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ICON MAGAZINE #49 - Quarterly publication of The Official

Madonna Fan Club - Web: www.madonna.com - Honorary


Madonna - Edited by Johann Delebarre - Assistant Editor
David Marion - Additional contributions by Annie Lennox,
Philippe van den Bossche, Jonas & Francois - Art direction,
layout & design Johann Delebarre & David Marion - Photo
Credits Steven Klein, David Marion, Guy Oseary, Shavawn Gor-
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nails» Poulain - The usual suspects Madonna, Guy Oseary, Liz
Rosenberg, Sara Zambreno, Denise Lambertson, Stephanie
Patafio, Christophe Caron, Magali Devernay, Bibi & Krys, Théo,
Lola and all Madonna fans around the world... Copyright ©
2008 Boy Toy, Inc. All rights reserved. Reproduction without
written permission is prohibited.
Dear Friends,

There has been so much going on in the Madonna world lately that I don’t 04 EXPRESS YOURSELF
even know where to start! In less than 3 months, our queen released a single,
a video, a full length album, and promoted all of it through 3 exclusive live 08 MY SUGAR IS RAW
shows. Earlier in the year, she was inducted into the Rock N’ Roll Hall Of
Fame, and just recently premiered her ‘I Am Because We Are’ documentary 16 SPEAK MY SISTER SPEAK
in New York and Cannes. As if all of that was not enough, Madonna also
filmed the video for Hard Candy’s second single and announced a world 22 4 MINUTES
tour! If you know of another artist doing so much in such a short period,
26 JONAS & FRANCOIS
please give me a call now!
32 MAKING A DIFFERENCE
While we’re all in love with all of Madonna’s recent achievements, there’s no
way we would be able to cover them all within just one issue of Icon... And 36 ROCK N’ ROLL HALL OF FAME
that is why we’ve decided to make this issue a double one, with the second
part to be released within the next few weeks.

On a more web-based note, I hope that you like the brand new website
and community features that are now part of your membership. Also, don’t
forget that you can now get your printed copy of the magazine sent to you
by using our new «print-on-demand» option!

Enjoy this new Madonna year!!


xo
Johann
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Hi Madonna, one day I will have the honour of making your us with new ideas, new styles, new projects.
It was 24 years ago when I was 15 that I first acquaintance in person I will never forget that Your energy is amazing and infinite. Thank you
discovered your music. Ever since then, you have moment. I always share with everyone how you so much for everything you do. Maybe one day
been there in my life. Your music always seems continue to educate and empower me in hopes I will get the chance to express my gratitude in
to reflect my own life. I hope it will do so for that they will also find the encouragement you person, we never know. Until then...just know
many years to come. Keep on doing what you’re continuously give to everyone. I love you! that there are people out there who really
doing! John, USA appreciate your courage and honesty. All the
Love you. best for you and your family, may you be blessed
Patricia, UK Hey Mrs. Ritchie! with good health and happiness.
That’s what I shouted at the Filth & Wisdom red Love,
I think you are so awesome and I wanted to let carpet in Berlin and cought your attention. The Marian, Germany
you know Drowned World is my favourite song in brief moment that you looked at me brought
the whole world. It meant so much to me when the biggest smile to my face and it still lasts on. It looks like it’s going to be another busy
you sang it so beautifully during Confessions. Thanks for my very own Madonna moment. Madonna-filled year! I know you’re going to
Your music is in my soul. It’s everywhere I go. Sometimes even the shortest moments in life are be incredibly busy so here is just a quick note
I love getting down and into the groove with the most special. You made Berlin sparkle a little expressing my love and gratitude to your never
Bedtime Stories. You’ve stolen my heart and I brighter that night! ending reign as Queen of Pop. The album that
want to thank you for it. Love changed my life was Ray of Light – as soon as
Love, Dirk, Germany you started singing with euphoria on the track
Anthony, USA Ray Of light, I was hooked. Line and sinker.
You’re too fabulous Madonna. Can’t wait to see Seeing you live (twice) has been the highlight
Dearest Madge, both of the movies coming out (IABWA and of my summer’s and I hope that I get to live that
For as long as I can remember, your music has FAW). But I want you to act again. Swept Away incredible feeling as you make your entrance
(literally) played a part in my life. My close was brilliant. I had a very intense emotional on stage. It’s been a rough couple of years what
relationship with my older sister (a fellow response to the ending and I thought the with beating Cancer and learning to live with a
Madonna-maniac who I have idolized from movie had something to say that most movies disability. But my determination to succeed at
birth) has had me hooked on you for as long as don’t. But whatever you are up to, I am always Uni and get my degree is forever strong because
I can remember. Your music has both inspired interested in seeing what that might be. You of your influence. I’ll be seeing you on tour
me and brought me up from some of the worst keep me entertained while inspiring me in my (crosses fingers!)
times in my life. For all of my life, you have own life. Maybe one day, we will work together Claire, UK
been a fixture in the background of my life. Your if you deem me worthy (after I have proven
music has been the soundtrack of my life, eerily myself, I’m sure. LOL). Hi Madonna!
mirroring my real-life happenings. For your William, USA I think you’re the greatest monarch the world has
music, your signature attitude and spunk, your ever known! I’m not a fan from the beginning,
skill and of course your live performances, I could Dear Madonna, since Hung Up, but I’m only fourteen. You started
never thank you enough! It’s been almost 13 years that I got interested in while I didn’t exist yet. After buying Hung up and
Brian, USA your music. Amazing how time flies by. Over the Confessions On A Dance Floor I started to collect
years I have enjoyed «getting to know you» - and all of your CDs, and after that I started collecting
Hey M, I do not mean only the music. It’s the things your CD-singles. I surprised myself by liking it all!
Just wanted to say THANK YOU for giving me you stand for and the person you are. You have At first I didn’t really like the R&B thing, but after
inspiration and encouragement, and for showing inspired me in many ways and you keep showing Timbaland confirmed he collaborated with you
me how to use the tools that life gives us to me that dreams do come true. Beside all that I listened to some of his songs, and I really liked
make this the best life we can all possibly live! you keep giving me wonderful music to enjoy. ‘The Way I Are’.
Life has not been kind to me, yet with you in it I hope to see you on stage any time soon again I’m busy now learning ‘Hollywood’ and I can
and everything you share with all of us I have because I missed you last time - unfortunately already play songs like ‘X-Static Process’ and
found strength, unconditional love, and the you did not make it to Australia and that’s where ‘Don’t Tell Me’.
ability to succeed. Having only a single moment I was at that time. It’s wonderful to see how life As the Vulcans from Star Trek say: live long and
to catch your eye in Philly at ‘Confessions’ has turned into a certain direction for you that prosper!
during ‘Lucky Star’, your energy surged so seems to make you happy and settled. Marriage Thomas, The Netherlands
strongly throughout me everyone around me and children suit you very well. But you never
knew we made that connection and they felt sit back, there are always new challenges. And
it too! Although I will never give up hope that that’s what makes you so special - you surprise

