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PRABHUPĀDA TRAVELED BY train from Bombay to Mathurā. Brahmānanda
carried him in his arms from the train to a waiting car, and within fifteen to
twenty-five minutes Prabhupāda was back in Vṛndāvana.
The devotees at the Krishna-Balaram Mandir were upset to see that Prabhupāda’s
condition had deteriorated so much in the one month he had been away. His room
was as he had left it, except for the addition of a large double bed. He lay down,
and they closed the curtains and dimmed the lights. For about five minutes he lay
still, with his eyes closed.
“Now you are home, Śrīla Prabhupāda,” said Tamāla Kṛṣṇa.
Still Śrīla Prabhupāda lay quietly, not moving. Then slowly he brought his hands
to his chest, clasped them together, and said, “Thank you.” He seemed relieved.
“Now you are in the care of Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma,” said Tamāla Kṛṣṇa.
Śrīla Prabhupāda smiled and nodded slightly. “Yes,” he said.
“Kṛṣṇa tvadīya-pada-paṅkaja-pañjarāntam,” indicating King Kulaśekhara’s
prayer to Lord Kṛṣṇa:
“My dear Kṛṣṇa, please help me die immediately so that the swan of my
mind may be encircled by the stem of Your lotus feet. Otherwise, at the time
of my final breath, how will it be possible for me to think of You?”
Although Śrīla Prabhupāda was in a precarious state, he remained
completely fixed in thought of Kṛṣṇa in one way or another – Kṛṣṇa’s
name, His form, His pastimes, or His devotional service. Prabhupāda
suggested going to see Kṛṣṇa and Balarāma at nine-thirty, just as he had
done before, but his servants advised that he rest today and begin that
program tomorrow.
“As you said, Prabhupāda, for better or worse, some husband must be
there.”
But Śrīla Prabhupāda had insisted so strongly that the temple management
had finally established the bell-ringing. For Śrīla Prabhupāda, it was
more than just a good standard; it was a symbol of the entire temple
management’s effectiveness. If they couldn’t even arrange that the bell be
rung regularly, then how could they manage everything else?
Now Śrīla Prabhupāda was saying he thought he heard the bell ring at the
wrong time. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa explained it might have been a different bell,
and the devotees continued reading Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam .
But Śrīla Prabhupāda again asked about the bell in the temple dome. As
Hari-śauri rose to go out and check, the bell began loudly ringing – one…
two… three… four – properly sounding the hour.
“That is my concern,” said Prabhupāda, “that such a huge establishment is
properly managed. If not properly managed, then everything will be finished.”
“I don’t think that that’s going to happen,” said Tamāla Kṛṣṇa. “We are too much
indebted to you to allow what you have established to become spoiled.”
Haṁsadūta Swami was one of the first to arrive, from Sri Lanka. Śrīla
Prabhupāda instructed him to develop farm projects there, as
Kīrtanānanda Swami had done in New Vrindaban. “Sometimes when
preaching,” said Haṁsadūta, “I tell them, ‘What kind of country is
this? The land is of the rājarṣis, and some lady is running the
government!’ ”
Now you just have to become better,” said Harikeśa. “More healthy.”
“So, why don’t you find out some bride?” Śrīla Prabhupāda
remarked, and the devotees’ sudden laughter broke the room’s
solemn mood. Accepting the ring on his finger, Śrīla Prabhupāda said
someone should take care of the other valuables.
Kīrtanānanda had pictures of the palace, and Prabhupāda sat up to see them. “You are fulfilling my
dream,” he said. “New Vrindaban. I dreamt all these things. Wonderful things he has done. He is the
first student – from the very beginning. When I was in the storefront, he was bringing carpets, bench,
some gong, some lamps.”
In Vṛndāvana, Girirāja had seen Prabhupāda a number of times, mostly on
business. He also regularly took his turn in the kīrtana vigils in
Prabhupāda’s room. But one day, wanting to take full advantage of
Vṛndāvana, he went to visit some of the temples. At the end of the day he
took rest for the night on the roof of the gurukula building. But in the
middle of the night he was awakened by a devotee saying that Prabhupāda
wanted to see him. He ran down immediately, aware that Prabhupāda
might pass away at any moment. Anything Prabhupāda might say could be
his last words. He came into Prabhupāda’s room, offered obeisances, and
got up very close beside the bed.
