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Sloterdijk Interview
Sloterdijk Interview
Éric Alliez: Let’s begin with the worst of beginnings: the so-called
Sloterdijk Affair.1 The worst of beginnings whichever way you look at
it. The Affair that bears that name reduces the philosophical work of
Peter Sloterdijk to a single lecture – Regeln für den Menschenpark
– a lecture which was, in fact, published after the triggering of the
Affair in order to exhibit the implausibility of the reading made of it
(Sloterdijk 1999a). For we must immediately note the impossibility
by the nasty word “class” . . .), together with certain hints for better
understanding the driving forces behind this Babylonian confusion
of political languages that’s evident nowadays – a confusion which
means that quite often even potential allies no longer recognize
each other as such.
In spite of all these risks, L’essai d’intoxication volontaire was
very favorably received in France. Roger-Pol Droit’s observations in
his article in Le Monde des livres were in my view very indicative: the
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benefits from it?). It’s only too clear what a democratic deficit there
would be if we allowed the conformists of every stamp to stifle free
thinking to the point of prohibiting the questioning and problematizing
contained in an uncompromising critique. I’ll permit myself to refer
here to the article “Du centrisme mou au risque de penser,” in which
I attempted to explain the devastating effects of the Kohl era on
the culture of debate in our country – that implosion of the political
space, that advent of a boundless conformism that is the unthought
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a time “after” someone. In this, it’s entirely in line with the title of
Giorgio Colli’s famous book, Dopo Nietzsche. We know the social
sciences and contemporary philosophy have formed the habit of
dating themselves within a period after a master-thinker. The post-
Freud period of J.B. Pontalis comes to mind; the post-Saussure of
the structuralists; the post-Foucault of the new genealogists and
archivists; the post-Braudel of the psychohistorians, and, more
thinking). This dual model of thought carries far beyond the traditional
LIVING HOT, THINKING COLDLY: AN INTERVIEW WITH PETER SLOTERDIJK
critique of ideologies, into an area beyond the vrai naïf and the faux
naïf. In my view, the famous parable of paragraph 125 of The Gay
Science, in which the death of God is proclaimed, invokes precisely
the need to invent a new poetics of immunizing space. And this can
be done only in an exteriority that will forever be radically ahead of
any construction of an interior. “How shall we console ourselves
. . . we who are the murderers of all murderers?”9 By making
PS: Precisely. If only to break with the rather too exclusive attention
paid by research, where this author is concerned, to that doctrine
of the “will to power” that was monstrously twisted by the jack-
booted, helmeted readers of the 1930s. Now, the writings of the
young philologist seemed to me haunted by what I’ve called his
“Dionysian materialism.” This provocative expression signaled my
intention to read the Nietzschean corpus as forming part of the
subversive tradition of those marginal thinkers who’ve managed
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ÉA: It’s easier now to see how you can be regarded as the most
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Adorno, and in the certainty that the great refuser is morally superior
to the “collaborators” with the data of experience (which was, in fact,
the spiritual source of the Frankfurt School in its first incarnation),
reading Foucault was a bit like having your heart torn out by an Aztec
priest with a tip of obsidian. If I had to characterize the Foucault
of that period of my intellectual history, I’d say that he seemed to
me like someone who no longer philosophized with a hammer, but
with a blade of obsidian. For obsidian has its reasons which reason
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the encounter with it. It’s only in recent times that I’ve begun to read
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either as a philosopher (and if that’s the case, you can’t say much
that’s particularly relevant, given that it’s easier to quote Plato than
to produce a clone) or as a technical medical man (in which case
one will have complete mastery of discourse since, by definition,
the expert has mastery of knowledge: in this case, what it costs
to clone a human being). In short, Monsieur Atlan finds it difficult
to admit there might exist a discourse, that is to say, in principle a
movement of thought, which proposes, philosophically and rigorously,
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NOTES
1. This interview was conducted by Éric Alliez by e-mail and com-
pleted in January 2000. It was first published in Multitudes 1
(2000). Alliez is here making an allusion to Bergson’s Les
Données immédiates de la conscience, translated into English
as Time and Free Will (1996).
2. Paris: Calmann-Lévy, 1999. German: Selbstversuch (1996).
3. Translated by Michael Eldred and published in 1988 as Critique
of Cynical Reason.
4. Translated by Jamie Owen Daniel and published in 1989 as
Thinker on Stage, subtitled “Nietzsche’s Materialism.”
5. This is a paraphrase. The passage referred to in Ecce Homo
reads in translation as follows: “The unmasking of Christian
morality is an event without equal, a real catastrophe. He who
exposes it is a force majeure, a destiny – he breaks the history
of mankind into two parts. One lives before him, one lives after
him” (1979: 133).
6. The Will to Power, section 853.
7. “Fiat veritas, pereat vita.” This is quoted in section IV of the
“Foreword” to Nietzsche’s On the Use and Abuse of History for
Life (1873).
8. Selbstversuch (1996) is the original title of L’essai d’intoxication
volontaire.
9. “Wie trösten wir uns, die Mörder aller Mörder?” (Nietzsche
1959: 167).
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10. An allusion to Chemins qui mènent nulle part, the title of the
French translation of Heidegger’s Holzwege.
11. These two terms in English in original.
12. An allusion to Pascal’s “Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison
ne connaît point.”
13. A zoological term referring to the capacity of certain species to
procreate in a state of biological immaturity. In his book, Das
Problem der Menschwerdung (Jena, 1926), the anthropologist
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