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Thank you Madonna, your passion and drive my life as you have. Whenever I start to doubt Madonna, is there something I can do for you?
motivates me to work as hard as possible to myself, my dreams or my place in this world, I Just tell me. I will always support you and send
achieve the best results out of everything i do in think of people like you and remind myself that you happy thoughts. I hope that your dreams
life. I have been a fan since 1984 and it just gets you got to where you are today by doing all of will come true in the future and that you and
better and better all the time, I have enjoyed the those things I thought I was never capable of your beautiful family will have a happy life filled
thrived on every moment of your dazzling career. doing. I also have to remind myself that you are with lots of love.
Thank you Madonna, you are a true inspiration a human being just like the rest of us, and that Melinda, Sweeden
to us all. the difference between you and me is you never
Gaynor, UK stopped believing in your dreams. I love you Hello Madonna,
Madonna!!! I have been a long time fan and never fail to
Dearest Madonna, Gina, Canada enjoy your creative energy and spirit. You are
I’ve loved you since I was 10 years old. I’ve never so uplifting and have been a beneficial part of
really been a person to write celebrities, but Madonna, Madonna, Madonna.... Just hearing who I have become today. Thank you for all you
you’ve made such an «impact» on me like no your name makes me feel better, I’d like to do and for your impeccable artistic vision and
other artist ever has. I truly believe that you had express how I feel when I sing your songs, when presence.
a big influence on me growing up. You helped I hear you on the radio, when I see you on TV, Love,
to make me a strong and confident woman. when I play your music... you make me feel very Norman, USA
But....You also taught me how to be sexy. I too good and I’d like to thank you for it cause you’re
had Catholic Parents (Irish). So there were no very special for me and all the people around I just wanted to say that I’ve been a fan for
«Sexiness» teachings. LOL On your first album, me, you are part of my life. My children sing your 22 years and counting. Ever since I saw that
l listened to every song. Not only the hits like songs and know perfectly who you are and they gorgeous cover of True Blue, I’ve been hooked!
«Lucky Star» and «Borderline». I also loved the know you are a special person for their daddy, You’re music is so amazing and brings so much
rest of your songs too, like «Everybody» and and I LIKE IT. Please, never stop to make us feel joy to my life. Your live shows are spectacular
«Spotlight» Which are still great today! Oh, and that way. and well worth the price of admission! Can’t wait
«Burning Up» will be bitching for a long time to Paco, Spain for the new tour, I’m on pins and needles! Thanks
come. To my surprise, I can’t think of anything so much Madonna!
else that I want to say right now! Except, that I have been a fan since first hearing Borderline Brian, USA
you’re the «Marilyn Monroe» of our generation. and Holiday (that ages me). My parents always
By that I mean you’ve made such a major impact said my Madonna fascination was a phase. It has Dear Madonna,
on society, that you’ll never be forgotten. been a long phase that has only intensified over I really look forward to your 25th Anniversary
Love you always, the years. I get just as excited with new songs later this year and I have so high hopes that you
Jennifer, USA and videos now as I did back then. I’ve grown up will release a new Hits Collection and a new
with Madonna and she still influences my life. more Complete Video Collection on DVD with all
Madonna - What to say to a legend and an icon Her song «Jump» helped to motivate me to go your 62 Videos on it and I have been dreaming
such as yourself...I have been a fan since the back to graduate school and start working on my of this for such a long time. And a few of my
first single release and have continued to follow master’s degree. I can not wait to see what the favorite Videos that are not including on any
your work through the years. I never cease to future brings for both me and Madonna!! Collection is Dress You Up, Live To Tell and True
be amazed with the way you continue to push Todd, USA Blue. I really really loved these Videos of yours so
the limits with everything you do. I applaud you Please Please Madonna I just hope that you will
for the impact that you have had on MILLIONS Madonna! release them as part of your 25th Anniversary
of people, your fans...such as I who adore you You are and will always be there for me. I was Celebration
and thank you for the difference you have made 14 when you came into my life and changed it. Krister, Sweeden
in my life, not to mention the difference you Today I’m 37. I will always admire your courage,
have made in the lives of the children in Malawi intelligence and sense of humour. You are my
through Raising Malawi. You are an inspiration role model. You push me. You teach me how to
for anyone who has a dream and have inspired never give up and to fight for what I want. You
me to persist at everything I do. I am 42 years show me how to be strong and brave. You have
old and have had many dreams that I just didn’t given me so much joy with your music and the
believe could ever come true. As I’ve grown lyrics to your songs. You have made me a queen
older I have come to realize that my dreams on the dance floor so many times and I love to
are just as important as anyone else’s and that dance. I’ve been able to see you perform live
with determination, strength, persistence and twice, and that’s the best experiences I’ve ever
belief in myself, I can achieve great things in my had. It was totally surreal and I was on a natural
life. NO ONE has had as much of an influence on high all the time. You are really something else.

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“Say which flavour you like


and I’ll have it for you”. Ma-
donna has officially opened
her own Candy Shop on
April 30, 2008. Don’t pre-
tend you’re not hungry, she
has seen it before. Time to
taste Madonna’s brand new
flavours and to join her on
the dance floor!

It’s time to celebrate Madonna fans! The queen is back and once
again, she is giving us what we were all waiting for: Amazing music.
25 years have passed since the release of her very first solo album,
but it all seems just like yesterday. When you put on a new Madonna
album, it never sounds the same as the previous one, but there’s
one that will never change and that is its ability to make you dance
or sing, to get up and to do your thing. ‘Hard Candy’ is her 11th
studio effort but also another instant classic. How can you get to
always make the right choices and go for the music the public is
waiting for? That is part of the Madonna Magic. Whatever people
say, she never disappoints. After the ‘Confessions On a Dance Floor’
storm, you thought she couldn’t get any better. But once again, she
has done it.

Back in early 2007, when Madonna started to work on her new al-
bum, the disco vibe was still huge and she had the option to go for
a follow up to ‘Confessions’, which was the best way to guarantee
a commercial success. By now we’re used to that girl from Detroit,
Michigan and all know she will never go for the easy stuff. It’s not
because you’ve brought back the disco that you need to make it
your own for the next two decades, right? When she first listened
to Justin Timberlake’s ‘Future Sex/Love Sounds’ album, she just ha-
ted it. But she then got to give it another try during some friends’
party and decided to add it to her Ipod playlist. It soon became the
soundtrack to her daily workout sessions and the album she would
play to everyone, all the time. While it is true to say that Timberlake’s

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album was a killer, having our girl to work on her own with him “Nothing’s gonna stop me, if that’s what I want, I will get it”. Doesn’t
was no evidence. What you also need to know is that the Timber- it remind you of someone we all know? Yes, ‘Give it 2 Me’ is probably
lake/ Timbaland collaboration was not part of Madonna’s plan at one of the most autobiographic song Madonna has ever written.
first. When she decided to contact them, she was already working Both the sound and lyrics depict her true self, the girl who never
on some demos with Pharrell Williams, the guy behind a lot of the takes “no” for an answer and who will always get what she wants,
R&B hits released during the past four years. Those demos included no matter if you’re not ready to give it to her. That’s also the story to
‘Candy Shop’ and ‘The Beat Goes On’, which were later reworked and her life, fighting the elements and to get where she wanted to go
added to the finalized album. Madonna was delighted with Phar- from the beginning. This song has to be one of the most positive
rell’s contribution at the time, but she also wanted for her album to songs you could wish for, as it makes you realize that you’re the only
use different styles/sounds and to cover all of the options R&B could one controlling your destiny. If you want something, don’t wait for
bring to her own music. Was it her first R&B experience? Not really as someone else to give it to you, go ahead and get it yourself. No
her 1994 ‘Bedtime Stories’ can be described as “Pop meets R&B”. But wonder why ‘Give It 2 Me’ is one of her fans’ favourites. ;-)
when you get Pharrell to create some Funk inspired tracks, you want
to see how far it can take you, and that is probably what Madonna ‘Heartbeat’ is Madonna’s tribute to music but also to what she is
had on mind when she offered Justin to join her. Would describing made of. “Don’t you know, Can’t you see, When I dance I feel free”.
‘Hard Candy’ as “Funk meets R&B” be wrong? Probably not… You can’t write good songs when music is not the key to your heart.
Basically, Madonna has proved it all the way during the past two
Ok, so we now have Pharrell and Justin. Asking for Timbaland’s decades, and music will always be her own way to express herself.
contribution was Justin’s idea as Timbaland was the other name As she said while being inducted into the Rock N’ Roll Hall of Fame
behind his last studio album, providing his so unique touch to most earlier this year: “I have gone on to do many things in my life, from
of the songs included on the lp. ‘4 Minutes’ was the first track Justin writing children’s books to designing clothes to directing films but
and Madonna wrote together. Originally recalled as ‘4 Minutes to for me it always starts with the Music.” Everything is said.
Save the World’, the track can be best described as what two diffe-
rent musical worlds can bring one another through a single song. We’ve been asking for it for such a long time and there we have it.
The sound is loud, the lyrics are deep and we have two voices to ‘Miles Away’ has to be another classic Madonna ballad. We like it
illustrate a virtual race against the clock. You can instantly feel Tim- when our girl makes us dance the night away, but we also love it
baland’s touch here, not just because of his vocal introduction, but when she takes us miles away from the dance floor, right back to
also because of the heavy beats coming out of the speakers as if our own feelings and roots. ‘Miles Away’ is not about the beginning
they were about to explode. If you fell in love with ‘Hung Up’, back or the end of a love affair. It’s more about the way you love someone
in the late 2005, you probably felt very surprised when you first got for who he/she is or not. Most of us always tend to want for their
to hear ‘4 Minutes’… And that was Madonna’s intention with this lover to look like them or to think the same way as they do. It’s only
track. when the loved one is gone that you realize you were wrong. “Love
me for who I am or I’m gone”, that is my own understanding of it.
Back to the first song of the opus now. ‘Candy Shop’ being the ope- That said, I’m sure you have your own! Also, and in opposition to
ner, it had to reflect the album’s overall mood. “Come into my world, what was said about the song at some point, Madonna didn’t write
taste all of my flavours and you’ll find the one to boggle your senses”. it while on a plane to New York. The idea of it sounds pretty roman-
In a world we’re all afraid to go for things we’ve never tried before, tic, but you don’t necessarily need to be far away from love to write
‘Candy Shop’ is an invitation to go ahead and release our fears and about it.
just enjoy what’s offered to us. Maybe we could end wanting more
of it… It’s all up to you… Who better than Madonna could get us to Do you remember when you first saw that special someone and
think outside the box? that you instantly fell in love with him/her? A brand new love makes
you feel so different, so much more confident and happy. With ‘In-
credible’, Madonna wants to go back in time and feel that way again.
All of you who met love at least once know what she is talking about
but also that such a feeling doesn’t last for long. Is it just because we
get used to it or because passion grows to a more “classic” love after
a little while? ‘Incredible’ is not there to answer that question, but to
make you feel that way again. It starts pretty slowly and gain more
speed, just like a heart beating faster and faster as we get to fall in
love. Good things always have to end, but don’t we all secretly hope
for it to invade us again at some point?