“Do you think this movement can go on without me?” Prabhupāda asked.
Girirāja was astounded that Prabhupāda had called him in the middle of
the night to ask him this.
Girirāja felt within his heart that he wanted to cry out, “Śrīla Prabhupāda,
stay with us.” But instead he said, “No.”
“All right,” Prabhupāda said. And Girirāja offered obeisances and left.
Outside Prabhupāda’s room, Girirāja continued to reflect on Prabhupāda’s
words – “organization and intelligence.” Prabhupāda seemed to be
demanding much more love and commitment; not that ISKCON could
survive on organization and intelligence alone. Girirāja was thinking that
perhaps these might be the last words Prabhupāda would ever speak to him.
Paramānanda, the temple president of Prabhupāda’s Pennsylvania farm project,
Gītā-nagarī, also came to be with Prabhupāda. “So organize this farm project,”
said Śrīla Prabhupāda. “Simple living. Human life is meant for God
realization. Try to help them.”
“We’re always feeling your presence very strongly, Śrīla Prabhupāda,” said
Paramānanda. “Simply by your teachings and instructions. We are always
meditating on your instructions.”
“Thank you,” said Śrīla Prabhupāda. “That is the real presence. Physical
presence is not important.” Paramānanda had brought a letter from his wife,
Satyabhāmā. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa asked if he should read it, and Prabhupāda agreed.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa read on.
Dear Srila Prabhupada,
Please accept my most humble obeisances. All glories to Your Divine Grace.
This shawl is made of the wool from our own sheep. It is spun and woven
here at Gita-nagari. It is the first piece we have made. While I was working
on it I would always think of you, how I was supposedly making you a gift.
But actually you are giving me the gift of engagement in devotional service.
Srila Prabhupada, I always pray to Lord Nrshimhadeva to protect you and
allow you to stay with us to finish your books. But I think today the rain
falling from the sky is actually the tears of the demigods, crying at the
prospect of your departure. I am also crying. Even Krsna cried at the passing
of Grandfather Bhisma. So I have a right to cry. I cannot be so philosophical
to say that you are always present in your books and teachings, though I
know these things are true. I will miss you so much, Srila Prabhupada, if you
go. I beg that I may always remain your menial servant and devotee.
Satyabhama dasi
“Thank her,” said Śrīla Prabhupāda, and he reached for the shawl.
“Made with our wool.”
“I don’t know what to say, Śrīla Prabhupāda,” said Tamāla Kṛṣṇa. “It’s certainly bewildering. I can only expect
somehow Kṛṣṇa will have to do something.” Tamāla Kṛṣṇa requested again that they bring a doctor. “Still some
husband must be there, you said,” Tamāla Kṛṣṇa reminded. “We should have a doctor’s help. I still believe that.
After all, we are not doctors.”
“No,” said Prabhupāda, “but we are already taking help of doctor, Āyur Veda – that is Yogendra-Ras.”
“You’re just beginning that now, of course,” said Tamāla Kṛṣṇa. “Tomorrow you might give it up. Then what
will be our position?”
“Widow,” said Prabhupāda with a laugh. Then he added, “Actually, Kṛṣṇa is the ultimate husband.”
The devotees with Prabhupāda found it very difficult to adopt his mood of looking forward to his passing away.
Once during a kīrtana, Upendra asked if Prabhupāda wanted something to drink. When Prabhupāda refused, some of
the devotees began to cry, thinking that if Prabhupāda didn’t eat or even drink, he would not remain with them much
longer. The devotees were trying to be submissively resigned to Prabhupāda’s will, and they accepted that his
direction was more and more toward leaving. They were coming to accept it, surrounding him with kīrtana and
not causing him any inconvenience with their problems or demands. Whatever he wanted, they should want.
But the idea of his passing away was still almost unbearable.
In their resignation, the devotees became philosophical. Rūpānuga said Prabhupāda could be likened to an
ambassador in a foreign country. He may have many affairs in the foreign country, but finally he’s called back.
