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ANALYSES PROCEDURE NO POST PROBLEM ON LAPTOP MOTHERBOARD CIRCUIT By Adie Dkhaz on

Friday, February 27, 2015 at 9:34am First thing to do is Power Drain ,remove battery pack with out
power adapter. push Power switch button for 30~50 second to realist EMI inductions .get the power
and try to boot up again . If still no response ,follow stepping procedure below : 1a. Take of all non
onboard device : Hdd,Odd,keyboard, bloutooht , webcam , modem , wifi , card reader,cmos battery
(any plug in device using S0) to edentified any conflict reading by PCH.

1b. Processor / SODIM tested , SWITCH on again. 1c. physical analysis components :memory sockets
loose ,component crashes , burns , cracked , broken or any form of physical damage .(Make a
replacement if any)1d.check procesor vccore voltage ( schema apply ) or any discrite vccore circuit to
powered processor .example ic / chip For cpu power is : ( schema languages : VCCORE / CORE CPU
/CPU DC / POWER processors )Example :Vccore IC (ADP3166 ADP3170 ADP3421 AIC1567 CS5322
FAN5056 ITC1709MAX1710/MAX1711/MAXl712 HIP6004 , ADP3212'MAX8760 , MAX8770 ,
MAX8771 , ISL6260, ISL6265A , ISL6266A , ISL62882 , ISL6262A,ISL6218CV- T , ISL6269CCR ... etc ) see
Vccore Ic sample here :

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&theater Get detil of datasheet info to knowing any pin description and enable signal .
http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/351550/ONSEMI/ADP3212A.html

1e : check for memory and power voltage conductors and ground socket interfacememory Vccram
usually require voltage 1.8 /0.8VTT(DDR2) or 1.5V/0.75VTT (DDR3)plus sign indicates that it may be
more than nominal voltage Similarly, themeasure vccore , the schema index view we can perform
schema checking on ordersexamples of memory / power SODIM ( schema languages : VDDR /
POWER MEMORY / VTERM / DDR PWR ) icexamples :(MAX8794NCP5201 SC1486/SCl486A SC2616
TPS51020 ISL6520 ISL6537 CM8501 , ISL6224 ISL6225TPS51116EGR , RT8207A ... etc ) . see the
sample memory/ddr power ic in the link below :

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1f.cek voltage on S.I.O/EMBEDDED CONTROLLER chip S.I.O managed alot of signal,start from pwr
button signal,switching VALW to VS power and steping proces signal sleep state.We can detected
normal ic and firmware bios from confirmation signal of RSMRST#3.3V .If SPI setting ,IC bios and
firmware not working ,this S.I.O will not working.This S.I.O programe by microcontroler .(download
example S.I.O datasheet to get more information) S.I.O chip samples are
:(WINBON/ENE/ITC/NOUVOTON/ PC97338 , PC87392 , FDC7N869 , FDC37N958 , LPC47N227
,LPC47N267 PC87591S / PC 87591L / PC 97317IBW/PC 87 393 VGJ PC87591E , WPC8768L, KB926D
etc ) . See the sample ic here :

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&theater This Embedded controlling chip is having processor inside to execute firmware and
controlling input output switch state signal ,powering PCH and controlling LPC bus interface between
EC and PCH. This firmware store in bios chip and could erase or reprogramming LPC Assumptions and
Functionality Requirements• Only the following class of devices may be connected to the LPC
interface:Super I/O (FDC, SP, PP, IR, KBC) => I/O slave, DMA, Bus Master (for IR, PP)Audio=> I/O slave,
DMA, Bus MasterGeneric Application Memory, including BIOS => Memory SlaveBIOS Firmware
Memory => Firmware Memory SlaveEmbedded Controller => I/O slave, Bus Master• Interrupts are
communicated with the serial interrupt (SERIRQ) protocol.• The LPC interface does not need to
support high-speed busesdownstream, nor does it need to support low-latency buses such as USB.
SYNC Time-outThere are several potential error cases that can occur on the LPC I/F.The host starts a
cycle (Memory, I/O, DMA), but no device ever drives a defined (nonreserved)SYNC cycle. If the host
observes 3 consecutive clocks without a defined SYNC, it canconclude that no peripheral will respond
and can abort the cycle. SYNC Error IndicationThe SYNC protocol allows the peripheral to report an
error via the LAD[3:0] = ‘1010b’ encoding.The intent of this encoding is to give peripherals a method
of communicating errors to aid higher layers with more robust error recovery.If the host was reading
data from a peripheral, data will still be transferred in the next two nibbles.This data may be invalid,
but it must be transferred by the peripheral. If the host was writing data to the peripheral, the data
had already been transferred.In the case of multiple byte DMA cycles, an error SYNC terminates the
cycle. Therefore, if the host is transferring 4 bytes from a device, and if the device returns the error
SYNC in the first byte,the other three bytes will not be transferred.After receiving an error SYNC, the
host has several options. If it has an ISA bus, it may choose to assert IOCHK#. If it has a PCI bus, it may
choose to assert SERR#. Other options are to route the error condition to SCI or SMI#. A final option
is to take no action to alert higher levels. see Embedded Control Chip application on circuit in this link
:
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Embedded system controling enable switching signal here :

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Logic gate controler and enable switching signal here :

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1g.Checking Bios IC chip and Voltage need.there are three types of bios ic 1.ID Bios 2.EC Bios 3.Main
Bios

sample ic bios here :

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Bios layout here :

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&theater 1.ID bios usually only restoring for motherboard id information.2.EC Bios ,storing of
Embedded controlling firmware command and most function are for power managemen regulation.