‘Beat Goes On’ is one of those songs that will make you want to
move your feet and celebrate. While you can feel the Pharrell touch
as soon as the song starts, it’s also the only song on the album fea-
turing Kanye West. It reminds you of some of the late 70s’ best an-
thems, like all of the Chic and Imagination stuff, but with a pinch of
R&B. When it comes to the lyrics, they are meant to make you get up
and to just be who you are, no matter what the others around you
can think about it. As with several Madonna songs, this one reminds
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thinking too much and just go for some action instead. Play it loud Released as a 12 tracks CD on April 30 in the US and two days earlier
and just let the rhythm take you! in the rest of the world, ‘Hard Candy’ went straight to the number
one spot in more than 20 countries, making it a new success for
Here comes the second and last Madonna & Justin duet featured Madonna. Talking about success, the Material Girl sports a wrestling
on the album, the other co-produced tracks mainly involving Jus- belt on the picture of the album cover as well as on those featured
tin background vocals. ‘Dance 2night’ is probably the sexiest song in the booklet (photographed by Steven Klein). Madonna decided
those two have worked on. If you ever need a seduction lesson, just to use the boxing theme and the lyrics to her ‘Give It 2 Me’ song as
listen carefully to those lyrics! I’m sure you can imagine the both of main inspiration for the photo shoot, adopting the look of a sexy
them standing on a deserted dance floor, flirting and using dance fighter ready to break a new record. Also part of her boxing themed
as the ultimate way to turn the other on while listening to it. “Do look is a “M-Dolla” (M-Dolla being Pharrell’s nickname for Madon-
you wanna take it further?” is the only clue the song is giving us na) ring made of gold and 258 diamonds, which was designed by
as to what could happen afterwards. Will they get to fall in love or french jeweller Chopard.
just dance with someone else? That is all up to your own imagina-
tion… When it comes to the album’s title, Madonna had it on mind while
in the studio, recording the first demos. “The title is a juxtaposition
Ok, I can hear the bell ringing right now… ‘Spanish Lesson’, the song of tough and sweetness - kind of like I’m gonna kick your ass but it’s
that generated lots of comments. It even received mixed reviews going to make you feel good. And of course, I love candy». This is
from die hard fans who thought it had nothing to do on the al- how our lady described her choice and we have to say it was a thou-
bum. Do you really think Madonna would go for it if that was the gh one! Pushing the Hard Candy theme to its most realistic end,
case? No need to discuss her love for Spanish music after listening the limited edition of the album includes real candies you can taste
to ‘La Isla Bonita’ or to the Spanish version of ‘What it Feels Like For A while listening to our queen’s latest effort (I’m pretty sure most of
Girl’ or even the ‘You’ll See’ one. It is true to say that when listening you wouldn’t even dare to open the plastic bag and give them a try,
to ‘Hard Candy’ for the first time, you have to wonder why ‘Spanish right?!). Once again, the Japanese edition of ‘Hard Candy’ included
Lesson’ pops up right in the last part of it. But after a few of them, a few surprises… The ‘Ring My Bell’ bonus track was one of them,
you understand that it was meant as a transition between the mid along with all of the songs lyrics being included in the album’s boo-
to up-tempo first nine songs and the last two, which are more tor- klet. Co-written by Madonna and Pharrell Williams, ‘Ring My Bell’ was
tured and dark. ‘Spanish Lesson’ gives you the opportunity to not also given away to those of you who pre-ordered the Deluxe edition
take things too seriously before going for more introspective mate- of the album from iTunes.
rial. Just forget about your job, your bills and your problems, just let
yourself go and you’ll soon realize ‘Spanish Lesson’ is what you need To promote her new release, Madonna created different photo
when life doesn’t treat you right. Olé! shoots and shared her thoughts about it through exclusive inter-
views. In addition to the “classic” media campaign, Madonna was
‘Devil Wouldn’t Recognize You’ was co-written by Madonna’s bro- featured on the cover of Vanity Fair, Elle, Q and Dazzed & Confused,
ther-in-law, Joe Henry. Love sometimes lasts, love sometimes go, just to name a few… For the Vanity Fair photo shoot, she teamed
but never on its own. There are always two people involved in a up with long time friend and collaborator Steven Meisel, creating
relationship and always two to put an end to it. There’s usually one a breathtaking series of photographs we most certainly fell in love
of them to blame for it and the other to feel sorry for. When it ends, with the very minute we saw them. The giant globe featured on
it’s also usually because the one to blame was too blind to see that the magazine’s cover was signed by Madonna and later sold by
he/she was not acting the right way. And it’s also usually because Vanity Fair on Ebay, all of the benefits being then given to Madon-
the one to feel sorry for got to finally open his/her eyes on the situa- na’s Raising Malawi foundation. The Elle photo shoot was created
tion. Love can hurt. Love can make you do things you’ll get to regret by photographer Tom Munro. This was Munro’s first collaboration
at some point. The one you fell in love with can change along the with Madonna, but she was so happy with the whole series that she
way and turn to be someone you never thought he/she could be. asked for him to direct her upcoming ‘Give It 2 Me’ video! The girl
Why don’t we realize it when we go too far and cross the line? Why also performed 3 promo shows in New York, Paris and during BBC’s
can we get to be so bad that even the devil wouldn’t recognize us? Radio 1 Big Week-end Festival, which will be detailed in the next
Some will keep on asking for more and some will just decide to issue of Icon, along with some great images.
reject it. Love can make you do or accept crazy things, the only limit
being your own desire. ‘Hard Candy’ is not just her 11th studio album. It not only marks
the beginning of a new Madonna era for all of us, but also another
‘Voices’ is the pretty mystical song Madonna chose as last track for successful project our girl can be proud of. If you’re hungry for more
the album, and was co-written with Justin Timberlake and Nate Hard Candy, then you’ll soon get to see Madonna perfoming some
“Danja” Hills. The lyrics are not only telling you about someone else’s of the album’s songs as part of her 2008 ‘Sticky & Sweet’ Tour! It’s
story but also forces you to think about your own. Introspection is the first time she embarks on a tour so soon after the release of
the word that would describe the song the best. It goes beyond an album. But no worries, it doesn’t mean that she won’t serve us
what your eyes can see and take your vision of life and love to ano- with more singles, remixes and videos. The album was described
ther level, a more complicated one. Are you in control of your life as a collection of potential number 1 hits, so get ready for more
or its poor victim? You need to make a choice at some point and candies coming your way. Some candies you will be able to enjoy
decide on what you want to do: Assume who you are or just deny it without moderation…
by saying it’s someone else’s fault. When one is not strong enough
to be the master of his own destiny, then he can get for those who
love him to pay the price of it. Can you hear the voices? Will they tell
you what to do? Could those “voices” be your own conscience?

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MY SISTER
SPEAK
Back in 1984, Madonna’s Like A Virgin was one of the most played tracks on the
radio, another one was a song called ‘Sweet Dreams’ by Eurythmics. Almost 24
years later, the Material Girl is now also known as The Queen of the Dance Floor,
while the voice behind ‘Sweet Dreams’ is also known for her solo career and
several number one hits. Those two girls never cease to prove that talent can take
you as far as you want, as long as you know how to use it. Comparing Pop and
Rock would be like comparing coffee and tea: both are hot and taste good, but
you will always start the day with the one that please you the most. When it co-
mes to Madonna and Annie Lennox, there’s evidence you can’t ignore: both girls
have a big heart and use their talent to make this world a better place. No need
to wonder why Annie asked Madonna to join her on her ‘Sing’ project and why
Madonna instantly accepted, right? Sing is not just a track featured on Annie’s
latest studio album. It’s also a way to raise money and awareness for the HIV/
AIDS organization. If you haven’t bought the song yet, let Annie tell you more
about this fantastic project and don’t forget that we can all make a difference if
we really want to…