Jayādvaita said that Prabhupāda had taught his disciples everything and that now he was teaching them how to
die. Another devotee said that Prabhupāda had better friends in the spiritual world. In their talks, the devotees
stressed the importance of their cooperating with one another, and they discussed how ISKCON would
continue in the future. But it was all depressing.
Then Śrīla Prabhupāda said they should consult
Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja, a disciple of Prabhupāda’s
sannyāsa-guru, for details on how to conduct the
ceremony for a departed Vaiṣṇava. He also described
where his samādhi should be located and asked that
after his departure, a feast be served in all the main
temples in Vṛndāvana, with ISKCON bearing the
expense.
* Here Śrīla Prabhupāda is quoting a song by Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura: “Chanting the holy name is my only pastime.”
“Jaya Śrīla Prabhupāda,” said Hari-śauri. “Hari-nāma is the sweetest nectar.”“Nivṛtta-tarṣair upagīyamānād
bhavauṣadhāt,*” Prabhupāda quoted. “This is bhavauṣadha, hari-kīrtana.”
* Here Śrīla Prabhupāda is referring to a verse in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (10.1.4), wherein hearing about Kṛṣṇa is
described as the medicine to cure the material disease of taking birth in the material world again and again and
suffering.
“Only devotees are cooking,” said Tamāla Kṛṣṇa. “And it is very tasteful. And everybody – about 125 devotees –
sits together and takes prasādam. And the guests from the guesthouse also take. Everyone takes together.”
“Everybody liked?” asked Prabhupāda, smiling.“Yes, oh, yes,” was the combined reply of the devotees in the
room. They all crowded close around Prabhupāda’s bed.
“That’s nice,” said Prabhupāda. “You are the perfect father, Śrīla Prabhupāda,” said one of the devotees. “You
provide everything for us. A place to live, food to eat, everything. And you’ve trained us in spiritual knowledge.”
Prabhupāda uttered one of his deep sounds – “Hmmm.” Then he said, “Chant. All together.” And the
assembled devotees gladly began a kīrtana.
Ah,” Prabhupāda acknowledged. “And caraṇāmṛta – diet. Diet and medicine. Let me depend on these.”
Although he was fasting, Śrīla Prabhupāda inquired about the prasādam being served to the devotees. Now a
hundred or more extra devotees were at the temple, and more were expected.
“What they supply?” said Tamāla Kṛṣṇa. “You mean prasāda? Of course, today is the day after Ekādaśī, so they
had some cereal made with gur and some fruit salad made with guavas and bananas. That was all this morning.
Lunch is usually substantial, very good. This is the best prasādam that we have had in many years in India. The
cook, Ayodhyāpati, is doing very nicely. Do you want to know what he cooks for lunch?”
Prabhupāda nodded slightly.“He cooks an ālu-sabji with dāl sauce,” Tamāla Kṛṣṇa continued, “and he makes
bindi, very nicely spiced, and dāl, rotī, rice, apple chutney, and dahi-raitā every day.”
The room was very dark except for a nightlight behind the head of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s bed. Devotees were chanting
softly, using only the one tiny pair of karatālas for keeping rhythm. Tripurāri Swami was massaging Śrīla
Prabhupāda’s feet, Bhagatjī his right leg, and Tamāla Kṛṣṇa his left arm. Suddenly, Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja, from the
Devananda Sarasvati Math in Mathurā, entered along with two of his men. Prabhupāda’s disciples immediately
gave him a seat at the side of the bed. Śrīla Prabhupāda began speaking, but so softly that Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja had
to lean over to hear. Seeing a conversation about to begin, the devotees in the room, numbering about fifteen or
twenty, moved in closer.
Śrīla Prabhupāda began, “Śrīla Prabhupāda [Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī] said that we should preach in Europe,
America. That was his desire. And his other desire was that we all would work together jointly to preach.”
“Yes, that is right,” said Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja.
“I didn’t waste a single moment,” said Śrīla Prabhupāda. “I tried my best, and it has been successful to some
extent.” Śrīla Prabhupāda’s voice was choked with emotion. “If we work conjointly,” he continued, “then as Śrī
Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, pṛthivīte* … Saṅkīrtana has great possibilities.