Get more detil about EC bios here :

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3.Main bios ,storing of PCH command and most function to control Low pin count Bus interface
cycling.

more detil about Main bios in this link :

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Reprograme bios ic and backup original firmware with eprom programer here:
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1.h.check voltage and sensor accurasy at the thermal sensor ic ( heat sensor ) is a sensor chip that
detects heat safe limits to maintain security motherboard chips. almost all laptops have a thermal
sensor to control microprocessor maximum heat and some motherboards have a thermal sensor for
controlling Graphic chip operate maximum chip. .Thermal sensor will give orders to the bios if it
detects a maximum heat limit to disconnect power to the processor or vga or just turn off
bootstrapping ( command to boot ) and stop the interface between components that aims to keep
the excessive heat damage the chip ( protect error ) .Detect due to frequent excessive heat can cause
thermal sensor or a faulty memory detection and sensor commands do not get along ( Fals alarm ) .
Thus the chip detects heat tempratur maximum continuous conditions although they are not.To
reconcile the sensor detection is by lifting the chip from the motherboard andput back to give the
induction . if the sensor is already damaged and could notbe reset we will have to replace the sensor
chip that is still accurate .ic examples :ADMI032, EMC1402 , EMC4402 , EMC4401 , GMT781 , G768B ,
MAX6642 , MAX6657 , SMC1423 ..etc

sample thermal sensor ic here :


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the datasheet here : http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/178076/SMSC/EMC1402.html

1.h.cek voltage or frequency of the clock generator .sampleclock generator chip


:ALPRS355BMLF64PIN , CK505 , CK408 , K410M , CY2854LVXC , ICS9LPRS387 , ICS9LPR600ICS951412,
ICS954213 , ICS9LPR363DGLF - T , ICS950810 , SLG8SP626 , SLG8SP513V ,SLG8LP465VTRSLG8SP553V ,
SLG8LP55VTR ,SLG8SP513VTR ... etc. sample clock generator ic here :
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2.Checking PCH voltage needs (VCCP power rail)PCH could do replaced Graphic chip function .The
main function of this chip are controlling low pin count bus (LPC) interface cycling .Checking voltage
needs according voltage rail available are the first think to do and make sure

there are no discrete component feedback blocking the output enable signal and enable signal
phases could see on power sequence of circuit require.A link bus to check are SPI device-SPI bridge-
LPC bridge-LPC Device.

2.a Checking PCH conductors according intermiten fhoultyRepairing conductors on chip . ( Fixing
oxidized bga / tin loose chip due to heat )PCH solder pad vanished,short or damage chip or any
discrete circuit component for value impedance decreased.

see more about intermiten here : https://www.facebook.com/notes/adiedkhaz-book-of-laptop-part-


1/finding-the-intermittent-fault-on-electronic-circuits/939760786054147 Check the PCH datasheet
to get detil LPC bus Device araggement and steping state trigger enable signal Major PCH function
:Reset SGPIO Signal Usage , RTCRST# and SRTCRST# Clarification , PPM of 25 MHz Option for
CLKOUTFLEX,SATA Alternate ID Enable Definition , SATA Hot Plug Operation , GPIO13 Voltage
Tolerance , EHCI Configuration Programming , PCH Thermal Sensor Temperature Range , Secondary
PCI Device Hiding Register Attribute Clarification , GPIO Lock Clarification , GPIO13 Voltage Well ,
SLP_SUS# Clarifications , PME_Turn_Off TLP , GPIO Clarifications , Power Button Override and Deep
S4/S5 , Power Management Clarifications , Deep S3/S4 Exit Clarification , RAID 1 Description ,
V_PROC_IO Definition , Manageability Signals Clarifications , ACPRESENT Definition , SPI Overview.
Sample of PCH communication with embedded system here :
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LPC BUS Controler application on circuit here :

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&theater 3.Graphic chip failure.Check on VGFX section and get the schematic to find measuring
poin,make all voltage rail presen for this device.VGA chip also need video ram and they need
powered too.this chip controlling LVDS,CRT and HDMI output and waiting signal from CPU and
Southbridge.Check any input enable interface from Processor and Southbridge if they were available
but no output signal enable for LVDS,CRT and Hdmi do a reballing procedure before replacing the
chip.

4.LED/LCD No Back ligh problem : LVDS Power nedds


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look at troubleshot bellow to know LVDS measuring point :


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