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INTERVIEW

Dear Annie, Welcome to Icon, Madonna’ official fan club! First


of all, we would like to congratulate you on such a fantastic
«I want to empower wo-
new album*! How do you feel now that your latest opus is in
stores? men... to give those who
It’s an exciting time right now. My contractual term with the record have little power a Voice...»
company ended ( after 27 years of being signed!)...which leaves me
very footloose and fancy free creatively. The music “industry” as we Ok, as you can imagine, we now need to talk about the whole
have known it is finally waking up to the fact that technology has SING project! You’ve always been highly involved in the fight
completely taken over the status quo, and everyone is holding their against AIDS, but when and how did you decide to turn this
breath, waiting to see what the future’s going to look like. For me, human fight into a musical one?
it really couldn’t be better in a way. I see myself as a multi faceted
artist, and am looking forwards to creating unique and individual Well, back in the day, I contributed to the first HIV AIDS charity re-
recordings, art pieces, writing, photographs, events etc..via my web- cord, called Red Hot and Blue..which was based around the theme
site. of Cole Porter songs. So the idea of using music to convey the mes-
sage is nothing new. Basically, I became passionately involved with
Back in 1983, Madonna released her very first studio album the issue of HIV AIDS after my first trip to South Africa, where I had
while Sweet Dreams was already a worldwide hit. What did the the opportunity to meet Nelson Mandela, and understand the call
Eurythmics girl with the orange hair think of Madonna and her for assistance he was trying to get across to the rest of the world.
music at the time? The AIDS pandemic is continuing to destroy people’s lives in an uni-
maginable fashion, on an unprecedented scale.
I remember the video for “Like A Virgin”, because ( if I’m correct) Mary
Lambert, who I knew at the time, was the director, and we were all As a mother, I believe that all all mothers should have the right to
so excited at the work she was doing. live, so they can raise their children..and equally, it should be the
I thought Madonna was incredibly self assured, but I don’t think right of a child not to have to become an orphan. AIDS is killing
anyone could have even imagined the immense profile, and ground mothers, and making orphans out of millions of unprotected, vul-
breaking career, as an iconic image maker, music maker, artist, per- nerable children. I am fortunate. I have many resources in my life
former etc....She’s uniquely outstanding in so many ways. that can help to facilitate helping others, and this is my goal. I want
to empower women... to give those who have little power a Voice...
25 years and several albums later, the both of you now evolve That is what SING is all about!
in a world where music is available the minute after it was pro-
duced and can be downloaded from the internet in the blink of In addition to being one of the tracks featured on your new
an eye. How did technology affect your work as an artist? album, SING is also a charity project recorded to raise money
and awareness for the HIV/AIDS organisation and Treatment
It doesn’t thrill me that people can simply download your work, as Action Campaign (TAC), which was founded in South Africa,
if it has no intrinsic value whatsoever, but the horse already bolted back in 1998. Would you tell us more about your latest trip to
out of that stable years ago. To be honest, I think that intellectual Africa and the situation there?
copyright should have been, and should still be protected. The re-
cord companies made outrageous fortunes from artists for far too Despite having many wealthy members in it’s the society, South
long. The kind of contractual terms we signed and agreed to back Africa also has the highest incidence of HIV AIDS, which is an incre-
then were just indecent. dibly serious situation.
One in three pregnant women are HIV positive, which means that
Just like with Madonna’s, your music has been and is still the their babies have a very high risk of being born with the virus, if
soundtrack to a lot of people’s life. How do you feel when thin- they don’t get access to medical treatment. Generations have been
king about it? What are your own musical roots? wiped out for over a decade, and the situation will only continue
to get worse, if it is not effectively responded to. On my trips to SA
I’ve been collating all my work over the years in terms of albums, I have had the opportunity to visit hospitals, hospices, orphanages,
videos, awards, discs, clothes, memorabilia etc...Taking photogra- townships, clinics, and individuals in their homes, who are all strug-
phs of things that people have never seen, so they can be housed gling to survive under the grindingly harsh conditions of chronic
in my website “The House of Me”, and shared with anyone who’s and endemic poverty. I feel that in many ways, South Africa has a
interested. I just used to put things in storage, and forget about kind of AIDS fatigue. So little has been done, to really get the situa-
them, but I think the website creates a wonderful opportunity to tion in hand, and the systems area all rife with corruption, just to
have a kind of “museum/archive/gallery/space/shop window”. compound things even more. Women and children are subjected
to violence and sexual abuse, as a matter of course. I am deeply
If people have enjoyed the music over the years, and it has meant concerned about what lies in store for the future of countless peo-
something to them, then it’s a cause for satisfaction. I can look back, ple....not only in South Africa, but across the continents of Africa,
and feel it was absolutely worthwhile. My own musical roots are India, Asia Latin America and Eastern Europe. Aids has no physical
very eclectic..encompassing everything from Scottish folk music, boundaries.
Tamla Motown and Stax, Joni Mitchell, The Beatles, the Kinks, the
Rolling Stones...Ravi Shankar..Brazil 66...classical music..Debussy,
Bach, Vivaldi...The list is endless.

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Even when you’re Annie Lennox, developing a project as huge Annie, there are so many topics we would like to discuss with
as SING must be quite complicated. How did you get to convin- you, but you’re a very busy woman, so we’d better let you get
ce all of those famous ladies to collaborate on it? back to your work now. Thank you so much for taking the time
to answer our questions. But most importantly, thank you so
Well, I sent out a bunch of letters to various artists, who I thought much for being who you are and for trying to make this world
might be prepared to give it some consideration, and to be honest... a better place. Before you leave, would you have a message for
most of them did. I didn’t personally have to persuade too many of Madonna and her fans?
them to get on board.
The problem is that everybody’s got a busy schedule, and they mi- Madonna’s contribution to The Sing Campaign was hugely signifi-
ght not all be available or accessible, when you might need them to cant...especially as she sang the second verse ( without even being
be! Somehow we did it though! asked more over!) I am terribly grateful for her support and endorse-
ment, and I hope that in years to come we can all look back and say
Recording a song with 23 different artists and bands must be that we REALLY MADE A DIFFERENCE to millions of people’s lives.
above insane in terms or organisation! Did you all record your
part during the same session or separately? And what about
the mixing process? Where you behind it all? For more info about SING, please visit www.annielennoxsing.com
<http://www.annielennoxsing.com>
Obviously people were in different countries and time zones. I thou- *Songs of Mass Destruction / Sony BMG
ght it would simplify things therefore, to simply send everybody the
song, and have them record on top of the backing track in their own
way. The majority of recording took place either in London or LA, via
the benefits of modern technology. I met up with Tom Lord Algae
in Miami, and he mixed it in his studio there.
I made the decision not to give people individual lines to sing, as it
would have made things terribly complicated, but rather use most
of the voices as a “choir”.

As a lot of Madonna fans would like to know about it, did you
know Madonna personally before offering her to collaborate
on SING? Did the two of you meet to discuss the project?

I’ve only ever met Madonna very briefly on a couple of social occa-
sions. We didn’t need to meet to make this happen. People record
in other parts of the world all the time...thank god!
While the original version of SING is included on An-
Quite a lot of us are used to say that they would like to help by nie’s ‘Songs Of Mass Destruction’ album, the song was
donating to a great cause but also end not doing it because also released as a CD single and 12’’ vinyl single in
they are not sure their money would be used the right way. the UK in March 2008, including several club/dance
What is your reaction to this? What would be your message to remixes. The EP available through online retailers in-
them? cludes the following versions:
I think they are entitled to feel this way, and I completely un-
derstand how they might feel. I don’t want my time and ef-
• Moto Blanco Club Remix
fort wasted either, so I’m committed to following through how • Dean Coleman Silent Sound Vocal Remix
any financial gain is used, so that I can be sure that it’s effective. • Harry Choo Choo Romero Club Mix
• Moto Blanco Dub
Treatment Action Campaign is very grassroots, engaging with ordi- • Dean Coleman Silent Sound Radio Edit
nary people at a very local level, which is one of the reasons I like it’s
• Moto Blanco Radio Remix
approach, and I have the utmost respect for Zackie Achmat who is
the founder of the organisation. This is not a short hit thing for me. • Harry Choo Choo Romero Radio Mix
I’m fully committed to dedicating my time and effort, and am in for • Harry Choo Choo Romero HCCR Mix Show
the long haul.

You are one of those artists who believe that we can make a
difference by joining our efforts. If you could change just one
thing about the world we live in, what would it be?

Oh..only ONE thing?? OK...I think that many of us are half asleep, too
self obsessed, or distracted to realise that if we want change, we
need to BE it. It’s that simple.

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«If You Only had 4 Minutes
To Save The World,
What Would You Do?»
«Next Question!»
…That’s Madonna’s answer to the interviewer who was taking the title of her song as a real chal-
lenge. That’s right, you can’t save the world in 4 minutes. But at the same time, 4 minutes is more
than you need to understand what this song is all about: Dance until the very last second of it.