“In every town and village, the chanting of My name will be heard.” (Caitanya-bhāgavata, Antya 4.126)
My life is coming to an end. It is my desire that you all forgive me for my mistakes. My Godbrothers,
when you are preaching at times there are some disputes, some misunderstandings. Maybe I also
committed some offenses like that. Please ask them to forgive me. When I am gone, you will all sit
together and decide how you can manage for some utsava, or festival for me. How much should we
pay? What do you think of this?”
“Whatever instructions you give me,” said Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja, “I will follow them with absolute
sincerity. I consider you my guru.”
Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja said that what Śrīla Prabhupāda had created should be protected, and it was
everyone’s duty to do so. He pledged to help in whatever way he could. Śrīla Prabhupāda inquired if
his Godbrothers who had temples in Mathurā-Vṛndāvana were present, and Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja replied
that most of them were out of station.
Regarding Śrīla Prabhupāda’s asking his Godbrothers for forgiveness, Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja said,
“They are all trivial things. In this worldwide preaching, if some little things go wrong here and there,
what difference does it make? It is all right. Whatever you have done, you have done for the
well-being of the entire human society. There is no individual interest. Everything was done in the
interest of God.” He advised that Śrīla Prabhupāda not worry. His disciples were worthy and
would maintain things; therefore Prabhupāda should now simply “think of the Lord.”
Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja then asked his assistant, Śeṣaśāyī Brahmacārī, to sing Śrī-rūpa-mañjarī-pada.
While everyone listened in silence and Śrīla Prabhupāda lay still, Śeṣaśāyī Brahmacārī sang the song
very sweetly. Next, Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja sang a bhajana, finishing with the refrain Jaya Gurudeva!
Jaya Prabhupāda!
After a pause, Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja spoke again, this time referring to Śrīla Prabhupāda’s disciples.
“They should be told that they should never get motivated by their own self-interest,” he said.
“They should make your mission successful.”
Śrīla Prabhupāda turned his head slowly, looking over the devotees as they gathered in even more closely.
Then slowly he lifted his hand, as if to call them all to attention, and said, “Do not fight among yourselves. I
have given direction in my books.” He then lowered his hand.
Prabhupāda’s Godbrother Indupati entered the room. Śrīla Prabhupāda heard his greeting and repeated his
request: “First of all I want to say forgive me for all my offenses. I didn’t want to hurt anyone, but while
preaching one has to sometimes say something that may offend others. Will you forgive me?”
“Yes, yes,” Indupati said.
“Mahārāja, you didn’t commit any offense,” said Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja. “We never thought that you did
anything wrong. On the other hand, you bless us. We need it. You never did any wrong. If someone is
offended by your actions, that is his fault.”
Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja then gently took Śrīla Prabhupāda’s right hand and felt his pulse. After a moment or two
he said, “Pulse is all right. And your consciousness is perfect. If you have to go, by the will of the Lord, then
you will go perfectly.” Promising to return again, Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja asked permission to leave, and he and
Indupati and their party left the room.
They appreciated Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja’s words, but it was another final goodbye. Before the atmosphere of
despair could engulf them, they began again their soft, singing kīrtana.
Early one morning in October, as Śrīla Prabhupāda continued fasting
from food and drink, Upendra made an innocent but somewhat
impertinent complaint. “How can you refuse to drink?” he asked.
Śrīla Prabhupāda thought for a moment and said, “So you discuss
among yourselves and decide what you want me to do.”
“Don’t worry,” said Tamāla Kṛṣṇa. “I’ll see that each of them is satisfied. They won’t feel sorry in any way. You’ve
provided for everyone, Śrīla Prabhupāda.”
After a few minutes, Prabhupāda turned his attention to Hari-śauri, who was sobbing silently near
Prabhupāda’s head.
With some sternness in his voice, Prabhupāda asked, “Why do you want me to survive?” Hari-śauri could not
speak. He felt that if he asked Prabhupāda to stay it would be an offense, since he had already decided to
leave. Hari-śauri could not keep his emotions in check, and yet he did not want to say, “Stay and struggle.”
Neither did he nor any of the others want Prabhupāda to leave. Somehow, Tamāla Kṛṣṇa had not caught
Prabhupāda’s last remark to Hari-śauri, and so he leaned forward towards Prabhupāda, half questioning,
“They want you to survive?”
