnt
change the timing, this difference was nicely described in Visti Larsen’s lecture
about Parivartana in Serbija 2004.
3. Regarding which part will be the best and worst. This is based on Kemadruma
lecture delivered by Sanjayji.
4. For Rahu in ninth, always Guru should be seen for luck, Surya for father.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz

3. karthik Says:
January 30th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Dear Rafalji,

Excellent analysis. Have few doubts regarding the curse.

A.) this is regarding the calculation of upapada after being invovled in a relationship
that did not culminate in a marriage. my doubt is whether the upapada should be
changed after such an incident took place or should theupapada change be considered
only in case of divorces.

B) during which part of mooladasa would the curse manifest. let us for example take
case in which venus is aspected by shani and mars. the moola dasa shows all the 3 dasa
periods pertaining to the planets mentioned are occuring in some time period. would
the native be under curse during all the 3 dasas. or would it manifest during the most
malefic of the two or during the period of 8th house lord if it happens to be either of
the three.

Can you kindly reply .

Thank you
warm regards

4. Rafal Gendarz Says:

January 30th, 2008 at 9:40 pm

hare rama krsna

Dear Karthik, Namaskar
Your question in its essence is related to predicament what forms relationship per
Jyotisha. You can judge it by Yourself examining abilities, siblings and
circumstances whilst manifesting the relationship. Another crucial technique is
drawing a prashna chart to reveal current Upapada. Answering Your querry: You
dont need formal divorce to jump into next Upapada.

2. The native will suffer during dasas related to curse. Thats the basis. Now by
looking carefully at the yoga in which planet is involved you can decipher exact
event which creates hurdles. In Your example Shani will give most terrible period,
followed by Rahu and Shukra.

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Hint: Look for Remedy-Graha in spectrum of curse. Dasa of this planet will give
relief and will solve one from trap of saapa.

Regards
Rafal Gendarz

5. karthik Says:
January 31st, 2008 at 6:41 am
Dear Rafalji,
Namaskar.

Thank you for ur wonderful reply.

Can i know the basis of using rahu in this context rather than mars. Does this mean
that Mars even tough being an aggressive planet wont affect a relationship.

can you patiently answer this query . it might sound very basic to you but i would like
to know the logic behind rahu causing the suffering even tough it is not involved.

Warm regards
Karthik

6. Rafal Gendarz Says:

February 2nd, 2008 at 6:47 pm

hare rama krsna

Dear Karthik, Namaskar
My mistake. In Your example there were Shani and Mars aspecting Shukra.
Generally the order of beneficiency for curses is: Guru, Shukra, Chandra, Budha,
Surya, Ketu, Mangal, Rahu, Shani.

First decide which grahas of this list are involved in curse. They will give suffering
related to lordship and yoga. Use Moola Dasa for this purpose.

So Shani will give the worst experience, following Mangal and Shukra. BUT look
also at yogas which involves cursed planets, they can change the order.

When trying to mitigate the bad karma, choose the planet cursed and perscribe
proper remedy. The One whom we approach will be related to i) dispositor of
cursed graha (use Guru-Rupa) ii) bhava karaka (use pratyadi devata) or iii) Bhava-
Deity.

Regards,
Rafal Gendarz

7. shashank Says:
February 19th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
!!JAI SAIRAM!!
Respected vistiji,
Shan is here, hope u remember the grahmalika yoga in my chart as u stated & gave a
remedy on yahoo group, as u know there is a curse of spouce in chart, but does it
really happening as budh mahadash shani antardasha going on, if u pls comment on
good things in chart, as there seems to be two mahapurusha yogas, two lakshni yogas,
kuber tulya rajyoga,dhan yoga,moon-mars yoga,vesi & anapha yoga,are happening,
but the actual conditions are different, & also co-lord of uppada lagna is in 12th from
rashilagna & 5th from itself, if u don’t mind iam giving birth details of my wife, so that
ucould comment on curse relation in my chart, & overall properity of marriage,
dob:-12/10/1987 tob:-11:15 am, nanded, India 77E21, 19N11, my details:-
dob:-2/11/1978 tob:-17:40 latur India 76E34, 18N24,waiting for ur reply,,,,,,

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