It’s about time. That’s the comment we probably all made when because of ‘4 Minutes’ being a duet. And all of us fans know that
we finally got to listen to the first single to be taken from Madon- Madonna never used a duet as first single during the past 25 years.
na’s 11th studio album. ‘4 Minutes’ is exactly what you could ex- This one time exception proved to be a success, as ‘4 Minutes’ be-
pect from Madonna in 2008. It’s just in total opposition with her came an instant hit worldwide.
last album’s sound and there’s nothing better than entering a new
Madonna era while you know she will once again get to surprise “4 Minutes to save the world”…? When Justin attended the recor-
you. Ok, we all knew it was a Timberlake/ Timbaland collaboration ding of the Ellen show mid May, he explained that ‘4 Minutes’ was
even before the song premiered, but none of us said it was just the first track him and Madonna had worked on. At the time, he
what we thought it would be. ‘4 Minutes’ is a song you need to wanted for the song’s lyrics to be sexy and more aligned with his
get used to. It is so different from a classic Madonna song that any latest studio album while Madonna wanted them to sound more
fan would feel confused after listening to it for the first time. Come serious. “You can’t save the world in four minutes. Alright, we’re
on guys, it’s Madonna & Justin! You thought it would use the vibe going to save the world in four minutes” Justin told Madonna.
found on Timberlake’s ‘Future Sex/ Love Sounds’ album? You were “Ok, I’ll call this song ‘4 Minutes To Save The World’” she answered.
wrong. ‘4 Minutes’ is more to be described as a virtual sound battle Who said you had to spend hours on it to find a title that matches
between the Queen of Pop and the Prince of R&B. Some die hard a song the best? Certainly not those two! All of the song’s lyrics
Madonna fans were also expecting for this duet to be the Madon- were written after the title and using the concept Madonna had
na & Michael Jackson duet finally coming to life. And they were on mind for both the song and video. ‘4 Minutes’ had to be about
wrong too. While Timberlake is a huge Jackson fan, you just can’t “dance until you drop” and the fact that this song could be the one
compare his sound to Jackson’s. They are both using the same in- playing right after the end of the world is announced. Run as fast
fluences, but Justin’s are the natural evolution of Michael’s early as you can or death will catch you, tic toc tic toc.
80’s songs with an additional pinch of a dirty-sexy vibe.
While Timbaland co-produced the song, he was also the one to
Another comment coming right after listening to the ‘Hard Can- test it on the crowds during some of his own club appearances.
dy’ album is that ‘4 Minutes’ does not reflect the album’s overall First playing the instrumental version of it, he then added some of
sound. That’s true, and it’s just probably because a battle between the vocals and put the whole dance floor on fire. If you can get a
a queen and a prince has to be done within just one round. Those mainstream song to work on clubbers, then you’re almost sure it’s
two had so much to bring ‘Hard Candy’, that they went for diffe- going to be huge when commercially released. And as with most
rent themes and sounds instead of sticking to just one of them. of Madonna’s past releases, ‘4 Minutes’ turned the crowds on, gi-
Well, it doesn’t explain the reason behind Madonna choosing it as ving her another reason to make it the album’s lead single. Do we
the first single. The rumours say that she wanted for Candy Shop need to add that it went straight to the number one spot on the
to be used as the album’s lead single and changed her mind after Billboard Hot Dance/ Club Play chart a few weeks later?
several of her collaborators told her ‘4 Minutes’ should be THE one.
Remember back in 1990, when the same happened with ‘Vogue’? Turning words into images might be pretty hard, especially when
Madonna didn’t know if she should include the song on the ‘I’m it’s all about running faster than death… At the time, Justice’s
Breathless’ soundtrack, ‘Vogue’ being too different from the rest ‘Dance’ was all over music channels but our girl discovered it while
of the album… She was right by listening to her entourage and surfing on the internet (her not watching tv is a fact, really). She
made the right choice again almost 18 years later with ‘4 Minu- instantly fell in love with the special effects featured in the video
tes’. Another reason behind Madonna’s first choice was probably and decided to contact the French men behind it, Jonas &

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Francois. The guys were asked to create a story board for Madon- Once again, Warner Bros made us fans happy by releasing the re-
na’s new video and won out of the different ideas submitted by mixes through 2 different sets: one regrouping all of the remixes in
various directors. The next week, the guys flew to London for a their full club version as well as two dubs, and the other featuring
very special meeting with the queen of all things avant-garde. Ma- the edits. I really wonder why they included Junkie XL’s Dub edit
donna wanted for them to share more details about their concept instead of the vocal one? Guess only God knows!
but had soon to realize their spoken English wouldn’t be of help.
Using their hands and smiles as the only tools to depict the dif- Now, let’s take you behind the scenes of Madonna’s ‘4 Minutes’
ferent scenes to be included in the video, both guys’ vision was single. That’s your favourite part, right? Its mine too! In opposition
just what Madonna was looking for. Filmed in London in February to the Hard Candy artwork, the single uses a black & white pic-
20008, the ‘4 Minutes’ video includes tons of visual effects as well ture of Madonna and Justin, which was not taken by Steven Klein
as an unforgettable dance battle between Madonna and Justin, but by Madonna’s manager, Guy Oseary. While on the set of the ‘4
Timbaland being seen during the video’s intro as well as within Minutes’ video, Guy took several pictures, some illustrating this ar-
the last few seconds of it. Did you ever try to jump from the top ticle (Thank you Guy!). And while you could think the photograph
of a car wearing high heels? That’s just no problem when you’re featured on the single’s cover artwork was taken in front of a white
Madonna! The finalized video premiered on iTunes April 3, just 48 background, it wasn’t! It was taken in the corner of the bathroom
hours before topping the devoted iTunes chart both in the US and you can see in the video, Madonna not sitting on a black cube but
Europe. Talking about the digital world and related records, it only on the white chair found right next to the bathroom’s door. The
took ‘4 Minutes’ five weeks to become the second single ever to story doesn’t tell if it was Guy’s idea to have them form a “4” and “M”
have digital sales exceeding one million units in five weeks, Rihan- with their legs, but Madonna ended up loving the pictures and
na’s ‘Umbrella’ being the only song to make a better score. decided to pick one of them for the cover artwork.

«That’s right, critics have yet to understand


that you can’t stop our girl from going
where you think she shouldn’t go.»

While the album version of ‘4 Minutes’ was making its way to the While reviewing the whole set of pictures, you can tell they both
top of the charts, a full set of remixes was being put together by had lots of fun posing!
Orlando Puerta’s office at Warner Bros. For the first time in Madon-
na history, none of them were pressed on promotional 12 inch So many things were said about ‘4 Minutes’ and Madonna’s new
vinyl singles, most club deejays now getting remixes sent to them sound… That’s right, critics have yet to understand that you can’t
by record companies as mp3 files (sad news for our Madonna col- stop our girl from going where you think she shouldn’t go. At
lection, I know…). Classic Madonna remixers like Tracy Young and the end of the day, she always proves she was right by giving it a
Peter Rauhofer providing respectively tribal and hard house ver- chance and that’s probably what annoys them the most. Twenty
sions of the song (Rauhofer “saving” almost every single city in the five years have passed and she is still “Ready to Jump”, setting new
world through his remixes), while French remixer/ producer Bob trends, taking the right decisions and pushing the right buttons.
Sinclar was commissioned a Space Funk themed remix. For those When you’ve been a musical critic for years and got used to those
of you who wonder why Madonna picked Bob Sinclar, you need one hit wonders, you can’t help but feel disturbed by that girl co-
to know that she had him to open the French leg of her Confes- ming out with one anthem after another, no matter what you can
sions Tour back in 2006, Sinclar being one of the most famous write about her, positive or negative. Yes, Madonna has changed
deejay in his country at the time, before turning to be more and the music industry and is still working hard on it. “Rules are there
more successful all over Europe. The sound found on his remix of to be broken”, that is what she is used to say. If one of those rules
‘4 Minutes’ reminds of his first huge track, ‘Gym Tonic’, which was claims that you cannot save the world in 4 Minutes, let’s bet Ma-
released almost 12 years ago. Back in the day, Jane Fonda sued donna can prove it wrong!
Sinclar for including a sample of her aerobic training videos into
the song. Also featured on the maxi-single are a vocal and dub
versions by Junkie XL. We all got to discover their sound through
their hot remixes of Britney Spear’s ‘Toxic’ back in 2004, and we
now can confirm that their musical evolution has turned to be a
positive one (isn’t their ‘4 Minutes’ remix one of the most tripping
experiences you’ve ever had on the dance floor?).

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If you loved Justice’s “Dance” video, then you’ve already probably heard about Jonas & Francois, the French
directors behind it. It seems that Madonna also liked it, as she asked for the guys to work on a concept for
her own “4 Minutes” video. The directors took the time to answer our questions and also share their thoughts
about their very first Madonna collaboration.