“If I want to die,” said Śrīla Prabhupāda, “this is a very peaceful death. You go on chanting.”
As the kīrtana continued, Tamāla Kṛṣṇa asked to be excused. Prabhupāda asked why, and he replied he was
going for discussion.
“For discussion,” said Śrīla Prabhupāda. “They want me to survive, and I want to die peacefully. I cannot
make miracles. The physical body has to be maintained if I am to survive. But without taking food, how the
physical body will go on? That is fanaticism.”
Śrīla Prabhupāda’s eyes had been closed, but suddenly he opened them and said, “Kṛṣṇa wants me to do as I
like. The choice is mine. Kṛṣṇa has given me full freedom.”
“These words struck some of the devotees as extremely startling and different. But Brahmānanda spoke up
in the mood of resigned assurance. “It doesn’t matter whether you live or die, Prabhupāda,” he said. “You’ll
always be with Kṛṣṇa, and we will always be with you, because we will follow your instructions.”
“Whether I live or die,” Prabhupāda said, “I will always be Kṛṣṇa’s servant.
So if Brahmānanda has assured me that this movement will go on, then better let me die peacefully.” The
devotees, who were only inches away from Prabhupāda, heard these faint words with dismay. After a few minutes
of heavy silence, they resumed the kīrtana. Prabhupāda seemed to rest.
Within a few minutes all the available G.B.C. men and senior sannyāsīs were gathered in the outer room.
Brahmānanda was feeling very low that he had told Prabhupāda that everything would go on without him and that
Prabhupāda had replied that he would therefore die. The devotees remained amazed at Prabhupāda’s statement
that Kṛṣṇa had given him freedom to do as he liked. These words now struck like a thunderbolt. With these words,
“Kṛṣṇa has given me the choice,” Prabhupāda turned all the devotees’ minds in a different direction. Abhirāma
reminded them that Prabhupāda wanted them to discuss about his recovery, and now they were having that
discussion. But they were confused and bewildered by the sudden change in Prabhupāda’s mood.
Kīrtanānanda Swami, the seniormost disciple, spoke up with clarity and logic. “If Kṛṣṇa has given Śrīla
Prabhupāda the independence to choose, that means He also has given us the independence. So we should
assert our independence and ask Śrīla Prabhupāda to stay.”
One by one, devotees spoke up in support of the decision to ask Śrīla Prabhupāda to stay. Yes, it was a fact that the
Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement would go on without Śrīla Prabhupāda’s physical presence; but it wouldn’t be the
same.
“Yes, and Prabhupāda hasn’t finished translating the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam,” said Brahmānanda.
“Yes,” said another, “we should ask Śrīla Prabhupāda to stay for at least five or ten years.”
“Five or ten years? We should ask him to stay for one hundred years!”
“Well, who in the G.B.C. is going to say that we shouldn’t ask Prabhupāda to stay?”
They were in agreement. They did want Prabhupāda to stay, and they should express their desire to him. The
mood of the last few days had suddenly reversed. They were no longer in the depths of despair but were
thinking positively and enthusiastically that Śrīla Prabhupāda would stay with them.
“Why should we think that there is no hope for him to become fit again?” said Kīrtanānanda. “Jesus could bring people
back to life from the dead, and even mundane yogīs can do it. So Śrīla Prabhupāda certainly can if he wants.”
Now Brahmānanda spoke up with great strength. “We weren’t realizing that actually we need Prabhupāda! That
should be the understanding. There is no question of allowing Prabhupāda out of our presence for a moment!”
It was about 3:30 P.M. when the twenty devotees entered Śrīla Prabhupāda’s room and crowded around his bed. Śrīla
Prabhupāda lay with his eyes closed, motionless, but alert to their presence. Kīrtanānanda Swami had been chosen to be
the spokesman, and as he leaned over to speak to Śrīla Prabhupāda, his lips began to tremble, his eyes filled with tears,
and he broke down, sobbing, with his head at the side of the bed.
Śrīla Prabhupāda then laid his hand on Kīrtanānanda’s head and gently rubbed it.