Jonas and Francois, welcome to Icon, Madonna’s Official Fan work while developing a concept?
Club. We would like to start off by finding out a little more It’s the exact contrary for us. As there are two of us, we like to mix our
about the people behind those two names. How did you guys ideas, concepts and different visual ideas. We don’t see it as some-
meet? thing that needs to be 50-50 when it comes to ideas, we don’t make
concessions, we are not « creative room mates ». We can’t have each
We are both 25 and met 7 years ago during our 1st year at the of us developing his own ideas alone, our best ideas come when
French Beaux Arts. We very quickly started to collaborate on seve- we are both sitting down on the ground and talk and talk for hours !
ral artistic projects (paintings, photography, fine arts…) but video
really helped us to “meet”. We didn’t really have the same cinema- We usually always start with new ideas. It’s not as if ideas that
tographic or video references, not even the same music culture. have been developed before are useless but we don’t like to
But this how it all happened, with video making. recycle or use old concepts. To us, our ideas for a video always
reflect a certain time in our lives. Also, we get tired very quic-
As far as music is concerned, Jonas used to listen to jazz, some kly with it when a project is not realized quickly enough.
old rock titles, as well as early electro. I was more concentrated
on recent UK or US based rock. We later, together discovered the The other main characteristic of our work sessions is that we try
electro scene. To make it short, we listen to music all the time and and develop as many visions as we can for one video. We carefully
the making of videos was more or less something that was bound analyse the sound, the lyrics, draw sketches and go very much
to happen in our lives anyway. into details. It doesn’t always help, well it depends, but it always
On the visual side, it was almost the same thing: our differences allows us to bring out a lot of ideas. In fact it’s a way to take some
eventually mixed in together, Jonas’ cinema culture, more video distance and think about it in different ways.
clips for myself (François), and we both are very up to what is hap-
pening now, to everything that is…different. What we need now is a place to develop these so called concepts.
Jonas remembers « the room of ideas » his grandfather used to go
Making videos was not our main goal when we started Art school. to pick up some stories and write them down along with some
We were there to study design, sculpture, drawing, “hand made” drawings. It was some kind of little empty room, filled with a chair,
animation and photography. But our first videos were some kind a bucket with water and ions, as well as a hose that would com-
of natural evolution. Our first creations were experimentations municate with the outside (more or less). We would like to try that
that used video but without much emotions but rather some kind kind of stuff, and see what could come out of it!
of frenetic desire to create animated stuff on screen, building up
our own images. The release of Justice’s ‘Dance’ video allowed the whole world
to discover your work. Who decided to include animated t-
During our studies at the Arts Décoratifs in Paris, we decided to shirts in the video? Madonna brought back the “let your clo-
send our work to different production houses in Paris. This is how, thes say it all” concept back in the early 2000’s. Did it inspire
while in the middle on our scholar process, we got to work on our you somehow?
first videos, which were small budget ones.
The idea of the animated T-shirts was somewhere in our heads,
Working together on one project is not always easy, especial- like a video that had never been done. But nothing really looked
ly when it comes to the creative side of things. How do you like the same as in ‘Dance’. We are great fans of printed t-shirts.

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That’s what we wear all the time, along with a pair of jeans. It goes ting, and that we then try to include in the finalized video (when
beyond inspiration! Ed Banger, Justice’s label, actually came up they work). We just can’t help it… It’s our own way of working!
with the idea. It was already used for the visual of the vinyl single
(a frame of Gaspard and Xavier being featured on t-shirts). Your Myspace page states that you are both 25 years old. Al-
most all of the past 25 years were filled with at least one Ma-
So the idea of animating the artwork featured on the t-shirts was donna hit. Can we say you’ve grown up listening to her songs
a logical follow up to our previous video for Ed Rec Vol 2, the com- or were you more into other music styles?
pilation, which everyone loved: we made an animation from all
the artworks of the label’s vinyl releases and included it on blank Of course, we grew up with her. By the way, during the last days
moving albums. of production, while we were putting together the last seconds
of the video, we made a blind test: it might happen that we
We’ve watched almost all of Madonna’s videos at least once, as didn’t remember the title, but all the gigs were very familiar. It’s
well some other cult ones by Jackson, Radiohead or Bowie. They really great to think that this one « will be ours »! Back in the day,
are all part of our culture and inspire us at some point, even un- If one of us was listening to some particular stuff while the other
consciously like a bible in a way, but not necessarily something we was more into a different style, we both listened to Madonna.
will consciously think about while developing our own projects.
The printed t-shirts have always been part of our lives, but it’s true Let’s discuss your latest creation… You’ve just directed Ma-
that back in the early 2000’s, some cool coloured logos and typos donna’s ‘4 Minutes’ video. How did you get to work on the
started to be used on t-shirts. If Madonna is behind it, then it’s project? What was your reaction when Madonna decided she
pretty funny! wanted to work with you?

Tecktonic is almost everywhere lately, not only in France One day, our producer called us: Madonna was inviting us to listen
but also in all of Europe. Your work fits that concept so per- to the first single of her new album. A few days later, we went to
fectly… Do you feel inspired by Tecktonik or is it more about London, in her office, and listened to « 4minutes » and « Candy
people using your work as main inspiration while developing Shop » as a bonus! Like with any video related project, there was a
Tecktonik related projects? competition between several directors and so we decided to wri-
te down a concept and create an artistic file. Some days later, we
We don’t really see the link between our work and Tecktonik, ex- were back there again, presenting our project using sketches and
cept they wear bright coloured t-shirt and sneakers. That’s the drawings all over the floor, while « 4minutes » was playing in the
only thing our work and the artists we work with have in common background: it was totally incredible, us standing on our knees,
with Tecktonik. We don’t like to be part of a movement that uses with Madonna, showing and tracing the movements of each part
its own defined codes while pretending to be all about self-ex- between the different sets, already thinking of all of the dancing
pression. playgrounds to be used for the choreographed parts.

Your creations use a mix of images and graphic effects. How Most importantly, we were very touched that she thought about
would describe the filming of such a video? Do you have to think us. Madonna always worked with video artists, photographers
about all of the effects you want to add to a particular scene be- or young directors that were just in their early steps, with total
fore filming it? confidence. Chris Cunningham or Johan Renck were about the
same age as us when they directed their first Madonna video. So it
We’ve always liked to mix different techniques, including motion was really incredible to realize that she was interested in our work
images and graphic design, real and fake cameras moves, visible and that we had some ideas that could bring her something new,
special effects or hidden ones, anyway, everything helps us to
show what we have on mind. Sometimes it works, sometimes not
that much, but the idea that comes out of it is the most important
point.

That was how our vision worked a year ago. We keep on following
the same logic these days but we also tend to explore frames and
images and use them in a more photographic way, adding more
narrative stuff to them. That said, we could just change our minds
and do something totally different in the next month. The thing is
that we’ve found a new playground and we want to explore it as
much as we can, working on images in a way we couldn’t in the
past or that we thought we couldn’t. As mentioned before, we
have our moments, we just don’t get stuck to a particular medium
or concept.

A shooting is always organized after the effects we will want to


add afterwards. No one can shoot a scene and then decide on
what he wants to do from it, mixing things without respecting a
logic defined before the filming. We know you can’t because we’ve
already made that mistake. As graphic designers and video artists,
we are used to use bits and try to make something out of them.
We just like it when we have to work in a messy environment.
Anyhow, there are always lots of ideas popping up after a shoo-

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thinking about all of the videos she has done during the past years Weird or funny things usually happen while on the set of a
(most of them turning to be mythical ones). video or movie. Would you share a few behind the scenes me-
mories with us?
We all know that Madonna is also famous for being a perfec-
tionist and that she knows exactly what she wants even be- In the video, there is a scene that was filmed in a bathroom built
fore developing a particular project. Can you confirm? How on a set and Madonna was supposed to put her hand in the bath-
would you describe your collaboration with her from a hu- tub at some point. Once all of the cameras were ready, the bath-
man and artistic point of view? tub was supposed to be filled and put on the set. To us, it sounded
like that it could be done within a few minutes before we could
Madonna is a perfectionist, we realised that during the rehearsals. get to shoot the related scene with Madonna, but the bathtub
During the filming, and even after, during post-production, she was much more deeper than we thought it was! There was no sink
always kept an eye on the film and never let go what she wanted close to the set, and buckets of water would have to be carried
to get. At the same time, she didn’t want to impose us a specific vi- again and again. It couldn’t be done faster so everybody started to
sion and so she gave us the opportunity to think about the project help filling up the bathtub (electricians, assistants, art department,
on our own. We came up with the idea right away, the concept, people on set….us). We were more than 20 people around it.
the sets and what we wanted for the public to see. She left us free
to do what we had in mind and only showed up when she felt we The Cadillac made us laugh too as it was really huge and we had
were running away from the original idea. that « man with big muscles » pushing it. Then Madonna had fun
playing on the shiny and slippery car hood while wearing high-
Speaking about concepts, what was the one behind “4 Minu- heeled boots. She was supposed to walk on it in the first place, but
tes”? Did it evolve during the filming? we then found a more sexy way for her to step over it!

We wrote the video’s concept after our own understanding of the Chris Cunningham directed the ‘Frozen’ video back in 1998,
title. When we first listened to “4 Minutes”, we went through diffe- which was filmed in the Mojave desert. When Madonna got
rent feelings that we all wrote down on paper: some kind of emer- to watch the very first roughs of it, she called Cunningham
gency, a very strong relationship between Madonna and Justin, in the middle of the night, being afraid the images wouldn’t
with Timbaland as the narrator, the idea of something you can’t fit the original concept of the video. What was her feedback
avoid, that something was there and was following them, at the after watching the ‘4 Minutes’ video for the very first time?
same time relating to our own universe.

And this is how the concept became a video in which Madonna The video was already working without the effects. The effects
and Justin Timberlake only have 4 minutes to escape their “immi- just add the graphic and dramatic dimension that was missing.
nent” fate: they happen to walk through revisited daily life spaces, Madonna kept an eye on the post-production process and could
go through the each other’s life, pass by some people that indif- see finished scenes, including effects. She liked and approved all
ferent by and unaware of the imminent threat. There is no panic, of the steps of it, and at the end of the day, we came up with
no drama, but an energetic tension brought by the game and something that we all found very interesting and unique. Then
Madonna and Justin’s choreographies. It also gives us the oppor- Madonna found a way to make us add more stuff than we thou-
tunity to see things like never before, watching the film through ght we would! And it really helped the finalized video. The view
the eyes of the “threat” at some point. from the interior of the effect was an idea we developed with the
graphic crew. We wanted to add some effects where we thought
Madonna, Justin Timberlake and Timbaland all appear in the we couldn’t and that was Madonna who pushed us to work on
video. How do you get to direct such famous people and at such solutions.
the same time handle the pressure it surely involves?
In addition to the ‘4 Minutes’ video, you’ve also worked on the
The pressure was always there, but not for that particular reason, new Flairs. What are your projects for the next 12 months?
just because we didn’t have much time to shoot all of the stuff
we wanted to at first. We were willing to shoot difficult stuff and The Flairs video was released at the same time as ‘4 Minutes’. They
sometimes we had to go to the essential instead. Madonna, Jus- are 2 very different videos: process, budget, concept and result…
tin Timberlake and Timbaland arrived on the set with a precise Anyway, it’s good for us to show that we work like schizophrenic
idea of the story and concept on mind. Once everybody is on the people! We receive projects for advertising, look for people we’d
same wave, it’s pretty easy to make people understand why we like to work with. Everything depends on the idea and the music.
are going in a specific direction, or why some things need to be Nothing is decided yet but we are working on it.
changed.
Guys, thank you very much for taking the time to answer our
The choreographies had been rehearsed several times. It was questions. Do you have a personal message for Madonna?
great to film them. The most difficult part was to adjust our « cha-
racters » to the 4th actor: the camera. Once on the set, things are Yes, of course! We would like to thank her for her trust in us. We’ve
not always as they were on paper. There were the 3 of them, very already given her our personal messages, but we’d also love to say
concentrated and listening to our directions, but also sharing their that we are ready to sign on for another 3/4 months adventure,
feelings on some specific scenes with us. You can’t control stress. working on another video with her!
When it appears, you have to handle it and get rid of it as soon
as possible by finding the right solutions. We didn’t stop doing
this for 3 days. The most helpful against stress is to be reactive,
not being overwhelmed or lost without answers to possible pro-
blems.

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INTERVIEW

There is a very special man involved in Madonna’s Raising Malawi foundation. Someone who understood
Madonna’s desire to make things change in Malawi the very second she asked him to join her. Someone
who understood that loving someone else at least as much as himself could make a difference. He is not
the kind of person you will find posing for photographers. No, he prefers to give the best of him to people
who are in the need. He is someone we admire, but also a man who doesn’t take no for an answer, just
like Madonna. Philippe Van Den Bossche is most certainly the best person to tell you more about Madon-
na’s involvement in the whole Raising Malawi project. Let’s learn more about him through this exclusive
interview.

Dear Philippe, Welcome to Icon, Madonna’s Official Fan Club. As Earlier this month, you’ve attended ‘A Night to Benefit Raising
the Executive Director for Raising Malawi and Director of De- Malawi and UNICEF’ with Madonna in New York. How did it all
velopment for the Spirituality for Kids Foundation, you are the happen? How would you describe that very special night and
man behind causes close to Madonna’s heart. Would you tell us the way it helped spreading the word?
a little more about you and why you decided to get involved in
both projects? The event, like everything we do, was an incredible collaboration
– a collaboration between GUCCI, the United Nations, UNICEF and
Thank you so much for the opportunity to share my experiences RAISING MALAWI. The experience for me was evidence that we
with you. It’s always an honor to serve madonna and communi- are turning a page in our culture. That people all over the world
cate the power of her intention. I have been involved with many (not just the wealthy and powerful) are starting to realize that we
projects around the world (for madonna and others) – projects all share a common fate. That we have a responsibility to help
that help those in need. And i am motivated by the belief that the poorest and weakest members of society. That it’s not just
“we can never truly be happy in life – not really happy - until we something that we should do, but something that we will do—
care for other people at least as much as we care for ourselves.” So, together.
several years ago, i decided that i would, in my small way, work
to quietly serve two masters: the most vulnerable people in the So many celebrities attended the event, including some of Ma-
developing world, and those who possess the greatest resources. donna’s close friends. How did you feel when all those famous
I see myself as a middle man between those who want to share people joined you and Madonna on the red carpet, ready to do-
their gifts and those who need those gifts most. Over time, i have nate of their time and financial help?
learned that madonna is really my favourite philanthropist. She’s
a model of intelligence, compassion, commitment, sharing and My personal mission is to help create great change in the world by
tenacity. So, when madonna asked for my help, i knew that she leveraging the gifts of the world’s agents of change. And, many of
would pursue her philanthropy as she does her career, and i had them were at the event. I knew that the depth of their generosity
to be a part of that. would motivate and inspire others, especially the countless fans
and supporters who admire them, to feel that they too can join
You are behind the whole Raising Malawi project, helping Ma- Madonna in this effort. On a personal level, this event felt like the
donna to spread the word on a really great and important cau- manifestation of 2 years of hard work and commitment.
se. What is your day-to-day schedule made of? What about the
collaboration process between you and Madonna? You’ve joined Madonna on her last two visits to Malawi and
already went there several times during the past years. How
I see myself as a manifestor. Every day, i try to create a series legen- can you describe her reaction when she first met with all those
dary accomplishments – not of profit and gain, but of contribu- children? Would you say that the woman you saw that day had
tion. I simply help madonna create the projects that are most nothing to do with the one singing and dancing on stage?
closely connected to her values. She loves to care for all children
in need, especially girls who are abused and repressed – which is That kind of journey has a profound impact on anyone willing to
why we are now creating an innovative, progressive and sustaina- embark on it, and Madonna is no different. I think any mother who
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infant who is dying of treatable illness is moved on a very deep level. In collaboration with Consol Homes, Raising Malawi recently
What I saw that day was a woman who could connect with chil- opened an Orphan Care Centre. What is the main purpose of the
dren experiencing overwhelming pain and chaos; a woman who centre? Did you go to Malawi since its inauguration?
could share their suffering; a woman who would make a lifelong
commitment to raise their standard of life. It was not her position The philosophy behind the Orphan Care Centre—and of all of our
in the world, but rather her humanity and compassion that was dis- work in Malawi—is simple: empower and support the smartest and
played. most dedicated people on the ground and in the villages. Give the
mothers and grandmothers and village headmen the resources
When visiting the Raising Malawi website, you can’t help but feel they need to help create a better future for their children. As we
moved after looking at those pictures and the mix of joy and pain provide daily meals, medical care, educational scholarships, and
you can see in those children’s eyes. Do you get to talk to them psycho-social support through the Orphan Care Centre, we also
when visiting the country? Put aside their situation and own seek the input of the entire village on how to best manage this pro-
culture, are they different from children you would meet in other cess. We have hired many of the widows and elderly caretakers in
parts of the world? the community to work with us at the Orphan Care Centre, which is
very much appreciated by the villagers.
I do have an opportunity to connect with these children during my I’m proud to say that I have been to Malawi many times since the
visits, and in many ways those are the relationships that provide me inauguration and I can tell you that the village is so proud and than-
with the strongest motivation to do more. There is one child in par- kful to have the Orphan Care Centre. Moreover, the children really
ticular that inspires me and haunts me to this day. I met him during have the education to succeed – not just survive- in their lives.
my first visit; he was about 10 years old and he was the head of his
household, which unfortunately is very common in certain parts of Philippe, thousands of Madonna fans are going to read this in-
Malawi. Within moments of meeting him I knew that I had to do terview. As the man who gives so much of his time and efforts
everything I could to help him. I also knew that this was going to into the Raising Malawi project, what would you like to tell them
be a challenge: if I was to give him money to buy food or medicine about the different ways to get involved and help you and Ma-
or a pair of shoes, he would become vulnerable to theft and attacks donna to “Raise Malawi”?
from older children. All I could do was try in my own way to make
him feel really special and let him know that he had value. While I would first ask them to adopt the philosophy that we all have the
spending time with him, I discovered that despite everything that responsibility and power to help these children – even though we
he had suffered through: poverty, parental loss, chronic hunger—he may not be celebrities or aid workers; even though we night think
was exactly the same as any other child in the world. A few months we have few gifts to share.
later, I found out that he had died of AIDS. After experiencing this I would ask them to understand that if we all just cared a little bit
kind of personal loss, it has become so important to me that we more, and then took action to prove our care - even if only in our
all recognize that we are equal. That these children are no different small way - that the world would be a better place. I would ask them
than children in any other part of the world—no different than our to make a commitment to dedicate an hour or two a week or a
own children. And they need our help and support. month to help children in need—it’s so easy to do. Contact us, we
will help you. You can do it from home.
Three years ago, most of us had never heard of Malawi. Thanks
to your amazing work and to Madonna’s devotion to the cause, Thank you so much for taking the time out of your busy schedule
we now know more about the situation there. How did donations to answer our questions Philippe. On a more personal note, is
help since the creation of Raising Malawi and what are the main there something you would like to say to Madonna about her fi-
goals for the future? ght for children in Malawi but never got to tell her before?