“Hmmm? So what do you want?” he asked. No one could say anything, as they were all waiting for Kīrtanānanda.
Brahmānanda was rubbing Kīrtanānanda on the back to soothe him, and Tamāla Kṛṣṇa was encouraging him to try
to say something. Finally, after another minute of emotional waiting, Kīrtanānanda raised his head. He looked at
Śrīla Prabhupāda and pleaded, “If Kṛṣṇa gives you the choice, then don’t go! We need you!”
“So this is your joint opinion?” asked Śrīla Prabhupāda. “You have discussed?” He held his hand in the air and
moved it around, so as to indicate all the devotees.
Brahmānanda Swami spoke up very emotionally but positively: “We have all met together, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
We want you to remain and lead this movement and finish the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. We said that you
must remain for at least another ten years. You have only done fifty percent of your work.”
Śrīla Prabhupāda was listening very carefully without any movement, but when Brahmānanda said “fifty
percent” he frowned and said, “No.” Finally he uttered a “Hmmm.” He was considering the proposal. His eyes
were still closed, and he seemed to be consulting Kṛṣṇa from within himself.
Several times he uttered “Hmmm,” and everyone was held in suspense, not able to speak or think or do anything
except look intently at Śrīla Prabhupāda. Then with his eyes still closed, he yawned, and his gold teeth began
to show. “All right,” he said.
It was probably the most casual-sounding decision on life or death ever made. At that moment the devotees
understood Śrīla Prabhupāda’s independent position; he could stay or go as he chose.
They had become so faithless, however, that they were thinking that his passing away was
inevitable and could not possibly be delayed, even by Śrīla Prabhupāda himself. Now he
displayed his wonderful transcendental nature with a simple yawn – “All right” – as if
choosing between life and death was the most unimportant thing in the world.
Harikeśa gave a short laugh, the kind that he saved for when Śrīla Prabhupāda did
something completely transcendental, incomprehensible, and inimitable. “Jaya,
Prabhupāda!” he said.
“So give me something to drink,” he said, and all the devotees shouted, “Jaya,
Prabhupāda!” He would stay with them. It was confirmed. Everyone was greatly relieved.
“All glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda!”
So this was what Prabhupāda wanted. He was drawing out their emotions and
increasing their affection for him more and more by putting them into a state of
transcendental distress. Now they could understand, at least to a tiny degree,
what the gopīs’ pangs of separation were like. Śrīla Prabhupāda was bringing his
disciples to the extremes of devotional sentiments and showing that actually their
lives were in his hands.
“You have fixed the date for the opening of Bombay,” said Brahmānanda.
“January the first. So we would like to invite you to come, Śrīla Prabhupāda. It
is your temple. You have asked Kṛṣṇa to come there. When we all gave up, you
carried on the fight.”
“Yes, that was a great fight,” said Prabhupāda, smiling. “After so much
fighting and then to construct a big temple is a great triumph.”
“I don’t think Kṛṣṇa will come into the temple,” said Tamāla Kṛṣṇa, “unless you
are personally there, Śrīla Prabhupāda, to open the door.”
Prabhupāda was still smiling. “All right,” he said. “But chanting should not be
stopped. Things should go on naturally.”
Turning to Kīrtanānanda, Prabhupāda asked, “Kīrtanānanda’s palace – when
it will be ready?”
“In early spring,” Kīrtanānanda replied, “as soon as the weather is a little
warmer. It gives you the chance to have a little time to recuperate, then go to
Bombay and open the temple there, and then you can come open your palace.
We have about seventy-five letters from all the devotees in New Vrindaban,
and they are all begging you to come. They say their life is finished if you
don’t come.”
“So let me take a little rest,” said Prabhupāda, “and then I shall take
strawberries.”
Later that day, Śrīla Prabhupāda was speaking more audibly and quoting
verses, including the Īśopaniṣad verse that says one who acknowledges
the Supreme Personality of Godhead can go on living for hundreds of
years. He sat up and drank some vegetable broth. He also talked for half an
hour with Girirāja about bank matters, repeatedly questioning him to make
sure he understood. He also spoke at length with Rāmeśvara Swami about
preaching Kṛṣṇa consciousness in Iran.