At the end of the day, you can have an incredible program, the most I think even Shakespeare would find it difficult to choose words that
experienced team, and the best of intentions, but if you don’t have adequately convey the deep sense of gratitude, respect and love I
the necessary funding, those programs are not going to be effecti- have for Madonna. I have become a better person because of her. I
ve—they are not going to manifest lasting results. Having said that, think the best thing I could tell her is “Thank You.” Everyone should
the overwhelming response that Raising Malawi has received be- realize that behind the exterior is a woman who is using every
cause of Madonna’s involvement and personal commitment is ha- ounce of her energy, intelligence, resources and love to improve
ving a tremendous impact on the lives of Malawi’s children. We have the world.
been able to expand feeding programs, place doctors and dentists
in orphan care centres, scale up our commitment to providing psy-
cho-social support to abused and traumatized children—and this is For more info about Raising Malawi or to get involved, please visit www.
only the beginning. raisingmalawi.org
Our main goal for the future is to constantly improve the work
we are already doing. If we can create a precedent in Malawi—a
country that many had previously written off as “hopeless”—then
we can also help a lot of other children who are in need elsewhere.

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MEETING HER FANS

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On March, 10 2008, Madonna was inducted into the Rock N’ Roll Hall Of Fame. In order for one to receive such honor one
needs to be a living legend, an artist who has brought a lot to the music world. Madonna is without question one of those
people and has proved to be the most successfull female artist in history. When it comes to accepting an award, our girl can
be quite shy. But this time, she came up with a speech those in attendance will not soon forget. Making funny references
to her early years, she also shared some facts even her most devoted fans didn’t know. She most likely had a blast writing
and reading it... But maybe not as much as Liz “The Validator” Rosenberg while discovering what the Material Girl had to say
about her first encounter with her! We asked Madonna to give us a copy of her memorable speech as we’re sure that you’ll
enjoy reading it again and again…

It’s a great honor to receive this award and I am grateful and appreciative for Then suddenly I was in a band, doing gigs at CBGB’s and Max’s Kansas City
the acknowledgement that this implies but there is something finite about an and then suddenly I was meeting Seymour Stein hooked up to an IV drip
award and I would like to reflect for a moment on the things in my life which in a hospital.
have not been and continue to not be finite. Then suddenly I was signed to Sire Records
I have always, been fortunate to have people around me that believed in me. and then Suddenly I was rolling around in a wedding dress at the MTV
Starting with my ballet teacher in Detroit Michigan, Christopher Flynn, who awards with my underpants showing and one of my high heels missing
told me at the age of 14 that I was special and that I should go out into the and my manager, in the dressing room afterwards, white as a ghost was
world and follow my dreams. I can assure you I did not feel special at the time freaking out and telling me my career was over.
and those words meant everything to me. Then suddenly I was on the stage of Madison Square Garden and every
And then there was Dan Gilroy. He lived in an abandoned synagogue in Queens girl was dressed like me.
with his brother Ed and they had a band together. Dan was my boyfriend at the
time and I was sick of being an out of work dancer so he taught me how to And then suddenly and suddenly and suddenly.
play the guitar. When Dan and Ed were away at there day jobs I would practice That’s one way of looking at it.
playing the drums to Elvis Costello records. I would practice the 4 chords I
learned on the guitar. The other way of looking at it, is that everything happened exactly as it
I wrote my first song in that synagogue. It was called Ironically, Tell The Truth. was supposed to happen.
I remember the hair standing up on my arms when I finished it and thinking, That I worked with the amazing people I was supposed to work with,
“Who wrote that song?? That wasn’t me.” It was almost as if I was possessed by That I travelled to the places I was supposed to travel to,
some kind of magic. That I made the mistakes I was supposed to make,
And that magic continues to miraculously possess me. That the Universe would conspire to help me and guide me all the way up
And even now my Manager Guy Oseary, who is out there in the audience, says to this moment in time where I finally have the chance to say
to me almost everyday, “M, anything is possible. What do you want to achieve” “Thank You to so many People”
and I know that he means it.
35 years later people are still encouraging me to believe in my dreams. First and foremost my record company Warner Bros. whom I have been
What more could I ask for? with for my entire recording career.
There is a saying in the Talmud that for every blade of grass there is an angel Not many people can say that.
that watches over it and whispers Grow, Grow. Then there’s Michael Rosenblatt who more or less discovered me in a ni-
I can still hear those angels whispering. ght club, he told me he was an A and R guy at Sire Records. I had no idea
And even the nay sayers, the ones who said I was talentless, that I couldn’t sing, what that meant but it sounded important so I jammed my demo tape
that I wouldn’t last. They helped me too. They made me question myself and into his hand and after taking a tab of extacy with him and dancing the
they made me push harder. And I am grateful for their resistance. night away I was introduced to the next person I need to thank.
I know that I would not be up here right now without all of it.
Without all of you. Because life, like art, is a collaboration. I did not get here on That’s Seymour Stein. To know Seymour is to love him. Who takes mee-
my own. And why would I want to? tings with people when they’re gravely ill in a hospital bed?? I mean I
thought the guy was going to die but he asked me to play my music for
There is no way I could have ever imagined that my life would have unfurled as him on the boombox I was carrying so I did. I am happy to say that Sey-
it has. In one way it feels like a series of suddenly’s. mour is still with us, alive and well.
One day I was a struggling dancer in Manhattan and then suddenly I was tea-
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OK so far we have synagogues, nightclubs and hospitals. his 2 cents in, especially when I did not ask for it. He was the most ambitious,
Does any of this sound strange?? Believe me it just got stranger. confident, idealistic, hungry for knowledge 18 year olds I had ever met.
The next person I have to thank is Liz Rosenberg. She was and still is the He kept pestering me with his ideas, he never stopped scheming, he was
head of publicity at Warner Brothers Records. Does anyone understand the relentless. And today he is my manager and I know he would fly to the ends
insanity of being my publicist for the last 25 years? of the earth for me. Thank you Guy.
I think she was smoking a joint the first time I met her. Of course she put it
out as soon as I walked in the room but I knew we were going to hit it off. She But what’s a record label and a manager without the music?
was tough and irreverent and funny. My kind of girl. Without Nile Rodgers, Pat Leonard, Baby Face, Joe Henry, William Orbit, Mi-
After dealing with the nutcases she has had to deal with and putting out the rwais Amadzai, Stuart Price, Pharrell and now Justin Timberlake and Timba-
fires she has had to put out it’s a wonder she isn’t shooting up heroin now. land. I feel so lucky to have been able to work with such gifted and talented
I don’t mean to grass everyone up or make it sound like I ended up with a songwriters and producers.
bunch of drug addicts. The reality is that I ended up with a group of very Thank you.
responsible hard working, people who gave me enormous amounts of love
and support along with everyone else at my record company. To my Fans who have stuck by me through thick and thin, God knows there
has been a lot of thick. Thank you.
So then I needed a manager. I asked myself, “Self, who is the most success-
ful artist in the music business today?” And my Self answered back, “Michael To the Semtex Girls, who are my soldiers and I know they would walk throu-
Jackson” So oF I went to LA to find the man who managed Michael Jackson gh the fire with me. Thank you.
and make him MY manager.
To my teachers my friends, and my family,
Cut to Freddy DeMann, the ultimate Mac Daddy manager, slicked back hair, I thank you all for facilitating this journey which for me has only just begun.
tanned, smelling of very expensive cologne. And for reminding me that I am only the manager of my talent, not the
He had a Big Desk, He smoked a cigar, He drove a Porsche, owner.
He gave me a ride back to my hotel in that Porsche and by the time we got
there he managed me. We had an amazing 15 years together, he taught me I have gone on to do many things in my life, from writing children’s books
a lot in those 15 years and I am very grateful for that wisdom. to designing clothes to directing films but for me it always starts with the
And it’s while I was with Freddy that I met this cocky Israeli teenager named Music.
Guy Oseary. He was like Freddy’s step and fetch it boy. He was always putting Thank you.

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